KSR - NFL Cover Zero: Halloween Costumes, Trade Deadline, and Early Playoff Picture!

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin prepare for NFL Week 9 with a BIG announcement for the show!  Halloween is around the corner and Matt wants to rank NFL player costumes.  Aidan Hutchinson gets an extension from the Lions.  The season is over for Carson Wentz.  Will Marcedes Lewis make history signing with the Broncos?    Onto NFL Week 9, Lamar Jackson is back on the field as the Ravens visit the Dolphins.  Does Drew need to find a new NFL team after getting an email from the Titans? Matt is looking forward to going to Bears-Bengals this weekend.  The NFL Trade deadline is around the corner, which teams do you expect to be active? An early look at the Playoff picture has several surprises.  Matt and Billy pick their favorite games in NFL Week 9.   Chiefs-Bills is still an exciting matchup and Matt still sides with Buffalo and wants more Taylor Swift.  We wrap up with Survivor Picks and TD Parlay plays!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and IHeart podcast. It's week nine of NFL Cover Zero coming to you one day late. So I'm sorry for all of you all that are used to seeing this on your feet on Wednesdays. You had to wait one more day. But you know what? Sometimes life gets in the way.

But we are excited to be here previewing everything you need to know. about the NFL season where it's midweek Thursday. Tonight there's a football game. Drew, good to see you. It's rainy and junkie here in Kentucky, but getting ready for another big week. Yeah, rainy and junkie means a good reason to not do anything but stay inside and watch more football. So bring on the rain. I got a nice fresh pot of chili ready for the weekend.

I'm ready to watch some of the big games we have coming up. I unfortunately, as I talked about Sunday, I had a back injury this weekend. So I watched the most football I've ever watched probably while I was also in pain. It was a bad weekend to pick that. But, you know, backs aren't fun. And it's getting better now. I'm ready. I saw Tracy McGrady, the basketball player.

He was talking about how before every season he would get an epidural. Is that the word? I believe so. An epidural every season so that he could play due to his back. I thought that was something to only pregnant women get. So I was thinking, why not get an epidural for these podcasts so that I could get through the whole year without having a back injury. Yeah, we sent Billy all over town.

I couldn't come up and won't get today's show. You know, I've dealt with the back stuff before, too. I don't have it now. I'm in a good place. But when it's at its worst, I would rather have two broken arms than a bad back because it just completely takes you out of commission. It gets to where you can't even move. And I know you were dealing with that the last few days.

Yes. By the way, what is an epidural? It's like a thing that they shoot. But where do they shoot it? I don't know. Like the thigh. I'm always amazed at the words we use. Spinal cord.

Like sports make you. That's it. Oh, Billy gave me a yes. But what does it do? Injection near your spinal cord. And what does it do? It's a way to give you anesthesia for surgery or labor pain. But then it makes it to where I feel am.

Yeah, I believe so. Okay, sounds like you really know. But that was, it's nice when you follow sports. You think you're a doc, like the ACL ligament, interior cruciate ligament or what is it, medial collateral limbic ligament? I don't know any other ligaments in the body except those two. I know my injury reports. I know, but I know what an ACL is.

And I also know, oh, that hurt is Achilles. That's bad. Yeah, we don't want that. I remember there was an episode of. of this earlier this season, where some doctor used some big term, and we tried to figure out what it was on the air, and then heard from some actual doctors who basically

told us we sounded like idiots. Lumbar, the... Yeah, lumbar support. L4, L5. L4, L7. We were struggling through that a little bit. Yeah, but the thing is, I feel like now that I'm a sports fan,

I know that I go to Dr. Andrews for the ACLs, right, in Birmingham. If you do not go to Dr. Andrews, Andrews, you're settling for... Rank the most famous doctors. Obviously, Phil is first. Dre. Dre is high up there.

Oh, Pepper. But Andrews is up there with all of them. Let me say pepper is underrated. Okay, Seuss, Javago, for you literary types. Yeah. And then you're right. But in terms of actual humans, Andrews, I don't know how Birmingham became the place everybody goes to fix their knees.

I mean, there's nothing else on earth you'd go. I need this fixed, Birmingham. But your knees and your ligaments, that's where you go. And I feel like going to see Dr. James Andrews is a social status. Like most people don't name drop their doctor before they're getting surgery. You just say, I'm going to get surgery. But if you're going to Dr. James Andrews. No, Dr. James Andrews.

You've got to let people know where you're headed. Feels like to been alive for a long time, too. So shout out to Dr. James Andrews. I don't know if he wants to give me an epidural. But I don't know if that's his specialty. But if he does, we'd be glad to do it. So we just got our first set of podcast numbers for cover zero. So, like, we got to see a month's worth of podcast views.

And it's amazing how many of you are listening and how many of you are listening from all over different parts of the country. I mean, we were looking at the markets. Obviously, the top two markets tend to be here in Kentucky where Drew and I are, but they're listening, people listening from all over. One of the higher markets is Cleveland. I'm going to think Spider and First Lady for that from the first episode. Oh, definitely.

I would say they were a big reason for a bump with the dog pound. But I do want to see, we didn't have a lot on the Northeast. I feel like the Northeast has not embraced us yet. And so we have to figure out what can we do to get the New York, Boston, Philly. How do we get those people involved? What is it we're going to do? I don't know because we're working, even though we're southern, you and I, big New York City people. Love New York City.

I'm proudly in the South, but I can blend in up there too if I need to. So I feel like we should have friends there already. Yes. If you're out there and you're just trying to figure us out, we can blend in in the Northeast. I can blend in. I'll go through a table if I need to. That's exactly, hey, you know, I can do the. Watch where you're going here.

Yeah. I'm walking here. So see, this should work. This should be what they want. Or they just turned it off. Now, we do have an announcement to make, though. In two weeks, we are going to be going to Buffalo. That's right.

We're going to be going to Buffalo. We're going to go to our first Bill's game. It is Bill's and Colts. Is that right? No, Bill's Box. Yeah, Bill's Box. Close enough. Very similar.

The Bills and the Tampa Bay are going to play in Buffalo. We're going to be going. We want to have the whole Bill's experience. I'm going to be doing my ESPN show from there. We're going to be doing the cover Zero podcast. So here's the first thing. We need a bar in Buffalo that is close to the stadium that's going to be like our home base. So we need to know who to contact.

Who do we contact to figure out where we should go in Buffalo to do the whole Bill's thing? So I have a text machine. Here's the number. It is 772-744. 5254. Those of you listening, 772, 774, 5254. And if you're in Buffalo or you have Buffalo connections, where should we go to the show? Are you excited to go to your first Buffalo Bills home game? Absolutely. I mean, just a couple weeks ago, we ranked bucket list NFL trips. I believe that was number one. Also, you know me pretty well. I like to tellgate. I feel like me

and the Mafia might get along a little bit. I'll have to remember that we're doing a podcast later that night so I don't join the mafia too much and leave you and Billy here to talk to each other. I'll have to keep myself on a pitch count. But I'm excited just to get up there and experience what is the best fan base in the NFL. Now, we're going to drive, which is what most people like to do when they go to Buffalo. They like, they like to drive. Now, you're probably sitting there going, okay, Matt, that sounds fun. Driving to Buffalo sounds like it would be the best thing in the world.

But you're then thinking, how do we get there? Can I give you a few of the cities we're going to go through on our trip to Buffalo? Please. We are going to go through Columbus. Okay. That's going to be good. Then we're going to go up and we're going to go right through Akron. Hey, LeBron.

What's up? Then Cleveland, you probably thought, when am I going to go to Erie, Pennsylvania? The answer is now. And then all the way up I-90 to Buffalo right past Lackawanna and Dunkirk. Are you excited about this? Of course. Most excited about Cleveland, since we just saw that we're somewhat known. in Cleveland. Maybe our newlywed couple.

We could stop by and say hi. We should go say hi to them. That would be good. But no, I love the road trips. Our long-time listeners know this is something we do a lot. Fall in Kentucky basketball. And now we get to do another one, but it's with the NFL to go see the bills play football. So I could not be more excited. And of course, it's Billy's Bucks. So, you know, there's the Billy aspect, too. I'm happy for him. Billy, excited to see the Bucks in person. I am. I'm just a little worried that Bill's Mafia might throw me through a table or

like put ketchup and mustard on me. They do a lot of crazy things. Well, we're going to ask you to do. We're going to ask them to do that. We're requesting it. But so for people in Buffalo, we will be heading your way. This will be the first time I have been to Buffalo. I've been once and we just drove through on the way to Niagara Falls.

We'll also be not only, we're also going to be very close to Canada. You know, Hamilton, Ontario is just right across the way. Obviously, Mario doesn't have a passport, so we'll have to leave him in Buffalo. but you and I could go to Canada for a little while. We'll pick him back up on the way through. You know, our boss, Roger, he's big on growing the game internationally. I think if Cover Zero just stepped across the border. Is that what you?

Wait a minute. Are you allowed to call him Roger? I meant Mr. Goodell. That slipped. I don't know that you've met it. That slipped to Mr. Goodell. I apologize. I look forward to meeting you.

But, you know, this is a good way for Cover Zero to go international, even if we just go have lunch across the border. So, Buffalo, we're going to see you here soon. And we look forward to it. We'll talk more about that in the coming week. So here it is the day before Halloween. And we have some news items I want to start with. But let's start for a second with Halloween themed.

There are two Halloween stories I think are very important. One is Drake May. Okay. You know, I've expressed my feelings about sort of rooting against Drake May. I'm about to stop because I'm starting to get people saying that they think it's unbecoming, how much I dislike Drake May when I can point to no reason for doing it. You don't want to just be a hater to hate. Yes.

That's unbecoming. But I want to give him some credit for something. So I'm actually going to say, this makes me pro-Dragmey. On TikTok, you know, people are always doing things. Constantly. 30 seconds at a time. Nobody's ever just on TikTok going like, I'm good. That's enough.

Like, everybody's got an opinion or they want to do a dance or they're putting the voice to things. Well, there's a woman on TikTok, and she was very attractive. think her thing is like, hey, I'm attractive and watch this. I'm going to dance. Now watch this trick. Watch this drive. She just comes on and like, look, here we go, right? Just make sure you watch for a minute.

So I get my money. That's right. So she does this thing. She comes on there and she says, I want to dress up for Halloween. And whatever the top comment is, that's what I'm going to dress up for Halloween. Which I think is just asking for people to just write. like bad things. No one's going to put an actual Halloween costume as their vote.

Except one person. Drake May. Drake May goes in her replies and writes Drake May. What do you want me to be around? He, official Drake May, writes Drake May. Well, I think Patriots fans get excited about it. Next thing you know, it has 500,000 likes on her thing for her to dress as Drake May. so she has to dress as Drake May.

She has promised I've been following this saga somehow that she will be dressed as Drake May, I believe tomorrow, because tomorrow's Halloween. Do you like, and then apparently he's been doing it in other ones. He's just going around to people when they say, what should I be for Halloween and saying Drake May? I think I kind of love that, Drew, this idea of a man of the people, just telling people to dress as Drake May. He's just going around like signing Instagrams or TikTok's guest book here. or just writing his name on people's videos and pictures. I mean, there's a common denominator to his,

which I think most of them are fairly attractive women. Like he didn't say, he didn't tell Billy to dress his Drake May. But still, just the idea of people are trying to guess, just keep saying yourself over and over. Yeah, just that simple interaction for him takes him one second, just starts a huge trend. As you mentioned, Patriots fans latch on.

And now this woman who probably was going to dress to something completely different, I doubt Drake May was high on her list. Now she's got to go for the best. Now she has to be Drake May. Now, you were saying that he actually dressed up for the game last week. Is that right? I saw a TikTok video.

They had a Halloween party at Gillette Stadium. And Drake May showed up dressed up as a Pokemon. Charzard. What's that? It's a creature, fake creature, Pokemon. You've ever heard of that? Are you into Pokemon? Not really.

Okay. You pronounced that very well for somebody that I wouldn't think it's called Chari Mar? Charzard. And he showed up as the Pokemon. What's the Charzard? What does he do? He flies in the air and spits fire. Okay, so clearly you know Pokemon.

Like, that's not just something you would guess. Do you want to admit that you do know Pokemon? I mean, as a kid, but, I mean, it's been a while. But I did enjoy Drake May dressing up as Charzard. I didn't get to see that. I think he should have dressed up as that girl. As the one who had posted the original video, I think it's only fair. I do enjoy getting the Halloween costumes from NFL players.

They all seem to really get into it. The Lions had a big Halloween party. Okay, so let's talk about that one. Or actually, wait a bit. Is that Jemir Gibbs? Yeah, he has my costume of the year. Costume of the year. I didn't know that was going to be on your list.

Costume of the year. Jamir Gibbs of the Lions dressed up as Jeff Hardy. First of all, great reference. I mean, honestly, I know he still wrestles, but Jeff Hardy has it really been in the national consciousness in 25 years. Been a long time. Been a long time. Jamir Gibbs was what, five? To have been a child.

And he and his girlfriend dress up as Jeff Hardy. and she dresses up as Lita. Yeah. Great costume. I had no idea you had even seen this. I was going to bring it up because there's been several. The whole Lions team did well. I think Jared Gough was maybe some kind of chef.

They all did great. Good job, Lions. But Jemir Gibbs was just a whole other level from having Lita. You know, he's already got kind of a long hair so he could kind of pull it over his face like the Hardee's do. He's doing the finger guns. By far, biggest costume winner that I've seen. Yeah, I, the best, I wish I, I was better at Halloween costumes because I think it's a great idea.

The best set of Halloween costumes I've seen, and I really want to recommend this to people, there's an old folks home in Minnesota. Okay. What are you laughing? I just don't know where this is going. There's an old folks home in Minnesota, and they had all of the people in the old folks home dress as a Halloween costume, and they are great because they're all plays on words. So, for instance, this old man stands up.

He has on a belt, and around his belt, are just watches. He has like 50 watches around his waist. And they say, what's your costume, Mr. blah, blah, blah.

And he goes, a waste of time. I like that. I'm all about the puns. And then they had like a woman who was probably in her 80s and she had two empty bottles of wine taped to her chest.

And they said, what are you, Agnes? and she's like a wine rack. Okay. It's two for two. All of these are wonderful. There's something about it being a senior citizen place.

You can't, like, Billy can't go around as a wine rack. Or Drake, man, really. But these old people, I actually think it works really. I love it. And big on the wordplay. So if you're working that into your costume and you're elderly making some jokes like that, I'm all in. I'm actually taking away my word from Gibbs and giving it to that nursing center.

So I would encourage you to look up the old folks nursing home. Mario, why don't you see if you can find it on your phone, the name of it? Because I want to give them a shout out. They have like 50 of these videos in each one of them is really fun. One more before we go on. Miles Garrett is like the NFL's king of Halloween. I don't know what he has up his sleeve this year, but every year he goes way over the top.

Like freaks people out walking into the stadium. He's so good at it. But it'll be over. when he gets to Halloween this Sunday. I get to you do it last week. I don't know. It is thrown off that. I haven't seen one of him.

Maybe they're just having their party like the Lions did. Yeah, maybe so. All right, so let's go through some news. You mentioned the Lions. Aidan Hutchinson signed, what was it, $140 million extension. He'll become the second highest paid defensive lineman in the NFL. Most of us, you know, obviously he's a great player. We all watched his rookie year on Hard Knocks.

His family was a big part of that. Lions makes perfect sense to invest. Do you enjoy watching Aiden Hutchinson play? I do, but was part of this a media contract for his family in the crowd, for all these crowd shots we get? Is that going part of the bill? Some of the TV rights? He may lead the NFL in family shots.

But as we learned on Hard Knocks, it is a cool story, him getting to stay back for the hometown team, and now it gets even sweeter for him with nearly $200 million to his name coming. Is there a, he's got to be the biggest player that's like, from the hometown of where they are, right? Yeah, the Bengals have had a few Ohio guys that have been big, but right now, Hutchinson, I mean, you see they post the pictures of him and dressed up as a little lion when he's a little kid. His whole family loves the lions.

Do you find that sweet when that happens? And there's something about it being Detroit. Like if it was a kid in Boston wearing his Patriots shirt when he's little, okay, sure, everybody liked the Patriots then. But he went through the Lions down years and then got to the Lions and is why they're good. So yes, I enjoy Hutchinson's story. $141 million guaranteed. It's the most guaranteed for a non-quarterback of all time.

Yeah, I would love to have some of that money if he wants to share. Carson Wince is now out for the rest of the year. He's going to have season-in-ending surgery to repair his left shoulders. A shoulder, excuse me, doesn't have two of them over there. It was broken into Thursday night. He might have two left shoulders after that game. He may. And he went to the media today and took up for his friend.

franchise saying no one forced him to play and he doesn't want any, any arguments to be contrary. Now personally, I'd never heard anyone making the arguments that they were forcing him to play. So there's a little bit of the methinks thou doth protest too much, Carson. But what do you make of that? It did look like he didn't need to be in the game last week. I don't know whose fault that was.

Another very thin of Al McCarthy, they named another guy with a clipboard in his hand that I'd never heard of him. Could have been someone in a Halloween costume for all I knew. So it was hard to watch Carson Wentz, but I like that he comes out and I was out there trying to gut it out. It wasn't like they're forcing me, making me do it. But anyone watching that game knows he didn't need to be in because it showed his face.

It looked like he was in tears out there trying to take snaps. It was weird because the announcers and the camera crew spent a long time on him. If you're Carson Wentz, I understand why you're trying to make it happen because you've got this rookie behind you. he comes back. I mean, in some ways in that final game, you might be playing for a contract next year, right? For maybe even another team. So I get it.

But it did look like he was in a lot of pain. Yeah. And he's played a lot of football. He's getting old. He might have some of the back problems you're going through right now. So it probably may hurt even more. Every time there's somebody like in pain, you don't have to say that it's me. I'm just, you know, I see you going through it.

You don't need me to be the monument of the face of old. But I'm trying to compare you to, to, to. a current NFL play because you're going through the same thing. We're very similar guys. Yeah. I mean, just as he toughed out that Thursday night game, you're toughing out cover zero right now. I'm looking at you. Just as I looked in Wince's eyes last Thursday, I'm looking to years. And no one's making you do this. Let's make that clear. Roger is.

Mr. Goodell. I got a call from Roger. He was like, are you getting up or not? He's going to be so proud when we go into Canada. He is. And we leave Mario at the border because he doesn't have a pass. We won't get video in Canada because Mario is 2020. You're going to need a passport. It expired. I don't have on either, Mario. Oh, wait a minute.

You can't go either. Not to Canada. You can get a passport card, which is faster for Canada. So let me just say, well, no, you can't now. Government shut down. That's true. I backtrack that. So here's the thing.

Just know, there's going to be a night out in Hamilton, Ohio, when Drew and I are turning it up a notch. And Matt's seen me in Canada. Well, in London, Ontario, Drew fell in. love. I did. There's a world where I never met you to. I'm raising kids in Ontario right now.

There's a world. He's following the Hamilton Ata Argonauts. On my syrup farm. Just living the good life. A syrup farm? You and you grow syrup? Yep, I'm growing it. You and hubby were about to drive off.

You're like, are you coming? I was like, I don't know, guys. Leave me. Leave me in London, Ontario. Well, you need both of you get your passports. 41-year-old tight-in Mercedes-Lewis is assigned. What was, is it a practice squad deal? Practice squad with the Denver Broncos.

With the Denver Broncos. He will become the oldest, if he plays, the oldest tight-in to play of all time. What do you make of that? 41 years old. Can you imagine being a tight-end? There's a lot of miles on that Mercedes that's coming in. I'm telling you, this happened with Graham just a week or two. ago. People saw that flacco

Aaron Rogers game and they all thought, honey, where's my cleats? Get my cleats out of the garage and going back to work and we're starting to see some of the older guys come back to give it another shot. Do you like this trend of geriatric players joining the NFL? I mean, do you think we're going to be, where's this going?

We're going to have a running back who's 61. I'm here for it. Just set it up. I mean, we have a golden bachelor on ABC now. The old people are back. They're winning Halloween costume contests. They're don't taking over the NFL again. The stock is up on people that are pushing the high numbers.

I don't watch the Golden Bachelor. Is it good? I caught a few episodes of the first season and immediately turned it off. I did see there was an argument this year that one woman there, the other women were very unhappy that she wasn't there for the right reason. I always love that phrase in The Bachelor. What is the right reason? It can't be defined love.

No one ever does. No, they're all there. No one ever gets married. They're there for Instagram followers and they just need to say. Like I don't watch Love is Blind, but I heard that this year when the couples matched up, they all just looked at each other and ran away. Sounds like good TV. They all just looked at each other and we're like, no, you're idiotous. So I don't know what that's do with Mercedes-Lewis.

All people are back is what we're saying. And Mercedes-Lewis is on the list. It also gives us a chance, though, to talk about the stat that we like the most. Which is there, Mercedes-Lewis could become the third player of all time to get a reception in the NFL. over 40. The other two are Jerry Rice and Tom Brady. That's kind of cool, isn't it? It's very cool.

I'd forgotten that stat, actually. You got me thinking, Mercedes-Louis, he's almost old enough for the Titans try to sign him and try to give him another year because we are the retirement home, and I'm surprised he's not coming back. Do you remember when Tom Brady caught the pass?

Billy, I mean, I guess it was with Tampa Bay. Do you remember the scenario? It had to be a Philly special. type of play. I just, not the one comes to mind, no. You've got to be a bold offensive coordinator to tell Tom Brady's going to

run downfield. Yeah. Did he tell him, did he cross the middle? I'm like a little. No. They're putting them out there. Well,

good luck to Mercedes-Lewis, and I hope he makes it. Now, tonight, by the time you listen, this game may even be over, Lamar, taking the field for the first time, two and six versus two and six. by the time you listen to us, we may know the result of this game,

but are you excited to have Lamar back on the field? Yes. The Ravens hurt me to watch. I've never liked him. Took Henry. They've knocked Titans out of the playoffs before. But it's been very disappointing just as a fan of the NFL to not have the Ravens be good this season, especially after that week one game.

That was such a thriller. I thought we were on a crash course with the Ravens, Bills, and Chiefs, doing what they normally do, fighting for the AFC spot. And they've been so disappointing. So I hope Lamar gets them back on track. Their schedule sets up where they can get back in the mix. And I just, as a fan of the NFL, they need to be in the conversation. And he's just such a different, he's just such a different athlete than everyone else in terms of,

there are very few people in sports that you say, well, there's no one like him. And I'm not sure there's ever going to be anyone like him again. I mean, in basketball, we're seeing this a little bit with Wimby right now, that we're seeing this like thing. that we may never see a thing like that again. Now, whether it ends up being an all-time grade or whatever, we have to wait and see, but I kind of don't think there's ever going to be another person like Lamar. I mean, this new generation of mobile quarterbacks,

they tend to be built now like Josh Allen or Drake May or even Les Mers and Caleb Williams. I don't think you're ever going to see an athlete like Lamar who can also play quarterback like that. And a lot of it, you know, is design run now and it's all part of the plan. Lamar will just tuck it and embarrass guys. I think back to some of his college highlights, hurtling people. He hadn't done the hurtling as much in the NFL.

But he's still, when he gets in space, he can just do things that no one else can. And the criticism, of course, years ago, he shut them up, but saying he couldn't pass. No, he can pass too. That's why he's one of one. The only analogy to him in the history of the league is Michael Vig. and he's a better athlete than Michael Vick. I mean, just he's a lot better of an athlete. So I want to see him because I don't think there are that many years left of him being able to play like that.

And maybe he develops into something else. Michael Vick did a little bit towards the end. But the way he's playing right now, Drew, I only think we have another couple years of it. So I want to make sure we get every game we can. Yeah, and I hope he's back back before the hamstring. He was having a good year, something like 12 TDs, one interception. That huge first game. You get an opponent that last week got their win,

but this is still one that you should handle. If you don't win this one, that's a problem. And it's also for Lamar's comeback. He's kind of a Miami guy. I don't know if he's Miami-specific, but he's from South Florida, a little bit of a homecoming for him. So there'll be a lot of eyes on this game.

I'm looking forward to watching it. Well, you also have a sense of, even though they're 2 and 6, and that record is bad, they're not as far away from potentially having a shot in that division as you would think. I mean, you see here and look at it,

they're, excuse me, two and five. They're two games back of Pittsburgh, right? I mean, that's not that many. And they still have to play them, what, twice? Yes, they still play them twice. And then the Steelers have the Colts and the chargers coming over the next few weeks. They still have to play the bills.

So if they can not drop any more games, the Ravens still have a shot to win this division, even at two and five. They do, and I saw some updated odds today. they're like 46% to win the division. They're the favorite? Well, Steelers, like Steelers were 47, they were 46, and the other two split whatever's left there.

Interesting. And then the same for making the playoffs. So we know if they can just get in, as long as they're healthy, you know they've been disappointing the last month. They'll be a big threat. Now, you were telling me, Billy, Michael Carter the 2nd. What is this story about him and the Jets? Yeah, so there was a trade recently.

The Eagles are trading for the Jets cornerback. Michael Carter to second. Michael Carter to second? The second. Okay. It wants a lot of baseball, haven't you? Gladdy to second. So New York will get John Michie the third in a 2027, sixth round pick, while Philly will

get Carter in a 2027th round pick. But I thought it was interesting. So they traded the second for the third. Yes. All right. That's correct. And a sixth and a seventh. Sixth of the seventh.

But this is how badly Michael Carter the second wanted to join. Eagles. Sources say that he agreed to delete the $5 million guarantee for injury in his 2026 contract to complete the trade to the Eagles. So he had a provision in his contract that said, if I get injured, you'll still give me $5 million. Correct. And he so wanted out of New York that he just dropped that.

He gave it up. $5 million for the trade to go through. Wow. I mean, that, you know, the chances of him getting hurt. That's real. $5 million to get off a team. That's kind of an amazing thing for a guy to do, isn't it? Yeah.

And, you know, if I'm in his shoes, probably not going to do it. But at the same time, if there's a situation you would do it, you're leaving the Jets for the reigning Super Bowl champ who could be in there again. Have you ever had a job that you would have given up money to get away from? I mean, $5 million is a different kind of money. But let's say, if you're at a job you were wedded to, that you're like, I've got to get out of here. No, my job's mostly always been. He can't say it because it's mostly been with me. Well, but I mean, obviously I have fun.

I don't think you can say that right now. I don't want to say it. Yeah, really, my other jobs are all part-time jobs. If I wanted to leave, I just left. Well, that's what's interesting about sports is you can get, I mean, virtually every job in society, you can leave. but in sports these guys if they want to pursue their craft they get picked by a team and then they have to be there right they have to they can't get out of it there there are very few parts of life i can't think of another part of life where that would be the case and i like his fans it's just normal we're like all that guy's oh he's gone from Denver to buffalo who cares but then it's like not to get deep but you got kids in school maybe your whole family's move there it's like what other world where they're like you have to pick up your family and move them right now and you have to be there by Thursday.

You might have to be in a different country. I mean, not with the NFL, but in other sports. You know, I think about like Ace Bailey who went to like Rutgers. I think he grew up in New York. They're like,

all right, you have to go to Salt Lake City, Utah, and you have to do it right now. The plane is right there. And by the way, you're going to live there for the next seven years. And you're going to like it.

And then he goes, wait a minute, I don't know if I want to do that. And everybody goes, you're so selfish. How could you not want to be in Utah? What a great opportunity to play on the worst team in the league in the worst city in the country. No offense, Utah. It is weird. Sports are the only thing that does that. And you have no choice.

And you have no choice. Or you can go to China. Those are your two choices. What do you want, Ace? I don't care about your two-year-olds community that he's built and all the roots your family's planted. You get to Denver right now. Oh, you've been in New York for 200 years. Eat it.

Fans were like, yeah, just they got to go. Provo is nice this time of year, Ace. So, I mean, I think this was a chance for Michael Carter the second to take some ownership. And he says, I'm willing to give up the five million to get out of it. When I heard this happen, you know, I thought that's crazy, but the team's involved makes sense. If you're leaving, if this is a lateral move and how competitive the team is, I don't think you can do it.

But for a chance to get a ring, that can be invaluable. Dallas Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones in the news, he did a press conference. By the way, that sentence is the start of about 30% of all NFL news. Dallas Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones does a press conference. Insert next. Or local Dallas interview. He does those two on the radio. I mean, you get a lot of NFL news just about to start of that sentence.

He was asked about he hasn't been around the facility, I guess, in a little bit. And he was asked about it and he said, I have a $100 billion oil project. I don't have time to worry about the Cowboys defense. What do you think about that sentence? For a guy that's been so hands-on forever and literally had a pretty big news story involved, his defense before the season. It is interesting to me that suddenly doesn't have time when things are looking so good. Because normally Jerry is hands on everything.

His fingerprints are on everything. Counterpoint. $100 billion oil projects. That's big. That's big oil project. And he's on the new landman. Jerry's got a little came down. Is that good?

I like season one. I haven't cut. I don't know if season two started yet, but I enjoyed it. I heard it makes oil seem glamorous. It's best it can. It is, I mean, what you have in your mind of Texas oil tycoons, that's pretty much what it is. They wearing big hats? Big hats.

Okay. Walking around, you know, got their big boots on and their buckles, just talking about billions. And then they just, like, put things in the ground. Yeah, a whole drill here, see what happens. Laying's dry. They say that a lot. Well, in the Netflix Cowboys documentaries, you watched that? It's a big part about how Jerry took a gamble on a little spot.

Wasn't sure if there was going to be some oil, and then boom. that's when he struck it but when he made the deal he took a big chance and now he's got they not have ways they not have ways to just see if there's oil under it like what's the gamble i feel like there's got to be something that can look underground and say whether there's oil now probably but in the time they were playing up and maybe it was just some theatrics and telling jerry's story just had a shovel out there and he was like this feels like the right place he did yeah he did it bare-handed and that's how we got the dallas cowboys you know i've been very of Jerry over the years for sort of meddling.

I don't understand why people would think he's the one, like, do they think the Cowboys are not able to stop people because Jerry's not there? This is actually what a lot of his critics have wanted. They've always been like, Jerry, go find a hobby. You don't have to do everything. He literally has found something else. Yeah. And now he's getting criticism. Yeah, there is a sense

in which he's kind of damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. You're either there too much or now you're there too little. I think they just can't quit Jerry either way, right? If I was Jerry, I would say, would you look at DAC right now when you all told me not to re-sign him years ago. Would you look at George Pickens? Just don't look at my defense. Yeah. Well, speaking of resigning, you got an email from the Tennessee Titans.

Oh, yes. Are you being kicked out of your fandom? Is that correct? I think they broke up with me. Let me pull up word for words, so I don't get this wrong. So I've been. Our team's allowed to break up with you as fans? I got dumped.

Here it is. On October 26, this was 14. days ago just to set it up like many fans i joined my team's list serve you know there's contests i'll play the little trivia game for a free quarter zip all the promos you know you know how you get any email blitz i didn't know i'm supposed to interact with them so i get an email uh four days ago and the uh the subject line says we're going to miss you from the tennessee titans and it says we've reached out a few times we haven't heard back so we're calling the hell mary this will be our last email if you miss us as much as we'll miss you, you can always come back anytime. But I'm thinking,

I'm still here. I still love you and I'm getting dumped. So the Titans are saying, if you don't talk to our email account, then we're not to stop talking to you. And it's got this like flashy Hail Mary that scrolls by. It's their Hail Mary attempt to get me to. Wow. So do I reply? So what do they what do they get for breaking up with you? I'm not sure. And I thought I was, what were you supposed like what do they want you to do? right now. Just ask them how they're going. Hey, you up?

Titans, I reply like, hey, I'm here. Like, I don't want to break up. Let's work this out. Is this a break? Is there someone else? Who else you emailing over there? Let's work this out. We can come to a common ground.

But I got to admit, getting an email from my favorite team and the subject just says we're going to miss you, I was like, what happened? Well, maybe it's like a reverse psychology, because now maybe you reply. hoping you don't break up. So have you replied? No, I should, though. I gave, it's four days a good wait, waiting period. We're obviously in a point of turmoil in our relationship.

You want to keep the Titans waiting. You don't want to come off as eager. No. Yeah. Because they're in the low spot right now. Like, they need to be recruiting me, not pushing me away. You think they're asking, like, they're sort of, you know, asking for affirmation. I think.

It's okay. I still love you. even though your coach was terrible. They also called me about season tickets the day they fired Mike Vrable, and I was like, not now. Like, this is not the day to be calling me about season. So we're still going through things. I'll reply to this, but it felt weird getting dumped by an NFL team.

Will you just reply and just say miss you? I miss us. I'm going to say I miss us. Oh, I miss us. Do that. And then let me know what the response is. Well, this must be a trend. Did you guys see what happened in Cincinnati with the season ticket holder?

No, I did not. So a season ticket holder went to Kansas. their season tickets after the loss to the Jets. And reportedly the person on the phone said, do you want cheap tickets or do you want us to pay for Jamar Chase and T. Higgins? Oh, wow. So you're saying the person selling your tickets got a little sass. This is according to a Reddit post that somebody made when they went to cancel their season tickets,

but reported by Bleacher Report. Reported that there was a Reddit post or reported that it happened. Reported that there was a Reddit post that people are sharing. I didn't need Bleacher Report to tell me that. I mean, if it was on Reddit. Okay. Well, I don't know if I believe this, but I have to say,

I don't mind the Bengals being sassy. Like, you don't get it both ways. Do you want T. Higgins and Jamar Chase? Or do you want $2 nachos at the game? You can't have it both ways. I kind of kind of side with the ticket person. I mean, PR, we could work on that. Maybe the delivering the approach.

But they have a point. It's kind of with Jerry. People are like, we got to pay Higgins. We got to pay Chase. We got to pay Burrow. okay, we're paying them. I need a little help from you all. But also, maybe not the week to do it

after they just blew that game at home to the Jets that had not won a game yet. Maybe you spend a week being a little less sassy. Yeah, you could show some sympathy. Like you stayed out all night, drank with your friends, passed out, didn't come home to in the morning. Maybe that's not the time you start demanding that your wife...

Make you lunch. Yeah, you got to pick and choose your time. Yeah, I know your spots. Ticket office, I think should have read the room a little bit better here coming off that loss. But it is, you don't hear a sassy move like that coming from the, from the, you know, I'm going to the Bengals Bears game this weekend. Oh, yeah. I am, like, shocked how expensive those tickets are for Bengals Bears. You wouldn't think so, right?

I mean, it's not a rivalry. Neither team is particularly great, but they are expensive. And it's not like an away team coming in this far away. You think local Bears fans probably can. get to Chicago. You can just go to Chicago, right? Yeah. But, like, very, very expensive tickets to go see the Bears of Ingalls.

But I think it'll be fun. You ready for some Caleb Williams? I'm ready for some drunk Bengals fans. I mean, for people who don't know, the drunkest fan base on Earth or the Cincinnati Bengals. Like, people say the Bill's fans are crazier, and I'll believe that. But no one is drunker and more belligerent than the Bengals fans. I mean, the Bengals fans fight each other.

for the chance to fight other people. It's like a warm-up event. Wouldn't there a video earlier this year, maybe the last season of a big brawl and like everyone had on a Joe Burrow jersey? It was like Joe Burrow, beating up Joe Burrow, beating up Joe Burrow. He was just Bengals fans. It is.

There's a little bit like escape from New York when you go to the Bengals game. I mean, now, I think it makes it fun. I think it makes it a hard environment to play in, but I don't think the Bengals get enough credit for how drunk their fan base is. And a lot of times at one o'clock. They play at one o'clock a lot.

They'll get up very early. I mean, I hosted my Matt and Meyer and ESPN show once from a bar in Cincinnati before the game. And at 10.30 in the morning, I watched the manager have to keep two people from making out on the floor at 10.30 on a Sunday morning. They weren't even drinking. Can you imagine the excitement you have to be rolling around the floor kissing a person at 10. 30 in the morning in public on a Sunday. I was there and I remember a lot of people trying to get our young innocent Mario to drink

fireball at 10 in the morning too. The Vingles fans are getting after it. The Vingles fans do get after it. All right, the trade deadline is November 4th. Lots, you know, the NFL trade deadline, a little bit different than baseball and the NBA. You don't necessarily see as much

action, anything you're expecting to see this week. A couple of players are watching. It looks like they've come out and said they're not going to move much. But when we said this the other day, I want to see Miles Garrett play for a good football team. That's not going to happen this year.

That's not going to happen. Max Crosby seems like somebody that could end up somewhere else. Chris Olavay and New Orleans is having a huge year for a crappy team. That's someone that could move, but they've also said probably not going to deal him. A team like Dallas, I think, really needs to go out and find some defensive help

because they're wasting such a good offense or chargers still need help on that offensive line. if there's anything out there they can get. Usually at this time, you might see a team that thinks they can salvage a playoff run, get a quarterback, but I think that was the Bengals and they already did flaco, so I don't think there's going to be anybody else. Breeze Hall's names popped up alive in New York. I think, I think Breeze Hall and Max Crosby are the two to watch for.

For a variety of reasons, I think both of them would make sense to go. Breese Hall would be one. You know, if you're a team that just is not able to run the ball, he's being wasted with the Jets, so that would make some sense. And he's been fun on a crappy team. Even through the touchdown pass and that comeback last week, it's a guy that's having a great year, and it's just been completely wasted on now what's a one-win team.

Have you been enjoying how much the Jets have been celebrating their win? I mean, this has got to be one of the more jovial wins in a long time. And I don't know about you, but it seems like all, most people know like one Jets fan in their life, and they've just always been miserable. Mine's our friend Robert who listens to KSR. He just lives and dies with the Jets. Mine's my friend Molly. He's constantly upset.

You can't hope he'll be happy for a Jets fan getting that win last week. Yeah. Now, the playoff picture right now, in the AFC, Indianapolis is 7 and 1. Right now they would be the 1 seed. The 2 seed would now be the Patriots and the Broncos, the 3 seed. Is that not amazing that the 1 seed could be the Colts, two Patriots, three Broncos,

when you could have made a strong argument, none of those three would have even been in the playoffs at the beginning of the year. It's nuts to not just immediately go Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo. Like, that's felt like what we were heading to when the season started. I knew the Broncos would take a step forward this year. I didn't expect them to be in the mix like they are. Same with the Patriots.

So, yeah, that's definitely been surprising. I mean, right now there's actually a gap in the playoffs. Like, the top seven in the AFC, I mean, they're not set. But they're getting to be set. It's looking like New England, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Denver, and the Chargers. Those seem to be the seven unless, I don't know. I mean, there's the Chiefs.

I'm excuse me, charges in the Chiefs. So I'm not sure who it is that's going to take one of those spots. I saw the Colts today. It was one of those updated playoff pictures. The Colts have a 25% chance to make the Super Bowl. even I have a hard time believing that's going to be a big in Super Bowl. But just, just, just, just, just seeing that. Billy, write down, no chance of it making it.

No chance. Zero percent? Zero percent. Okay. John and Taylor just keeps getting three touchdowns. There's zero percent chance. There are, I like the Colts. They're a great story, but there are four teams in the AFC better, at least.

But they just keep winning? I know, and that's nice. But I agree that I, you know, you know, I mean, Kansas City's. coming. Did you watch the game Monday night? That was a complete denomination. That should have been 42 to 7. I just mean the fact that we're even saying Indianapolis Colts and Super Bowl, within the same paragraph each other with how we thought this season would go is insane. Didn't you get really mad at a call in the Chiefs game? What were you mad about?

Oh, it was just roughing the passer. You have a thing against Mahomes. You don't like him. Is it like anti? You don't like Taylor Swift? No, he's fine. He's fine. It's just. you know, the game. Why did people not like Patrick? What did Patrick Mahomes do to anybody? No.

Why are people, people are too angry at him, and I don't understand why. Well, it's the winning. It's the same reason why Tom Brady wasn't liked. But Tom Brady was handsome. And we should hate people that handsome.

Can't have everything. Patrick Mahomes is chubby, right? Talks like Kerman. He talks like Kerman. To me, he's like the epitome of, Yeah, he's athletic, but he's not that athletic. So I think, shouldn't we embrace his sort of normalcy?

I know his wife, whatever. I know his brother, whatever. But I feel like he's fine. I think most people do. I was just complaining about the riffs and the roughing the pass off. But people act like he gets a better whistle. Do you think that's true? 100%.

Yeah. Okay, so you are complaining. He's the face of the league. I mean, of course. So you are complaining that he gets a better whistle. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't hate the guy. But, yeah, let's call it like it is.

Do you think he gets a better whistle? I think it gets a good whistle. The tush push gets the best whistle. If we're going to talk about bad whistles, it's not the Chiefs. But nobody seems to be mad at Jalen Hertz. No. I know there are a lot of fans that hate the Chiefs and always, you know, the memes where the refs hugging Travis, Kelsey. We all see him.

I don't think it's that extreme. Do you think it'll still be like that when Travis retires at the end of the year? Or do you think when Travis and Taylor exit, a little bit of the Chief's hate will go away? I see him lingering in her lingering around just the Chiefs, Kansas City in general, so I don't think it'll go away. Yeah, I mean, Travis will be on one of the shows or something, so he'll still be around. Yeah, but I do think the Chiefs hates a little over the top. And when Travis is gone, Worthy and Rice and some of these young guys, I mean, they're looking so good.

There's going to be a second generation. Yeah, they're not going anywhere. I mean, this is going to be Mahomes is Brady again. You have Mahomes Generation 1. me, Brady Generation 1 and then Brady Generation 2, Mahomes is going to be the same. I mean, Mahomes is going to have, he had his first run, and now it's Jordan with the Bulls, right?

You got your first group with, you know, what, Ku Klok and them, and then you got the Dennis Rodman part at the end. You're going to have the same thing. And Mahomes will just be the steady force between the two generations of chiefs, but it is a little unfair how they reloaded in the draft, or at least offensively. It is now time to preview the games for this week, which means it is the victory bundle presented by Liberty Mutual.

The Victory Bundle is your way to start your quote at Liberty Mutual.com. So here are the games this week, and you tell me we've got to pick three. Usually I pick one, you pick one. I'm going to let Billy pick one this week. I'll go first and sit here and look at what is available. 49ers are at the Giants. I tend to think people overreact to weeks, and then they screw it up the next week. 49ers are 5 and 3.

Giants are 2 and 6. They're only a 2.5 point favorite, even on the road. I'm going to take the 49ers as part of my victory bundle to get back on track in New York. I think the Giants are headed for a steady decline here, and Brian Daible will be fired relatively soon. So give me the 49ers. What about you? I love that pick, especially with the spread. That's one of my favorite picks.

We don't know how the Giants look without Cam Scataboo. He was scoring touchdown after touchdown before the injury. So I love that one. You just mentioned how people have an unfair hatred for Patrick Mahomes. So I'm going to bring up your unfair hatred for Drake May, who hosts the Atlanta Falcons. This is not unfair. Who have not looked good this year. Yeah.

Bejohn had a bad game a week ago. I'm going to keep riding the Vrable Drake May train straight into another win. Would that be six in a row? I think six in a row. So I love the Patriots at home. Five and a half. I mean, I get that. I think that's actually a pretty good pick.

There's a chance that could end up in a blowout. Falcons have been very disappointing. So we've got the Patriots. I throw the 49ers. And Billy, you give me the final one. Yeah, so Carson Wentz will not be playing. J.J. McCarthy is trash. I love the lion.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's played two games. Yeah, just not it. I think they sold away saying, Donald, way too quick. How do you know he's not it? I've seen enough. He's been in like a hospital bit forever. And I want to say maybe in one of those games he played really, really well.

Not good enough. So that's why we're going to be taking the Lions minus eight and a half to beat the Minnesota Vikings. You're covering all eight and a half of that because is your quote, J.J. McCarthy is trash? Correct. So when he won a national championship in Michigan, doesn't matter. A system player at that point. Strong opinions. All right, so that is.

Confident enough to make your survival. We're talking. We're talking 49ers. 49ers Patriots and Vikings. That is your victory bundle provided by Liberty Mutual. Start your quote at Liberty Mutual.com. All right, so let's look at a couple of these big games this week. You got, let's start with Chiefs Bills.

It's the game of the week. Most years, it's the game of the year. Probably will be the highest rated game of the season on television. Chiefs are a two and a half point favorite at Buffalo. A little bit surprising to me. this is always one of the best ones of the year. Can't wait to watch this game. I mean, this is one of the ones when they announced the schedule

with their big fancy announcements do now. You get eyes wide, circle that one on your schedule. I get why Kansas City is the favorite, but I'm certainly not touching that in Buffalo. What's the reason? I mean, the bill's just won 40 to 9. The game is in Buffalo. I don't, I mean, you say,

and usually when they play in the regular season, and doesn't Buffalo win and then the Chiefs win in the playoffs? Yeah, it's happening in Kansas City a lot too. I guess Buffalo has the two losses that are kind of fresh. And I think we all saw the Chiefs just turned a corner a few weeks ago, especially Adnworthy and Nell Rice said offense. They just look like, especially offensively, that they can do whatever they want to do.

Well, I think the Chiefs are really good, maybe exceptionally good. But I think you, I still, I would bet the bills here. You're telling me I get the bills. at home in a year where I think they leave those two weeks aside are still the better team. Oh, I was just making the case for why Chiefs are the favorite. I would not bet it. If I were betting, yeah, no, I'm saying I kind of get why the Chiefs are at two and a half. But I'm not.

I wouldn't do it. Is this the marquee matchup of the NFL now? Yeah. Like if you were to say, if the NFL were to get to decide, we're going to put one game on display for the entire league to watch, They would pick this one, right? They'd have to. Just, you know, you got Lamar also. But Mahomes, Josh Allen, those two against these.

Really that trio of quarterbacks when they play each other, it's just a heavyweight fight, and the game seemed to always come down to the very end. And this is part of what's great about the NFL is the two biggest stars in the NFL are Mahomes and Allen. You could even make a case that if you throw in Kelsey, the three biggest stars of the NFL are in this game. they are two of the most successful franchises of the last four or five years,

and they're in two secondary markets. I mean, that's what the NFL gets, that really no other league gets, is the ability to have games in Kansas City and Buffalo have this level of, like, specialness. And both have a little bit of bandwagon to them. Chiefs or bills, it's almost like people just love the bills. like even if it's not your team you kind of

But that's a recent thing No that's what I mean That's what I'm saying That's in the last few years No but I mean people They're like a darling to the NFL lately Where the Chiefs have become a big bandwagon team Because they're winning

So when those two teams are on TV They both naturally have people For different reasons Want to tune in You think the Chiefs are the evil team The Bills are not quite the Patriots level But there are plenty of Chiefs fans In the last five years

They ain't from Kansas City That's true They've become that team And then the bills are just kind of People love rooting for the bills mafia. So when you put them both on your TV, it's just one that's going to get a big audience.

Can I make a controversial take? I think there's been too little Taylor Swift on TV. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. No, I mean it. I find myself always wondering if she's at the game. And now they've clearly, like, have a decision. They're not going to show her unless Travis scores a touchdown or something.

So, like, the last game against the commanders, he scored a touchdown. They showed her. And I found myself going, oh, she's here. I feel like Billy I should have known that. I feel like they, why wouldn't you show her? Just so that you little beta male fans get upset because they put her on TV? It was a little much last year. I'm fine with seeing her again.

But don't you think we've gone too far in the other direction? Probably. Yeah, but we know she's locked in watching every second. But I mean, they'll show Spike Lee at every next game, right? Probably multiple times. Why can't we see Taylor Swift? Yeah, why not? Maybe we need some more.

So that may be controversial, but I would say more Taylor Swift on camera. I don't disagree. Like, they show the Jets guy with the fireman had every game. No one's like, get him off my TV. Yeah, they don't. The Titans have this big mascot guy. They show him every game. No one's like, get the big Titan off my TV.

It's just, they got to show somebody. They always show the most popular person in the building. They always show those people in Jacksonville, like eating their hoagies in the pool. Is anybody booing the Hutchinson? family? No. Me. I think we get a little much Hutchinson. Well, they did bring out the big, they have the big curtain for

Taylor now in the back, the big black tarp where you can't even see her walking through. Oh, I didn't know that they do. Yeah, I think that might have been. She had some issues with a stalker at the beginning of the year. Might have been related to that, but it is they're hiding her a little more at the stadium than they were last season. Well, but I mean, she, I get that.

She is a mega celebrity. I just think, I shouldn't have to wonder if she's at the game. I, I, I think they should tell me. Like, I think if she goes to Buffalo, that's kind of an interesting idea. And she better tailgate. Yeah. And unlike Billy, she could probably get into Canada because she has a passport.

Yeah, I can't right now. When are you planning on fixing that? You know, it's probably going to take a while now because once the government reopens, there's probably a backlog of people trying to get a passport. Yeah, didn't plan on the government being shut down for over a month. They've talked about it for about six months. Do you already have one that you need to renew or you don't have one at all? Yeah, so it's expired now.

Okay, that helps you, though. Yeah, because then you don't have to go through quite the... You can even do it at home now. I took my passport photo myself this year. Well, I hear like you can change the laws. Yeah, did it right in my kitchen. I hear you can get it done if you need it done. Like, you just got to drive to the right place.

Detroit. What does that mean? You can get it done if you need it done. Well, I've heard like people... You act like you're in the mafia. You got a congressman you can call. There's like a place you can go and you can get a passport. Yeah.

There's like eight of them in the country. One's in Detroit. I've been to it. Okay. I had to do that once. You drive. It's in Detroit. You have to sit there like all day.

You wait. They call you. Then they tell you to come back. You wait. And then they do it. It's like an eight hour day, though. And they got one in Chicago, one in Detroit, I think one in Atlanta. And you have to make appointments.

And it's not necessarily always easy to get one. Yeah. Well, I'll get on it then or at least make the drive. You're not going to do it. I got a honeymoon coming up. Where is it? We don't know yet. But I'd like to have all options.

It's going to be. in Myrtle Beach if you don't get your passport done. Enjoy Gallenberg. Do I admit it's not like he's got a guy. I just got to go run to this place. Yeah, he just calls. I can get a passport. You need a passport?

I'll get you a passport. Might not be American. But Colts and the Steelers. Aaron Rogers looked human last week. Did. Do you have the Colts coming back and they could go to 8 and 1 if they went in Pittsburgh? Or is this the start of the reality check? Nope.

You're not going to catch me saying a bad. word about the Colts. I have completely shut up about them, shut up about them weeks ago. I think they're for real, and they just keep on winning. And I fully expect Sunday night when we're sitting here doing the show at midnight, we're going to be talking about Jonathan Taylor having a three touchdown game again. Hmm. I mean, the Colts are a three and a half point favorite.

I kind of feel like this is one of those games. This is like, forget about Aaron Rogers. It's a Mike Tomlin game. Home. Everybody thinks they're going to lose. he reminds you that I don't finish below 500. Why do you all forget that every single year? I think they get this one, Drew,

and I think they end up winning outright. I would bet Moneyline Pittsburgh here. I will say if I were gambling on this one, three and a half, I'd probably take the home team, but you're just not going to see me counting out the Colts. They burned me at the beginning of the year when I said they were going to be absolutely awful, and they have been great.

Why did you become such a Colts? I'm a Titans guy. He beat us 13 times in a row. I mean, wouldn't that be the reason why you wouldn't do it? No, because I'm done getting burned by them this season. I'm just going to embrace that the cults are good, and that's just the reality I have to live with. He's still beaten down.

He's starting to root for the rival of his team. No, I'm not rooting for them. I'm just acknowledging how good they are. I think this whole weekend is about Chiefs and Bills and getting yourself ready for that one and whether or not Taylor's going to be there. That's what I'm going to be doing. Yeah, we're blessed with a Lamar come back tonight in prime time.

Chiefs Bill is in the 430 on Sunday. Other than that, there's some pretty wide spreads here on the board. Yeah. All right. It's time for our finish it up with our Survivor League pick and our touchdown league. Now, I get the first pick this week on the Survivor League. Drew, of course, is out.

We have left him out of this segment since week four when he's so rudely lost. So it's down to me and Billy. And so you look at the board to what you could choose. The biggest spread this week, the two biggest spreads, you got the Rams are a 14.5 point favorite on the Saints. You've got the Packers are a 13.5 point favorite with the Panthers. And then you got to go down a little bit and you get the Chargers or 9.5 with the Titans. So I go first.

I can't pick the Packers because they've already picked them. So I can't pick Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Ravens lines. Ravens only have two wins. I got one of them and got them. That was a pretty good one for me. I don't want to pick the charges going into Nashville. We're just going to beat up my Titans, aren't you? I mean, I don't want to, but I don't know how I can't.

You all are awful. We can't cover. Is there any way that you all could win that game and not me out of us? What are you talking about win? I don't think, was it like 10 points spread? It's nine and a half. Can't cover that. They cannot cover a spread.

And the other option for me is the Rams. and the Saints. But, you know, Tyler Shuck. Name the starter. And they've been competitive. So I'm sitting here going back and forth, because my guess is

Billy's going to pick what I don't pick. So I've got to either go chargers, or I've got to go Rams. Packers, Panthers is one I'm considered. I can't pick the Packs. That's right. You said you can't do that. Because I've already

used them. You know what? I'm going to take the Rams. They're at home. they're not going to lose at home. I'm going to take the Rams to beat the Saints. I could see a world where Justin Herbert doesn't play great, Cam Moore gets hot and Titans pull one off. Thank you for your optimism. I'm going to take some way out there. So, Bill, you can't pick the Jaguars, Cardinals,

Bill's, Colts, Chiefs, Patriots. So I guess you will probably be choosing. You can pick the Packers or you could pick the Chargers against the Titans, who you want. Yeah, I'm going to continue to follow the Titans around and pick the Chargers. this one. It is just that type of year. I saw they gave Callahan and his staff

all extensions over the offseason and they've already fired them. So give me the Chargers. You're not worried that it's on the road? Usually I am, but not in this case. No. Okay. You have to play through those home booes as they boo their own team. Yeah. So you have the Chargers. You have

we both have still a lot of options. Yeah, we've done good. I mean, I still have not picked the Chiefs. You still have not picked, neither of us have picked the Eagles. You know, so we still have a lot of options. So I'm going with the Rams,

you're going with the Chargers, and that is our Survivor League picks. I'll just be over here watching, guys. Looks like a fun support your plan. Who would you pick what was left? I guess you would pick the Packers, right, against the Panthers. Yeah. Why do you like that one? Panthers kind of show last week they're not real.

That and the Packers are have been very quiet. They're just five one and one. I mean, they would be the one seed right now in the NFC. I don't think a lot of people focus on that. Have we even said their name today? We have. We're not the only ones. I mean, I think that's consistent across the NFL right now. Listen to shows

and stuff. Packers are just winning and not a big part of the talk right now, but I mean, they will be as it goes on. I mean, people you think know that they would be the one seed right now. That tie sticking out helps them. I mean, they should have won that game. Probably assume it's the Eagles at this point, but you're right, Green Bay right now, number one.

You don't want to have to go to Green Bay in January, unless you're Jimmy Garoppolo, you cannot get that done. A droid playoff winning Green Bay. He's done that twice. That's right. There's only like, it's only been done three times ever, and twice it was Jimmy Garopolo. See, we talked early about was the Flacco, if he had won again, just keep signing him to beat the Packers. Same with Jimmy G. Sign with Jimmy G.

If you need to go win, one, go get him. That's right. Well, thank you all very much for listening. Enjoy the games. We will be back Sunday night. Why are you looking at me? TD. TD.

Oh. Our touchdowns. Tutty? you don't want me that's my favorite part of betting and watching football is touchdown scores you got me you got me a little excited right well I can't find my sheet now well there we go so touchdown parley sorry about that I forgot

right now I have I won last week I have three Billy has three Drew only has one the good thing for Drew since he's been so bad at this is that he gets to pick first this week so Drew you cannot pick Jamar Chase, Nico Collins Najoku Jaylen Hertz Seekwon or

C.D. Lamb. Who would you like? Well, obviously I'm going to go with a charger. Now they're running back. It's a little shaky. The situation's a little shaky. I'm going to go with a guy we named earlier as our Halloween contest winner. I haven't used Jemir Gibbs yet. They played the Vikings who I just learned

moments ago have a trash quarterback, according to Billy. So the Lions will have the ball lot, and I say Gibbs Fonsie and some. So you're going Jamard Gibbs. Jeff Hardy, I'll call him this week. So you're going to have to be running back. So that means you, Billy, have to either pick a wide receiver tied-in or quarterback. You have, well, you can't pick Scataboo anyway.

But so you've had Caleb Williams. You've had Jackson Dart. And you've had McCaffrey. So who else would you like? Yeah, I don't want to pick a quarterback. I'll let you do that, Matt. You know, I like picking the quarter. I am going to go Chase Brown, running back for.

Cincinnati. You'll get to watch it up close and personal. I think they're starting to get back on track a little bit with the running game. Give me a Chase Brown touchdown. You really pick the most random people. You pick Chase Brown? Of all the people in the NFL, you're like, I want to put on my money on Chase Brown. Well, it worked with Dart and Scataboo, and we're just going to shoot the train rolling. The two most random picks you've picked have hit. So that means I got to pick a quarterback, and I got to pick a quarterback to run in. I have now, just for the record, picked three quarterbacks. You be heavy. So I've had Lamar, I've had Daniel Jones, and I've had Jalen Hurts. So I'm sitting here looking. You know, I like to pick teams that I know will score a lot of points.

And this week, you know, I don't think Matthew Stafford's going to score. I like score running touchdown. I don't really think, hmm. Well, wait a minute. I've already picked Lamar. J.J. McCarthy, do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Don't you dare. You know what? I'm going to go ahead and pick Josh Allen. Even though it's against the Chiefs, I think that'll be a high-scoring game. He had two last week. It's probably going to be in the 30s for both teams. And the fact is because they play so fast-paced, a lot of possessions, a lot of chances to score. Give me Josh Allen to get one.

He seems like he always wants to get one against the Chiefs. I'm going to say that. You know, football's a team sport. There's a little one-on-one Alan Mahomes, and he's going to want to find the end zone as much as he can. I don't know what the numbers would be in terms of the odds you could get, but I got to think a Josh Allen,

Chase Brown. Who'd you pick, Drew? Gibbs. And Jamar Gives. Oh, that's two running backs. Did I screw it up? Do I need to do a receiver? Yeah, you went running back.

I'm sorry. All right, well, see, we're just squir on the entire thing over. Because if you go quarterback, Matt can now go receiver. Sorry, you already screwed it up. So you can't pick a quarterback. You got to pick a receiver.

That's all right. I got one ready to go. You should pick a charger. And we go to the Titans game. Once again, little Ladd-McConkey. Give me Little Ladd to get into the end zone. I almost said Ladd for my pick. You're picking who?

Little Ladd. Ladd-McConkie, the Georgia Bulldog receiver. He's in his second year. Slow start to the year, but he's starting to pick up. Quentin Johnston isn't getting catches anymore. I cannot find my sheet. All right. So you're picking Ladd-McCongue.

Yeah, that's right. And Chase Brown's my extra pick, I guess. First of all, I could not have done this in a more disorganized fashion. We can hear your papers. I'm going to have to write Ladd-McConkie. All right. So now, even better odds, probably Jemir Gibbs, Ladd-McConkey, Josh Allen. Ladd has three touchdowns this year all in the last four weeks.

There you go. There you go. All right. Thank you folks very much for listening. We will be back Sunday night, which will be after the Seahawks Commanders game. We'll see you later. It's cover zero. NFL cover zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and IHeart podcast.

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