Kump - 111 - Steal This NFT

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss a national tragedy, Seth Green, and much more.  Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Get your Kump Hand merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/

Hello, and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. It's a lovely day in America. Is it? Never. No.

It's not great. I mean, it's, it's a day it's a day it's a day and look what do you want this is not this is not the land

of milk and honey that's uh Israel? Israel? I guess I don't know we were listening to a broadcaster and he was going through the this doesn't happen in Europe

this doesn't happen in Australia right this doesn't happen in Israel and it's like well all right I guess if you don't count like your your baby

getting bombed well yeah the first minute going straight to the um no things happen in Israel it's uh it's not uneventful in Israel

not the same things yeah but they have different issues they have your own piccadillos yeah different problems different different folks for different bicycle spokes uh changes up

so what happened. Something out of school. I don't want to talk. I mean, we're going to... Here's the thing. Another tragedy. It's, uh, look, it's just America.

Yeah. You can't, uh, have anything nice. You can. I mean, look, you can, but the, it's going to be rough. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Uh, I mean, I don't, look, I don't know what you. Like, people want gun control the own, want to control.

I don't know. I think, I think, you know, I think, you know, You know, there might be some room for people. No, we need to fight the tyrants. And look, I've been in that, you know, mindset before. We're like, look, it's good to have a check on tyranny. But the problem is, maybe. The problem you get, you run into with the Second Amendment.

And I like the idea of it, too. But, like, the problem you ever run into is that a lot of the time, the armed citizenry just agrees with the fascists. Like, it's not, you know, like, maybe they would fight back. Yeah. I think they have at some points in history. But, like. we'll give you we'll give you uh you on Vegas we'll give you Vegas right they'll give all

the militias Vegas yeah in the new uh right in the new handmade's tale yeah the fascist will just court the militias like that's how I well there's different types of things I mean people will point to Afghanistan how you say properly Afghanistan yeah well that's how I always say I mean I always see like Brian Callan saying it like in a certain way but uh but he might have been right about that but it seemed pretentious anyway but yeah you fight you know they for the America you know how are you gonna fight

stuff bombers and it's like Ukraine's doing it with you know the guns that we give them I mean look if the American government if it's a radical American government sends the militias like you know singer missiles and bazookas and like heavy artillery we might be able to beat them

just to keep things interesting look if The CIA helps us instead of, you know, mind controlling our children for all sorts of activities, then maybe we can find, you know, I don't know. It's possible. It's not that I don't want to, you know, discuss it, but it's just a, it's such a third rail issue now that it's not, we need to find something alternative. We can't just keep saying gun control because that's like, it's like, it's like telling

that your uncle who was just like got a goiter which is actually a tumor but he calls it a goiter that you should go to the doctor I don't like doctors because one time you gave him a a needle full of you know for bumps and like you know didn't like it yeah and now he hates doctors or maybe a doctor must of them I don't know but you know it happens a little time like to work in a morgue there was a stubborn people out there who don't like doctors yeah every one time uh report was you know Well, he told his wife, if we were still alive on Monday, he'll go to the doctor. Right. And he wasn't.

So, you know, it's what it is. I mean, and there are some just, like, genuinely bad arguments on the gun control side. It might not work. It might not work. Like, there's, like, I, like, one thing that annoys me is when people are like, well, that amendment was written, you know, hundreds of years ago. And it's like, yeah, but that's kind of how constitutions work a lot of the time. Sure. Yeah, well, yeah.

You can't just take it out. It can't just be that. Right. And look, at the end of the day, I mean, look, if we somehow, am I, we, I'm, you know, I'm a, I'm a strange, you know, amorphous figure in the realm of American politics. You know, no knows what I am. I'm in the undesirable is what I am. Right. But, you know, my point is, but, you know, but it would be interesting if there was momentum and they banned at least certain gun and nothing happened.

Which is very possible. There's a lot of reasons for these things. Right. And it would just be, would that be the epitome of egg on face? If, uh... They got worse. They got worse. Oh, yeah.

Look, that wouldn't even be that, like, comically ironical. Then we wouldn't be comical. More shootings wouldn't be comical at all. Right. But the, wouldn't even be that much more ironic nowadays. Right, yeah. Oh, things got worse. That seems, that seems right.

Yeah. But my point, look, because I got, I'm sympathetic the idea that, you know, it's just the fact that no one even wants to discuss it at all. Nobody wants to do anything. Any measure, like any, because, look, I agree, like, that's not the only answer. Sure.

Like mental health. Other countries, look, it seems to have worked. And then people bring up, well, there's more people in that country. Okay. And there's, you'll never get these guns out of circulation. Perhaps not. I mean, I can't get, you know, marmite easily in this country. Yeah.

It's a chore to get marmite. You know, that's not even illegal. Right. I have to go through Amazon to get that. So, I mean, I like people. That's also a polarizing subject is marmite. If you're not familiar with Marmite, it's originally a British product, I believe. It's yeast extract.

As far as I know, it's the industrial extract from when they make beer. It's this brown pig. that British people put on toast and I like it's very umami right very savory very and he's been it's very polarizing people love or hate it uh I wish I could get that easier you know so I don't know if I buy that like I'll still get if they want it's like you know I don't know where I get one a jar you know they have those squeeze ones because it's very difficult to pay the the spread it's Marmite and like they have They make one that's actually like a, like a, like a, like a, like a toothpaste thing.

I would love to have that. But it's like 50 bucks to get on Amazon because it's like, you know, even even the Marmite distributors don't usually have it. And I'm not spending 50 bucks for Marmite. Right. Well, that's probably because it's viewed as kind of a, you know, like a minimalist product, like right? Like it's like.

Minimal, like survivalists? Like you're not necessarily supposed to have like a giant jug of marmite in your house. Yeah. No, you say they come in a small little thing, yeah. So maybe that's what gun culture needs. Like, maybe there needs to be, there is like a subculture. Yeah, cute little guns. Like, there needs to be a subculture,

because there is like a YouTube subculture of like gun enthusiasts. Like, where's like the gun minimalist movement of just like, it's not sophisticated. Well, they have, it's called 3D print them. I think the government doesn't like that. It's a very, uh, I don't know. That seems like a very, I don't even want to talk about it. That seems like someone's going to get us ripped off of all sorts of things.

But they like to share their plans. Maybe it's not that controversy. I don't know. No, I just mean cultural, like a cultural shift of like, you know. Oh, you mean like school shoes going to like, look, like the same way you have like guys who are like, I don't use power tools. They're like, I don't use semi-autos of like, you know, damn a mass shooting. Yeah. That would be, look, look, I mean, it sounds horrific.

but that would be a improvement, a net improvement, at least in the short term, unless they start getting competitive. In the synth world, there's like, you know, what you call a DAW, a DAW, a DAW, which is like, you know, basically it's like Photoshop for music and, like, a better term, and everything's there. But then there's the guys who have the hardware since

and just have these little boxes that control them, and it's daawless. And it's like, it's an analog purist. And, like, people do really cool stuff with them. And you hope there isn't that competitive thing with this, where it's like they just get better. it using the old time guns or the less speedy or maybe you know or like it's like call of duty with that one kid with a knife he's just stabbing you was like I how that happened I got a whole big

thing here you stabbing with a knife we're never going to be monetized again I don't know how it works no last week I think we worked out oh good they gave me a scare but then it turned out was fine but this week I don't know we're trying to solve the problem here yeah People get very touchy, and it's like, you know, maybe, look, we had a great, what was our, this was having more to do with cop shooting, you know, individuals, right? It was, it came up, our strategy we developed last year. Yeah, a, a special team. A special team. It was kind of based on Final Fantasy, if you remember, and the whole idea was that you have, every cop is part of a 14 unit.

you have we give the we give the not we give that we give the mental health professionals we give them a shake you get a mental health professional in the car you get a medic the mage the mage as it were you get the big bruiser you get one guy who's all decked out in like like flexible body armor I've seen it but like the best we can describe is Batman without a cape but I've seen people have this kind of movable plate armor but he doesn't have a gun and then you have a guy the gun. Right. Because the problem is you can't, like,

oh, I can't, like, get into a scuffle because the guy to get my gun, then he shoots people with them. Then we're, where are we now? So then, that's why you have him grappling, but if it gets out of the hand, the guy with the gun can shoot from a distance. And it's a, it's a whole,

it's a multi, it's a weapons mix, as it were. Right. We need something like that, perhaps, you know, an idea like that, which worked, I believe. Yeah.

Our idea, I think, matriculated, is the word, or triculated? it trickled into the zeitgeist and the state of our lives certain states are using it as a blueprint I mean they should get to pay us yeah I mean we want

we want less people to die but we got to get paid money over everything but no yeah like we need an idea and it can't be like gun again I don't know if gun control would work it doesn't matter

because we're not going to broach it apparently. I mean, it's like a brainstorming session, but don't touch this piece of cheese king. It's not for you. Like, all right. It's like an Apollo 13, right? And I'm a big Ron Howard fan. He takes a lot of liberties.

I've realized over the years, too much liberties. But that's seen Apollo 13 when, you know, they're running out of oxygen or whatever. And I think Ed Harris or some other guy gets a bunch of nerds into a room, you know, these black horn glasses. and resentment, you know, he's just, man, guys. And he dumps a bunch of garbage, like, looks like garbage onto a table. And he says, this is what they got, making an air filter.

You got 20 minutes. And they just, they don't even flinch. They start putting it together. I mean, in real life, they might have flinched. They'd be like, what the fuck? What? Huh? This is, there's nothing in here makes air filter.

This is garbage. Right. But in the movie, they didn't flinch. Right. Right to it. we're just going to figure it out and they did yeah i guess they really that's finding a solution to this without gun control yeah and that's just thing we need those NASA guys uh who are all dead and probably you know we're voting against gun control you know whatever i mean those might be the same

guys who are like you know over my dead body didn't you work on the lunar module it's like get off my property um boy you're fat well geez i mean thank you sir uh So, I have, we need, we need a garbage solution. I've got, I've got an idea. It's simple. It's actually something that, like, the right has proposed in the past. Okay. And, and they've gotten a little extreme with it.

Like, I don't believe in arming teachers and guidance counselors. What? Bumphing this thing. What do these metal things do? Well, it do is make noise when you hit it. Yeah. It's not good. Anyway, we go.

But, yeah, like, I don't believe it, like, arming teachers and stuff. No, I mean, I, like, I've never, I didn't, I famously had no love. from any of my teachers. Right, yeah. I wouldn't want any of them have guns. I was a bastard. I was, I mean, I was a jerk.

I wouldn't want them having... There are priests who probably would have wanted to shoot you. Oh, yeah. But yeah, like, but I do think you could whittle it down to like, maybe like you have an old military veteran, just a guy, you know, and you put him in front of the school. Some schools are on a hill, so maybe you put him at the bottom of the hill, and he has a desk. What schools are on a hill? My school was on a hill

Well, everything where you're from is on a hill Okay So anyway, he just sits at his desk And his only job is to just have a gun And if a school shooter comes Fight him Fight him? Not shoot him?

Either with gun or with or with fists. I mean, look, that's an idea. And they're not supposed to do it They're not allowed to talk to the kids They shouldn't have any interaction with the kids. What if they want to ask? Like, where's the shooter? I heard gunshots.

Did you see him? The kid's like, the kid's like, he's over there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I can't talk to you. He doesn't even say that. Yeah. He's just like, you know, you know why. He's playing that game. But it's a protection because you don't want him to have relationships with the kids

where he thinks one kid is annoying and maybe he starts wanting to shoot him. I mean, look, whoa. Oh, my God. This is, this is, that's your reason? Well, because that was the whole problem with teachers and guns, right? That they might want to, it might, some escalation between the teacher and student might happen. I, look, that's, no contact. I mean, that was a cute thing to say, but I mean, that wasn't really my reason.

I just don't think. Yeah. Look, if you're, if you're putting a guy into a school with a gun and worrying that he, if he gets a little annoyed, you know, a military veteran is going to get. like pushed over the edge because a kid like made fun of him some guy who's been to war it's like that made

this might not be the best idea like we're not just look I have this great plan you're at the proposal like here town meeting I've school board I think I have you know what's not you have a proposal yeah I have this security guard

you just up there it sounds actually pretty good right there's only one thing I think you know that I've noticed myself that is a issue here we love to result is like the guy's going to be prone to want to kill the kids. It's like, well, if we could just solve that,

if we just figure, you know, maybe they don't talk to him. Just to focus, I mean, I think he's like, because he's going to have some PTSD, but the PTSD needs to be. Soldiers often do. I don't claim to understand it, but that seems to be a thing the soldiers have. We're going to intentionally get what's PTSD. Oh. And then we're going to focus all the PTSD on like, like show him images of school shooters.

have him build up a hatred towards them that can explode if we get triggered. But we don't want his PTSD getting distracted. Do they look like anything in school shoot or they just look like kids? Like we're young young people. I mean, I guess, look, they often wear body armor, I guess. Right.

This guy was wearing body armor but didn't have the armor plate. Right. And then the cops, you know, I don't know, didn't do anything. One of them did, they can shout. I don't know. There were cops before he got in there. you know there were cops before he got in yeah like he shot one guy i think he was a district

officer and then uh i believe there was a couple cops who like engaged with them on some level and then he like shot at them and they just ran away okay behind their cars and then he walked and did what he did and people are very mad at the cops uh online and uh you know it seems like it's not look that that would have been a great PR move for cops like we should we blame should we look It's a scary situation. You can say it's their job. It's self-preservation. Can you blame them?

Perhaps not. But that would have been a great PR move, wouldn't it? Yeah. If they bagged one? If they got one. They just got one. You need us. Come on.

You know? It's like when a husband, a bad husband takes out the garbage. Look what I did. You know? Yeah, yeah. I'm a lous. I steal your money. They gamble it.

but I you come home he's he's made like a well he's got the pizza but he's put the plates out he's fed the kids right look look look at you know it's like I feel like

lessor well I don't think Lester diamond it from casino ever did that but I mean it'd be like a guy like that and he's like look I got pizza like this is nice I'll give you a foot rub later and that keeps the marriage going for another six months right right you know

he's just getting by that's what the cops could have used to win I mean whatever happened to calling for backup or whatever I mean they did Well I think they went behind their car I don't know for sure I read you know I've read different accounts Yeah

They went behind the car Look the guy had you know a big rivalry Shooting I mean what you want I mean I don't know Like do you want to give the cops of grenades I would that's what I thought like it would be great We had a grenade right now just throw it the guy I mean towards the school I guess Because that's where he was heading

So it's fraught and then you can go and then you can be second guessing them you know let's be fair i'm not saying they don't deserve second guessing but if they had a grenade in that moment and they threw it and then like you know they accidentally you know didn't hit that guy right and hit someone else you'd be second guessing them that's true so it's like you know but maybe they get a grenade the cops give the cop how crazy would it be if we solved this by just giving each cop a grenade i know it seems counterintuitive but it's the kind of kind of thing where it's like i used to watch this guy Gary Trudeau or so I don't know

It wasn't Justin Trudeau It was this guy but it was like you know Natural Cures or something some scammer Some alleged scammer But he would be like You know you people tell you Acid reflux You drink less ad

You put more ad You put vinegar in And it counteracts it And you wouldn't think that would be the case And he I think he went to jail But the point is That like Maybe more what maybe a grenade

Even though it seems inflammatory Mike you could throw it without being scared yeah maybe the grenade like could only be used like in a school shooter scenario okay like it's like this is your school shooter

grenade okay that's fair you get one you only use it outside maybe I don't trust them on the inside but if you see a guy walking you can throw because there aren't a lot of these guys like ex college athletes or ex like high school like football guys right like you know maybe maybe maybe they can drug maybe that bad's shooting some of them

but maybe they could throw it they could throw grenade yeah and uh not hit kids or teachers hopefully um like should we I mean should kids just have body on there it's starting to look that way I mean they have like bulletproof backpacks right um so oh yeah some of some schools do I think Well, I don't think it's a school thing. I think it's the parent. Oh, right, right. Schools have the drills.

Right, David. Which apparently are not working. Well, I mean, we don't know how many would have, maybe it was effective on some level. Maybe it would have been a lot more. Apparently he was in there for an hour. Nah. And so maybe a lot more kid. Maybe he was like trying all the doors and then they locked themselves in the doors.

That's true. We don't, let's not say that. You know, they might have helped. We just don't know. Mostly because we don't research. I just mean, they're not 100%. Well, I don't think there were drills were about disarming anybody.

It's more about just kind of... I was out of school by the time those drills started. I was like... No, but all this is... I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you had a little bit of gun play. Yeah. Gun, you know, to those drills.

Suddenly you have an army of six-year-olds. Can we get... Like an air marshal kind of thing, but with certain kids... Like, maybe... Look, maybe the class president or like the valedictorian or whoever's ahead in the valedictorian race those kids get the you know it's it's a or the class president gets to be armed

yeah because those guys don't tend to be the ones who are girls don't tend to be the ones doing this right right yeah that's true and i'm not saying arm the popular kids but like maybe like this but maybe the valedictorian and the salutarian or kind of you know give that responsibility yeah they do gooders yeah because they take it's they take all the crap seriously anyway yeah maybe that's the thing maybe Maybe we should start, you know, trusting the most, you know, education, academically capable amongst our students. Yeah.

And they could be. And, you know, it's like they seem to be able to handle pressure up until the point where, you know, you know, a lot of times, like kids in MIT or whatever they, you know. Yeah. They handle the pressure to a point. Yeah. And they're overachievers. So if you just tell them like, well, you don't want, yeah, you don't want to be.

If you drop a school shooter, that's worth like a. ton of extra credit. Oh, that's instant college admission. Yeah. That's, I might, look, no, well, you get, you go to MIT. Yeah. No, if you, like, I don't want to incentivize anyone to like, I mean, because you can imagine the kind of outlier situation where, like, you know, the kid, uh, who like was boarded

along, you know, evaluatorian of a not great school. So it wasn't that impressive. And, like, he was not a shoe in for MIT at all kind of gets his, you know, friend who's really kind of a not you know not academic kid and they you know i mean right right and they read alike but then you know i'm you know i'm trying to get i'm not trying to give anyone an idea but i mean it's a perverse system that we're building right we don't want to incentivize anyone to create a situation yeah where they you know you know like you know what i'm saying right right where it's a false it's a false shooter yeah and he just shoots him he shoots his friend

I don't know. Literally all our suggestions are just going to, like just so many more people getting shut. Well, look, I, I think that's not water. My PTSD security guard just joins the school shooter. No, kid, look, look. You got to line the site, both the sites up. Here's the problem.

You're aiming with your eye. You have to aim. You're practicing where you're aiming down the site. But you got your reflex shooter. He's like chasing them all. It was like, I think, wow, this is bizarre. Straight A students were just dropping each other for a chance to get into MIT. Oh, the competitive.

That's Battle Royale. Well, like, it's not everyone, though. There's not everyone who has that. Book, that's an interesting point. I was thinking, like, you know, the grade valetorian and salutatorian. And that would be kind of like whoever's ahead in that race. But then you're switching guns all the time. It's like, I need some guy gets an A on the test.

And he's like, give me the gun. My gun. I get the gun now. Like your GPA goes up. Maybe it's like, you know, if you have a certain GPA, you get, you get to have a gun. It can't, but look, I mean, I would never have been part of this. So I'm not, it's not me like, you know, enfranchising myself. Right.

You know, I would have been the guy without the gun. They're like, oh, fuck. It's the same. I mean, it's going to build a lot of resentment amongst people who aren't great at math. Yeah. Oh, for sure. So I don't know how that bubbles over and, you know, other things. Yeah.

it definitely has the the shade of a Stanford prison experiment but yeah what about explain that explain the uh i i'm not going to pepper went down you know almost the wrong pipe sorry the what you know the one where they made some of people guards and some people prisoners and like gave the guards all this control over the prisoners oh i think the other one where they were like, where they were, you know, give this man the electrical dial. Oh, yeah.

Right? And he's like, this man's hurt. And it's like, just keep it cheap hitting it. Um. But yeah, should we have,

the problem a lot of people have with metal detectors is that they're kind of demoralizing to the school population. Is that really a book? Should we have maybe like, maybe like a kind of fun metal detectors, like themed. metal. Oh, sure. Make a Pokemon thing. Sure. Yeah, Pokemon. Because I feel like... You get a Pikachu. Yeah, I feel like, look, that's the kind of thing where it's like

when the British government after World War I, they suspended the gold standard or the pound sterling standard or whatever after World War I, which, you know, in massive wars, it's typically would happen. And then it caused a lot of problems later on, but they wanted to get back in the gold standard because it's prestigious, but they didn't want to be... Like, a lot of countries don't want to devalue their currency is the lack of it means all the reasons but a prestige thing right but at a certain point you got you got to pay the price is it it's like you know it's like it's like it's like not one of the your family was rich but now you don't want to sell the boat but you got to sell a boat right you're not you're not flush anymore and it's like oh it's demoralizing we have

metal detectors it's like yeah well that's where we're at right i mean i don't know what's going to help, though. I guess there's some shooting group people sneak them in. Yeah, and I also, it's like, the thing is with metal detectors, I feel like they're usually used to like, to like, uh, check with students. Right. But some, you know, 18, you know, random 18 year old. You're going through the metal detector.

It's like, hey, hey, I'm the valedictorian. Yeah. I get to have this. You know, the security guard's like, what? Like, you know how these things work. No one tells, every, all these perks your teacher. tell you you have and then like it don't real like everything else your teachers teach you is crap and it's like you know he's like no one told me about this no I can I can have one of

I got an A on the math test I'll have this fucking six six hour or whatever uh I don't know so I mean will that work do we fix it I think so I hope so I really do that's the closest anyone's come yet because this is really tragic we're made you know I mean look it's it's it's it's so fucked up. Everyone else is out there just going like, but you got a ban! Like, look, we're the only ones, I feel like who are like, you know,

but what else can we do? We got at least, I feel like the first step is really just to practice the expectation that maybe you should have some solution, right? Yeah. Just practice. We've gotten out of that habit. Yeah.

Because it was just like, it's like the moment it happens. It was just like, we're not going to do anything about it. It's terrible. And then the government's like, oh, cool. They get it now. I mean, maybe, or lasers, somehow going to help? Can we get a laser?

Oh, yeah. I mean, like, we protect precious jewels and stuff with lasers, right? Is every kid get a laser shield? How far? Where is Musk on this? The hallway. Where is a lung musk on the laser shield? sure so any else you want to before we move on from this awful topic

um i don't think so uh we've been playing basketball a lot lately we have we uh you've been hooping you bought a bad we've been hooping you go to a park and we play basketball and a few times a day and we'll play horse and we'll play uh we'll do a little one-on-one where i'm like you know boxing you out towards the paint and we're getting better you know it's like whatever we're getting active we're getting out in the world we're living living for now for now uh and yeah it's been fun now we had there was look we we share we we we try the time it because we work from home so we're we're we have to you know we're able to kind of take our breaks and kind of our

will but the schools also and his kids of the neighborhood also utilizes basketball court so we have to kind of find these windows of time uh and overall it's been good but there was uh there's some situations where like and look we're not trying to keep hoopers off the court no young hoopers you know we see a bunch of some kids uh who need to hoop you know we we wrap our game you know we're just fussing around the most part yeah you know we're not trying to stop anyone from becoming you know the next john morant yeah uh but yeah like we were playing last week and there was a bunch of kids you know ranging of ages right like you know

anywhere between 12 and 40 no 12 and 17 probably there's usually 12 and 17 probably there's usually an age range of like 12 to 17 and then there will be like one like random old man sitting on a bench just kind of watching it but also you know thinking about how he's the coach you know everyone he loves is dead that seems to be usually the pattern

yeah no you're right I'm just I'm just thinking it's like you know let be me one day anyway you're not gonna be the hack and I have to go to a park no I'll be at a Chinese buffet just eating eating crab reputation crab legs

right crab sticks anyway that sounds good this kind of thing when you eat one is like pretty just fried it's pretty tasty then they start getting gross as you start gorging yourself with them uh but yeah we were playing and they were playing half court and we're like if i guess we can play we'll play the other hoop and at some point they started wanting to play full court i guess but they didn't ask us and they just started kind of like moving up and down the court right and like you know like they didn't say like get out of the way or anything but they were just, you know, act as if we weren't there, sort of.

Right. And then take their shots and then go back to the other side. And when it first happened, I was like, uh, what, what is this here? Which is a weird response. I was like, what did you say? Yeah, I was like, what's going on? And they didn't respond. Yeah, and whatever.

I mean, I think they expected us just to walk away. Yeah. I think they expected it was just kind of, like a bad theory. It's not a bit, but we'll just. like this fat guy and his little girlfriend like a bunch of kids and like I'm not scared of kids

I'm not saying I shouldn't be but I just I don't clock like they're just kids I mean what are they gonna do I mean like you know if they start yelling at me like hey fat boy we're gonna kill you we're like I'll evaluate the situation at that point

but I mean you know I was more just like you know I'm not like I'm not that much of a bitch I'm just gonna be like oh excuse me and I don't know I think after a couple waves of that they just you know kind of got the idea like if they if they said to us hey we you know we actually wanted to play full court just because it seems like it seems like weird for us

to to be like no like it's like it's like it's a socialism thing almost or the good of the many outweighs the few kind of thing yeah it also it's like it is a children's space mostly technically well it's not no it's not very ground i mean there's like it's more of the all parks I guess are inherently for families and children more right but yeah we're fully within our rights to be at this park uh would be very clear we're not hanging around the merry ground you know um but yeah I agree so I mean it was interesting but they seem to I'm not saying like I intimidate them but I feel like I'm I have enough of a presence to do like I was just play half-core right it's also like yeah it probably it's hard playing half for full core basketball

You know, we get winded. I mean, you don't have to be me to get winded doing that. Yeah. They probably getting winded too. And say, it wasn't worth their troubles. So we, I guess we won that exchange. Yeah. But there was another situation where this other kid, like a younger kid at one point, a few days later, you know, kind of just showed up next to us.

And he was playing on the other end. There was a few people shooting baskets on the other end. And he just came over to us and started shooting. And I just kind of gave him the nod. Like, yeah, I guess this is fine. Yeah, we were just playing horse. Yeah, we're playing horse. We'll share the hoop.

No words for exchange. They're kind of going to what's up. Yeah. All right. And he starts like doing. It's like a nine-year-old kid. Yeah, a young kid. I mean, I didn't ask him his age or anything.

Hey, how old are you? Well, but yeah, it's like. What's your name? Well, we'll get to that. That came up. Well, didn't come up. No. Between us.

Yeah. No, but he starts shooting like behind his back. at one point, like I saw it, he got one in. Actually, he's like, did you get that in? He's like, yeah, like, oh, weren't you facing the other way? He's like, yeah. Yeah, we were both vocally impressed. Yeah, we're like, and like, from that point on,

he would like look to us every time, like, you know, he got one in. Yeah, eventually we got tired because, you know, because we're out of shape. And like, and we were sitting out of the bench just kind of like, you know, trying to recuperate. Recuperating. And yeah, it's like, I noticed, like, it's like every time,

every time he threw one. he would sort of react to us yeah and we were kind of like yeah we kind of I gave him the nod like I wouldn't be like applauding every time but if he hit the for that point after he hit that one if he like he wouldn't get him in regularly but if he hit the bed the rim looking the other way I'd be like yeah yeah yeah uh he seemed to create you you if you say anything to a kid you're nice to a kid once they just fucking want more attention yeah uh and so yeah we're like we're going to get out here so i like i said to him like have a good one kid and we started walking and i asked you like is that is that like bad they said that like should i have like you know

like just calling him kid i mean it felt little weird like he is a kid like it's fine right no but i feel like it's kind of sending to call something like you hey kid i don't know but i realized what's he going to do ask him his fucking name right like hey kid you're pretty good what's your name literally like just like six fathers would have just pounced on you immediately yeah how old are you you're really good at basketball um yeah it was horrendous right yeah yeah i feel like you know i feel like there's a mutual respect with the with the hoopers and me because i don't try to get i'm not trying to get in their games but it was a little bizarre um what's going on there's a lot lot of a discussion

over the weekend I believe on the Twitterverse or whatever the fuck you call it there's been I don't know where it just started but you know on Twitter you kind of see all the reactions to things yeah and so like apparently

someone started complaining about sex scenes and movies really about the like how did they just you know on TV shows whether they drag down the plot or like look it up see if you can find anything well this isn't what i wanted mr skin yeah

no uh discourse maybe or i don't know but like it got me thinking what why why do you stand up because i i do feel like it's overdone i feel like game of thrones has too many sex scenes probably uh i don't really understand that much why you need them any I'm not saying you shouldn't have them But like these people who like But if it's gonna be gratuitous Like I can just go watch porn

Yeah like they're not Anyone can't like I mean I don't think it's That's really much like oh but certain people You know everyone's got the Everyone's got phone kids have phones They want you know I'm not saying it should be watching it But that's your argument like you know But yeah they're not titillating enough

For the desensitized Right Porn Addicted population Yes it is an interesting thing Where do you fall on? You find something? Okay so this is one of one contribution from pop detective he said sex scene discourse is back again and

once again missing the point the question question isn't should sex be portrayed parentheses yes the question is how is sex portrayed is it consensual is it coercive whatever the power dynamics oh i'm so bored i'm so bored we're consent i'm like already bored yeah is it mutually satisfying is everyone having a great time yeah but But what if it's like a rape scene and an important movie about rape? Well, I think that even that guy's case might get an exception. I don't think he goes, like, is a rape victim enjoying it? Yeah.

I don't think he'd ask that. I'd be fair. He might, but I don't know the guy. I feel like that actually used to be a problem, like an old Hollywood films. Oh, where they were actually, they would, yeah, be like, oh, this isn't bad. Yeah, right. Or some shit, yeah. Oh, I was wrong.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's the majority of the discourse. I think people are talking about, like, you know, it's not an integral of the plot. Right, right. And it's just kind of there. I mean, Game of Thrones got a lot of heat for that one with the blonde girl and the Aquaman, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah. And, like, you know, because they was calling it rape. But this isn't rape. It's a, it's a fancy world. And, like, and he's a horse lord or whatever he was. Right. Well, I mean, I feel like wasn't Game of Thrones pretty, like, grounded about being like look this isn't this isn't good like it's not good that like a young woman has to like you know figure out

how to like sexually satisfy this guy who she was basically sold to yeah i don't think they were like this is like uh she wasn't the villain at that point i mean they made you the villain right but like later on but you know i don't think that that was part of her like we do it all along because she couldn't even satisfy the horse lord we knew she burned down westrose uh but yeah i just feel like you know i mean what are some great sex scenes the google this for me well honestly best movie top gun had a good one i was gonna say i was really you introduced me to top gun recently i'd never seen i opened you up

yeah the world of top gun i genuinely enjoyed the sex scene and top gun yeah it was funny it was fun to watch yeah but i had a lot of blue you know tom cruz is in some great sex scenes eyes wide shut has a decent sex scene right oh yeah days of thunder which you refuse to watch with me he's a stock car driver did a scene with him and Nicole Kidman where after you know post coitus he's got a little matchbox car I think or something and he's like going up her leg towards a pussy and like she's going ah you tease him but that was fun right you know Tom Cruise is a great

sexual chemistry of everyone in the world. There seem to be a lot of Large von Trier movies where sex is pretty is actually kind of the plot, like if not. Well, the Antichrist starts to have a really good sex scene, really hot, really slow motion, simultaneously occurring while a baby's jumping out of the window.

Right. Much like Eric Clapton, I imagine. So it's like it's a mixed message. You know? I mean, literally. But it's definitely integral to the plot, because because that baby jumping out the window caused directly by that porn actor's penis going into that actress's vagina. Well, it's interesting because you think about

that, you know, movie film Antichrist because, like, there's another, you know, pretty uh, poignant, uh, scene later on where that woman, because they, look, their baby dies and they get a little emotional about it. You know, that's the whole movie. Uh, but like, but like, it was at one point,

she, like, waits for his, penis to get erect where she gets them erect. There's like a lot of shit going on. And she gets up and then she like gets up and then throws a big rock as a wrecked penis. And it's kind of like, I guess it's kind of a metaphor. I'm only realizing that, but it's like a metaphor for like them fucking and the baby. Like the baby's a rock. Yeah.

You know? Right. The baby jumping out the window is the rock. Yeah. There's something there. And then there's also that weird movie, which I've never seen in full, but I've seen a couple of scenes from it called nymphomaniac. Right.

That's literally all just. Charlotte Gainsburg fucking. I don't know what Lawrence Rontree is trying to get across everyone. I mean, look, he's a talented filmmaker and you go, well, it's deep and it's, I'm sorry, it's not a

Marvel movie. I'm sorry, it's not Iron Man Four. And it's like, fair enough. It's dense. But when you break it down, what are most of these movies have to say? Not, I mean, like, honestly, one of the most, I feel like Apocalypse Now is one of the few movies where it was like, you know,

There was something, like, subtextual about it. Not even subtextual, but like, where the thing in the Bing Bean debate is, is an interesting idea? Like, you know, is it actually more merciful to be more brutal, you know, in the short term? Right. Like, these are interesting philosophical ideas, I feel, in Apocalypse Now. But that's kind of, most movies that have subtexts more just like, look at him. He's like, Christ on the cross.

Like, you know, like, graduate. I remember having a teacher in school and some film studies class, and it's like, and like you know doesn't hop in that scene he's banging on the thing like don't marry her I love her and you're like look at my Christ on the cross and like I just watched the comment

I told the story before I watched the commentary you know the DVDs at the time and I told him like look I watched the comedy the guy said they was a new church they couldn't they wouldn't let them bang on the thing and then you know eventually because he's supposed to bang like you know his fists and they were like no no no we just bought this fucking window

what you eat crazy and they compromised by he like spread his arms out so it wouldn't be and he's like it doesn't matter it's what's on the film it's like all right so what we're doing here you know it's like but the point it was a formative thing for me realizing old teachers all professors and teachers are jerks um but yeah um are there any sex scenes you can think of like what are some other great sex scenes do you have a list great sex scenes Oh, wow, there's a lot of lists. Sure.

Oh, don't look now. I've been meaning to watch that. Never saw it. Pursona. These are all... Burk Back Mountain. All right, that's iconic enough. But I'm saying, like, what, persona?

I mean, everyone likes Sigmar Bergman, but, like, what's that one? This is something called In the Realm of the Senses. Get me a real list, like, what has, like, porkies on it or something? What are we doing here? The Last Ceptation of Christ. That did actually have some interesting...

Barbara Hershey was pretty stacked in that movie, if I remember correctly. She had some cool tattoos, and she was looking good. Name something. You can't just... Babe, you can't just... I know, I know.

Name them as you go. I lost it. Just a second. Anyway, just go a different list. Just name as you go. Don't scroll so quickly. Atonement. Well, slow down.

What is atonement? I don't know This is why I don't want to say all of them But there's a blurb under Aton is a film about war, love, class differences, and regret But mostly it's a film about two people Who are incandescently horny for each other This doesn't seem fun

What else we got? Two days in the Valley Never heard of it I've never heard of any of these so far Scroll down Yeah This is why I was scrolled The middle ground here is all I'm saying

Oh 50 shades of gray Oh that is that But that look that wasn't really Maybe because I've, you know, actually watched porn, but that felt fake. That, like, well, it was definitely fake. No, sure, but it didn't feel like, I mean, I didn't feel like there was actually, uh, I like secretary. Oh, secretary. That was a good one.

When he's like, eat one pee. Yeah. And you get to have as many potatoes as you want. Oh, he gave her that? Yeah. I forgot about that. That was nice of them. So, anyway.

Wild things. Wild things. That's top. I mean, people, I guess it's problematic because it's about too. students who like uh like you know what you call it frame sexually frame their teacher yeah so it's not it's not really a paradigm or a what's the word a pair like a uh an accurate portrayal of a typical uh dynamic anything yeah the typical anything that happens right but that was a great sex scene uh oh yeah no that sex scene is really fun i like mad dillon she's hot i forget her name but yeah so you know

I mean, look, I think what we're finding here is they don't seem that necessarily. There aren't that many great ones. Midnight Cowboy didn't have a great sex scene, did it? No, I don't think so. I love that movie. I mean, what if John Voight and the, I think they did have the rape scene, but not a sex scene. Oh, really? At the beginning.

Well, you know. Oh, right. Yeah. Because they held them down, right? Joe Buck. Let's move on. Brokeback Mountain. Brokeback Mountain is on all of these lists, I guess.

Is there really a good. texting that or that's just they kind of allude to it i think they do kind of humping they're they do kind of show some hump oh nice i never i think i've ever watched it a little way through i want to see that though jillin hall just two rough cowboys i mean i don't think you were that rough rough and neither one of them really stack up you know yeah like you know he's ledger was good as the joker but like i don't think most actual cowboys would call them rough cowboys no yeah they wouldn't Jake, it was just beautiful eyes. All right, we can stop this.

Stuff scrolling. What? I'm not controlling? What? No, it's okay. Okay. So Seth Green, from, you know him from Buffy, right? Yes.

He created a show. Look up Seth Green, monkey. What's the headline read? Seth Green's monkey NFT was stolen. Right. And now he can't make his TV share. The board ape. It was the board apes.

So Seth Green bought these, we haven't talked much about it, but the NFT market seems to have crashed a bit. Yeah. It's not driving as much as it was. And these board apes, I mean, I think they're still selling for a lot of money, but like half of what they were.

And I don't know if it's directly related to the crash, but Seth Green, who's known as a, you know, You know, the son from Austin Powers, you know, Dr. Evil's son, that guy. Right. He bought some NFTs and decided because he, now he owns the rights to the character of this board ape that he was going to make a, like a sitcom or whatever, a show. They pitched. I think they proved it. I'm not sure where.

And it was going to be, it's like this weird, like who frame Roger Rabbit animated thing where the board ape is the character. He plays the bartender. and someone he fell victim to a fishing scam and someone stole these NFTs from him oh wow therefore stealing the rights to the character and now he can't make he like they've already shot the pilot I think and he can't make this thing anymore and he's like trying he knows who owns it now because of the digital blockchain I guess

and he's trying to get that guy to like sell to him I guess or give it to him and he's not he's not complying yet And he's very upset And I couldn't be happier Because this is the most jerkoff thing I've heard my fucking life Seth Green go fuck himself This is the dumbest shit I've heard

You bought I mean you didn't Because you bought a character These apes look You want to buy a board ape That's fine I never envisioned that anyone We're like

Oh I'm just I'll take these NFTs that I buy And I'll make Just draw an ape Draw a different ape You're fucking idiot You're just trying to be like All whimsical in the blockchain

You're trying to have some cool gimmick oh i'm part of the zeitgeist you're an old man who fucking someone asked for your password and you gave it to him but someone told you they were for the fbi you didn't ask your social security number how what kind of fishing scams you're full for you old middle-aged idiot trying to be all fucking cool with your nfts you haven't been relevant to the 90s and this is why you got scammed stupid set screen i couldn't be happier i watched the trailer it's so it's really dumb looking oh the trailer's out yeah i mean i can See if I can find it.

Oh, yeah. I know, I've actually, I've hated Seth Green weirdly personally for a while, and it's just because one time a person I used to be friends with on Facebook shared like a black and white meme of just Seth's green, like head on his fingers like this.

Yeah. And it was a Seth Green quote about how, you know, he doesn't believe in God, but he could still be a spiritual person. And I remember. Was he hanging out with James Franklin? and Jared Leto? I just remember just hating his guts from that.

What a fucking scumbet. I mean, that's just the most cynical thing I've ever heard of. This guy, I mean, he makes that robot chicken shit, right? Oh, right, yeah. Fucking, why don't you make something something his inclamation, you dumb fuck? What's he going to do? Not hiring me for robot chicken? Go fuck yourself.

So sick of this asshole. Oh, God. I don't believe in God, but I will, uh, here, have a drink. That's stuff green. Anyway Laura Derns also But in the news For different reasons

Because they have a new Jurassic Park coming out This is a movie episode This is the shooting and movie episode Yeah What about themes Well about themes Action Was there an old show called

Dinner in a Movie? Yeah that was a Wasn't that dinner in a movie Wait was that What's dinner in a movie? It was a thing you would do. What's dinner in the movie? I feel like there was a show though or something.

You're thinking of dinner for five? Oh, yeah, yeah. Dinner and a movie was American cooking and entertainment television program. What's who? We're shooting in a movie. Who was it? Presented by Claude Mann.

I don't know who that is. You brought us to a strange detour here. Laura Dern. Laura Dern. Yes, thank you. So they're promoting the new Jurassic movie where I think the dinosaurs have learned they're on the blockchain now. The dinosaurs. They're all in the blockchain and they're circulating through Ethereum.

They're biting children, you know. Maybe the velociraptors are, you know, we're trying to get them to stop school shootings. It's not working. But so they were interviewing Laura Dern and I guess it came up that, you know, how odd it was when she looks back that, you know, she was 23 and I guess Sam Neal was in his 40s when they made that movie and then they were supposed to be together She had a quote Yeah read me the quote

It felt completely it felt completely appropriate to fall in love with Sam Neal And it was only now when we returned in a moment of cultural awareness about the patriarchy That I was like wow we're not the same age question mark Look I got to say I'm not I mean that guy's that guy Sam Neal's character right Alan Grant is a guy

who like is so revered that this scientist guy who like this scientist who invented dinosaurs right right like he actually made dinosaurs flew to him right like it was like honestly the plot of Jurassic Park is that like this guy invents dinosaurs

literally clones them has a park full of and like but the investors are a little worried and so like can we get an expert here to like you placate our fears maybe and he goes well I did

create dinosaurs I mean I'm no one else is cloned dinosaurs get us a guy and he goes and get this guy so this guy is even more of an expert somehow than the guy who made dinosaurs that's how good Alan Grant is how good Sam Neal's character

is a dinosaur stuff right That, like, he's more important. His opinion matters more than the guy who invented dinosaurs. And yet, we're supposed to act like he, like, that's some fucking grad student who's also into, like, dinosaur adjacent stuff. I think she's a botanist, but a paleo botanist. Right. That she, like, oh, he had to, he had to work that hard to, like, you know, like, forget her to be interested in him. That's a good point.

He's the greatest dinosaur man in the world. Right. The guy who invented dinosaurs needs to get his approval. Right. And he can't pull like long, yeah. It's really not the same crime. How was he a predator? I mean, I get if he, like, got her drunk, but she seemed to be on his dig.

Like, you know, like doing work. Right. I don't, I, you know, she seemed to be qualified. I don't, it's not like she's some dits who he's like, hey, if you suck me off, I'll bring you on the dinosaur trip. Well, it's not, it's definitely not as like a, you know, much of like a sin as like, you know just cinematically like a sin as like some of the random matchups of just like here here is a here is a guy who's playing a loser right and this hot woman 20 years younger than him

is into him yeah right like that's the cliche like that's the one that like people call out this one it just isn't as strong because yeah they're they're frolicking together with dinosaurs this is like if a man can give you that it doesn't matter according to the movie i'm not saying this is in real life but according to the movie this is like they're i feel the equivalent is like she's a pretty decent cellist in like the in the in the in the in the

the London Philharmonic pretty pretty prestigious right she's the third second cellist pretty impressive and he's Mozart right like he's like oh he'd have to take it I want to fuck Mozart so we're there I might say he couldn't take it

but also he looked good in that movie he was a great looking guy he was a good looking guy can we step back to like women don't like like you know successful men in their early 40s? Yeah. Or mid-four? Like, that's a great time.

It's before you hit your 50s, that George Clooney looked at Sam, Sam Neal in his 40s. Right. He looks good. He looks better than he did when he was 20. Yeah. And also it's like,

the other thing is that like, in acting, I think, like people have a range. Yeah. Like, people are in reality and age. Right. But they have a range. Like, Laura Dern has always had, like,

she's a beautiful woman. Of course. But she's always had, like, sort of a more like kind of handsome mature womanly face like yeah even in blue velvet yeah maybe but definitely in Jurassic Park I got on to this because like that's where people retweet and he's going on like I thought she was in their 30s

well look no one said she was 20 yeah like it's like it's a movie right she's playing a rain oh but she was actually 22 these people are just going out of control with this shit yeah it's nuts he's the guy who invented dinosaurs needs to get on his knees and say please come to island yeah he had to be able to convince him right he'd like pay him a bunch of money and fund his project he should have been like hey asshole you want to go see a t-rex you fucking

hack all you academics to act like you better than me i just fucking invented a teorex once you come see you don't fuck can't believe it you want to see her with sam neil said about it sure she had great tits i pressured her and having sex with me and I don't regret it. Oh, my character pressure. It's part of my method acting. I knew I'd take advantage of her and I loved it. That's what motivated my scenes.

Okay, so Samuel said, I am 20 years older than Laura. Oh, actually, there's an exclamation point. So he said, I am 20 years older than Laura, which at the time was a completely appropriate age difference for a leading man and lady. It never occurred to me until I opened a magic magazine and there was an article called Old Geezers and Gals.

People like Harris. That's mean. Also, the first, at first it started feeling like he was like, like, it's like name rank in the, what's the number? Like the Geneva Convention, name rank in the serial number or whatever. Oh, you? Oh, right. It's like, it's like, I am 20 years old and older than older than a return.

It was appropriate. At the time, it did not seem appropriate, like very much. But the geyser thing, he was good-looking. Yeah. And then people were debating, film tours debating. Do they actually, were they even together? Because, like, they barely even seem to be intimate. And these people want, like, you know, they want them to be dry-humping next to a fucking velociraptor.

These people are out of their minds. People don't understand, like, relationships anymore. They think these two, like, professionals who are in the dinosaur world, having seen dinosaurs, you know what I do need to nut though he's like he's supposed to be like is he supposed to be like he's supposed to be like struck me off a little bit yeah well while they're stuck in the tree

or whatever oh well that was the kid oh never mind yeah god that was a different movie anyway so I don't know you know this whole there's a certain there's a certain strange thing going on

they've gone to they don't like the battles they pick always seem to be the dumb ones yeah is it's like how about you just we start with don't like rape people right yeah stop that and stop getting between like like young actresses and their money

yeah that was a big role for Lord oh she met a ton of money what do you think she bought her house off blue velvet yeah I mean I love blue velvet right Jeffrey nothing so anyway It's been fun. You got any of one of the plug?

I don't think so. Bring up, talk about. Hearts go out to. Darts and prayers. Whatever the better version of Darts and Prayers is. I mean, it's terrible. It's a hopeless situation. And it just takes out of the fact that it's not going to get better.

Probably. It's said, look, at a certain point, it's just like you don't get numb to it. like, no, no, it's like, don't get numb to the fact that we keep hitting you. It's like, all right. You know, people do like to shit on the thoughts and prayers stuff. And I think for good reason, but like, is this, is what we're doing really better? I think it is. Of course I think it is.

It's hopeless. Hey, well, that's a great point. If you don't like this, you know, then show up about the thoughts and prayers. Right. Because this is one or the other. There's absolutely no middle ground. Thanks so much for tuning in. you want to check out more comp we have the patreon patreon.com slash rate comp you got an extra

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