Kump - 138 - Deviled Sam

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

Ray and Lucie discuss The Grammy's, Sam Smith, a Pizza Boy, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Today on comp, we got a mafia pizza boy, we got Grammy highlights, Google chat button, much more. Stay tuned. Hello and welcome to come. What do you think that new the new intro thing I did? I thought it was manly. Thank you. It's very aggressive. It's very, I realize I have to, I have to just be, you know, I've been exercising the past few.

I've been doing like 10,000 steps every day. The interesting thing, and it's good for me, obviously, to move. But what I've been doing is I haven't been going to the park. I haven't been going to the treadmills at the, in the gyms i will do laps once every hour i do a thousand steps around our couch and i don't know i i it's good i mean i'm i'm i'm definitely getting a workout anything not to leave the apartment huh well i that's interesting you bring that up because it made me realize i haven't i don't think i ever told you this ever but i have this weird fantasy i guess you'd call it i don't

know daydream fantasy that like our apartment is a prison and it would be like it would be nice if like we had to go to jail for some reason like you know we we sold somebody out we ratted on our neighbors you know something something where I'm not doing any harm I it would be nice if our apartment was just like that that's where and you just had what wouldn't prison but somehow we could go together and be in a prison I didn't occur to me that part of it. But yeah, sure. But just the idea of like, I'm just, I can't go anywhere, but I'm locked away.

But I can, you know, I have a TV and a PS5. I can do laps around my couch and smoke cigarettes on the balcony. It's more of a go to your room than prison. I guess. I don't know. I don't know what that says about me, about my id, about my super ego. And I have nowhere, you know, I have nothing to elaborate. with that you know but you saying that actually just made me realize something yes which is that

part of the punishment of prison basically is that you're in there with other with burly men who can beat you up now whatever if you remove the burly men then it's just kind of a respite from the world to quote top gun pain don't hurt um look it's more i think it's also you know you you sleep on concrete typically and maybe you have a mattress and you know you shower you yeah but i don't think most people would mind the mattress so much if you just had a a little playground to yourself well look look sure if you if your argument is if you said to a prisoner hey we're going to take you out of jem pop and people aren't going to stab you you don't to take part in like you know race coordinated uh prison fights because it's kind of thing where it's like you know i've heard i've

You don't have to participate in prison fights to entertain the likes of Ray Kump any longer. That was one day, one day where I watched some videos out of curiosity and people won't let me live it down. The point is, when you're in prison, you have to take part in these fights if you're part of the whites or the black or whoever. Typically, it's under racial lines. I think it should be under hobbies. I think the guys who like, you know, who like model trains should be one group and the guys who like, you know anime should be one group but you know but they tend prison tends by interest prison tends to do it based on race which i think is reductive but you know

well who you can't buck the system sometimes and so as if you don't if you don't take part in a fight that's the worst thing about it you can't lay low because you know if you don't take part in the fight and you can say well i'm not going to join the way well that i don't think i don't know from experience but the gist i get is that doesn't work out if you don't take part if you know if you're not part of a group yeah it doesn't seem to go well i don't know how it works um this is this is not one of those like you know um forbs dot com or whatever things where it's like prison inmate tells you about i know nothing i'm just fantasizing about me doing my little exercises but it's prison for something i don't know uh welcome to the show

how are you how you doing lucy i'm doing fine that's fantastic did you watch the grimmies last night No, I know I didn't, but we're going to watch some clips. We have some clips. We are not part of the milieu. Is that how you say, milieu, milieu, the mil yuck of music. It's more of a mill yuck if you ask me. I did end up incidentally hearing some of the Beyonce album, which didn't. Oh, yeah, we listened to it.

We both listened to the Beyonce. Which did not win. It was pretty good. It's not, you know, it's not my cup of tea because it's not, you know, themed on the video game mega man that's the only music i like lately is a band that is it's all about mega man they sing songs about make the the the proto men and they sing songs about the theoretical narrative of mega man the video game in the 80s um if bonte had done that i would say she was robbed right now i'm kind of indifferent but uh what what what happens so harry like

what you you tell me uh do we have highlights to check out we do let's take a look at this So these are Grammy. This is what good morning? Who is this person? Is this a music woman? This is the good morning America lady. Okay. I forget her name. She's going to teach us about music. Let's turn this up. Is that loud enough? How do we turn? Here we go. Hold on. Something for just about everyone from Smokey and Stevie Queen Latifah, Beyonce's crowning achievement and Harry Stiles bringing down the house. Lara, you stayed up for it all. It was like what four hours. I did it. It was great. All hail the queen, queen be.

This is what, like, I mean, people watch in the morning? What is this? I mean, we try to put on a good show here, and this is a little haphazard sometimes. But they just seem like they roll out of bed and they're like, ah, Sarita, did you watch the show? I sure did. I watched the hair of styles.

This is what I think of. I mean, I'm sure she has a lot of, a lot of, Beyonce has a lot of black women who love her. White women, too. No, but like I'm saying, No, no, no, I'm saying this is like, this is what I imagine when I imagine a Beyonce fan. Oh, right. It's just the whitest woman in the world going like, Queen B.

Yes. My husband, my husband got drunk and broke my leg last night. Queen B. Broke her leg, huh? Her legs broken. What is it? Wait, hold on. Oh, she's got a little, like, boot on.

She's a little, little, like, cast or something. That's, that's problematic. What? Well, I don't know. I mean, why is everything got to be a race problematic or a gender problematic? Why can't be, like, your leg doesn't work. That's problematic for you. Yeah.

Well, let's hate the language back. Why are they making her stand? Why is she the only one standing? Because she's got a broken leg. Because, uh, what good is she if they can't see the cast? We don't get, we don't get any better. It defeats its own purpose. All hail the queen, queen be, huge night for her.

Who's, wait, I thought she lost. Explain life to me, Lucy, what's happening here? Well, I think she won other shit. Maybe she didn't win an album of the year, but like. But people say, you're saying she got, I don't know. It's always a big night for Beyonce. Yeah, yeah. She's only worth $200 million now.

Like more, whatever. This year's Grammys had performances that really crossed all genres. Did they not like include the rock category in the telecast? Lizzo Harry style it's all pop credible Motown medley and a decade-spanning hip-hop celebration and that is not even close to covering she should not be allowed to say hip-hop I'm not I don't care how if that sounds gatekeeping or not it's just it's not because she's white it's just because she's her yeah take a look oh this is terrible from harry styles to lizzo

in case somebody made you believe your special oh god i mean this is what people say he's good what happened to tina turner you're seeing tina turner oh yeah better She was great She was better than Lizzo I mean Was she doing rolling on the river And like

Sir What did you say the other day You were singing that song And you said something Queen Mary So like Queen Mary That's the actual name of the boat Is the Queen Mary

Right but you said Queen Queen Queen But I was singing proud Mary And I was like Queen Mary Cambered Yeah that's not that the song goes But There's no way that I Olivia Wilde actually let Harry Styles

have sex with her, is there? I mean, like Olivia Wilde's a robot. I've never seen a man so awkwardly be non-binary. I mean, yeah. Is he non-binary? I thought he's just bisexual. I don't know. I think he's non-binary curious. Look, whatever he is, he just doesn't do it anywhere near as well as Bowie did.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but look, these people, these are all photocopies. I should say male musician. These are all photo copies of like what we used think music was you know it's like Tina turn like Bowie or like you know even though Led Zeppelin was stealing everyone's music it had panache no this music has panache anymore yeah I know I know Jimmy Page for the 14-year-old girl in castle that's not great but yeah chat GPT will never be able to replace music because this is already

AI yeah this is I mean you can't make this anymore artificial you're special you're good person feel good when you hear this shut up opening act by bad bunny this guy apparently is the biggest guy in the world and people on twitter are like i can't believe you if you don't know who bad bunnies that's on you and it's like it's on me i mean i've heard him now because of twitter oh this is the first one i was just thinking like it i i'm not losing it too much because so far i recognize all these people but bad this is the first one where yeah i don't know who this person is he dressed like joey lawrence

from 1992. Fucking white jeans. Oh, is this white reggae? No, he's Hispanic, so it's fine. Oh. Why is he here? Why is this rat who was mean to the help here? Didn't he mean to waiters?

Yeah. He didn't get my eggs. He like, he got mad because there was a hair and his wife's eggs Florentine or something, which is a little gross, I guess. eat hair all the time, by the way. I'm going to put myself large for this. When I eat a sandwich or a wrap

and I, and there's a long, sometimes it's your hair. Your hair just gets everywhere. Your hair gets everywhere. When I get a long piece of hair inside of a wrap, I've already eaten half this thing. I've already eaten half the hair. Why are people so grossed out by hair? It does feel weird in your mouth.

Now look, I understand not liking the sensation of a hair in your mouth, but that being said, I have picked a out of a plate of food and eating it before i mean a cockroach i have a plate of food just eating the cockroach when i was waitressing i probably ended up in a lot of my hair probably ended up in a lot of food yeah but you were young and you were you were you were young dashing uh anjanu and so all these men in and in the small town diner were probably just tidalated oh i got got some of her hair

i wonder it's from her head you get the drift the throne belonging to the one and only queen herself biance wait wait i thought she lost i don't understand what we're watching everyone all i hear today is look at j z by the way his hair is nice that long flowing hair fiance breaking the record for most grammy wins by an artist yeah she probably got it for well wait she's the grammy for most when she has the record for most grammy wins and like like they're just mad that she doesn't get album in the year yeah cares it's all fake i'm trying not to be too emotional and i'm trying to just receive this night

taking home or i mean good for her for best dance electronic music album emotional as she thank those who have shaped her career and life i like to thank my beautiful husband my beautiful Jay Z looks like a goddamn legend he looks he looks like a he looks like he looks like he looks like the president in a movie about the future

yeah he does you know President Jay Z he could be why he's the president I mean I know he's not a politician about how bad can this get and like is he worse than Biden

is he worse than Trump hey how could he be he built a big network of people of a business he doesn't Imagine if they were, imagine for a second. If Jay-Z was president, Beyonce was his first lady, and I know what you're going to say, why can't be the other way around?

Stop it. Fine. I'll take that too. I think Beyonce would be a stronger candidate, honestly. I think she'd be more likely to win. I don't know. Jay-Z is like, ha-ha. You know, he was spit.

I haven't seen Jay-Z talk in public in years, I feel like. I mean, yeah, but he rapped for years, you know, tech on the dresser, all those raps. Left my tech on the dress, whatever, that was great raps, the blueprint, you know, 99 problems and, you know, whatever. It's all, it's all fun. Also, he would bring a lot of dignity to the first man, to being the first, first man, I think. You wouldn't, oh, you're right, because there isn't one yet. Because, you know, he would be, like, it's like, it's hard to deny, like, you know, like his masculinity being a mogul and everything. I mean, do you have a hard time?

I thought you were a feminist. Do you think that like first men are just, I'm just thinking about it realistically in terms of optics, like, you know. Sure. Though, to be fair, Kamala Harris' husband, I just forget who he is. He's a schlub. He's a big nothing. I don't necessarily think he's gotten a bunch of shit for being the second man.

But no, he's, I just don't remember who he is. He's a big turd burger. Big nothing burger. His name is Doug, right? Doug. Doug. Doug's a really forgettable name. Doug.

I mean, I've known Doug. Dugs are good guys, but I mean, for the, for the man. I'm sorry. Douglas. He called himself Douglass. That's the thing. You call yourself Douglas at that point. I mean, the Dugs I've known, they haven't called Douglas, but they weren't in the White House.

Or wherever she is, the Naval Observatory. If you're living in the Naval Observatory, you're living in the Naval Observatory, you call yourself Douglas MacArthur he's not Doug McArthur you know he was the general of the Pacific right yeah he wasn't Doug McArthur hey Doug it's terrible no Douglas children who are at home watching all right and Lizzo paying tribute to the queen during her own acceptance speech for record of the year in the fifth grade Wasn't the between records to do or an album, records of the song? That wasn't the song, though, was it?

You're special! I mean, I know Lizzo is talented, but that's just, like, this is what makes it worse. Yeah. I know she's got talent. But, like, you can't just sing your special. I'll skip school to see you perform. Like a Taylor Swift in the background.

Just hoping Connie doesn't attack her. Don't give me an award, please. I don't need the I don't need the heat. You changed my life. Harry Styles is here tonight, everybody. Harry Stiles walking away with the night's biggest prize, though, album of the year. And the Grammy goes to. Presented by a super.

So is he not supposed to win? Was this not a good pop album? I don't know. What if happened to Bruno Mars? I liked him. He was funky. Yeah, what did happen at Bruno Mars? What was his only had?

Do, do, do. People with the saxophones. do do do do do I like it was great yeah you're all doing in unison like do do do do do I love that uptown funk yeah no it was something of heaven

because I'm in heaven there's nothing better than having a bunch of guys on the sax all moving in unison I love it I'm a slut for saxophone but yeah why aren't they given him a little military parade at the Grammings

I don't think he's a song in years. I mean, to be fair. Is he sick? It's Brno Marx sick. I mean, I mean, I think people just tend to not, like, make music forever. Yeah, but he's not, like, they're acting like he's an old man. No, but, like, you have that magic and it's gone. You think the magic lasts forever?

No, I'm just saying, I don't think he's the magic man? I just find it hard to believe that Harry Stiles' magic is lasting longer than his magic. No, he's just got, I mean, Harry Stile, what's he going to do? Be like, hey. this one is fine, just like the other ones. Bruno Mars got people doing saxophone shit. He's got to top that. What's Harry Stiles got a top?

Jason Zadakis? I just have a bad feeling that like Bruno Mars keeps getting bumped from lineups because Harry Stiles is wearing a new, it's like awkwardly standing in a Dior dress. They're like, well, we need one of those. He's dressing like a little mermaids. Wow, that's fine.

I'm just saying wear it with a little, Wear it with a little sex. Seriously, though. That's what's a little cringe to me. Do whatever you want, but like, commit to it. He's standing there on a hill in a Dior dress like his abusive mother has dressed him up to humiliate him. It really is just like, it is just kind of like this thing where it's like him, like he's doing like the James Bond pose. There's nothing cheeky about it.

Right. He's just like, he's just like, he's like, see, some football jock and it's part of their weird hazing reason. ritual right but he's like yes exactly it's like he's being hazed now I know people take issue of us calling Harry Styles a football job but you get my point um we're gonna be the this is this is real cancelable behavior we're just going up to Harry styles imagine if we had anything that mattered Jason Siddakis please please can Jason Sondakis please give us a job if something happens to us I mean, we're on your side.

I don't care. I mean you were to the nanny or whatever. Were they screaming a nanny in the street or something? Oh, is he supposed to be a bad? I know. I think they were both just putting this nanny in an awkward position because they were, I don't know. What, were they trying to fuck her?

And that's why they got divorced? No. Because the nanny didn't want to have sex with either of them. We might just wrap this up. Yeah. We can't even beg the nanny. No, I think it was something. thing where like they were fighting and the kids were there and he just was like no i'm taking the

kids i don't care what olivia wild said olivia wild from house md yeah remember remember she was on house md yeah i liked it well we're on your side jason sedacus team sedacus yeah just just without necessity because lucy just dug us a whole harry styles here's the harry styles what they call them stylists that we call harry style fans we're stylists they're going to after us we should we should call this like harry what we're under style it's a what kind of pun can we use for the title harry harry's bad style we need we need a marketing team anyway the hair the hairy pigs are coming after us what do you call this fans of harry pigs I love it

Wow You're just aggressive So I guess we'll move on For this highlight I don't even ever been as mean About anyone I mean he wasn't good in that movie Was it an Olivia Wild movie

What was it? We talked about it With the Jordan Peterson movie They made The Jordan Peterson movie Where the villain was nothing Like Jordan Peterson Right

He was just some guy It was just Christopher Pine pretending to act Yeah I mean He's good Kirk whatever um anyway uh there was there was a controversy of the night though oh really yes there was people are mad about this i guess um this thing that happened

you know who is sam smith this is sam smith um sam smith was a was a very um uh an emotion like an emo kind of boy singer who gay boy singer like i mean i'm trying to i'm actually not trying to be weird about it i'm just trying to describe him he was right he he was uh openly gay singer that was like his thing he that was the thing he did emo kind of um are a little bit rmb he did he did a um beautiful he did the song stay with me i think oh wait yeah okay wasn't with that wasn't that or i'm i'm not the only one okay i think we used to play him a cocktail parties at weddings i didn't realize there was the same guy guy yeah he has a very like you know you're beautiful that guy no that's that's

james blunt i don't know whatever okay so he this guy i guess he's not far off from james blunt whatever let's let's play something now he's getting really uh he's getting edgy he's getting edgy all right that's kind of cool i don't know if we can play i like fire i like Pirate Technics. I turn his audio for a second. That's not working. Mute the computer audio for me. The USB ones.

Just hit me on it. So this is what we're looking at. It's a big fire thing. And he's dressed like the devil's ham guy. Right? He's dressed like the devil's ham ham. People are acting like. Here's the thing.

You can't go this edgy. because, you know, there was also a thing where he was wearing nipple tassels at one point. Right. Not a good idea to go all like, all like dark edgy. But Ty Cruz, this is evil. Hollywood freaks still thinking they're so edgy would there say talent theme performances. Well, look, that's fine. That's fair.

Because it's look, let's call us what is. People, there's plenty of people going, this is evil. Yeah. And it's like, I have no problem calling out, quote, quote, Satan. Right? I mean, it's a trope has been happening for decades. D&D and all. all that nonsense having me a motley crew i guess i don't know judas priest but i mean you know i'm i'm

didn't you look at the the stuff with the bohemian grove or whatever i mean look i'm not the q anonon thing kind of through this curve in the ocean right but there is some weird shit these guys do sure but then you have at the end of the day they're just dorks this guy's just a dork dressed up like a ham man i think it's fine to call them dorks but it's like you can't it's also like you can't have it both ways you can't have like you know uh you can't have politicians like crying being like this evil this is corrupting the youth and then have and then also be like you're a dork like it's like i think you got to pick aside no i'm calling out these politicians saying that it's evil yeah okay yeah no i'm saying like this is my point that like

these guys in the right who are supposed to be the alphas right they're supposed to be the machismo boys Isn't it much more alpha to just be like, I just don't know, oh, yeah, for sure. He was clown dressed up like a devil ham mascot, you know? Like that's, why is that not the better response? Like, can you see like Paul Newman? Now, Paul Newman wasn't conservative, I guess. But the guy Paul Newman would play.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Can you see that guy where Clint Eastwood being like, this is evil? I mean, maybe he does. But it's just, I like to think that the, yeah, well, Josie Wales would just be like, what's this freak up to?

what is this Halloween you know like I mean I don't understand how it's like you're supposed to be like the dad from leaving the beaver wouldn't be like oh yeah right you know I get I know it's all fake but like all am we supposed to be like Andy Griffith or whatever right that's the division of of of yeah idyllic America yeah Andy Griffith would be like I mean Don Knott's would be. Yeah. They're all, here's a problem of conservatives in their movement. They're all acting like Don Knott. It's supposed to be Andy Griffith. Bring a picture of Don Knott and Andy Griffith together.

Because this is a reference that not everyone might get. That I think it's good enough to, you know, let's see. Because it's a show, it's the show where Ron Howard got his, bring him together, though. I mean, that's just, that's not them in character. just well fine i'll find it all right but this is the show it was about i don't know what they were

doing there were cops and yeah that's that that's a good picture these guys bring this up these it was about cops back in like the 1950s yes good look at the oh let's i'll turn us off for a second look at these guys there were just uh two cops and there and you got the guy in the left is like is he is he the alpha male ideal i think so right he's tall he's that dark hair might be going a little far but and donnaz is just a oh my god yeah that's how can Ted Cruz acts like don't yeah that's the problem i just nailed it but also i think there's an even better take here with sam sam smith what's that which is that you know it's normal for for musicians to have an edgy phase It's normal for musicians to have an edgy phase

where they want to do something a little bit like a little bit more a little bit darker but also a little bit more sexually explicit. Sure. You should probably start that phase when you're still like young and skinny. There's something really, really sad

about like an aging fat man. Yeah, bring a picture of him. In nipple tassels and wearing a Satan suit. Like he said, a deviled ham suit he barely fits into. Yeah, I mean, like, Marilyn Manson, when you watch the Beautiful People video, it's, like, still creepy. And even more creepy when you know, he, like,

he, like, kidnapped women or whatever. He was accused of them, right? Yeah. But, like, you know. Bad girl box. The bad girl box. But that, yeah, give me a picture of him, actually. This is not what he looked like.

Yeah. You know, he squeezed into, like, a, like, Like something you would find that, like, you pay $30 for at a Halloween store. Yeah, his thighs look all fat in it, but like, but he's, his, uh, his ass is kind of like hanging flat in it at the same time. Yeah, just bring up one of these pictures. He's squeezed in. He's got, like, he's got, it looks like something like, it looks like a girl's sexy devil costume that's like been, like he's squeezed himself into. Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got like.

Like a, he's got a, he's got like a double chin. He's just like got like it. He was a fat shame him too hard. He's got a, he's just got this like depressed five o'clock shadow. Like it doesn't look rugged. Yeah. I don't know who this is supposed to be like, like, like little Naz X was like putting blood into shoes, right? Yeah, Little Nas X is a good example of how to do it well, I think.

And he's not scary, but like it's like, at least this is like, oh, this is a body. It's evocative. Yeah. This is just like, this is like some open mic or in Long Island, like a governor's comedy club. Hey, I'm Bob a devilman. I'm Bob Devilman McIpsy. And I'm going to do dirty jokes.

Exactly. Yeah, I don't know. This Sam Smith's performance was so demonic. Definitely unholy. I know we were on the right probably used the word. Definitely unholy. I know we on the right probably used the word. where it's satanic too often.

This performance in Sam Smith is literally a tribute to Satan. You can't be a tribute to Satan when you're dressed like the devil in Looney Tunes like cartoon. Yeah, like this is not how people dress when they're doing a tribute to Satan. I guarantee you. I'm not a metaphysical person. I mean, I was raised religious, but I'm not a deeper religious person. If the devil is real, he does not look like this.

I mean, this is not even what like they, I mean, religious imagery. He'd be like a serpent man. Right. Not like a guy with a ritsy top hat with horns on him. This is, I don't know what this is. I mean, why can't we just, I mean, I think it was we're both said, but why can't people just have some dignity and what they were pulled by? You know?

Like, can you just, like, the level of self-delute of, like, because no one actually thinks this. No one's scared of him. Right. It's just his performance. Not his performance. It's their performance. I'm like, yes, I mean, what are you getting with these clicks?

A Lamborghini? All right, I get it. I get it now. They get to get Lamborghini. Somehow they figured out how to get clicks. We need more clicks on the show. More clicks. Because, you know.

More clicks, please. Yeah. We're just, we're just sitting here trying to be like, you know, nuanced. Yeah. We talk about it on the Patreon. Sign up for our Patreon. Get an extra episode every week where we talk with nuance and make no money. I don't know.

So did he win the Grammy? You're not winning Grammy? I don't care. I don't know if not for Twitter. I don't know the Grammys are happening. Oh, I don't think he won a Grammy. I don't think this is the kind of thing you do when you're winning a Grammy. Really?

I think this is like, they're like letting him have a little, a little renaissance, a little mini-renaissance. But I don't think anyone respects this, really. So why is it allowed to happen then? Who's his uncle? Because you need something to happen at the Grammys to piss him. off the heartland. It's true. Why don't just shoot a person?

Either it's 60-year-old Madonna, like making out with an 18-year-old, or it's this. Would they get upset if someone did a performance in front of a, like, if they were executing a mentally handicapped person, like, which really happens? And then, like, in America, and, like, if they were doing that on stage with the music act, would they get upset about that?

Um, well, that, that you might actually appeal to the middle of America. Right. But. This Willie Nelson's thing. Well, he's liberal, I guess, right? That's what I guess his fan base back? I don't know.

I was listening to, I mentioned his on the Patreon episode, but I was listening to Christopher Hitchens on Charlie Rose, and he wouldn't stop talking about how Clinton excused a mentally handicapped guy. Oh, right. Yeah, you did do that. Because of the Jennifer Flyers incident, which was, you know, and he didn't bring this up, but it might not have happened yet, but it seemed to parallel, was it Operation Desert Fox?

Remember that? It was like right after Lewinsky's like testimony or whatever or the impeachment. Oh, that was the one where they blew up like a medical research facility, right? Maybe. I think that might be when they went after Bin Laden. But I'm not, but maybe right. I confused though. Like before 9-11, a lot of, there's a lot of bombings that was going on in the late 90s.

A lot of extra, extra war, like things that weren't part of a war, quote, unquote. But, you know, it was a weird time to. It is funny, though. like Christopher Hitchens was so principled in that way. Like he would, he would kind of, you know, bring up these things that the rest of the media

wasn't bringing up about Clinton. But then he just like cheerleaded the Iraq war. Wait, Hitchens did? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. People are complicated. Look at Sam Smith. Yeah.

Maybe that's what the message is here. What, from Iraq? Anyway, we have some other stories. This is, interesting one this is something uh this is an article i didn't really read uh it's been on my docket for a few days now uh it's the headline reads mafia hitman found working as as pizza chef in

france after 16 years on the run and i think he's just such a good looking guy oh this is really him that's him wow he's a charman i didn't realize mafia hitman was so you know like he looks like uh he looks like the someone like the guy he looks at the the The son from the newsroom. That's a bad reference. What? He looks like the actor. He looks like like Jane Fonda's son from the newsroom.

He looks like he could be an actor. So what's this story? Did you read this? He's got, look at it. He's making pizza. Oh, that looks like a good sauce he's making. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't seem to be.

It looks like it's enough for like one half of a pizza. Yeah. I don't know what's going on here. He reads this for us a little bit. That was enlarged this. A mafia hitman, who had been on the run for 16 years, was arrested Thursday in France, where he had been working as a pizza chef. Edgardo Greco.

Edgardo, wow. That sounds made up. Names are so. Edgaro Greco, 63, who authorities say has links to Italy's notorious Indraguete. Margarita? Nagarita? Nagarita. Not going to work in you.

or crime group something italian crime group and was convicted of killing two people in the early 90s wait was arrested by french police in the city of santatine i don't want to like devalue human life but do you really get the moniker of hitman when you kill two people i mean maybe it could i grew up with that film the professional right right the luke basan film with jean renaud and he's just he might has to kill 50 people in that movie I mean he's just you know he's drinking milk all the time and he's hanging out with Natalie Portman and he's just a professional it's called a professional right and this guy kills two people and then works as a pizza shop and he's a hit man it doesn't seem right anyway well I guess that's probably what

they could pin on him right I guess oh if I pin the medal on him Fugitive. He doesn't seem that dangerous as a fugitive. He's making pizzas. Yeah, the people die, like in France? But he's like, excusing people who didn't like the pizza? Greco has been sentenced to life in prison for the murders of brothers Stefano and Giuseppe Bertola Mayo in 1991.

Italian police said in a statement that the pair were beaten to death with metal bars. With a metal bar in a fish shop in collaboration. This is not, look. Look, that doesn't seem like a, that doesn't seem. It does seem like if you kill two people that way, you could have definitely killed more people. No, no, no, no, no. I disagree. Doesn't that sound like a hitman.

That sounds like a murderer. It sounds like a guy who murdered two guys of a metal bar and a fish shop. You know, what the fuck? That's not what a hitman is. I mean, I guess you look, a hitman, I imagine, with a silencer or a knife. And he's, like, sneaking in. And, like, you don't even know you're dead before you even hear anything. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Like, because a hitman, that's his. business yes exactly he wouldn't do it that in such a sloppy way now I know in the mafia sometimes they tell you to hit you know do a hit yeah but I don't think that makes you a hit man that's true you know that's a good point yeah even on the sopranos which is you know real life uh they sometimes would have guys coming who seemed like that was their thing right they're like fly guys in from Italy or whatever and they would be like that's what they did but then sometimes a fat guy would do it you know it was like you know it depends on

the situation. But I look, if you murder two guys with a metal bar, that's brutal. It's a brutal murder. I don't think it's a hit man. That's just, I mean, I just imagine, I mean, like him coming back to the mafia guy, I mean, like, so he took care of that problem we had. Yeah, I beat him the double a big metal bar. What?

Where? They were in a fish shop. Okay, so wait, you followed them home and you, and you kind of, where you kind of flagging down the side of the road? I did it in the fish shop where they were. I covered them up with the fish. They let it sleep in under some fishes tonight. What that means?

The phrase is sleeping with the fish. Wait, wait, did anyone see? I mean, there's people in the fish shop probably saw. I mean, unless they were just watching their iPod. Why did you do this at 3 p.m.? I don't think you can be a headband anymore. This is not your. My uncle wants me to be a pizza man in France.

Go do that. This is not for you. I mean, kudos. I'm killing them. You know what? The more information there is, the more your theory is supportive. The bodies were made to disappear and never found again,

police said. Greco is also. But how do they know we did in a fish shop then? He's just left their brains, like pieces of their brains go there? We couldn't find the bodies, but it was just a gallon of blood. Greco is also accused of attempted murder in a separate case. So he's not, okay, so now it's falling apart.

That does that help your hitman credentials? Yeah. I know this is a terrible thing to laugh at, but whatever. Italian news agency Ansa said Greco had been working as a pizza chef in the Italian restaurant, in an Italian restaurant in France under an assumed identity Italian police

released. He changed his name to Gresso. It's still a Greco. Italian police was the picture of Greco and a chef's white coat stirred and what appears to be a restaurant kitchen. I mean, it's a good point because if you look at it,

it's not the most, it does seem like it could just be like a, like his kitchen. He's got like chocolates. What is that in the back? Like a box of like a box of like, like weird that weird cake that you buy in Italy like that Christmas cake he's got like a little Tupperware thing of like tomato sauce I mean you're seeing to make pizza they take the sauce

have a giant pot yeah who's making like this much sauce and like what's he pouring into it like some kind of these aren't like things you buy in like a restaurant supply store look maybe that's his personal dipping sauce so I told you not to dip the nuggets in the sauce And your own sauce, use a tomato sauce. That is for me. I like to, what did you add? I add raisins to it.

That's disgusting, Gresso. Oh, my God. That's fun. Good luck to Grasso. Good luck. Good luck, Grasso. Oh, man. What else we got here?

So this, um, I draw, in the same sex traffic fraud. Question mark. There's a controversy right now. I think we follow each other on Twitter, this person. Eliza Blue. She followed me and she had like a bunch of followers. So like,

rude and I found her. It was like 300,000 followers. I guess I'll follow you. Also, it's like, I'm a sex trafficking victim. It's like, well, I don't be a dick. I mean, I don't like her post.

I think she. I got to find another article. But, um, but yeah, this woman, Eliza Blue, I was seeing her, like the reason it caught my eyes

because I remember seeing her on a bunch of shows at some point where she was saying, you know, she's talking about sex trafficking and it did seem to at some point kind of fit also like a right-wing narrative because the right tends to be pretty anti-sex work in general. And so I think just her, I think any sex trafficking victim coming forward, it tends to get used in a somewhat perverse way, like, you know, just to like kind of villainize all sex work. but like but but you know sure it's no one's talking about Lawrence King from like you know the

franklin scandal right yeah exactly like sang it the like the global international invention or whatever but I always kind of thought like okay like you know if the general media is going to ignore your story and these people will have you on to talk about it I get why you would go on those shows no sure like I mean that's fine but what happened she was on but now it uh now it seems like certain parts of her story aren't adding up and I don't know like some people who like knew her personally from the time that she said she was being trafficked have said that like this is this is basically saying like this is definitely not

true she was a lot of eye makeup is that wrong to point out I don't look I mean people what was the smoking gun because people seem very people's just flipped on her really quickly. Yeah, it does seem fast. Like, I mean, I'm not sure. What side is this? They literally won't write sex. They, like, anti-sex trafficking, but they put a little star where the E and sex is.

What website is this? I don't know. Yeah, I wanted to get the Daily Beast article. Just, that's K-pop. Well, this might not be reputable. But, like, yeah, like, I think it's kind of fast, too. Like, I'm not, I've tried to, like, kind of withhold judgment about it. I just don't know.

I don't like I don't apparently she did something with Alam Musk she was apparently she was like look I'll be honest of you I saw her tweets I remember I remember who is this person and it just seemed odd that's all I'll say I didn't I didn't I didn't like but she just seemed like but you know sometimes people who are sex trafficking victims aren't you know they act a little odds they look a little funny sometimes right yeah right exactly you know what am I going to say I Hey, why don't you more, why don't you exhibit more normative behavior after you were the, you know, kept in the Taken prison, you know, you're on that boat and taken. Right. Like, Liam Mason's daughter from Taken, I don't think she was like going on to be like, you know, a news anchor. Yeah, right. That's like the pinnical normative behavior, but, um, whatever. I don't care. I don't know.

But apparently she was like Musk, she was, she was telling Musk to, like, ban people and he was going to go, okay. Yeah, she was, like, praising Musk basically saying that, like, Twitter was overrun with child porn before he took over or something. Look, when she would say that, I'd be like, really? And I would go, like, I just, I must not look at those hashtags, which, of course I wouldn't. Yeah. But, like, apparently she had, like, there's secret hashtags that people would use.

I don't know. She got on top of it. I don't know. But now people are saying that, like, she was supposed to be married by it when this is happening. I'm not sure what that matters. We really are the worst news podcast in the world. Yeah, we really, always verify. in general, but particularly us.

Just double check what we're saying. People are married her and we don't know what's up. She has a lot of my makeup. What do you find here? Okay. So this is from the Daily Beast article. Okay. Blue, who refers to herself as a survivor of human trafficking,

has lent Elon Musk an unusual form of credibility by insisting that pre-Must Twitter was overrun. with child pornography. Only Musk, who says, was willing to stamp out the abusive material on Twitter at scale. In another tweet, she declared war against Elon Musk is actually a war over your mind. Musk responded with a bull's eye emoji.

This seems weird. I mean, look, yeah. I mean, look, here's the thing. They're both such objectively weirdos that, like, even there are, if this is true, they're just like, this is why you act a little, don't act like a weirdo. Don't dress up like a devil ham man. You know, like, because people aren't going to believe you when you stamp out child pornography.

Right. Amid the controversy over this, over suspended accounts, questions about Blue's background have emerged. Her critics have seized on contradictory videos and interviews and her frequent use of different names online to suggest Blue isn't who she claims to be. Now, two former friends of Blue tell the Daily Beast that at best Blue is exaggerating her experiences for attention. um look she was traffic but it wasn't that bad right i don't know i mean i mean maybe it's hard to tell literally everyone but us is a grifter right so it's hard to tell uh you know she probably is but like you know the people who were attacking are probably grifters it's like grift all the way down yeah we should become there was like a weird interview between her and katie herzog right where

Katie Herzog tried to like confirm certain details about her past and she blue got kind of defensive but like yeah yeah it definitely seems weird all around Katie Herzog seems a little weird too to be fair oh of course yeah but you know what you're gonna do it doesn't mean she's not right I again these are this is not like this is a problem there's a loss of credibility across the board that I mean even I mean whatever I don't know um Yeah, so I guess make of that what you will. Yeah, look, your people, think for yourself.

Go read the article, I don't know. Hey, here's what you should think about. Liza Blow. Oh, man. This was a story that is it fun? Because this is actually, you really wanted to talk about this. And you texted me about this. I mean, I'm just saying it's got a lot of wild choice.

I don't mean fun, like, but it seems, yeah, it seems like an interesting. You texted to me. I read a bit of it. I read the bald points. It's goddamn Daily Beast. Is the Daily Beast that good that they can just charge, like, bar none? I know, like, I don't know how news on the web works.

Why, when did everyone just stop letting you read things? I know the New York Times, but, like, New York Times is the New York Times. You can hate them. I don't love them, but they're the New York Times. The Daily Beast can just, like, paygate all their articles. Here we go. No, this is wrong.

okay so this is a story about a neo nazi and a woman so she's not a neo-nazzi and a woman and some woman this is like one of those movies like from the 80s like like midnight run neo-nazian woman a neo-nazzi and a minnesota mom it's diehard for neo-nazis neo-nazi and woman charged with conspiring to attack maryland power grid this is the right one right uh yes okay so why don't you take us through the story lucy um yeah so basically this uh neo nazi pair i think it's i think it's fair to say they probably both have the sympathies you would hope so i mean she's just really a swab she's like no i'm doing it for universal health care i'm doing it for love um but like so they were plotting to attack this power grid

in maryland um and they got turned in by the neo-Nazis roommate. Okay. Who had previously been arrested for murdering two of their other roommates. Okay, so it was a house of four guys. It was originally a house of four neo-Nazis. Now two. Now two.

But the guy's reason, the roommate's reason for, I guess, murdering the other two, but then also cooperating with the cops was that he had a change of heart at some point and became Muslim. The guys he killed Muslim? No, these are all white guys. All Nazis. Right, yeah, these are all Nazis

and then one of the Nazis becomes a Muslim. He really just skipped not being a Nazi, huh? Yeah, yeah. That just seems odd. I mean, it's like, I honestly, you can become a Muslim. I feel like Muslims would probably be like, all right. Well, you can do what we don't want. We can't, like, I don't think it's like Judaism.

when you can stop you, right? They don't have to make it. You know what I mean? Judaism will be like, well, we gotta fill you out for a while, right? Yeah, yeah.

I feel like Muslims are more willing to like have people convert. Yeah. But that being said, I still feel like they'd feel more comfortable. Like, all right, I'd should stop being a Nazi for like a month.

Yeah, just a few weeks. Yeah. It's a trial period. Yeah. We just all like the idea of Nazis just going straight to bustle. Right.

But whatever. So now he's a Muslim. So this guy, this roommate, converts to Islam, he becomes a Muslim, and then the neo-Nazi roommates start bullying him for being a Muslim. The neo-Nazi roommate.

Because he keeps living with the neo-Nazis. Oh, that's why he kills them. So he kills them for bullying. Oh, okay. So that's the four guys. Yeah. Now it's three Nazis and one Muslim. Yeah.

I guess the one who's the subject of this story was actually cool with him being a Muslim, even though he's a Nazi. That's, that is unstable. But less of a bully at least. I mean, he didn't get killed. Right. So, okay, so, but these two guys are real,

the real spearheads of this thing. Or maybe he was just out playing ping pong that night. Yeah. And he was, and he got fed up. And he's like, you know, I know we used to say this stuff all the time, but now it's not cool. Yeah. Because I'm a Muslim now.

We used to always do his about saying about Muslims. I mean, like, honestly, how do you go from being a Nazi? to being a Muslim and not moving out of the Nazi house. Right, yeah, no, that's the thing. How do you not move out of the Nazi house? We have a really nice deck. I don't want to lose the deck. It's got a great view.

I'm really close to work. It just seems like you can never really be unfair or a Nazi, but if you could, this would seem unfair to a Nazi. This is definitely a classic, like you knew who I was when you got with me, situation. If you can't accept me in my Nazi, you don't deserve me at my Yatsi. Look, before two people got shot and killed, this would have made for a great sitcom. This could have brought comedy back.

Do you remember like two guys, a girl in a pizza place? Yeah. Three Nazis and Muslims and a woman. We still don't know what the woman is. She can't just be a woman. Yeah, she just a woman. I would be willing to go back to sexism for this and just have her be a sexy woman.

Can we just, look, I mean, there's so much news nowadays. You can't read all of it. Can we just take the chance and just go pitch it as a show? I mean. So we got three Nazis. A Muslim who used to be a Nazi and a woman. Yeah. And they really don't like the, what was it, the power grid?

They hate the parents The Maryland Power Grid This is bad I feel like everyone's You could have a nerd You could have a nerdy Nazi We get the guy who played

Sheldon to play Nazi Yeah Sheldon could be a Nazi I think he's Jewish right We shouldn't do that I mean I don't know if he's good I don't know It's called acting

Well whatever We'll be very up front This character is not you know This character isn't politically correct. Anyway, so anyway, fast forward. What happens to the neo-Nazi and the woman? They conspired to the Maryland parent. What do they do?

So anyway, so their plan got thwarted because this bullied former neo-Nazi Muslim who killed his roommates also, I guess, felt slighted by him. so right so he cooperated with uh do you think it was more like do you do you think it was connected like he was like look hey like as you know i killed our roommates all right well i'm not coming back to the house yeah you should come you should come back no no no I'm gonna rat you out if yeah I mean you just man do you think I mean honestly again like I I look here's

How good a guy could this be if he was a neo-Nazi? Like, I was never a neo-Nazi. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I get that he's a Muslim now, but he wasn't a neo-Nazi. No, I think that people, there is a little bit of truth to the idea that once a person gets, like, once their brain is wired to extremism, that's what they're going to do in any kind of, any, any lens that you see the world through, it's going to be a pretty extreme. No, I'm just saying it's like, uh. Though I wonder how bad the bullying was also.

What's what I'm saying? I wonder, I wonder if, like, if they were actually bullying him because he was Muslim or is he just like, he not shower? Did he like, did he like, do he like, oh, did he steal their HBO password? That he like eat their food? I don't know. It's like, it's like, you know, this guy could have been doing anything. He could have been a bad roommate.

Yeah. Like, hey, asshole. Like, stop stealing our Chinese food. I'm just trying to imagine what's the dumbest way they could have, like, bullied him. like it's like in a way like hey Bob it's Rahim all right is Rahim did you still eat my lomane why are you asking me that because I'm Muslim well yeah I'm a Nazi I mean Toby over here don't eat Chinese he's I'm a little more moderate now I'll eat Lomaine but he won't touch it I know it wasn't him me

Anyway, it would be fun, though, also, if they were just kind of, like, pulling little pranks on them. Like anti-Muslim theme, but just, like, kind of like little pranks. Like a burning cross? Yeah, like, but maybe just, like, you know, uh, little pricks, like, a fric. Just maybe, like, wakes up and there's, like, a falafel under his pillow. Terrible. I'm just saying, like, it's like, you know, but, like, just kind of more, uh, not threatening so much. is just weird.

Yeah. Because they're Nazis. So, like, it's just the implication that you're like, well, this is just a tasty treat. Right. Well, no, but it's messy. It's on my pillow. Yeah.

But they, like, but I don't know. I don't know where you're going with this. I'm not saying I would do it. Well, you don't want to came up with it. So anyway, what happened with the man in the... Well, I'm in touch with my shadow. Okay. Is that psychology thing?

Yeah. The Freud? Youngian. Young Enoch types, nice. So this is, which one is this? This is the one who tried to go after the power grid. Where did they try to do? What was their plan?

Brandon Russell. They were going to just shoot it. Shoot the power grid. With like a handgun? I think they were going to use something a little more powerful, but basically it's just shooting. All of these plans to like take down power grids are just shooting at them basically. Really? Until they go.

Do you know that's to be true? Are you just making it up? No, really. Like there have been a few like, like, like white supremacist's plots like this to attack power grids they don't even like put their kind of gasoline next to it it seems to be mostly shooting at it that seems like a real bad plan ah man um okay I guess that's um we'll move on the last thing we have I don't know this is really that big a deal but we Google's got trying to a chat bot what's this what is

this now the chat bot race has begun so I thought chat gtb was Google GBT. It's not Google, I guess. It's not they got their own thing. Tell me, you don't want to found the article. Tell me. Well, they have a new chatbot that they're developing called Bard. Okay, but who was chat Gb?

You found it at the time. I never went on. Chat GBT BT is his own thing. It's his own thing? Yeah. I thought you found it through Google. Well, you can find it through Google, but it has his own website. I'm in the Google Labs or something.

I thought it was like, it was like, you know, Google Docs. Chatty. Okay. No. All right. Yeah, it's the own thing. So, why?

What is the point of all this? I don't know. Nobody's expected, well, ever since I've heard of this thing, every article written about it has been about how horrible it's going to be for the human race.

Right. And then also, like, people are investing a billion dollars into it to develop their own version of it. Look, I don't know how or why, but we don't have long.

So, you know, if you haven't tried, uh fa yet for instance try for yeah it's very good vitamin me soup people like it have a bond me sandwich you know

go out there because something's gonna kill us yeah i don't even know what this article is about google wants a chat gbt uh release an experimental chat bot called barred as it races to respond to chat you why as it wowed millions of people we tried this out it didn't work

it couldn't simulate me if you can't simulate me who are you going to simulate somebody should make one if we're going to go down this road there should be one for like smells and taste I would love a smell search engine

like what does this fart mean what's inside me please tell me what do I do to myself it doesn't smell right I'm just confused I don't feel right Um, Byrd, so named because it's a storyteller.

I hate to be the meeting when they name this. Bard. How about bar? Because it's like a storyteller. And who does it just say like, you know, Rachel Epitaphs? It's based on experimental technology called Lambda, short for language model for dialing applications. Google is one of many companies that have been developing. Cares.

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