KSR - NFL Cover Zero: Radio Row Day 1- Steve Johnson, Terrell Davis, and Mike Golic Sr.

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin being their Super Bowl Week on Radio Row!  UK legend and Fmr NFL WR Stevie Johnson drops by unexpectedly before 2x Super Bowl Champ Terrell Davis talks about playing in this game! Why does he think clothes and food are a waste of money?  Mike Golic Sr. remembers his radio days with Matt and looks at the Seahawks/Patriots matchup!  Stay tuned all week with NFL Cover Zero broadcasting from Radio Row at the Super Bowl!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I-Heart podcast. Welcome, everybody. It is NFL Cover Zero. And we are live from Radio Row at the Super Bowl, Super Bowl 60 in San Francisco. And I have to tell you, I never thought that I would be at the Super Bowl.

And not only are we here, we are here with the. NFL and it is a surreal scene. If you've never been to Radio Row, basically every media outlet you can think of is here with the biggest names in the sport all over the country, all over the world. I'm looking right now at something called the Irish NFL show, which is a group of people from Ireland that do a show. Nice. Every major network, every major person, and Drew, me, you and Billy as well. What a cool day and really looking forward to what's to come. Yeah, we're

just getting started and I've already had the time of my life. I mean, we haven't even been here 24 hours and if we just got on a plane right now and went home, I would be like, that trip was amazing. It was awesome. And we haven't even scratched the surface of what we're going to be doing yet. We haven't even been in the building that long. Yes, it has been, well, let's just start with when we walked in the door.

We walked in the door immediately and you said I almost knocked out Joe Flack I don't think. See, you were looking right. Joe was looking left. Neither one of you saw each other. And before we were 10 steps in the building, we almost had a collision with you and Joe Flacco. But it set the tone for the celebrity sightings. We'd see every couple of feet. Well, Joe Flacco needs to watch himself. You would have lost. He was a lot taller than I. I mean, I knew he was tall. He was a big dude. Nice handsome jaw line. Yeah, his kids with him. So you almost trampled one of the classes. I wasn't going to trample the kids. But Joe Flacco has to learn. This is NFL comfort zero, right? Yeah, you're locked in. He may be a Super Bowl champion, but we are on the podcast. Walking around, have you seen a Joe Flacco set? No, but I've seen a cover zero set. So you're in our world, Joe. It's exactly right.

Now we're sitting here and we're kind of looking out onto the world. You just said, just to give an example of what you might see here, like you were just saying that was Sean Merriman. Yeah, lights out. I hit him with the dance. There's a Buffalo Bills. That's probably a Bill's player, I would assume. That's Stevie Johnson.

Steve. He got loose. In the building. He's here. You got to pop up for a second, Stevie. Wildcats, go cats. Joining us out of nowhere. The man, the myth, the Kentucky, and the Buffalo Bills legend,

Stevie Johnson, my man, Stevie got loose. How you doing? My guys, hey, I love it. I saw all the wings up. I saw all the blue cap, and I was like, no, it's got to be family. So I love it that we got to connect right here. You have to understand, Drew. Drew knows this.

This dude, is it the most famous catching modern UK football history? Stevie, just 24 hours ago, someone asked me, what's your favorite UK game of all time? They didn't say basketball, football. They said game. And I replied, Stevie got loose as my number one. I think it's the best. I think it's the most exciting UK football moment of my lifetime. And, yeah, mine's also.

I mean, that sparked everything. You know, that sparked everything for the Lexington community, I would say. because as you know, the year before, we got dominated by Louisville. Yes. They dominated. And they were big favorites coming into that game. Yeah, they were huge favorites. So we had a chip on our shoulder.

You know, we had the community and Commonwealth at our back. And, yeah, Stevie got loose. How did you get loose? Well, I actually seen it the play before. So the play before that, there was a penalty, I believe. And the guys wasn't covering me. The safety stayed on Jacob Tammy, and we ran four verts. And I went back to that.

I said, Dre, is there. Just look at me. I'm telling you it's there. So we got the penalty. Nobody was worried about the penalty. Pillarly was on. Jarman. No, not Jeremy.

No, it was on your office. Scott. Eric Scott. It was on Eric Scott. Yes. And nobody was upset at East Scott either because he was protecting Dre. I was upset. Yeah, everybody else.

But I mean, like, us on a team in the huddle, we knew. We was like, oh, it's all good. And the playmakers, we knew. So then, like I told you, I told Dre, we went back out there, and they did the exact same coverage. And it was money. That is the, loudest I ever remember Commonwealth Stadium being.

Oh, the stadium was shaking. I felt like it was shaking. And the only time I felt that was my first 100-yard game against Arkansas with McFadden. That was a great game, too. That was a great game. Now, when you scored, we win the game, and then it has become like your thing in Lexington, Stevie got loose. It started from us because one of my drunk friends was in the parking lot.

And he goes, Matt Jones, Stevie got loose. And then we just went with it. Yo, that's amazing to hear that story and to be here with you all today. How random is that? Yeah, it's pretty special. There's one more thing you left behind in Lex and not just Stevie got loose. Before big games, I still turn on the locker room rap. It's about hustle and heart.

Power, respect. There it is. Hustle and heart. Dedication is a must. If you ain't got that part, then your soul is weak meat for Wildcats. We're about to get it popping like Joker from way back. It's way more than touchdowns. Sacks and field goes, y'all.

We got a study. You are working, live strong. UK will live on, but yeah, we here. It's our turn we're about to take over for this year, yeah. We got the whole town yelling big blue. It's true. I've heard baby yelling this too. Oh boy, UK, let's make some noise.

Let's break these boys and have our crowd jump for joy. It ain't just about putting on this white and blue. If one fight, then we all start fighting too. We like a crew. Better yet, call us a fan. There's no eyes on this team because we all are the man. Now, let's go. 20 years and he still knows the worst.

Let's go L's down. 20 years still knows the worst. It's ingrained. Before you get out of here, I know you got to go. I also got to say you got the catch in the LSU game too. Yeah, yeah. People don't even think about that.

People don't think about it. Over time. Yeah, and something interesting about that. So I had that same play the year before again in Death Valley. And Zon stopped it. And he said, you ain't getting an inch, inch. I couldn't say nothing. I can't say nothing.

I'm like, respect. Y'all blowing us out, ball thrown out of bounds. Year after, I remember that. What about that here? Dickie Lines got that game. He knocked, he said hello to his friend. Shout out to 12. That's my guy.

I'll be seeing him in a couple of weeks. He's coming out to San Diego. And I'm going to let him hear this, man. Big shout out to that. Stevie, it's great to see you, man. It's great to see you. You're looking great. Stevie Johnson, just randomly popping in.

Wings up. Wings up. got loose wings up b b b b in for life a shout out ray davis dion walkie and mad max out there on the buffalo bills let's go let's go well that was completely right amazing see that's what happens on on radio row you can just see stevie johnson and he can rap like it was 2007 for those of you that are not kentucky fans you're going to be like what in the world was that who cares that was awesome i'm not going to have a bucket list after this we're just checking stuff off doing that halftime rap with stevie johnson that that's high remember those words i'm not i'm not i'm not i remember those words i'm not i'm

I sing it regularly. Like to this day, I still sing it. That's why that was so cool him doing it. Also, not to be weird. I have a framed picture of him in my office. You know, just a big Stevie Johnson fan. Let me live. A picture of him in your office.

That game is number one on my every. They played at night, Saturday night. I started tailgating Friday at noon in the parking lot and went straight through tailgating all the way to that game. We get the ending we got against Louisville. For a Kentucky fan, Stevie getting loose. It doesn't get better than that. I hope people who are not UK fans enjoyed that, but if you didn't, I'm sorry.

I don't care because that made me so happy to see Steve. But our point was what Radio Row is, that's it right there. You got to hear it naturally. Yeah, Bill's legend. I'm sure a lot of NFL people know him, but we know him twofold with the Kentucky connection. You're wearing the UK hat. And from a distance, I saw him kind of glancing and I hit him with his touchdown celebration. And he just sprinted over here.

He knew we were legit with the hat and the fly guy celebration. I don't think he had Tom Billy to be here, but it didn't matter. he did it anyway. Well, he ripped off the Buffalo hat, and then he had a Kentucky State hat, like, all ready to ready to go. That was great. That was great.

So this is an awesome, awesome environment, awesome place. There are literally, everyone's there, Stephen A. Smith doing his radio show right down there where we should probably pop in and say hello to him. I'm sure he'd want that. Well, I think he's waiting for us to get over there.

We'll get there in a minute, Stephen A. Steve. We had the other Stevie. He's a lot better. No offense to you, Stephen A. So, so we're here. for the next three days. We're going to be doing a Super Bowl preview. Kind of.

I mean, we're excited about the Super Bowl, but we're going to be talking to people. Today, just today on the show, we have a massive list of superstars coming on. Incredible. The fact that we're leading off with a two-time Super Bowl winner, with a Super Bowl MVP, a Hall of Famer, Gold Jacket.

Yes, we know, Terrell Davis is on our list. Then Mike Golick, Sr., and then Sean Alexander. all joining the show today. That's a pretty good guess. That's not small time names. I thought us being new, kind of, not kind of the rookies around here, still getting our feet underneath us. I thought they would just send us like the third string kicker from the Vikings. Yeah. No. Torel Davis right out of the gate. Time players. Terrell Davis, Mike Golick, and Sean Alexander. And so people understand they come through. Now, you're going to hear, because we're going to leave this set we're on. And by this set,

this table that we're sitting at that Billy put together. Billy, did you put this table together? I got the equipment working on the table. And this equipment Billy has is from, I think, 2006. Okay? So you're going to hear this and you're going to be like, that sounds like 2006. But then we're going to be moving here in just a moment to another set,

which is the official NFL set, where I'm going to guess the microphones sound better and the interviews sound crisper. But just so you know, it's almost like a metaphorical transition. in life from us as podcasters to us as NFL hosts. And the emails we've been getting, they mentioned a set. One even said the chairs are comfy.

I didn't know what it was going to be branded with our names on the stage. I didn't know that Adam Levine was going to be sitting over there. That's Kelvin Jimstone. They got two sets for us. Adam Levine is Maroon 5. Right? Did I say Adam Levine? Yeah.

He could be here. Adam Devine. Right. That's kind of like Adam Levine. Maybe Adam Levine's here too I call him Kelvin Jimstone Yeah let's call him by his real name Kelvin I do think when I walked up to him and started talking

And I said I love your show is my favorite show I'm not sure he thought new I think he thought I meant the workaholics With the word of hogs true I was talking about the righteous Jimstones Because then I said you know Keith And he looked at me like But he still took a nice picture with us

I thought for sure You were going to sing a baby Billy verse To him and I was so excited I didn't know in that moment if you were ready. I will tell you, if Walton Goggins walked up here, we'd be misbehaving. I'd be running around, I'd be run around the house with a pickle in my mouth. That will get us kicked out of here. What? Terrell Davis and I are going to run around with a pickle in our mouth. But so we are going to, we're going to do these interviews and

then we will come back and sort of talk about the latest news and all that. So get ready. Terrell Davis, there's, there's Sean Alexander. He's going to be coming back with us in just a few minutes, Terrell Davis, Mike Goick, and Sean Alexander, and then more as we are live here in San Francisco, live to us, not to you listening. This is the NFL cover zero. Let's go ahead. Let's get started with TD. Our first big guest of our week, Drew, we're ready to go. And how about starting with a Hall of Famer and a Super Bowl champion? Terrell Davis, when I watched you run, I used to think football seems to hurt. I don't want to play because if I had to hit that man, I would not be able to walk after. It is an honor to have you

sitting here with it. Well, I appreciate it. I don't know what I did. Football does hurt. Does it hurt now? Well, I am feeling a little, no, not a little bit. A lot of the impact. I am paying my dues now. But you look like you can still play, I have to say. No, I appreciate

that. Thank you very much. And did you intentionally match Billy there with the quarter zip? That's true. Oh, the quarter of hips. Look at this. My man. But I think he's got a nice, he's he has a nicer zipper on it. Well, his is a reversible. Reversible, too.

Oh, great. We think that's kind of lame. Do you like the reversible thing? Terrell, you can decide. You can say no. It's all right. I mean, I like the two for one, brother. I like the, I like, shoot.

I mean, you're thinking about his packing, right? His packing is a little lighter, man. That's exactly. Two for one? I like that. That's exactly what he thought. I believe in, you know, buying clothes anyways. He has a waste of money, man.

Waste of money. Oh, clothes is the number one. Food and clothes are the two biggest waste of money. money item. Food is a waste of money. Oh, big time. What would you use money for? Not food and clothes. So what? A travel. Okay, travel. Okay. There you go. But

when you get there, you're not going to eat. Golf? You're going naked, not eating. No. Terrell Davis travels naked and doesn't eat. There you go. I don't need to eat. The problem with eating is you eat so you eat right now. In two hours, you're going to be what? You're going to have to eat again. Exactly. So what you do, just wait $400

on a steak? That's an interesting theory. I mean, You always have to keep feeding it. I know. There is no content. That is kind of how. So you look up and you're like, man, I just spend $6,000. I'm still hungry.

That is kind of how all forms of life have sustained themselves over the year. I'm just saying, man, like you really think about it. Food is the biggest waste of money. I didn't have him go with the fasting take here, but, you know, I support it. Terrell, it's great to see you here. Do you, what do you think of? I mean, you played in these Super Bowls. When you see something like this,

What do you think of this entire media radio row experience? I love it. I love it, man. I see the Super Bowl 32 banner right there on the side. That brings back memories. I'm from San Diego in the plan, my first Super Bowl in San Diego. So that was an experience that I just couldn't have dreamed of, and we won the game, which made it even better.

When you ran out on the field for that first game, I mean, there has to be a moment. Are you sitting there thinking about all the things that got you there, or are you just locked in totally on the game? All right, they tell you that it's a normal game. Or you try to convince yourself it's a normal game. But the minute you go out on pregame, you realize quickly this is not a normal game. And so what you try to do is try to look for familiar things

to bring your breathing down and just try to make yourself comfortable. So I was able to go out there and just like, hey man, the field is still 100 yards. Like start looking for things that I was familiar with. You know, they only have 11 guys on defense. Nothing's different about those things. Once it starts, are you able to block all that out?

Yeah, yeah, once it starts. But it's the pregame because you see all the media credentialed. You see, you know, the blamp, you see like, I mean, the colors, the different, I mean, the sidelines are packed like 40, 50 different national, you know, nations and TVs. So it's, and then celebrities are all over the place you see it. And so then once you come between the lines, you try to remind yourself, all right, man. We've done this for, I don't know, 18 weeks, man. It's the same thing. Let's just stay in the moment and just look at this thing, play by playing,

and then worry about situations as they come up. Well, that moment worked out for you twice, and once you were the MVP, how much now further on in life, does being a Super Bowl champion in that honor kind of take on your identity and really be who you are? Does that carry it with you being the Super Bowl champ? Does that add another layer? Nobody cares.

My kids don't care. You're still a lame dad regarding it, no matter what. So here's what I realize that none of that stuff even matters. Man, when you have kids and they get older and they don't respect you, they don't do things in the house that you ask them to do, they don't care that you have a gold jacket. They don't care. So if they don't clean up after themselves, you're not like, look, I won a Super Bowl MVP.

I play with John Elway and I won the MVP. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They're still label there. I leave the house, man. I got people that, hey, great, Superboy MVP, TV, can we do this?

I walk in them doors. And it's like, I have to try to establish myself as, you know, I have to build some credibility amongst them in the house, which is weird. And so the other thing, too, is like this time of the year, which is cool. And so, like, when they put a stat on TV, we're watching the Super Bowl or something, they might put up a stat that says, hey, you know, most Russian yards since Terrell Davis or they're a short chart. And that's when I get a chance to be like, see, I told you guys.

You see that right there? I will pause it, you know, take a picture of it, start saluting them, teaching them the salute. Yeah, but then they go like, Dad, well, you were no Derek Henry. You know what? Derek Henry would have kicked your tail. Yeah, like when Sequin broke my record last year, they were giving me some trouble. The NFL's changed since you were in the league, just in terms of how offenses run. Yeah.

I mean, it is a lot more fast-paced, a lot more throwing. What do you think a player like you, if you played today? How does that go? It wouldn't have benefited me today. It would not. No, I wouldn't have had an opportunity really to carve my niche in today's football. And let me explain. They don't, the running game is, it is a very, it is a very expensive thing to have time wise, you know, commitment, you know, resources to the running game.

And you don't, you need to hit. You need to, you need to physically go out there and hit. need to be able to see timing and mesh points and stuff. The league on it, you have a limited amount of practices, a limited amount of padded practices. You have to simulate things. You have to do a walk-through when you have a run game, and that's not how we built a running game. I like that you, though. I appreciate that about you, that you're actually, like, honest and going, look, my style was for my era.

Yeah. And this is a different era. I feel like you would have found a way to get yourself on the field, though, and contribute. Yeah, I'm a football player. Yeah, you were, you wouldn't. I'm going to find a way to, but it wouldn't have been as a scatbacker. I don't know, safety, a deep, a linebacker. You could have been Derek Henry.

Now, let me ask you about the other TD.com. Yeah. You always, when you were playing, people would say TD touchdown, Terrell Davis. What about this, T, this is a sort of a disorder and issue that you have strong feelings about? I do, man. It's called Tartop dyskinesia. And what it is, it's basically a, um, it's basically a, um, a. chronic condition that is caused by taking certain prescription mental health medications.

And so normally it's like an antipsychotic or antidepressant that can cause really uncontrollable movements in your face, your hands, your toes, and your torso. And so you're trying to treat one thing and you're getting this sort of, you know, condition that's coming. And a lot of people don't even know it. And so for me, I've experienced my own mental health. and chronic conditions. I know for me, medication was an option. And so I can imagine being there and having these movements and not knowing what to do. So I just want to raise awareness,

use my platform, and raise awareness to people who are out there who are experiencing this condition while taking certain prescription mental health medication. And if that's the case, please go to the othertd.com or consult your health care professional. How do I pronounce the T. Tardive. Tardive. Tardive. Dyskinesia. Disconnesia. Well done. Torel, you've been a lot of fun, and I have to tell you, you're the first person I've ever met to take the position of, I want no food. I don't think we need it. I didn't want to say, you don't want to pay for it. Free food. No, no, no, that's not true. What I'm saying is I'll take, all right, for example, I'll go to Chipotle. Yes. And get a $13 bowl while you go across the street and pay $200 for a meal.

So you want the Chabot? We are both going to be full. And in two hours, we both are going to be hungry. Right? Okay. It makes sense. 200 bucks. I spent $13.

So you're going to spend the $13. You damn right. That's my man spending the $13. Terrell Davis, thank you very much. All right, I'm a sucker for people who know radio. And when you think radio, this man is it. Mike Golick does shows, as done shows for years and is a radio pro. Mike, thank you very much for joining us.

Oh, my pleasure. Is that a nice way of saying I'm old? No. Well, let me tell you and I have a history. So I've worked at ESPN Radio for eight years. First day, they flew me up to Bristol. I do Sunday mornings. Right. Dan, I used to do it with my, I do with Meyer Metcalfe used to do it Dan Rolofsky. Oh, okay. They would put us in your old Mike and Mike studio. First day I get there, I sit down and as soon as I sit there, the chair breaks. Like as soon as I sit down and it's the chair you usually would sit in. I thought you were going to say there was like a half-eaten donut there or something. No, although I did sometimes see your leftover food there. I would sit in your chair on Sunday mornings, and when that chair kind of broke, they were like, Mike's not going to like that. And I go, well, do you want me to pop? I got freaked out because it was my first day at ESPN. I was like, I don't want to upset Mike Golick.

What are they trying to put the fear of God of you for? I think they were messing with me. So I've always had that, I broke Mike Golick's chair on the mic and Mike said. I wondered why it never really worked after. You can break that chair right there if you want to get even. I was going to say, yeah. We were talking about this the other day. You did morning radio, six to ten.

Is that right? How did you get up like that every day? I swore every morning. The alarm went off at 4.15. And I said a bad word. And then I would get to work by five. And, you know, as you guys know, the day just starts. You know, you're looking at notes.

You're going over highlights. or you're getting ready for the especially when the show went on TV as well, and you had to deal with highlights as well. You just start to get caught up in it. And the great thing was was I was done it. The show was done at 10. I was done for the day at 11 o'clock. What times you have to go to bed, though?

And you had to go to bed early, and watching Monday night football was tough. I would get up the next morning and watch the compressed highlights. Okay. Of it to try and get caught up. Because you'd have to go to bed early, but it did give me the opportunity. to be a lunch dad at my kid's school and coach them and all their Little League stuff,

which was like in the late afternoon. And I was home by 11 o'clock every day. So there were some pros. But the cons is I lost out on about 10 years of sleep. We get this list, Mike, of all the people that are going to be here, that we're going to be interviewing. And our man, Billy, next there, he got the most excited when he saw Mike go. He really did.

He was like, was it me or for my son, Mike? No, no, for you. For you? It was you I was listening to in the mornings. I was working on golf courses. When you were a kid? Yeah, when I was a kid, you're doing Mike and mine. See, I wasn't going to do that to you.

He's doing it to you. You were like seven, right? No, no. I was like 15, 16 is my first job. I was mowing rough at a golf course and I'd listen to Mike and Mike because it was an early job. So you had to get up. So it's a pinch me moment to be here with you, Mike.

Oh, I appreciate that. But I want to ask you, how rewarding was it to be to do this with your son? For him to get in the industry? I mean, was that a, you mean a lot to you? It's very, yes. Yeah, I probably would not be doing the show every day unless it was with my son. I would probably do and be more part-time stuff, calling games for Westwood won, which I've been doing for a few years.

But I try not to take it for granted that when the mic goes on, it's my kid there and we're doing the show together. I would like him to respect me a little more and bend at the knee a little bit more. Do you all fight a lot? But we disagree more than I thought. He has, oddly enough, he has his own thoughts. and he expresses them. Well, I mean, you're used to that.

No, I am. You and Greenberg sometimes did that as well. And I live by the same credo I did with Greenie. And actually, Tony Bruno was the first co-host I had, is if they disagree with something on air, you never take it off air. Okay. That's the same thing with my son.

We could disagree with things on air, but there's no reason to take it off air. I didn't know you worked with Tony Bruno. Tony Bruno was actually the first one of the ESPN radio. You should tell that guy I have an opinion. now. He doesn't tell you. He struggles, doesn't he? I was worked with him for a year. I showed up one day and he was gone. And I'm like, oh my God, what do I do now? He was just gone? He was gone. And they didn't tell you?

No. Oh, he didn't tell ESPN. Oh, he just left. No, he just left. He was gone. And that was in October of 99. It took three months of me working with with potential new co-host before it was greeny. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about at this football game. You got Seahawks, Patriots. I've said that you don't see stories like Sam Darnold in football. I wonder if Sam Darnold's story says, hey, there's a lot of guys that could be good if they got with the right team out of college. And if they got a chance.

One of the reasons he is where he is because he was the number three pick overall, you are always going to get a chance somewhere. If he was a fifth rounder, he'd have been done. he'd have been out of the league. Once he failed at a couple of spots, he'd have had to have another job. But when you're a high pick, because that money was invested in you, you're going to get a chance somewhere. And to his credit, he has overcome and he is playing extremely good ball. And on the other side with New England, there's another throwaway. I'm a Titans fan and seeing Mike Brable's success is killing me. How bad did we mess up in Tennessee? Oh, you messed up bad. Yeah, I know. I'm wearing a titan shirt right now. It hurts me.

I just, Mike Vrabel is my Peloton name. It's bike Vrable. I love Mike Vrable so much. Your Peloton name is bike Vrable. I'm so conflicted on his happiness and my Titan's sadness. I mean, I want him to do well, but I know we messed up bad. Yeah, yeah. Bike Vrable?

You know, there's just, I know, I'm a little worried about that. It's all right. People think I'm him, actually. He's got terrible stats on there. Yeah, yeah. A four minute ride. I'm amazed at the lack of patience. obviously not like a Pittsburgh Steelers or Baltimore

with the two coaches. They lost it 19 and 18 years, but it does amaze me how quickly you give up and think the grass is going to be greener somewhere else. Sometimes it is, right? Sometimes guys get a head coaching job and they're not supposed to be head coaches, but he clearly is a head coach.

With this game, I mean, it seems like most people just assume the Seahawks are going to win. You know, the Patriots, I think they have a very good shot. And I think Drake May, it has not played well in the playoffs, but it had such a great season. I could totally see, I think people are too quick to dismiss their chances. Well, I mean, he just has to hang on to the ball. Too many fumbles. He had fumbles in the regular season as well.

He runs a ball well. I called the Denver New England game where the second half became a muted offense because of the snow. And he basically went with his legs. It was very impressive with his legs. as far as throwing the ball, he's got obviously Stefan Diggs, Hunter Henry, but I don't worry as much about him as I praise the Seattle defense. The Seattle defense is stifling. But now remember this New England offense average about 29 points a game during the regular season.

They have the ability to score, but they need a rock fight here. They need it to be a low-scoring game. and their defense needs to step up as well, which is a very good defense, by the way, in New England. They get short-changed a little bit in the postseason because New England faced some of some of the top defenses in the post season. We're obviously here on podcast, but I do want you to talk for a second about doing live radio four hours a day.

In my opinion, that's the hardest thing to do in sports. To sit there because you can't like hide. No. You know what I mean? You can't like throw to graphics. No? Like it is, you don't. just have to go and if there's nothing to talk about you got to talk anyway yeah oh yeah it there are

especially out of the football season as you guys would know it gets a little more deep uh difficult june july can be a little difficult that's when you start to do uh mount rushmore lists oh my goodness you get a million of us yeah yeah uh you miss bristol uh no i don't really miss bristol i i miss ESPN and the setup there, but I don't really miss Bristol. But to your point, it can be damning when you have a guest and the guest flakes on you. Oh, my God. Or when you have a guest, they know anything to say. And they have nothing to say.

It's exactly right. It could get, and especially for four hours. You're looking, there are many a days, listen, I did it for so long where you look at your watch and you're going, oh, my God, I got three and a half hours left. Is doing a show with one person, four hours a day? Is it like a marriage? Well, I mean, you have to have a connection. You have to have chemistry.

And Greenie and I had it right out of the gate. We had really good chemistry. Yeah, there has to be that. There has to be, it's kind of like in the booth, doing a game, TV or radio. You got to kind of have chemistry with the play-by-play guy to make it more conversational alike and not just you talk, you talk, you talk, you talk.

Same in radio. It can't just be the one person talking and then the next first talk. You have to be interacting. I did my first play-by-play game this year for ESPN radio. Dude. It's hard, isn't it? Oh, yeah.

I thought you all, I thought all you all were idiots that did it. I'm like, how are these people? Oh, my, it's the hardest thing. Oh, yeah. You're here on behalf of Stella. Tell me about that. Yeah, so I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes 20 years ago. And back then, you basically ate your meal, pricked your finger with a blood test

and saw what your numbers were and tried to go from there. Now, it's modern technology. Estello is a glucose bio sensor that you put on your arm. You can get it over the counter. You don't need a prescription for it and get it off Amazon. And you have an app with it and it gives you real-time numbers of how you're doing, you know, how sleep affects your glucose levels, how workouts do, how food does. And now in a couple of months, they're coming up with a smart food logging.

You're going to be able to take a picture of your meal and it will give you all the info on your meal. meal. So you know how many carbs you have, how many sugars you have? Like take a picture of it? Take a picture of your food. And it'll tell you how good or bad it is for you. It'll tell you, give you all. I can't do that. That would make me sad. I know. But for, I know, but it also helped you eat right. That's right. No. So again, Stella is for type two diabetics, pre-diabetes, and just those that are in the wellness center, want to know, feel, want to know what their numbers are. And now you get up to the, up to the date numbers. You look great. I feel great. I know for football players, sometimes it's,

hard. Yeah. Because when you get done, you're used to all that working out. You can't eat the same. And I did eat the same for a while. And I ballooned up to almost 320. I looked like a vanilla milkshake. It was horrible.

And then a few years after I was done playing, I was diagnosed with type two, and I knew I had to change my ways, my eating and Stella and the- And how do you just like walk around with your shirt off? Like you look at me? Not, not yet. I would love to be able to walk around with no shirt on, but I can't do that just yet. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that. Well, Billy just did it around here a few minutes ago.

Next year, Super Bowl 61. We'll be looking for it. Mike, thank you very much for your time. And we appreciate it. You got it. So there you go. Three big time interviews. Drew, I'm kind of surprised.

Like how easy it is to talk to those guys. We're off the main set now. They've kicked us off for another show. We're back to Billy's set. We're back to Billy's set. I don't know what the sound differential is, but you can tell we're now. back to 2006 and I enjoyed it.

I really like Sean Alexander a lot. Yeah, he was great. Really, not that I expect anyone to be jerks, but everyone was like so nice. Like I didn't think anyone were going to be rude, but they're over the top nice. Like even one of them were done, they don't just run off and go to the next one.

You know they have a busy day. Everyone has stayed around, chat a little bit, even starting with TD in the beginning. I'll call him. I had a blast talking all of them. I wish we could have had more time. TD and the QZ. I mean, that was the best way to start it,

me. Td and the what? The QZ, the quarter zip. Don't try to be. I will say it was pretty funny that we don't try. Don't try to start. Don't try to start. Billy, are you serious? There it is. Don't try to start slogans, Billy, like TD with the QZ. I need to know what happened with TD. Tony Dungy and Drew Franklin. Well, there, okay, so there's a couple interactions we need to go over. First of all, I've led to that I'll remember forever. Let's start with, let's start with Drew and Tony Dungey. So Tony Dungey grabbed you by the jacket and pulled on you and seemed to want your attention. And I watched this happen and I thought, why does Tony Dungey want to talk to Drew? And I was on an elevated surface.

I was up on the stage. He pulled in his jacket like a little child asking for candy. He pulled in his jacket and was like, Drew. And then he didn't know who you were because when you turned around the look of disappointment on his face. That had to hurt. Yeah, well, I was actually talking to Who's that person right there? He's famous, the guy with the face.

The one with the face right there. Yeah, I think he's a reporter. But what's his name? He's famous. I need to stop looking at it. Go ahead. Well, I was talking, I was already in a celebrity interaction

with Will Compton, and he goes, Tony Dungey wants your attention. And I was like, Tony Dongey said that? Yeah, Tony Dunn is. pulling on my shirt and when I turned around Tony's face was mortified like I do not know this human yeah it was clear he thought I was someone else and then he was like but I've been tugging

on this stranger's shirt committed he committed he committed to the bed Tony Dungeon was was shirt committed at that point I was like get off me Tony what can we possibly talk about and when we made eye contact he's like you'd seen a ghost he's tugging Tony he's never he's like I've never seen this human ever and I have nothing to say to him

tugging Tony will forever be noticed the guy who tugged on Drew hoping to get his attention. You know what? You probably thought I was Jeff Saturday. I get it a lot. Former player. I should have gone with it.

He did think. You know what? That's what I was trying to figure out. But you're not. Jeff lost on weight. Well, no, not lineman big, but I was on an elevated surface.

He thought you were Jeff Saturday. That's exactly who he thought he was. Tug and Tony thought you were Jeff Saturday. The only thing I can come up with because he was definitely wanting to have a conversation. Then the next thing that happened, I was there for this as well. We went to the rest of,

as people do. Sure. Quick break here. And Drew, Drew, I saw Derek Henry walk in the restroom. So the only three people at the urinals were me, Drew, and Derek Kim. And I could see on Drew's face that he wanted to talk to Derek Henry. Derek Henry is like his. Yeah.

Is your favorite player of all time? It's McNo-N-R-N-R-and-in- him, right? Yeah, that'd probably be it. And I knew he was in the building, so I've been, since we've walked in. I've been looking everywhere. I did not think we would be touching elbows at the urinal would be the moment I met Derek Henry. I can see on Drew's face, him being like,

I want to talk to Derek Henry, but I'm not sure I can with urinal things happening. Yeah, that's the one spot. And you didn't. Do you regret it? First of all, I've got to paint the scene. There were seven, eight urinals. Most of them open.

I still don't know why he was directly next to me. In hindsight, what made him walk to the one? I mean, he wanted you to talk to it. But there wasn't a gap urinal between us. I mean, we were basically just stating, well, we wouldn't be together. Derek Henry wanted you. He was hoping to have a conversation. I wish there had been a reaction or a camera on me because at first I was like,

why is this guy up on me? And I kind of just glanced to my left. And it was like, oh, crap. Just one second. Who are these two gentlemen in bounty sweaters? That is, I believe, Amun Ross St. Brown and Pena Sewell. Yeah. But why are they wearing bounty Mr. Rogers sweaters?

Because when Bounty says wear this and pay you, I'm sure they wear whatever. So that's Amon, St. Brown, and Penae Sewell? Definitely St. Brown. I believe it's Penae. How do you recognize Penae Sewell? No ball. Yeah. How many offensive linemen do you recognize by face?

Not a lot, but he's the very, I mean, he was taking, I mean, they took Jemar Chesa and head of him. So it was like a big thing, wasn't it? And their bounty wingman. By the way, bounty is the biggest sponsor here. There's their one. Bounty is the number one sponsor. I didn't know toilet paper had this level of sponsorship, but they do.

I prefer bounty, by the way. I thought the NFL and bounties were past that, but they're brought them back, cleaning up their image. Oh, stop. All right. So back to the urinal. Yeah, I mean, it was really a moment where I'm like, why is this guy up on me? This is an empty bathroom and his like elbow is hitting my elbow. And, you know, I kind of just look to my left, not down at an angle, up at an angle,

and say, oh my God, this is Derek Henry. and just straight down stare at the wall. Don't move. I cannot have a conversation in that moment. You understand? I think this was the chance. It would have been weird, but I think it's sad that this is like your favorite player

and you did not speak to him when you had a chance. But granted, it would have been weird. It is weird to have conversations in that context. This is a gigantic convention center. There's about five feet of area where I cannot speak to Derek Henry, and that's where we met. I can't change that. You could talk to him anywhere except the urinal.

So I just stared at the room. brick wall wondering what life was. That's a really good point. That's probably the only place you can't talk to him. But this has been lots of celebrity interaction. Who do you think has been the most random person you've run into here? You know, I like seeing the, because it's mostly athletes. I'm not used to it yet because I'm still wide out looking around, but I like seeing some of the celebrities that I didn't expect, like the workaholics crew that's across from us. So not that I'm not enjoying the athletes, but the random celebrities that I didn't expect to run into. It's been neat seeing them.

I also enjoy, and I'm not going to mention them. I enjoy Billy, the people that are walking around hoping someone will ask them to come for an interview. And then people don't. I get a little bit of, I find that interesting as well. Like, you feel bad for them? I mean, I don't feel bad. It's just like, I don't know. There are levels of media.

So we're on the outside. This is like the national media. Then there's local media. I feel like a lot of them should go in there. Because there are some people here. There are people from all over the country. There's like radio stations. I'm amazed at how many people make the trip and come out here.

Well, that sets up another story we have to tell you, your boy, Bill over here. Oh, yeah? Bill went and met the Bucks guy. Well, one of them. My hometown station, WDAE, is here, and so I went and said hi. Did you go ask for a job? I did not, because... Even better, though.

So I was like, yeah, let's exchange contact, big fan, you know, whatever. And he pulled out his own digital car. For people who are covered zero listeners only, you don't know that Billy has decided to be, uh, create a digital business card for this trip because I think he's trying to get other jobs. Mm-hmm. And he gave you a digital business. No, we both had one. He reversed uned you with your, with your business card. And I mean, he works for I heart and he was like, yeah, I heart's just been, everybody has to have their own digital business card.

I was like, that is not. Oh, I heart requires that? That's what he was saying. Well, they never required us to someone since. scan this QR code. There's so many creepy things that could be done with that. So did you all share info? We did. Yes. I thought you said it didn't work. It didn't work. I had to go back over there. His, oh, you went back. I went back. You went back for a second scan. I was like, dude, it didn't work, which is funny because they've been dogging me. You went back for a second scan.

Yeah. And this time it worked. It worked this time. Well, good for you, Billy. So we're going to, you know, go meet some more people after this. I mean, I don't, who knows who we're going to see. I'm with you. I'm starting to see a lot of media faces that I know, but I can't put a You laughed at me when I was staring at that guy. Now this one with the glasses in the, I mean, with the face. Yeah, that's a, that's a guy. That's a person too. Oh, that's Andrew from the Neapatrick show.

He's gone on and done his own thing. And it's Andrew and a chick. I forget her name. I couldn't have produced that, but, uh, Andrew what? Uh, Pearl North, Peronoff. What does he do? He was on the Dan Patrick show. He's one of the Danettes.

And now he's got his own show. Oh, now he has his own show. Billy's dream right there. That's who he needs to go. Yeah. Go give him here. Go get her QR code. That's his idol.

The guy who leaves the day and goes and does his own show. That's Billy's idol. You need to go medium. It's like the bad boy club over there. I actually think I follow that guy on Twitter. I see his face. I don't know why, but I think I do. Well, it has been an excellent first day here.

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