Kump - 107 - Of Musk and Men

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss Elon Musk, Twitter, The Air Force, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Get your Kump Hand merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Just drinking some red bowl.

Refreshing blueberry lemon seltzer. Not yet. Crazy days. It's crazy days in the Twitter versus and the metaverses. Alon Musk is apparently they've approved the Twitter board has approved his offer. The transfer of the sword. I don't think he has it yet. I think he's supposed to buy the shares, the transfer of the sword.

Yeah. Is that like a metaphor for something? I don't know. I just did like, I felt like it was. You think Al-Musk has a lot of swords? It's a kingly metaphor. Do you think he just gave, like he's buying? He's the king of free speech now.

Is he buying Twitter with swords, like expensive, valuable swords, jeweled swords, the sword of King Richard Lionheart? Oh, look, I'm sure that Elon Musk could afford a sword that would be a fair exchange for a company, at least. A $44 billion sword? Yeah. Is it excalibur? No, but like he could probably buy like, you know, a small, I don't know, coffee shop or something with a fancy sword. Well, well, yeah, I mean.

He could totally buy a sword worth like, you know, $3 million. Well, it's a far cry from a $44 billion company. Well, you get a bunch of them. To a little coffee shop. I mean, what kind of coffee shop are we talking about here? What kind of muffins they serve? I mean, three million. That seems like a lot.

The coffee shop in my hometown used to be like my Twitter. I hate a tiny version of Twitter. I hate the coffee shop in your hometown. I know you do. Where the old men predators just lurk. I don't like it. But you'd walk in there and I'll peeve all. And you get up the center of petroleum oil and rape.

But you'd walk in there and people would be saying a bunch of crazy shit and stuff. It would be like a kind of a mini version of Twitter. Yeah, like how old are you? Oh, that's too old. People would get into debates in there. Yeah. yeah what about the age of consent that's a that's a that's a brother's dead if I've ever seen one a layer that serves a layer that serves coffee welcome to your hometown when the nightmares never

stop anyway but yeah you think Elon Musk could buy that coffee shop with a with a jeweled sword yeah yeah for easily do you think when the lawn Musk buy the company he like cuts his hand like in Game of Thrones or something and goes like this is our blood packed yeah here is the womb of the lamb he's like oh and then just you know starts drinking his own blood going this is sexual in nature this is how I have sex first there's blood and then there's money and then comes the new freedom of speech people are losing their minds i mean alarm musk is talking a lot about why we're at a keyboard in front of me with nothing the keyboard you put this over you side it's driving me nuts even though i didn't notice it for the first five

minutes i can't have extra things i have too many drinks on the side here i can't have keyboards i'm smashing it people are losing their mind thank you people are losing their mind thank you people are losing their minds about the Twitter thing. So Alon Musk has talked about, I mean, I've heard these rumors. Excuse me, I don't know if they're true rumors, but apparently some of the things he wants to do is freedom of speech, whatever that means. I mean, I'm not saying like, oh, well, you have freedom of speech,

but you're just going to say, no, I'm all for freedom of speed. I think it is important. Yeah. And, you know, apparently people have been censored, not just for hate speech, apparently. I can't verify it because I just don't know. I'm sorry that I'm not aware. I mean, I say wild stuff on Twitter, but it's all very farcical. I'm sure there is some censoring go, you know, I'm sure Twitter is woke.

But he hasn't gotten into the specifics of how he's going to bring back free speech to Twitter. No, no, no, no. I don't believe he has. He's just talking about how important freedom of speech is. And that's what I'm saying. I don't know what that means When he says it Yeah

I mean Lex Friedman I saw was like This is a great day For freedom of speech And it's like All right We can we're allowed I mean it's like

We're allowed to call Scoop a divers Who Save Children Pedophiles That will be The Freedom of Speech we get And we're gonna have And it's gonna be We're gonna be super free to do that

Because if that guy says anything back to us You know we will We will purge him from the side We will destroy his livelihood, because it's all we now. Yeah. It's a very collective, even though it's his money. Yeah. It's a we.

We will call scuba divers pedophiles. We will manipulate stock prices and asset prices, willy-nilly and commit questionable pump-and-dump situations. We will promote Doge. and then drop doge and then promote it again. This is all covered in the First Amendment, I believe. It's all in the handbook. The right to pump and dump doge.

It's all in the handbook. It's all in the, is there hair in my mouth? I don't know. Look at my mouth. Open your mouth. No, on my mouth. Oh, on your. I shaved and like, yeah.

There's hair on your mouth. I mean, I'm eating hair right now. Oh, oh, there's loose hairs on your mouth. It's very, very disturbing. Yeah. I'm going to try to ignore it. I trim my beard and that is hair like somewhere. Yeah.

There was a bunch of hair just like a, like a barbershop floor's worth of hair on the, just sitting on the back of your neck at one point. Look, there's a process to which you cut hair for yourself. I know the pandemic for a lot of people may be over. Not for me when it comes to my hair. I trim my own hair and my own beard and I do my own grooming because I'm a maid man. Wait, what does that mean? I'm a made man.

I'm a goddamn Italian mobster. And I don't let no one touch this hair. No, but I'm a self-made man is what I meant to say. Well, you can afford for you to get a haircut. I can afford five haircuts. Yeah. You could get a nice fade. I don't want a face.

I don't want people to think that I'm trying to be some. kind of like a rap producer from the 90s, okay? I am just a man who enjoys cutting his own hair. I'm just, you know, I'm just yelling to the silence the hair in my mouth that I can taste. Back to Twitter. Elon Musk. I don't think we've yet established as we do whenever we bring up Elon Musk, that he is an enemy of the show.

He is a declared enemy of the show. but I'm willing to play ball if he wants to give me some money so I can be bought don't get it wrong don't get it twisted I can be co-opted for money so you know

let's talk yeah that being said I'm not a fan of his calling the scuba divers pedophiles and I'm not I mean his Worley bird helicopter they assume he has I'm not yeah

whatever I mean, I didn't get on the Doge movement. I didn't, I'm not a SpaceX boy. But, you know, I'm all for whatever freedom of speech means now, I guess. What is the, you know more about this than I do. Is the right being censored on Twitter? I mean, I think that, like, look, you could argue that people on the right, maybe at some point it became a barrage where they were getting like kind of targeted because the people watching them were predicting that they were going to say

something horrible. Like I think you could probably argue that like some people on the right were maybe unfairly targeted or like they didn't really violate the standards or maybe or maybe like people on the left, they let it go more often. It seems like more like, yeah. At first it was definitely like I think the intent of it was more like you can't just launch a harassment campaign of someone, you know, it's like you can't just targetly harass somebody.

Well, yeah, I think they get up to no good sometimes. some of these people who like you know but i don't the leftists are also very edgy you know they're very they say edgy things and they say aggressive things and like yeah i what i looked at john hinkley uh um he's like you know released from prison last year i guess or this year the man who shot ragan and also what was it john mid the brady because he's the brady bill yeah so this man who shot him for the love of jody for us yeah so the absolute love of the girl who played the teenage prostitute in taxi driver he had to have her and he knew how to get her and that's my shooting that son of bitch reagan right and so he came out and he's got this music now music yeah he's a musician and he's going i saw him post he's like oh my redemption tours what he calls it and countless people on the twitter uh were responding uh So, you know, so in common that you almost called, it has to be called hack,

because everyone's doing the same bit of, you have nothing to be redeemed for. You did the right thing. I look, I'm not a fan of Reagan. I think he denied AIDS and did some bad, you know, he did, look, a lot of stuff. But I don't think, you know, John Hinkley was right to shoot him. I think that shooting a president is objectively naughty. I think it's an objectively naughty thing to do. And so, you know, and these people are just very openly going, like, it's great that you shot a sitting president.

And I just have to say that, and that didn't seem to be a censor. So I can see why people think of double standards. Yeah, that probably shouldn't be allowed. Like cheerleading the attempted murder of a president, even if it happened, like, it didn't even happen that long ago. Well, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, how do you stop that? Right. I mean, they find, but they, you know, but they find ways to stop other things. And I'm saying it's better.

Should you, should you be censored from saying, I think it's good at you shot Reagan 40 years ago? Maybe not. You know, it's, like, that's free speech. Like, it's not really a call to violence. It's, you know, you can argue it encourages new violence, new violence. But, uh, but, uh, but it's just people like to act, like the left is not, uh, calling for people to be hurt. Look, yeah, I also think like these things that are kind of on the borderline, like whether it's coming from the left or the right,

my feeling on it has always been like, look, feel free to try and test the boundaries of what these platforms will allow. I think people have... I tweeted about covering my dad in gasoline today. Right, yeah. Yeah, they don't know that you're not, you know, they don't know that you're not serious. They don't know me at all. I'm not verified.

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm just under the radar, just saying things about my dad. And they're fine with that Yeah You know Hitting people with hammers I probably said something about that once I'll hit you with a hammer

No one censors me Right So I don't be I've also seen people on the right Get you know get frisky They get aggressive They get a You know

Look they like to You know Get confrontational So I don't know I think the left is good at playing possum Yeah And going Oh stop

It's like the NBA. We've been watching the NBA. We watched Kevin Durant collapse in the playoffs, four games in a row, swept by the Celtics. And this doesn't really apply to that series too much. But the NBA, you have plenty. I think we did see a couple plays where guys were just, you know,

flopping to these, you know, pretend, like, you know, when you watch the slow motion close up, it's like this guy's acting like, oh, my God, I've been hitting the face. And, you know, his face was six inches from the guy's elbow. Hmm. But he still gets to, you know,

gets the call and like the left is good at that they're good at you know at flopping um and they're good at having i think like the left is good as separating too like the right embraces their crazies right while the leftists will call them the democrats distanced themselves from that they can call that them having no integrity to their you know principles perhaps right the Biden democrats you know that the fact that they don't embrace the leftist percent yeah you can say that well they just have there's neo liberal shills and maybe that's true but they don't I don't think they gain anything from not embracing the crazy leftists well I think I think they gain that like you know the rich Democrats don't make a monster out of these people who want who who

want to tax them and want to have social change they want to the Democratic Party wants to play to dance and then go to France yeah but the right also seems you just right over that little rhyme I did. Wait, sorry. What did you do? I'm not going to do it again. I'll watch it on the rewatch. Yeah, you're going to be, wow. I'm a lyricist. Yeah. But like, you know, people like on the, I don't know, the, like, establishment right or whatever are also better at like kind of embracing the crazy people, but with like a certain degree of plausible deniability. Yeah. Whereas like the left, whereas like Nancy Pelosi and stuff will just straight up, like, attack the left's crazies.

What's what I'm saying? Yeah. They just dissing them. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They'll just dissing himself by, like, you know, wearing a, you know, popping their collar. Yeah.

No, they say, like, they write them all. They have this multi-tier thing. So cynically, you could argue that. I don't know. Yeah. But, like, look, Musk is going to shake it up. He's going to shake it up. And we're going to see what, you know, what comes to the bottom.

I feel like there is this trend where, like, whatever there's, like, kind of a new, I don't no, regime, a new, like, new media regime. We'd be, like, when Vietnam ended and the North took over, you know. Yeah, right. Yeah, imagine our social media platforms that way. Like, whatever. The fall of Saigon. Whatever there's, like, a new, you know, regime, the right kind of benefits from it for a little while,

because the draw of the new regime is always like, hey, you can say whatever you want here. Right. Right. But then usually. Fuck my mother. Shit, shit, cunt. Yeah. And they're like, wow.

Yeah. That's not what we meant. You can't say that. Yeah. Come over here. You can drop M-bombs. Like, you could do anything.

Who's doing that? What? What? The Facebook do that? What? I mean, that's always the, I feel like that's always the...

I mean, like, Pauler, right? Isn't Paula like some app like that? Where you get, like, you started by like, you know, the right, like the guys you can't kick no Twitter?

Exactly, exactly. But that's not, but no, but my point is, but my point is, if those things survive, it's usually because they break that promise in some way.

Oh, right. It's just not good for business to have all this, like, you know, like racism or whatever. Yeah, to have domestic terrorist groups forming on your platform. Like, I don't doubt that there's people being censored. I just, I don't understand how it works. And I don't trust a lot of the people who talk about it the most. I don't deny that something's going on. Because, you know, like Hollywood's left, Silicon Valley is like crazy left.

Like, you know, whatever they are. We want to call it tech left. Tech left is a thing. Whatever that is. It's not exactly, you know, Bernie Sanders. It's not exactly, you know, Jesus washing the feet of the poor. But it's something. And it's like, you know, if you want to call that, you know, billionaires just, you know,

just kind of agreeing on some kind of new social hierarchy. Yeah. I guess it's left. I don't know what that is. It's some kind of, it's some kind of digital eugenics. Yeah. you know but but musk is going to shape the world in his image and he's going to put an edit button on twitter so you can do that fun trick that people use to do on facebook where they they'll say

something uh you know benign like i like bagels and then uh everyone likes it and then uh and then you change you edit it to say like some racist thing and everyone's like but then you're still saying the racist thing so you know yeah but even if twitter does become like even if this you know It does become like, you know, Sodom and Gamora, like a Twitter video. Which one? Sodom or Gamora. Both at the same time. Just tons of.

With Sodom. Anil. What is Gamora? I think they're both just, you know. Was Gamora another town? Okay. Yeah. I always, you think of that because of Sodom was the town, right?

And then Gamora, but that's also a lot and like the daughters trying to have sex of them, right? Oh, yeah. Very controversial. Very controversial. Very weird. Yeah, they get it. They get them drunk so they can. daughters get the dad drunk it's that sounds like a story that dad tells yeah no my daughter they got me

they got me drunk they're the ones who wanted i'm just lot sitting around i hope my wife doesn't turn the salt you know what i mean oh my dog they they got me drunk they gave me a they gave me a pbrmaps blue ribbon and i just didn't know what i was doing a lot is like the malcolm gladwell of the bible I mean, I'm not a big fan, Malcolm, but how is that? Remember that thing that Malcolm Gladwell said, where he was like, he was talking about being on Epstein's plane? And he was like, all I could think was, who is this man? And why am I on his plane? I mean, this is my beautiful wife.

And the days go by and the water comes around. Why am I here at Epstein's plane? And the days go by. So if it's going to become Solomon Gomorra, you were saying? Yeah, if it does become Sodom and Gamora, like, so what? Why are all these people freaking out about it? There aren't that many people on Twitter. Like, there's got to be thousands.

I would guess. But yeah. I mean, relative to like the general. It's kind of a cesspool anyway. Yeah. It is not like the Spartans marching on Athens going like, you know, we're going to burn your books. You're dumb Athens. Socrates.

All the greatest relics of our culture destroyed. It's not the visigoths. Yeah. You know, sacking Rome. This is like, you know, this is something like a bunch of, a bunch of crazy people living in the sewer,

a bunch of other crazy people coming going, we're going to, we're going to shape up this sewer. Things are going to change in this shit-filled sewer pretty soon. New sheriffs in town. You ain't going to like it, But you're going to take it. Welcome to Musk. They just change the name to Musk.

Welcome to Musk. Musk. I mean, you haven't been on Twitter for a while. No. Yeah. You haven't been basking the glory of Twitter like I have. I don't like it. I don't like it.

I don't like how other people are on it. I don't like how I am on it. Yeah. You know, it's like you're the honestly like my, my image of Twitter now is perfect because I you just show me your tweets yeah so to me twitter is your tweets that's the way it should be for everyone and that's great i should be the lens through which everyone views social media yeah um more people getting on board remember to like and subscribe to i cannot implore enough how vital

and necessary your likes and your subscribes are if you don't like this video no one's gonna see it and then you're the problem all right do you want you your children living in darkness in eternal hell covered in gnats and smoky bugs do you want your children eating smoky bugs smoke-filled bugs burned at the steak like witches no you want like the damn thing and subscribe there's an algorithm and you need to feed it or i will i swear to god i will Some guy, you know, speaking of, I mean, I didn't say it, but, you know, some guy, speaking of that, some guy did self-immolate over the weekend. Some, I think he was a Buddhist.

Oh, right, yeah. I saw a tweet, speaking of Twitter, I saw tweets going, some guy just set himself on fire in the capital. I don't know if it was just a capital building or just in D.C., because it wasn't in the news. And people go, why isn't this being covered? Like, why shouldn't? I can't think of a thing I respect less. guy setting himself on fire you don't respect that no i feel like it's the kind of thing you would

respect look when the first guy did it in vietnam which good job you ended vietnam i don't think you did i think many years passed before vietnam ended but uh he made the cover of the rage against the machine album so that's cool no oh right yeah that is that man's statements claim to fame and it's public use so you probably didn't have to pay for it yeah anything the U.S. government probably looked at that and was like a one down. I mean, look, it's like it's, it's a, it's a, it seems like a lazy protest, which I mean, that might strike you as odd and I think setting yourself on fire is lazy, but look, it's strenuous. Well, it's not strenuous. It hurts. Something can be, you can be lazy and it still hurts.

That's my point. Uh, so I don't know. I look, and what was he protesting climate change? I don't think that's moving the needle. I think you should have maybe just burned your arm. And then you're the guy, then you can talk about burning your, like, think of it this way. Matt Lauer, well, he's gone. But, uh, Katie Kirk, is she around? I think so.

Meredith Vieira. Yeah. On the Today show. And you. Kelly Ripper. Kelly Ripper. I thought she was out too. Oh, maybe.

Who knows? Michael Strayhan. Someone is in, Ryan Seacrest, interviewing in the, top of the morning, top of the 8 o'clock block, has on the Buddhist monk, which I assume he was, I'm not, I don't remember, again, it wasn't on the news. So I heard, someone says it by Buddhism, but a Buddhist monk who set his arm on fire and now he's here to talk about it. Now he's here to tell his tale and talk about climate change. Oh, yeah. Then the guy comes on and his arm is all gnarled. Oh, ow. Oh, my arm, it hurts so bad. Now, why did you set yourself on fire?

The climate is destroying, we're destroying it. It's just, it's gushing blood metaphorically. But another metaphor is I set my arm on fire and it's burning and emissions, get it? Did you ever get treatment for your arm? Because it does seem very pussy. I put some aloe on it. It doesn't seem to be helping. Yeah, you know, I don't think for a more than third degree burn, aloe is going to do the trick.

It's very wet. Is this a statement, too, that you're just leaving the arm wet and mangled? No, I don't have insurance. Can I work? Can you give me insurance since I'm on the show? We really only give insurance to full-time staff. And my staff, because I'm being part of the show right now. No, no.

It's really hurts. You're more like a non-employee entity, you know. I wish that wasn't the case because my arm hurts like shit. It hurts like shit. But yeah, please stop, you know. What are we supposed to? to do not use engines i mean i'm not trying to trivialize it i just don't i don't know what the like there's people saying a lot apparently the climate's in like dire straits they're saying if we

don't stop the next nine months which again i i've said before we know relatively recently on the show i'd like that to happen but we know that it doesn't seem like we're going to do anything about yeah um but that being said stop using everything in the next nine months i don't think look that's you're trivializing it you're trivializing the burned man There are steps we can take. I just don't know what they are, which probably makes me dumb because I'm sure there's a lot of scientists saying the steps.

I just don't remember. Haven't most of the scientists started saying, like, even like years ago that like there's nothing we can do at this point? Well, as a children would say, the older children, maybe that's the zoomers. There's levels to this, I assume. Maybe not. Maybe there's not levels to it.

Maybe we're just done. But so I'm sure there's stuff we could do. uh moves we can make uh grooves we could shuffle uh that being said uh i don't know they are because i'm an ignorant man who lives a selfish life but i would love to you know not be able to look at thumburg in the eyes and not feel shame so i don't know i mean that is true that it's like the most literally literally the most environmentally friendly thing we've done yeah in the past years is get a curing which is counterintuitive because they're very bad for the environment. Notoriously bad for the

environment. But we were being even worse. Yes. Somehow. We were wasting the gas on the scooters, bringing us the coffee. We were the guy was probably farting the whole time. That's bad. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, it's not like he's dead now. He's still around

farting somewhere. But I don't know how to solve. Use more toothpaste or use less toothpaste. Have less abortions? Do abortions cause climate change? That's a great question. That can be the clip.

I'm referring to the clip as it goes. Do abortions cause climate change? I mean, you got to imagine that machine that they use for abortions is not the most climate friendly. That machine? That machine. I think they use multiple machines. I mean, well, look, if there's three machines, then it's a problem times three, I imagine.

Does the bed count as a machine? It's a contraption. Oh, yeah, that's true. But, you know, I mean, like. Maybe they only use one machine. Where they do with the fetus? Is that just going to trash? I think at this point in time, they are, well.

You don't know, do you? And you're claiming it's not bad for the environment. Project Veritas claims they're recycling. really but it's what like dog food i yeah i don't know you're here first climate change is caused by abortion and baby dog food i guess it's not babies though the the right it's not politically correct to call them the fetus matter the fetus matter is dog food but not they're not babies because that'd be a person right i mean maybe maybe at a certain point they're babies or could have been babies i don't know i don't know how life works i don't know how you know a life is brought into the

world all i know is come and then something it forms it to something it might as well be plato and saline look if it comes out and it looks like a baby i'm not necessarily against people saying that's a baby right it's like but you know it's just like what are you gonna do comes out of what it comes out of the abortion okay okay so you if you if you see something it looks like a dead baby you'll call Yeah, look, I'm not against people viscerally Just being like that's a baby It's just like, you know But this shit has been going on since ancient Mesopotamia

So what are you going to do? Abortions? Yeah, women used to stuff like clay matter Up their pussies And it would like terminate the pregnancy You didn't get first? It was just sexual and then they realized The baby died

Oh, maybe. And it's like, oh no, but then someone else is like I got an idea. Yeah. I'm on to something. They were having one of those mood swings Where pregnant women get really horny. Yeah.

And maybe his clay will be like a dick. Yeah. She made a big clay dick and tried to fuck herself with it because her husband was bowling. You heard it here first. The first ever abortion was a byproduct of hardcore masturbation. Yeah, big clay dildo. With a big clay dildo.

Yeah. But from that, from strenuation comes innovation, right? Perspiration. Invention is 99% luck and 2% dildos. something like as Thomas Edison said that right anyway it's enough of Twitter I guess you were mentioned in basketball

and this you're not you weren't really you're getting into it you know you started to root for the Celtics you like Jalen Brown I love Jailin Bradman and then the next game you were rooting for the Nets and I brought this up and your response

was that I mean well now the nets are down so i'm going to root for them you don't you're not even like a it's not even a game to the game thing with you is my point you seem to like root for underdogs based on the score of the game at any given moment from play to play yeah which at one point we were watching and like i think that brooklyn oh i think the celtics were down by like two points and you were trying to convince me to root for the celtics and i was like oh okay i'll root for the celtics I'm not a fan of Kevin Durant, all right? I mean, the guy argues with 12-year-olds on Twitter.

We're using burner accounts, and, you know, he went to Golden State. I wasn't a fan of that move. And then, you know, whatever, I'm, like, there's reasons I have. I know we live in Brooklyn and they're a Brooklyn team, but also I'm a Knicks fan. So you go, it's like you think you can be an Yankee fan and a Mets fan at the same time. And you can't. I mean, I got to say the fact that he makes burner accounts and shit talks kids who are shit talking him

actually makes him more human to me. It makes me want to root for him more. It just makes him like a petty guy. I mean, like he's not more human. He's supernaturally talented and a physical, you know, you know, gifted freak of nature, but in a good way.

Yeah, but somehow he's mysteriously like lacking confidence and I feel like if he won another championship. But that's not how heroes work. The hero cycle doesn't work where it's like a man is, you know, is given the test of the of the you know what is it like you know is the challenge what was it go you hear recycle oh the call to the call to action and he just kind of pouts and like weasels

his way around they go well that's someone to look up to no I mean like and look if we were a bigger show he'd come at me and go well you don't know you're the high to play basketball well that's not the point Charles Berkeley last night was like just critiquing I mean like I got swept he's one the best players in the world and he got swept and uh in the first round of the playoffs and charles barclays you know talking about it and it wasn't probably pretty kind but i don't think he was out of line and today he's just like on instagram posting old picture of charles barclay on the rockets with like akim elijah on and like forget who else and it's going like oh where were you without your boys and it's like what we didn't win two titles and step curries what's your point he's got no titles

he went you know i mean what are you doing you just got swept and you still clapping back this is not a hero move doesn't make you evil but i don't want to root for him anyway but you but you decide you're trying to convince me the root for the Celtics or whatever

and i'm kind of like i feel a little bit guilty rooting for the Celtics when the nets are in it even though i don't watch basketball because i'm like they're Brooklyn not a lick of basketball do you watch what not a lick not a lick And like, but I'm like, well, it's, you know, they're playing a mile away from us. I should root for them. Doesn't matter.

But, uh, but you convince me and I go, I comfort myself by going like, well, I guess they're the underdogs now anyway. And, uh, the ticks? The Celtics. So how does it sound like the underdogs? Uh, because they were down by two points. Right. At some point in the game. And, which is baffling me, your sense of like propriety and fairness and like equity.

It's just like, it's like America was the underdog and I. rack because like you know an IED went off one time oh we're the underdogs now I just like I just like the idea of an underdog in sports not everything's underdog you know what it's about like I mean

a big thing in sports is not flipping back and forth all the time I mean if you really want to get down to like this idea of underdog it's like it's something you latch onto it first but I've tried to tell you because I've gone many years of my life not really being into sports like I did to basketball and stuff

it's important that you pick a team you can't just go for the underdog it's not exciting could i could i say something though you should really try it my way sometimes i have it was unfruitful because it's incredibly manic and i think more more exciting doesn't lead to but if that wasn't for me you wouldn't watch basketball because you don't you haven't built any kind of excitement because you're not happy when anything happens you're just like yes like you're ahead now i want you to lose you know when when someone makes a great play that you want them to lose you know when someone makes a great play that you want them to lose it's it's it's a it's a schizophrenic way to live yeah uh okay um speaking of twitter by the way and we're back we're gonna hop back so i've got to mention is their stock

price drop like 12% today twitter did no Tesla oh Tesla because the people i think i think he kind of used some of his Tesla stock or there's some kind of thing where it's like Like, if he, if, if the Tesla stock drops 40%, then he has to be paid a loan or something for that he's financing him Twitter with. And so people are freaking out, I think, over that. And so, I mean, what happens if he, both things collapse? What happens if he loses, if Tesla goes down to like, you know?

Honestly, it would be so fun to watch Elon Musk go broke. It would be really fun. I don't think he'll go broke, but what? how low do you think he could like right now his value is what 300 billion yeah something like that if he goes down to 10 billion that's still a pretty pretty steep which i don't think he would right because tesla people do buy teslas right yeah look here's the x factor who knows what's going to happen when they start i mean are they using the self-driving cars yet um i think that they've murdered a bunch of people with self-driving well we don't know that let you you were going to allege that

People have accused them of that, but we don't know that. Look, we don't know it, but it is... And murder seems, you know, strenuous. I mean, look, no one really, I mean, the show is not well watched, but we're trying to make that. I don't want this to, you know, once this show pops up, we start getting litigation, because you're accusing the richest man in the world of murder. I didn't mean, I didn't mean to say that. No, it's fine. But a bunch of people have died driving the self-driving cars in the way they have been advertised.

to work right uh so i'm saying look that there's next factor there where like that's one way perhaps um it could shift the market so i don't know my point is it doesn't see it seems like a solid buy i was thinking about buying some tesla stock because it was like it's down yeah i'm like maybe i should buy some yeah and uh i'm a coward but uh so who knows it'd be interesting if buying Tesla somehow, you know, brings down Tesla. I don't think it will, but it might. That's what's fun about it. These are the things you have fun with.

Why don't you mean, would you like to see Lon Musk become the underdog? Well, if he did become the underdog, I would definitely root for him. Right. But what if at the underdog he wanted to like, you know, his underdog plan was to leak chemicals into the war? To get revenge for losing his old and all his money. Elon Musk becomes the Mad Hatter The Mad Hatter Is that from Alice in Wonderland?

Yeah I'm trying No no from the Batman Oh Batman was he a big water guy You're thinking of Scarecrow Oh right he puts the fear toxin In the movie yeah Yeah famously Yeah but I feel like it's something

The Mad Hatter could do too Not definitely I mean I've seen some stuff With a man hatter He doesn't seem to be his thing I was just trying to do a more obscure reach I didn't want to say Elon Musk who becomes a joker Because sometimes

Sometimes meat potatoes is the way ways to go. All right. These are some stories that Lucy has searched through the news verse, right? Now that's really a verse, but some of other news venues. And you brought to us. And so I'm going to rely on you to fill in some of the narrative gaps. Uh-oh.

A California man arrested for threatening Miriam Webster. Tell us about this. Yeah, so Miriam Webster. Miriam Webster. Miriam? Yeah, Miriam. You think it's Mariam West Webster? It's Miriam Webster.

I thought when it was a double R was pronounced like Merriam. But it's M-I-R. Oh, yeah, you're right. Merriman, Merriman Webster. What is this? We're off the rails already. Mary Women of Windsor, Webster.

John Luke Busson, Wester. Go on. they yeah this guy was a threatening well you know it's like I never understand the exact lines of a threat but like you know what counts is a threat what doesn't count is a threat I'm gonna kill you bitch that seems like a threat yeah but it was like it was one of those things where it's like I hope this happens not like I'm gonna do it on this date and time but he was like you know because okay so Miriam Webster included all this like gender inclusive language in the dictionary basically like what like

them? Yeah. And they? Yeah, I think so. Um, well, yeah, but I guess they gave them maybe different definitions or something. Were they include all the Zer stuff? Maybe. I don't know.

I'm not sure exactly what gender inclusive language they included. Does anyone use the Zer? And I know it's a thing. But like, I really never encountered the Zers and the Zays. In real life, I've never encountered the Zers. Yeah. I think the Zers might be a myth, like the grays or the whites. I think they were floating in a thing.

honestly and they realized the pushback and they're like they pretended like you're a bigot but like people don't like desert shit yeah it out it's easier to sell a word that's already in there and just say they or that and then it starts some people complaining recently like well don't just assume they say some people just say they them and like I don't want to be using them but they assume that they're non-binary and it's like take the time to learn the right pronoun and it's like look I mean if they know you they should I guess if it's your if it's your friend but like your grandma but if it's someone who's just trying to get by and like just making the retirement just why don't you relax yeah someone who's like serving up your burger at macdonald whatever like

they asked for this why did you why did you give them this well they uh asked for extra catch up and go don't just assume i'm a they you fucking you piece of shit i'm a her yeah i'm a even though even though i'm not binary i'm still a her right so Can you fire this man? Look at this man. What do you make an hour? $8? Can you stop paying on $8 an hour?

Get them out of here. Anyway. But yeah, this person, if they do exist, they never leave their house. Right. Deser's. Yeah, the Zers. It may be played a Sims. When I imagine a Zer, I imagine a person very similar to an N-Sel.

Like it's like, you know, It's like you think they're going to, you know, launch this revolution that's going to affect your life in some horrible way. And George Pearson is going to be a, you know, down to the cross. Yeah, but like, you know, it's a, they just end up. Not existing. Not existing. But anyway, so a man, but the man was so enraged by Miriam Webster, Miriam Webster, say with me. Miriam Webster, that he, uh, what did he do?

That he wrote this letter basically saying like, uh, uh, you know I hope it was that kind of language yeah like like if somebody came into your offices and shot everybody in your office that would be great that would

that would be justice in my view okay coward yeah yeah it was like it was like a threat but yeah hope nothing I hope no if someone was to actually do something and have a spot

wait did he actually shoot people have a spine they just threatened people he didn't shoot him? No, I don't think he ended up shooting. It would be a really terrible thing if someone actually stood up for themselves, but I won't. Well, imagine if someone did, though. Imagine it?

Imagine it? Yeah. So this is a news story. So some guy writes this like cowardly letter. Yeah. Like trying to inspire a shooter. Right. And like the news is running with it.

You know what? That's a good point because it's like this guy is clearly a coward who would never do anything. Well, it's not like, you know. I mean, not that it's like brave. Lucy's trying to get him to do something. Not that it's brave to shoot up a dictionary office. It's not brave. I mean, it's not like you're attacking a bunch of soldiers.

Right. I mean, I'm not trying to encourage that either. Yeah. What can we say? That isn't wrong. But it's like, it is kind of like the news is trying to be like, look at this guy, huh? He wants someone to do something. Imagine if he did that?

Imagine? Imagine that? I mean, wasn't there a guy who flew his plane into the IRS building or one of the IRS buildings? There was? Yeah, like years back. What, like his personal plane? Yeah, like a small plane, yeah. It wasn't on 9-11.

Are we sure that wasn't an accident? I hear those things crash a lot. They crashed, but not usually into the IRS building after the guy said that he hates the IRS. Imagine if the guy was just tweeting, I fucking hate the IRS and he just lost control. of his plane, and it just randomly flew into the IRS. This is fate. Right, so Miriam Webster, they're not dead, apparently.

They're alive, is what you're saying. No, yeah, I think the people are alive. Interesting. Okay, well, good luck. It's just a pulse check on how, you know, you know, on how certain people are going a little crazy over the stuff. I mean, I don't think it helps that, like, But then again, John Hinkley shot Reagan like 40 years ago.

People be crazy. People be crazy. Yeah. Yes. Though I don't think it necessarily helps that like a bunch of people are like very spuriously conflating trial molesters with like people who talk about being gay. Look, it doesn't help. Look, here's an interesting question where like, look, there's crazy out there.

Now, again, from a purely tribal point of view, whatever, like if you're gay, and you know it's bad either way because like you know but my point is this is it creating violent uh whatever threats or is it just redirecting them you understand what i'm saying like if you if you really pumped up how crazy uh postal workers were or how how much of a threat postal workers were yeah but this guy also threatened them or you like which again if you're gay and you're part of that group of people who you know and yeah you're getting the stress from the crazy people still either way it's not good because you know you'd rather the postal guys get it that being said like are we creating more neck crazy or is it just a matter of like

distributing the crazy oh I think it's definitely what it's being aimed at right I think there's a lot of fucking like I think there's probably more crazy people than average right now because isolation tends to do that to people at least have pet rocks so I don't know but maybe you're right you know I think people are a little on edge yeah you know and and you're redirecting that at like you know a fake cabal of pedophiles

sure that are really just people who at most are a little like overeducated in the contemporary colleges and just talk about gender identity a little bit a little bit too much you know I've seen some of these videos and like there's definitely outliers who are like I assume they're outliers who like are a problem I don't mean in the sense we just have like crazy people go after them but like I mean I don't support it don't take a bill but there are I've seen some of these videos like you know I guess they're I don't follow loops of TikTok but maybe it's on these guys but some of these people you really can't spin it where you're not like some of these teachers are like you kind of you shouldn't be doing this I feel like most of them are just like you know I want to be able to tell my you know students I have paddle board

to my husband and gay and it's like that seems like fine like you know it seems like a boring story but whatever yeah i mean literally it's a guy was a paddleboarding i feel like most i got to tell these kids i paddleboarded most of the outliers are people who it's like i'm not concerned about this person and i don't think anyone is sincerely concerned about this person molesting a child no it's more like it's a little much yeah exactly i know i definitely don't subscribe to the they're grooming anyone yeah i mean look this thing i mean this is the rhetoric the grooming rhetoric being applied to this

is great for pedophiles oh for sure being able to be having that term dulled right amazing amazing and here's the thing even if you want to show it in the worst light possible like it's still not you can argue it's like at worst it's brainwashing

or like indoctrinating into this like progressive woke whatever you know ideology you want to say but like the idea they're grooming them to fuck him it's like that's just that's just it ruins you any validity you had your point yeah and like you know that if he did have i'm not really getting into the hot potato with this i'm just saying yeah uh what was i saying i had a good point something about uh paddleboarding how look tell the kids you paddle boarded with your husband and you're gay it's fine i'm fine with that but don't you know don't don't

Don't show them how to, like, you know, do a, how, you know, remove warts from your dick. That's it. And again, I'm not saying someone did that, but that would be a clear boundary not to do, right? Don't put prosthetic warts on a kid's dick. Right. And then be like, you know, we're going to, yeah, and then have him pick him up, pick them off. Seems like a reasonable line. And that's exactly where I joined a line.

If you're curious. So, Webster's, you know, is Webster going on that business? Are they calling quits? Yeah, they fall. Imaginary attack? Yeah. This is weird. This is, I'm going to have to look this up.

I didn't put the details, but there was some Air Force general. And I believe he was, he was conveyed, the first general convicted for sexual something because he gave his, uh, he. forced a kiss on his sister-in-law, I think it was, which just seems like a very strange. It's got to be, like, embarrassing. Forced a kiss?

I mean, imagine forcing a kiss on someone so bad that you're the first general convicted. I mean, they must have really not liked this kiss. I'm going to see if I can find this story real quick. It's my history. Mother stabs the death pit bull. We can talk about that later. It's time to have a conversation about James

Tardin, I fully agree. The cast of who's the boss? Where are they now? Afghanistan. Let's see. We have a show. Michael Cohen. Where is this general?

Muscus Twitter. I guess I'm clicking on every link. No father wants to sell his son's kidney. I don't know my co-sign that statement. By the way. No father wants to sell his son's kidney. Afghans push the desperate measures. to survive.

I don't, I mean, I mean, how much are you offering? Yeah. Because I give that kid a better life. Look, how much you're gonna offer me for this kidney? Give me an extravagant number.

A billion dollars. I'm sure I could buy him another kidney if need be for like 10 million. Yeah. So yeah, give me the kid, take it. Yeah. And even worst case scenario,

you can't find another kidney. He does. He does? Well, I guess he has a dialysis permanently or something. Oh, yeah, that's so good. Yeah, you buy him another kidney. Yeah, rebellion. You build him a robot dialysis thing.

Like, you know, like he's crying from Ninja Turtles. Historic court martial. Okay, here we go. Ends with the first conviction of an Air Force General. An historic trial within the ranks of the U.S. military has ended with the first ever conviction of an Air Force general and a court marshal. Major General William T. Cooley was found guilty on Saturday of abusive sexual contact

for forcibly kissing his sister-in-law after a barbecue in 2018. Look, I might try to minimize it, but imagine that's what you did. Not only is your career ruined as an Air Force man. Yeah. But you were a historic case

of a general being convicted because you planted one on your sister-in-law after a fucking barbecue. you, but you had one too many margaritas. Wait, like, what do you think this kiss was? Let's see. She testified that in the car. Cooley said he fantasized about having sex with her.

All right, well, that's already a lot. I mean, look, you just plant a kiss on her if you're going to do it. Look, don't do it all. Don't do it all, but like. This is probably kind of a sloppy kiss. Well, you know, after fancised about having sex with her and pinned her against the driver's side door, kissing her and touching her breast and groin.

Well, look, that's not a kiss. That's not a forcible kiss. These headlines are all terrible. You're grabbing a pussy. That's not a kiss anymore. Now you're grabbing a pussy. Yeah, we're now referring to attempted rape as no-no kisses. Right.

He just man just got a little loose, a little loopy, and went in for a sloppy wet one. And my wet one, I mean forcible penetration. Digital penetration of the pussy. uh he gave a kiss these are these journalists complain about like whatever the trump error this that uh fake news bot Russian bots they can't help themselves from these salacious leads yeah he kissed her he grabbed her cunt yeah that's up i mean the kiss is like you know third third degree he grabbed her cunt touched her tit yeah yeah yeah he He gave her a yucky kiss that resulted in her bleeding from several orifices.

After the kiss, she had a severe scarring of the labia. Her cervix was bifurcated, bleeding from the ass. After an unwanted kiss after a barbecue. Jesus. I mean, look, do I respect journalists? in theory only they're really bad i don't know what happened yeah with dexter filkins ever saying stuff like this remember dexter filkins in new york times back in the iraq war days i'm not saying he wasn't like a pro war i don't know if he's a pro war he always came i used to watch him on charlie rose

dexter filkins and uh he always came off to me like a measured measured measured old school kind of war journalist. I can't imagine him burying the notion of digital grabbing. We're not digital grabbing. Because the finger, pussy grabbing. And with a lead like, he gave her a kiss. That's not the Dexter Filkins I know. I believe he would write that story better. I think the journalists just suck now.

Yeah. The most part. They're crazy people. Who else we get into this field nowadays? Yes. The world let journalists down. but then so therefore the only people who become a journalist are the worst people maybe it's kind of a weird cycle who is like the psycho editor

who was reading this story and was like literally reading like the details of a of a rape and went like wait a minute he did kisses on her what's the movie where like those guys are in a bar and like they put that woman on top of a pinball

table and they kiss her the hughes do you remember that scene deliverance where that guy kisses that baby is there another famous one remember that scene where John's revolt that kisses that girl

is now you're a whore there are other famous ones remember when Marlon Brando shows that butter in that woman's ass and then kisses her? Wait, does that work? Does that work?

Yeah. But once about a time in America where Robert De Niro rate. I lost that. Look, did you think a movie? Robert Dierre kisses that girl in the limo. He rapes a girl in the limo?

Yeah. I can't forget that. Yeah. I didn't like that movie. Is it good? I saw it a long time ago. Should I rewatch it? Once upon a time of the moment.

America. I like Surgio Leon. He did the once upon a time in the West. He did the fistful of dollars, good, bad and the ugly. You know what the same director? As once about a time in America? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. It's a spaghetti western turned, uh, were they supposed to be Jewish gangsters. Oh, baby. I think they are that movie. James Woods is in that. It might be, I should rewatch it, but I remember being very bad. tell me what you think i've only seen the limo rape scene oh why did you say so you're sitting there blanking and i'm like somebody was like this is like you know it was like one of those things where i was like somebody was telling me about the movie and they were like yeah like i'm not sure how i feel

about it i don't know if it was that great like but they were telling me like there was this brutal rape seat in it and so it was like i was like weirdly i was like i'll check out this brutal rape and see if i want to see the rest of the movie was that brutal um it wasn't You know, it definitely didn't seem pleasant. Okay. Yeah. Can you name a rape scene that seems pleasant? I mean, I don't think that was the bar.

I'm saying as far as rape scenes go, was it particularly brutal? No, and as far as rape, I mean, I've seen more brutal. She said the rape was fine. But, no, okay. Yeah, so kind of a mediocre rape scene. Yeah. Interesting. Maybe we'll watch it sometime.

It's a long movie. Yeah. Once about time and a kiss. Is there a kiss kiss, bang bang's about? First to get the kiss kiss kiss and didn't get the bang bang. I never saw that movie either.

That was what Gina Davis, I think. I saw kiss kiss, bang, is it good? Yeah, okay. We should watch it. I remember it being good. That's Shane black.

I think it's a shame black movie. It could be wrong about that. Whatever. Doesn't matter. So, you know. So that's cool. I don't know what we've been talking. about but it seemed fun right yeah i think we had a great everyone had a great time and we enjoy

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