Kump - 128 - Kanye West's Little Ads

Episode Date: October 23, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss Kanye, spiking punch, getting rich with little ads, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. How was your week? It's been pretty good. We're having a party, aren't we? We're having a party tonight.

This is going to be one hell of a Halloween. It's just too early in the social calendar to be considered a Halloween party. I've read that Halloween party should only happen the weekend before or on Halloween. But I think that's dumb. I think they can happen at any point in October. Is it Esquire Magazine or is that some kind of homeless guys? you were talking to. Who made this declaration?

Who's making Halloween party etiquette pamphlets and handing them out in the middle of Washington Square Park or whatever? Well, look, there's all kinds of meddling betties out there with blogs who want to make up rules. They want to be the next Betty Crocker. Well, Halloween. The next good housekeeping.

This is true. And Halloween's known amongst women, right? As this thing where they, I mean, I don't say this, but they can dress kind of raunchy. These women can kind of put on these little bunny outfits and go hopping around New York City or wherever and just sending men into a state of affairs. Sending men into a tizzy.

Into with vittles. What does vittles mean? Isn't vittles like snacks? I guess. The men really get their vittles on Halloween night. My point is, um i don't know it's just i think it's fine right i'm excited i think it's fine you're making a nice punch i'm going to make a Halloween punch i'm trying to get some dry ice all right so are we

drinking the dry ice no you're not supposed to drink dry ice but you can put it in a little bowl underneath your punch bowl and it'll make it all smoky so someone's just going to think we're like we put a crack pipe into the bowl and it's just like oh your crack pipes staying lit i don't know that they do that they stay littered you have to like keep um i don't know if it would burns my i'm not experienced enough i'm sorry i don't have a catalytic knowledge what i mean encyclopedic knowledge catalotic i don't have catalytic knowledge of drugs in the paraphernalia but the point is uh yeah that sounds wonderful so you you envision in the you know it's going to be green and like it's going to like be like smoking and like you're

your hands and someone's going to think it's like it's like sulfuric acid like no it's just Halloween it's just Halloween punch it'll ladle it out for everyone it's a fun night I mean I'm surprised you're going with the punch why I mean I look I look kudos to you for not letting bad actors spoil the the apple bunch right but isn't like punch like party punch right I'm not saying Hawaiian punch or like having fruit punching you but the idea of a communal punch bowl isn't that kind of like what's the word like a roofy situation

what don't they usually use that for roofies wait no absolutely not I misspoke okay what I mean is like isn't it a trope yeah in movies often it takes place in the 50s right or 60s that like oh we're having a party at the school and we got this bowl full of punch

just and some old lady probably made that but we're going to be the wild cards throw some liquor into the bowl and now these women are vulnerable isn't that what the trope is well i think usually it's more like you get you you you spike the punch bowl so that you don't do anything you spike the i don't don't say you i've never spiked anything in my life all right i am not the guy hanging around the punch bowl waiting for you know My next rendezvous by, you know, by coordinated lying, if you want to call it that. Using miscreant punch as my way in. That's not me, ever.

Well, one spikes the punch bowl. Sure. So that they and their friends can have a good time. At the expense of who? At no one's expense. At the expense of maybe the adults who don't know that there's kids drinking. So they're not even trying to get some. like guy who they don't like maybe he's like a good school or maybe he's in a band who won't let them

in they're not trying to like at least get him to like you know crap his pants right i mean maybe look maybe that could be part of the scheme not everything drunk like you know getting someone drunk doesn't have to mean that you take advantage of them you know sexually you could just get someone drunk and then convince them to like quit their job um or like you know convince them to buy a bunch a land. Yeah, that they can't afford. Which is like not a bad idea. Not a bad idea.

Come to this, come as mean for unlimited free punch. We're going to go to jail though. I think there's actually, you're more likely to go to jail for like getting someone drunk or like to sell them land and like sexual abuse. I'm not saying it should be. I understand what's realistic, right? I feel like when an adult gets another adult drunk without the other adult's knowledge. it has a more sinister connotation

than kids just spiking a punch bowl so they can, you know, have a good time. Sure, I'll never understand sexual. You're thinking of individual drinks. People roofied individual drinks. No, I think it's a bowl. Well, I know that's a move too, but I feel like, that's why I'm so afraid of parties

I didn't want to throw on. It's because, like, you're just drinking on bowls and, like, someone could just dump whatever they want in there. Yeah. It doesn't even have to, like, you know, best case scenario is inhibiting you. Worst case, they're just putting, like, you know,

motor oil in you punch. And you're just drinking, and is just destroying your insides. Yeah. That doesn't seem like a... But why would your party guests do that to you? Why would my party guests do that to me? I'm not well liked.

I'm a bit of a liar. So, yeah, look, I don't know. To answer your question, I just don't know. Well, look, imagine you're a rapist, right? And, or just imagine a rapist. No, I actually won't imagine that. Or just imagine there is a rapist. Okay.

The rapist, there's nothing to gain by roofying a whole group of people because then everyone's going to know it was you. I would agree with that typically. It increases your likelihood of getting caught. The rapist's strategy is to, like, roofie one drink of one person who seems vulnerable. Did you read a book about this? Whose handbook did you read? it's just intuitive i guess all right so i'll take your word for it so they don't go after

the big bowls of of punch all right no i mean now it's just bugs and piss yeah people people probably piss in the in the bowl right i'm sure it's happened at least once no i'm so you you never piss in the punch bowl no all right have you no but i mean like i'm just you could do it and be funny I can picture you at a college party going, hey, everybody, who brought the punch? And then you just start, you know, urinating into the bowl that was, you know, someone did bring the, you know,

you never get an answer in my, in my, you know, estimate, but I don't think that would go. You just start, you just start pissing. And you're like, and you're going like, oops, did I make it better? And like, I was like, what? Like, she's really not even drunk. And she had, like, was she had a different part?

No, we just came from the library. and she had one like, you know, Bartles and James wine cooler. She just likes pissing in punch bowls. And the guy's like, why do you know so much about her? Because I'm in love with her. But I won't tell her.

I'm a weird creep, Rufie's punch bowls. You know, it wouldn't work out. It wouldn't work out. Yeah. That's actually a nice meat cute moment. She goes to piss in the punch bowl.

He goes to Rufie at. Right. And they get like, you're always pissed in a ball before anyone can drink my Roofie punch. And it's like, It's like, you got mail. You know?

You got mailed a sequel. It's just called it. You got mailed a sequel. Can we get this movie made? Can we, is anyone rich listening to this show? Can we get someone to like put up some cash so we can make you a movie quote, like within the quotes. Yeah. You got male, colon, the sequel.

And the plot is a man who likes to drug women at parties and a woman who likes to piss and the punch bullet parties. They lock eyes They lock eyes They lock horns Oh I'm somebody called them the lock horns I just got that The lockhorns You know what the lock horns are?

No Please bring up a picture Of the lockhorns if you would Or just look up the lock horns It's a comic strip I don't want people to see it Oh okay Yeah Brisbane

That should be fine Oh because they were a married couple And they lock horns Well I just got that After all these years Let's just see It's going to get bigger. If I know how to push all your buttons, why can't I find the mute?

Yeah, that's about right. That's about what I remember. It's, you know, as a kid, it's charming. You know, seeing your parents rage at each other commodified into a little digestible cartoon. It's relatable. It makes more sense in Dumbo, right? What am I supposed to get out of Cinderella? Right.

Wait for some guy to shove glass in my foot? Oh, sir. But the lockhorns. I enjoyed the lock horns. Why are we talking about that? Oh, they lock horns. That could be the tagline. Locking eyes and locking horns.

Right, yeah. And locking their drugs of it. Locking their victims in the cooler or something. I guess she's not a victim as much as just people who accidentally drink her piss. Right. I guess the victim. Yeah, that's a victim. Yeah.

I mean, but if that's, look, if you're at some kind of, you know, I guess that video, what was it, the DSA, the Democratic Socialists, and they were all like people with different disabilities. Remember, it was a classic video. Right. And I just imagine one person going, well, yeah, well, someone, like, oh, I, can we please make a ramp so I could get to the stage because I'm in a wheelchair? And then you stand up and go, well, I need something because I drank piss one time,

a girl pissed in the bowl. It just doesn't really seem like a trauma, the same way. way as not having legs or the ability to use them i could be wrong me i'm not you know i'm not a great leader yet welcome to the show welcome to the show what we have going on um Kanye's up this up to know good is that what's going on this has been a whole uh saga what is Kanye west Kanye West is A rapper

A musician A groundbreaking rapper Is he a groundbreaking rapper Or is just a really good rapper That's a great great initial question Kanye You be Kanye Connie are you a good rapper

Or are you a groundbreaking rapper Or just pretty good I'm Kanye Yeah I think he would say I think I'm groundbreaking I think he would say something About the Holocaust

Yeah But you know I don't know that wasn't him i know someone else there's a lot of uh if you're if you're a watchdog for that there's a lot going on this week or or at least two stories so it's hard to keep track from me but uh yeah Kanye a good rapper i like his raps a lot and beats yeah um he didn't create the idea of white lives matters right of course not yeah no i know that um but somehow he in the past week popularized it again and then started a company with kansas owens or something and then abandoned

it yeah did they actually give the shirts to people in skid row they did that's all right so connie west made he's he thought this this is great this is like when the lakers win the NBA finals when the pelicans win the super bowl they're actually also basketball so doesn't make any sense the point is there's shirts to be sold and he thought when i made these comments that some people call anti-Semitic most people did right whatever he said i thought the anti-semitic comments came out after the shirts okay fair enough he went to fashion week and he made and he did his white leather whatever point is he's like this is this here's my pop-up store and i'm going to sell a million shirts he got them printed just like when they i mean they show up to the NBA finals and both teams

have like winning hats right right but only one team can wear them and so much like that he he He really thought his White Lives Matters was going to be a big, big hit. And then I guess no one bought him or he didn't want to sell him. Right. So he gave him to a bunch of people who live in Skid Row, which is predominantly where the homeless, many who are doing drugs, maybe everyone. Yeah. But a lot of them. It's a place.

If you wanted to be homeless to do drugs, that'd be the place to go. There was a person who, you know, was being interviewed about this whole, this donation. Of boxes. Yeah. They just kind of dropped it off randomly. They did like an 18-wheeler just come and just leave its cab in the middle of the street. They just dropped the whole cab and left it. We're not the cab, the other thing, the actual cargo.

Right. Dumped the whole fucking. It's just a big container, a big metal container. I think they almost did that. Do you want to listen to some of this? Sure. White Lives Matter T-shirts. Yee debuted at Paris Fashion Week earlier this month.

Stephanie Arnold Williams showed us the shirt she got when Ye's friends pulled up Pope John Paul in the front, WLM on the back. They dropped off a big box here and told everybody to come here to pick them up. I'm like, this is not a good spot. I don't think you should bring them here. The ADL has called the phrase white lives matter hate speech. The question for many is, why would Kanye literally hand the controversy to LA's most vulnerable? No one we spoke with down here gets it.

Not the director of the Union Rescue Mission. So far, I'm kind of puzzled. It doesn't mean anything. What does it mean? What is, like, what are people envisioning, right? Like, first of all, is White Lives Matter hate? Like, technically, though, right? Yeah.

And also, I feel like even when it's used, and it's usually used to be a dick, right? It's not, no one's really, like, saying it, like, in, like, 100% earnestly. They're saying it, like, to be a wise ass or, like, to take the steam out of Black Lives Matter, whatever. I mean, you can say, well, don't White Life Man? Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just, heard anyone make the point they weren't trying to like you know be a dick or like be a troll or whatever or they didn't like within two minutes of saying it reveal that they also think that like

jews are like carting in immigrants to destroy the white race sure yeah i mean like that it is sometimes they don't seem to buy into the idea of systemic races right whatever i mean i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not saying i'm not whoever i'm not the guy in a college who teaches you things and like right that's not i'm not going to die on this hill of like being your teacher yeah um but my point but yeah it's you it's a let's not let's not pretend i don't want this like one thing i won't abide by is what you mean it's just a sentence is what's wrong with that sentence like just can we just let's not pretend it's not what it is you know it's also it's also not the worst thing ever written look the fact that the guy

who made the bunch of shirts famously saying it like the next day came out and said i'm going and out hard after Jews. Like, it's like... Which is a entirely different meaning. Defcon 5? Yeah. What's DefCon 5? Well, DefCon is the system they use in, I think, Norad,

which is where they shoot the nuclear missiles from. And then when you're at DefCon 5, you're at nuclear, like, it's a nuclear alert level. Now, I think counterintuitively, Defcom 1 is actually like the more important, like the... It goes down, I think. Okay. You remember DefCon if you ever watched movie War Games. Hmm. which I know you've seen,

but I guess you're so immersed by the dad buttering that piece of bread and then putting on the corn that he missed the whole DEFCON thing. But DefCon is more of an alert readiness. Yeah. Right. So he's saying, I'm on, I'm on alert.

Right. You know, but he's, that might just mean he's going to, you know, um, write down notes about what he sees. Make,

make a nice rap. No, look, it's a weird thing. The guy's obviously, you know, going through a rough path. and he's got some issues um yeah look that's the other thing that's going on here which is that

i don't know like it's like it's like yeah like is he genuinely anti-semitic is he a mentally ill person being exploited i think he's mentally ill to an extent and like you know and it's hard and also he's famous and rich and he's a genius and you know creative genius yeah and uh and you can't deny that like you know you can say you don't like it but he's clearly uh whatever he's incredible I'm not going to justify Kanye West is really good of music. He's a great rapper. Yes, and Beatmaker. And, yeah.

No, it's pretty prodigious. Yeah. And, uh, and people's gonna like your shoes. I'm not a shoe head, but point is, what's my point? What was I saying? Help me out. Uh, so, so. What are we talking about?

I don't know. We got lost in the weeds. No, the point is Kanye, uh, oh, look, is any of his music, anti-Semitic? Not that I know. Right, like he's made music for 20 years more or whatever. Yeah. He's like, he's a great rapper boy kid and never. So like, you know, everyone loves his raps.

Everyone loves his shoes. He has one week where like, you know, why don't people give him like, here's the thing. Give him a little bit more leeway. I think he's earned a little leeway where he can wear white lies mad and go, all right. Like this is in poor taste in my opinion, but like he's probably going for something. But the guy who's, I think he gets back into a corner by the public who like, Why are you wearing a white light matter? Well, now I'm going to sell him with Candace Owens.

Welcome to Kanye World. Wait, so did it happen? Like, was he just wearing one, like, before the whole Candice Owens said? I think he wore it the fashion week. I think Candice Owens also did. Okay. I could have it's totally wrong. But my point is, like, they're trying to rabble rouse.

You gave him a rabble. And he went with it. I mean, whatever. I mean, if I was part of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League or whatever, I would say, look, he's, he's got a lot of raps about his bomb, about, uh, Ferraris or Lamborghinis and, uh, mercy, mercy, mercy Lago, it's a good rap. Uh, point is, I never heard him say any of the stuff in a rap. There's anti-Semitic stuff. Mm-hmm.

So why don't we go, maybe he's having a bad week. Maybe he's like, you know, I mean, he had that whole thing with the Trump and the maga hat, and that seemed to blow over. Right. He's trying to get controversy, right? But I don't think he's a sitting. I don't think he's like a TikTok guy who's like just trying to, I think he's just, you know, he, he isn't like that Pete Davidson's, you know, nearest kids.

Yeah. Now, like, I mean, that's just, that's not his right to say you can't date Pete Davidson. It's every woman in America's right to date Pete Davidson. You can't be denied that, right? It's like owning a gun. You just can't be denied that. Right. You can say it's not a good idea.

Right. But you can't deny them the right to do it. I think he called him a heroin addict, which I've never heard anywhere else. I'm not saying it would surprise me, but I just have no reason to, I've never heard that he is so he might he might be exaggerating a bit with vis-a-vis Pete Davidson yeah it doesn't need to be over explained to me why so why why Kanye West would hate Pete Davidson it makes complete sense oh you don't like another man like helping rate whatever I mean I doubt Pete Davidson's like helping raise the kids he's probably just like he's probably like put his hand like he patted

the kid in the head and go yeah you mind me of a of one of those french fried things from the McDonald's commercials and then he like just passes out he's collapses onto the floor you remind me A frog guy. He has like a mild heart attack and like wakes back up. I don't know. But I get you call that raising a kid, sure. But why would Kanye like that? No, it's not handling it the most mature way.

But you know, I feel like a lot of people just going, yeah, look, Kanye is like the best case scenario for like someone of mental illness, isn't he? I don't know if he's the best case scenario. I feel like the best case scenario would be he's on some meds consistently. and he, like, you know, isn't exposing his family to all of this crazy public chaos. But, like, I think he's the worst case scenario. I think if you look at, like, the arguments about whatever, mental health, whatever, that like neurodivergence, that like, oh, yeah, I just learn differently, right? Like, I don't fit in your box, but you want me to learn this way.

And that's why I didn't do well in school. And that's why I can't get a good job. I'm not saying I buy that line of logic all the time, but whatever. Kanye is a man who, let's just assume he hasn't been, I don't know, I'm not his doctor. He is a Grammy winner. Everyone buys his shoes. Everyone, he's just rapping, making beats. He's a genius.

We all get his benefit of his genius. Yeah. And he has a one. So once every 10 years, he comes out and makes him anti-Semitic, you know, rand and like, you know, makes people feel unsafe. I mean, whatever. Look, I think that people would be responding to this very differently. Yeah. If the Daily Wire wasn't weirdly involved, if it wasn't being amplified by, like, right-wing media by Tucker Carlson.

Okay. Like, I think that, like, it would just be like, oh, Kanye's being crazy again. So you think they're, you think they're exploiting Kanye West? Guys like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. Well, they seem to be trying to play it both ways where they're like, they want the proximity to him. Right. but they just want your kids to think they're cool but they're not saying like you know and they won't say like that was definitely anti-semitic he's an anti-Semite but but like they also won't say

but obviously they're not come just explicitly saying yeah he's right to say that about Jews you think Ben Shapiro's like going up to his kids and like show him with his phone showing them and you're like hey look it's me and ye talking about international banking I'm cool Probably, I mean, he's probably just, he probably just tells him to go swimming in their pure gold swimming pool in their bedroom. They got a lot of money. It does have a lot of money. Good for him. Anyway, uh, so I doubt, I doubt he's, he probably is not doing that.

But that would be fun. Yeah. Ben Shapiro rapping with Kanye. Oh, my God. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine, do you think, like, Ben Shapiro would just pull a gun out in the middle of the music video and just start going, like, You all better. Daily wire, you know it's fire.

Put it on a... This is a gun. I got a gun. You better watch out. I got this gun. I'm not going to rapping. Oh, I think that's pretty good wrap. Yeah.

Daily wire, you know it's fire. This is a gun. Anyway, didn't Benjamin. Shapiro have some other thing going on? Um, well, uh, there is, there is something between him and,

uh, Ethan Klein. Ethan Klein from the, uh, H3, H3 podcast and or show. Yeah. It's both, right?

Right. I think it's cool a podcast. Yeah, it's a podcast. We got the bomb of that. Uh, so what, uh,

what happened with Mr. Ethan Klein and Kanye? Um, Ethan Klein said something pretty, uh, out there on his podcast. And now he, it seems, I think he's banned from YouTube. Was he start another podcast of Andrew Tate?

Is that the announcement? Is that what he said? You can't do that. We can't. Well, no. I thought I could. Look, if we ever want to get monetized again on this show, I don't think we should say exactly what he said. Probably not.

I mean, I don't know what's so controversial about this show that you feel like we can't sell, you know, ED medication or whatever. No, no. People who by- Give us the grimy ads. Yeah. I guess the fact that we make people feel grimy for needing ED meds is part of our problem. Hey, you know you're less than.

Your body doesn't work in a way that women really don't respect. So why don't you just take this pill and don't ask what's in it? We won't tell you when, you know, you're going to take it anyway, you greedy little pig. Get it. Get it going down there. No one likes this. um but yeah uh but do you i mean do you know what he said he says look he basically got so now do you was he mad about ben chapiro it was about con yeah so he was mad that ben shapiro was

like helping conier do the white lives matter shirts or whatever yeah or just platforming him in his opinion whatever yeah look in that part i understand i understand that it's just kind of being grossed out by the cynical attitude of like people towards someone who's saying something kind of anti-Semitic and like, you know. Because Ethan Klein's Jewish. Yeah. And so he took offense that Ben Shapiro is not resisting enough. No pun intended.

Right? This is a holocaust thing. Resist, right? I don't know that he's being Ben Shapiro. That he's being. Well, he's made, like, I really know about Ben Shapiro. I don't agree with his views typically, but like, he doesn't seem to like give a quarter to anti-Semites.

But he is. Is he? Okay. Well, I mean, well, at the very least, it's like, well, at this point. He said something. He definitely said. something that was uh look i'm not trying like like again i'm not trying to whitewash what he said let me put it this way i think that in my opinion ben jpiro is and he does but like uh you know

but that's a complex point to get up across because he's the owner of the daily wire that includes kansas owens blah blah you know it's like it's hard for my point i'm trying to say it's like the diminishing the thing it's hard for me to tell a jewish man to be more offended by someone who's being anti-Semitic when that man could also give you a bunch of free shoes for your kids fair enough i mean we're like exclusive shoes because you can afford shoes but some of these shoes i think are like hard to get and you could come into the studio you go hey we're gonna i'm gonna say a bunch of antisemitic stuff but here's the the blue one yeah the blue sneaker your kids are gonna love the blue one or the red one or they are they have ever any of these shoes have more than

one color at the time then i can see what the whole the fuss is about they like i like those kind of shoes right we have like two colors yeah amazing um maybe we should have Kanye on to tell them about the shoes yeah for sure point is he says something he said something he'll get quarter too do you think he has shoes with lights on them i mean if he does LA gear is going to sue him or who did it was LA gear and who else had the lights Reebok had the ones in the back but LA gear they call them LA lights and they went in the side they had them they were dope Oh, nice. They're a big fascination back in the early 90s.

Kids having lights in their shoes. And yet they were still getting kidnapped all the time. I guess maybe, maybe. Why would they protect him from kidnapping? Well, you think like, oh, it's dusk. Like, where's my kid? Oh, there he is. It was shoe lights.

No one's grabbed him. But I guess also like, you know, whoever these men are, take children. Maybe they use the lights. Right. There's some pickings. anyway Kanye and Benjamin so Shapiro Ethan Klein says something the effect of

like if there's another Holocaust then like I hope Don't complete the thought I think you can fill in the blank But he's not he's not his priority Yes And Ben Shapiro I think it was a classy move basically says I would hope his family was safe Yeah Which is you know

Yeah look there really is Do you believe that? No I don't think, I mean, he's fair. I don't think Ben Shapiro, which is, you know, which is that on Ethan Klein? I don't think he's bad. I think he's just to spend it for a week, which seems like, you know, he was very much, I don't know, he's also a Jewish guy.

Am I allowed to, like, have a stand here? Yeah, sure. I mean, I want some of, I want money. Arguably you're the least biased person in the situation. Okay, I think either one of them should give me some money. They both got a ton of money. And so I'd really love some of that. Um, or some shoes, you know, I'll grow into them.

But, uh, the Klein, you know, Klein's, Klein's being a bad boy. We should, why, why, why, why we, why didn't we think of this? Yeah. I mean, I feel like if I had said that, which I never would. No. It would be taking way worse. I mean, they suspended him for a week. I feel like I would be, like, put in jail if I said that.

I mean, uh, whatever. Only Jewish people can say it. to each other. Well, they can't, but... Yeah, I don't know. Is his wife, what's his name, Hilda? Are they, are they gonna, is she gonna keep doing the show while he's suspended or is, I guess the show is suspended?

The show's suspended. We really gotta learn how to get some controversy. We gotta, I don't know, we gotta go, we gotta start doing pranks maybe and so that people, but real ones, not like he's like, you know, fake prank shows out there. We got to start, or like, I mean, we start. Violent pranks? I don't know about violent. I mean, that's just assault.

with a video camera. That's just that movie Menace's Society where they taped themselves shooting the guy in the deli. No, I'm talking about this idea that like, I don't know, I'm trying to, it would be like us selling stuff.

Yeah, we sell, we sell stereos that have bricks in it. That's an old classic, right? But also, you know, human pieces, nails that stick out. Something like Hellraiser where you grab it and it sticks the nails into your hand.

But you thought you'd get a nice iPhone, but you got nails in your hands. your hands those kind of pranks i'm not talking about like that is a violent prank well it's it's got tinges of violence but it's really more fun uh it's campy it's can't be it's can't be it's violence that you can blame on the person it's like evil dad like sam rame it's evil dead it'd be horrific it'd be like the craziest thing in the world uh but you know we watch evil dead it's just fun that's how our pranks would be perceived even though there would be people you know collateral damage or whatever hopefully we can you know maybe we make enough money to pay them off and it's a pyramid

scheme. Yeah. But we, you know, or maybe we just, um, you know, all right. So there's white lives matters. This black lives matters is the thing, right? And then there's white lives matters. Then there's also the blue lives matters, which is the cop thing, right? What if we start green lives matter? What is the green? What is a green life? What do you think it is? Um, an Irish person? Maybe. Sure. Um, maybe. animals or flora? Okay. Anything else?

Are you saying the selling point is the mystery? Well, I don't think that's a selling point per se. I think that gives us flexibility to make whatever, you know, what do you think it is? I don't think people are going to buy it because it's a mystery. I think they're going to be buying because they think it's something. They're going to fill in the gap and buy for that reason. I don't think people generally buy things because they're, because they're, they're, they're intrigued by the vague message they're not intrigued by the vague message the point you're missing

the point yeah this is not vagueness for vagueness's sake people aren't paying a premium for vagueness they're paying a premium for whatever they think this means whether it's hateful or or progress pro nature yeah or something like is that oh green stands for money cool but they'll keep buying our shirts is the point that's the goal buy the shirts and then like you know But that's like, I'm just saying there's enough different colors now that like, you know, maybe we make orange lives matter. Oh, you mean Trump? All right, sure.

There'll be those people. We just make every color, except for blue, black and white. It's not a bad idea. Brown lives matter. I guess people just say people who are referred to as brown people. I don't ever say that, but. Yeah, I never say that. We won't do, we won't do anything that people could be called.

Right. So it's just green. No one's called green. No one's called orange except for Trump. That's profitable probably. Fuchsia. Future Lives Matter. Periwinkle.

Periwinkle Lives Matter. What if I may have shirts that says periwinkle Lives Matter? It's a box of crayola crayons and it says official crayola merchandise. They try to sell up to schools. Like kids are really into coloring. I'm just trying. This is just a good idea. This is just something that would make money.

Right. Well, that's the goal. I mean, it's surreptitious. It's dishonest. It's going to, you know, it could end up. I could end up. I could end up in jail for this. The way I look, the way I talk, the way I come across.

Someone's going to, some DA is going to try to put me in jail if I do this. But we can make some money at least. It feels like the kind of thing that would, that would really get a bump from like a good, like, DVD, from like a good, like, late night infomercial. Sure. Okay. where like where it was just like people in the different color shirts lives matter can you find me doing interviews about like random stuff can you find me a clip we i don't think we played on our

show in the past but i love it uh it's just see if you can find infomercial tiny little ads i forget this guy's name he's great he's dead now he's a tragic end of his uh yeah this guy let's bring up a video like that hold let's see this is one of most incredible things that i have seen the second way to make money that i stumbled on to was placing tiny classified ads in the newspaper if you create and test one tiny classified ad in the newspaper that makes just 30 to 40 dollars profit in a week it could make you a fortune i mean i just captivated the mind of a young Ray. Yeah. Because I knew. Here's part of my problem.

I'm too cynical. And I, like, me, I'm not saying, I deserve a medal because I realize this guy is, uh,

is, is, is, is, is full of it. But I mean, I just don't even entertain it. But I mean,

I would love to know what someone who bought this program thought he was saying. Like, what are the tiny ads? What are we talking about here? Why, why were the tiny ad make any money? I mean,

look, if your tiny ad makes 30, 40 bucks a week that might seem like that much but what if you multiply that by 20 because you have like why would it make 40 bucks a week what is this ad you think you're just like you can write anything in a newspaper and people will call it and buy it maybe i don't think so i mean i think he killed himself this guy really well i mean because you know the justice department oh right yeah something let's play a little more because the secret is learning how to take that one tiny classified ad that just made 30 to 40 he's really emphasizing how tiny the

is it is it because he thinks like oh you can afford no more you this is not just for the fat cats you can afford to get in on this or does he just think it's a cute image is putting in your head tiny little ads i think tiny little ads i think the specificity of it right maybe convinces certain types of people that it's real like that's a great point like if i'm selling you um like a bowl of like just of hummus right hardened on my counter but i'm telling you look this is this is a delegate right is you know i people you look at and you go who you ever wonder who's the first person to try a lobster you know it's like it looks so crazy same thing of this who's the first person to try a bunch of dry up hummus in a bowl but it's brilliant because he's what you do you you heat up the stove

375 you put this on a pan with a little bit of butter for 10 minutes and you see my point it's a ball of dry hummus i'm just so grifting this guy but the details you know right yeah tell them about my kids and how, you know, they fell down the stairs and they need surgery. And, you know, you know, you could ask why they fell on this. I didn't do nothing. But the point is, I'm just elaborating on your point about specificity. Yeah. I had it a lot to that.

$2 profit in a week. And to realize that you could now take that same exact ad and place it in up to 3,000 other newspapers around the country that's what i did i mean he has not even told you what he what he sells you know this could be this i mean this couldn't be more vague but he's on a beach yeah i mean would you buy anything about the beach right in this context like because because you're not seeing the beach you're not seeing the lovely beach you're just seeing the waves what's a great point like and it's like he's just all he's on like the side of uh the p c h yeah he's pulled He pulled his van over on the side of the Pacific Coast Highway.

I'm not sure if he can get to the world. But, like, Malibu is kind of like that. We're like, I don't think he's a lot of beach in Malibu. Right. And he's wearing that weird collared shirt that looks so strange on the beach. Oh, yeah. There's something very disturbing about this infomercial. It's not surprising to me that he killed himself.

Yeah. I mean, he only, I don't think he did that a shame. I think he just did because they were like a bathtub for him in jail or something. But I don't know why I had to tell him police his suicide. Hey, look, he didn't do it for the right reason. But yeah, very, very odd guy. I found tiny classified ads that made $30 to $40 profit in a week. And I placed those ads.

It's being filled on like a Dutch angle, too. Yeah, it's a little bit like a, yeah. It's bizarre. So it's like the Thor movie, the first Thor movie, the castle of Dr. Calgary's cabinet from the 1920s or 30s. And this ad are the only actual real-life examples of a Dutch angle I've ever seen. If you're not familiar, you're Dutch angles, when you put the camera on, like, a 45th. That's how I generated over $5,000 a week out of my one-bedroom apartment.

And in my making money package, I'll show you some secrets. That's what I was going to say I'll show you my penis. you buy my makeup i'll show you my junk pretty good people usually people complimented a lot of them you don't have you don't have to um but yeah so i'm not sure why um how did we get into this guy i i don't i forget i forget what even like you know i'm supposed to be doing here i just i really regret not getting his like actually can he get on ebay what's this guy's name tiny little ads Don LaPree

All right I'm gonna look on eBay real quick Let's just let me Bring it so we can bring it up we need to Look up Don LaPree on eBay See anyone has these kits Because I was supposed to say I regret getting it But maybe maybe I can get it on eBay

Vintage They're calling it vintage Well there's a there's a tape A cassette Okay I'm I'm not showing this I mean yeah we'll just I was buy before

the episode goes out. I was going to say, I don't want to drive the price up. What? Are you imagining that there's someone watching this who would, who would buy this just so you couldn't have it? Or I'm driving the price up.

We're trying to extort me, try to sell it back to me in the profit. Yeah. Look, I am going to buy the Donald Pre-Cassette. I'll need to buy some kind of cassette deck also to play it. And we'll, you know, he's not alive anymore. So I can't get in trouble for playing his, like, premium content, right?

I don't know. Like, is this the equivalent of someone putting, like, a Patreon episode on YouTube? Me buying it if I'm playing it? Well, but do it on the Patreon. Well, no. I mean, that's just, that's, that's, Patreon on the license to just do that. We need a lawyer up because I really want to play this tape. Do we know a lawyer?

Can we get a lawyer? Look, I don't think that Donald, we've played stuff. I don't think that Don LaPri is more protected than Superbook. That's good. Well, I don't know. Donald Preet touched more lives, I think. So, yeah, like, you know, we'll put a cap on this for now, but look forward to more Don LaPree content.

I mean, I feel like, can we just make a podcast about Don LaPri? They do all these different podcasts now. Like, where's Richard Simmons or like, you know, why is the Earth dying the podcast? Can we have, like, searching for the whole time, we just act like we don't know he's dead? What happened? him like it's clearly documented what happened to him

if you do a cursory Google search but we're just we just oh man that could look that could be if we if you've been a podcast about a man who had you know tragically ended trying to find him and you corded Patreon or whatever go funding donations for like this ongoing effort to find him

that's fraud right probably every good idea I have is fraud I have a lot of like not great to bad ideas that aren't fraudulent But anything where I feel like that can make money It's also fraudulent Yeah I don't know why I'm not a worse person And actually it's what I can do these things

Well this is the strategy We need a style of intermercial like this Right For future lives matter Future Lives Matter Future Lives Matter Future Lives Matter Your idea

That was I forgot about that Right so green fuchsia periwinkle uh lavender um maybe we're throwing dutch lives matter it just sounds funny yeah and uh pretzel if you see pretzel lives matter that feels trivial the point is not to like take away from you know the original cause it's just to exploit it and make money right you put pretzel lives matter that just seems like you're making some stupid ironic joke so i'm sure you might buy a hot topic you know or that would be you know whatever We'll move on.

What else is going on in this world? Stacey Abrams. Now, who is who is Stacey Abrams again? Remind me. We're in the audience. She is the governor of, she's not the governor yet.

Of Georgia. She wants to be the governor of Georgia. She's a power broker. She wants to be the governor of Georgia, but wasn't she also? I thought she was governor some other time. I thought she was like

the head of their election. I thought she was behind. That's right. That's right. She's during, she's done the last election. She was supposed, they say she was instrumental

and getting Georgia to the Democrats. I guess Georgia's not typically Democratic. No. No. Historically, I think it's pretty red. Okay. Is that I mean, because, you know,

people, people think that the Republicans did slavery, some people. But, you know, the Democrat, you know, they'll remind you. the Democrats were actually, weren't they the ones in the past?

That has nothing to do with the South, though, versus the North. Well, there's a lot of baggage for the South. I'm just making it clear that Georgia, I wouldn't assume Georgia was Republican. Oh, I see what you mean. You know, I'm very open mind. I know both parties have a lot of different things going on. Wait, so you think like the Dixie Crats from the 1800s are still in charge of Georgia? You know, maybe a cross-section.

You know, a little this and a little of that. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, no, I clearly know that part, look, it's a troll move, right? This is the kind of a thing in general. We just say, you know, actually the Democrats were, like, more racist, which, like, you know, is true. It's just not usually appropriate when the, or that's brought up in an argument. Like, no one's taught.

We're not discussing them, like, you know, people aren't typically discussing the pros and cons of political parties 70 years ago's platform. Right. But it is true. So I don't want to be one of those guys. She's just like, well, of course he was. Republican Georgia. They're slays for Christ's sake. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. No, the Republican Party was a new party at the time. It barely existed. To quote Michael Jordan, Republicans buy sneakers too. And also they buy my shirts, hopefully. So I don't care. I mean, also, I'm also like, what am I politically?

Um, a rat. You're a little rat. A little rat. I was at any political party. Yeah. I'd love to be the guy who sells out of party, but not in any... You're waiting. I think you're waiting.

I get the sense from you that you're sort of waiting to be courted. Yes. Which I think is... You're ripe for courting and nobody wants to court you. Well, that's a very harsh way to put it. You make me once I'm very eager and also very unloved. But I can't argue on the front of it, on the face of it. I try to court you sometimes.

Right, but you got nothing to court with me. I love you. We're getting married, but what you want me to do? Like, you know, like, convince a bunch of people to, like, you know, donate to my campaign just so I can funnel it to your, you know, whatever, beauty pageant scam. You got not, you got, you need chips in the game. That's what politics is. I need to get, like, a few thousand people, and I can become an alderman.

And I just, they just do whatever I, like a couple thousand people just to be loyal to me. And then some, some congressmen, some senator who's running some guy, the guy who started, some awful pornography site is now going to be the governor wants to be the governor of New York or the congressman from New York oh right yeah that he made a porn hour's oh I just was making something I was thinking some like I don't even want to say his name but like some of the worst legal porn stars you can think of really brutal people I'm assuming a situation where that guy is running for governor right which is absurd no but there is a guy who made a porno to run for governor yeah very odd tell me about that if you remember I think that the just

of it was that he made this porno film and released it to raise awareness about the fact that he's like his platform as like pro sex worker that it's like going to legalize sex work he's not in power yet right no so this guy literally like butt dialed a sex video to his wife or somewhere at work and like immediately he was like i'm running for governor yeah that's oh no no no i was that's like when p towns and although it turned out to maybe be true i guess Where Pete Towns was like, no, no, no, no. I was making a documentary about how easy he used to get, you know, sensitive child content on the internet.

Yeah. I put my credit card in without thinking. Seems odd. But usually, I wouldn't even think Pete Towns would know where his credit card is. He'd have some servant. But, you know, but not for that card. I don't know. Point, look at Pete Townsend if you don't follow.

My point is this guy did the same thing, although he wasn't in the Who. And that's why he's running. so he made what kind of what was the tape like did that have a story i think it's like a very vanilla relatively vanilla was it was a van there was in a hotel room oh it should be in a van should have been a knock off of uh no it should have been like really uh it should have been really disgusting well just more fun just like you know him doing the thing where like you know he's having the girl like pose okay you now can you bend oh now can you pull your pants like It's weird when they get super specific,

and it's not like a weird, like super specific type of video, but it's so like, okay, can you raise up your left stocking, but then your right one, can you drop in an inch? I've never seen anything like that. You watch very specific things. You're only watching the free clips. You're not waiting for the free clips to become, you know, free for a weekend.

You know, the premium video for free deal where, you know, be clicked. Point is, I, I, that this we should provide this service we should direct we should provide video content like content services to politicians we can make really tasteful um political pornography and i don't mean like oh here's someone who looks like this right because i mean that was you know i was wondering if like i couldn't like i couldn't i couldn't i was looking for the video actually i couldn't find it but uh i'm sure oh sure but what no i's fine why i'm sure you couldn't

I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it. You still want me to see how many times you viewed it. It's going to show up in the clicker. You want you to bring it up. It's going to say, watch, watched 50 times from this IP address. All of them in a one hour time frame, just looped over and over. Love it.

But, um. I love the part where he, like, made the girl wear a White Lines Matter shirt. Um, go on. But I was, I was kind of curious about whether it had any, like, political. messaging in it sure like do they does he fuck this this this uh porn actress and then go like vote for me that's what that's that's your that's lucy's that you just heard lucy's uh approximation of a uh how would you put it political message yeah have a sex with a woman and then dismissively saying vote for me and the kind of condescending and like almost like a weird

gotcha moment where it's like did I do something wrong did you just trick me I thought this was consensual vote for me that's you that's how you like that would be if we were talking about

next like web 3.0 level politics hey you had Carl Rove and Steve Bann you know swift boat veterans with truth yeah James Carvel we're the new kids on the block we got crazy political strategies we're going to do things that like blow people's minds they're going to look back like almost like

the Brexit deal. Like I did the Brexit thing with Cambridge and Analytica, right? They're pushing the boundaries of what's legal and ethical and it's like, I'll let Lucy explain. Okay, so you have sex with this woman on a video

and then you say, vote for me. We're like, I was wondering if like the porno itself had a little storyline that was related to him running. Like if it was like a woman who was like, oh, thank you for all you've done for this city.

And then she blows. Well, that look, that's fair and that's actually better than what I was going to say because you you're tapping into now you're tapping into the primal political engine yeah which is not because I was going to say I had his vision of him you know having sex like a Reagan mask on uh and she's reading his like you know brochure campaign brochure or or speech which is but yeah you're right people just want to know he's a good guy so he you know yeah in your version he's uh what what was how does he indicate down I forget what you said?

What did you just say? The girl goes like, thank you for all you've done for the city. Right, thank you all you've done for your city. Taking that bribe to get my brother off that murder charge. Whatever. Yeah. Thank you for allowing that crooked judge to let my fraudster husband go free.

I mean, what would, what would she be thanking him for? That's important. What do he do in your mind, this guy? Maybe, I mean, the simple. thing would be she'd be thanking him for legalizing sex work that's too on the nose thank you for outlawing uh plastic straws which i'm going to go out there the comp podcast is not a fan of that law

because paper straws really are terrible paper straws are garbage i do love turtles though if you i think this overstated turtle turtle threat came out of nowhere in my mind now it would have anyway because i don't pay attention to the ocean oh right we were watching we were watching a tic-tok or an Instagram channel that was, or God. It was an Instagram thing. An Instagram account. It was Ocean Life or something. It was great.

Honestly, the ocean's great. Lots of really great videos on Ocean Life. Love it. A video came up of a seal. Not Ocean Knife. Ocean Knife is a much more raunchy and brutal channel. This is important. A video came up of a seal struggling with a paper, with a plastic bag over a hotel.

Struggling to get that condom wrapper open. it had a plastic bag on its head and some environmentalists were taking it off and then he ran free into the ocean and you said your take on this was that seal looked like it was having fun it did hey what like the seal oh can we find it um maybe no no maybe look up look up go to instagram and look up ocean life see if you can find it But my thing is, you know, that's a, that's a cute seal. We'll just go back up, go back up for a second. I don't people to see that. Look at these pictures and seals.

They're so cute. They are cute. But, uh, look like they're having a lot of fun too. I would go to Instagram and look up that ocean. I'll just tell you one second. Instagram. Because I follow them.

Who do I follow? I think this is more or less it. Why is it not here? Why are we going to be the, first it's the most recent thing I followed this is oh here we go yeah underscore ocean that life two underscores you found it I think this bit yeah okay let's watch this similar situation anyway was that so bad

hey was it so bad hold on there okay you guys ready yeah they saved him it's cute I mean I don't think that's that seems like they have in a burlap sack or something look at it it's been tied up multiple times

by us is that what you're saying look we're talking about multiple times it's for people the lighting was up you kept getting bad lens flare

and redo the take uh no I think the other one was more he had like a bag around his neck yeah it seemed more like a takeout bag or something right and uh

what was my take on it they would seem like he was having fun yeah I think he was having fun and I also think they might have these people who made a video initially which I don't want to blame the account I think the account just repurposes people's videos which I normally don't love but it's

it's just I mean whatever I just don't care about wildlife if that's your gig then plenty of people take my tweets put them on Instagram and they have like aggregate your account and maybe I get a follower out of it yeah I don't complain because whatever but like I know they're saying to himself oh I'm actually giving you

exposure it's like whatever you know Right. And the same thing for like these people who put plastic bags on seal's heads and then make a video of taking it off. That doesn't seem like it's helping anything. If that's what's happening. Are you saying, are you accusing these people of doing that? I'm stopping short of that. I'm just thinking if that did happen, that wouldn't be helpful.

Of course not. And I will say that when I first saw the video, it was my initial thought and it still is, but I won't accuse them. um i think you're confusing seals and sea lions or otters i i'm not sure i can pick any of them out of a lineup i'm sure there are plenty of differences but a seal an otter an otters are very cute bring a picture of an otter please i want to see an otter i think you're mistaking the the the fun loving posture of a seal or an otter with with having fun being disabled fun loving posture what do you mean like they're like a they just have a fun way of moving in general this is what some guy says about this is what some like middle-aged divorce guy who's got

a divorce that says about like dating a something like college girl he's like she just just makes me feel young this got a fun energy anyway here's the odds these otters these are great that's nice otters are very cute these are these are these are this is like can i can i like all right i'll take this on the screen please google can i get an otter as a pet because i know i said thing i do want a cat but like we have a lot of wires in this place and the cats would eat them i found there are these things we can put these metal meshes that we could put around all the cables so that the cats can't eat them so we just be surrounded by metal meshes all day and i you know it's a compromise but what about the otters can i get an otter um not only is it is it widely

illegal um but they aren't easily house-trained and they're very active social animals keeping an otter as a solitary pet can make them very sad okay well first of all I'll get two others you know look at these things I get a bunch of them and second of all uh oh wait bring the other picture up that's really cute this one yeah oh look at that look at this make that yeah make it bigger I want to see it you can tell me I care if that's illegal I'm taking that thing that will is this wet teddy bear look at this wet teddy bear I need this uh I don't care how illegal it is I'm like I'm point look you What if you just get an old one, like a one that's kind of slowed down?

Unlike you, I don't look at the elderly as disposable or as a burden. I actually respect elderly people for what they've contributed to society. No, I'm just saying they might. The sacrifices they've made, you know, whatever. Just add respect for you. It's just a good practice. But, you know, sure, if you feel that way, then, yeah, treat, I guess you could also treat an old otter worse. No, not worse.

Just that they might be calmer household pets. Oh. Yeah, maybe. Or he's putting in a diaper. What's cute? Look, what is cuter than this in the diaper? I didn't say it's old, put it in a grinder. No, but you're basically saying, like, yeah,

but if you put a cigarette out on it by mistake, don't, don't make a, you know, let's not act like it's the end of the world here, right? That's kind of what the vibe was. Like, look, if I happen, if I happen to forget, like, it's behind me, and I, uh, and I bump into it and then falls down the stairs and breaks his hip, like, I'm just saying, like, I'm not saying don't take it to the hospital,

but should I get, like, should the detective come and question me? that's the subtle difference like I don't think anyone needs to question me it's an old person that's kind of the vibe you give it's just an otter whatever it's an old otter that's your whole gimmick look it's kind of like that thing from the shield with a guy like I only do it to the serial killer we only do the old the old women right because less selfish or whatever you only take a little bit of their life away that's how you are with daughters so congratulations um what's the overall thing we were talking we're gonna wrap this up in a second yeah but just to land this um to re to contextualize i mean this is this is the story we were coming at this from the

from the political story about the guy made the porn yeah just do me get me a little fact check on this did we already read this i can't remember did we give me a little blurb about this guy and then we'll wrap close this out i do want i don't want to i don't want to miss the opportunity to call this guy the next Jack Kennedy. I want, you know, I mean, I want to give him his roses, as they say. Manhattan is a Manhattan, Manhattan congressional candidate. Publishes a porn video. Oh, he's running against Jerry Nadler. Who is Jerry Nadler? Is that the guy who invented, uh, is you related to Jerry Sandusky? Probably not. We're usually, last, last names are usually how that works. Okay,

then my, go ahead. Anyway, so this is a frame from it. Oh, wow. She would not be. showing that it's not it had a name too it's called bucketless bonanza mm bucketless bonanza I can't think of a less sexy name so this guy this guy's whole so he he's saying that like I make porno vote for me I'll make it safe for sex workers because I'm such a porn addict and a sex addict like I couldn't even do a campaign video without having sex so like I'm not going to abuse like are you telling me I can't accuse him of anything but you're telling me that guy is less likely to be like to perve

on like a bunch of sex working lobbyists oh definitely not yeah like are there any the prostitutes like are are sex working lobbyists the people who lobby for sex work to be legal are they usually ex-prostitutes or ex-born stars um I think sometimes they are that would be very effective honestly that would probably be the best right you get some very popular pornographic person and they're and they're doling out you know bunny ears not bunny ears Don't get old dough-eyed with Mitch McConnell You know But in this case

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