Kump - 14 - Are You There God? I'm Itchy

Episode Date: April 14, 2019

Ray mounts a case against intelligent design, introduces a new biblical super hero, and questions the motives of both the people attacking Julian Assange and the people defending the black hole pictur...e.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Conjuring Last Rites On September 5th I come down here in your house Array! Array! Array! Array! Array!
Starting point is 00:00:23 The conjuring last rites Only in theater September 5th, Bridget R. Hello, welcome to the show. I am back from the closet and I share with Lucy. This time I've ended in the chair, though, so I don't feel cramped up. Really upgrading my life. here. I feel like I'm going to fucking
Starting point is 00:01:01 just like Katie Beers. Well, I don't want to minimize Katie Beers. That feels bad. But that was the story from our childhood, my childhood in Long Island, where a girl was kidnapped from an arcade. She wasn't actually here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:01:17 She didn't actually get to the arcade, but I was supposed to go with that arcade Spaceplex the same day. That I wasn't allowed to go because, oh, Katie Beers has been kidnapped, but it turns out her family friend or whatever, Jonas Posito would just take her into a little dungeon he made her behind his like house and, uh, you know, I guess he abused her back there. And, uh, but I wasn't allowed
Starting point is 00:01:42 to go, but they never actually went to Spaceplex. And I'm not sitting here whining, like, oh, blaming Katie beers for, or John Spizito even, because I couldn't go in the Gravitron. Because they had a crack and Gravitron inside. It was a good arcade. Um, sorry, didn't she get to go. Well, hopefully she got to go with someone. point probably brought back memory she probably wouldn't want to what am i saying i wouldn't be a good grief counselor i would be like you want to go that place that you were you were supposed to be taken too no no i don't want to go uh uh and i would just fart probably i wouldn't be good at like you know any kind of job that requires i have empathy i'm a really good feminist but i'm not like uh the
Starting point is 00:02:23 most like hey uh we're gonna make it all better i'm like well yeah walk it off i mean i wouldn't it or victim like walk it off but that's the vibe you get from me I guess I'm kind of a monster let's get to I mean we have some new Patreon patrons some uh art some patrons of the arts some patrons of the arts
Starting point is 00:02:41 want to bring them into the fold thank them Eric Frankel give it up for Eric Frankel Keith Veronese that's a good name an Italian name and Ryan LaRoc or LaRoc
Starting point is 00:02:55 which is like a French name so I'm going to all these fucking different types names is great on top of that we got Gary Barberra Jason Duberville Richard Hofstetter Michael Ricardo and Diane Cage you give it up for everyone all those people these are people keeping the lights on in this closet there actually is a light in the closet that would be creepy if it wasn't just sitting like you know getting fed like people had to put my shit through like a little crack in the door or something
Starting point is 00:03:25 because it reminds me like when Tyrion in a game of Thrones was coming back to They're very excited about Game of Thrones, but it's coming back. There's a part where, like, I don't want to say who does it, but like a character has to put his shit. He's in a box. He's a pretty shit through a hole in the box. And I feel like that. Like, I could deal with a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Like, you know, you cut pieces of me off. You could, you know, feed me to a fucking, uh, some kind of, you know, lion or whatever, uh, burn me at the steak. But I don't want to, like, touch my own shit. That seems excessive. That seems like, you know, my shirt. I like to get rid of it. I'm not a way of these guys who like gets up and looks at a shit.
Starting point is 00:04:03 A lot of those. I do sometimes and it's gross. I mean, I'm not a shit guy. I like the idea of, uh, I'm a piss guy maybe. We're not a pissed guy, but I'm okay with piss. I can accept piss. You know, it's a liquid. It falls right off.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But shit just gets everywhere. Like, if you start smearing shit into, into your hair, for instance, how would you even know it was clean? These are things I think about. I just can't. So having the shit, like, you know, could you, What do you wipe it? How do you know If you're in a box
Starting point is 00:04:32 You try to clean your ass You play out of just like a rash All the time You know Why is the anus so sensitive Why is shit so bad for the anus I guess it's supposed to get rid of it Because you can spread disease
Starting point is 00:04:46 But you think something that was used To pushing shit Out all the time Would be less sensitive to shit You know I can see if you get shit in your eye And then you know Oh your body reacts like
Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh this is something new. We don't want this. This is disgusting. But the job of Uranus is to facilitate the removal of shit, to push shit through it. But if you leave a little shit on the outside of it, which you're apt to do, I think, especially in the natural state of the world. I don't think people are, I think cavemen were like just, you know, cleaning their assholes as well as we do. My point is, the anus should be used to it. The anus should be used to the shit. The anus should be used to this shit it's that's his job his job is to push it through so like you don't see your finger getting oh why it's a fingernail my fucking finger or why is this why is this crab ragoon on my tongue you know
Starting point is 00:05:42 it's there it's not it's not great crab rang gore grue's kind of gross at the end of the day but your fucking tongue isn't going ah god i'm itchy now no but like i leave a little bit of shit of my anus and it fucking you might as well have put a fucking rat come disease into my asshole is one of the mysteries of the world if I could ask God anything I wouldn't ask
Starting point is 00:06:04 him anything about like why did you do it you know what's Jesus's birthday for real what's your favorite
Starting point is 00:06:12 color no I say why is my asshole which is designed to shit isn't like this was
Starting point is 00:06:18 intelligent design that's the idea right that God I've had everything work well why is my anus
Starting point is 00:06:22 which is designed to be a shit device that's designed to be you know the pump through which you I pump through rectum feces
Starting point is 00:06:33 it's just like oh you know itchy and God would just be like I I love killing people as well I mean God's a killer you know the guy would probably just start fucking spitting on himself just angry
Starting point is 00:06:46 guy's an angry guy he just fucking spits on himself all time and kill this guy this guy's gay this guy's you know fucking when he's not married if guys is real he's just a fucking real real jerk this guy's fucking real fucking someone in the ass. Let's doce. Let's send an angel and fucking smite him.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But it never does. Like, he's... That's the idea. God could do that. I could smite people who fucking the ass if really wanted to, but we insist on the fact that he sent some, like, that he left vague notes for us to do it. We're us to make them feel bad. Silly. It doesn't make any sense. The Catholic Church, apparently Pope Benedict, he came out, and he made some letter saying basically that you know uh we're gonna blame he wants to blame this child fucking gangster ring that he presided over for like you know a while uh how long he stay in fucking five years six years and he bounced that's a weird i mean it there's some sketching i mean i've heard
Starting point is 00:07:45 some angles that he was like trying to get these guys brought down more than john paul was and maybe more than franzas but then again he comes out with this shit where he's basically blaming this child rape factory that we call the Catholic Church on the sexual revolution. So apparently if people were fucking, you know, still fucking not having casual sex, then the priests, who weren't supposed to be having sex in the first place, would not fuck children. Like, I could see if you said the priests were like who were, you know, if they were having sex with women, like, or like men, like grown, which is a big thing in some book where apparently a lot of the priests Especially in Rome, aren't celibate.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But, you know, if you're blaming that on the sexual revolution. Yeah, maybe. They might have something to do with it. It could have a bearing on it. But it's a straight... I mean, it's something wrong with the guys you're recruiting as priests. If they go in like, hey, it's okay to have sex now. And then their first response is to start, you know, fucking kids.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That's no good. But that's what this Pope is about. I don't know. Why are we still accepting the Catholic Church as, like, like a legit organization. I mean, we fucking bring down churches for tax evasion in this country, or do we?
Starting point is 00:09:01 We do bring, we do bring their churches for claiming to be nonprofits and then, you know, doing some shady shit. You know, so why don't we do it with the fucking, this child rape
Starting point is 00:09:12 video game brought to life? You know, that's what this is. It's almost as if, like, they get points for fucking these kids. Like someone, like they're doing, are they doing some kind of
Starting point is 00:09:23 goddamn bingo game but like where the balls are actually like the kids ball I'm not trying to be you know make light of this but that seems to be the only possible except for the fact I guess there's dangerous rapist who were attracted to children that makes more sense
Starting point is 00:09:39 than the video game thing I guess I've debunked my own conspiracy I guess because yeah I mean but that's just why are they allowed to do it what I mean why are we why if you're such a good all there's a good priest out there a lot of people so why aren't they doing shit about this seems like all they want to do is cover it up or do apologetics for the goddamn church.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I don't understand. I don't understand people who are still, like, you know, repping the Catholic Church. I'm like, people are shitting on the current Pope because he's like making, he's like he's too good, nice to gay people or something. Or he's too, he's not traditional enough. And it's like, how are you, you're a bad person. You're a bad person if you think that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You're a bad person if you're focused on anything the Catholic Church does, anything the Catholic Church does and you're not talking about them fucking kids because what they do you're just not like you can't complain that like you don't like the flavor of incense that's wafting to your nose
Starting point is 00:10:36 on Holy Thursday but while there's a kid who has come as priest coming his ass and that smell is also a wafting but you're ignoring that smell and that sounds crude it's less crude and a kid being fucked you're getting a priority
Starting point is 00:10:52 straight you can't worry about the vestments or it's a priest you know things gay marriage is fine he no no one no one's sitting there going these guys are great and you should all be gay no one's doing that at the very least they go maybe we shouldn't be so shitty to people maybe we should as jesus said you know if you those about sin cast a first stone yeah what's weird about that story is that you know these guys are very arrogant you know like i'm not saying like you know there'd be a bunch of guys they're going I'm fucking great prove I do anything people are narcissistic
Starting point is 00:11:29 people are fucking self-indulgent you've been at least one guy trying to throw a stone at that hooker and Jesus would have to be like yeah whoa whoa whoa Gary what are you doing Gary and he's like oh you know I just I live a pretty clean life and he's like I see you know
Starting point is 00:11:46 jerking off onto the bread before everyone eats it every every Sunday, Sunday dinner. Oh, you know about that? Like, yeah, I'm fucking the son of God. I see you jerking off on the bread. And Gary's like, all right, fair enough. But otherwise, but if you didn't call him out,
Starting point is 00:12:01 like Gary thinks he got away with that. Gary thinks no one saw him jerking off on their weird. Not weird, but whatever, flat bread they have there. It's not weird. It's different bread. I shouldn't be judging the ancient culture. He didn't have to use his unleavened bread. But Gary was shit, you know, was coming on it.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He was spreading his come onto it, just because he got off on. Gary's a weird guy, and Gary's also a judgmental guy, and he wants to cave in some hooker's head with a rock, and he thinks no one knew about it, but Jesus knew, because he's a superhero. That could be, maybe, why don't we do, this is the era of superhero films, why don't we make a superhero Jesus film? Maybe I'll start a Kickstarter. If I can get $300,000 raised on a Kickstarter, which is unlikely, based on my performance of fundraising, but we can do it. We can make a superhero Jesus film, where Jesus basically calls out people. It's like, he'll carry a rock and go, hey, and he'll hooker. He'll carry a rock and a hooker.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker. You don't want to confuse it hooker. That's a pot smoking device. He'll carry his hooker around with him, and he'll fucking, a rock, and you want to cage his hooker's head in, and someone will go, yeah, and he goes, oh, as long as you don't sin. And then he'll just, like, tell you what you send is. So it's kind of a limited film. He could also turn different things into wine.
Starting point is 00:13:25 He could turn, like, rocks into wine, children into wine. Not water. Because he really did the water, and it's just not going to be that impressive. Because people are just going to think he's coloring the water, or something of something. You need something like, oh, he turned this, you know, little person into wine. We turned my iPhone 6 into wine. This is great.
Starting point is 00:13:46 This guy's got the move. this guy's like the flash dance man we love him so superhero movie you know maybe he gets a cape he's already just walking around with sandals and shit me why not they give him a cape want to give him a fucking like a like a straw cape keep it low key maybe he's fucking you know maybe danny fights the devil and so kind of weird you know because yes what he needs superhero movies they need the big fight punching scenes him the devil just like grappling and just fucking biting each other I think Jesus should be a biter Why wouldn't Jesus be a bite?
Starting point is 00:14:20 I mean, you have this guy You know his heart is pure So why Like it's the problem with like movies You can't let the Protagonists do things That are like too aggressive And too
Starting point is 00:14:30 Whatever Because you know People have to be on their side But he's Jesus You're gonna stay on the side So why don't we use that to our advantage Maybe he's more vicious More brutal
Starting point is 00:14:40 Maybe he like Carries an oven around And like throws people Well no that's That's that's That's probably offensive. The oven thing. Maybe he carries around, you know, with a bonfire and, like, just burns people.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like, if you burn people at a stake, usually the bad guy in the movie. But Jesus could do that and be the good guy. Jesus could be the fucking, like, he can get away with a lot of shit. And people do, well, it's Jesus. I mean, that being said, I guess, you know, people were burned out of the stake in the name of Jesus. so in some way or another what am I on about oh you're superhero Jesus plus yeah
Starting point is 00:15:24 Mary Magdalene she'll be like the lowest lane people with the fucking Mary Magdalene I don't know I mean the whole less temptation of Christ or whatever is based on him getting off the cross and then you know fucking St. Paul comes up to him later and like I made this all up you know he doesn't matter and you know he's fucking Mary Magdalene
Starting point is 00:15:42 having kids it's just great I mean people who talk to get issue Stop saying Jesus Fucked Marymount Fine He had You know He had kids with her
Starting point is 00:15:49 Magically You know I don't understand It's a big week Julian Assange Was arrested In London Because the Ecuadorian
Starting point is 00:16:06 Embassy kicked them out Because in Ecuador That guy's trying to get away with some shit The hood guy runs Ecuador You know I mean He was probably No one who runs anything
Starting point is 00:16:15 he's a good guy and this guy who's i think had some corruption scandals i'm not sure about what probably jerking off onto the bread just like our friend gary not our friend patron gary just to be clear gary barbara's a good guy but uh you know this this guy i made up before and um yeah so but yeah so you know the equatorian embassy uh kicked him out because they wanted to take the heat. They wanted to take the heat off of their
Starting point is 00:16:53 problems in Ecuador, which is understandable, I guess. You know, why they live in the first place? I'm not sure what Ecuador got out of this. I guess Ecuador just likes the movie hackers. Probably the guy runs it, probably. Or like War Games even, which is an underrated
Starting point is 00:17:09 movie about hacking. Or maybe just wanted to take a dig in the United States. I guess, you know, it's possible the Ecuadorian guy was just like, you know, fuck you America. This guy is releasing shit, embarrasses you, I'm on board. I wanted to, is it a big fuck you to America, which is probably not a good idea practically, but I'm, you know, I'm for it. You know, we probably would go after him for that. It probably tried to go shape. Maybe he was trying to get some missiles or something.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He does something if you got to think about when this stuff happens. Maybe he's trying to go shape America. Like, hey, we got this guy. I'll eject them if you fucking give me, you know, some of these fucking anti-cruise cruise missiles or anti-president drones. A few dozen Big Macs, you know, throws in the street in the deal. And I was surprised if that's the case, I was surprised America didn't kind of go along with it. Maybe he was asking for too much. Maybe too many Big Macs.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And be like, well, this is unreasonable. You know, fuck you. But whatever, at the end of the day, he's getting kicked out. after, I think, six years, seven years, nine years, maybe, I don't know, no, 2012, the seven years. And it's a weird, sketchy thing. I mean, I hear some people, some people are just morons. I mean, there's no one way around it. Like, in this case, people on the left are just fucking idiots, imbeciles, children, who are just going, oh, great, I hope they lock them away for the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And, like, if you were really that against espionage or whatever they're charging, we're not hacking. uh or leaking you know that'd be one thing be still be kind of weird but it'd be like all right i guess dude but you know people still mad at this guy because of the fucking the election the 2018 elect was the 20 2016 the 2016 election so mad at him for uh you know the tank with 2016 election because he had an involvement. I mean, I'm not sure how much he was knowingly involved.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Basically, these hackers hacked into the DNC and got these documents, which were legitimate documents, by the way, that made the DNC look bad. I mean, part of it was, a big part of it was Hillary, basically, in her team where DNC on Hillary's behalf
Starting point is 00:19:34 kind of relegating Bernie Sanders to be a second-class candidate. You know, basically, who knows if people would have won or not one. These things don't mean that like Bernie would have won. It's all people often cheat when they're ahead. That's just like a reality. So like
Starting point is 00:19:52 you have to get away from the idea like this person absolutely caused, you still hold them accountable, but this person absolutely caused it. The kind of people who win or the kind of people who cheat often. So you know, you do it as an insurance policy or you do it just to make sure, you know, no one's, no one's like weighing the scales and going like, oh, let's see, how far behind. Maybe you'll cheat. No, you cheat either way, and then, you know, you know, worried about, like, is it fair or not?
Starting point is 00:20:19 That ship sailed. So, but, you know, these documents, you know, these real documents got released, not released, well, you're given to WikiLeaks. And then WikiLeaks released them. And they made Hillary look bad. It's not really the reason she looked. Well, I guess, I mean, they have something to do with the, why they re-indicted it. I mean, it's really the FBI's fault for, like, opening up the case. again about this
Starting point is 00:20:44 based on the evidence from I think it had more to do for what they found on what is the name's laptop Wiener's laptop right which I'm not sure how they didn't do with WikiLeaks so we're blaming the sound I don't even know if it sounds really I mean it's wrapped up in there it's wrapped up
Starting point is 00:20:59 in this whole collusion scandal and you know was Wickely least complicit at the very least unknowingly sure but you know like if you know anything about how Wikileaks works and maybe it's fault
Starting point is 00:21:13 maybe and this is I'm getting it wrong but you know it's supposed to work where like the idea of it is that they don't know who's sending them this shit. They're like basically a document dump for if you want to leak shit and like you know not even wikileaks I'm sure Assange could know if he's any halfway decent hacker
Starting point is 00:21:29 and whatever but I'm saying that the idea is to be the anonymous system so you know he doesn't have to even like have he responsible for who's giving them stuff and but people are still like blaming him for Trump and look you get you it's just childish it's just fucking
Starting point is 00:21:47 you know I even think about the facts you're just knee-jerk angry I mean reality is Hillary was a terrible person a terrible candidate was she better than Trump sure but you know these documents reflected real shit um they got hacked on behalf of the Russians
Starting point is 00:22:02 but you also like these people your children in the sense of the way you're reacting to the idea that there was an election meddling I mean you in this country America has done more of that than anyone combined, and we're going to start, like, well, of course, we should
Starting point is 00:22:18 have measures to stop it, and we shouldn't accept it. We're not, you know, we're not punks. But, you know, at the end of the day, the level of indignity, our democracy has been counted. Fuck you. I mean, how many fucking elections have we overthrown if we don't get the results we like? And that's not even
Starting point is 00:22:36 count. We're counting in coups, and we're counting fucking, you know, overthrowes and fucking military in, like, CIA operations? How many did we just fucking sway the election effectively and not need to overthrow the government? Countless countless goddamn things. I mean
Starting point is 00:22:52 there was some coup in Sudan this you know leader who was fundamentally unpopular in the West for being authoritarian or whatever which is laughable because we love
Starting point is 00:23:08 authoritarianism in the West as long as not in our country But that's the kind of guy we tend to like. We probably piss someone off and fuck some investment up. And, yeah, so now he's been overthrown by the military in a coup. And, yeah, no one's saying is a CIA AOP, but no one ever would. That's what you... I mean, everything looks like a coup from the outside.
Starting point is 00:23:33 But, you know, look, they could be a coup independent of us. It could be a coup with someone else giving the military assurances. But, you know, the military often wants assurances. I mean, the way you do a coup is where you overthrow fucking, you know, where you over through most dig. You create violence in the streets. I think the violence in this case, I heard, was done by the some kind of labor, basically union, labor union that was agitating in the streets,
Starting point is 00:24:03 which is perfectly plausible to be authentic, but also something that could be just co-opted, much like, you know, agitation in the streets was done in Iran with the fucking circus strongmen and other people. These, you know, people in the circus. But you create unrest, and then you get some generals, you buy some generals off,
Starting point is 00:24:22 or you give them assurances they'll be in charge, and then they fucking take power. And that's how it works. So was the Sudan military coup? I can't know for sure, but I mean, yeah, I tend to assume it probably was. I'm listening. What effect do I have on them?
Starting point is 00:24:37 I'm not some guy who's, like, doing business, in Sudan, I got to stop doing business. You know, if you are, you don't necessarily take these steps, but like, you know, you should be in general skeptical of the news and the world and go, look, I don't have to make a decision so I can comfortably sit and go, this is probably a coup. Are we going to, like, bet the house on it? I don't know, but, you know, this is, always assume that everything's a lie, that people are, you know, nothing's happening by accident.
Starting point is 00:25:06 There's some force behind most things. Some things are sporadic, but usually is a force, an economic force behind an action. Maybe the Sudan, they weren't paying their bonds, and their bondholders' fucking finance the coup. I mean, I think that's maybe more like they went to a government, on behalf of the government, the government trumped up some charges, and then they did a coup. Who knows? But, I mean, a lot of times there are situations where, like, you know, financial interest dictate, what happens militarily.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I mean, on a very simple level, Guayamaala. You know, when the Arben's government, I believe, in Guatemala came to power. And then, I was like, wasn't even socialists, it probably was. They wanted to nationalize the banana field, so I guess it's somewhat socialist. Regardless, it wasn't really the socialism per se. It's more like, A, United Fruit, this foreign country, who really shouldn't probably have a foothold in Guamala industrially but you know
Starting point is 00:26:11 industrial agriculturally but they did and Guamala's like hey you're probably you're kind of fucking us over maybe you get out and they're like oh and like we're going to get to nationalize these banana fields and uh without farms or whatever they are I guess trees right so banana orchards
Starting point is 00:26:28 who knows but uh so the head of United Fruit went to the fucking was it before the CIA even existed nothing serious there they went to probably Eisenhower and it was like hey can you do something about this
Starting point is 00:26:42 and we fucking overthrew the Arben's government that's what we do I mean there's probably some you know a few steps in between there but that's the broad strokes of it so you know financial elements definitely dictate a lot more than people on so
Starting point is 00:26:55 it's a Sudanic a CIA op or a different intelligence agencies are probably why you know at the very least you know these generals want to know Hey, we do this It might be their idea
Starting point is 00:27:09 But they still want to know Hey, if we do this Are you going to fuck with us? You're going to come in? You're going to give a shit Because I don't know When's the last time
Starting point is 00:27:18 We stepped in with a coup? I feel like we do this sometimes So they probably want assurances Uh So yeah I don't know So with Sange I mean the idea that you'd be
Starting point is 00:27:29 Is he a hero? Look, here's the thing If he didn't rape those people in Sweden and he's probably a decent guy no one who does anything like this is a great guy it's ambitious and he's probably narcissistic and he's I'm sure he's a fucking, especially after spending
Starting point is 00:27:46 these years in the embassy, he's probably just this very like put on a megalomaniol kind of fucking just a self-absorbed cunt, you know, as far as a personal interaction, he's probably not the best guy and I could be wrong about that
Starting point is 00:28:02 but these people, look, no one accomplishes a big thing without being kind of a big scumbach narcissist in a lot of ways. I mean, that's why when you meet someone, they are down to Earth, it's like, oh, these guys down to Earth. That wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't the case that most people who achieve anything aren't down to Earth. The fact that someone is, it's like, oh, my God, it's a unicorn.
Starting point is 00:28:22 This guy is a person, even though he's accomplished something. And that's just not usually what happens. So, you know, Assad is probably not the best guy, but at the end of the day, I mean, it has a thing. So he dumps these documents. I think the first big one was Chelsea Manning, I think. I could be, you know, I don't know the whole history of WikiLeaks. But there was a big thing back in, I think 2010, it was called, I mean, it was nicknamed, at least, collateral murder.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Or maybe it was the name of the video. They named a video collateral murder when it got leaked. And it was Chelsea Manning had, you know, at the time, I guess, was Bradley Manning. And gotten, I don't know, I don't know, I'm going on military. Army computer person, I think. I'm not sure exactly what,
Starting point is 00:29:11 like, their job was. I remember watching some little mini doc. I think they were just kind of a tech person. And they got some, they got some, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:17 this footage and some other stuff. And this footage was basically a convoy of people getting attacked who ends up being civilians.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And look, it's the kind of thing where it's not the fact that people get killed, civilians get killed. I mean, it is a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But people go, some people argue that you're equating war crimes with like you know collateral damage but like if you don't take any reasonable steps not to kill civilians and a war that takes place in the streets of a you know it's not some
Starting point is 00:29:48 this is not Napoleonic days when you're setting up in a field and you're firing muskits of each other or you know the middle evil you know some nights or fucking battling it back in the medieval ages medieval times people didn't care that much about the country and who won the war
Starting point is 00:30:04 who won the battle the peasants it'll just get shifted over because they're not getting killed they're not getting murdered either way because there's knights dying on either side soldiers dying on either side
Starting point is 00:30:16 but they're not like fighting in the streets of the town but you know that's what we do now we have total war and you know and civilians getting killed and we're acting like oh it's just collateral damage
Starting point is 00:30:27 and it's like no we didn't do it we have to take reasonable steps especially a war didn't have to happen A war that was waged in the silly, just kind of post-truth world we live in, just this fucking, you know, we all kind of, I feel like we all kind of knew. It was bullshit. I mean, it was bullshit. It was at least knew it was suspect.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I mean, he's sitting there going, I mean, we're sitting there going like, ah, this doesn't seem right, but, I mean, they wouldn't go this hard if there weren't weapons weren't there. They have to know, I guess, because why else would they be going this fucking... I mean, they're going to look like fucking idiots if these weapons aren't there. It's going to happen. They're going to have a couple months to look for their weapons, and they must have... That was where I was sitting. They must have it, I guess. It was still...
Starting point is 00:31:14 And then, like, you know, after a few months, keep going, where are these weapons? And then eventually, I'm like, they better fucking plant these weapons. They better plant some weapons. And no one even bothered to plant weapons. That's the thing. No one even bothered to be, like... I mean, they argue some shit about how, like, he had the capacity to get to get this, you know, these WMDs back and going. But they don't even really show that.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They show a few. Did they even find the trailers? It was a big bus. We all know. We all know the Iraq War was a big fraud. I don't got to make that case. I mean, given that, we know it's a fraud. And, like, and, like, so you're killing civilians willy-nilly.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I mean, this is the kind of shit he released. This is what WikiLeaks released. It's not, you know, that's, do we need to know, like, that specific instance? Probably, I mean, I kind of was, when I heard about this, I'm like, all right, well, it doesn't seem like that big a deal, because I don't assume we were doing this anyway. But I'm the more, I'm a more cynical guy. I'm assuming we're killing civilians on purpose. So, I'm not the guy to ask, but, you know, there is a lot of times when you need proof in this world. People want proof to need it.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So, Julian Salon provided that. And, and Chelsea Manning, too. And she's a hero. I consider her a hero. People call her a traitor. I call her a hero. She's in, you know, jail for how many years, six or seven years, I think? A bunch.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And for a couple of years, they wouldn't even let. Because she was going through her transition, transition to a woman or proper terminology. Whatever. You know I love her. I love Chelsea Manning. But, you know, they would keep... They were forced them to be naked in isolation.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's just a... This is Obama, who was like the most humane president you would think, you would think, at least. I mean, he did do a lot of Predator General Strikes and fucking... You know, he was blowing up Pakistani weddings. He's doing this to whistleblowers. Look, he's not a great guy. I mean, he definitely...
Starting point is 00:33:16 Look, he's... Great speaker. I think fundamentally, if I had to guess, I'd say he had a decent... You know, people who were like that were real scumbags don't have the level of... course that he would have on subjects, which is, you know, I think he's kind of fundamentally decent heart compared to most people in power.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And that all the fact that this stuff still happened under him, it's just in a showcase of how there really isn't much, you know, it's a systemic day. And even the people with the best intentions, people with the best intentions don't get in there. People with decent intentions, reasonably better intentions get in there perhaps. the people with the best intentions don't even get close to the White House. That's the sad thing. You know, Obama had probably reasonably better intentions and a lot of the other people.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And, look, I think he did a decent job as far as, like, actualizing those intentions. I mean, I'm not saying he was a great president. But, I mean, the point is he's an okay guy. We're not going to get here and negotiate Obama's presidency. But I'm not saying he was a great president. Most of these guys are pieces of shit. I mean, if I can Bush's father was, you know, you know, You know, probably had to help kill Kennedy, and he did a lot of terrible stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I mean, Bush fucking launched a war based on this bullshit evidence. So, yeah, Obama's better than that. If you can't see that, you're kind of crazy. That's why even with Trump, Trump's terrible. He's just a maniac. But, you know, you still have to go, well, he didn't invade a country and kill hundreds of thousands, if not close to a million people in the process. So it's like, you know, even though he's pushing the limits of democracy and the republic,
Starting point is 00:34:53 and, you know, he's dangerous, in my opinion. You know, is he worse than Bush? It's hard to say he's worse, you know, this time will tell, but, you know, if you're an immigrant, he's definitely worse. If you're, you know, South American immigrant or Mexican immigrant, whatever, Central American, I'm sure you hate them more than you hate, because Bush wasn't that hard on these people, I don't believe. So I guess, you know, pick your poison. but Bush killed a ton of people
Starting point is 00:35:24 And we can't forget that Even though he's a painter now He paints himself in the shower And that's sexy And it turns me on I like seeing him You know make these paintings about himself Just getting naked and wet
Starting point is 00:35:35 You know That doesn't absolve you From launching wars Based on false evidence It just doesn't I wish it did I like to paint myself I'd like to think that
Starting point is 00:35:45 I can atone from my sins Through paint You know but I can't I can't do it It's just not appropriate Speaking of Because Yeah so oh no
Starting point is 00:35:56 Assange The thing you gotta remember Is that these charges come up after that Or at some point after that That he raped some girl in Sweden And he had a warranted out in Sweden And it seems at the time Very much like this is just
Starting point is 00:36:13 Bullshit Like the timing is just so It really is I mean the timing couldn't be more laughable but that being said it doesn't mean it didn't happen uh and if the me too movement has taught us anything because well you know they didn't they didn't enforce it until until uh they had a reason to yeah but you know there's no there's no uh it's no surprise anymore you know women uh when they report something it doesn't get you know enforced or you know the police don't necessarily act on it
Starting point is 00:36:43 it's uh not usually a priority for police i'm sure i mean you would hope it's better in sweden is it Sweden? If it's not Sweden, I apologize, but I think it's Sweden. But, you know, women, sexual assault doesn't get active on a lot by the plea. It's a hard thing to improve, I guess, but they could do a lot more. But either way, this was charged looming over his head. That's why he went to the embassy in the first place, I believe. And so it's not clear he didn't do it. He didn't rape this woman.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And so if that's the reason you were like, I hope he spends his, you know, the rest of his life in jail. Sure. That's a reasonable statement to make if you believe he did it. I don't think it's why. I think it's because of the whole Trump thing and you people are children if you're saying that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 It's a complicated figure. I mean, but, you know, someone should be leaking this shit. I mean, the diplomatic cables are also a big thing with WikiLeaks. And, you know, it fucked up foreign policy to a certain extent because it showed how scummy we were being
Starting point is 00:37:44 behind people's backs and embarrassed people. And it really shows you, you know, at the end of the day, you embarrass these people in power, and they'll go after you. There's no, there is no fucking code, no ethics, no, like, great, you know, some guiding principle for these people. They're just scummy, power-hungry people, and you made them look dumb. Oh, and he affected, just diplomatically, fuck you, he'd fucking probably affected, you know, some fucking bridge you wanted to build, just to get some grease money, get greased. I don't know. But, yeah, look, these people, again, like, you don't necessarily need to know that these
Starting point is 00:38:26 people, you know, to see the cable to know they're being a scumbags, but some people do. People in this country need to have, like, a smoking gun a lot of the times. And I don't necessarily get it, but, you know, it helps. You know, we didn't, you knew the NSA was looking at people and spying on people, but people didn't really take notice until, you know, the New York Times, did an article, uncovering, you know, with evidence. So you need the evidence. and I tend to assume
Starting point is 00:38:50 without knowing the full facts and maybe that makes me a little more conspiratorial I guess it's just me assuming based on it's an informed guess but whatever
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm the asshole sure but you people need evidence which brings also this black hole thing which came out this week which again it's an impressive thing
Starting point is 00:39:08 they have a photograph now of a black hole the event's horizon of a black hole which we know a black hole is it's just basically a collapsed star I believe and it's
Starting point is 00:39:21 because of the nature of how it collapses it starts you know it becomes so dense I think it's a neutron star that collapses and because the neutron star is so dense to begin with that it's so dense that the gravitational pull it exerts
Starting point is 00:39:37 absorbs is so strong that not even light like photons can escape from its pull which is you know I'm pretty sure Einstein you know showed and demonstrated where these things come from you know almost a century ago
Starting point is 00:39:53 and Stephen Hawkin you know did a lot with it too and maybe honest I didn't do anything with it but Hawking definitely did I'm pretty sure Einstein talked about it point is we knew what black holes were we've had situations where we kind of I remember I'm not some fucking astronomy buff
Starting point is 00:40:09 I used to sell telescopes but that's about the extent of it and people come in with their dumb kids you know I want him to look or fucking cool stuff like the Hubble telescope and I say hey this is for looking at the moon or some topless neighbor but you know you can't fucking even these ones you spend five grand on you're not getting anything compared to the Hubble just go buy in a book I've had some nice books over the years of astronomy books that I lost in my in the storage unit that I didn't pay for
Starting point is 00:40:34 but whatever that's a separate issue but uh just go look at the Hubble pictures why you know you just stand out there in a field and stare at some fucking in the sky if you really some guy who appreciates math and tracking shit go ahead but that's what this shit is and that's kind of my point i'm getting that is that you know we knew we knew based on like you know seeing other stuff happen based on like uh like the gravity like well this the track of tracking this star this comet or asteroid oh the pole we we we don't you can't see a black hole usually but you know you know because it's this you've seen a gravity there that's what it must be but uh and people
Starting point is 00:41:12 and i think scientists were generally fine with that but they finally someone finally got a way take a picture of it i might even sure how it works i should probably watch one of these tutorials but like you know but the point is twitter blows up and people are freaking out this is great and people at work are showing to me and it's like this is great look now we finally have proof like why do you need proof well you had basically proof you knew it was there people just need the picture and we got this conversation and then they start going well everyone's got their different perspective and i'm like whoa what what what are you saying to me and like they're like you know not i because like i'm like we basically
Starting point is 00:41:46 know and like well no reality is subjective like you know I have different I bring different things to the table and like you know this person at work sort of telling me about how they were Polish and they they have different you know experiences and therefore they view reality differently
Starting point is 00:42:03 like yeah that's the point of science though I'm trying to tell these people they're not getting it something happens in these young people but they're otherwise like I guess intelligent people I mean frankly they seem like morons I mean honestly most of people I see who have jobs that aren't like menial jobs
Starting point is 00:42:19 are no more than people who do have menial jobs. We should just swap jobs because it's just like these people just don't understand the role of science. Like people view science as like, oh, a flower has this many petals or, you know, look at the snail and how it moves. Like, those are facts that science helped you discover.
Starting point is 00:42:38 But science is the method. It's a scientific method. And they go, oh, but people have different, you know, views and I bring different things to the table. Yeah, I mean, that's the whole... It's what I try to account for. People are two basis of subjective... The people who shit on Trump, I've noticed,
Starting point is 00:42:56 are just as into this subjective reality, whore shit. At the end of the day, you know, because... People who talk about this fucking... What do you call it? This multiverse shit. Because somehow this proves the multiverse on some level, I think. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But, like, the point is like, Well, why do you even believe in the multiverse in the first place? And you go, well, no, whatever, we're not going to get a multiverse. They were talking about the fucking, uh, the idea we're living in a computer simulation. And I was like, well, there's nothing to indicate that we are. Well, doesn't indicate that we are. That's the response I get. And it's like, yeah, there's a reason the scientific method starts with observation.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So you usually only remember this. It's observation and hypothesis, I think, and then you test it and the thesis and a theory. It's probably missing one. but the point is the opposite. What do you observe? Yeah, maybe we're... Why don't you just come up to another? Maybe we live on the tip of a rhino's dick.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Who cares? We can't prove it to just prove it. There's no way to know it. Get on of your life. You know, how do you know reality's real? These things are happening in this conversation about the stupid star thing. It's like, how do you know reality's even real?
Starting point is 00:44:05 These are questions for a five-year-old to ask God. These don't have questions for an adult to talk about in the realm of science. You know, you start with what you can see. You know, stop acting, like, and there's no time for these questions. You know, cancer still hasn't been cured. You know, I haven't figured out why my asshole it is when I shit. You know, there's still things to figure out that are more important than, like, do we live in a rhino's dick?
Starting point is 00:44:28 If we live in a rhino's dick, I'd just be swimming in a rhino come. That's the answer. So, I don't know. I mean, am I mad at this picture? I'm mad at the fact that people need this picture to know black holes exist. I mean, why can't you just accept mathematics? you know people people because you know
Starting point is 00:44:45 this is like you know clearly shows the event horizon and overlaps the test picture it's a game you kind of Photoshop that doesn't mean anything to me I think this day and age a picture should be the last proof you have
Starting point is 00:44:58 you know I can focus on a picture of me with the Theresa May and we're both fucking jerking each other off doesn't mean it's real it would just be me violating the privacy of Theresa May doesn't mean that you know Theresa May is a sex criminal or sex deviant no but would you take that evidence no you shouldn't there's a lot photoshops out there you you photoshop the gilmore girls uh porn you know they did it was
Starting point is 00:45:23 porn but you can find porn of them or whatever the hell you want to watch you know if them adults i got photoshop myself you know with the fucking pope benedict and we're both just fucking slap and high-fiving each other and you know that's not real you know i'm not friends of pope Benedict That guy's a fucking pedophile Apologist I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:45:45 fucking give him a high five but if you saw a picture you assume I was so the point is you know pictures should be your last form of evidence I don't trust them
Starting point is 00:45:52 but as the state of the world we're living people just want Instagram shit and want to share shit online they're fucking animals
Starting point is 00:46:00 fucking children I don't this is sick of it I'm sick of all these fucking kids just trying to live with a spoke line
Starting point is 00:46:11 life, just trying to act like the internet's more than it is. World doomed. But you guys are great. You guys are doing great. And I want to thank you again for listening. Yeah, again, my patrons. Let's give them a shout out. Diane Cage, Michael Ricardo, Richard Hofsteader, Jason Duberville,
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