KSR - NFL Cover Zero: Chiefs are back, Vintage Aaron Rodgers, and NFL Week 6!

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin start with the Chiefs win and Jason Kelce coming into form.  The coaching in this game shows how much football has changed.  Has Baker Mayfield become the leader in the MVP race?  Another big loss for the 49ers with the Fred Warner injury.  Over to London where the Jets didn't put up numbers, but still had a chance to win.  Aaron Rodgers looks back in form as the Steelers roll.  Can you name the 8 QBs the Browns are paying this season? The Dolphins have some decisions to make after a loss to the Chargers.  Patriots QB Drake Maye puts together another impressive performance.  The Colts move to 5-1 but suffer some odd pregame injuries.  The Seahawks have now won 9 straight road games. Rico Dowdle made his presence felt in the Panthers win over the Cowboys. Joe Flacco played well, but couldn't get the Bengals past the Packers.  We update Survivor pool and Touchdown leagues before previewing Thursday Night and Monday Night Football!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I-Heart podcast. This NFL cover zero, Matt Jones, and Drew Franklin here for a week six review. Drew has literally just landed after flying from Denver, Colorado to Lexington, Kentucky. How was your flight, Drew? Nice, nice direct flight. I was a little bummed because on the way there I had Wi-Fi and I was able to watch live TV.

So I thought I was going to get to watch Sunday night football. But you know, the Wi-Fi hadn't always working on the plane. So I had to just stare at the back of the seat and miss that game. But otherwise, good day and I was able to watch the other show. I looked at the slate this morning before I did ESPN and I went, oh, this isn't the most fun. It was weird. They got to the bewitching hour, whatever they say on Red Zone, and none of the games were close. But then they all kind of got close at the end.

the afternoon shift. The ending was tonight, and the Chiefs win 30 to 17. It was kind of drew an old school Chiefs performance. Strong on offense, defense gets big stops. They beat a good lines team at home. They control the game. Two scores most of the game. Chiefs are back, right?

Yeah, saw Mahomes and Kelsey looking like the old tandem that was dominating everyone. You know, earlier in this season, I was one of the people really questioned the chiefs. Kelsey's doing that. He plays his way into shape. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's starting.

He looks a little thinner. Well, when they get older, they don't really focus in camp. Yeah. You know, a little lazy going to the season. I've done this several times. I'll get in shape on down the road. He's doing that move. Yeah.

I wonder is he like if he's kind of a deadbeat boyfriend in the sense of, you know, his fiancee was doing all kinds of stuff this summer. and he, even through the course of the game, if you go look, if you watch the first quarter, Kelsey has a couple of big drops early, including on a third down that he should have made the play. Collinsworth sounded like a disappointed dad. He was like, you have to do that, Travis.

So not the normal Collinsworth. Yeah, no, he was not, well, we'll get to that. There was a little bit of that too. There was a little bit of that. But he did a little bit of the disappointed dad. But then in the second half, it was like old Kelsey mode, activated. And I thought Mahomes looked great throughout the game. He does things nobody else can. And I mean, he won him the game tonight. A lot of his scrambles were kind of old school

Mahomes as well. I caught the beginning of this before I took off the fourth and one with the lions on the one yard. That's the biggest play of the game. What a wild play that was. Yeah, that was the biggest play of the game. I mean, if you, I think if you, if they score there, it's a different game. But they stop. them, then the chiefs come down and get some points before half. I think that was a huge decision. It was interesting, all game long, these two coaches are a testament to how much football has changed. I mean, early in the game, first, I think it was the first drive of the game for the

chiefs. They're at fourth and goal from the four, and they go for it, and they score. It's a pass to worthy for a touchdown. But, I mean, you go back five years. People are not going on the first drive of the game. Are they going to go for it on fourth and goal from the four? That's a change. That just didn't used to happen.

Yeah. See, more coaches doing it. But then Dan Campbell, he is just the craziest of all of them. When they went for it on fourth down, you know, most people, if you're going to go for it, probably just power run. Yeah. We're going to throw to our quarterback. I mean, that guy's a psychopath.

But I've really grown to love the Lions. I'm kind of a bandwagoned lions guy. It would have worked. It would have worked if they had. He moths him a little bit. He did. You could make a strong argument that the difference in the game early were the first. were the fourth down place.

The fourth down were the chief score. Then the last drive before half, they convert. Or no, excuse me, first drive and second half, they convert on a fourth down that leads to points. And then, of course, there's the one the lines missed. So it's just interesting. That didn't used to be a thing. And now, if you're inside the five,

you're going for it every time, right? Yeah. And it's not just there at the goal line, too. I mean, we had Vrable go forward on like fourth and seven from his own 15 a few weeks. Guys are just, they're rolling the dice a little more than we've ever seen. Yeah, but I like it. Makes it a lot more exciting.

The Chiefs are now three and three. Back to title contender? Yeah, I worried if they lost this one and if the charges were to win, that division might get so wide that even if they did start clicking, that the gap would be just too big. But beating the Lions is a huge, huge for them, getting them back at 500 and then obviously just proven how good they are. Schedule is not easy, but it gets a little easier than it was.

I think they're right there. I just think they're bored with, like the regular season to them is, you know, and they should have won that game last week with the Jaguars. I mean, that was a game. You play that game. Think about when they had, they were at the one-yard line or whatever, up 14-0. You start at that moment and you play the game 100 times. They're going to win 96 of them.

It's just they throw that pick six and then the game flips after that. And I think their early losses, I think Worthy was, going to be a big part of what they were doing that offense. They just completely threw them off in the beginning of week one in Brazil. And they get Rishi Rice back next week. Yeah, so he's been big having him back too. Yeah, that's right. Now, we do have to talk about Chris Collinsworth.

Yeah. Do I get an impersonation? Yes, you do. Because this was a great one. Billy, I almost texted you when it happened. It wasn't even a particularly impressive play. It was like third and seven. And he and Mahomes decides to scramble and comes up.

two yards short of the first down, and he gets hit by three different guys. Did you see this play? He got hit by one guy, bounced off of him and then got nailed by another. It was one of those plays where if you're a Chiefs fan, you're like, dude, you got to slide. Because he didn't even get the first down.

But Collinsworth was, I mean, it had to be one of the people. I mean, he doesn't need any tea when he's watching these games to talk to our conversation last. His tea was not low during this because he just was like, if you watch it, he scrambles and he says, oh, Mike, oh, oh, can you believe it? He was like, no other quarterback does that, Mike. No other quarterback does that. Like an old video we're going to use this week. Yeah, no, you don't need to run.

I mean, I did roll back. Well, his eyes did roll back of his head. I'm just saying that's what he did. And he didn't even get the first down. He was two yards short of the first down. And he just got nailed by the two lines defenders. Collinsworth and Mahomes. That's a love that goes deep.

It's like Travis Taylor. then Mahomes-Colensworth? Is that the ranking the couples? I think that's the ranking. He is, he gets you a girl that looks at you the way Chris does Patrick. If nothing else, he's brought a new impersonation to NFL Cover Zero that I hope will continue. Another big part of this game, I got a text message right before it started from a female friend of mine who said, you all on Cover Zero have to talk about the fact that Travis walked into the,

the game with a Louis Vuitton flannel. And I thought I'd bring that up because we wouldn't have talked about it otherwise. That was not going to be something I brought up. But I do like that Travis Kelsey now brings that to the game as well. People caring who don't even like sports about what he wears into the game. And he can afford his own Louis Vuitton before Tether Swift. But now we've had this big company merger between Kelsey and Swift here, I mean, he can afford literally anything he wants.

I didn't know Louis Vuitton made flannel. I usually don't think of that as a Louis Vuitton kind of thing. I don't shop there much, to be honest. I like flannels, but don't usually go to Louis for those. When I go to Louis, which is often, I don't usually come away with flannels, but now because of Travis, I will. But big win, and I think for the Chiefs, this is like all their doubters. They're going to be right there in the end.

Now, Billy, your Bucks ended up getting what I think was probably the most exciting game of the day, beating the 49ers. Baker Mayfield. I'm going on record. He's the MVP right now, isn't he? Oh, yeah. He was awesome today. I got a shout out a sports bar in Denver Airport. I think it was called Artisans.

They had the sound on this game. You don't usually get sound in an airport bar. So I got to watch a lot of this one. In Mayfield, I mean, Billy, can I like buy a jersey and get on the bandwagon? He's just so fun. There are so many plays where maybe a lot of. lineman bumps him and he is just so quick to get up in their face and talk trash. Well, his scramble on that third down, Billy, is if you were going to draw up

exactly why people love Baker Mayfield, that would be the play. He did so many Baker Mayfield things. He did fakes. He got hit. He spun. Like, it was such a great play. That was his MVP moment. It was.

Yeah. And for him to do this without his four starting wide receivers and his starting running back and Bucky Irving, it's incredible. He's willing this team to a five and one record. and we were talking about it before the show started. If the season ended today, the Bucks would be the one seed in the NFC. Well, I mean, the Bucks being the one seed is odd, but the Colts would be the one seed in the AFC, which we'll get to in a second.

But, I mean, Billy's points are made. They're out with four wide receivers. I mean, four of their wide receivers out. Bucky Irving's out. And then they bring in Tess Johnson amazing pass on that deep pass. That was just a couple plays after his crazy run. That little sequence, the run and then the pass to Tess Johnson, would you vote for Baker for MVP? Remember we were last week, I asked you what the odds were.

I think it was like plus 675. It was plus 600 before the game today. After those two plays, it went down to plus 340. I'm not kidding. In like three minutes, it went from plus 600. 600 to plus 340 on the back, I think, after those two plays. And it's the way that's the teams they're beating to, the way they're doing it. I mean, what was it through the first three weeks that come back fashion?

You know, you didn't beat the Eagles, but you had the Eagles down. That's your one loss. I mean, the Bucks are for real. Baker Mayfield's for real. It wasn't a little fluky thing earlier in the season. I mean, Igbuka, I know he didn't have much today being so they were so thin. He went out. Yeah, he's a young star.

I saw he had an early catch. I mean, they really are. It's not just some flash in the pan. They're hot for a couple weeks. I mean, they're a real threat. Well, here's how much of a threat they are. You and I have a friend who is a, he's big time in the gambling world. It's named Stucky.

You know Stucky, right? I don't know Stucky. Stucky's, when Stucky has gambling thoughts, I'm, I fall. All right. Now, the bucks are five and one. Stucky seems to hate Tampa Bay. I don't know why it is. And he wrote after the game, he said,

I want you to mark this tweet right now. He said, the bucks are, and he said, cheeks. Oh, they're cheeks. Cheeks. Which is by what? That's a new term. That means not good. Yeah.

And he said, remember this when they finish eight and nine. Now, I rarely argue with Stucky, right? I try to learn from Stucky, not argue with Stuckie. But I was like, okay, I can't let this go. So I wrote Stucky and said, come on. The Bucks are good. There's no way they're finishing 8 and 9. And then someone else got in and said the Bucks aren't even good,

which led to an argument on Twitter with me of metaphysical what the word good means. But can we all agree that they're not going to finish 8 and 9 like Stucky says? Oh, there's no, I mean, no way. Think about the division. They still play the Saints twice, the Panthers twice. That's four right there, isn't it? Or right there. I don't even know the rest of the schedule.

But that alone, I'm counting them at 4 and 0 in those games. You got another one against the Falcons, who, you know, a little better than those two. Well, here, let me read you. You tell me to the winner-loose. They're at Detroit next week. We'll even call that a loss, okay? Saints. Win.

Patriots. When? Home. Home. When? At Bills. We'll take that as a loss. At Rams.

Maybe a loss. A homecoming game. Cardinals at home. When? at home. Falcons at home. Win. At Panthers.

At Dolphins. Win. Panthers at home. Win. That's eight more wins. How can Stucky think they're going to win eight games? Sounds like he's just maybe got some built-up anger towards the Bucks. He's a Ravens guy.

I can't think of any big Bucks Ravens' moments. Are you of the opinion that they're going to win the Super Bowl? Are you getting your hopes up? Yeah, my hopes are up. It took three to four weeks. After that Eagles lost, I was still a little unsure. but Baker is just a different breed right now. If he can stay healthy, it doesn't matter who's around him.

If he can stay healthy, this team's got a chance. And that's exciting. Coming from a team that's won this many division titles in a row, it feels different this year. And they're not cheeks. No. Not at all. Don't let anybody say that.

Don't let anybody say that. Fred Warner for the 49ers. That was an awful injury. Yeah. It was hard to watch. That's now two straight years where the 49ers have had just stupid injury look or is it not luck

do you think there can be some I mean like the laws of numbers can't say it just can keep happening over and over I agree we had this talk last week and now they've added another significant injury a week later it's it's way too many to be fluky I don't know I'm not here to just call out trainers and their staff but it's back-to-back seasons

of just their roster being decimated And yet, they were in this game. They still have an easy schedule. I mean, they still can be a contender. I mean, Matt Jones, you believe, I mean, he's kind of hung in there for him, right? Yeah, he's been good. I hate Mac Jones, by the way. It just seems like any quarterback, I mean, they're beat up and the players are changing,

but Purdy Jones, whoever, throw them out there. This is going to be the same. I don't like Matt Jones for one simple reason. People think his name is Matt Jones. They search him on Twitter. It comes up at KY. If you put him Matt Jones on Twitter, the thing that comes up is me.

So people who want to cuss him will tag me. So they'll be like, you know who can't play football at KY Sports Radio. And then you're like, yeah, I know. Obviously. Yes. I'm 47. You do work for the NFL, though. That's true.

But does the person never think? that maybe the football player Mac Jones, why would his Twitter handle be at KY Sports Radio? He did commit to Kentucky. Maybe he just didn't change it. But why would that be his Twitter handle? I don't know. But I get at least eight or nine cussing out messages every single time Mac Jones play. I think you should fire back as if you're him.

Apologize. Offer to send him a jersey. I ask for their address. Dude, I'm trying as best I can. My team sucks. Look, it's halftime. Will you stop distracting me? trying to watch the gilded age before I get back out there.

Did you see the one guy on the 49ers, he stepped on the kicker's foot? No, I didn't see that part. I want you to look up this picture. For those of you at home, if you're listening, if you're driving, pull over because I don't want you to get in an accident. But look at 49ers kicker get stepped on, and I want you to notice the picture. Most importantly, I want you to notice the discrepancy in size of their feet. the lineman that steps on the kicker's foot. Before I even hit play, I see like the screenshot, the still image.

So, oh my goodness. His foot, the lineman, is twice as big as the kicker's foot. Maybe even more than twice. That might be three times the size. Here's my question. Those don't even look like the same species. It doesn't. That's what I was going to say.

It looks like a woolly mammoth is stepping on a bumblebee. So I want us to guess looking at those pictures, what is the relative shoe size of each person? Because if you think that kicker wears a 10, then that means that lineman wears a 20. It looks to be very extreme each way, not like some kind of just the way that's distorted, the image. This looks like about a 7.5 shoe and about a 27 and a half shoe. The kicker's shoe can't be more than a 9. Yeah, I was going like 18 and 8 maybe. You think the guy's 18?

Yeah. I mean, I have really big feet, and I wear like 12 and a half. And I'm 6'4 for those of you that don't live. And so I have four, like I have the biggest size of shoe you can have in like buy it in the store. You get bigger than me, you have to order. And I agree with you. I think he's like an 18. and I think it is

that picture needs to go in the Smithsonian. I'm surprised the 49ers didn't have another injury. I mean, is Eddie P, all right? He was hurt. He was limped for a while. Yeah, I mean, you see him limp off in this video. That shoe might be in the 20s. Might be going Shaq style.

Look up, what's the biggest foot? Shack was 22, 23, is what I looked up. But what was like Yow? Like what's the biggest foot known to man? I mean, there's got to be, because Shaq was big, but there have been people taller than Shaq. Yeah. Biggest U.S. size was a 37 AA owned by Robert Wadlow,

the tallest man in history. A 37 AA. Wow. So he was 15 sizes bigger than Shaq. Yeah, lived from 1918 to 19, I bet it was really hard for him to get shoes. Although he probably knew what, cobbler. Yeah, he probably people lined up wanting to make his shoes.

I don't know why I thought that was so funny. There's just a word. That's a funny word. Yeah. Isn't that what old shoemaker's were? Yeah, yeah. I thought cobbler was dessert. All right.

Let's go to London. Broncos beat the Jets 13 to 11. because I was doing the ESPN morning show. I had this game on the whole time. Justin Fields, and I don't know if it was Justin Fields, his offensive line, Aaron Glenn, or all of them. It's the worst offense that's ever been played. They combined total passing yards, negative 10.

It's hard to do. 45 yards in the air and then 55 yards in sack. He was sacked nine times. It's the worst passing performance by a team, Drew, in 27 years of NFL action. I was in Denver. This game started at 7 a.m. I was in a wedding last night. All the groomsmen wanted to get up together and watch this at 7 a.m.

Because they're all Broncos fans. I said, hell no. But I did get up and I turned it on. They all got up after the wedding and watched it. The city of Denver, it was like a party at 7 a.m. If you were out, there were people to bar. Is that right? Okay. That's what's kind of neat about these London games.

is how you kind of get that morning, make it unique. So you're, but your buddy got married. Yes. Last night. In Denver. And everyone got up and still watched the game. All the groomsmen are big Broncos fan. Yeah, one of the groomsmen invited me to come over and lay on his couch.

I was like, no, I'm not getting up to watch. You're just, I did get up to watch it in my hotel. You want to come lay on my couch, Billy? Shout out to Tyler. Come lay on my couch. About halfway through the second quarter, I thought, I don't, there's no reason I need to be up watching this right now at 8 a.m. Now at this point. So I just completely turned it off and went back.

and got my beauty rest for cover zero, but absolutely brutal game to be the only one on. And with that said, the Jets should have won. The Jets were at the 43-yard line, first and 10. They needed to get five yards to get into field-goal range, and Justin Fields got sacked twice, and they ended up out of field-goal range, and we're not able to get it.

The Jets are, you want to talk about cheeks. I mean, I thought, Aaron Glenn might have something. You know, he got a little fire. I liked him. Well, let's talk about that for a minute. So they got in a fight where they got in a confrontation. Aaron Glenn and Garrett Wilson.

At the end of the first half, they sort of jawed at each other. And they asked Garrett Wilson after the game about it. And his quote was, and I'm paraphrasing, something to the effect of, before the game, I didn't know what the game plan was. and then when we started, I saw what it was and it made me angry. I was disappointed. I was disappointed.

A couple of interesting things about that. Presumably, he should have known the game plan before. It's true. I don't think that's a big part of your job. He's paid well to be a part of that team. You think it wasn't shared with him before? I'm going to assume that they give their game plan

to maybe their best player on the entire roster. It's not like a movie. where you want to be surprised. There's no spoiler alert. Here's what we're doing. Yeah. Right? Was it Jamarcus Russell when they gave him a playbook of blank pages

and he just never, like, didn't even open it? They tested him. Yeah. It's probably more of Garrett Wilson just wasn't doing his homework. And they did it with Kyle Murray too, right? Like on his iPad, they found that he never opened it. Yeah, they were tracking how long the screen time was like zero or whatever. Yeah.

For those of you around the country, Drew and I cover Kentucky basketball. and they put in a new system where they charted all shots taken in the practice gym. And they wanted the coaches to every day. This was when Caliperi was the coach. They wanted the coaches to every day they had different things they were supposed to monitor. And they found, after the season was over, that of the five assistant coaches, three of them had never logged in. It wasn't just the shooting system. It had like their recruiting.

It was like their whole operation. They're like me and I heart. I've never checked my mail. They were like that except with what they needed to do on their daily thing. Makes you wonder, how often do you think this happens? A lot. We've already named four stories of guys just doing absolutely nothing. And these are people in prominent positions, the quarterbacks and white.

You know there are lots of guys on the team who don't. Or coaches. I've always thought that memorizing the playbook has to be hard, right? Yeah, that's why many people aren't cut out for doing it a high level. But then you have a dude like Joe Flacco who's always. on the team for three days. So how does that work? Joe, drop back and just throw it to Jamar Chase.

I do think that's interesting. But anyway, Garrett Wilson ended up being disappointed. And they're wasting him. He's so good and just getting nothing done with him. And what was the, there was a quote from the running back earlier this year. What was his quote? Reese Hall. Reese Hall.

He had a quote that was something funny. What was it about this? Look it up. He had a quote, I think it was after. the third or fourth game of the season where he said something like, well, I can't remember. There's a funny quote from him. Broncos, Big Win. I got the quote.

What is it? Because I knew you were talking about it's teams shoot themselves in the foot, but then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head. That's kind of a poetic quote. Most teams shoot themselves in the foot. We turn back around and then shoot ourselves. Just a double check to make sure we're not going in. I don't know. I think actually he could be a writer.

Yeah, that's deep. That is a really good quote. Rogers and the Steelers. 23 to nine winners over the Browns. The Steelers are four and one. I cannot stand Aaron Rogers. I mean, he might be my least favorite. No, he is my least favorite athlete.

I don't want to say of all time, but certainly in the last, howevermore, with that set, he had a couple throws today that looked like the old Aaron Rogers, including one into the back of the end zone for a touchdown, that I thought was vintage him at his best. That's the one where he's rolling out? Yes.

Yeah, I saw Twitter's going, was going crazy during the game with vintage Rogers in those clips. I would have bet against him this season. I thought this was going to be an absolute joke. We're just going to have to watch him try to go out and play one more year. But, man, he can still do it. He's definitely old. I don't know if he's going to get him back to the level where they want him to be.

or want them to take them, but every once while, like today, he just makes them throws as all he can do. He's already better than I think, I thought he'd be. I thought they were going to be a circus, kind of a joke. I did too. Then let's look at their next few games. They're four and one. They go to Cincinnati. Then they play the Packers at home, Colts at home at Chargers.

That's a tough run. Bingles at home, then Bears, Bills, but the Ravens, they play the Ravens twice in the last five weeks. That doesn't look as hard as it did earlier in the year. or they play the dolphins. I mean, it's there for them to make the playoffs if they can, you know. Well, that division's so bad that they should make the playoffs. It's a matter of can they win a game when they get there. That game against the Bengals.

That's Thursday night. That's a big game in Cincinnati. I mean, if you're the Bengals and you want to have a shot at winning the division, you kind of have to win that game, right? Yeah, I just, I know they're still hopeful. There's some life in the Bengals. I think that door was shut. I don't you think, Billy?

He looked okay. Yeah. What do you mean, okay? Well, we'll get to him. Flacco was not wacko. I want to talk about the Browns. Dylan Gabriel was not good. They threw it like 50-something times.

Imagine. I mean, they don't eat. Felt more. Shador, he's just not going to get in, right? No, no. I don't even, I mean, I guess they drafted him because at that point, somebody had to pick him up. But they don't have a plan for him. Which of these two statistics is more insane about the Browns?

First of all, 11 straight games without scoring 17 points. That's nuts. That reminds me of Kentucky. Or they're paying eight quarterbacks this season. I think that's my favorite. Also, just with their history, when we did the show that, you with Billy filled in, what was it? 42, 41 people are now on that starting jersey. Oh, yeah.

The starting quarterbacks in 10-Cal. Yeah. 42 different quarterbacks, too. The Browns have been cursed. All right. So now the question is, can we name between me and you all eight quarterbacks that they are paying this year? They're currently still paying? Yeah, sure.

All right. So let's go. We've got you got Dylan Gabriel and Sador Sanders. That's correct. Flacco. Mm-hmm. Right? Yes, they're paying him for, they've paid him.

Deshaun Watson. Yep. That's four. Bailey Zappy. That's correct. So he's still getting... He's on the practice squad. Oh, that's right.

That's right. So that's five. Are they still paying New Puntley? Nope. Okay. Think New York, E to W. Okay. James.

Oh, they're still paying James? 2.2 million this year. Wow. They're paying James. So that's six, but we still have two more. Who was it when it was so bad when they rolled the dice on Deshaun? Oh, no, no. Are they paying the kid from UCLA Thompson that's in with the Raiders?

That's it. Dorian Thompson Robinson. Okay, so they're still paying him. I got the other one pick it. That's it. That's all eight. Well, that's pretty good. We got all eight.

I can't believe they're still paying the Dorian Thompson Robinson. I can't believe they're paying half the names you just said. Wow. And between all of those, no one's good. Yeah, how many of those guys are even still throwing a football? Well, they're all in the league somewhere. But they're not throwing footballs. But how about the fact that they have eight guys and not one of them is good?

That's got, I know it's an NFL franchise. This is kind of normal, not to this point, but it's got a hurt in accounting right in these checks. Some of these checks are these guys that are, their careers are pretty much over. They did nothing for you and you're still just paying them. But, you know, the Reds in baseball last year was the last year. was the last year they were still paying Kim Griffey Jr. At least that was you're writing it.

You're writing it to King Griffey Jr. Imagine you're writing a check to Kenny Pickett. But isn't that a crazy step that they were paying? I think it was like two years ago, King Griffey Jr. was the third highest paid player on the roster. Just old gray-haired sitting at home still getting money.

And everyone else was like, there were 23 guys being paid less than Kim Griffey Jr. Let's go to Miami. The Chargers beat the dolphins. Dolphins got the lead late, but then Chargers, Justin Herbert, makes a last minute drive, had a couple great throws on the drive to get them in field goal range, then Dicker the kicker makes the kick. Justin Herbert with a great drive, that's nice, but really the story's the dolphins. Which is more interesting to you. Tua's comments. after the game, which were pretty tone-deaf and clueless, or Mike McDaniel's pants that

he was wearing that were hiked up to his knees, the jogger pants. Let's do the pants. He wears the caprice. Right. I didn't see today's pair, but he does it every week. He does. He takes, like, what I'm wearing, but then he, like, he jacks it up to, like, right there and then walks around.

What do you think of that as a look for an NFL coach? I'm not a fan. I even today saw people doing that at the airport where it was, like, pulled up, and whatever, where it you want to wear, especially the airport. but it just seems unnecessary. Just, just, we'll say football. Yeah.

I mean, there is a sense that it's a, it's a, it's a sport full of tea. Yeah. And that feels like a low tea thing, right? Like their capri pants or it's like he's pulling them up intentionally. If they were designed that way, all right, you got a weird pair of pants. Maybe your tailor's just really bad at getting your insane. Aaron Lend though did the same thing. It's weird.

I don't need my coaches to, you know, look all professional over there. but it does feel a little... But it also means that as of this moment, the Capri Pants coaches are 1 in 11. That should tell them enough. I feel like that says maybe you shouldn't do it. Yeah, the NFL grade coaches of all time. Any of them wearing the Capri Pants?

That's true. Who could you see in Capri Pants less? I think Vince... Actually, I can now see it. Jordan asked him to wear them. I can see Jordan saying you need to update your resume. Tom Landry Andy Randry

Tom Landry with that hat wearing the Caprican pants would be funny same with Vince LaVarty I would like that so I have the game Tua said that they had players only meetings this week and that some players

didn't come and the others were very late that's not a good sign is it no I probably would have just not mentioned the meeting at all He also said the leaders on this team are going to have to step up. Presumably he would be one of those. Yeah, he didn't.

Tyreek, he literally can't step up. He's on crutches. So throw him out. But when he said the leadership of this team, who else is it going to be? Usually leadership of a team, you can look straight at the quarterback. Start there. Again, check the box. That's two of here.

They're just a complete mess. I don't even know what you do. There was no one at that game. Did you see the crowd? I didn't see the crowd. I mean, there was no one. I mean, part of it is you're playing the Chargers who themselves have no fans. But there was no one at the game.

It was, it was empty. And they also said, you remember it was in the preseason that they said tardiness was an issue last year. That's right. So clearly that people just will not be on time. Don't you have to get rid of Mike McDaniel? This comes out, hopefully, Monday morning. I would assume Mike McDaniel's gone very soon after, right? Yeah, I mean, the Capri's one thing that's funny,

but his bit of where he acts like he's like just a teenager that sits in his room and plays video games all the league. And they're losing. Yeah, when your players are not showing up and there doesn't seem to be a lot of discipline, and that little gimmick wears thin real quick. I think I saw that he has only like two or three wins against teams with winning records.

It's an amazingly small number for a guy in his third year as a head coach. He doesn't have much left. Yeah. I mean, I would think there's a chance when you listen to this. He might be gone. All right, Patriots beat the Saints. Saints, once again, surprisingly spry and competitive. But Drake May, what was the stat you said, Bill?

You had a stat about him something historic. Yeah, so Drake May joins Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, and Dan Marino as the only quarterbacks aged 23 or younger, with 200 plus passing yards and a 100 plus passer rating in five consecutive games. Patriots are 4 and 2. That's a lot of words, but it sounds impressive. I mean, I said last week that Drake May, that was the coming out party. Are you in on Drake May, like completely?

Are you ready to say top level quarterback? I am. Not like superstar level, but definitely a guy that, you know, if I'm a Patriots fan, I'm excited to have Drake May on my team. He's, I don't know the exact number. He hadn't had many turnovers this year. Vrable's got them playing a fun brand of football. I like Drake May.

I have the weird Luke May connection from the North Carolina days that still makes people uncomfortable, but Drake May does look like to be the future, and they're in good hands. And they have a lot of winnable games on their schedule. I mean, they play, here's the next few weeks. Titans, Browns, Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bingles, Giants. Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins. I mean, that is a... Really easy.

That is a very easy schedule. They have a chance to be something like, you know, 13 and 4 or 12 and 5, something like that. And you mentioned it next week, Vrable going back to Nashville where they booted them out. You know they're going to win that one easily. Yeah. I don't know how good they actually are because the Saints could have won this game. The Saints were pretty competitive. in this game throughout.

They had the ball at the end with a chance to make a drive. There's nothing that scares you less than Spencer Rattler has the ball with a chance to drive down the field. I had the world's strongest man, Mark Henry, as my celebrity guest picker on my ESP. I love Marshall. Yes. Nation of domination. And we were in a short time frame, so I had said to Mark, listen, you can't, like on these games, you're just going to have to do like a sentence on each game. he did except when it came time to pick Patriot Saints

he had a good 30 second rant about how bad Spencer Rattler was he was like I touched a nerve with Mark Henry he was like I'm going to get out my Spencer Rattler tape no matter what you say even though Spencer Rattler until today he was on a one game win streak in his career no he was like I watched Spencer Rattler playing college he was bad then he's bad now

I was like all right Mark it's okay To give Spencer and the Saints a little bit of credit. They were competitive. They were competitive today against a very good team. They beat the Giants a week ago. And they never were going to beat Buffalo. But what was that spread? Like 17 and a half.

They played Buffalo close to the fourth quarter. So, you know, they don't, you're not going to make the playoffs with moral victories. But they haven't been absolutely trash in the last three weeks. The Rams beat the Ravens 17 to 3. The less said about this game, the better. The Broncos Jets, I thought it was the worst. worst game I'd ever seen. And then I remember that the Rams Ravens, Red Zone only showed 45 seconds of this game. It was terrible. I didn't get to watch the first half. Well, when I finally pulled

it up on my phone, it was three to three at halftime. And I'm like, I don't even care to even know anything else about this game. If it's three to three at halftime, when two teams that were supposed to be Super Bowl contenders are playing each other, that's an excuse me. They're Brady on this game. This was the big game. I mean, this was the Brady game. I mean, just with the logos, this is a huge game. And they benched Cooper Rush for Snoop Huntley. I don't know. I don't know who that's worse for. If you're Cooper Rush, you got to be like, I mean, I get it when they put DAC in back in. But Snoop.

He had Derek Henry today and couldn't even score points. Derek Henry finally had a big game after doing nothing the last week. The Ravens are the biggest shock in the league this year. For the Rams to win by 14 and still be. be like, yeah, we stunk. That's, that's a, that's a bad game. That was the less said about that, but the better. Colts and Cardinals, however, was actually a great game. But Colts win 31, 27, but there's only one thing that matters about this game, which is the pregame injuries. I know the Colts are five and one, but they had two players get hurt during warmups. Seriously hurt. This is scary. Anthony Richardson with an orbital fracture, he was apparently

using one of those bands that you use to stretch and it snapped and hit him in the eye and broke his face. Crazy. I almost said, how does it happen? I mean, I don't want to make fun of him because that's not. But that feels like something I would have done. Like, normally you would think the person that does that is not the most coordinated person in the world, right? Probably not by quarterback. Second quarterback.

How does that happen? Was it one of those things where he looked around like, I hope that wasn't on camera. He immediately looks to see if anyone noticed. No, he was on the ground in pain. He snapped himself in the face. That's what he did. And then he was out. Had to go to the hospital.

The other one, where they got. He had to go to the hospital? Yeah, orbital fracture. What does that mean? It's, I guess, what, your cheek? I think it's your eye. It's just the bones fractured. So it was the bones?

Mm-hmm. Okay. So he broke his face. Yeah, more or less. Poor guy. Just warming up. He must have really been stretching, though. Like, I can't pull those bands far enough that it would do that.

He probably had two, I would have gone down a band. I forget the color, what the order is. Yeah, there's a green and yellow. He should have done one more, one less. And then, Tavarius Ward and another player, in this video is crazy, are both running routes and don't see each other and just knock each other out. Like, no helmets on. That was scary, especially Ward the cornerback.

I mean, he just goes motionless on the ground. How does that happen? I don't know. I mean, you know, they're in their different kind of stations, doing different drills and just warm it up. You got to have somebody watching. Yeah, or, you know, I guess he's kind of looking back a little bit. Just just a fluke thing to happen.

But yeah, they're too close together. And somebody should have hit him with a, hey, hey, hey, hey, but I guess it happens so fast. You know, if you're the Colts, you get one bad injury during, warm-ups. Do you just look? All right, guys. Let's take it in. Yeah, if we're not even hitting each other yet, and we have a guy in the hospital and one out cold.

You have two in the course of, apparently they happen within like eight minutes of each other. Oh, no. Well, I guess it had to have been just on the field, warming up before the game. Yeah, you just pack it in at that point. I think you do. And then they still won the game. It was actually a very competitive game. Cardinals played Jacobi Brissette.

I feel like every time Jacoby Brissette plays, he's better than a lot of quarterbacks that play. Right. Back up to have. Yeah, but I would think if you're like the Saints or the Jets, why is he not on your team? I feel like every time he plays, last year he cost the Patriots that one year

the first pick in the draft, right? Because he went out of one. Because he won the final game. I don't know why he doesn't get to play more. Yeah, we mentioned teams that need to go out and find a new quarterback. We've wondered should, Someone calls Chadour.

I mean, that's a name I would certainly consider. I mean, he's been bounced around a lot. He's got to be getting old. I feel like he's been around the league forever. Because he played for the Colts and the Patriots twice. He was what? Andrew Lucks back up with the Colts. And then he was the Patriots, he was Brady's backup a little bit.

He was a dolphin at one point. He was a dolphin. Well, now he's with the Cardinals. Do you believe in the Colts as a contender? I do. As a contender? Yeah, I hate the, it's just, it's been like, every week they just look too good.

They've had plenty of opportunities to fall off. They've had tough games. I think we've even said, all right, this is the week. The Colts come back down to earth and they just keep winning. But you're willing to say contender? I'm saying contender. It's a strong statement.

I don't know if I'm there yet. Rolled in there. Like the AFC teams, right when I'm ready to think, all right, this is the one. Then they go out and lay an egg. And I think the AFC is a little more open than we thought it was going to be a few weeks ago. You're probably right. It's random statistic maybe in football.

Seahawks beat the Jaguars 20 to 12. The Seahawks have won nine straight road games. They got to get rid of the 12th man then at home. But yet they've not been great. So, I mean, I don't know what their home record is, but if I told you there's a team in the NFL that's won nine straight road games, you would have guessed 15 teams before you guessed the Seahawks, wouldn't you? Yeah.

I mean, for one, I wouldn't think anyone would be capable of doing that, but it would have to be bills, chiefs. Yeah, you'd go to the big dogs. No, that's crazy. Nine straight road here and getting in Jacksonville. Yeah. Liam Cohen said that the dysfunction today was unacceptable. But he didn't use the word dysfunction,

which isn't it you, the leader, that would cause the dysfunction? He didn't say execution. He said dysfunction. What did he say? Was his tone kind of like calling himself out or players or what? because that is calling out the overall operation. I think he was saying the whole operation. I didn't feel like he was putting it on the players.

I mean, I think he was putting it kind of on everybody. Travis Hunter had a huge drop in this game. Like there was a big play. You know, they haven't gone to him a lot. There's a big play. It was right in his hands and he drops it. And they end up having a punt. And then I don't even know if they got the ball back after that.

That was big. You know, you keep waiting. He's had a couple moments. He had a moment against the Chiefs last week, but still probably not worthy of, what we've seen as a second pick. And right when I was ready to crown Jacksonville as a team to watch, this is a game I thought they'd win.

Maybe if you're going to be good, you've got to win this one. Yeah, especially at home. I didn't know about the eight straight wins for the Seahawks going into this game on the road, but I still was disappointed Jacksonville and get done. I thought they'd win this one. Titans? Man, it's really. I was in the airport today at that sports bar mentioned.

The table next to me, they were into the NFL. They had their computers out doing like fantasy whatever. in an airport bar. I hate those people, by the way. I did too. I almost asked them. If you have your computer out on your fantasy team, you're a dork. And not even like at home on your cat.

Like you're at an airport. I mean, you're at home and you check your phone, that's fine. Check it on your phone. That's fine. But if you pull out a computer in a public space to check your fantasy team, you're a dork and you need to be, I would have yelled at them. I know my team's bad. I still love them.

I'm the only one allowed to make fun of them. Are they going to win the game this year? I know they won just a week or two ago. The only reason they won that is because they're so bad at tanking. They had to get a win somewhere because they can't even tank right to get the number one pick. They're awful. I liked Ward for about three weeks. Today, he was objectively bad.

You're done with him already. I'm not done with him, but like I was excited about him. He looked horrible today. He did look really bad. He looked horrible. I know he doesn't have any help. I'm not saying he won't become something on down the road, but I'm not even excited to watch him have like two good highlights again. What is more depressing?

Tennessee Titans football, Kentucky football. See, you just named my weekends in the fall. They're both so depressing. I'm going to say the Titans. I think they are. Because this team is bad and Callahan's awful, but their draft picks going back the last six, seven years been bad. And there's no transfer portal.

I know. The GM has changed three times the last few years. It is just the whole operation is embarrassing. James Franklin got fired. Should the Titans coach have followed him out the door? Yes. Game Day was at Oregon. The sun's not even up yet.

It's so early in the morning. And right behind the game day set, there's a fire Brian Callahan sign at the Oregon game. So it's made its way to college football Saturdays. Since you brought up game day, Billy, Pat Mac is 40 years old, right? Yeah, I see. Why is he always taking his shirt off? Well, they got to have it.

Why has everybody taking their shirt off? Who's asking for that? Who's the person that says I would like, I would like the shirts off? Well, I don't think the shirt is the specific ask, but there's a void now that Lee Corso's got. I'm fine with the, who's on today? Like, I'm fine with all that.

Like, he can do all that. But why the shirt off? Like, Dan Lannning took his shirt off too. Did you see that? At 6.30 in the morning or whatever? Yeah. And then Thursday night football, Ron Fitzpatrick takes his shirt off.

That one's a little better. He's got the dad bod. Exactly. If you're going to take your shirt off, I'm with you. If you're going to take your shirt off, be fat. Or that big chest hair. Yeah, if it's fun. But McAfee's in just good enough shape that it seems like he's like bragging by doing it.

You know what I mean? Like if Jason Kelsey wants to take his shirt off, I'm good with it. Right? That 360-pound lineman for Alabama, take your shirt off. But what McAfee? What is that? Why can't he just go, who's your word? Like, that's fine.

Why can't he just do that? You know, I don't know. Is it a manly thing to take your shirt off? You know, it's on. We're here, ready to go. But you're doing a broadcast on a set preview to game. But I just want you to think about, what, 20 years ago? Like, imagine you were watching the news, and Tom Brokaw just took his shirt off.

Oh, that would have been awesome. I think we would have loved that. But even in sports. Right? Brett Musburger. You're looking live. You're looking live at my nipples. I think more shows need to incorporate this.

Your brok all image that's now burning my head right now. Keith Morrison on Dayline, let's just rip that shirt on. Again, Madden for it. I think Madden would have been great doing it. Tom Brady, no. Tom Brady, we don't need it. You're too good looking. What about Chris Collinsworth?

Because we're one Pat Mahomes' two-yard runaway from that shirt. I think his shirt's off during the game now. They make him put it on before they cut to the booth shot. We're going live to Chris. Put the shirt on. Poor Tariko. Please get your quarter zip on for just a minute. Anyway, I don't know how I got off on that.

Cowboys. losing Carolina to the Panthers, 30 to 27. Rico Daldale, you may remember last week, he said, they're going to remember my name. Jerry Jones was asked before the game about that comment. He said, he did one of the, who, he was like, ooh, our players can't even come out there. And, well, they did remember.

his name, 236 yards, or 339 yards from scrimmage. Yeah, he absolutely lit them up. It's his first year not being a cowboy. He was there four or five years. I'm a cowboy's guy, but I was pretty happy for Dalla to call a shot. I didn't think the Panthers could actually win this one, but it was a good moment for him. He's had two huge weeks back to back. Had the door open that gave him a chance last week, and he ran through that door and has made the most of it. Jerry Jones did like Bill Murray and King Penn. Well, he put it in their face.

Panthers are three and three, Bryce Young? Like, I mean, are they something? I'm not ready to call Bryce Young anything, but the Panthers. Three and three? Oh, no, yeah. I mean, the wins, what was it, dolphins last week, I think. Yeah. Not trying to downplay it too much.

So let me give you their schedule. They had a 30 and 0 shut out of the Falcons. They started all this. Play the Jets next week. Okay, that's a win. Four and three. Then they got the Bills and the Packers. But then after that, Saints, Falcons, 49ers, Ram, Saints, you know.

Okay, they'll win. They'll beat the Jet. A few more games. Yeah. They'll probably get brought to Earth when the bills come to town. Yeah, I mean, they're not winning their division. I don't know they're going to get a wild card spot. It's still nice, though, to see them be not as sad.

Yeah, they're turning the corner. I don't know if Bryce Young's a big part of them turning the corner, but Rico, doubt of the last two weeks been a big part of it. What about the Cowboys? You know, they're having a magical year from DAC and still they're what, two, two and one or whatever? Yeah, it's two and three. The defense can't stop anybody. It's the DAC year Cowboys fans wanted forever ago and he's finally giving it to him and they're just, they're awful. But they've got, I mean, they shouldn't be. Pickens, that trade was great for Pickens. Pickens. He's been awesome. Dak looks good.

but their defense, they just, they don't have it. Russell Wilson, I think it was like 41 points, 45 points. When you let Russell Wilson take the Giants into the 40s on you, your defense has big holes. We'll finish with the Packers win against the Bengals, 2718. Bengals looked awful in the first half, as Flacco was learning the playbook. But then by the second half, they had a pulse. You think they, I mean, you know, they're two and four. That's about what they are every year at this time.

Can Flacco get some wins until you can get Burrow by the end of the year? You're just to your done. I thought second half Flacco played well. I was so in on Joe Flacco today watching him. I wanted him to beat the Packers twice in one season with the Bengals and Browns. He almost threw it 50-something times. I didn't expect that. But if you told me Joe Flacco had two touchdowns, no interceptions,

and 200-some yards in that debut game, after stopping at the flea market on his way down from Cleveland, then yeah, I would take that as a Bengals fan. I don't know if it's going to turn into much for the year, but they made the right move moving on from Brown. It's clear Jamar Chase likes him more. I mean, it's clear he likes, likes him. I, you know, we have to get used to the fact that we now work with the NFL.

You can see these logos behind us. So sometimes I'm like, are there things in life that I say, can I say them now? because I used to be my standard was can I say this in front of my mom. But I know my mom doesn't know what everything means. Now I have to sit and think, can I say this in front of Jerry Jones? And Roger Goodell. And Roger Goodell.

Who's watching? So I don't think I can read what Jamar Chase said about the game next week to the Steelers. Do you think I can just say what he said? Yeah, probably not to be recorded here on a podcast. You don't think I can say it. But this was his quote. You can say it. It might get bleeped like the Titans' famous catchphrase that we say so often.

Oh, it gets bleeped? Yeah. Oh, that gets bleeped. I'll stop saying it so much. He said it in an NFL press conference. I know. Well, Jamar Chase said this today, too. Well, we'll just leave it.

I'll paraphrase. They would like to beat us next week. I remember some terms in there. A lot of liberties that's a paraphrase of what he said. I remember a few other lines in there. Let's just say he's excited for the game. You can look it up. McPherson, the Bengals kicker, he at a 67-yarder at the end of the first half.

He kicked it. It hit the goal post and went through. All-time NFL record longest kick in the history of the league. But the Packers had called timeout. right before he kicked it. He didn't miss it the second time. Do you think they should be allowed to call the time out right before the kick? Yeah. I mean, it stinks for Evan McPherson that he had a record taken away. But if you're a Packers fan or LaFleur who called it, I mean, you got to be patting yourself on the back. Like, yeah, I know that,

I know that ice in him right there. So I like it. As a fan, do you? I mean, like, you don't want to see that, do you? Part of the game. If you're a Packers fan, you probably loved it when that happened. Well, now the Packers kicker, let me see if I can say his name right. Lucas have Renny's Rizik? Sounds about right. We'll just call him Lucas.

Lucas, he was signed this week to kick. They were asking him what he was doing before. And he's like been signed by like four teams but not gotten to kick. Today he got to kick. And he said if they hadn't signed me, I was probably just going to substitute teach.

Wow. I room for that guy. Yeah. Right. Also, of all things you do, like I'm going to substitute. Is there any profession you get less respect than a substitute teacher? Like if I, I've tried to think about what are the jobs that on a day-to-day basis, people treat you the worst? I know number one.

But I think substitute teaching has to be in the top five, especially if you're doing high school. Now, little kids. See, I had a lot of substitute teachers. They would walk in. They would turn on a movie and they would sit down and not say a word. And we love them. We knew if we had Mr. Gilbert, he would come in. He would fall asleep at the desk.

So we would get away with whatever we wanted. He was out cold. Cool running was on the TV. And we're all goofing off in the class. So I think some substitute teachers don't fall into this. I saw a substitute gym teacher at Millsborough High School write Enick Huff. he wrote 43 detentions for him in one class stuff he just kept writing it because he would go if you speak if you say anything again enic I'll write it and he'd write it and he said anything and he just kept doing it and he walked and I was working in the office he walked and handed 43 detentions in that's nuts now imagine that guy and the principal's like I mean I can't do 43 The real teacher comes back and throws those.

Yeah, maybe one, maybe. But imagine that guy then going and kicking for the Packers, because that's kind of what this guy did. He could have been writing detentions, but instead he's in Lambo, blast and field goals. Profession where you get the most hate, without question, has to be the person that's working where people complain about lost baggage at the airport. I was going to say the gate agent at an airport, lost baggage.

Lost baggage has to be the worst. Because no one's coming to the, At least with the gate agent, there'll be people who are like, oh, have a nice day. And they'll scan their ticket. Good luck. Thank you. We're heading to Disney. When you work in the luggage thing, no one's coming to you happy.

No one. There's no reason to talk to those people unless you're mad. And the luggage person had nothing to do with it. They're just sitting in a chair. Their hands were completely free of all of this. And if they don't know where your bag is, you're mad at them. Oh, yeah. And you're telling them to find it, and they're telling you, I don't have a damn way of finding it right now.

I just have this computer screen. What do you want from me? All I can promise you is it'll show up at your house and a van in the next 48 hours. Can I throw in Little League Umpire or AAU ref? AAU ref would be back. Little League umpire, it's little kids. Probably most of the time it's okay. AAU ref's got to be back because nobody says the AAU ref, man.

Great job. You really called a good one today. All those parents traveling. Yeah. Hey, you, ref. I like that one. That one's a good. That one's hot news.

You got one, Drew? Oh, my, we both had the same thought on the airport gate agent. I'm trying to think of someone you call and complain. Anyone that's just taking the phone calls if you're angry. So those those games, let's look at some of our leagues here. Drew's already out of the Survivor League. Billy and I are still in it. I had the Packers.

They won, although, you know, it wasn't easy. You Billy had the Colts. You were in a close one a lot of the day, but you and I both continue to move on for another week. Yes, exciting in our two-man race here in the Survivor Bowl. But for people who don't know, last year we did a 50-person race. And the two finalists were Billy and former number one pick Tim Couch. And it was a celebrity league, 50 celebrities and Billy. 49 celebrities and Billy.

And Billy was one of the last two people left. And in our three-person league here, Billy is again one of the last two people left. So you're pretty good at the Survivor League. I'll see if I can finish the job this time. Okay. In our touchdown league, Drew had Sequin Barclay. He did not score a touchdown. You had Devante Adams, no touchdown.

No touchdown. I had Daniel Jones who did score a touchdown. So I got a point. Now, Billy has two. I have two. And Drew, you have one. I need to get some wins here You know, not being in the Survivor League thing is already embarrassing enough.

It hurts you, doesn't it? Well, it's not that I'm heard that someone else is going to win. It's that I just have to sit here awkwardly while you all talk about it. I'm like, just feel like I'm not even a part of the show during that segment. Yeah. No, that is a problem. It's fun. Survivor leagues are fun.

It is. We already have to sit and think, what are we going to do next week? Drew doesn't even get to participate there. I'll be right back. You guys talk about your league. Yeah. Let's talk real quick about the Thursday night and the Monday night. games. Eagles

lose to the Giants. Are you on the Scatabo train? Love him. Love him. I was already on this train, really before we even got drafted by the Giants. I liked watching him in college. But now that he's doing the NFL, the same stuff, blocking an offensive lineman pancakeing him.

We mentioned it several times how he just keeps getting dirty when they're playing on turf. I don't understand it. But he's just so fun. He's an old school football player that you don't see very much anymore. Yeah, he and Jack and dart, a lot of excitement in New York City. Neither of them kind of feel New York-ish in there, but the city seems to love them, and they've added some fun.

I thought that when they did their interview on the field, it's just the two of them, and I'm kind of thinking like, this is the face of the Giants, these two dudes that when they got drafted, both of them had concerns of like, well, these guys even pan out at all, and now Giants fans love them both. Do you think Dayball should be getting trouble for trying to store them in the 10th there? I didn't see that part. You'll have to catch me up. So Jackson Dart got put in the injury tent.

They were checking him for a concussion. And it was a big fourth down. And Dave all wanted him to play. Well, then just, he kind of walked in like, all right, get him out of here. We need him. He later apologized and said that he screwed that up. Coaches in the moment, this has happened before, you know,

there's the concussion protocol and you get the test. There's been clips in the past. So coaches are like, let's speed up this protocol, get him back out there. But let's check on their heads and make sure they're pretty good. You can't really do that anymore. No. But if you look like, he stuck his head in the tent like, hey, now.

Yeah. It's like helping him with the test, so he passes it. Yeah. But they still won the game. All right, Monday night football. This is, we're taping this late on Sunday night. So we got the bills at the Falcons. I take the view, don't ever bet on a Falcons game one way or the other, but I'm big on the bills here.

They're not losing two in a row. Me too. And it's a low spread. If I'm not mistaken, I'm right. Yeah, three and a half. I'm going to hammer that one. Bill's shouldn't have lost last week. They'll bounce back and win big here.

Yeah, I think they, and I would think a lot of Bill's fans will make the trip to that game. And then the big one is Bears Commanders. I think it's a huge game for Caleb Williams. I mean, in terms of, it was last year that the Hail Mary flipped it, really flipped the Bears season, also kind of launched Jaden Daniels into the conversation as one of the great players, certainly the best rookie last year. now you flip it, now you're playing there, chance to get it back. I think it's a big game for them.

And what? Y'all have won two in a row? They have, yes. Yeah, there's some optimism. You go win a prime time game like this with all things you just said, and you can really think that maybe Caleb Williams and the Bears are on the right track here. Well, there looks in that way, but this would be a great win. They have so many quarterbacks in that class, and they're starting to kind of get into tears, right?

So, Jay and Daniels and Drake May feel pretty good. J.J. McCarthy, Michael Pinnix. I don't know that you can say when way or the other. Bo Nix has been solid, but you really don't know where to put Caleb Williams yet. Like it's not really clear which group he's in. This would be a good chance to say I should be in that top group. Definitely. And I can't speak for your fan base. But it seems like the last couple weeks, there's been a little more belief in him. A lot of the bus talk has evaporated for a little bit. So if you go win a Monday night football game and if he plays well, I think it'll be. I don't know if it'll move him up a tier or not, but he'll answer some questions. Yeah, I think this would be, if he can play well, you know, I feel good that May and Daniels are going to be good.

Nix, I still don't know. I'm kind of got Caleb there. I want to put him in that top group. So there you go. Next week, do we have another London game next week? How many London games are left? There's a lot this year. Are they playing them every week, Billy?

Do you know? There is one at Wembley Stadium in London, Rams, and Jacksonville. This is big. They love the Jags over there. Although they are, both teams are four and two. On paper, that doesn't sound like a good game, but that might be the best game they get over there this year, right? I'd say if London had a team, it's the Jaguar.

So this is their big game here. The Jaguars, a big game for them falling up. I wasn't going to attempt that. But, yeah. Well, thank you folks very much. nice to have you back from the wedding. If you're, if you. Congratulations to Michael and Becca, by the way.

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