KSR - NFL Cover Zero: It's Conference Championship Time!

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin are preparing for the AFC and NFC Championship games!  Matt wants to know more about Jarrett Stidham because he wants to root for the Broncos over the Patriots.  Looking at the news, how do you feel about the Bills moving on from Sean McDermott?  Matt sees three coaching moves where the teams may not improve next season.    Mike McDaniel and Eric Bienemy have both been hired as Offensive Coordinators.  Robert Saleh is headed to the Titans as head coach.  Matt notes the coming rivalry between Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefanski.   John Harbaugh was introduced as the Giants Head Coach.  Does Harbaugh make New York 'bigger' in the league?  What are the biggest franchises in the NFL and all sports right now?  Looking at the games this weekend and the quarterbacks left playing.  Matt and Drew make their picks for this weekend and which teams will face each other in the Super Bowl.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I-Heart podcast. Welcome. It is championship weekend of the NFL Cover Zero podcast. We are going on a Thursday, getting ready for the two championship games on Sunday, AFC, NFC. Drew Franklin is here with me, along with Billy, our sports.

and Drew, I have really enjoyed these playoffs. There have been some great games. Only a couple of duds. Everybody's been into it. It's been exciting. With that said, I can't get the fever about these two championship games. Help me get some fever about what's happening. Help me get some hot Sam Darnold, Jared Stidham, Drake, May, Matthew Stafford,

fever. You know, all year AFC is the loaded conference, but now that we're here, I'm more excited about the NFC game because of that Bo Nix injury. I wish Bo Nix were healthy completely changes the dynamic of the game. Maybe they win, but from an excitement standpoint, having

Stidham, respectfully, a guy hasn't thrown a pass in two years, started an AFC championship game. Feels weird. All right, so, yeah, let's talk just a minute about what Jared Stidham is. He has not thrown a pass in two years. Two years. Has not attempted a pass.

That's a fairly amazing fact. He's not thrown a pass, not even like, not even tried to hit on a woman, not even an old school pass. He's just been run only. His only pass, once he throws one this weekend, will be in the AFC championship in three years. Like I didn't do, I didn't do him, week nine,

didn't even get in for a series, week three, just AFC championship. So I did think it would be helpful, though, for people so that they could learn about him, for me to give some facts. Oh, you got Jared Stiddle facts. Because they need to learn about Jared Stidham. Okay, Jared Stidham was born in 1996 in Corbyn, Kentucky.

Place you know well. No, Corbyn very well. How far is that from your hometown of your house? 45 minutes from where I grew up. First KFC is there. They have a festival there, which is just the word Corbyn spelled backwards that they call the Nibrocks. It's my favorite festival anywhere. What a terrible name, but a beautiful name.

You don't like Nibrock. They just spelled their beautiful. It's Corbyn. Backwards. So, like, is there any other city in America that could go with a backward city? I have one for you. Oh, you do. Croywin.

New York. New York. There we go. New York could say it's the annual Croix Win Festival. Corbyn has the benefit. It's a music festival. And they have rock in the word, Nim Rock. Exactly.

That's hard to talk. Dallas. Salad. Oh, that might be the best one. How do they not have a salad festival? A salad festival. I mean, maybe because it's two ls, they would call it a salad. A salad.

A salad festival. But that is still, I think that one works. Can anyone think of any other good ones? I'm AIM. Miami. I'm AIM. I'm AIM. Do you understand?

I'm trying here. I'm trying to. I'm AIM. I like it. Saugiv. Vegas? There we go. Sogiv.

You got to add the loss, though. What would that be? Sagiv Sal. Oh, wow. Suggiv Sall. That sounds like an expensive place to visit. First of all, it does. It sounds like it would be hard to get a table at Saga of Sall.

You're going to Saga of Sal? Wow. What is this like a honeymoon? Bad bunnies playing at Saga of Salle this year? My cousin can get his in. I think that works. Let me think real quick. Cincinnati, I'm trying to do.

That's a tough one. At Nalta. Atlanta? At Nalta. That also sounds like that could be something that's an island in Greece. At Nauta. Do you think this is how they let off good morning football this morning? Probably.

I'm just saying Jared Stidham could start, because he's from Corbyn, if he goes to Super Bowl, could start a whole wave of people who have festivals with their city name back. And Dallas has to be next. Yes, the Salad Festival. Salad. Salad, I think makes perfect sense. So I'm just saying for those of you that have hoped for this idea for a long time, probably none of you, if you have, you're going to be rooting for Jared Stidham.

I'm going to be rooting for Jared Stim because I hate the Patriots. Not even the Patriots. I hate Bill Simmons being happy. Really, you always use him as an example, but really just Boston being happy. Yeah, but let me give me an example of what Bill. Bill Simmons does. And again, I listen to Bill Simmons every week and like him. I have such an odd relationship with this person in the sense that I don't miss his podcast, but also wish he wouldn't talk. How's that possible? You choose to listen to it. I know. And I choose to listen.

He does the 50 most rewatchable movies of the 21st century. I'm like, I got to watch that. And then I just get mad. How can you pick that movie? And you've been. following Bill Simmons since I've known you. Like his page two stories back in the day, whatever was called. Let's be real. I remember the first time I read Bill Simmons, sitting on the toilet at Wilmer Cutler and Pickering as a summer associate

in the summer of 2001. Wow. I didn't know it was that big of a moment. You remember exactly where you were sitting. I would, I hated being a lawyer at Wilmer Cutler and Pickering. Good people, but it was a summer associate. I hated it. I didn't know Bill Simmons was one of these moments where you always remember where you were. That was a very vivid picture you painted. I had to wear a suit every day. I lived in

D.C. Not intentionally. That's where Wilmer Cutler got me there. Apartment. You go where the business is. Well, every time I would like ask a taxi, again, pre-Uber, asked a taxi to take me home, the taxi driver would look at me and go, oh, I didn't see what you want. I'm like, no, no, I promise you. I live here. I would walk from 10th and M in D.C. to Wilmer Cutler and Pickering, which was on like 33rd in him, in a suit in the summer. So I'd be hot, right? I'd be hot. I'd get there. And, you know, they had all open windows.

Everybody could see. And you had to sit at your desk. You had to sit with your jacket on. It was miserable. So the only time I knew that I could be left alone is if I went and sat on the toilet. Did it nine times a day without even using the bathroom. Because the thing they won't question you on is the toilet. That gets you in trouble if you're not on the door.

They don't want to know the answer to your question. Right? So I would, and remember, this is just a few months before 9-11. Everybody was a lot more laid back. I would print off the latest, I think every Tuesday, Bill Simmons would have a page two column. It would be 14 pages long. And I would sit and waste a good 30 minutes. So I've had a long relationship.

It's coming towards 25 years. Wow. But I hate how happy he gets with the Patriots. And like today, I listened to this just before I came here. He's like, so the catch by the Patriots on Sunday, in my opinion, is one of the seven best catches by the Patriots in a playoff game. Let's go over him. And I was like, no. No one wants that.

But then he does. And I still listen. So I want him to lose, is the point. Well, if you followed someone for 25 years and they're a Boston sports fan. They're going to have a lot of success that you're going to have to do with. Yes, they've had a ton, the Red Sox. Way too much. During that period of time, you know, they've won all those Super Bowls.

The Red Sox won their first World Series and then won a couple. The Celtics have been really good. The Bruins maybe even want, like it's just been too much, Billy. And I want him to be sad, not unlike his day-to-day back, but I want him to be sports sad. I felt like we were getting there with Kansas City, though, with all the Patrick Mahomes and the winning he was doing. But they're not good at any other sport. Right. So they're not good at baseball.

They're not good at basketball team or a hockey team. So what's okay? So not the same dominance as the entire city of Boston. Do you know any Kansas City people? Like who? Like fans? Like media. Like they're Boston people on every station.

There's Boston people. Name me a famous Kansas City media person. Jason Anderson. No one listening to this knows who Jason is. And I like Jason. It's not to say. It's not. And Boston gave a lot to us.

They've had too much fun. I know. I appreciate. We thank you for the tea party. It helped. Paul Revere. He did something around there. He was good.

I like what he did. Yeah. Big Paul Revere guy. Sam Adams, great beer. Thank you. I've been up there, did the tour. TV show, cheers. I like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

Have you seen the new movie yet? It's on my list. But I feel like I've been saying that for, some movies for six years. That just keeps getting pushed away. Yeah. Well, point being, I don't want them to succeed. And that's really what's driving me to be pro Jared Stidham. I didn't give you a lot of facts. I got stuck at Nimrock.

No, that was just one fat. We're still going. His family then moved to Stevensville, Texas, where he went to elementary school. And then he went to Stephenville High School. And he was named the sixth best dual threat quarterback in his class. I remember him being a hot target. He committed to Texas Tech, but then later changed to Baylor. But then after Baylor, things didn't work out so well, so he went to Auburn, which is where he played his college football.

And I may add, was the 2018 Music City Bowl MVP. Auburn quarterback right before Bow Nix. So they went Auburn to Denver. You could argue this has been his biggest game since the 2018 Music City Bowl. which is bigger we're big music city bowl guys this has got to be a pinch yourself moment for him

you know being an athlete he's got to have the confidence who it wouldn't be where he is but what a world where you're just an earpiece clipboard guy for two seasons and we're not just throwing you into the playoffs it is the Patriots and if you win you are the starting quarterback in the Super Bowl yes

okay I found this on the three interesting football facts about Jared Stittam Okay. Jared Stidham was picked in the fourth round, and he was, and he selected the number four as his jersey for the Patriots, as who selected him because he was picked in the fourth round. It was an honor because he was the first Patriots player since Adam Venetary to wear the number four.

Oh, he took Vinatari's number. I didn't retire it. Well, maybe when they got Stiddle, they're like, I don't know if we should retire yet, maybe. But, I mean, is that an honor? I think so. That's a legend. People still probably wearing Venetary jerseys around.

You could say, you know, that was me too. Yes. His first start happened in 2020 during the COVID season when he was third string for the Patriots. Cam Newton and backup Brian Hoyer both got COVID the same week, which allowed Jared Stidham to start.

He probably had a shot. It's a big moment in that locker room. vaccine awareness. He is. Right? So we know he is pro-vax, and we also know that he appreciates the history of the number four. Pro-vax or social distance.

One of the two. He was just cautious knowing he didn't want to lose his opportunity. And he comes back home to play the Patriots. Right. And he comes back home. That's exactly right. Mike Vrable said that they called about adding Stidham this year. We're kind of checking in, see if he was a,

available because they trust him so much as a backup. And now finally, last year, after signing a two-year, $12 million extension with the Broncos in which he got $7 million guaranteed, he only had one play of the season. He came in to kneel

down on the final play of the Broncos victory over the Cowboys. So, it's not a great sign when those are the three facts that are considered the most interesting, about your player career. But say lovey.

It's still in time. It's got to be cool also seeing the Patriots. Team he knows well. They know him. They liked him there. He's a backup. Backups are always lovable. So a huge moment for him.

I wish he had played a little bit of football. So I know what we're looking toward you. The problem is no tape. No tape. They can't prepare. They have no idea what he will do. Here's what they may not know. Since the last time he's played, he's left-handed.

Found out. One doctor's visit changed everything. It's going to throw everything off for. They're going to have their entire defense projecting him to roll right, but he is going to roll left, and now they're not going to be ready. Rosters and coaches have changed, but maybe he knows the Patriots playbook or at least knows his way around the building. That'll help.

It knows his way around the building. Be hard to know. Guys, I have this playbook from five years ago. I don't think that's going to help a lot. but so should be exciting I'll be betting the stidum over on touchdowns what do you think it is I'm just going to bet it it to I assume it's probably one and a half

I would assume it's one and a half but maybe I'm going two plus big stidom game won't pick a win but he's going to be he's going to perform two plus yeah you think my man's going to throw two touchdown big time players make big time plays and big time games and he is from the home of nibrock and there's nothing bigger with brighter lights than nibrock Well, Nibrock, Salad, Sagg, Saggisal.

The big one, what was the Hafe-Litt one? Was that the Sagisal? Sagis-so. It was how you pronounced it, I think. Sagra-Sah. Yeah. Oh, wow, it just got more expensive. Visiting there just doubled in price.

Yeah. All right. So now there's other news besides Jared Stidham. And Billy is here to bring us some of that. Billy, give us some headlines. Yeah, shortly after we recorded on Sunday, the Buffalo Bills, fired Sean McDermott after their loss to the Broncos. He was 98 and 50 in nine years with the bills, but eight and eight in the playoffs.

Owner Terry Pagula commented on the firing of Sean McDermott, citing the visible distress of many players in the locker room as a big reason why he made the change. He said, quote, I saw the pain in Josh's face at his press conference and I felt his pain. I know we can do better and I know we will get better. I was a little surprised by this. You know, to me, if he's had such a good run, it's not his fault. McDermott that they lost the game. I don't know why they think a new coach is going to make a huge difference. If anything, you might blame the GM for not having enough offensive weapons.

I mean, I actually thought this was not a smart decision, but what about you? Surprise me. I mean, I know they haven't gotten to their ultimate goal, but, to be in the conversation every year and have a shot, it seems weird to fire coach. In hindsight, you know, maybe Alan didn't want him. I don't know their dynamic. Is there reports that that's true?

No, no, I'm just saying when Alan was crying and saying it was on me, was that like I'm trying to keep it off of him in that moment? I don't know. Well, that makes it even more. It would make it weird that they'd fire him. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know they're dynamic, but that could have been the case

because we know how Alan was over the top and trying to put it all on himself. Yeah. Yeah, I don't get it. I mean, you know, this has been, they've allowed three, three coaches have lost their jobs, who to me have done really well, Tomlin Harbaugh and now him. I mean, maybe what are the chances that the next coach for the Ravens, Steelers, or Bills does better than those three? How many of them do you think will make a hire that is more successful than the guy they fired?

Well, that's why I think it's so crazy with him. knocking on the door. I mean, sure, they just lost a road game, but I mean, you're in the second round of the playoffs. So that means you trust your search is going to go find someone that will have you at the bare minimum in the AFC championship. But let's just go more specific because, I mean, these are also teams that are full of veterans. Which of those, how many of those three franchises over the next three years will be better than they were the three years before? The Steelers, I don't think will be because they don't have a quarterback. I mean, if Rodgers comes back, do you think they're going to be

better? Same situation. Both have expiring Corbett. I see Alan having a little more life than Aaron Rogers and even Lamar. I agree, but do you think they will do better than? No, no, no, no, that's my point. That's why I think. They've been to back, I mean, they've been to two of the three last AFC championship games.

That's why the bill specific. The Steelers kind of think it was good for both parties, even though Tomlin's great, and I don't think the results are the reason. The McDurgeon one blows my mind. I mean, yeah, I guess they could have won the game at Denver, but you're going to go make a hire that would have won that game? I don't think those people are out there. McDermott, no, even though he should have answered for giving up 33 points as a defensive head coach.

I mean, that's... What did you want him to do? I don't know. Jump in front of a train? Like, he said that they had to be better. I mean, he should have some responsibility to that. I'm not saying he should have fired him. When people say that, what do they mean?

Should have some responsibility. What should he do? They should take some criticism. Cut off his pinky? I mean, maybe focus on the defensive side of the ball, not drafting Keon Coleman, which we can get to in a second. Okay, but all right. Turnovers are while they lost.

So let's go to that part because that's part of it too. What happened with Keon Coleman? Terry Begula, the owner for the bills, kept Brandon Bean as general manager despite firing Sean McDermott. And he was noticing all the heat that Brandon Bean was getting on drafting Keon Coleman. So the owner, Terry, went out and said the coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player and taking the advice of his coaching. staff who felt strongly about the player.

Well, it's still on you, though. First of all, even if I think all that's true, two things. One, still on the G-E. That's my favorite party. They're talking like he came in and burned down the building. He's on your roster next season. And second, he's on the team. He's right there.

He's on the team. Like, he, like, he didn't move. You got to go see him. You got to be like, hey, man, you know when I said we shouldn't have picked you. It's true, but we still need you to play well. I don't understand either of those comments. The GM, okay, he was listening to his coach.

Well, it's still on you. Secondly, Keon is right there. And Young, it's like second year. Yeah. They're having this press conference. And on the other side of the wall, Keon Coleman is lifting weights to get better for next season. I mean, Keon catches an unnecessary strike. Keon is like

excited for the off-season Got to get focused I could do better and I'm going to do better but they're talking about him in the next room like he sabotaged the organization and left

and he's not even in Buffalo anymore no he is in your wide receiver room and is in theory part of your offense the next season or two now Brandon Bindeed say later in the press conference he was my pick I made the pick Terry's point was that

we might have had a different order of personnel versus coaching but But see, that's even more of a compound answer, right? Do you think if Keon Coleman had been successful, he would have come out and said, I actually wanted someone else? No. But Sean talked me into him. No.

I mean, there's nothing worse than not accepting responsibility for a decision that you did make. Right? He did make it. So I just, and then it's almost like he's putting. the whole failure of the McDermott regime on Keon Coleman. There's also this thing that I think people forget exists videos. And the internet today has been sharing nonstop videos of being on draft night and in interviews talking about how bad he wants Coleman.

So whatever narrative they're trying to paint now, we have clips of him saying it's Keon and things like that. So we can just go to the tape and know who they wanted. But even if the coach did force him into it, if you're a GM, you can't admit that the coach is, pushing you around in the calls. That's your job. So you're either, you either drafted him or admitting you don't even have enough clout in your own room to make the pick.

The coaches are doing it for you. There's some breaking news here. The NFL and the competition committee are not planning to make major changes to the catch rule, although they could take steps to promote better understanding of the rulings. What is that going to be like? You're going to hire a PR team. Teaching children in schools? I still don't understand what the rule is.

Here's your floor ad. We're going to check you for lice. And now this is how you complete a catch, young kid. I've never understood the rule because it's not the same rule when you are like in play as when you're going to the end zone or out of bounds. It's not the same rule. Like you're down. But then you're not down until you roll over and like sing a lullaby. You have to declare to the ref that you caught it.

You got to say you're still holding it. But I don't know why declaring is part of it. There should be no declaration involved. It should be objective. We don't ask these receivers to go, I hear you, I declare that I've caught the ball. I get they're saying complete the catch, but it seems referees don't agree on what's completing the catch.

Some guys roll six times. I don't understand. Here's what I understand. You're down when your knee hits the ground. Right. I don't say that if it's a catch. You have to complete. the catch you? Why? To show you have possession, I guess. But I am down for fumbling purposes

when I'm touched with my knee on the ground. Why am I not down for catching purposes? I guess you can get an image where you have two hands on the ball and a knee down, but do you really have possession? Well, I don't know. I mean, do I really exist or am I a figment of the Matrix's imagination? Well, they say you have to have. On some level, I have to have some objective truth, Mr. Kant. I'm with you. I'm with you. Well, you're supposed to make a football move after you make the catch.

I don't like that, but what are you got? You got a stiff arm? You got a spin. Well, that's why you have to survive the ground. That would be your football move in this instance, would it not? I have to survive the ground. Yeah, you have to make the catch. It's like Des Bryant back in the day.

It's the famous one. I mean, hit the ground. Ball came out. You got to roll over a little bit. Just because you say it happened in the past doesn't mean it's a good rule. Now, if you made a football move and then you're neat. That's the thing I hate the most. Two steps.

What's a football move? Two steps and possession. What if I'm falling down? I can't make two steps. I'm diving. That's why you have to complete the catch. But I mean, sometimes they'll make you roll over and bark before it counts. I can't.

I can't speak to the barking. I like that they're hiring a PR team to help, though. Well, it's not, I mean. Maybe we're the PR team. I don't completely understand it now. And I, but maybe with the help of these explanations, I will. All right, what's the next one? We have a couple of new offensive coordinator hires in the National Football League, too, we'll talk about now.

Mike McDaniels is going to become the Chargers offensive coordinator, teaming up with Jim Harbaugh, and Eric Bienemy is going to return to Kansas City and become the offensive coordinator once again. Eric's sleeping with Bienemy. First of all, Mike Me Daniel. Odd to choose to be an offensive coordinator when supposedly he was up for. for other jobs. Is this a I wasn't going to get the jobs, so I am getting out before you get rid of me,

or do you think he thinks that being the Chargers offensive coordinator is better to get him a better job than Cleveland, Tennessee, or whatever was open for? I leaned that one, the second option of, let me do a holdover year, look great with this offense and Herbert on a team that's probably better than how they've looked. I know their playoff team, but they probably have more than what they've shown.

He thinks he can help break that through. But also part of me thought, you know, L.A., Mike McDaniel. Oh, you think he's going to party? That's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. So he's been in Miami. He's used to go into the clubs. After a big win, he goes to 11.

Yeah. I didn't know that was a club until I just saw all the Indiana people went. Did you see that story? It looks like a big party. Yeah, they went to, I guess it's one of the big nightclubs, and they all went, but they were all dressed in like jeans. We never would have gotten into jeans Yeah, and they wouldn't have gotten in

And so the club had to just agree We will let in all these yokels And we will bring our dress code down for the night I know Mendoza wasn't out there Partying, wasn't it? Oh, he was, yeah, there's video of them Now I can't tell you how hard he was partying. He was in 11?

The fact that I know a name of a club in Miami is crazy in and of itself Get ready to learn San Francisco club names. Oh, dude, I don't know all those You think I don't already have the promoters 12. Yeah.

That'd be nice. Just across the street, open up a club called 12. We are them plus one. So maybe he just, he's used to the, he can't imagine moving from Miami to Cleveland. And then like,

Cleveland with an unknown quarterback and almost certainly going to get fired in three years. But Tennessee, I mean, maybe unless you just don't believe in Cam Ward. I think he failed the Tennessee interview when I saw his outfit. That was not a serious outfit.

At the airport. He was going, he was doing Baltimore and Tennessee. You don't think he went home and changed first? He should have. He should have went home and changed before he got in Uber. But I do think there's something to, it's Harbaugh, there's a quarterback I can win with, it's L.A. All I got to do is go make this offense look good. My phone's going to ring again pretty quickly.

Yeah. I mean, that may be true. I don't have to be in front of the cameras. I'm just scoring points. I would assume it's a huge pay difference. between that and a head coach. It's true. Yeah.

I was just a little surprised by it. But he also may have thought, well, I'm not going to get any of these jobs except Cleveland. I don't want to go there. Like I said, I'm going to be fired and then what am I going to be doing? Yeah, and then one of them. Because you're not going to get a third chance. I mean, there is a partial where you can't fail three times.

You can fail once, but you can't fail three times. And then what did you say was the other one? Eric Bienemy. Yeah. I was surprised. I thought, like, I knew he wasn't the OC of Kansas City. He had been where? I think he was Chicago?

Yeah, he was a position coach. But he wasn't the OC. No. No, he was running backs or something. Yeah. But he left, he left on his own, didn't he, from Kansas City? Well, he wasn't getting head coaching jobs. Like, that was.

Because he thought he was Henry. Every year his name came up. Right. So he went to the commanders for a little bit as an assistant head coach. That's where I knew he was, is the commander. And then he went to UCLA. He went to college for a year. Why do you think he can't get a job?

Do you think he's just not good at interviews? It's got to be the interviews. Because every year for it felt like a decade, the moment a coach got fired, the list would come out. His name would be top five. This goes back to my point we made a few weeks ago. Do you think maybe people overreact to the interviews? I think so.

You know, when I sit down and I got my Sunday ticket in my red zone, not one time I've seen a coach sitting at a desk in an interview setting when they're trying to win a game. I mean, I... They're calling plays and coaching players. It would be interesting, especially if he comes back to Kansas City, and let's say the offense immediately clicks again next year. And there's back.

And there's back. And there's a case of maybe we shouldn't listen to our gut on these interviews and just go, does he win or not? Whose Todd McShay have is the best coaching candidate, just like the draft you mentioned during the last thing. Well, I mean, if you were objectively looking at who are the best candidates, Eric B&M would have won years ago. Right.

right so maybe that's what they should do I just can't imagine the man keeps failing all of these interviews yeah maybe he's got a bad handshake could be it maybe he's laid to all of them could be low things he doesn't he doesn't know how to tie a tie they're like who look at that wins or not can't harness guy let's say you were a GM and you were doing a head coach interview

and the person was scheduled at 3 o'clock and let's say you knew they were in town. Okay. The flight's not the light issue. Like they're at the hotel across the street. What's the latest they could get there before you would just disqualify them for the interview? I'm going to have to flex my GM muscles and not tolerate more than a couple minutes.

Unless it's like a big name and I really want him, he can be as late as you once. But let's just assume this is you're down to two people. And let's say you're like, I genuinely don't know. Is 305 too late? I think so. no way John Harbaugh shows up 30 minutes late I'm saying like let's say it's two

random people it's Mike McDaniel and Robert Salon you're trying to decide what is the moment where them being late becomes part of the decision process 305 I'll give it 10 minutes then I got to start doing my job

I might even go 315 all right but you know they're across the street they roll in at 315 no explanation what up man don't even acknowledge they're late well i don't like that like we're off to a bad start yeah at that point you're just so you're gonna hold it against them you have to all right now if you're good at your job what's the earliest that they get there that you don't think they're a

freak this is tough i like to be early but there is a psychotic early there is a psychotic early like why are you in the parking you're making us uncomfortable you're here so how long have you been here. What's the earliest you get there that like people go, would you like some water? There's coffee shop across the street. Yeah, we don't even, we're not open yet, man. 2.30? It's 2.30 too early? No. No, I was going to say like, 2.15. If you're there more than an hour before, I was going to say, if you're trying too hard. So you're saying 1.45 too early. I almost think you're overcompensating for a weakness. Like, I'm going to try to win the getting there early because I'm bad at something else. I'm going to be

freaked out if you're there at 2. And I'm starting to get freaked out if you're there at 215. Because it's like, are you going to just annoy me the whole time you're here? But when you've hired them, you want them to be the first in the building. Oh, yeah. You want the first one in, last one

out. Like if you're 15 minutes late from my interview, I don't want my starting running back being like, where's my coach? We were supposed to be here. But I don't care how good you are as a coach. If you're going to make my skin crawl for three years, I got to move on. So you're only giving them 15 minutes late, but you're letting them be an hour early.

Yeah. It shows they want it. Well, so we're going to assume Mike McDaniel was late, Tom. He was late. Robert Sal was not. Okay. All right. What else?

Well, Mike McDaniels will not be going to Tennessee because they hired. It's a singular. It's like Stanford Cardinal. What? McDaniel. No, McDaniel. It's not McDaniels. Well, Josh McDaniels is still coaching right now, but it will be Mike McDaniels not going

to Tennessee because. they hired Robert Sala. And I think Drew has touched on it in the past, but now the news is official. I wanted to get his thoughts. I like it. He was high on my list. Part of it was I enjoyed the hard knocks he was in.

Not going to lie. I'm a soccer for hard knocks. And I believe that the Jets are just one of those cursed organizations where you can't judge his time with the Jets. The defense was good. But, I mean, they never win. Why would you expect him to win? So I'm excited about him.

My only concern is he's a defensive guy. Best coordinator in the NFL probably. And we have a bunch of. young offensive guys who need developed. So he has to absolutely get a good OC. Now, I've seen Brian Dayball's rumor. If we get a head coach from the Giants that I thought did pretty well, given the circumstances, as our OC with him, then I'm very happy.

Oh, yeah, definitely be very. So I'm still pleased with the higher. It just wasn't enough offensive coaching for the roster. But if I'm Davey, I'm sitting out before I'm being the OC of the Titans. No offense. But like I'm going to wait. If I'm not to have to be the OC, I'm going to. I have to be on a team that I know is going to be good.

It all comes down to do they believe in Cammore. A good O.C. would love to get their hands on a young up-and-comer quarterback. Do you, is Robert Sala now hottest coach in the NFL, head coach? Trying to think Andy Reid, no. Swiping left on Andy. Andy, Swiping left. Andy Reid. Andy Reid probably the least hot.

Yeah. Anybody less hot. I'm trying to think of. Less hot than Andy? I mean, Mike McCarthy's not back and leave yet. I'm swiping left in my mind through the hole. I think it's going to have to be Rob. Robert Sala.

Who else are even the contenders? I'm not like a Kyle Shanahan. Oh, McVeigh. Oh, McVeigh. Too much hair gel, though. He does like the middle school spike. Yeah, I mean, Robert Sala is one of three people I've ever watched a sporting event with a woman and had them go, who's that. And you have to change the channel.

You didn't even see that. Here, let me. Yeah. I mean, the all time of that is Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo can be on any TV screen anywhere and you have lost your woman. She leaves you and goes and tries to start date. She buys season tickets for his team. I didn't even know you liked football.

You only got one season ticket. Didn't even think about me? But now you have that Nashville. So that's exciting for you. You know, Nashville is a town where I don't know if he's married. I think he is. I hope so. But that's where all the like a bachelor,

bachelor, The Bachelor's Love Island Reality people have now just descended upon Nashville big dating scene

I don't want any distractions with my coach need to be stuck with the playbook and not out in Nashville but I still like

the hire There seems to be a consensus top three here Sean McVeigh Matt Lafleur and Dan Campbell Dan Campbell

Dan Campbell I'm looking at it Campbell looks like the gym teacher on Beavis and Budhead Did Billy make this little

Is this Billy's list This is not Dan Campbell's not in the top 30. Yes, he is. When you say consensus on what site? USmagine.com. Us magazine.

It's not, there's no thing called U.S. magazine. Us weekly. Us weekly. Yes. And then if you ask AI, that's the third name that comes up. I'm not worried about who AI thinks is hot. I ask them the hottest head coaches in the NFL. That's looks maxing and I'm against that.

Mario, make sure you don't send this video off for them to use on social. No, we can use it. This is an Easter egg. We are, this is, we're very, we're fine in this. Casino. So, I'm comfortable. Casino.ca did a poll. Who?

Casino.com. Dot Cia. Did a poll. First of all, Wednesday, what have you ever heard the phrase dotca? Dot com wasn't available, I guess. Dot C. McVey got 16% of the vote. And who got second?

Matt Lefleur at 12%. And then Dan Campbell comes in at 5%. So AI is basically casino. dot C yet, which is not, I think, a reputable source. So I think we can agree you have the hottest cover. Let's talk about Baker Mayfield and his comments towards new Falcons head coach Kevin Stefanski, a Atlanta Falcons beat writer tweeted earlier this week that Falcons, Kevin Stefansky had a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland.

Baker Mayfield and Deshawn Watson failed, which started a chain reaction to 11 other starters. QB. Shadur Sanders closed out last season with seven starts. Baker took notice of that. He quote tweeted it and said, Failed is quite the reach, pal. You're still waiting on a text call from him after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage.

Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. Yeah, I mean, it was pretty, I think two things that are poor form. One is throwing the quarterback under the bus, especially if you know you're going to be in the division. But then if he really didn't call him, when they left. And I'm going to assume he didn't. If Baker says that,

then Drew, I do think that's poor for him. I think you got to at least say, hey, man, going to miss you, right? Yeah, Galser probably wasn't even a text.

I mean, you should call, but if you don't even send good luck or even the hand-waving emoji, like get your ass out of here. Just no communication is the worst for head coach. Oh, I don't think I realize,

are you wearing wrestling pants? I'm trying to bring those up on the morning show and couldn't get the words in. Those pants are incredible. Stand up just a second for me. They're dazzled. They got jewels on. You, that looks like what a WCW wrestler in 1994 would have come out in.

They have like bedazzled flames on the side. No, I know. Who would wear that? Disco Inferno. Oh, I was going to go Buff Bagwell. But yeah, he would have been buffing the stuff in those. Those are Disco Inferno. I'm just saying I've never seen those.

I wish I could pull that off. I think if I wore those in public, the reaction would be different than you wearing them in public. I don't want to get too personal, Mario, but I do have to ask, just from my own knowledge, did you buy the pants and bedazzle them yourself, or were they on the wrap? They were pre-bedazzled.

Okay, so you didn't do your own bedazzling. Well, they look good. They're very shiny. Yeah, they buy them today with holes in the jeans. That's not what this is. These are same vein. Matt, bedazzle pants. Can you even go through a metal detector in those?

Did they make you at the airport take off your pants? They do me and I always don't think it's necessary. Sir, why am I the only one? Are those going to San Francisco? Are those Super Bowl pants? Oh, that might be Super Bowl pants. I think that's like a Wednesday night party pants. You're going to get a compliment from a famous NFL player wearing those.

I like it. It's a good look. Those are cover zero level pants. What were we talking about Baker Mayfield? See you twice a year, coach. Do you like that there's going to have that little NFC South rivalry? Chris Meyer's going to have a lot to talk about. We need reasons other than cover zero's promotion to talk about the NFC South.

Not for us. I'm not sure people even know there's an NFC South. And Carolina, Mike. Who performed at the Wake Forest College basketball game this week? Did you watch it? I did. I want to make sure that gets a mention. A few people in the stands very excited.

A lot of people perplexed. kind of exactly what we thought would happen. Kind of nod in their head. Like, I'm supposed to be enjoying this. What happened to the guy who does the splits with his dog on his feet? And they're like, nope. If I had a... If I had 150,000.

So I... But I like it. And as far, Stefanski, next time text. Yeah, you should text. And I like the saucy baker. When the bucks had it rolling early in the year, he's talking a lot of noise. I kind of enjoy when Baker's got his swagger going. I'm glad he sent that out to let them know, put him on notice in the conference.

Swaggy Baker is a better baker. Yeah. I don't like philosophical Baker. No. Browns Baker. Tampa Baker, first half of last season is the Baker we won. Yes. Also, the Browns had from 2020 to 2025,

Stefancy had 13 starting quarterbacks. And Baker Mayfield went 11 and 5 and led them to the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, the thing about the Browns is the sort of narrative that their quarterbacks have he stunk actually makes them overlook Tim Couch and Baker Mayfield. Tim Couch and Baker Mayfield both had some success for them,

but people just don't care because they get lumped in with every other terrible one, whereas Tim Couch took them to the playoffs, Baker Mayfield took them to the playoffs, and they just get also thrown into the dumpster phone. That's a good point.

That jersey with like the 41 last names, they're just a name on that, but they did better. And then both those get, well, Baker's still got a good career going, but we're big couch defenders. He had on any other team, there would not be bus conversation. And he went to the playoffs. And the Browns let him down. Yeah. And I think he went to playoffs and maybe Kelly Holcomb or whatever.

He might have gone to the playoffs. And I think wouldn't McNabb and couch, same draft class, like if you flip them, Mcnabs the bus, and couch leads the Eagles. Yeah, that's just the way it goes. What's next? The Buffalo Denver game peaked at 51.3 million. viewers in overtime. That is the most watched Saturday telecast on any network since 1994 in the Winter Olympics. Oh, and that was Tanya and Nancy. Also, the biggest TV broadcast since

Tanya and Nancy. You, Billy and Mario, Drew may have a small memory of it because he would have been like it. Oh, I remember it. Nothing is bitten. Tanya and Nancy captivated this country. maybe unlike any sporting thing in my life. It was like as if Taylor Swift was playing quarterback. Not dating the quarterback, was playing quarterback. That's what it was. Because it was women's sports, but with men caring about, like, they combined everything.

And then one of them tried to hurt the other one. And ended up breaking her skate and crying. and there was a guy named Galooly, and it was amazing that that happened. It'd be like right before the AFC Championship, Jared Stidham, hire someone to go break boat or Drake May. Drake May. I don't know what it's calling me. And you also had one woman who was like from the trailer park and country, and then one of them was like an ice queen, right? They both were attractive in different ways.

There were weird people involved. If it had been live, it wasn't live. Back then they used to just tape the Olympics and you weren't allowed to say. And there was no internet. So the news leaked of who won. But if it had been live, I don't think there would have been one human being in America who wouldn't have watched it. Right. There's really never been anything like that in sports, really.

I think it is, you know, we remember like, okay, you go, who are the biggest sports people in the history of sports? Most people would answer Babe Ruth, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods. I think most people think those are historically the biggest four. And I'm not disputing that. But there's also a group of people that you had to have lived through it to realize how big they were. And Tanya and Nancy is one of. Mike Tyson is one of. Like unless you lived through that, you don't know what it was like when Tyson was coming up,

just knocking people out. I think Tanya and Nancy's one of them. This is a little different of like Mike Tyson, but like a thing that happened that never gets talked about anymore that was crazy is just this week I saw on Twitter the Monica Seles video where she gets stabbed in the French Open. That is insane. That is absolutely insane.

A lot of people don't even know that happened, but at the time it's like, what? Yeah, I think that was in the French Open. And she got stabbed. That's right. And her career was really never exactly the same after that. And tennis was still very huge then, much bigger than it is now. Yeah.

So, why are we talking about this? Because it's the most watched telecast on a Saturday since 1994. Well, I understand. I mean, that was a great game. And it was very, very exciting. I mean, I would assume, have they gotten the ratings for the Bears one? I mean, I assume it has to be. I just saw this one.

The Bears Rams will have to be an insane rating, too, I would think, right? Oh, absolutely. especially with that crazy finish. I'd be shocked if it's not in the conversation. NFL is king. Yes, it is. What else? Just a couple more, and then we'll preview these games. John Harbaugh was being introduced as the new New York Giants head coach,

and he called the Giants the most iconic franchise in the biggest sport. He also has final say on the roster selection, which the GM downplayed. But do you think the Giants are the most iconic franchise in the NFL? No. I mean, so let's really. ranked the iconic franchise. The Cowboys are number one. Fair?

I'd have the Packers. I was going to say Packers. Yeah. No, Cowboys are number one. Cowboys are bigger. Just because they're valued more, you mean? It's just, Cowboys have been,

there's a reason why they have the Thanksgiving game. You know, it's easy to forget, but you have to remember that when football became football, the Cowboys and Steelers were good. Right? Packers were just a little before that. I mean, don't get me wrong.

I would go Cowboys won Packers 2, Steelers. I think those are the top three, and I don't really think you can dispute it. Which is interesting because they're not the biggest cities. Right. But I do think they are the three biggest franchises. Would you agree with that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, however you want to order them, I could hear you out, those three.

And then fourth. I think the Giants are, aren't they one of the original? You can make an argument. You could make it. Because the first game that people remember in football, I believe, was Giants Colts, right? Isn't that the famous one? Maybe the first game live that was on television was the Giants. And aren't they one of the original teams?

I think they are. They have Super Bowls in four different decades. I can hear an argument for the Giants is fourth. I think along with the Giants, you would put in that group, the 49ers, the Bears. And that's probably it. So I'll hear an argument for the Giants as fourth. I think if you made me do it, I would go Cowboys, Packers, Steelers, Giants, Bears. That would be my five.

What about you? I would agree with that. I mean, I think you sneak the Giants in a little bit. I don't remember a ton of success that they've had recently. I mean, Tom Coffin. I won two Super Bowls. In the 80s, you got to remember LT was a big thing in America. Parcells.

Parcells. They have several from before. before it was the Super Bowl, too. I don't know how far back we're going. The thing about them is, again, it's how far you want to go. They were the iconic 50s franchise. Like Frank Gifford played for them. So, like, if you're kind of thinking iconic franchises by decade,

Packers are the 60s, the Giants are the 50s, Steelers and Cowboys are the 70s. And in some ways, the Bears are the 80s because of the 85 Bears. So, like, I don't think it's a coincidence. Those are the five we mentioned. Right. Right. Probably.

I think Harbaugh can say it in that setting. If someone had gotten up to the, and, you know, it's the new head coach of Jacksonville, okay, shut up, you liar, no one believes you. But I think they're close enough that he can say it as the new head coach of New York. What about the other sports? Baseball,

Yankees one, Red Sox two, Dodgers? Dodgers or Cubs three. Which one? Dodgers have had a little more success, but the Cubs, man. I think it's Cubs. Yeah, I'm going to go so far back. And then Dodgers five, Then who's five?

Five is. Five's hard. Because there's like eras for a lot of them. Mets. I mean, I think I'm old the Reds are. I mean, they're not very good usually. Yeah, I don't think they would have been in a while. Now, there would have been a time, like, during the 70s big red machine that they would have put the Reds in there. When you dial in on the timeline, there's teams that rotate.

I don't think if you went historically. I think you'd have to say Mets or maybe the Phillies, but I think you're going to probably say the Mets. Would you like to know what casino? dot CA says. I don't want to know. They said the Mets says number four. Cubs at five. The Giants have a lot of history.

Giants are ahead of the Mets. That's a good one actually. Actually, you know what? I'm taking the Mets out. I'd put the Giants fifth because they go back to New York. Way back. As well. All right.

So I'm going to put the Giants. Now, I mean, we might as well do these for all. I'll save the NBA. Hockey. This is going to have to be you. Well, this is hard, but it also gives you a sense. Who you know, you're not a hockey fan. So I actually think that would matter.

The ones that come to my mind as likely, Red Wings. That's my first one was the Red Wings came to mine. Maple Leafs, Rangers. Bruins. Bruins. Canadians? Maybe the Canadians.

Yeah, I think those are actually the five. The only other one I could think of is, I mean, who's in the original six? Is the six Chicago, I think is the six? How high are the Blackhawks on this? I think that's the original six. So I'm going to go, Red Wings won,

Maple Leafs, Rangers, Bruins, Canadian. Do we like that? You know NHL a lot more than me. I just know Red Sox, Red Sox, Red Wings immediately came to mind. Detroit, Canadians, I can't tell you much about them. I couldn't tell you much about the Canadians either, but. Florida team's surprisingly good in hockey. Yeah, and nobody cares about Florida.

I mean, they don't know. That's not even a state. That's my home state. Basketball, is it Lakers or Celtics? Just call it the Lakers and Celtics. probably yeah i was about to say celtics right as i went open my mouth i was like is it the lakers well historically it's probably the celtics

but i do feel like the lakers are the bigger draw in the last 25 years so i'm gonna go lakers then seltics nicks and then i think i i it's hard because like the bulls were so huge but like have you cared about the Bulls in 25 years? I mean, they were never good before Jordan

and they were never really good after Jordan. Yeah, Derek Rose. They did for a little while. Yeah, and he got hurt. And he got hurt. Man, I think there's a big drop after number three, though, isn't there? After the Knicks?

I would even say one and two are on their own pet store. They are. Because they have like same amount of chance, one apart. But again, back when TV became a thing, the Knicks were big in the 70s. They were just win a little more. They'd be in it.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know about fourth. I mean, I guess it might be the Bulls. Spurs? I mean, the spurs have won a ton, but I don't know if I consider them iconic. I think maybe Sixers. Yeah, argument. Where do they have the Warriors?

Seven. Behind the Pistons. The Warriors go back all the way to Philadelphia. And they go to Wilk Chamberlain. So I'm going to put the Warriors fifth because of that. What about you? And the last 15 years of them is about as good as any run as you can have, too, outside of the Lakers and stuff.

It's odd how. I probably go Bulls just because of the iconic Jordan. It's odd how much of basketball is based on the individual players that are there, whereas these other sports are more based, as Jerry Seinfeld would say, on the laundry. Well, I'm an example. I have a favorite team that I have not changed on switched up on since I was an infant. I've never had an NBA team. Like, I love players.

I love the Pacers when Reggie Miller was there. And I think you could make an argument that only the Celtics, Lakers, and NICs are non-player-dependent. Yeah, yeah. Because I think all these other teams are dependent on who happened to play for them. The Celtics and the Lakers and the Knicks are the Celtics and the Lakers and the NICs no matter who's played for them. Those are the three. Those are the three. The rest of them, you latch on to a star you like.

If they move team, maybe move with them. All right. That's how it is for me. I didn't mean to get off on this. But all right, one more. Yeah, my final note isn't much of a news note. But in both games in the championship weekend, we'll have Sean versus Mike. It'll be Mike Vraple versus Sean Payton.

That's nice. And we have Sean McVeigh versus Mike McDonald. Let me ask you a question. Did you notice that or did you see someone else? Oh, that was my research. Well, I actually have to butt in. The top note I have I can show it is Mike Versaunt, Mike versus Sean, because they've been talking about that. Another good researcher over there.

Oh, isn't it? But he's acknowledged. I didn't research. I consumed it. Now, here's a name. He's acknowledging he got it from someone else. It is my first note. Look at my computer.

No, I believe you. You see it. Mike versus Sean, Mike Vershan. But you're suggesting, though, you didn't come up with it. You saw it somewhere else. I consumed it at some point. I couldn't point to where it was, but I did not come up with that time. Are you suggesting it came out naturally from your head or that you consumed?

I consumed it. Okay, all right, fair enough. It is cool, though. It is cool. Top note, right above Stafansky versus Baker. Does that make it less interesting for you that I didn't have, it wasn't an original thought? No, I just, I was going to be impressed if you came up with. Okay.

Also, I was going to be skeptical. Well, I forgot the cayenne pepper as well, so I can't put that in my socks. We didn't do my third note. I meant to bring it up. What was that? We already went over the topic, but Travis Kelsey said he can't wait to see being in me around the facility. coming next year. Oh, he may come back?

Boy, that hire might have changed the course of Swiftianism. Interesting. That would be interesting if he comes back. Does B&M get to go to the wedding? I think so. The way Travis talks about him, maybe a groomsman. Did you read the Taylor Swift, Blake lively text? You know, I tried to keep up with that.

There's just a lot going on. I actually don't even know what the fight is about at this point. I know that Blake Lively doesn't live. like some person named Justin and they fight each other. But less judging, I thought it was kind of sad that their personal text to each other got released to the general public. Like they're talking about difficult parts of their life and it's just on the internet. I feel like that's wrong.

I feel like I shouldn't. Now, I read it. I'm Googling it right now. I feel like I shouldn't have been reading it. But like they're talking about the disappointments they have in each other's friendship and what the other could do to be a better friend. And I kind of thought, why do I get to read this? It seems pretty personal between them.

I think it got caught up in this big feud with this Justin guy. But why does the public get to see that? Maybe it's necessary for the lawsuit, but did it mean for everyone to see it? No, it did not. But that's the world we live in. Public interest, and Taylor Swift is number one on that list. Yeah. Well, we talk about how they don't have much privacy.

And you think about just walking down the street in restaurants. But as you're saying, like best friend texts are on the internet. They shouldn't get to be on the internet. Everything of their lives gets leaked out. Are they friends again or no? Did they like each other now? I haven't been following this one. Okay.

Well, I mean, you're supposed to be in charge of the news, but he was, you're not going to do it. He was busy Googling how many Shons and Mike's going to do Blake lively reporter. All right, the games, we already previewed one of the games. Do you have anything you want to say for Ram Cahawks? I'm really excited. I still don't know which team I'm going to pick. I have to gamble because we only have a few. few football games left.

But as close as they played in the regular season, three points separate in between two games and having overtime in there, I'm really looking forward to it. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of looking forward to it, but kind of not. I know those West Coast teams sometimes feel like they're not part of the real world. I wish it was a better. I wish it was a better matchup. I'm not going to lie. You want to the Bears.

I just can't get in. The Seahawks, I just can't get into it. If we had Seahawks versus Stidham in the Super Bowl, I mean, I'm going to go. But I don't know what to say to anyone. Well, I mean, even right now with what we have. And I know. It's not a great Super Bowl. Well, they did that graphic where it's the four quarterbacks walking towards the trophy and the names are on the back.

And it used to say, Mahomes. Yeah. Jackson, Hertz. It said, you know, Stid them. Well, I'm glad they had everyone's name up there. Or I wouldn't have known any of them. I'd be like, it just doesn't carry the same. I'd be like, please keep these four men away from the trophy. They're going to steal it.

We just got used to. So many last names Or the same last names And now it's like, oh yeah It's a new guard You're not worried about Sam Darnal's oblique It's true What if Sam Darnold's oblique keeps him out?

I mean, let it rip I mean let it rip I don't To be honest with you There's not a less interesting person In the lead to me than Sam Darnold Obligue feels about right for an injury To like a kind of boring

Yeah Like I don't even know where my oblique is Mine's been acting up lately. Hope I'm ready to go for the weekend. I mean, I don't want to strain it, though. All right. So, touchdowns. Touchdowns.

What was the score last week? Well, we had some controversy, obviously. And I do want to look Drew in the eye here and apologize. Thank you. You looked me in the aisle last week in Lodd. Well, then take it with a grain of salt, I guess. But did review the footage, and you did pick Kyron Williams. So we have to change the scoring.

Matt, you now lose a point. You're down to seven. because you picked Rico down. We talked about two weeks ago or one week? Two weeks ago. No, we're not changed. The review process has to end at some point. Also, I didn't need a review.

I've been telling you for three weeks what it was. You can't continue to review the tape weeks. It's like when the NFL, the next play takes off. I told you what happened in the moment. You all just didn't believe me. The adjustment cannot be made. The play is under review. They make the decision.

Then it's over. You don't get to go back. So you cannot go back to two weeks ago. This was your error. you were carrying a month later. I tried to fix it in the moment, but you can't push it back. He did, but that's on you. And you're going to have to look at him if he loses.

But you don't get to change my score to, I had already relied on this score. I had started to, I changed the way I looked at things. You picked different players the next week. Exactly. So I have eight points. Hold on. I have eight points. Now, he can have what, I don't care what he has.

I have eight. You cannot take a point away from me. Last Sunday, we don't have to count it because I've clearly lost because we're going to make things up. I had an incredible run last Sunday. Incredible run. So I have eight points. What do you have?

Okay. Matt, we'll keep you with eight. I have eight as well. Okay. And Drew has four. There's no way. I had four last week alone.

Now we are updating. There's no way. I am betting them. Draft Kings is paying me after they hit. And I come in here and you're telling you that it didn't happen. I do have to throw the challenge flag that he only has four. He got three out of four last week. And I don't think he had one on the year.

So this is my update. That was going into last week. Okay. Okay. It was 8, eight, four. Okay, okay, fair enough. So now last week, Matt, you hit zero of them. Okay, I can accept that.

All right. I hit two of them. I have 10. Are we sure about that? Yes. And Drew hit three of them. He is now up to seven. So 10, 8, 7.

Yes. I will accept that theoretically as the score. I understand. Although I will acknowledge this entire season is under review. I mean, I can't put any trust in this. Like when you say scores, you might as well tell that wall because it means nothing to This entire season is under challenge. No, you shouldn't.

I got worked up. Matt agreed with me on the take. Of course, because you were giving him the points. We went with the moment. Now he's refusing to give up the point. How about me just an honest person telling you and you insisting I'm lying? Well, I just, I didn't insist. I just assumed that I could trust the person.

I even replayed the whole conversation about Matt saying Rico, Nico. I said I don't want a wide receipt. I knew everything that's said and you still didn't believe me. You also went on and said Colston Lovellons scored. No, no, no, you're going to spend this. don't do this. You're trying to deflect. The argument was

Kyron Williams. That was in... You did argue that you picked Colston Love. Well, that's, after he kept lying, I got... It's all about Karen Williams. And you're not going to deflect. This is why you can't go back to two weeks to review, though,

because you end up hurting everyone involved. Just keep this in mind for the future. You're getting a lot of trust in you here. And you have sort of shamed yourself over the course of this. It's really one misstep. I would not put the whole season under review here. do this, first of all, let's do this. We'll do this as the Liberty Mutual bundle.

The Liberty Mutual bundle is presented by Liberty Mutual. We're supposed to pick three games, but there are only two. So let's pick. And over under. That's too much too complicated. All right. So we're going to, we'll do this. We'll pick Reds Guardians' first spring training game on February 21st.

Okay. It's going to take us a while to find out the result of this one. Parley's going to take a while to pay out. I'm going to go Reds. I like what the Guardians are doing this off season. Spring training, though. Yeah, I need to see the weather, but I think for right now I'm going Guardians. Okay. Bill it.

I think I'm going Guardians as well. All right, so that's the start. So we'll take the Guardians because we get two out of three. Now, let's go to the games. Seahawks versus the Rams. I'm taking the Rams. What about you? which is doing to win here

yeah why not well no because they got the spread with the other one with the other game of the long yeah so Seahawks are a field goal favorite Seahawks are a field goal favorite I'm taking the Rams even yeah I'm gonna take the Rams and the points I'm not committing to an outcome there but we are in

for a tight game what about you Bill Rams Matthew Stafford right so the Rams we got it then clean sweet I've got Denver is only plus one I'm seeing four and a half New England four and a half why does it say plus one

I don't know but you should bet that immediately if you have access to that all right plus four and a half I'm taking New England I want the Broncos to be competitive I just can't put faith in that quarterback respectfully to Knibrock and Corbyn just bad circumstances for him

so I think Patriots win big in New England all right so we're going Patriots, Rams, Guardians that's your victory bundle Presented by Liberty Mutual, start your quote at Liberty Mutual.com. Let's pick the quarterbacks here. Or pick, excuse me, pick the scores.

So, Drew, I think you'll go first here this time. And you got to pick who you want for a touchdown. Let's start with the early game, Broncos and Patriots. I'll also note last week, I only did long shots all plus 200 or more. And they hit. So I pat myself on back there. And I'll stay with that model. I'm going long shots again.

I'm looking at it. Diggs is plus 210. Just scored for me. I'm going to keep riding the Stefan Diggs wave in New England this weekend. You're going with Stefan Dix? Yep. Let you all have all the running backs. Okay.

So I'm going to take a running back. Who do I want? Let's see. I think I would like. I mean, with the Patriots, you can go with Ramon Dase Trey Stevenson, or I can get a little saucy. and uh or drag may have run one in

you know what let's just go with remandre stevenson i'm going to take remandre stevenson is mine and you can doubt the corbin boy all you want but give me jared stidum for a tush push touchdown in this game push okay you're going with the tush push

you're taking jared stidum i am all right whatever he's whatever you want to do all right i'll go first on this next one ram seahawks i mean i'm going to Puka. Drew second. Well, I'm certainly not going to pick Cowron Williams. No, excuse me, Billy second. Sorry, go ahead, Billy. I will take Kenneth Walker and jump on that train. Drew got on last week. Stole mine, three for him last week. All right, Drew.

That threw me a curve. In that case, I will go, I'm going to go way long shot. I'm looking at plus 350 Colby Parkinson. I like that. Colby Parkinson. They have like five tight ends. They'll throw to him. Okay. Colby Parkinson is your pick. I've got Puka Nakua and you've got Kenneth Walker the third.

So there you go. That's our quarterbacks. And I guess we're ready to do a little championship. Heck yeah, I'm excited. I hate that there's only three football games left. We do. We'll be at the Super Bowl in like two weeks. Yes.

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