KSR - NFL Cover Zero: QB changes heading into NFL Week 6!
Episode Date: October 9, 2025Matt Jones and Drew Franklin start with Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars amazing win over the Chiefs. Did Chris Jones give up on the final play? Drew explains how the Chiefs will stay... in the hunt. Matt gives props to the Manningcast and how much he's enjoyed it. Joe Flacco is headed to the Bengals and will have an impact. How does Ja'Marr Chase feel about this move? As for the Browns, does this move mean anything for Shedeur Sanders? Cardinals Coach Jonathan Gannon is fined $100k and Matt wonders if coaches can do things they shouldn't. Odell Beckham Jr. accepts his 6 game PED suspension. Drew shares a story he heart about Marcus Mariota calling plays. AJ Brown meets with Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, but will it distract the team? Matt and Drew pick each Division winner based on the odds. Looking at the best games from NFL Week 6, including the Eagles/Giants on Thursday Night Football. Drew is looking forward to 49ers/Bucs and Bears/Commanders on Monday Night Football.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Six of the NFL Cover Zero podcast, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin here,
getting you ready for week six of action in the news, midweek.
Drew, we had a good weekend last weekend, getting it done and ready to go for a new week.
For those of you watching at home,
you to look right now at your little video there because it's not going to look this bad
forever.
I promise.
You and I both got our social media accounts going or like the videos got posted.
NFL network was like, let's put two videos of them up this week.
Yeah, we're still figuring out the lighting here.
Yeah, we're not good at it.
It did look like we're just sobbing over the Darnold Mayfield Showdown discussion.
I don't know why we would cry during its talk about Seahawks' Bucks, but it looks like
we're just bawling our eyes out in the video.
This is a true story.
I'm about to tell you.
I waited to tell you this.
I went to the doctor today.
And there's a woman that works in the building who's been a friend of mine.
And she looked at me and she goes, as I walked in, she was like, you look, you look really good.
And I was like, oh, well, thank you.
But she said it in that way that was kind of surprised.
And I was like, and so I joked, you know, also you're saying I don't look good normally.
And she goes, well, I saw a video of you.
you withdrew and I just thought maybe you were sick.
And that was when I knew, you know, we got to work on this video thing because I can't be
looking like I'm sickly to a national audience.
Yeah, and on the Sunday show, it is late, so we're a little tired, but we don't look
anything like we have in the clips that have gone up.
I love getting tagged in those, but I wish our appearance was a little better.
Yeah, when the NFL network puts you up, you don't want to look like Grandpa Simpson.
It's like 46 million followers or whatever.
I mean, it's just the NFL network.
But it is cool when the NFL network put you up.
Because that's now happened a couple times.
And I've had people that I had one person I went to law school who thought I was still a lawyer.
And now imagine if you went to law school with me 20 years ago, you hadn't seen me in 20 years.
And then you were like, you're on the NFL network.
Like you didn't even know I did sports.
That would be surprising, right?
Absolutely.
But it's bringing you together with old friends.
It is.
That's exactly right.
This new audience.
Well, so we got a lot of stuff we want to get to.
One of the things we're going to do is we're going to give.
We are, I guess, you know, about we're going to be a third of the way through the season after this week.
So I wanted to look at the odds in the divisions.
And now that we've started, sort of see who's going to win each of them.
But first, let's go with what's happened in the last couple days.
The Jaguars beat the Chiefs on Monday Night Football with one of the sort of more ridiculous plays of all time.
Trevor Lawrence falls down, gets up, scores.
A couple things stand out about this.
It feels like a big game for Trevor Lawrence to go and win that.
They had to go all the way down the field with, what, two and a half, three minutes left, gets the victory.
Were you impressed and are you now, I've been saying the Jaguars were my pick for the AFC South all year.
Are you on board now?
Yeah, and I take a set here.
I picked the Jags to win that one.
You, in part convinced me before the season started, I wasn't.
real sure, but the Jags have looked pretty good.
Even in their loss, they still look pretty good.
Liam Cohen, I miss him here in Lexington.
He's looking like the real deal.
I mean, coach of the year candidate for sure at this point.
Sure, he's corny with that.
But the way he's turning that team around, you've got to give him credit.
You get to see all the emotions of Liam Cohen.
You get the do.
And then he tries to fight Robert Sala.
He's yelling at people on the sidelines, but then he gives everyone a hug.
he's a very emotional person.
Wares his heart on his sleeve.
You got to like that, I guess, right?
Yeah, and it was week two or week three
where you had him jawing with Trevor Lawrence.
I think there might have been a moment with Brian Thomas,
whatever the case.
And it was like, are these guys cool?
Yeah.
But it seems they really like him.
You nailed it.
He's just highly emotional in either direction.
It's some big catches by the receipt.
I mean, Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter
have gotten a lot of criticism
over the course of the year.
And on that final drive,
big time catches by both of them.
Travis Hunter made a catch,
double coverage,
and then Brian Thomas
Lawrence through the pass of
the season for the Jaguars
to Brian Thomas
on third down.
So long pass.
So I think good signs for Jacksonville.
What about that last play?
That was nuts.
If you're a Jacksonville fan
in the moment when you just see him
kind of tripping go down, I mean,
you got to assume you're dead.
He fell twice.
It just kind of stumbled
his way into the end zone.
Really incredible blooper of an ending,
especially to be prom-time Monday night
to wrap up a game like that being the Chiefs.
That was wild.
What did you think about,
did you see the video of Chris Jones
sort of like half trying?
He kind of quit twice on the play.
Lawrence fell twice and he kind of
quit twice.
Chris Jones has never been considered a player
that it doesn't give
his all. But that was a pretty bad look
on that one. Now, he said after the game,
you know, I
I wasn't sure what was happening, which, okay, I don't know.
But was that a bad look for the Chiefs?
A little bit.
And if he had done it a couple weeks ago when we were questioning, if the Chiefs still had it at all,
you would add that to the list with Kelsey running into Worthy and all the other Kelsey mistakes,
fight with the sideline.
But it did trigger a little bit of that.
Like, are the Chiefs still what they used to be if he's not even all the way locked in?
Well, they're two and three.
They're two and three.
Now, they play the Lions this week.
But then the schedule really gets easier for them.
So they could easily be two and four after this week.
But then the schedule opens up a little bit.
Are you worried about them at all?
Like, I mean, on the one hand, they looked good for two weeks,
but they did beat the Giants and the Ravens and the Ravens.
So, you know, they haven't beaten anybody good.
Are you at all concerned about your Kansas City Chiefs?
I guess I'll claim the Chiefs.
Even if they're good and it looks like they're still pretty good,
I mean, the Broncos and the Chargers already have a lead on you.
Chargers having a win.
But you get to play a both.
You get the opportunity.
But if I were the chiefs, I'd wish I'd be in another division,
like, you know, the bills surrounded by the jets and the dolphins.
It's a tough spot for them.
I don't think they'll win the division, actually,
but I think they'll get in the playoffs and make noise like they normally do.
Yeah, I think they still, I've still not betting against them.
Plus, they still give her she rice back after the next game.
That'll be big.
We saw how big it changed when Worthy came back.
That's going to be a big deal.
And, you know, it feels like Travis Kelsey is now at the stage he plays himself into shape.
you know, he and Taylor and their Redwood.
They sort of, they've been busy.
But now I think the focus will be on him.
I mean, she's not doing the Super Bowl because she's focused on him.
How about that quote where she's like, when his season's going,
I'm locked in on what he's doing.
You want that level of attention from your mate?
Like, do we believe her?
She said a few times, I think it was on their podcast.
Like, she's learning actual football schemes.
It's not like, yay, he caught it, touchdown.
She's like learning all about the sport.
of football. Like she could try to be a coordinator over there. Do we believe she's that into it?
I do. It feels like to me she's somebody that whatever she does, she gets really, you know,
she talked about sourdough bread a lot. Now, do I think that, you know, in two years when he's
retired, she's going to be breaking down the film of Saints Chargers? Probably not. But I do
think she's, you know, she's one of these people who's, it just seems like very into everything.
I'm used to dating women who have no interest in what I'm doing.
Like, I just, I mean, I have a radio show.
And almost every woman I've dated since the radio show's been out has not listened to it.
There's only one that really did at all.
And most of the time, they actively were like, well, I get plenty of you as it is.
So I feel like that's, I'm surprised Travis, I'm surprised Taylor Swift doesn't do that too.
That could be good, but you wanted to be supportive and know, like, hey, maybe you come home one day.
They're like, that was a great show this morning.
But at the same time, there are probably times where you're glad they're not listening.
You can say a little more.
Yeah, when you drop like other things.
The worst is my wife listens to the podcast at home at night in the house.
And you have to listen to yourself?
I'm like, you cannot do that around me.
Every time my voice pops up, can you knock that out live at work before you get home?
Yeah.
It's weird to hear yourself.
I feel like I sound like much more of a redneck than in my mind, I speak the King's English.
In my mind, I sound like I'm doing Hamlet.
But that's not how I think the people here listening.
soundy. Well, we'll see. Jags and Chiefs. It was a good Monday night game, though. That was very
exciting. Really love the Manning cast. I'm pro Manningcast, continue to be. I thought the
Manning cast was at its best Monday night. First quarter, you got Eli and Peyton breaking it down,
giving each other jokes. They stood up. They were showing how you look off receivers.
Then they brought Glenn Powell and they were talking about his show, but still giving him a hard time.
then they had what was their name
is it not Chloe Feynman
what's her name from SNL
yeah is it Chloe Feynman
Hayley
heyley oh my goodness
Bieber no whatever name is
Heidi Gardner
there we go Heidi Gardner
Heidi Gardner
and she was awesome because they had that
pick six and she's a chiefs fan
huge chiefs fan and she just kept going
oh no no no no
and then at the end she said
he ran all the yards
which is such a great
that's such a great
like not really a fan of sports thing to say he ran all the yards.
And then at the end, they had Fred Warner, who was in the final drive,
sort of showing what the Chief's defense was not doing well.
I thought that was like perfection.
And it's kind of become like the star-studded event to land a spot on the Mani cab.
They haven't run out of anywhere.
They've had Obama on there.
Like, they've had people that you can't get on other things.
They've had pretty much every big celebrity.
I think it's just because everybody.
Who doesn't like the Mani?
Yeah.
I mean, they're great by themselves.
But that third spot, when they bring on a game,
has become huge. And Eli's sneaky funny. Like, I think Eli is legitimately fun.
I've always said, I wish Eli, this post-retirement, Eli, that's hilarious. I feel like we
didn't get much of that when he's playing. He seemed like the stale bread of the Manning's.
When he was playing, he always just looked like he was smelling a fart, like all the time.
Like, that was his facial expression. And it turns out, I mean, they both were really good Saturday
night live host, you know? I mean, the Manning's got to give him a lot of credit.
Their big breakthrough for me when I knew they weren't just good quarterbacks was this.
Sports Center commercial where they kick each other on the tour like Little Brothers with the Fet.
I think that was Eli.
I think that was the moment where I thought, these guys got a little personality.
Had to be tough, by the way, to be Eli most of his life.
Because Peyton's really good.
Peyton's more charismatic.
He did have a big forehead.
So Eli had that going for him.
But to see Eli's coming into his own, I feel positive.
And, you know, we were friends.
You and I both with Jared Lorenzen, the hefty lefty.
A lot of these listeners here will remember the hefty left.
I'll always remember he played with Jared in New York.
And when Jared passed away, Eli flew down to the funeral.
He got a plane and flew a lot of his Giants' teammates to the funeral.
And I remember when he walked in, I just thought that was a very cool thing for him to do.
It meant a lot to their family.
Well, actually, while you were in South Africa, just a few weeks ago, we had Jared's son on the KSR.
And we talked about the funeral and the Giants showing up and how he likes the Giants for that reason.
Yeah, Eli, I think I want to say gave him a jersey or he.
He did something for him at the funeral.
That said a lot about Eli and Jared, the fact that someone would want to make that trip for Jared,
but also that Eli, with everything they had going on in that moment, would make that trip.
Yeah, that was very, very nice.
All right.
The other big story, I think, of the week, the Bengals trade for Joe Flacco.
He has been traded in her division.
The Browns trade him to the Bengals.
And basically, the Browns get a fifth round pick instead of a sixth round.
pick so they move up one round to do it.
So Joe Flacco is basically worth
worth going from
the sixth round to the fifth round.
But I actually think it's a really good move
for the Bengals. I mean, Jake
Browning, you just couldn't put him out there anymore.
At this point, the only thing
that anyone was positive about with Jake Browning
was his wife's one piece
suits that she wears. They're big on the fashion
with Jake Browning's well. His wife seems like a fun
person. But I think Flacco,
you know, Flacco will just be
at least mediocre.
until you can get to borough.
That's good, right?
There's value in mediocre.
Oh, there is.
I mean, he was good at being mediocre for the Browns.
They just didn't have enough pieces to do anything with it.
But he'll get the ball to Jason Higgins, right?
Yeah.
Well, we've been saying this since Browning has looked terrible.
They had to do something.
And it's not like there's just a ton of quarterbacks laying around.
So when you see that they only really moved in next year's draft one round to get Flacko,
I think it's a good move.
I don't think it's going to turn them around.
or be anything magical, but they didn't lose a whole lot to go get a quarterback who's
just beat the Packers a few weeks ago.
If you're Jake Browning, though, don't you have to quit?
Yeah.
I mean, because you got benched for a guy who's over 40 and not on the team.
And you've played a lot of games for the Bengals already.
And literally, he was still on the fly or the drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati.
And they're like, and yes, he is the starter.
Not he's going to come in here and compete, even though he's not here yet.
And we've not even done a medical examination.
We know he's going to start.
I think if you're Jake Browning, you just have to, out of embarrassment, move on.
Yeah.
Flacco was probably pulled over at that world's largest flea market in Ohio between Cleveland and Cincinnati.
By the way, I've never thought that flea market was that big.
Have you ever been?
Last month, my debut appearance.
Not as impressive as you would hope, right?
And the outlet mall town is not that impressive either.
That's the most disappointing.
You get excited.
like the best, they say like the biggest outlet mall center in America and then you go and
most things are shut down and it's, that one's kind of disappointing too.
But that Flacco was definitely in there shopping for some lawn gnomes or something when he got
the call that he's starting.
The road from Cleveland to Cincinnati is paved with disappointment.
Really, if you're trading Flacco midseason, is there a better travel for him to just drive
from Cleveland to Cincinnati?
He stops at that gas station in Washington courthouse.
Yeah.
It's not like the Giants send the jet to bring him to
New York or something flashy.
There's also, by the way, this is a very, we're getting very local here.
But for those of you driving from Cleveland to Cincinnati, be on where, there's not a lot
of places to stop.
Not a lot of towns between there.
So make sure to use the restroom.
We know Flacco, Brian.
You go several times.
When you leave Akron, make sure you've emptied your bladder.
What do you think, Jemar Chase thinks, you know, going to this season?
I bet he's happy, though.
He's happy.
Just me overall, though.
He probably never thought there.
There's a scenario on earth where he's catching passes from Joe Flacko this season.
Now, what I think is most interesting is the Bengals play the Packers on the road.
It was just two weeks ago that Flacco beat the Packers on the road with the Browns.
He has a chance to do something that has never happened before.
Beat a team in the regular season on their home field twice.
No quarterback has ever done that.
And he could do it like two out of four weeks.
and if they were to beat them,
what if the Packers missed the Super Bowl
or, excuse me, missed the playoffs
because Joe Flacco beat them twice
with two different teams.
It's amazing.
I was thinking,
let's say you get to the last game of the year,
I think it's like Vikings Packers
and they're playing to get in the playoffs.
If you're the Vikings, do you just trade for Flacko?
I think you do.
To a hell at that point,
you just ride the hot hand.
We'll give you Justin Jefferson for Joe Flacko
straight up.
Every team just brings in Flacco to only beat the Packers.
It will be incredible, though.
The country will be cheering for him to take down the Packers again.
I mean, the Bingles, the other thing is they can still salvage their season, right?
They're two and three.
So even if you lose this, you're two and four.
But again, they have some winnable games coming up.
And Flacko could win them.
And then maybe by mid to late November, you get Burrow and you can sneak into the playoffs.
I think that's your hope.
And their mindset's changed looking at their division.
You're probably thinking 0 and 2 versus the Ravens when you get your schedule.
But heck now.
Flacco's made a career of beating the Steelers.
So, I mean, they're going to play the Steelers' lives.
Flacco now will have played for three of the four teams in the same division.
I bet there are, you think there's any quarterback that's ever played for three of the four teams?
Actually, I can think of one.
I answer my own question.
What's his head?
Fitzpatrick that's on Amazon.
He played for the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Bills.
Right?
He doesn't count, though.
He played for every team in the NFL.
Mario call me Mr. NFL trivia.
I didn't just go off the top of my head.
You all don't seem as a bit.
You know, this is very impressive.
All right.
Now let's go to the Browns for a second.
So Dylan Gabriel's now the starter.
Doesn't have to worry.
DG.
DG.
The Brown's coach today said he cannot commit to Shador Sanders being second string.
So they are talking about bringing Bailey Zappy off the practice squad.
to jump Shador Sanders and be second string.
If they do that,
then is that just it?
Yes.
Like, then you just have to say,
like,
it's not happening for Shador in Cleveland.
Even that it's a conversation right now
makes you wonder how far off he is
from actually playing in the NFL.
Now, I hate it for Mel Kiper.
I know he got excited.
That was bad for Mel Kuiper.
Oh, no, you meant.
I'm sorry, I thought you.
You meant it.
Yeah, you actually meant that.
No, he took his victory lap when Shadur had the big
preseason game.
And even some of the people,
other critics of Shadur,
kind of thought,
well,
maybe we're wrong.
Shudor's got something.
But if you're not even going to name him a second stringer,
it just doesn't sound like he's close.
I just want to know what's happening in that locker.
Because there are so many,
like,
comments.
You know,
Rex Ryan did the whole,
well,
if I know what's happening,
then everybody knows.
But he didn't say what was happening.
So something's going on.
I mean,
it's beyond like he's not good.
something is happening with him
and the mom thing was not a good look.
The mom thing isn't a deal breaker for him,
but it's a big sign that he's probably too childish
to be a starting quarterback.
Yes.
Like you don't see other quarterbacks in the NFL
in a tough spot during the minor.
How does he stay on the team of Bailey Zappy,
who literally I thought was 55 at this point
in coaching a high school team in Texas?
That's Billy's Hill.
Toppers over there. That's a... That's right. It's Billy's boy.
You can't stay on the team if you're Shador, right?
If they're shopping around and considering Bailey Zappy and you're right there in the
locker room, then what are you doing?
I think it would have been funny if they, if they, if then the Bengals traded Jake Browning
to the Browns and he passed Shador as well.
Would anyone, it's looking like the Browns are never going to hand it to Shadour or not anytime
soon.
Yeah.
Is there anyone out there that should consider taking a flyer on them?
I don't know.
I saw some Raiders fans.
Like, let's just get him and do it.
Not this year.
Not this year.
But I definitely think like if they bring up Zappy, we'll know, I mean, by the time you listen to this, you may know.
If they bring up Zappy, then Shador should go play.
I mean, someone should give him a second chance next year.
But it's bad if you're the Browns.
I mean, when Shador was named third string, you were like, well, there's a world where Flacco gets hurt.
And you're like, and he was picked second.
And then...
So he has to be behind Gabriel.
And he has to be right.
So there was a world you could see him play.
But if Flacko gets traded and not hurt, and Gabriel, let's say, gets hurt.
And then they're like, we're going with Bailey Zappy.
There's got to be someone else out there.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a...
Not a good sign.
That's a bad sign.
All right.
Let's go to Arizona where Coach Jonathan Gannon was fined $100,000 for his...
What would you call what he did with the...
player who dropped the ball.
Was it DeMarcato?
What would you say he did?
Bumpting?
The camera angle I've seen was from behind, and people were saying he struck him.
It kind of looked like he hit him in the chest a little bit.
Yeah.
But, you know, they do that.
People do that in football.
Yeah.
They're like, get him the big.
Yeah.
You know, people do do that.
But you probably shouldn't do it if you're a coach.
He apologized, said I shouldn't done it.
$100,000.
Now, my thing, though, is if a player hit a coach,
you'd be more than $100,000.
First of all, he'd be suspended.
Right?
I mean, let's say DeMarcato hits Gannon like that.
He suspended, right?
Yeah.
Maybe cut.
Yeah.
It's also not wearing pads or anything, too, so it's...
But still, though, I'm with your point.
It feels like to me, in society, we still think coaches get to do things that nobody else gets to do.
If DeMarcato hits Gannon, he is suspended.
Gannon hits DeMarcato, well, things happen $100,000 fine.
I just don't like that.
I don't understand why we let coaches just get away with things because they're coaches.
When I saw this story, my thought, I just never understand how they come up with dollar amounts for stuff like this.
Whether it be a penalty or hitting a player, whatever, late for practice.
Is there just someone whose job, they're like, all right, call Ron?
Do you think any fines work, though?
Do you think any fines work?
He probably shot this one.
I don't know what he makes.
I'm sure he felt that one a little bit.
Yeah.
What does Jonathan Gannon make?
Look that up for us, Billy.
Let's see if we think it's...
You know, you and I talked on another show once about the money is relative to how much you make.
Like, if we find you $100,000, you're not going to like that.
No.
Find me $100,000.
I'm not going to like it.
But if you find LeBron $100,000, does that matter to him?
He will have never seen that $100,000.
In Sweden, if you remember, they give you a speeding.
When you get a speeding ticket, it's a percentage of what you make.
Right.
So, like, rather than $150 for speeding, it's, let's say, 0.02% of your salary.
Do you like that?
Do you think that's better?
I do, because I've always thought if it's like a uniform, even if it's the NFL,
like, my home's getting fine the same as a guy that's barely on the roster,
is not even the same.
So I like that you fill it the same based on the percentage of your income.
Yeah, that way, every person feels the punishment in their own way.
So what does Gannon Bank?
I don't have that yet.
I apologize.
Five-year deal, but don't have the dollar.
Nobody said how much?
No, not in.
Yeah, we need to check with our NFL sources.
But he will not miss a game.
As far as DeMarcato, drop the ball, it's hit by his coach.
A man needs to play well next week, right?
Yeah, and we've mentioned it because it's happened twice now in the last two weeks.
I just can't understand how you don't hold on the ball from one more sick.
We talked about it for a long time last week, and then they did it again.
I know.
On a 72-yard run.
I'm starting to think these players don't listen to this podcast.
Come on.
Get out of here.
That's what I'm starting to think that maybe they're not, I mean, it's the NFL.
I thought everybody listened to it.
Maybe not.
Well, I tell you, he and the guy for the Colts,
they will hold on to that ball through the end zone
until they get to the bench and sit down before they let go of it in the future.
Let's go to OBJ.
I have to tell you, I didn't know OBJ was associated with the NFL anymore.
Odell Beckham, Jr., I really didn't.
As a matter of fact, I thought his association ended like two years ago.
But apparently he's accepting his six-game suspension.
for PEDs.
Now, is he on a team right now?
Yeah.
What team is he?
Is he currently a dolphin?
So let me ask you a question.
Why?
He hasn't played this year, right?
No, I don't think he is a dolphin.
Okay, why is this happening right now?
I wondered this too, because it's a test for last year.
So what's he been doing these five weeks?
Just hanging out?
And then, like, all of a sudden he was like, okay.
Like, why is this happening right now?
I think he's been hurt, and he still wants to play this year.
So he has to accept the suspension.
serve that before.
So how do they decide, again, this is like for my own knowledge.
He's been hurt.
He's going to be suspended six games.
Can he just say, all right, those six games I was hurt?
Can he do that?
Or do you have to declare that you're not hurt anymore and then you get suspended?
Yeah, I'm probably that.
Not sure.
The new story that I'm reading here says he's out to week 12, so they gave him a certain date.
Okay, so it starts now.
Yeah.
Starts now.
All right.
But I would certainly try that move.
So what was the PED that he had?
Do you do another boat party?
Neutralite.
I didn't see the PED.
I'm not sure.
Let me see.
Yeah.
Well, again, I was at the doctor today and they gave me, they like, I have these little spots.
And they froze one off my face.
You ever heard of that?
They like, take something.
They freeze it off your face.
So they did that.
And they gave me some cream.
And they were like, you could put this on there.
and you can put it on one or two others and it'll make them like not grow.
And then they said to me, but you will fail drug test if you use this.
I was like, oh.
So I'm Mone or Fodale did that.
Oh, you think it's like a liver spot or an age spot on his face.
And then like I'm going to say that's what happened to.
What I'm seeing here on a quick Google search while our actual Google searcher is Google searching over there.
It says he also missed a drug test because he flew to Vegas.
I feel like if you skip the drug test to go to Vegas, you need a better excuse.
If you're going to miss a drug test, you have to be like, I went visiting my grandma.
You can't say I went on a boat on the outskirts of Miami, headed to Venezuela.
Grandma was singing in our church at home, and I could not miss it.
I've always wanted to do her.
You cannot say you're going to Vegas.
That's not good for missing a drug test.
He insisted that he did not knowingly take any banned substance.
See?
But when he asked the NFL what?
PED he tested positive for it. They told him your testosterone levels are too high.
I also have a quote from him. You know how bleep goes. We're grown men. I'm in the program. I didn't tell them I was going to Vegas for one night. And now I'm in Vegas. And you want me to come take a drug test and I'm not there. So too much testosterone.
You know, a lot of guys our age start putting that stuff in them. He is getting old. Low tea. Low tea. But I don't think you ought to
do that. I think we've got, whatever amount of tea you have, I feel like is the right about.
When you start throwing tea in yourself, I'm always worried about that. There's always these
men's clinics that want me to endorse them. And I'm always like, you know, first of all, I don't
need to tell everybody what's happening. Do you tea?
I just don't need to be telling everybody, look, the tea.
I'm not trying to spill the tea.
I don't need to be telling everybody. Because by implication, if I'm getting work on my tea,
then tea needs work.
Right.
So I've always turned down the men's clinic ads for that reason.
Mind your peas and cues with my tea.
None of your business.
Also, I'm good.
I don't share with people the tea.
I'm going to my God-given tea.
I don't need to go to a store and get more tea.
Yeah.
Well, OBJ may have gotten more tea, and now he will be out for six weeks as well.
I know you wanted to talk about this.
Marcus Marriota.
Yeah.
So tell you're a titan.
fan. Tell this story. I think you know it better than I do.
Yeah, so Ben Jones,
longtime Titan, was on a podcast.
Billy, what was the name of the podcast? You watched it too.
Buck Rising. It's a radio show.
Your boy Buck in Nashville.
First of all, he's a radio host in Nashville.
I think he has the funniest name
in public life. Look at there.
That's the thing. If you have low T, you can go get your Buck Rising.
Full circle.
A great joke.
It's a great joke.
joke. Take a victory
ramp on that one.
Very much. I'll leave it right
there. I'll tell this story while
you parade around the I-hard building, giving
hot-fobs.
So Ben Jones, long-time
captain, center, beloved Titan.
He was on the Buck Rousing podcast.
And he said that in
2017, their offensive coordinator
was Terry Rubisky
and Marcus Marriota was their quarterback.
So former Washington
commander's head coach, Terry Robiske.
And that Robisky
would not even
talk to them during the game.
Not like when the defense was out there.
Like, would not call plays, would not even be on the headset.
So he was the offensive coordinator.
And he would tell them, Billy, correct me for wrong, but I think the exact quote was,
go have fun out there, boys, and then would not talk to them again.
So he didn't call any plays.
No.
So in the playoff run, where they actually played well, beat the Chiefs,
Ben Jones said he and Marcus Marriotto were in the huddle, just trying to figure out,
calling out offensive plays.
Which has to be hard for them because they can't even say.
the whole defense.
Yeah, and there's a guy getting paid a hefty amount to be the coordinator,
and Ben Jones said he would tell them, y'all have fun.
They got no help from anyone, or just no help from Rubisky?
I guess some analysts were helping.
Okay.
But, I mean, they were talking about how they were trying to set up the run,
and Mariotta would just call a draw.
I mean, they're not.
So what's Terry Rubisky's, what was he doing?
Is he just...
Nothing.
Literally a spectator with great seats.
But they did beat the...
the Chiefs, didn't they go to the
AFC championship that year?
To the championship game?
That wasn't the championship season.
That was the year they beat
Kansas.
In the AFC.
Still though, that's a pretty good year
considering you didn't have an offensive
coordinator. So if Terry
of Rabiski did no calling to
plays the offensive coordinator,
what did he do when he was the head coach and commanders?
It really makes you wonder, how did
this not come up during the season?
Like, when you have an NFL.
Who was the head coach?
Schiff Fisher? No, that would have been
2017 was a...
That's Jeff Fisher, right?
No, Fisher was gone in 2017.
Not Wisenhunt, is it?
With it? Yeah, it was Wisenhunt. It was right when Wisenhunt changed over.
Oh, okay.
No, they would have been 8 and 8 if it was Fisher.
Mr. 500.
All right.
But just like, how does a coordinator do nothing?
I don't know.
Apparently well.
Yeah, it doesn't come out until almost 10 years later.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, first of all, the reason it took 10 years...
It was Mike Malarkey was the coach.
It was the first time they'd gone on the Buck Rising podcast.
Welcome back from your victory, by the way, the office was...
You're welcome.
That's the thing.
If you want to find out, like, you want to find out the information, just go get Buck Rising on the case.
He'll let you know where those files are.
He doesn't have low T.
He just never has.
Well, as a Titans fan, does that upset you that you went that long without an office coordinator?
name.
It's really one of our more memorable runs with that Marriota game.
It's just added to the list of things that make you go, that organization.
God love them.
I love them to death, but I got a long list of what are we doings, and that one's now on it.
Well, I like the story.
Terry Ribiskey does nothing, still gets paid, my kind of guy.
Go get them, boys.
Have fun.
The report came out that after last week's game, Jalen Hertz and Sequin Barkley called a meeting
with A.J. Brown, where they address their concerns about his attitude. All three people said,
not a big deal. The story did get leaked, which makes me think it had to be a little bit of a deal.
Like, if I just call you and Billy and say, hey, can we talk? I don't think they're just going to show up in the
New York Times the next day. So clearly, like, somebody wanted that out. Is this a big deal or
no deal that there was a
star's only meeting in Philadelphia.
I think it's a big deal.
I mean, Philly's loaded, but they need to not have
unnecessary drama like this.
And they need A.J. Brown to be
locked in. They're going to repeat.
I love A.J. Brown.
I'm siding with
everyone but A.J. Brown on this one. He seems
to be a little bit whiny.
He was whining even when they won.
I can understand him whining after they lose
last week, but he was whining after they were winning.
Well, his numbers are down.
And he did whine last week because he actually caught passes, but they still lost.
But he has, it's like nine or ten targets a game, the last three games.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for you.
I mean, I'm sorry you haven't gotten the end zone.
You don't have Pro Bowl numbers so far.
But it's not like they've forgotten you exist out there.
Maybe this meeting worked, whatever it takes, they got to get him focused.
Because it's just a distraction that could set back a Super Bowl team.
Yeah, he is, it could.
I don't think this is the hugest deal.
but I think if it comes out a week after the meeting, with people saying it's not a big deal,
I think as one Bill Shakespeare said, me thinks thou doth protest too much.
So I would say that I do think it's a little bit of a deal.
He's tweeting scriptures about leaving and Merrill last year.
He read a book on the sideline.
This is kind of, this is A.J. behavior.
Can't fault him for that.
I'm reading a book right now called Rejection, which is a bit of.
about like nerds and in cells.
Okay.
You know what an in cell is?
No.
What is it?
People who are voluntarily, they don't want to be celibate, but they are.
Okay.
So they just can't get.
This is a book about, like it's a fiction book, like short stories,
and it's actually really good.
You get into these stories, they're interesting.
I can see how, like, you don't want to stop.
So, you think you literally, when the defense is on the field,
I'm not doing anything.
thing anyway.
I can catch up on the book.
Yeah.
And if they could time a little better,
where you end a chapter
right as they force a punt.
Especially short stories.
It's perfect for a game.
A couple pages, knock it out.
Get the short story, go to the next one.
A book called Rejection,
AJ Brown,
that might right now.
He might have been what he was reading.
You had an interesting stat,
Billy, about Jamar Chase.
Yeah.
So, Cincinnati plays Green Bay this week,
but yet Jamar Chase has more
solo tackles this season than might.
Michael Parsons, which is hard to believe.
That is an amazing.
Well, first of all, that's bad in a myriad of ways.
It's bad that Jemar Chase is having to tackle anyone.
I mean, he has four.
One's too many.
He's got five.
He's got five tackles.
It's going to make the pro bowlers in a lot of them.
That is crazy that has five tackles.
But then that Michael Parsons has less than five.
That's, did the Cowboys win the trade?
That surprised me about Parsons,
but I've also seen several highlights where he's forcing interception.
He's not tackling anybody.
That's true.
I mean, right now, if you had a promo vote, you're going to-Chay's linebacker.
I think Mike's going to be fine, though.
Probably.
It's probably, so is it worse?
Is it a worse look for the Bengals or for Michael Parsons?
Jamar Chay should never have any tackles.
F.S. 5 and 5 games.
It's average of won a game.
he's better going both ways than Travis Hunter.
Yeah, he is Travis Hunter.
Yeah, all right.
Okay, so one of the things we want to do here,
we want to do, we're basically, after this week,
going to be a third of the way through.
We're going to go through the divisions, okay?
And I want to, we're going to do a little game.
And I have my draft king's shirt on.
Billy's going to give us the odds to win each division right now.
And you're not going to pick here who you think's,
going to win. But you're going to say, what would be your best bet here?
Okay. Like if I said to you, I'm giving you $100 to put on each division, where are you
putting the money? Okay. Which might also be who you think is going to win, but maybe you want to
take a little bit of a gamble on one of them. All right. So, Billy, let's go first. What's the first
division? Let's start with the NFC East here, where the Philadelphia Eagles are the favorite to win the
division at minus 190.
The commanders come in second at plus 195, the Cowboys third at plus 1100, and the New York
Giants at plus 20,000.
Okay.
All right.
So obviously you're not going to pick the Cowboys or the, well, I say obviously, I'm not
going to pick the Cowboys or the Giants.
I still, even though it's not a huge payoff, I'm going to take the Eagles at minus 190.
I think they've been more consistent than commanders.
I still don't think they've hit their best.
I think, you know, I'm only going to win $45 doing that, but I'm still going to do it.
I agree.
This is not something I bet in real life.
I need a little more odds than that.
But for this exercise, I can't pick against the Eagles to win the NFC East.
So I'll just take the money I can get there.
You don't like a heavy favorite.
You don't like a two to one.
No.
Actually, three to one.
To knock off the Eagles, I need better than that.
Okay.
All right.
What's next?
NFC North is next.
Only plus odds here.
The Lions are the favorite at plus 100.
The Packers come in at plus 120.
The Vikings at plus 1,000 and the Bears at plus 2,800.
You know, I mean, the Bears at plus 2800 is not.
Do it.
Betting with your heart there.
Do you tell me 28 to 1?
28 to 1, then I wouldn't get.
Do it.
I'm going to take the Lions because I think they're going to win it.
So I'm going to go ahead and take.
But I would say to you what I would do is I do like $100.
actually I do $200 on the Lions
so that way I would win
and then I would go ahead and take like 20 bucks of that
or 25 bucks and then put it on the Bears
because if they win then I won't worry about that money
I lost on the lines.
That's what I would do if I were doing it
because I think that's not,
they're only a game back, right?
If they play the line and a half,
four and one and two,
whatever it is.
Whatever, they were going to win every game.
So that's big if they're going to win out.
But I would take the lines.
But the Bears, that 20-hundred is pretty good.
What would you go?
I was prepared to take the Packers until I heard the lions are still plus money.
I thought the odds would have been a little longer on the Packers because they already have a tie.
They have a loss that they weren't supposed to have.
So I was ready to go Green Bay as kind of a second here.
But if I get the Lions at even money, I got to take that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that too.
I'm not going to go favor.
Would you do the $25 on the Bears?
No. But I'm rude for you.
I'm saving my $25 bet for the Titans.
All right. What's next?
NFC West is next, where the 49ers are the favorite.
It must minus 125.
The Rams come in at plus 200.
The Seahawks are plus 500.
And the Cardinals are plus 3,500.
Seahawks are live at plus 500.
But I'm not going to pick them.
The problem is, I'd really love to have the Rams at plus 200.
But the problem is, again, we've talked about this a lot.
The 49ers schedule is just such a joke.
and they've proved that they can win games with Mac Jones as well,
whereas who's the Rams backup right now?
It's an itch, boy, Jimmy G.
Oh, it is Jimmy G.
That's not a bad backup, actually.
So I'm going to take the 49ers at minus 125.
But if the 49ers had lost last week,
then I would have gone ahead and done the Rams,
but I'm going to take the 49ers.
Because they had 49ers just beat the Rams.
They also had a tiebreaker.
this is one where I like our odds
I like the Rams here
I would bet the Rams and honestly
at plus 500 I might even split it
between Rams and Seahawks
So you're out on the 49ers
In a division this tight
I don't know they have a lead and they already have a win
But they're so banged up
I'm not a believer in them to begin with
If I can get
what was it 2 to 1 on the Rams or 5 to 1 on the Seahawks
I'd go that direction
I'll say the Rams to play it a little safer
But the Seahawks
It's not crazy for that kind of
of that kind of odds there.
Okay.
All right.
What's the south?
NFC South, the bucks are minus 425 right now to win our fifth straight division title.
The Falcons are plus 500.
The Panthers are plus 2,000 and the Saints are plus 4,000.
I'm going to go ahead and I mean, there's no money in betting on the bucks here.
What's the Falcons record?
Two and two.
I'm going to have a good to do with the Falcons.
Really just for the money, just for the odds.
I mean, the bucks are the favorite.
Right now they are a game and a half up.
I'm going to just do the, maybe Baker Mayfield got hurt.
And I picked the Falcons.
That's really the only reason.
So I would put the money on the Falcons just because who wants to win $20 on the bucks?
I would never bet on the bucks.
I also think the bucks are going to win the division.
So I'm going to get even crazier and put on the Panthers.
If we're probably going to lose it anyway, why not?
What's the Panthers?
On the math, mathematically.
Oh, come on.
Mathematically, they're only.
You're not picking the Panthers.
Well, they're not going to win.
I mean, the bucks are obviously going to win, but I would rather lose.
money on a long shot than bet minus 425.
So just like picking the long shot in the derby, why not?
Give me the panels.
But I'm with you.
Just throwing money away.
Well, I mean, you took the Falcons.
They're not winning either.
Oh, they're winning.
They lost 30 to zero.
Yeah, you lost 30 to zero.
The Panthers beat your team.
They're going to beat the bills this weekend, and then you're going to be sad that you
didn't do it.
They're really answer, though, the bucks are unstoppable.
The AFC.
All right, this is a much closer division.
The AFC West will start out with.
The Chargers and the Broncos are both.
plus 175 while the chiefs are plus 190 and the raiders come in at plus 8,000. Wow, those plus
175 plus 175 plus 190. Yeah, that's tough man because the charges are three and two.
The Broncos are what are what are the Broncos? Three and two and two and two and two and two. And then
the chiefs are just two and three. The chief schedule opens up. Let me see what the charger schedule
does here coming up. So here, let's just go through the chargers. They play at the
the Dolphins, then they have home
Colts, home Vikings,
at the Titans, home Steelers,
at the Jags. Those are hard games. They still
have to play the Eagles, stuff to play the Cowboys,
Texans. Give me
the Chiefs at plus 190. What do you got?
I was already going to go
Chargers before knowing the odds.
Even though the offensive line is getting
Herbert killed the last two weeks.
You don't think the schedule's hard?
I just read it. It is, but they already beat the Broncos.
They already beat the Chiefs. They got a significant
head start at this stage. So I'll take
them getting plus 175
or whatever you said. But if the offensive
line doesn't get healthy and improve... Let me see if this
changed your mind at all. Let me give you the chief schedule
coming up. They play the lines. But then they've got
Raiders, commanders,
bills, Broncos, Colts. Oh, never mind.
Oh, man.
The chief schedule is awful.
Why did I think it was easy? Let me go through
this again. This is who they play.
Lines, Raiders, commanders,
bills, Broncos, Colts,
Cowboys, Texans, Chargers,
then your Titans.
Broncos Raiders. Never mind. Give me the Chargers. I'm switching. I didn't realize that was that hard.
They might not make the playoffs. I mean, that's a hard schedule.
Earlier, I said, I think they'll make the playoffs, but they're not winning the division.
I had that in mind. I think they'll make the playoffs.
Even if they're good. The only certain win in that group.
Losing that game to the Chargers week one was a big setback for them with the schedule they have and then them getting a headstart in that division.
It's a hard schedule. All right. What's the next one?
The AFC East is next where the Buffalo Bills are minus 425.
Yeah, just that's what I'm picking.
The Patriots are plus $3.50.
The dolphins are plus $12,000, and the jets are plus $30,000.
I think bet the Jets would be a heck of a move at 0 and 5.
I did the bills.
I mean, I don't want to bet minus $4.25, but you have to, right?
Yeah, like when I did the Panthers in this scenario, they have much more hope than anyone else in this division.
I can't bet on the dolphins or the jets, and I'm not getting enough.
I will say this.
I want to read you.
I'm going to read you the.
Patriot schedule because the Patriot schedule, when I get it pulled up here, is absurdly easy.
And they have a head-to-head already.
Frank Bay looked good.
Yeah.
So let's let me go over.
Here's the Patriot schedule.
Listen to this.
Compare what I just said with this one.
Saints, Titans, Browns, Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins.
that is an easy schedule.
Like that's a really, really easy schedule.
And what should be two of the hardest games left.
One is at Cincinnati, which went from very difficult in week one to now count that as a win.
I'm going to quickly go over the bill schedule.
Falcons, Panthers, Chiefs, Dolphins, Bucks, Texans, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Browns, Eagles, Jets.
Not terrible, but harder than the,
the Patriots schedule, but I'm still going to take the bills.
Yeah, bills are winning.
All right, what's next?
The AFC North is next where we've seen a line change.
The Steelers are minus 105 and now the favorite to win that division.
Earlier this week, it was the Ravens, but Lamar Jackson missing more practice.
They're now at plus 115.
Cincinnati is at plus 1,700 and the Browns are plus 2,000.
I mean, I think you have to take the Steelers, right?
Cooper Rush going to play again another week?
I mean, who the Ravens play this week?
I can't believe the Ravens are only plus 1-15 when they're 1-4.
That's nuts.
The Ravens play the Rams.
How can we know?
They're probably going to lose this game, so they're going to be 1 in 5.
That's a crazy odds for a 1-win team.
I mean, they're going to be 1-5.
So how can you bet them?
I'm going, Steelers.
I think you've got to go see.
I actually think this is of all the ones we've done.
Steelers play at home to the Browns.
If they win and they're 4-1,
and then the Ravens are one and five.
They have a three and a half game lead.
And I'm sure you got Cooper Rush right now,
but the offense will fix itself.
The Ravens defense is just not going to fix.
I have to tell you,
I hate to do this because it's Aaron Rogers,
the bet of the day for me.
No, this is the bet of the day,
minus 105 for a team that already has a two and a half game lead.
Yeah, I'm going to take the Steelers.
All right.
By the way, how about the north falling to play?
part.
Nuts.
This was supposed to be the best division in football, and I'm not sure anyone's good.
No, and it's, it might make the Rogers Steelers experiment when we weren't sure about
look a lot better than it could really be because of the competition.
You don't have any thoughts of Joe Flacco Bengals plus 1,700?
I was thinking about taking the Ravens even at 1 and 4.
No part of me is believing in the Bengals with Joe Flacco.
I don't know.
Just keep that one on the back of your mind.
I might go Dylan Gabriel leading the Browns back over the Bengals.
Excuse me, DG.
Finally south.
Yep.
The Colts are minus 115.
The Jags are plus 155.
I got that.
The Texans are plus 550.
Andrew's Titans are plus 25,000.
I saw the Texans have the best defense in the NFL.
They've allowed 25 points less than the second bestie.
It's a pretty good deal.
It's impressive.
Well, that's 64 points all year, just for the record.
Well, the Titans are helping them out.
It scored zero against them, so that's throwing the numbers.
I'm just saying, I'll take the Jaguars at plus 150 or whatever it was.
What about you?
Man, this one's really tough.
I mean, the Jags and Colts are right in line if I'm power ranking the NFL.
I'll take Indiana Jones.
I'm going to believe in Indiana Jones.
I agree they're about the same, but I'm getting better odds for the Jags,
which is probably why I'm picking them.
Yeah.
When do they play?
Is that coming up?
I don't know.
Who would have thought that would be a must-watch game?
Jags, Colts, whenever that takes place.
Well, that is your, those are your NFL division odds sponsored by no one.
But that could be you.
Can I kind of throw in a prop bet?
Sure.
Will the Jets win a game?
Yeah, that won't one.
You got them winning one?
For sure.
They'll win two or three.
They'll be...
You're taking the over on two and a half?
Is that what it is?
Is that the number?
Actually, they might have that.
That was mine.
Actually, they do.
What is it?
Season wins.
Let me scroll down.
Is it two and a half?
Oh, they're hiding them on here, not an alphabetical order.
Okay, so here's who the Jets play.
They're in London against the Broncos.
Then they go Panthers, bingles, Browns, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins, Jags, Saints.
I mean, you play all the bad teams.
Yeah, they got a shot to win.
They'll win.
Definitely win one.
Nine's four and a half.
Four and a half.
Now, I think I'd go under.
Yeah, I might actually bet that right now.
I think I'd go under.
But I definitely think they would win.
Under's plus 110.
All right, so I'm parlaying.
Yeah, what are we doing?
Plus one ten.
I'm going jets under.
They have the Titans at four and a half?
What are we doing?
I'm parlaying jets and Titans four and a half under.
That, dude, that's a great one.
Jets and Titans both under four and a half.
Dude, I need to.
Yeah.
Let's call my.
banker and get some money moved.
Sorry, honey.
I put the house on my football team.
Losing.
Continuing to suck.
Wow.
That is an amazing.
I can't believe that.
That's what it is.
All right.
Now, let's go over some games this week.
Sort of pick what we're going to do.
Let's start.
We always just, let's start with our little games here, the Survivor Pool.
Drew is out of the Survivor.
Bye.
I have, Billy,
I have picked the Broncos, the Ravens, and the line.
So I cannot use the Broncos, the Ravens, the line.
You have picked the Jaguars, the Cardinals, and the Bill, so you can't pick them.
It is your chance to go first.
So which game would you like this week?
I am going to take the Indianapolis Colts at home against the Arizona Cardinals.
It is a debacle over there with Jonathan Gannon.
Indy at home minus seven and a half.
Kylie Murray can't catch a snap.
give me the Colts.
That's amazing because I love the Cardinals to cover the spread here.
And I'm kind of shocked you would do that.
Although you've done a pretty good job of picking teams that you wouldn't have thought that one would pick.
It's a tough slate.
I'm interested to see where you're going to go here.
It's got to be one of the highest spreads, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm going Packers.
If you're going to, I mean, Packers 14 and a half point favorites against the Bengals.
Joe Flacco is literally still trying.
trying to sign the lease on his apartment.
That's dangerous, though.
I mean, Joe's already beating Green Bay.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Green Bay is not going to be like, we're not losing to this old man twice in four weeks.
So, I'm going to take the Packers.
So you got the Colts.
I got the Packers.
If we finish this, I will have lost a bunch of good teams.
But remember, I picked the Ravens, and nobody will pick the Ravens again, probably.
Yeah, I got lucky with that one.
Yeah.
but you still have a lot of powerhouse teams.
I still probably would rather be in your position than mine right now.
I'd rather be in either of your positions, to be honest, since I'm out.
Yeah, Chargers knocked you out.
Who'd they lose to?
Seven and a half point favorite, knock me out.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, there you go.
All right, so let's look at the schedule.
We'll start with Thursday night football, Eagles and Giants.
What do you think, Drew?
I'm enjoying the Jackson Dart debut the last couple of.
weeks even though they didn't get a win.
It's fun watching the Giants with, I know, it hurts having neighbors out, but we love
Wondell.
He's getting new opportunities.
Cam Scadabo is like America's favorite football player right now, so it'll be a fun game,
but they're not winning.
Eagles, Eagles win it even though it's in New York.
Somebody was saying they like Cam Scadabo more than Jackson Dart.
See, I would think in Pittsburgh they would like Cam Scadabo because he's blue collar and
his like heads made of steel.
But the Jackson Dart would be the pretty boy, New York.
lifestyle, but apparently they love him in New York as well.
So many clips.
Billy and I talked about this.
I think you'll like it, but there's,
Cam Skadmoo keeps getting dirty, but they play on turf and no one can figure it out.
Like, after the game, he's covered in dirt and he's ripped up, but it's like you're playing on carpet.
Why do you think that is?
He's almost like a little folklore running back out there.
There's clips of other players miced up talking about him, like, who hell's this guy?
So he's just become a fan favorite across the league, I think.
I see I'm going to look at this slate here at games outside of that one.
And, you know, again, it feels like last week's slate was kind of, and I feel like this one is too.
There are two games that stick out, not necessarily the ones you would think.
What about Seahawks, Jaguars, 3 and 2, 4 and 1?
Can the Jags go 5 and 1?
They will.
I'm taking Seahawks, by the way.
Well, this is one of those you win and then you come down.
Well, they got to come down to Florida.
That's a long way to go.
It's true.
Big on traveling across the country.
People don't like the game at 1 o'clock when you're from the West Coast.
That's mainly because I'm still mad that the Chargers lost to the Giants in New York.
So I'm just going to ride that take into Seattle will not be ready for Jacksonville.
And they got to be fired up in Duval.
That hot tub or whatever they have at the stadium is going to be full of people.
They're dreaming dreams right now in the Cohen.
What did you think about?
I guess when the Jags were playing the Chiefs, right?
back to the Manning cast.
They showed that hot tub.
There were like a group of people in it, all fairly normal looking people, but in their swimsuits.
And Peyton Manning was like, so they put the camera on it.
And they took it off.
And Peyton Manning goes, fire that camera guy for taking away from that shot.
Oh, Peyton.
Dang, Peyton.
Slow down, man.
A little thirsty, aren't we, Peyton?
You know, you got some hydraining, some hydration.
You don't have to worry about the tea there.
Yeah, lower that buck.
I was very adamant.
Get that shot back on the, would you go into a pool?
Would you go into a pool at a pro football game and sort of scamper around?
No, because for me, I'm thinking about when you leave, everyone's like going to dinner.
And you got your towel and your flip-flops.
You're just like splashing water going out there.
door when all your friends are going to a bar or whatever.
I feel like I'd just be awkward swimming at an event.
It also doesn't look like that big a pool.
So it's going to feel like you're just taking a bath with people.
Oh, and everyone is peeing in that pool.
You're not getting up.
Nobody's getting up.
Nobody's getting up.
It's getting the bathroom line at a stadium when you are standing in a body of water.
Yeah, that's going to be a urine pool.
Everyone's peeing in that pool.
Close game in a fourth quarter.
Everybody's letting go.
I do wonder who, do we know, like, are those expensive tickets in the pool?
I would assume they are.
I thought this, I haven't.
looked, but I assume they're probably really expensive in the beginning.
And then you see person after person get in there.
And now they're like, would anyone like to get in this hot tub that we haven't washed?
They're like going up to people, please be in the hot tub.
And they're like, ooh.
Congratulations.
We've upgraded your seats in the hot tub.
The cabanas for the pools cost $12,500 each, which include 50 tickets and pool access.
All right.
So you get 50 tickets.
So to just do the math, how much is that, that's basically $250 a ticket.
Am I right about that math?
If so, that's pretty impressive.
I got that off the top of my head.
I'll trust you, yeah.
I think it's 12 because if it was 100 tickets, it'd be $125 each, just moving the debt, like the comma, right, the decimal.
So if you have 50, you double it.
It's $250, right?
That's right.
So $250 a ticket.
you know, I mean, that's a lot.
But if you knew 50 people, would you do it like that?
Would you do it like, ship in and let's go to the pool and, you know.
I would absolutely go 50 my friends, pay 250 and wear normal clothes and stand at the
cabana and watch the game.
And not getting in the public.
I like that.
I will take the cabana.
Oh, it would be fun to hang out there.
All right.
Now, your team, Billy, the 49er, the Buccaneers are playing the 49ers.
This will be the game, once again, could come down to seeding when you're getting to the number one seed.
Buccaneers are at home, two and a half point favorite.
You feel good about it?
I like your bucks a lot in this game, by the way.
A lot.
This would be my Matt Jones' triple-finger get a smile on your face lock of the week.
Yeah, Baker's just great.
That and the Titans Jets under.
I don't know how the 49ers are four-in-one.
It is incredible that they have-
And they're losing this game.
Well, they're in Tampa too.
So give me...
Yeah, go across the country.
For me, this is like, I'm shocked it's only two and a half.
I would have thought it would have been six and a half or seven.
Two and a half?
Like, again, call the banker.
We're doing a second one here on the bucks.
I love the bucks in this game, don't you?
I like the bucks here too.
Although I might wait and live bet when they go down 14-0,
then Baker leads them back in the fourth quarter to win
because that's what he's done just about.
every week.
It's true.
But yeah, as we've said every week, I'm not a 49ers believer,
and I think the Bucks have been awesome this year.
Are you surprised the Chiefs are favored against the Lions?
They are at home.
What was it again?
Like a point?
It can't be much.
Two and a half?
That does seem a little high.
Yeah, I'll say I'm a little surprised by that.
Are your Titans going to beat the Raiders?
That's one of your few chances to win this year.
Yes, actually, I am picking my Tennessee Titans to win a second straight game
because the Raiders have fumble problems,
and if you fumble near the Titans,
they will turn it into a victory.
So we're going to get the dub, and we will be hot.
That's a good slogan.
If you fumble near us, we will recover it.
We can fall on the ball.
Excuse me.
If you fumble it, then one of you kick it,
and then another one of you kick it,
then we'll fall on it.
Two Monday night games again.
I don't like it.
What's that about?
I don't like it.
They do it like three or four times a year.
But why?
What's the thought process?
I don't know.
one of them's Bill's Falcons
I kind of thought those two teams
never played each other
It's a rare match
I want you to think about
Have you ever seen the bills play the Falcons
In Atlanta
I don't have a memory of one
I didn't even know Josh Allen
Had been to Atlanta
I didn't even flown through it
I can't think
You know I can think of most games
That occur
I can think of one time it happened
I'm sure there are some I can't
But in general, but two teams have been around a long time.
I can't think of a scenario where the Bills played the Falcons.
And now they're celebrating it.
And on Monday night football.
Head to head.
Yeah.
Is it your bears?
You got one for Bill's Falcons?
No, I was just going to say when ESPN agreed in 2021 with Disney over the football games,
they received extra game inventory, and that's what they've decided to do is overlap.
And they decided to bring in Bill's Falcons for the extra inventory?
Well, that's nice.
That when they went to 18 games, it was a combination of those things.
Okay.
The other game's a good one, Bears Commanders.
This, of course, was the game last year with the Hell Mary.
The Hell Mary game.
And it was about this time in the season.
I believe the Bears had started 4 and 1.
We're 2 and 2 this year.
But I believe we started 4 and 1, maybe 3 in 1, and then we lost the Hail Mary game.
I still remember where I was.
I threw a chicken wing at someone.
that I knew.
I didn't throw it in a stranger.
This is the repeat of it.
Did the Bears get revenge?
This really changed the trajectory of both team seasons last year.
In a big way.
I'm going to lean, no.
If this were in Chicago, I would take your Bears in a little bit of an upset.
But I don't have them getting it done in Washington night game.
They'll be fired up.
I'll take the commanders here.
But I'll say bears keep it close.
What's the spread?
It's four and a half.
I'm going to say we win.
I'm going to say we win.
This is the Caleb breakout game.
This is the game he needs.
He goes and gets the win against Jane Daniels, who played much better than him the first year.
This is his game.
Drake May's had his game.
Bo Nix has had his game.
Jane Daniels obviously had that season.
This is the game where Caleb goes, okay, this fearsome forsome is actually a forsome.
And I'm going to take my bears to get the win.
I think they can do it.
I get a few bears jokes off, but I have belief in them.
It's tough division, but I think the bears have turned it around and Caleb Williams has something.
I've hated the commanders since I was a little kid for no reason other than the fact that my
fact that my friend Trevor liked them.
We all had those relationships growing up.
And Trevor and I don't even talk all that often now.
And when we do, it's never about the NFL.
Matter of fact, I don't even think he knows I do this podcast, even though he's the biggest NFL fan
in the world.
Trevor, if you're listening,
just send me a text that says you're listening.
I don't think you got an hour and three minutes through it,
even if you did.
But there's no reason for me to still hate the commanders because of Trevor.
Trevor lives in Birmingham.
I don't ever see him.
He's moved on with his life.
I don't even know if he still watches the team.
He was very mad when they changed the name.
Still breaker for him.
Yeah.
I still really want us to win.
just in case that smug little ass Trevor decides to call me.
Drew, I feel like that's fair.
The grudges we hold from the teams we pick when we're six years old.
I have a few of those.
Do you?
I have a friend that I grew up with him.
His favorite teams are Alabama football, Duke basketball,
Green Bay Packers, New York Yankees.
See, he can't do that.
I know that sounds made up, but those are his teams.
That's not fair.
You can't do it.
From Western Kentucky.
Those are his teams.
And then he roots for what?
Kentucky basketball.
No, Duke basketball.
Okay.
You can't do that.
You are not allowed to pick any form.
You cannot say Alabama than Duke or Kentucky and the Yankees.
That threesome is not allowed.
And he throws on the Packers and he's from Western Kentucky.
Yeah.
Not even near any of those places.
You have to do what I do.
All right.
I root for the Cincinnati Reds, the Chicago Bears,
the New York Knicks and the Carolina Hurricane.
And we've won one thing in 35 years.
And it was the Carolina Hurricanes.
That's it.
That's character.
That sounds miserable.
I love losers also.
You're what?
Tennessee.
You're what?
Tennessee and what?
And then the Braves.
They won a World Series recently.
I don't think the Braves are losers.
They've won a bunch.
But I don't really care about them as nearly as much as the Titan.
The Titans are kind of.
I'm four different.
cities. I picked four different cities and picked four losers.
No one's accusing you of being a runner.
Alabama Duke, Green Bay Yankees. That guy stinks.
Well, Billy, anything else? Did I miss me?
Do we want to do TD parlay this week?
Oh, we did our TD parlay.
All right now, Billy leads 2-1-1.
Remember, we can pick, he got Jackson Dart the last time we did this and got it right.
Big winner plus 365.
That's a big hit for a touchdown.
So you can get either running back, wide receiver tight-in, or quarterback.
Drew, it's now your turn to go first.
You cannot pick Najoku, Chase, or Nico Collins.
Who do you want?
I'm going to go.
I don't think he's, yeah, he did score last week.
I'm going to take the easy, the heavy favorite.
He's probably like minus 200.
I will go with Seekwon Barkley since I get first.
Seekwon.
All right.
So you're taking a running.
him back, he's going to take
Sequin. That means, Billy, you have to either
pick a wide receiver or a quarterback. You have
picked McCaffrey, Jonathan
Taylor, and Jackson Dart. So who would
you like? Okay, I am going to pray
on the Bad Ravens Pass
defense. Give me Devante Adams
to score a touchdown
in Baltimore this week.
You all pick the random ones. It's interesting to me.
I tend to pick stars. So you take
a wide receiver. That means I got to take a quarterback.
So I already have
not, I've already taken Hertz.
Lamar, Lamar's hurt, so I can't take him.
Flacko.
So I'm going to sit here.
Oh, that would be something.
Flacko.
Fico and Green Bay.
I think I should take Flackerel.
I got to look up the odds on Flacco.
That would be, Flacco would be a heck of a pick.
I'm going to take Daniel Jones against the Cardinals.
Danny Dimes, I think he's going to run one in.
And I will take Daniel Jones against the Cardinal.
So if you did a parlay, if you would like the cover zero parley, which is yet to hit,
Sequin, Devante Adams, Daniel Jones.
You probably can get some good money on that, I would think, don't you think?
Yes, and I will be parlaying it because this is my favorite way to bet.
Yeah.
And Flacco is plus 1,500 to score.
Oh, I love it.
That's crazy for an anytime touchdown.
If Flacco scores, that will be pretty impressive.
All right?
Well, thank you all very much.
You are off to Colorado, right?
Yes.
I'm going to be doing a late one.
I'm landing at the airport in Lexington, late Sunday night,
and coming straight here to knock out the next episode.
We'll be back Sunday night.
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