Kump - 131 - The FTX Challenge

Episode Date: November 13, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss FTX, Twitter, The passing of Batman, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. How are you? I'm good. All things considered. It's a crazy week.

We have a lot of world shaking events, world shaking events, world. shattering events uh world jiggling events the world got jiggled a bit on its axis uh i guess off the top we'll just start with uh you'll notice for the first time in a while uh we used to do batman's every week when there be a batman on the desk and this is actually one of the batman's that we did but with a heavy heart he returns because this is to honor uh a legend of batman stuff uh kevin conroy dead nice that wasn't honor that's not how you honor a man such a disrespectful way

to broach the death of a person who you actually like well i was gonna here's where here's where that comes from i'll break the fourth wall for you all i was gonna say dead at 66 then two things one i couldn't remember if it was definitely 66 yeah i'll leave out and the bad last thing see i you think we're on a script or something but i'm just off to fly and i'll make these micro adjustments and a lot of times they weren't

out and something but just now you saw a micro adjustment where I left off I'll leave off the 66 yeah yeah so why age your guy yeah and then what are you gonna say dead at right so I just said dead but the star he was the voice of Batman and Batman the animated series one of the most beloved portrayals of Batman he's a great it's a great iconic voice you'll notice he's on this little stand because this figure is so goddamn top heavy he's there like Christ on the cross he's there like Christ on the cross he's He is like Christ on the cross, much like Kevin Conroy. Yeah, he also did the video games.

There's Harkham Asylums and stuff. So, you know, we're not going to spend a whole hour to vote to Batman, but dead. Sorry. It's funny because I went, you woke up this morning. I woke up like an early bird eating worms and you stumbled out of bed. And I said to you, you know, Kevin Conway is dead. Yeah. And you said, who?

And I'm like, you don't know who Kevin Conway is. Because I know you like Batman, the anime series? Yeah. And I said, you don't know Kevin, my usual, like, semi-abusive, but just like, I'm always testing you. Yeah. Always always in quiz mode. Yeah. Oh, you don't know who Kevin?

I think you do know who Kevin Conway is. And why don't you? You should really play the riddler in a Batman movie. I should play the riddler and the penguin got like fused together. But you would just be quoting, you would just be aggressively quoting movies at Batman. Do you know where that's from? Congarigan Ross, who's in it?

I'm Batman. Bring up the picture. Now, why don't you get, and then, you know, what we realize is that there was a name confusion. And instead of, we didn't even show what Kevin Conroy looks like, but this is what Kevin Conway looks like. This man here.

This is Kevin Conway. You might remember him as the awful father of the O'Reilly brothers in the prison show Oz on HBO. This is not Batman. No, it's not. Should we show Kevin Conroy at this point? Maybe we should.

Just we showed this man. Yeah. Now it feels even more dispro. First we say dead. And now just bring up a picture of Kevin Conroy so we can move on. Not everyone here cares about voice actors. I know that. I'm sorry.

Here's a picture of the man we thought he was. And that's it. That's fine. That one's good. This is Kevin. Conroy There you go Batman he's the one who's dead

Kevin Conway as far as we know it's alive RIP I meant to do something nice I brought the figure out I don't just be a nice thing to do and I feel like if his family saw this they would just vomit be disgusted with us and that would be fair

I feel like you know I don't know I'm sorry Did he play anyone else? Was it just Batman? I mean you let's look at up I guess Do you have a little eulogy prepared? No, I don't have any clips. All right. You get a pile on? You get in the head of Reddit?

Someone clipped as and posted it on our Batman. I mean, to be fair, it looks like it is mostly just Batman. He's heavily invested in the Batman character. Yeah. What do you want me to do about it? So, you know. Now I'm belittling him. Yeah.

Like, was he in anything else? No, just. Or was it just the Batman? Just 50 successful Batman. animated projects and video games the video games probably work billions of dollars I don't know they're not called duty but you know what do you want me this is how we honor people on comp we bring we bring out an action figure and we get him we just I mean should should we get his grave can we get to his grave and dig you want to rob his grave I know I'm making

a point here and so I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to get ahead of the uh criticism you know what do you want me to do what do you think i'm going to get when i die in three years what honor will i be bestowed anyway welcome to come welcome to the show so yeah can you get his face off they can't see it but he's his he's just he's just looking back at me just judging me for dishonoring him um a lot going on Saturday Night Live But is it still called that Or is it called SNL

Kind of like Duncan's Donons is just called Duncan It's famously referred to as both I mean it's S&L being the shorthand Saturday Night Live Being the actual name The full name They should call it Saturday Night Lampoons

Because they stole everything From the National Lampoon Back in the 70s I watched that movie They made about that years ago. They ripped off the National Lampoon.

Oh, they covered? Well, they just kind of took, yeah, well, they stole a lot of like the, quote, the quote, stole a lot of the cast. The early cat,

but whatever, I don't know what to tell you. I was just trying to take a shot of SNL to move off the Batman thing. Hosted by, no, this is a new comic?

This Dave, this Dave, this Dave, Comic comic. Does Dave Choppel? That one, I didn't sell that. one. It's the H. Chappelle.

Sometimes they change the way things sound. They're a little funny. Like if they said Lex Friedman. I find it funny. I don't know if everyone else does. But Dave Chappell didn't work. Put that in the L column. It just wasn't a believable mispronunciation. You were like, you were like, Choppel. Is he a new comic? I should just get a sandman over here.

He's been around for a long time. You need to get a cane, like the sandman of the Apollo. Pull me off. Pull me off. just pull my head off. Yeah, he's been under fire a lot in the past year or two for various reasons, still a funny guy. Yeah. And dare I say a living legend?

Mm-hmm. And he hosted SNL. And there was, what was the controversy? We have a controversy here? Well, somebody was saying there was some rumor, at least, that, like, writers were sitting out his episode, but I don't know. That may have not been true. Okay.

It may have just been a thing people. No, I saw a thing that some writer was protesting because he's anti-trans. Here's a tip. You don't do that on a week where the guy's funnier than everyone who writes for the show. Right. Because he's just going to go out there. I mean, we're not going to play clips of it. We watched the monologue, which was very funny.

And then one clip where he was doing a Game of Thrones thing, or I guess House to the Dragon. Yeah. And they just brought back all the Chappelle show characters. it's like you made a good point it was like the ultimate flex just like hey remember when I had this show that had like a sketch show that had like everyone likes

they literally have like was like an ashy Larry or whatever's name just iconic character after iconic character the player haters ball guys and then McJames just doing the same he's literally doing the like you know you're couch thing like

um so yeah uh uh yeah I mean you like the monologue I like the monologue Look, he tried, the only mistake he made was trying to be funny.

There's a big mistake. People are still, he basically took the Kanye situation, the Kyrie situation, and contextualized it and said, you know, he basically made a point where, like, look, there's a lot of blacks in Ferguson, Missouri. Is it Missouri? Ferguson, Missouri. It's a lot of blacks and Ferguson, Missouri. Doesn't mean they run it.

A great line, right? But they still, they're still mad. Yeah. I still am mad that people discuss. did you can't win you can't out funny controversy no maybe you can maybe maybe the time's attorney but you'll never because people operate on am i look the coney thing whatever i mean not whatever but like you know he paid a price well ire's paid a price no one's like oh they just don't care you can't apparently it can't so it's like you know let's let's calm now he's trying to make

like the situation much like I did with the death of a beloved voice actor and people still get mad in the comments how dare you disgrace Kevin Conway's family well yeah like no joke I mean his his monologue and like the reviews of the negative reviews of it and stuff like it's really evidence that it's like no joke is going to succeed of when everybody just interprets them as like serious statements right you can really make any joke deplorable. Dave Chappelle spoke to the UN last night, 11.30 p.m.

and he addressed the general assembly. No, so good for Dave Chappelle. We didn't watch the rest of the show because that's not what we do. And, uh, but yeah, I mean, you don't, don't, literally, hey, we're not going to write this episode. I'll bring back this crackhead character I do. It's fine.

You want me to do the, uh, you want me to get Christian Finnegan back and we'll do the, the real, real world again? We'll do that. We don't need writers. I'm Dave Chappelle. So, bad play, I think, on that part. Moving on.

Do a much bigger, more troubling story. No? Well, look, I have been outspoken in the past about my skepticism of cryptoccurrency. The people have come down on you for that. I have. Is there a little word change? Cripto?

Oh, God. Cryptocurre, I've been a skeptic of... What is that even mean? I think it's what I get my idea with Schappel. You know? You're not, you're not being my laugh, a good, like, sounding board you. I'm sorry.

You're letting it die in the vine. Cryptocurrency could have been a fun bit. Cryptocurrency. And, you know, I've been lamb bastards. You know, everything from, hey, you've found. fat turd you know nothing about money to hey you fat scumbag you know nothing about crypto and everything in between and you know the whole the gamut the whole gamut the whole shebang and this has not been a good year for crypto currency see and it's you know and i don't know if it's a cherry on top is the right analogy

but you know because bitcoin's already been down to like you know it was trading in the the 20 was already in the teens last time you checked it it was like 14 or something no no it was 16 change I'm saying before because well we're bearing the lead here FTX has

gone bankrupt FTX is if you're not familiar with it it's a cryptocurrency exchange so even though it's a decentralized currency it still needs a centralized exchange like a market I guess I don't

the whole, I always pictured cryptocurrency just being like a torrent site, like where you go like, you know, download MP3s like Limewire or Cazaar or what was the famous Napster. I always thought it was it was not money Napster where you would just kind of, he, I got this, you got that, give it to me, give me, give me. But apparently someone throws a good idea to just make these massive exchanges. I mean, I know, there's practical reasons. But the whole point is the only people shut, I mean, what if I come in and shut down? on FTX before they collapse me right I mean if I'm the government I don't know how that works

again this is maybe why people get mad at me because I go off the cuff and I don't know much of I don't know the details I I I smell a rat but I don't actually read do you feel vindicated by this um I feel vindicated I don't feel like anyone agrees with myself indication I don't think anyone no one's you You know, like there was guys like Peter Schiff and Michael, the guy from the Big Short, when the financial crisis happened in 08, these guys knew, and I'm already seeing it. This guy's calling, been calling out Bitcoin for years. I've been calling out Bitcoin for years. No one's using me.

Is it because I'm not famous? Perhaps. It's because no one trusts me. Maybe. Is it because you're not rich? Yeah, probably. I mean, like, I'll know less for your money. Don't do buy Batman figures.

No one wants to hear financial advice from a man with Kevin Conway's Batman on his desk. It's Kevin Conroy. Yeah. But FTX, let's go through the story. First of all, this is, what's his name, Bankman or Blankman? What is his name? Bankman fried. Okay.

I'm sure it's really freed. No, hold on a second. So I'm going to bring this up. This is the picture. This is the BBC story, the fall of the FTX King of Crypto, Sam Bankman fried. This is a bad headline.

You know what I would call the headline? Bankman gets fried. It's great. Oh, you think I'm going to meet you halfway if you let my turns of jokes collapse in front of us? I mean, honestly, again, this is not like the most astute financial. statement but doesn't his name first of all first thing it struck me just now i just realized it his name is bankman yeah and doesn't this article sounds like such a made-up name well it's not just made up it's like yeah i'm i'm i have kind of a bank right and my name's bankman but doesn't this

read as sort like sam bankman fried books conspicuously like sam bankman fraud like it was right there in front of us the whole time right bankman fraud like he's he is the riddler this man is the riddler he looks like he kind of you could see paul dano playing this guy he just got like a you know puffy hair or whatever it is yeah um so ftx founder sam bankman so this is the article from bbcc news you know i always trust the brits to get this stuff right even if uh because you know i just am loyal to britain i guess uh it took fewer than eight days for sam bankman fraud to go from being nicknamed the king of crypto to his company filing for bankruptcy and him stepping down as chief executive facing federal investigations

to how he handled the company's finances. The article starts in a very interesting way. Over the last few years, the internet has been flooded with long interviews with him speaking over video chat from his office desk in the Bahamas. Can I got a red flag here? I know the Bahamas is a lovely place. I don't know if that's where, it's the Bahamas different than the Cayman's. maybe it is, is it?

I know the Caymans are very popular for quote unquote offshore financing where companies keep, you know, businesses in the Caymans and they, and then to hide profits or, I don't know, do stuff. They do stuff, bad, you know, illegal stuff. Tax evasion. I don't know if the Bahamas is the same thing. But, I mean, again, this is my dumb way of being critical. I'm like, this is, this strikes me.

Why are you in the Bahamas? Even if it's not some kind of, you know, tax scheme or something. Right. It does seem, it just seems like a deep, it seems like an insurious place to do business from. Yeah. Like, you should be doing business from a, from a cold, dark place. Right. And then going to the Bahamas.

Detroit. On your off time. You should be in the middle of Detroit. Yeah. Revitalizing the city center, uh, financing robocops. Things like that. That's where, that's where money men should be doing. Now, that's the least of those problems, I guess, because the next sentence is,

he's referring to these video chats he's on in the Bahamas and some of them there's distracting clicking noise as his interviews and interviewees listen intently to the incredible story of how he became a multi-billionaire in five years the sound is persistent and clearly coming from the American entrepreneur's mouse click click click click it goes off in rapid

on off burst this is very visceral article I should really I should write I was a journalist who'd say like click click click click click This is the state of journalism As people trying to make the sounds I would just write And some of them

You can hear a motherfucking mouse in the background That's how I I bet this person writes screenplays Yeah Meanwhile Mr. Bankman's fries eyes dart around the screen Again My journalistic issue

Is persistent They never get to a point You know, I'm not trying to read And I've got the Christie novel I'm not trying to read pro row I want to know how my money went away You know? Right

A loose checkered scarf Dangles around his neck It's not clear from the video Is what he's doing on his computer But his tweets can give us a pretty good clue I'm infamous for playing League of Legends While on phone calls He tweeted in February 2021

Now that's not the crux of the problem here But I do think it's a good tie-in for our Twitch channel Because this guy is just playing legal legends While he's handling billions of dollars I feel like he's cutting in on our thing Because we're on Twitch, you can follow us at twitch.tv slash Ray Kump And we're Twitch streaming. Maybe we should play legal legends today

In honor of Bankman fraud. Yeah, maybe we can get him to play with us. That would be huge. Anyone out there who knows Mr. Bankman, Mr. Beckman fraud, we will call him we won't call him McMan fraud in the Twitch stream. tell him that tell him

we'll call him Kevin Conway but yeah this guy is so whatever we'll skip ahead this guy looks like Henry Winkler's

dumb son from Parks and Rec oh yeah Ben Schwartz yeah Money Daddy Money Daddy some people drink too much

some gamble I play league he said and also go to Epstein's Island I didn't say that you let that one die too since the 30 year old's cryptocurrency empire collapsed blah blah blah didn't seem to put them off at all

they invested money Sequoia capital Sequoia capital was like yeah we still invested 210 million and now they're writing it off as a law so basically what he did this guy this crypto man um what did he do you were the oracle do what do you well he well he he wanted to he had this obsession with being like a charity persona? Right, he was the White Knight of Crypto.

White Night of Crypto. I hate to agree with the Coral Concordin cells, right? Or the pickup artist of the Internet, right? That's not where I butter my bread. But their propensity for finding out white nights would have been helpful here. Yeah. You never trust a white knight.

They call this guy the White Knight of Crypto or something or Bitcoin or or Bank fraud or something. The White Knight or Bank fraud. world um and it's just you know is there ever anyone who's like does any like does anything is anyone who does anything good ever like is anyone ever do anything for anyone else when they're not trying to like sexually assault them or or case their house for a robbery or just own the world right yeah bill gates no I'm trying to cure AIDS and like you know here's microchips and yeah but he also i'd be a microchips i it also makes a little hard when he sticks the needle in the kid's arms.

Look, he's just, oh, I mean, yeah, but in a philosophical way. He just, look, he's a, look, he knows a lot about microchip. I'm not going to get into it. Could I, could I do a detour? Sure. I tell you about this. I read something kind of relevant like this. I was reading this book about trains about the New York City Subway.

Okay. And there's a guy, one of the guys who built the New York City subway system, his name is August Belmont, Jr. Of Belmont fame Of Belmont fame Belmont Park Yeah Belmont I grew up right near Belmont Park

Where I bet on a horse and won once No this is a different Belmont Park This is a park It's near it was near Babylon This is a state park The racetrack is also named after him It is but I'm okay So we got two things he did

And he also built the subway And he built the subway Less importantly I used to go to Belmont Park And take pictures of ducks With Rothschild money Me? No, no, he got

Oh He got Belmont Jr. Got the subway built With Roth trial money Interesting What are you getting that? Right. You better

Be careful with there, Kanye. I mean, look, the subway is good. No, they were real people. No, no. I'm kidding. The subway is a gift. Yeah.

But, anyway. The gift that keeps on pissing. But I read an anecdote about him where they were like one time one of his racing ponies ran over a little kid. Uh-huh. And then the little kid's father came to August Belmont Jr. And it demanded money for the kids' surgeries.

Demanded, okay. Yeah, because, like, it was his racing pony that ran over his son. With his son on the track? No, it just, like, got loose and ran over a kid. Keep your pony line. Yeah. And I guess, then, like, it got heated, and then Belmont beat the guy with his cane. Ooh, did that?

No, just beat him severely. You want to be the guy? I'll be Belmont. Yeah, sure. Hey, buddy. Excuse me, sir? Hey, you got a lot of money, don't you? Excuse me, sir.

I am, do I have a lot of money? Does any men have money? Yeah, well, you're one of your little, one of your little racing ponies. Ran over my son. Excuse me, sir, can you please begin to start the story? I have been accumulating fractions of information from your gutter mouth, but I'm not quite sure what you say. This is my son, it's my son over there, his body's broken.

He seems he's in need of medical attention, may you should not see to that. Do you or do you not remember what are your ponies escaping from your racetrack and getting loose in the city? I am a man of many ponies, sir. And if one happens to maim your child, that's just the cost of doing business for me. You got, you got, you got millions. Why don't you give me some money to pay for my kids' surgery? That's what you want, you want, you want some money. Yeah.

All right. Well, I keep my money in my cane. It's got a little compartment here. Really? Do you touch me. Oh, you smell like hot dogs. But yeah, I was just reminded of that because we were talking about rich people being bad. But, yeah.

Sure. No, that was the most rich guy anecdote I had ever heard. Sure. I mean, there was a lot, I mean, there's, has Ty Cobb beating up a handicapped man for, I mean, I don't know if Ty Cobb, I don't know if Ty Cobb, I don't know if they made enough money back in the old days that you could hold Ty Cob rich. But he's a, he's a celebrity, and he's probably pretty well off. And some guy, he started beating this heckler who was heckling him, you know, saying rotten things to him. I think he may be disparaging his mother, who knows.

And he comes into the stands, he starts beating him. And at one point someone yells out, Ty, he's got no, he's got no legs. He's like, I don't care if he has no alms. So, yeah. Those are just, you know, a rich anecdotes of the day. Very, very well done. Back to the story of FTX, I guess.

Is that what we were talking about? Yeah, FTX. Intellectually. Sam Bankman fraud. So apparently he slept on, you know, this is him sleeping on a bean bags. He likes to do this. He looks to sleep on bean bags.

But where anyone doesn't have a bag, That's another thing. Oh, why are women always talking about having a, you know, bed frame? This is why. Because you're a billionaire who's going to lose it all. In early 2020, in early 2022, FDX was valued at $32 billion and a household name with an NBA stadium named after the company and endorsements from celebrity backers such as the NFL's Tom Brady. I've heard they lost like 300 million in him and Giselle. Oh, wow.

This is, this is, uh, if you don't know, Tom Brady is the most successful football boy of all time, I think. You've got seven rings, Super Bowl rings. Giselle is a model. A model of the ages. Um, a Victoria's Secret Super Angel. I never thought. Yeah, she's a dying angel, whatever.

Battle angel. Battle angel. Uh, I never thought she was great, but whatever. She's very harsh. She seems mean. You, you've really launched an offensive. I don't know if we've talked about it in the podcast yet, but you've really launched an offensive on Giselle attacking your looks.

I get it. Basically calling her an ugly slob. She is, she looks great, a pair of panties and a bra. She's got, you know, fractional body fat percentage.

Fantastic. Do I have to want to make love to every woman who's more attractive of me in the world? Is that really? Like, I get it. I, like,

who are you to take a shot of Giselle? No, I just don't want to, you know, merrier. Why is that so wrong? Is that really the world you want? We're just fat men lining the streets going like, ah, being simps.

Oh, I just thought you're so pretty. You're so, oh, can I give you a diamond ring? Oh, is that what you want from me? I don't understand what people want from me. It's just like, you don't, you wouldn't kiss this woman. I mean, it wasn't my plan. Well, look, not wanting to be a simp for an unattainable rich woman makes sense. I don't want to retain her.

But now she's not rich anymore. Well, I think they're rich enough that this is not the end of the world. 300 million is nothing to these people. They're Super Bowl champions and battle angels. You know, so good for them. But do we have an article on them? Just skip this. We're done with this one.

Just stay on this tab. Because the FTCX guy basically, basically what happened, he's like, I don't know, I'm not even sure what he did. He had this other fund that was supported, which fit, another crypto coin that he made. And then the head of some other crypto company called it out. And then he's like, maybe he'll buy you. And then he realized how bad it was. So we didn't. So that's the end of the story.

I mean, I don't know. It's just, it's pretty predictable to me in a sense that, like, all this stuff seems sketchy. You found something with them? Do you want to watch their crypto ad? Yes, I do. I really, really do. This is Giselle and Tom Brady peddling Bitcoin exchange. Can I talk to you about something?

Big one. Can I talk to you about something? Yeah, we talked about it. I got another 10 years left. Maybe 15. Not bad. This is big. What do you think?

Jump cuts. I'm in. Wait, wait. What? Look at this man. This is the man of someone who doesn't know. Is this the man of someone who understands what a Bitcoin exchanges? What is this the man?

Hey, we'll give you. I don't know. I think they invested in it. But whatever. The point is, this is not, this is not exactly, you know, Milton Freeman looking back at me. looking back at me but we'll see you know what I'm in I thought he's supposed to be like who is that it's probably some football guy okay I'm in whatever I thought that I thought like he's for a second I thought he was supposed to be calling like a barbecue filled with firefighters

or something. Hey, roughnecks. Get over. Put all your money in crypto. Hey, hey, wipe the mud off your face

and the shit off your hands and come give some money to my crypto exchange. You want, look at my wife. You say something nice with my wife. But also, like,

wish she was your wife, don't you? I don't know, maybe. Yeah, you wish she was, She's fine, what we do? Are you offering her to me?

So far, everyone just seems to be like, yeah. Even in this art, is that the new one? My mom. Wait, was it, the new world? I don't know. Whatever. Who's that? No, my mom.

Hey, donut, don't eat that. Yo, what's up? Yeah, yeah, I'm in. Yeah, sounds good, I'm in. I'm in. They're literally calling all the working class people of America in this commercial and telling them to invest all their money in FTAX. in a doomed venture.

Hey, guy who cleans my dog's shit up. Get over here. You want a dollar you? You want a 4X your money? How about, I don't pay you this week. I put your money into FTX. Okay? Okay?

FTX. Oh, God. This is the worst case scenario. This is the worst possible thing this ad could have been. This is horrible. This guy's only scratching his ass before he cooks a cassidia. some surgeon they're moving up now

they're working rich there's plummer hey hey shit peddler hey fuck your mortgage when you finish on clogging my toilets why don't you plug your bank account my bank account with your money

dump into this fucking this Ponzi scheme downstairs toilet again hello Tom doge coin so mark oh like doge coin he's doggy coin this is really honestly this is the Tom Brady Tom Brady is an I man the people no I'm in I'm in I'm here all right he loves you Bresemmy trader first even if you wanted to come back it wouldn't take you yes you yeah we would I think that's a football thing we're providing gives 360 degree access to the crypto markets with the ability to trade everything from

alts to defy i believe i'm in but still hate you understood take you at best of the family okay so this is interesting uh so that's that's that's tom brady's story yeah what happened they lost all their money was there an article you were reading I just want to know how much they don't care about yeah this is who stands to learn more who stands to lose more Tom Brady or Giselle

that's that that's the pertinent issue um does it say a number give me a number Give me a number Damn it These articles never get to the point They never get to the point I heard 300 million

So let's go with that Cause what's the difference I mean Giselle is That article said That article said Giselle is worth 400 million Well Collectively they lost

300 million I don't know Whatever What Oh now Maybe I should marry her I mean she's word More than him

Is what I heard Oh really? That's what I've heard Yeah I mean How do you make that much money not doing, well, that was a dumb

statement. I was going to say not doing pornography, but they famously aren't billionaires, panographers. Whatever. Where does she make her money from? Like perfume ads? Yeah, I think she has a bunch of brands. Buy my, by my severe

dog collar. Anyway. Was there anything else about FTX that we didn't cover? I mean, was there anything? else is that oh yeah so yeah it's a good time to tell you uh i had our money in fdx i know so shut up um crazy days another you know another crazy business thing going on uh there's craziness

in twitter uh there's a lot of people on twitter now we covered twitter last week uh and my you know my hypothetical shadow ban which i think i think has been lifted i had nice I had a tweet that went, you know, I don't want to be called viral, but I had like 35,000 likes. You know, it's the best I've ever done. Your protests may have gotten the attention of some important people. Well, thank you, though. Thank you for the, for the, for the comp fans at Twitter. So I seem to be back in Twitter, you know, in whatever action I was in.

But there's a lot of chaos at the company. Do we have a thing here with that? Doesn't matter. The, uh, famously, um, so basically here. There's the time on it. Since last week, they've made Twitter Blue available to buy. So for eight bucks, you can, I thought it was going to be, hey, like, you know, Corey Feldman or Eddie Murphy, you know, you're verified on Twitter. Now you've got to pay us eight bucks.

And also, you know, journalists and whatnot. And people kept going, and then you wouldn't get paid to get verified. I'm like, I don't think that's what you're doing. But it is. So you can actually, you were able to buy $8 and you would get a blue check mark. Interestingly enough, if you click on the blue check mark, it will tell you. No, it doesn't even seem obvious that, just leave it up. It doesn't even seem obvious that you can click it.

But it will tell you that this person is, you know, verified because they're prominent in government or prominent in whatever. Right. Or if you pay the $8, it'll say, this person is verified because they subscribe to Twitter Blue. So it just seems like a weird cast system. developing, but people took, took, uh, never, you know, never distrust the people's ability to lose a lot of money on crypto and to make hay out of, uh, companies, you know, not to their own gain, but just to, just to cause chaos online.

Mm. Because, uh, a lot of people went online and started impersonating brands. Remember last week we were talking about how Kathy Griffin got banned from Twitter because she was impersonating a lawn. Right. Well, as soon as this became available, Everyone's impersonating, like, you know, random people are starting, and one of the most famous ones was Eli Lilly and Company.

They make insulin. I never would have known that. I just thought insulin was from the, you know, from the insulin. I thought it was just like pork bellies, you know? People just go, people have to go get their own insulin. No, well, no, pork bellies in a sense that, like, they trade on the mercantile exchange. You were trying to call me an idiot just now. You were like, you smuck his, that doesn't do it, but it was a coincidence.

You really thought you had me there. I was talking like it was a commodity, but apparently it's made by his company, Eli Lilly & Company. And some ingenious poster made their own Eli Lilly and Company handle, and they're verified. And it says, we'll just show it, I guess. We are excited to announce insulin is free now. And apparently that drove the stock price down like a ton. like a lot like a metric ton

they really shook up Eli they had to come out and be like we're actually sorry someone made a fake lily account our account's called lily pad by the way which is lily pad yeah frog stuff

I don't know whatever but they just say we're not giving away insulin and then Bernie Sanders got involved saying these schmuck some of the effective these schmucks got these rights from like insulin companies like I don't know I guess a hundred years ago

insulin companies gave away the rights so people could not have to pay for it too much and uh and a lot of musk comes out and he's like you know uh actually it's no more complicated than that you know you're trying to make you know something at the rights of insulin i lost at that point i lost interest yeah Elon Musk has a as a boner for fighting with Bernie Sanders on Twitter he doesn't like him uh there's also i think someone um made like a like a who who's Lockheed Martin is that we're not going to sell the u.S and Saudi Arabia because of war crimes. You know, and so there's no more Twitter blue for now.

They've taken it away. I was actually, I had to contemplate it because I'm not because like I don't want to be the guy paying for, you know, paying for verification kind of thing. It's not cool. But like, you know, I'm promoting a show. Like, you know, people are saying they're going to start burying posts or aren't. Like, I'm like, do I have to like, so I remember seeing the tab. I didn't do it, but it was like, do I have to fucking, whatever.

And that choice has been taken away from me. now because the tab's not there anymore apparently uh these internet i was going to call them sleuths but they're the opposite they're just they're muddlers they're muddlers of the truth in a fun way so yeah that's that's you know it's it's a crazy development of twitter um what do you what would you what would you think would be what would your first instinct to be for a failure on Twitter if you're going to impersonate a company what would you do we should have done some of this. Yeah.

It's a problem. You do this stuff and, like, there's no benefit to you. He's like, well, again, like, it's not my name anymore. I just want to do parody accounts. I don't know. I feel like he's something, sometimes it's, this is fun with anonymous, but these people who run like he's parody, hey, I'm fake Bernie Sanders. And I'm like, I'm going to say stuff or fake Trump.

Oh, it's like, all right. I can go, I can go say fake Wesley Snipes and go tweet out, I pay him off welcome taxes. Yeah, and that'd be fun. But, you know, it ain't going to get me nowhere. Yeah. It's the lowest form of tweeting. If you really want to cause chaos, you could just, like, get a bunch of it. You could collect, make a Google sheet.

Yeah. Of pretty, like, every New York Times journalist on Twitter. And then make a fake account as them and just start tweeting out like really racist things. Or just Thomas Friedman saying, like, the world is a donut. Yeah. The world's not flat anymore. The world is a cronut. Flaky on the outside and I'm, and I'm anti-Semi.

I mean, I'm actually. actually surprised that that hasn't happened yet that like that journalists from competing partisan rags haven't like started just imitating each other that's interesting so we're your idea is that we're approaching an error of proxy wars of like of just of like fake you know I'm gonna make a fake you know like Paul Krugman account you're gonna make a fake uh who is anyone famous at the New York Post probably fake Perez Hilton is he still the post who knows I don't know who Jones Hilton it's still kind of famous I think.

Is he at the post, though? Not sure. Who knows? I don't know who you people are journalists. There's a couple people who follow me. But I don't know. I'm not invested enough with journalism anymore. The guy I always bring up is Dexter Filkins.

Look up Dexter Filkins again. We talk about him on the show a lot. That's from 20 years ago. The last time I cared about journalists around the Iraq War. Is Dexter Filkins still a journalist? What's he do? Dexter Filkins. Oh, he looks like a journalist.

Yeah, look, we've covered him. before. This is Dexter Filkins. Oh, the Forever War. Yeah. Oh, you know this guy. What, what is he doing on Twitter? Does he have a Twitter? Let's see. Type in Dexter Filkins' Twitter. The last real journalist.

This guy's probably on Epstein flights for all I know. He's on the fight logs. Well, this doesn't look like there's tweets about him reporting. He's not on Twitter. But he doesn't seem to be on Twitter. Wow. So that, that tells you. The one journalist that I kind of respected is not on Twitter. But I thought it was this bastard of journalism.

Where is Dexter Filkins? Can we have him on the show? It seems like we're big enough to get Dexter Filkins. We should be able to get Dexter Filkins. We're going to get Dexter Filkins. I'm going to play him some of the audio of us talking about it. Maybe leave off the obscene. Some of the jokes, sir.

But, yeah, people are saying that Twitter's going to collapse. because all these brands now are going to leave because they don't want to be, you know, slandered by random tweeters to get verified, which seems reasonable. What do you see is the future of Twitter? Oh, Jesus. I mean, I think that it's just going to be,

I think that this whole, I think in a weird way, maybe the Twitter blue thing is the right direction if you're just looking at it amorally. Sure. Like anything that'll just let people, if it just kind of caved in on itself and became like an endless, like,

you know just meta trolling site right you know it is it might actually kind of gain a new a new like a bump and popularity for a while and then it'll just and then it'll just end I do think it's kind of fun now because I've always just yeah what did I tweet last week that tweet didn't do well by the way the one from last week about my foot having a wound but that's the caliber of tweet I do you know so I'm not really worried about like oh like you can't I'm not getting reliable information of Twitter I'm tweeting about fake wounds on my foot Um, but yeah, that's interesting that, you know, like, it's just chaos and, uh, what we need is another ice bucket challenge kind of thing. Like something where it's kind of dangerous, um, maybe like a landmine challenge.

Landmine? Like, oh, oh, the step on a landmine? Well, no. Well, like, yeah, I mean, I think there's, like, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a problem of landmines in the world. Mm. Uh, where we, we, we mine, not just us, but other people, too. where we put a lot of landmines all over the place and then we forget about them, I guess, and then kids step on them or adults, and they blow up.

But I think some of them are deactivated. And that's where the fun could come in. Is that too harsh? I mean, look, it would definitely make a statement. Hey, I'm Rick Moranis, and this is the Landmine Challenge. And he's, and the star of little giants, either lives or dies.

Yeah, the thing is, like, the celebrities would probably end up doing kind of, like, fake landmine challenges. Right. Like ones that they kind of do. Yeah, they can afford to. Yeah, they can afford to have someone dig up the landmines that are kind of like, you know, this one's definitely the... They have some advisor, they have some guy. They basically have, they pay people to step on them first. But then the real fun would start when regular people caught on to the trend and started doing it, but they don't have that kind of...

So you think the real fun. They don't have that kind of support. so they're just going to end up stepping on random landmine. So you think the real fun is when the poor people start dying. Lucy thinks that the real fun is when the working poor start to die. Is that your head? You want to stick with that one? I'm going to say any of these challenges that are in any way,

in any way dangerous or like debasing. Like only like regular people do them for real. Like maybe we should moderate this. Modulate it. Yeah. Some kind of like an ice cream Sunday challenge. That is a huge step in another direction. And it's like, but you have to, so I was thinking suddenly effect of like you have a gun,

you have a revolver, you put a bullet, like I don't know a restaurant roulette, but you put a bullet in one and some ice cream in the other, and maybe you get some ice cream. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. So the ice cream would be in the gun? It's not good for your gun. It's over top of my head. I'm just, you're not coming up with any ideas.

Can a gun, is a gun even? set up in a way where it can dispense ice cream like that? Not efficiently. Through its chambers. Not well. I mean, it might leak out. I don't know. So what's your better idea?

We're trying to help. Look, we said last week we're done taking shots of the long must because it's just boring. Because, you know, we look, like, we're like, we're like Prince. You know, by the time you're copying him, he's done with it already. And that's just we. We already did the must stuff. So now we're trying to help him. Look, I think you're close with the ice cream.

challenge but I think maybe maybe they should be like those uh the the astronaut ice cream okay in the gum the dip and dots that's not astronaut ice cream it should be wait look it should be different got get me a picture of dipping dots you are just about now gonna have to hang in your face because you confuse two different things this get a picture give me an image I want to see this get that one there there that is astronaut is dipping dots These dots of chalky whatever Now

Show me astronaut ice cream This is a family feud Show me wound on foot That is astronaut Yeah that picture right there Bring that up I think they make different dots out of that That substance though

That is the chalky mess I used to get at the observatory Or the planetarium It hurts your teeth I even just thinking about now, like, T-Turt. Dippin-Dots are torture team. Really? Yeah.

I mean, doesn't it just come out of a machine? Doesn't it doesn't Dippin-Dots just come out of, like, you know, repurposed the pay phones? Look, I'm sure that, I'm sure that an astronaut could eat Dippin-Dots in space. An Astro can eat my ass in space. Doesn't mean it's ice cream. I mean, you know, they train for years. I'm sure they could do all sorts of things. Um, well, so your, so your, so your idea, let me clear, because you, you're taking these shots

of me. Your idea when, is to, is they take craps all over my, my ice cream gun roulette thing, but you're just, oh, we'll just do chalky ice cream instead. What's your actual idea to save Twitter? Well, Dippendots, Dippendots could actually dispense out of a gun and maybe a, maybe a clean way. It's obviously not a great idea regardless. Come up with your own one. the fly. I want people, I want, I want you, I need, this is how innovation is made. Give me one idea

that can save Twitter. One, one, one challenge. Okay, well, people seem to like, uh, watching scary things. Sure, like murders. Like videos, like videos where, like prison riots, where a little ghost girl comes out at the end. But, but, or, or just, yeah, yeah, I guess prison riots, too. So you're right, no, your idea is that, is to have people, famous people, I guess watch little ghost girls. This is, you should not rerunning Twitter. People take shots at a lot of Musk. It's harder than it looks, isn't it?

Look, I'm just saying Twitter could benefit from having its, from revitalizing like the kind of chain email urban legend. What about the post your parents' autopsy photo challenge? This is, my dad, my dad jumped in front of a train, and here's where he is. Retweet, please, for charity. that's that's innovation I'm just saying

or like or like you know accuse your parents of philandering challenge not everything that's gonna be parents maybe accuse your children

of philandum it seems like with you everything does have to be fair look it's pathos what you want me to do uh maybe maybe accuse accuse someone of murder challenge

hmm because like we we don't approve of swathing right that's not like cool some streamer was online was you know had some Twitch stream where he uh I think he pretended to get swatted and that's not great but what if you just accused people of murder see it's like using the legal system but not in the way to get anyone killed at least on the short term I mean like maybe you're really good at it and your uncle goes to jail for a murder that like you're like oh look look in his basement and he actually is a killer

he's got like dead prostitutes in his basement that's a good thing what are we talking I know anyway um we'll move on can we get that ice cream over the screen I can't look at it makes me warm and vomit was astronaut ice cream I'd rather eat astronaut asser than this um what else is going on this is the the midterm elections have happened um they're not over They're still counting, right? Lauren Bobert is still in a dead heat with someone. Oh, I thought she lost, but she's still going. I think she's ahead right now.

Oh, really? Who knows? But the Democrats have won the Senate, it looks like, and they're blaming Trump. They're blaming Trump for all of this. Some people are blaming Trump. A lot of people are blaming Trump. Candace Owens went after Trump this week. She was saying how he was mean to her once because, like,

he thought you know she was telling some story about being he was on the golf course and someone someone kept shoving what do you think of canis calling you out wow wow wow she said you too old and he's like i hate canis though this whole this is all this is her whole story uh you know people are out you know other other conservative pundits are saying like you know telling stories about trump and look i'm not going to sit here and go he's a good endorser but that's not why you got the guy you didn't get trump i'm not like a trump support but you These people, oh, Trump is over. Trump's value, was it ever in, like,

I know he got a few Yahoo's done, like, last time. But his whole gimmick wasn't like, hey, yeah, we'll make a big tent. Yeah, like he was supposed to be, and people were calling him a kingmaker and stuff for a second. It's like, yeah, that's never been his thing. He's the guy who robs the king. He just attacks and attacks and attacks.

Yeah, you're going to jail. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, like, look. He was taking shots at DeSantis at one point. Oh, no, he's still taking shots at DeSantis. People go off DeSantis' party now. Yeah, let's watch them both on the debate stage and see what happens. All he can do is attack.

I can't wait. I mean, the thing with him in, what was his name, Bloomberg? Someone get me out of here. Oh, man, that was amazing. I mean, I, who are the best moments in American comedy. I, yes, it's a great point. Not American politics. American comedy.

I mean, people are in for a whiplash, I think. A real Damien Chazette. Oh, get it, get it, the movie. If they think that Trump's not going to go without fighting. Yeah. I mean, he's going to bring FTX. He's going to sit there with Bankman fraud and, and Giselle. And he's going to be accusing everyone.

He's going to be like, he's going to bring so many rape victims to the first debate. Between him and this answer. It's just going to be an audience full of rape. These are all women who are like, or he'll just say something about, like, he'll just flip on abortion. These are all women. who can't get abortion in Florida, and I gave him abortions myself. Whatever.

He's gonna, he's gonna, he's, he's a dynamic character. Yeah. So I don't know, people seem to be counting him out. I just wouldn't count the guy out. I'm not happy about it, not sad about it. It's just what it is. What you, you disagree? No, I mean, look, I think he could definitely spend,

if he decided to run in 2024, he could spend the whole time shooting on the Republican Party and still win. Yeah. the nomination i mean that's basically what he did the first time didn't he like hold the west wing i can go in the middle of tom squir and blow some guys brains out need a hot dog and still win the election he just i mean he should he should he should he should run with conier oh yeah these guys he just bring back easies i don't know i wonder if they still talk oh i forgot they were friends yeah like he like visited him in the oval office that's when people say that was the first you know

whatever cracking the armor or whatever because uh yeah he went and wore maga hat and was just like you know hanging out with tiffany trump tiffany trump by the way got married she did yeah it's very nice it is funny to watch like the to see like the new york times cover her wedding in like in this like very gushy like yeah bring up do we have this here just the night to remember oh it's like they just can't help it they just can't help it they they they can't help. Tiffany, wait,

but really, just getting wetter. They do everything at Moralago, huh? If I didn't say anything to Trump, like maybe,

I know Marlauga's a nice place, supposedly. I'd never been. But maybe branch out. I know you're saving money there, but he looks nice

to the tucks. Right? I think he looks nice. Wait, is this the same guy from FTX? Is that, is she marrying Bankman fraud?

He looks like the guy from FTAX if he cleaned up a little bit. That's, that's suspicious. Who is this woman? That's Marla, Right, Maples.

Oh, Marley, oh, right. Yeah. She looks good. So the arrival of Hurricane Nicole, that's not, that's too soon. Right. What? Oh, wait, oh. Mentioning Hurricane Nicole?

No, I'm sorry. Okay, so he's where, he's what just happened. I didn't remember the girl's name. It's Tiffany Trump. I forgot. I thought they were saying, I thought it was like they were saying Hurricane Tiffany. Oh. And I was like, what?

They have a lot of hurricanes in Florida. It's not fun of joke, but they weren't joking. All right. So the arrival. I didn't only have a hurricane this week. It's dangerous in Florida. The arrival of Hurricane Nicole at Mara Lager on Palm Beach on Thursday

may have paused preparations for the wedding of Tiffany Trump and Michael Bullios, aka Bankman Fraud. But the ceremony, which took place at 4.30 p.m. on Saturday at the... Whatever, despite the severe weather. Where's the gushing? Look at this picture.

It's a nice picture. Yeah, it's just like... Tony Bryce, the Lebanese wedding. Should we get her? An event plan? Yeah, maybe we should. Does she work with doves?

Can she work with like a $3,000 budget? She could probably do something nice. Just for the doves, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, $3,000 dove budget. I'm digging deep for the doves. Wait, wait. Okay.

Yeah, so this is like what I interpret it as kind of gushy. Like Tony Bray's a Lebanese wedding and event planner known for his over-the-top productions was brought on to realize the couple's dream wedding. Oh, Tony's a man. Sorry, and there's a gender him like that. You know, it's like there's just all these glowing photos. It's just like, I don't know, just the amount of indignation that they showed towards this guy. It seems like a matter of fact.

And calling him a Russian plant. Like, and then like, and now it's just like. Well, look, this is not, they're not like saying like, oh, the, the. They're just gawkers. They're gawkers. But, I mean, usually I think these things are full of like, you know, the esteemed Mr. Warcrime and is marrying the daughter of some, some bank for all. guy in a fabulous villa atop the

I'm just saying this seems very matter of factly I don't know it doesn't seem Ellie Shob helped create the magic This doesn't even seem like it's just It's just written by the people who work for like It's just about the wedding planners Mr. Boulos whom Vanity Faye described as her billionaire heir boyfriend

What is he What is he the era of Mr. Boulios Was born in Lebanon as a 25-year-old heir to Bullio's Enterprises, a Nigerian distribution and assembly company for vehicles, including more people get rich in such interesting ways. I don't even know what that means. So how do you make your billions of dollars?

I run a Nigerian distribution and assembly company for vehicles including motorcycles and power bikes. Whatever. This is why we're not rich. The couple start a date in 2018. Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? This is a little nonsense. I don't care.

Should I care? This is important. All right. Mrs. Trump wore a white lace dress with cutouts of the waist and her ass. And shit is she walked down the aisle screaming. Kanye was right. Puff sleeve shoulders designed by Oscar Lopez. Whatever.

This is a lot of nonsense. Are we going to be covered in New York Times? for our wedding? I mean, we better be. Well, I think we will, but it'll be because there'll be been a fire there. I don't know if I mentioned our names.

A fire broke out of a tragedy wedding. They'll call it a gender reveal party. Right. We're assuming it was a gender reveal party because the fire was huge. Everyone asking, the doves are still in play. People have been on the Twitch stream

interacting with us, you know, saying, oh, where are these doves at? They're coming, all right? People, people, people say, Lucy shouldn't, you shouldn't let Lucy, like, you know, rob you of the doves. And it's like, I don't know what you heard, but I got you to agree with the doves. People out there. I was an anti-dub. You were.

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