Kump - 134 - The Twitter Fiiles

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss the Twitter Files, Trump's plans for the constitution, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. How are you? I'm good. It's a crazy week. Big week.

We're setting out, you send out, save the dates today. today for our wedding and don't tell people what the date is that's they could use that against us you know Matt Taibi might you know might uh docks us with that information you might do an expose I don't I mean I don't want this to be the cum files but uh I mean I guess this is tradition to you know you just have invitations you send save the dates because you want to intimidate people yes yeah are these save the dates menacing yeah at all well i am i'm actually only sending save the dates to people who i want to not have come not right saying stay away from our wedding yeah basically save the date and go watch uh

guardians of the galaxy three or whatever's going to be out save the date and we don't care what you do we should buy coming over here we should buy for people we don't like we should buy tickets movie tickets it's not that expensive and and and just send like we just said a save a date and then movie tickets to Guardians of the Galaxies five whatever whatever film is that was around you go hey watch this don't don't come to our wedding you beth you betrayer you betray you're your salt to the earth I'm gonna put you on my eggs is that does everyone put salt on eggs is that a good expression I think it would be silly not to salt an egg but I don't know if it's like who doesn't salt eggs that I would be

and it would be insane on salt to make. Mr. Fitness Lou Farigno, the mediocre Hulk. I remember how mad you got once when one of our old roommates tried to lecture you about salt. Oh, the beat boy? Yeah, the boy he made beats. The beat boy. What do you say about salt?

Spelled B-E-E-T. He didn't make beats. I know how beats are spelled. Oh, right. I'm the beat boy. Yeah. What did the beat boy tell? I don't remember this.

I didn't register what he said to me. I just kind of constantly was fuming when he was talking and just was wanting to do violence upon myself just to stop the pain. Well, I think you were talking about doing keto or something. You were talking about your respective diets? Well, he had a disgusting diet where he just ate salmon and beets. Yeah.

And he was a fat guy eating salmon and beats trying to lecture me about not doing keto. And I wasn't going to him going, hey, I'm a keto boy. He's like, why are you waiting? I'm like, I'm just doing this. His dumb copper walk always smelled of salmon, rotting salmon. I hated him. Yeah, I know.

I hated him more than almost anybody. If I could docks him, I would. But I don't know anything about him. I don't know where he is. I don't know what he does. Anyway. But yeah, you were talking about doing keto or something, and he was like, do you regulate salt at all?

And you were like, no, not really. And he's like, you got to regulate salt. Maybe he's right. But look, that's the reason. they haven't regulated salt because he said it yeah i mean uh he's not coming to the wedding is he i don't think so if he's at the wedding i will set a fire i will start a fire uh on the on the where the flowers go the the archway or whatever the the what they called the arbor what they call that thing you know what i'm yeah the arch it's not it's not called march though it's arbor or

awning or the canopy something i'll i'll i'll i'll set or we can have a sign-in book where people will sign and write letters to us? Yeah, I actually had a, yeah, we will. I want calligraphy tools. I want to put people on the spot. I want a papyrus book, blank pages, and we pass it around with a feather pen

and say, scribe to us why we're beloved. I will put in big, bold letters. Do not write in the book if you don't know calligraphy. Yeah, we'll also passive-aggressively include. You got taint our book with your chicken scratch. We'll pass-aggressively include, it'll also get passed around.

Like a child, you know, when you go to the bookstores and they have those, it's like, if you don't know how to do this, improve yourself immediately with these tools. I will be disgusted if I, if I, I better, I better be moved by your family's scribbles. If one person says something trite in my book, I'll set it on fire. Yeah, we'll humiliate them for it. I will have a grievance section of their wedding where I have this book. And I'm just, and I'm beating my chest screaming. I'm going to have a heart attack.

And they'll believe me for many reasons. And I'll beat red. I'm going to call 911. I'm going to end my life. where's my wife where is she i'm here babe you've done this to me your family's done it to me again they've they've scribbled nonsense in my book much love what is that how could you do this to him how could you all do this to him oh you're writing some cute thing about how i should always do what she says i'm a pearson boy all right you know what that means i follow the 12 rules the 12 commandments

for life if one person says make sure you do what she says I will cut my hand off and hand it to them oh yeah she's in charge now do something with this chief welcome to my wedding

yeah are we going to have any kind of armed people at the wedding any kind of people armed people oh armed people guards or you know just thugs you know are gun thugs can we get some like dixie mafia gun thugs i mean i'm not sure what the local ordinances are but i'm sure they're friendly to a few to at least i mean i want the kind of men who are used to intimidating coal miners

so like and and guys who try to like you know who try like you know rabble rouse and start a union with the coal mines and they send the gun thugs i want the i want that i want to i want to i want them to be our guards or honor guard and say and you know it's like if someone when they come and out can we do the thing like in good fellows where everyone brings the envelope oh oh well like yeah the in the bag yeah you're sitting and they hand you the envelope but like rip it out every time i rip it out of your hand they open it up and see what's inside yeah you count the money in front of them i have like i have a graph paper or like ledger paper you know old school accounting paper or if a laptop with like Microsoft Excel.

I'm just punching the numbers in. What's your name? People like who I clearly know who have stayed at their homes at this point. And I'm like, what's your name again? Look, it's a big day for me. I'm sorry. All right.

This is what they gave. You're just going up to people going to. Am I going to have to pay taxes on this? Have me first? Have you filed this? is a tax-free gift with the IRS. I think there's something you can do that make me not pay taxes.

And people, look, I don't know how it works. When you get wedding gifts, you have to pay taxes on them? I don't know. Sound off in the comments. If we have to pay taxes on our wedding gifts. Anyway, what else can I do to alienate your family?

Um, well, uh, swords. So sure Me, cleavers Every idea you've had so far is alienating Yeah, well, you know You're, I'd be more surprised

If you came up with an idea to To make people not Dubs are nice Doves, which I've implored you to let me have Are a symbol of peace And love and hope Okay

Do you accept that? I do accept that? So why do you undermine it? I don't know. Why do you constantly say Once the cameras go off if you bring a dove this wedding I'll suffocate it

I say you can't suffocate a dove it's an endangered species and you go I don't care I'm I'm the William Frick of killing doves he was a guy who worked for Andrew Carnegie who used to brutalize the workers and people who don't know

and you said I'm the William Frick is it William Frick maybe Andrew Frick I don't remember Oh, I was reading about William Frick recently. Yeah? Yeah. Of the Frick Museum? Yeah.

And the Frick massacre? Yeah. What did you read about William Frick? About like a plot to assassinate him. Oh, yeah. And they tried to kill him and they stabbed him and he killed the guy. Oh, he did? Yeah.

He killed the guy who tried to kill him. I believe, or at least shot him. I don't know if he killed him. Okay. I mean, having that much hate in your heart for your fellow man can come in handy sometimes. Well, yeah, I mean, the guy was trying to kill him. To be fair, I mean, he might have been a capitalist. I know, I'm just saying a more peaceful type might get killed in that situation. I know how you hate capitalism. But, you know, the guy was, the guy was trying to

murder him. Can we, can we honor him in our wedding, this guy? William Frick. Yeah. Was it, is it William Frick? We'll include him. You know how a lot of weddings have, you know, we know you'd be here today if you could. What? Pictures of, uh, deceased family members. Yeah.

We can throw a picture of William Frick on there. Why doesn't Kanye instead of like, you know, promoting guys like Hitler and, uh, and, and, and he, they say like Stalin and Rosalini.

I don't remember. Why doesn't he get like William Frick? Someone a little more, someone who's divisive, but not, uh, but not, you know,

not so clearly known. Yeah. You know, you can find the radar. You know, I guess he wants to be in these. Semelic. That's more Hitler, you know, that's what you go to. That's your go-to guy to promote if you're one of them. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't want to get into it. I don't get into it

again. Uh, he's not the story. Kanye, were the yee? Yay. Yay. I thought it was yay. I thought it was Yeezes. It was, wasn't he Yeez-this at one point? I think so, yeah. With Jesus, what would Jesus do? Well, we all know now. Uh, but on Friday, a series of events have happened we're moving past the wedding this is not how this has very little to do with the wedding now but uh i think it's related matt tabby that's his name uh i think it's taibi i thought it was tabby tybee you might be right you might tieby i'm not great with i'm not great with i've always heard taibi but i'm reading tybee i don't know how it was whatever matt taibi fine of the rolling stones

still with them no he's of substack now oh he just we should we be on substack can we just write columns for substack and like get people like I mean what what is the difference yeah we could write the news why don't we just write news yeah look at this point wouldn't it be better if we just if we just made up the news what like because people go oh it's fake news but it's never that fake what if we just made up news like China created a time machine today. Details forthcoming. Yeah.

And whatever. It's like the onion, but not ironic. Right. Just actually trying to convince people that things happened. A horse impregnated a sheep today. We probably could get pretty close. If we did zero research, interviewed zero people.

Sure. But just tried to like... Except Nome Chomsky. Except Nome Chomsky. But tried to guess. at what the gist of the week's news was we'd probably get pretty close yeah but i want to go i want we'd probably be respected journalist by the end of the year a man and a whole the supreme court said that the man can marry a car right yeah that's close enough very liberal of them

surprisingly there's a priding liberally turn liberally turn of events um a man's marrying a car and supreme court said that's fine what would happen um a man married the car he's just nothing having sex with the gas tank the man might die the sex or gas tank the car falls on them during sex yeah ultimately if anybody decided to make an issue out of it I would say you should be able to legally marry a car because it couldn't possibly affect anyone but the person who marries the car what about the family what about the you the notion of family in America the second of marriage means nothing to you we're about to get wed we're about to be wed under a skit you know

when the like the grim reaper has whoever's doing the ceremony can they carry a skit um or skeet sure all right we could have that could be the arch two skites crossed well but under those skites that swing if we don't get out of the way fast enough wow you're neand jones in the last crusades yeah we have to like duck and roll out of the ceremony. In Latin, Jehovah begins of an eye. Can you imagine the round of applause we'd get? If we did that? Imagine we didn't.

Perfect timing. Imagine we mess them up. Then it's a tragedy, but if no risk, no reward. That's true. What I'm saying is, like, I'm the one who lives. Like, no risk, no reward. I mean, it's going to be very little of my family is going to be there. It's all going to be your family.

And I'm going to be sitting there. I mean, I'm, look, I will be beside myself. I hope you would be. if the rolls were reversed. Wait, you're saying I'm the one who's going to get hit by the Skype? Well, I'm just, look, I'm in that scenario, that would be, that would be the more awkward of the two scenarios. And probably, yeah.

Just because, like, if that happened to me, your family wouldn't be as upset as like they would if you die. I think, I think seeing any man, much less a man you've come to enjoy the company of, get sliced in nights by a Skype at his wedding. I'm not saying. I think it would be very upsetting to my family. I'm not saying they would choose it. I'm not saying they would.

put it in their highlight wheel all right i'm just saying it would be worse if it was you right don't don't know but they like me yes yeah they like me but like me but like you know they've known you longer sure they might like me better but they've known you longer uh true all that being said you don't care you just think what we're doing is the same as a man putting his things putting his stuff in a gas tank of a car the same yours is my marriage this is the same as what they're doing

I would still argue that it would be more awkward if you got hit by the sky because because your family will be like the minority of guests right well they will have to keep their mouth show a little bit and then in addition they see their son

get killed in the dumbest wedding accident ever sure that's going to make them not only will they be incredibly sad they'll be very outnumbered but they'll be they'll be feel even that'll make them feel very alienated i would think although it'll be all but there's but but the mob will be your family right so what are they going to do what they're going to do you better keep quiet about yeah i mean look i imagine it's going to be some money exchanged right a little bit of money i mean not much a couple grand he's a couple

grand shut your mouth he was going to die soon anyway probably and don't want to say it's true but you know they'll say that we know who's going to we know who it is who's going to say that i'm not going to name names but uh lawyers might show up and powerful lawyers and uh my family would be you know will be they'll put some money in their mouths put some silver coins of silver 30 pieces of silver in there and they're on their eyes and then uh you know whatever and someone clean this up someone one clean this up anyway um moving on Matt Tybee has unearthed something devastating piece of news which Alon must told him I guess right that has works so Alon Musk says that type Taibi Alon Musk agreed to release this is not it's not the wedding

this is now we're talking about the Twitter files um basically all these internal exchanges between Twitter higher-ups during the whole Hunter Biden laptop article debacle we have to set the stage there's a man named Hunter Biden son of the president right son of the president not the one who died in Iraq wait the other one didn't know a worse one you know he didn't die in Iraq he just died he went to Iraq and died later yeah he died of he died of Iraq right are you of burn pits apparently Biden loves to talk about burn pits in Iraq and his dead son. Yeah.

I mean, this guy, we, we've talked about how many people have died under his care. His wife, his first wife and kid, right? Yeah. And then his son. And then didn't the son date, didn't Hunter date Bo's wife for a while? Wasn't that a good story? I think that may have been a bit of ours, actually. No, I think he did.

I don't know. I think they found comforting each other. laps or arms anyway pretty sure we made that up i'm pretty sure it's real i don't think i made that welcome to the post-truth america we don't even know what's going on so whatever uh this hunter ended up to like and do enjoy crack is that is that poetic enough he enjoyed a bit of crack he developed what i am i out of line here he developed the acquired taste for crack. But if you gave me some crack,

I think I'd be a little intimidated, a little bit like, I don't know, should I do this? Should a man of my, of my, of my, who I am? Smoke crack. I'd say no, the Hunter Biden's a little more, you know, he's a little more of a Ken Dald than I am. A little flashier. He seems like a young John McCaffery.

I don't know if doing crack is a flashy thing to do. I think it's very flashed. I think smoking. Crack is one of the flatchiest things you could do. That is just pure glitzing, and it's glamour. I mean, I imagine Marilyn Monroe, Sophia Lorenz,

Buster Poindexter, all smoke crack probably. I'm not trying to slander anyone here, but I like to envision it because it's just, there's nothing more glamorous. You like to envision a kind of like a parlor scene of the Crem de la Crem. No, a Hollywood opium den full of crack.

Yes. Yeah. And it's just, yeah, the crem to the cram, well put. Yeah. And, uh, you know, it's just Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, uh, Tom Wilkinson, all the Tom's. Tom's. Tom Selick. Any of the Tom's?

Tom Green. Tom Petty. All these Tom's. Yeah. Tom. Tom. Tom. Tom.

Um, the, who's the guy from the one they two? Uh, I don't know, but Tom Hardy. Tom Hart is his name Tom Hardy I think so All right well he's in All Smoking Crack After Will Smith They're watching the Will Smith

Slap high on crack That's my fantasy Anyway The hell are we talking about Oh Hunter Biden Hunter Biden loved crack And he was also wrapped up In this Burisma

In the Ukraine He was on the board Someone put this guy Who smokes crack I don't know if he's a crack head that might be impolite to say but this guy who smokes crack on the board of an energy company

in Ukraine or just Ukraine and then this was the whole thing that Trump sent a letter an angry letter to Zelensky or a phone call they impeached him over this right yes this was actually an impeached thing and uh

and uh what happened Zelensky said no dice uh we're not going to give you Hunter Biden's crack pipe and the impeachment happened and put flesh back the news is harder than it seems this is what they like I mean we're going to have to learn to do what I just spend 10 minutes doing yeah in a sentence or two if we're going to start a substack because cut back to cut back to the election remember there was a story about a laptop that I guess some guy from the geek squad, maybe,

at Best Buy or some other or some private geek squad. This is why you don't trust local laptop repair shops. This is why you don't smoke crack. Yeah. And then have a laptop. Right. Most people who smoke crack probably don't have a laptop. Well, that's, that's wrong.

That's, I mean. Well, they probably have some kind of laptop. It's probably a PC. Well, look, I don't think, look, I don't think I'm totally out of wrong here. I think it's a wide. It's a wide brush to paint with. But I think the majority of crack addicted people have sold their laptop. I think that's a stereotype.

White privileged Hunter Biden, though. I think they need the laptop to get crack a lot of the time. What are you talking about? What? How many scenes in the wire about people like on, you know, A&L and some messenger asking for crack? What do you think this is? No.

You don't think. Was Omar? a hacker? You don't think anyone has ever bought crack over Facebook Messenger. I'm sure they do. Hunter Biden probably has, but I look, there's a lot of different types of crack fans. Fans of crack. And Hunter Biden was one of them, apparently. I think he admits it. I had some interview where he was like, I went, I tried to find crack in my rug. I'd crawl around the rug and find crack. Like a little crack rat. Yeah, it was crack rat. Very well, very good.

So it's crack, so I remember, there's only a couple years ago, the New York Post had a story about the laptop and Twitter pulled it, which I think is odd. New York Post might be. Really weird. The New York Post might be a little crass. Yeah. A tabloid paper, if you will.

Sure. But there are newspaper. Yeah. There are, you know, it may not be a paper of record technically, but they're a newspaper. Right. You can't just, I don't know what kind of censorship standard. The New York Post is going to put it on their thing. I mean, I don't think they're just liars.

Yeah, and also, like, if anything, the degree of slop that's on the post any given day, and Twitter allows it to get circulated. It almost makes the point stronger that this was like a political bias censoring an article. Well, that's, I think we've come full circle or is this a circle or just straight to the point. Yeah, this is the point now. This is the point that Matt Tybee has gotten the access from Alon Musk, the owner of Twitter, the Twitter CEO, to these communications. And apparently this stuff came from the Biden campaign. Is that, I'm hearing this right?

No, this stuff came from, this is like internal emails between like Twitter employees. But the behest of Biden, right, or his people. well not not directly right i think he's didn't he there wasn't there wasn't there a piece we got we got another we got another you know request from the biden team here's some you know tweets to look at so if i understand the article right right they'll get requests regularly from like during an election season that's say okay from like the biden team and the trump team sure but the issue is that they were definitely responding more in this case more heavily to the biden team yeah right like they're like they're definitely giving this concern a weight that it probably doesn't deserve sure and honestly it's like look if that's the new reality and people are you know both sides are lobbying Twitter for like news or maybe I don't know I mean but but it does seem odd it's the New York post again you might not like them but they're of newspapers it's not like you know some Nazi website or you know some weird even it's not even the substack that has you know you might not see your sense of those but I'm like this is a newspaper

Anyway, so what's going on? So is there more, should we look at this article? Yeah, sure. So I have like, I have Matt Taibi's Twitter thread on it, and I have a New York Times article on it. What do you want to start with? I guess the article? Okay.

Should we just read it instead of me? I gave my, that was my audition for the news. It was on the surface, a typical example of reporting the news. God, they, at least, I mean, they never get to the point i know i spent 10 minutes but i mean at least i was trying to get to the point i was no i'm not i'm not sitting going like waldon pond all articles a seagull i mean not to give twitter even more power but like they should maybe start formatting all articles as twitter threads what is the i just going to you know take an article and just digest it into a motorcon for me

yeah i mean but what is watson doing i vm watson's just stop playing Jeopardy against Ken Jennings and start doing that. Give me a poop emoji or a, I don't know, it's a firecracker. But when it comes to Alam Musk and Twitter, nothing is typical. The so-called Twitter files released Friday evening by the independent journalist Matt Taibi. I guess he's independent. He said over a firestorm among pundits, media, ethicists, and lawmakers in both parties. is also over the window into the fractured modern landscape of news

where a story's reception is often shaped by readers' assumptions about the motivation of both reporters and subjects. What is this? What is my reading? I'm going to call it now. I don't want to judge it this early, but this take is bullshit. I already know this take is bull or because it's like he's trying to make it like, he's already trying to kind of paint it as if it's potentially problematic

that these like internal documents were released. like you look you could say that like people are blowing them out of proportion or whatever sure but I don't really see how it could like hurt the discourse to see how Twitter makes decisions about these things right I mean the doxing element of it I don't know apparently they docks a few people but the emails they get the email addresses right I don't know giving someone's email addresses doc yeah I don't know especially when it's like are the people aren't they like Twitter email addresses do those people even work for Twitter anymore no I think it was like I think Jack Dorsey's was some kind of pizza related thing

and people who haven't hate about that. Here's a picture. Like they were trying to connect to pizza, pizza war gate, whatever it was called? And so the Trump, Mr. Musk, who was accused tech companies of censorship,

then painted, I'm sorry, pointed, can you just? Mr. Musk who has accused tech companies of censorship, then pointed readers to the account of Mr. Taibi, an iconoclass journalist who shares some of Mr. Musk's disdain for the mainstream news media.

You. You know what he's talking about. He hates you. He should just say, disdain for me. Yeah. A New York Times slub. Published in the form of a lengthy Twitter thread, Mr. Taubi's report included images of email exchanges

among Twitter officials deliberating how to handle dissemination of the post story on their platform. All right. dude retreats go to the threads you this guy yeah wrote this is this Dexter is this my friend Dexter Filkins who wrote this article they even put a byline no one kid no one's proud oh was this Michael what uh grin bomb sucks this article sucks dude anyway go go let's go the hey hold here's the here we go these are the tweets

all right the twitter files that's just that he didn't he doesn't have to seem that's just my account so that's why i'm not i'm not connected to this ray isn't reply guying that's what you're about to read is the first installment in a series based upon thousands of internal documents obtained by sources get to the point dude you know what never twitter threads aren't any better skip to the middle and see what it says.

Yeah, okay. Here we go. You want to start with it. Yeah, here it is. Yeah. By 2020 requests from connected actors to delete tweets were routine. One executive would write to another more to review from the Biden team. The reply would come back, handled.

Celebrities and unknowns alike could be removed. Caratop. Famously Caratop could be removed or reviewed at the behest of a political party. Oh, yeah. So this is what I was talking about. Both parties had access to these tools, for instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However, the system wasn't balanced?

But doesn't that the same as saying, well, like, both the United States and Iraq had access to war? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But ultimately the point is, like, because of the nature of this platform, it was obviously going to be skewed towards Democrats. Sure.

Yeah. Well, look, Trump is all. to be fair trump is also well those before i don't know i mean the guy the guy plays fast and loose a lot but you know apparently so is the biden team right i mean maybe this is a lesson you if you were teaching your kids something from this but you know the side note maybe it's don't act like if you want to be a madman act a little less like a madman people are gonna people are you know not not approve your request so take down tweets yeah perhaps i i know there's a bias but still oh yeah for sure look it's kind of thing you say your kid like it's like it's like it's not fair

life's not fair now bring me a scotch oh cut my hands off um at one point they did he does talk about like a democratic uh person i forget i forget their name but like it's basically somebody saying like look it's because basically twitter's justification for censoring the article was hacked materials like they have some kind of policy about hacked materials oh do they didn't they didn't they didn't do the uh stodin thing yeah i mean questionable how much they enforce it yeah uh but then like this democratic person actually pointed out like they were like look if we're going by journalistic standards and like the law a journalist doesn't have to be held responsible for the illegality of their source right yeah I would imagine yeah so this is a whole lot of nonsense uh but here's the all right so I was just accepted is true this has happened right I don't get like it's bad people are acting this is like I mean it's evidence and it's like a bias sure uh what's your take on it before i get into my thing oh i think twitter totally acted in a way

that was like embarrassingly biased um i mean like you know like look i didn't know about the whole like emails being revealed yeah probably if matt taeby was like a better journal you know it's like i feel like that's part of like independent journalist like weakness they just like dump things right and it's like yeah there are things you can reasonably redact like people's email addresses like sure yeah but it's like uh but yeah as far as the original thing the sub stack have like a highlighter thing that you can do that with if they don't if not substack you should invest in one of those things like on your iPhone where you can like cross out the name yeah subsection just have that if they don't have it already right i assume me this is from substack

i don't know how anything works yeah um do you think if i said to you because of this uh we should redo the 2020 presidential election you'd agree with that I don't know that seems to be going a little bit far what if I said this negates the Constitution look there's always instances of bias in the media I don't know no I'm saying what if this act by Twitter nullifies the Constitution which is ratified by old 50 states I assume whatever right this kind of our Constitution has been ratified by the representatives of the people of all 50 states, but doesn't dismalify that, the Constitution.

You know what? I've never even, I've never entertained the idea. Well, you should check out a guy named Donald Trump. Because he, this is all leading up to this. Donald Trump has, what's, what's the word here? The Constitution should be terminated due to massive election fraud. now I don't know if that's exactly what he said it ain't far off right where's he out here's a picture of Trump they have

he looks very presidential in my opinion but that doesn't matter he's doing dinosaur arms he is doing dinosaur arms former president Trump on Saturday falsely cited election fraud as a well you don't say false I mean I guess you have but whatever

isn't that kind of biased saying it's false falsely cited election fraud as a reason to terminate the constitution after alon musk refers to what he's saying so with the revelation of massive and widespread fraud and deception in working closely with big tech companies the dnc and the democratic party same thing right whatever maybe not do you throw the president election presidential election results in 2020 out and declare the rightful winner wait wait wait wait you throw the results out and declare the right.

So he's not even having a little election. Just declare, like, how does this DNC declare anything? The DNC is not part of the Constitution. The DNC does not have, like, super constitutional powers. I demand that the DNC declare me president. What is the line in succession? It's like the vice president, the secretary, the speaker of the house, right? Yeah.

Or the secretary of state. No, no, a speaker of the house comes next. secretary of state to the house on secretary of state um i'm not sure who comes after speaking of the speaker pro tem and then um the head of the wig party if they're not available the head of the dnc i mean what is this uh do you declare the rifle winner or do you have a new oh i'm sorry i apologize mr trump i didn't read far enough along or do you have a new election trump drones so he be fair he wasn't yeah I do think it's the strange to have the option of the DNC look if you want you

can just declare me the winner with your extra constitutional powers um where'd he say the whole part about um throwing at the constitution this part a massive force of this type of magnitude allows for the termination of all rules regulations and articles even though it's found in the constitution he continued our great founder did not want founder like one founder like Founder? Our great founder. Did not want and would not condone false and fraudulent elections.

You know what? I'm starting to like this guy. Look, he might be coming back. I mean, that his announcement speech was dull and drab. And we thought he lost it. Now, well, you look, apolitically, you have to admit the guy,

the guy's got panache, right? And it seemed like he lost him that panache. But that panache might be coming back. I would defy you know it's like I know that you're not like an anarchist anymore not for a long as long as I've been on any sort of public figures like I am I don't think I've been an anarchist but I did dab longed anarchism yeah back in your anarchist days yeah would this something like this win you over um calling for the termination of all rules

I mean, as anarchist, I guess you would have to say, no, I don't. I know I'm a little bit misconstruing anarchy here. No, you're not. I mean, it is interesting, you know, it just seems like a strange. I mean, look, to be, this is bad. It's not good. To be fair, if you want to get, though, I know what aboutism is not, is, is the, it's a refuge of the scoundrel.

But like, I think Republicans like Reagan, right? yeah they seem to like him didn't reagan like negotiate with the iranians to like keep the hostages hostages like been caught when the whole iran thing oh did he you might know more about yes he he made there was negotiation between what's his name ed uh who was his guy ed something is ed mees i think i think it was ed mees on behalf of reagan was making negotiations to not let the hostages, like, we're going to release them,

but you keep them until the inauguration. Don't release them before that. That's pretty fucked up. Yes. I mean, it's not about who's right or wrong. It's just these things happen, as my point.

Other lesser things than that have happened. We don't just have new elections, you know? We all know, like, Joe Kennedy bought the, I mean, Joe Kennedy bought the election for his son, right, at least in Chicago. Everyone knows that, right? Yeah.

Back in 60. And poor Richard Nixon was defrauded. And we didn't have a new election. And those are much. I mean, he literally paid off the Chicago mob to, I don't know, put dead people on the piano rolls. I mean, the voter rolls. Right. Piano rolls.

Speak easy. We should look, can we rent a player piano for the wedding? I don't see why we couldn't. Instead of a DJ. Oh, instead of a DJ? Yes. How many songs will it play? Those are things are kind of limited.

12. Yeah, 12 full songs. Oh, 12 full songs. Not just the samples. No, it's like a spool. Anyway. What songs would play on the player piano? I don't know.

Baby, there's another little piece of my heart. Who is that, Joplin? Yeah. yeah joplin do do do do do do do do do do do do is i'm not having this good enough that we're going to get copyright restricted or whatever we get copyright strike they hummed a janet chopin song anyway uh i don't know what do you what do you make do you do you think trump is where do you lie in the in the in the trump premise of uh the constitution can be burned Um, yeah, I mean, look, I don't know if it's as, if it's as simple as he's making it out to be, uh, I don't know if the founder would have thrown out all the rules of the Constitution. Which one is the founder, by the way?

I wonder which one he considers the founder. Probably Andrew Jackson. Oh, man. I mean, he, he was good. Andrew Jackson. He had a big wheel of cheese. Yes. For the people. Big block of cheese day. West Wing. Do they actually do that? We were watching this West Wing episode called Big Block a Cheese Day.

I don't think it was called Big Block of Cheese Day, but something's that effect. It was something like that. Big block of, it was a wheel of cheese, I think. And the premise was that the once a year the White House hears from like tiny little interest groups that they usually ignore. Look, here's the thing.

You are asking me if they really do that. And you're pretending to like things. I like, because I like, or Aaron Sorkin. I didn't say I like that episode. Well, you're pretending to like, oh, I'll bring this up because Ray knows about it. And he's real, if you pay any attention to it, you'd know, this was a quirky thing that the chief of staff did. It wasn't something that was like in, it wasn't part of the Constitution, which we're negating

right now. All right? No, I don't think they, they might. Sometimes the White House does things that aren't in the Constitution because it's just traditional. I don't think it's, I think it's made clear that Leo. the pill addict recovered chief of staff played by John Spencer

played by the late John Spencer was his quirky thing he did okay all right I wonder if while Aaron's story because it is kind of a fun idea I wonder if while Aaron Sorkman was writing it he was hoping that it would be like he would like become part of the Hey look some of my maybe David Oxlerod

but he was in the White House I could see someone like him Hey let's do this thing and then like And then they drone strike a wedding. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, it would probably be such a big pain in the ass for so little political return. They're just meeting with like neo-Nazis.

Yeah. Nazis would start complaining that they aren't included in big block of cheese day. They might have a point. They might have like a legal point. The ACLU might have to take Nazi sides again. Is the ACLU and Nazi organization? didn't they I mean they've always defended the like you know the rights of Nazis right no it's it's like Adidas it used to it used to it used to be Nazi but now it's

anti-nazzi wait was Nazi no I'm just kidding but yeah they just used to no but I'm saying no I'm being facetious but the reality is I mean because they're supporting like you know it's the whole thing if you defend the worst offenders right yeah which is you know yeah they've done that on many occasions I don't know if they would you know it's a good question I'm not sure if they would Imagine if they were actually, like, just part of the boon. And like, hey, what if we just pretend we're like civil rights guys? And we, like, ironically, the constitutional thing is to support the KKK.

Ironis, it's, what's the word oxymoronic? That's what this is. Anyway, I'm not, I'm a, I'm liberal. Very liberal. Look, this organization disgusts me. But do they not have the same liberties that we did? this is the lynching case I have to go to the bathroom why did anyone brief me on this anyway so how what now the Constitution has been nullified I guess what

do we do where we go from here do we make is he suggesting we make a new constitution I don't think that's what you suggest I don't get that vibe I think it's just make me the king oh okay what if trump was king would that be better than trump as president because trump as president didn't seem great didn't seem to work out that well for anyway even the people who even the conservatives i don't think god telling what they want to be wanted some people got you know they got they got the what that the travel ban they like that i don't know but it didn't seem like you know people loved what he did would they like it better as king as king could he do more

could he make big towers I think that in general for the country it would for the country it would be worse but under Trump specifically I think he'd be better as a king because people could like lot people could appeal to him directly

he could build a moat and he they could maybe warm hit the cockles of his heart and he would um yeah I'd to warm his cockles yeah um he would build a cap on for all the homeless he would drain the swamp and use that water to populate his

moat was you put you know that'd be great yeah imagine a moat imagine America why would make a good pro-Trump being king cartoon instead of a wall why don't we have a moat a giant moat um like not sure why don't we just dig a giant moat around America yeah Mexico and Canada we could make it nice too too well that was a moat nice i don't know we could plant some flowers we're a moats full of dead bodies and and cannonballs that are thrown at the people who used to be alive and they're dead bodies oh yeah and alligators alligators uh raccoons with boats i guess you can't if i was the king of america which i can be now because trump no by the constitution technically under biden did

I would get little raccoons and I put them in little boats and I would have them like patrolling they wouldn't actually do anything there'd be cameras right but it'd be a real raccoon on a real little boat nailed to the boat or something I don't know you nail the feet of the boat

you're obsessed with trapping things to other things you're obsessed with you're always gluing animals to something or nailing them to something I forgot we could glue it you're right is that nailing it that's nicer it's more you mean no it's not I think it is I think you're the only gluing wait so you don't think glue traps are more humane than than snap traps or what we call them absolutely no they're worse why because the the mouse pulls its body apart and slowly dies the snap just snaps its neck or something I can't be held accountable for like I mean the mouse

probably does that immediately is panics I can't be I can't be responsible for things that panic all right if a raccoon does that they're panicking we're gonna we're gonna feed it we're gonna give it at home it's only it's not gonna be 24 7 it's gonna be a little dock for these boats they radio controlled or whatever the satellite controlled they'll go back to the dock and then we'll put the raccoon in a little bed at night well they'll I I bet I you're on to something the raccoon gets a gun by the way so it's also it's not helpless I think you're on to something here. You could have kind of 24-7, like, loud speakers.

Yeah. Informing migrants about the raccoons. We have armed raccoons patrolling the moat. And they'll be like, whoa, like, people will think, like, whoa, did they, like, did they, like, breed some kind of super-intelligent raccoon? But no, it was just a raccoon. Right. Now, you speak Spanish now, right? You're trying to.

Yeah, yeah. How would I say that in Spanish? How do we translate this? Look, I need to look up the word for raccoon. This de world lingo is doing nothing. I could do that. You could say everything but raccoon? Mapache.

Mapache. All right, now, without looking anything else up. Oh, you're going to look at it, now you're going to train them the whole sentence? No, no, that's what I thought it was. That's what I thought it was. Okay. Attention. Ombres and Mujeres.

See? Uh Los Mappaches Estan Moe Pellegroso Does that mean? Dangerer Yeah

The raccoons are very dangerous Yeah Okay Raccoons are very dangerous But that Tienes Uh Just for the hold

They're Howe deece a gun Just here You just go to Google Transit Write this whole thing out Okay All right attention those who would transverse our moat be warned this moat is populated with incredibly intelligent

armed raccoons who ride small boats and are trained to shoot anything they see why i for your benefit you've been warned now read that to me in spanish okay this is a very long message right to finish it attention a los kei a traverser in our our foso. Tenga, Ciudado, this fos is populated

by Mapaches armados incredibly intelligibly intelligent in the little

boats and are entranados to disparate to whatever cause

that they see FYI for their benefit has advertido. I'd be a great king.

I'd be an amazing king. I don't, I mean, look, this would, people would, like, I don't mind people coming over here. I don't even know what the big deal is. People say, the taking job. I don't care. Oh, they're getting health care and schools are bad down. I don't care. I don't care of anything. I'm an anarchist. The Constitution doesn't exist anymore.

We're a nullified constitution, and you complain to me about, like, people coming over here. I mean, in a state of anarchy, which we're in now, because, you know, according to Trump, I mean, what is a nation state? What are borders? Yeah, I mean, in a way, with his suggestion, he's created a borderless society. It's actually very interesting.

He should team up with Thomas Friedman, because the world is flat now, baby. Yeah, that should be his 2020. campaign slogan. The Trump, 2024, the world is flat. The world is flat and my wife is not.

Nice. He likes those. He likes those. He likes those. He likes those big tattas. What? Nothing. What?

Nothing. I never say tata. What? It's fine. I don't like that. I don't want to be a term. You don't like the term, Todd? I think it's nasty.

dirty uh now the supreme court how do you refer to breasts generally breasts nice really like a nurse i mean it depends like this big heaving breasts no i guess tits i guess but like i don't say it like no i just kind of like it's just yeah cool yeah hams nice hams nice hams nice ham sandwich you got a couple ham sandwiches out in there um now the the supreme court you would think would be like oh my god we got to address what trump said no they got something else in their minds right where you could you have this story for me about the supreme court and what they're doing something

completely different oh right yeah let's bring this up now this pictures It looks like McLevin is being assaulted by several large men. Yeah, several men celebrating a baby shower. What is this story, please? What is happening here? This is about what? Gay rights. Gay rights.

Okay. I'm all for gay rights. You said something, this is similar to the cake story, but what is this? Yeah, so if many may remember or not remember, a bake. a Christian cake baker who refused to bake gay cakes right I am making gay cakes yeah well now that's what he said let me well if you liked won't bake a gay cake Christian Baker then you're gonna love won't make a gay website web designer there is a there is a lady who designs websites and she doesn't want to do it

so she refused to make gay widgets yeah exactly some gay guy wanted to make a widget yeah he's like n uh i mean is it a gay website or is the guy just gay it was for a gay couple's wedding oh like a wedding website yeah okay um she doesn't want to do it she's not gonna do it the supreme court's conservative majority on monday sounded ready to rule that a christian website designer has a free speech right to refuse to work with same-sex couples planning to marry. The justices heard arguments in the Colorado case that posed a conflict between the First Amendment rights of a business owner and a state anti-discrimination law that gives customers a right to equal service without regard to

their race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. So I mean I get it. The cake baker they said he could refuse, right? The cake baker, they sided with them. Yeah. Okay. So that's the equal rights amendment we're talking about? Wait, I think they did. I don't know. The outcome could cover the whole laws of California and 20 other mostly blue states

that directly forbid discrimination against LGBTQ customers. Just Q, not Q2. Isn't there more usually? I guess you can't. I guess a plus is too vague for the Supreme Court. What about the two spirits thing? I guess, yeah. So two, they're cool with two spirits, not getting websites.

I guess that would be included in trans. No, two spirits is the, is the LGBTQ2. You ever heard this? No, I've never heard the Q2. Q2 plus. You're out of the loop here. Is LGBT, lesbian, by, gay, trans, queer? I thought it was questioning.

But I might be out there. Oh, you're right, okay. Questioning. and it's two for two spirits and a plus I think I wonder if a questioning person has ever gotten discriminated against like in an official capacity we should we should look into this yeah this'll be showing our substack

a guy is buying a hammer at a store and at a home depot and as he's checking out the hammer he goes by the way I'm not I'm not sure if I'm gay or not and the and the counterperson says well then until you figure it out yeah i'm not telling you this hammer you better not question anything in front of me i know i know i'm trans but i mean whatever um the case is brought by lorry smith the website designer seeking to expand her

business include weddings but she filed suit against so she's not even a wedding website designer she like i'm i didn't think about expanding in the wedding the first person tries to what i'm not doing your wedding but she filed suit against the state of Colorado seeking assurances that she need not work with the same sex. Wait, did she actually not have a client? Wait, she hasn't had any clients?

Wait, wait, the case was brought by Laurie Smith, the website designer, seeking to expand her business to include weddings. But she filed suit against the state of Colorado seeking assurances that she need not work with the same sex couple seeking such a wedding website. She's just, this is all hypothetical.

I mean, I know like, in the end of the day, it's kind of that you have to have a specific case because, like, these affect so many other people. Right. But that's how it works. You can't just, like, sue someone. Hey, look, if I happen to, like, start a website company,

I'm just picturing something, like, fat woman. Yeah. Like, eating a bag of Cheetos going to, like, just kind of, like, I don't have a phone with, like, judge. Imagine this. What if I, like, it's, like, it's, like, good fellas. It was, like, well, it was casino. that she's like now what if I want to get one of those sandwiches that like have they banned

from the casino what what I want to go in those sandwiches that like can I go with it no you're banned completely what if I want to start a wedding website company yeah but a gay guy tries to get me to make a wedding website for this gay wedding I mean do you have it has anyone tried as a gay couple come to you and ask you for your services I got to be sure I'm in the clear here because I'm not going to start a wedding website company if I have to do it for have you had any customers has anyone asked you to design their website for you i i find that very offensive the questioning very offensive all right i'm a web i am i i i signed up for the adobe backs uh forum i went to adobe max 22 was i paid 30 dollars for a day pass

i think i know about website okay um all right so your question is it when if if and when you start business and might get a customer currently i'm part of a uh a flipping fall scam right a little disability uh you know i'm getting out here i i hurt myself at walmart my husband said a good thing you got you got a settlement so you can sit on your ass all day and i said i'll show you i'm going to open a wedding design website and i'm going to double my money what money you spend it all on Cheos you fat

you fat princess you fat lazy queen of England Jesus she's willing she's quote willing to create custom websites for anyone

including those who identifies LGBT they wrote Quote, provided their message does not conflict with her religious views, but she cannot create websites that promote messages contrary to her faith, such as messages that condone violence or promote sexual morality, abortion, or same-sex marriage. What? Or same-sex marriage. Look, I am willing to make a wedding website for a gay guy who has a beard.

If a gay guy is going to marry a woman, And I'm fine making that website. But they're going to, or is it more, I'll make a gay marriage website, as long as it doesn't promote gay marriage. Hey, it's like, we're ashamed to invite you to the union of Larry and Todd. It would be great if like this went to the Supreme Court, she wins. And then like a year later, she's exclusively doing hardcore pornography sites. She's just like, yeah, those were the only people who wanted my,

those were the only people who came to me so i just started i was just like ah fuck it what you want to do i mean uh people get it's hard to me to hit the keys because i want cheeto dust accumulated so i screwed up a lot of websites the only people who hired me are hardcore pornograph actually is not true the pornography websites are like the cream of the crop yeah the crumbed out of the crime of the no the hardcore pornography people would never let this woman build their website no she just know how to like you think she does you think she knows html no Or PerlScript or JavaScript or JavaScript or you think she just uses like this is her you know like us look We're not sponsored by Wix. We're not sponsored by Squarespace. Yeah, right that's the company right? Right, but those companies exist right and you can just go in there and make a little website. Yeah, is she just using those

Yeah, she really is just Any time she gets it. She's just like oh, I was what's your business plan? There's a people come to me as her website. I go on Wix's I made it broil. Oh, God. So she, did she witness? So the Supreme Court's going to side with her. Is this how the president gets set now?

You can just make up like, what if I, what if I marry a black woman? Is that legal? Yeah, like, look, historically. And they just go, no,

let us the Supreme Court's like, let us check. Like, historically there have a lot of cases, including like good Supreme Court rulings. A lot of cases where, like, The ACLU is involved and they were setting it up.

Like, you know, the Loving versus Virginia couple they were asking them to get arrested. I get that. It's a little bit semantic or whatever, a little bit like, you know, yeah. I don't know that there are many cases of a woman just like calling the helpline of the Colorado government and going like, what if I make a wedding website and then going, I'm going to sue you when they're like, I don't know. I'm not even sure exactly what you're asking. Wait, you're designing the site when you're going on Wix?

I'm going to sue you. All right. I mean, I'm not, you can't sue me, but whatever. Like, you still go, I don't care. I make, I mean, I got a pension. This is crazy. This is insane. What is happening to this country?

I mean, you could say philosophically, what's the difference of, like, yeah, like, Loving versus whatever, loving goes who? Virginia. Virginia. Well, like, engineered it kind of versus, you know, her just doing this. But it makes it. don't know it makes a difference yeah what's the difference someone wearing sweatpants on in first class and wearing a suit different feels different uh i don't know i mean this is why i don't

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