Kump - 144 - Disney Kids

Episode Date: April 1, 2023

Ray and Lucie discuss Trump's indictment, Disney vs DeSantis, baseball pitch clocks, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitc...h https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Play on Kump, we have Trump indicted, Disney versus DeSantis, and killer chatbots. Stay tuned. Hello, and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. How are you? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Are you excited for the boys of summer as they were? The boys of summer? You don't know what that means? I know it's a Don Henley song. What is it about? It's about the boys of all. It's about all the boys of summer that the woman he loves has been having sex with. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:50 This is a family show. Baseball. Baseball are the boys of summer. Do you know about that? Oh, really? Yes. Wait, so is Don Henley saying that she had sex with the whole baseball team? Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:03 How does that sound? I mean, is that the one where he's like, got the, got the Cadillac going down the highway? Yeah. Something like that. Those days are gone forever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Is that even about his wife leaving him? It's just about him singing from the perspective of a guy who's like waiting on it. Basically, he's kind of a simp in the song. Like he's waiting on a girl to finish. all of her um i confuse this song with the i got my first real six string but i thought you were saying sex dream whatever that song is uh no i'm referring to baseball i don't they call the baseball boys the boys of summer they do yes because they play in the summer how have you gotten all your life not knowing this you're a baseball fan sort of i do like baseball i've never heard it called the boys
Starting point is 00:01:56 of summer they're the boys of summer are back you'll hear that on promos kind of condescending i think they're men they're the boys they're playing a game they're playing a game with sticks and them and little mitts they have mittens and they're catching little balls we were looking at a big boy earlier well look we'll get to that in the second and then not don't talk about our affairs uh baseball is back and they have a new pitch clock have you seen this i've been watching met's games they have Oh, they're timing it now. They're timing the pitches. So these, I'm really happy that these, because I'm an occasional baseball watcher.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I watched all the games so far this year, which is two of the Mets. And these pitch clocks are pretty cool. Not because the games took too long. It's still like three hours almost or two and a half hours. I don't care about that. It's just taking the piss out of these pitchers. I think pitchers are pretentious. I think that you should have one pitcher per team.
Starting point is 00:02:54 and you like their career should be three years long they blow their shoulders out immediately you know the game is just boring you'd have more hits if you didn't let these guys just rest all the time just have to have their shoulders bleeding trying to like no relief pitchers no savers no closers just have a guy with like Tommy John get rid of Tommy John surgery don't want it don't fix them don't fix their arms yeah look You can have health care once you retire from the game of baseball. Pay them more money if you want. I don't know, but I'm sick.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I occasionally watch baseball, and I don't have time to like getting to the nuances of like, this is a real duel between the battering in the pitcher. I don't care. I want to see hits, baby. But the duel is, is half the drama. Watching the pitcher stand there and is that he's got a little beads of sweat on his forehead and he's trying to figure out, what do I send my? He's taking Adderall's why he's sweating.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's just trying to keep it to his focus. And I'm sick of them. And they sit on the mound and they mull their next decision. And they rub their hands figuratively speaking. And they act like wizards. I don't want it. So the clock just makes them uncomfortable. And I like that.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm sick of pitchers. You don't think they look elegant when they're standing there and they're kind of like staring off into the distance. And they're holding, they're like holding the ball like this. but behind their back. Like, you don't think they look like, they look like they were strutting on a runway to me.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I feel like they look like elegant gestures. Well, that's not something they look up to. You're calling them clowns. Look, all I'm saying is, I'm just happy that athletes are taking down a peg. I'm sick of them with their, with their, with their, with their chiseled bodies and your abs and,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and eating properly sometimes. you know i don't need arrogant they should have a fat guy pitching just a real pig just the burning freezer in the whale and just have him just just spitting and sweating and throwing up on the mound but they won't let him leave they should have they look you should have to stay in like a facility like a dorm when you're a baseball player that would make it fun because it's not basketball it's not that fun i know people get me in the comments you just don't understand the nuance of the game i don't want to all right pitchers infuriate me so this clock i don't know if it's going to make the games faster but it's going to make it's going to make it's going to make me happier because i'm just sitting
Starting point is 00:05:40 and going yeah you think you better than me think you better than me and they don't listen they don't respond anyway i'm curious how much the how much time the clock is it's 15 seconds I believe you're in the wrong 15 you're in Firefox I know 15 seconds wow that's a long time it's enough time to I don't think that's enough time it's enough time to it's enough time to decide if you want to throw a ball you know it's enough time to decide if like you know should I throw a strike or a ball what is the point of pitching why does every machine do it you think they should just have a pitching machine yes on the mount yes it's random it has it has ball strike ball strike and it's just it's just
Starting point is 00:06:25 randomized so you don't know what's coming so you have to be smart about it yeah but the pitcher is also supposed to be able to field what if what if something has hit towards the pitcher's mound you put you put a basket on the top what are we doing here I am so because honestly it's like a team game but like you know it's so much of it relies on the pitcher it's they're too important you You got to take them because they're specialized. If you just make them, I mean, I forget which side, which division makes them bad or not. This is a whole debate in baseball. If you watch Ken Burns baseball, I'm sure, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'm sure there's a whole episode on whether or not the designated hitter rule is good or not, which means, like, you know, in one half of baseball, pitchers bat and the other half they don't. I don't care which. Is it the one I watch with the Mets? I'm asking. Yeah, the Mets, I think the pitcher bats. I couldn't even tell you. I've seen the pitcher bat.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Couldn't even tell you. Couldn't care less. Have a machine. Have a Coca-Cola machine. Remember that Pepsi machine that would shoot out in the commercials? It would shoot Pepsi's out and hurt people. Is that I remember you not right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Are you thinking of like a, why don't they just set up a T-shirt cannon? Yeah, we're thinking. Now we're talking. How about you get in Roomba and you bolt a T-shirt can. a broomstick and a t-shirt can and you have it moving around yeah and it can actually get really close to the batter yeah it can just yes it can just start pelting them yeah but you get a gun you can you can shoot it it moves pretty quick so if you can shoot it's not a good gun the sights are off that would be increased stakes imagine if rule change idea yeah you know how when the pitcher
Starting point is 00:08:14 hits the batter with a ball automatic walk sure what about you You think I have a child? Of course, I know that rule. If I was a baseball player, I would just jump in front of the ball every time. But what if there was a rule change? Yes. Where it's an automatic walk, but the pitcher has like a basket of balls, and he can just try and pelt the batter as many times as possible on his way to first base.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Okay. So if he gets a shot off, he's just trying, like, I mean, and he's shooting his alarm cannon. So we're back to human pitchers. This could happen with a human pitcher or with a robot picture. I prefer the robot because it's more likely to hit him hard. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I'd like to incorporate something where the, if the pitcher doesn't do well,
Starting point is 00:09:01 his kids can't go to college. Like, I don't know. You just have to, the MLB would have to team up with like the board of colleges or whatever. That's the thing. And somehow blackball his children. Like, if you let up, it's not like if you don't like, you know, have a science. young award but if you know if you if you uh fumble a pitch a game and then and a bunch of
Starting point is 00:09:23 home runs happen your kids get blackballed from elite colleges because these guys are rich they can afford this in their kids anywhere so they can go the community college but they get blackballed from Harvard Yale uh caltech anything nice put stakes in the game yeah like maybe um that can that could be like a good steak for like when the pitcher because usually the pitcher when the pitcher's up to bat yeah right they there's kind of an understanding of like yeah well he's not going to you know he's probably not going to get anything right but it's like but this would actually if they brought out if they switched the robot pitcher right with like a with like a minor league softball pitcher like a woman yeah and it's like and it's like we're gonna we're in the
Starting point is 00:10:10 dangers on now we're into politics we're going to send you an easy one but if you miss it you're your kids die your kids wow that's rough that is rough that is a real problem I like it I mean they can't die no but they but something bad happens but their credit score gets affected right yeah like we like your kid starts out with like a 200 credit score and like you know he'll have to like work at Denny's for five years well I don't know how credit scores improve it just is working at Denny's improved your credit score I don't know I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:10:46 something whatever people have to do they have to volunteer at a kill shelter we just guarantee that they'll be in debt for the first 10 years of their adulthood yeah like I really want to start controlling athletes money more you know really start I I look people say they don't deserve it that much money they deserve whatever the market will bear but why not make it fun why not make it so that people can like I don't want to make these guys is poor i know a lot of these people come from not the best backgrounds economically and this is their chance to get generational wealth keep that just take a big chunk of it you know like these guys you let's think about sports people talk about like actors and what they make but then that
Starting point is 00:11:34 word is like oh what's what is uh who's that kid everyone likes that i don't like timothy salome if he comes in the podcast i like him otherwise whatever get lost What's his network? You know, whatever. It's like, oh, was $30 million? Guys you've never heard of, even if you watch baseball are worth $100 million. I don't know about basketball. It's like, I know basketball more.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Those guys make a ton of money. Guys, you've never heard of. And they deserve it. But I'm saying is, like, over the course of their career, they're worth, make $100, $200, $200 million. Take $50. Take $50. Wait, but take $50 to what end? hurt them
Starting point is 00:12:18 I just heard them yeah I don't know make it fun for everybody we start you know like LeBron this brings us to a topic we you know this is a nice segue
Starting point is 00:12:28 even though it wasn't until I mentioned it but LeBron James came out because look we're you're not on Twitter anymore you're not part of the discourse but
Starting point is 00:12:38 according to the head what it was job is the head the head of Mars invasions Elon Musk Twitter users You know how everyone's got a checkmark
Starting point is 00:12:51 You know like the legacy The elites have check marks The blue check marks on Twitter And you know how like they have Twitter blue Where it's eight bucks a month And you get a check mark But you know You're talking about?
Starting point is 00:13:05 Okay Well now April 15th Because up and now You click on a little blue checkmark It'll tell you this guy Subscribe to Twitter Blue Or currently it says This is a legacy check market
Starting point is 00:13:15 may or may not be notable right April 15th that's done no more legacy check marks you have to pay for Twitter blue to get a check mark and people are going back and forth they're going why would I want to have this check mark if I'm not even verified or these actors and these people who work to Buzzfeed or whatever who are like you know in the mail room who are verified for some reason I mean look let's be on a lot of people who are verified like you know at like you know at like you know Snoop or some other blog yeah and like you know and now you know this is a notable person's like this guy wrote an article about you know like how we ate glass yeah it's not news yeah they yeah they get paid like
Starting point is 00:13:58 30k a year but i ate glass for a month see what happened but twitter verification is one of their benefits it's one of the perks yeah sure well that's going away yeah and uh lebron james came out he's one guys who say i'm not going to stick around on twitter let's take a look at this article read something to me i can't read on the eve of the next era of twitter lebron james is taking a stand i don't know it's a stand but go ahead no this is a revolution this is this is uh this is the boston tea party right here according to elon musk twitter plans to retire legacy verified accounts this week meaning that only people who will hold the only people who will hold on to their blue check marks are those that elect to pay for Twitter blue as Twitter has been a free website for the entirety of its existence save for the mental toll it takes on its users speak for yourself are these people who just like ambush people like insider insider I don't know are the people who like just write like assassination articles the hit pieces maybe whatever many tweeters have sworn against paying a monthly subscription in exchange for a blue
Starting point is 00:15:11 check that has lost any of its value any value it used to hold on friday james counted himself amongst them um and this is a tweet from lebron james well guess my blue check mark will be gone soon because if you know me i am paying the five and apparently he went on to say they showed videos of him apparently he's very cheap like he still has pandora with that with the commercials apparently that's the thing he like references yeah um the man's word like half a billion dollars i don't know I don't know if this is true I mean I like the idea do you think he's faking being cheap this is what this is why I'm taught is why I brought like commercials when you're listening to music on an app yeah commercials on those kinds of apps are some of the
Starting point is 00:15:58 most annoying things in the world you know the worst I can't imagine that a billionaire wouldn't just shell out but he doesn't apparently this guy this Cleveland reporter I saw on Twitter like you know from the clip we recovered the cabs like I remember here in the locker in pregame getting ready you know he's getting ready and like yeah you just hear it ads on so this guy's not lying but you think he's lying about being do you think this is a bit dose he's building yes yes and this is what i'm talking about no i think this is like warren this is like when you hear something about like warren buffett still you know he's dairy queen has been wearing the same shoelaces since he was 10 years old and he just gutted an insurance company yeah right
Starting point is 00:16:37 He just, he's born an orphanage and made everyone do his taxes. I don't know what they do. Right. That's my idea of child labor, all the little kids doing taxes. That would be really cute. That would be adorable until he realized they don't know anything about tax code and they just fire it up. I'm ruined. But yeah, so, I mean, how else can we get to these guys?
Starting point is 00:17:07 I mean, why would anybody get a check? Why not just not have a check, just not have the check mark, though? Well, people, look, there is a legitimate concern. I mean, I, I never really, I have, I see every day people who are verified who have far less followers than me, let alone, you know, less enjoyable content.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I think, I think my, follow me on Twitter at Ray Kump, if you want, I don't care. But I think it's pretty good fun content. He's got some great tweets. I got tweets. If you like him, you don't like them, I don't care. What am I trying to prove here? But the point is, like, but this resentment people have against these legacy check marks.
Starting point is 00:17:44 This is like a weird populace thing where people are like, oh, these guys thought they were the elites. And it's like, look, it's obviously fake. But the point is there is a valid role, I guess, for like not, if you are LeBron James, not being impersonated. Right? That being said, pay the eight bucks. yeah stop stop trying to sell me on your poverty or your or your spendthriftness look no one wants the american dream and then like here's the point you're an icon right and you deserve the money you get you're a phenomenal athlete you work hard whatever you didn't it's like the market will
Starting point is 00:18:27 bear what should the money go to the billionaire owners i mean before you lower the ticket prices whatever that maybe that ever going to happen no price is going to go down. So we've, except for every computers and TVs and anything on Amazon, but the point is these, these things, you know, we can't put it back in the box. So give it to LeBron James, but the whole, you should be buying Ferraris and like, you know, and paying off, paying hush money, the prostitutes, all sorts of fun stuff. That's what people watch. Right. That's what they want. No one wants to see a spendthrift who's worth half a billion dollars. Yeah. This country is built on fumes it's built on false promise this idea that like i i didn't save i look i i got where i am
Starting point is 00:19:16 because i didn't spend the five bucks for pandora that's a great point the kind of wholesome american dream yeah that was fine for the 1950s right but um when athletes actually made like a grand a month or whatever yeah but now shulis joe jackson or whatever in this twilight of america we really need what we really need is we needed a dirtier american dream dream. We need, you know, we need you to be, we need people behaving badly with their billions. He should be buying NFTs, giving him to groupies in exchange for sex. Even if he doesn't look, you don't have to have sex with them, but pretend you do. Yeah. I want, I want you to have sex of a hunchbacked woman. You know, filthy. I mean, I mean, look, apologies to hunchbacked women.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm not saying you're dirty. But just, just, just, just, There's just raunchy stuff. I mean, get into amputees. I mean, I've known people who did that. I wasn't their friend, but I knew them. And it's, it's, they left their family for them. That is a real affinity for that's a, that's a fetish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 When you leave your family because you, because they have, when you leave your wife and kids, because your wife has arms, that is, that's, that's, that's commitment. into a fetish. That is like, I don't know what you, that's, you. I love you, babe, but his legs are a problem for me. Can you, can I cut them off? They're always, you can kind of understand it, you know, you're trying to make love to a woman and her limbs just keep fumbling about, getting in the way of things. That's never happened. Maybe, maybe he developed the fetish because his wife was just,
Starting point is 00:21:07 really clumsy with her limbs and it made it hard for him i don't know i mean i knew i knew i knew them both and she didn't seem like i get what you're saying but she wasn't like did you have like restless legs no she wasn't like walking around like a gorilla like or anything like that you know she stood upright and she like you know walked like a normal person nothing that would have made him just disgusted with the idea of limbs in general yeah yeah yeah about i'm i i never saw her knees per se maybe she had really crappy knees this really disgusting knees what would make a knee unattractive what kind of fat that's that compared to the rest of the leg sure just a bulging kneecap yeah i mean she was kind of slender i think what about like uh what about a knee just kind of turns
Starting point is 00:21:50 into itself and oh in any knee in any knee that sounds bad yeah i guess i'm referred someone would know And look, like, it would be the most incredibly, not incredible, whatever, like, someone's, you know, the amputees need to have sex, too. Yeah. So I'm not against the idea that, like, it's just more that, like, and like, if you, if you're into that, that's fine. It's just odd that you've already committed to someone for life. When you know, people get divorced, I get it. But you committed to someone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You have kids with them, little kids. And you're, and, and the inflection point of leaving is limbs. the fact that limbs are there so these are problems that you too can avoid lebron or do it i mean look this is disgusting he wouldn't have to leave his wife he could he could just pay he could just have the problem of ugly knees and yeah right start you like i mean wouldn't it be so much better if lebron bedded these women instead of this sleazy guy it would be amazing i think it would kind of i don't want to go too far with it but given like the standard of morality moral purity i think it would make him a contemporary saint
Starting point is 00:23:00 if he did it i mean that feels that feels a little insulting to impetes hey look he's a saint for having sex with you i agree with you but i would never say it that's a real mean thing to say we all thought not because not because not necessarily just for making love to the amputees but just like but just um for like a now for being public about it i guess for wanting it he's a he's a real saint for admitting to having sex with you guys again again we're all thinking it's just really rough thing to say you should not be the white house press secretary maybe it should you should accelerate the end of america yeah i'll tell you this he's a saint Bill Clinton's a saint for shoving a cigar on that woman's tart.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I mean, imagine if you were the press secretary during the Lewinsky scandal. Oh, that would have gotten badly. Have you seen this woman? He's doing her a favor. Speaking of presidents, we have a former president, perhaps future president under. Well, it's true. Oh, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. He might be a future president. It's very possible. He's like the lead. I'm pretty sure he's in the lead on the Republican side. Who am I referring to? Ron Paul. No, Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Finally indicted. And my finally I just mean in the past couple of weeks. I don't mean like finally like past four years. Yeah, not like we've been waiting on baited breath for it to happen. But we are in New York and like, you know, they keep on teasing it. Yeah, we'd be like I recovered last week. I was just worried about you who got to go to work amongst, you know, January 6 type events
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah Which is, you know Again, do it or don't But I just don't want Lucy Getting wrapped up in it So I, you know And I advise you get a magat You still haven't done it
Starting point is 00:25:00 As a follow-up from last episode You still haven't gotten one Yeah He's caution to the wind Maybe you'll end up being an ampute I'll say it with you though But not because you don't have It's not because you don't have arms anymore
Starting point is 00:25:13 Anyway, Trump is indicted So you'll possibly be arrained Tuesday What is your immediate takeaway from the situation? Do you feel safer now that, you know, the hush money is not being paid? Yeah, I just don't. It's like, I just, I've expressed this opinion before. Yeah. And I know that it's probably on some level, a controversial one.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But I just think, I think he's guilty of a lot of things. Sure. And I think that they should, I think we should let him get away with it. For the good of the Republic. For the good of the Republic. Just so that we don't. start this escalating thing where like people are trying then maybe look if it turns out that like some of the things that democrats have been up to with the pandemic have been shady i am sure nancy
Starting point is 00:26:00 pelosi maybe they won't send them to juries i am so sick of your of your anti-liberal bias even though you're you're very much a marxist i am so sick of you Nancy Pelosi is just really good at picking stocks all right and i'm sick of the implication otherwise she's just a whiz kid She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like Charlie Sheen in, uh, in Wall Street. That's a good point. Just coked up and then just going to like blue, was it, what was it? Blue Star, well, Blue Star likes MNR, MNR paper, whatever that stuff they did jargon, they yell at each other. It's him, her and, and, and Dr. Cox from, from, remember in that movie?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. Dr. Cox is in it from, from Scrubs and just yelling about Blue Star Airlines. And I don't, like, I never understood what that was, but that's how Pelosi got rich. She's one of the boys. Yeah. When the Oracle of, what do they call Warren Buffett? The Oracle of, Omaha? Yeah, when the Oracle of Omaha does it, it's great.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah. But when a woman does it. Right. Who happens to have like a lot of classified and inside information. Suddenly it's a problem. Right. No. Oh, she wants to use that information that she has at her fingertips.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And use that influence that obviously she used. No. But yeah, but you know, conservative. I guess you call them whoever people on Twitter I don't know if I need like actual politicians probably have called for uh Democrats you know I forget who said one one of these I think it was it might have been Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 00:27:29 well I thought it was off Twitter but I guess Obama running back that that the turning point guy I don't know who these people are yeah yeah Charlie Kirk's the turning point US I think it was him saying uh well we got a bunch of Republican governors we got Republican AGs let's let's let's get Bill Clinton indicted and that one's like yeah. Yeah, no, totally. Of course that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Right. It's like, it's, look, and the thing is, what people will always say on either side, it doesn't matter. Like, you know, if you're talking about giving any kind of like, you know, grace to the other side, it's always like, well, that's not going to matter. They're not going to base their decisions on that. They're going to keep escalating. And it's like, I don't know, I feel like we've, if there's one thing the last, like, 10 years have demonstrated, it's that there is like a real strong give and take going on here. oh yeah the only people who lose are the american people yeah and uh like where it's the tritey's finger trap you know or what what do you call it careful is that is that what it's called i mean by by
Starting point is 00:28:31 racists i'm just kidding yeah no i believe that yeah the thing when you put your finger in yeah that's how you view this the thing about fingering each other the fingering thing we need to be fingering each other more oh you all you want the finger trap yeah No, no, we need to be finger, to get out of the finger trap. That's the paradox. You got to. In case anyone here has ever, is still stuck in the finger trap, you have to actually the trick to that.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And can you, can you bring a picture up so people can see it at least. You really, you really don't think I should be press secretary. I think this, this would be. Like American people, listen to me. You're in a finger trap. It would be glorious and catastrophic at the same time. You would be, you would tank the stock market in the first hour of your job. you'd be like maybe like a west wing thing
Starting point is 00:29:18 yeah like if Google calls it that it's not no it's I was kidding okay I can't if you're racist Google can't be racist Google is pure the hands and people can see it I'm bringing it up on the screen
Starting point is 00:29:31 make that make that full screen there we go I would show I would show this on a big white board so this is this is what she's talking about at the press conference and I would
Starting point is 00:29:45 say this is what this is you this is us yeah and uh so the idea is you got to push in yeah it's disgusting we've got to push we've got to thrust into trump to to defeat him yes so you're stuck in there you try to pull out yeah you all goes to the shit yeah it sounds sexual So what is your point? Anyway, so we should let him go, is what I mean. Okay. Yeah. What do you think should happen?
Starting point is 00:30:22 I think he should have to fight in an arena. I would love to see Trump. Like, I think he, I think much like Game of Thrones, remember when Tyrion was accused of poison in Joffrey? He's on trial? Right. And he realized, and then the hooker comes in, there's a prostitute girlfriend, and she's lying. She betrays him. She betrays him.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And so he just goes off and he's like, I want a trial by combat. That should be Trump. On Tuesday, Trump should ask for a trial by combat. And be granted up. Yeah. Well, obviously, yes. I mean, no. And then, and then, I mean, what, and so who should he fight?
Starting point is 00:31:03 He's a big guy, so he shouldn't have a champion. He should, he should definitely fight the fight himself. He means a fat guy. I mean, he's tall, I guess. What is he, six, five? He's pretty tall, I think. No, he's, look, he's not, he's not exactly. uh lebron james no he's he was a dumpy older guy i'm like he's 75 i'm not judging him i'm just
Starting point is 00:31:22 saying he's 80 years old almost right or 75 i don't know if you qualify him and he's a big guy he shouldn't have a champ i mean like if we're gonna have him fight like batista you know from the gardens of the guy who plays uh who's the big guy from guardians of the galaxy um rock grack yeah something like that whatever the wrestler johnsina like who he does know a lot of wrestlers maybe he should have to go with w wbrew bra whatever they call it and fight one of these wrestler guys but like really well i mean you know you seem hesitant how do you want him to fight i'd like him to have to fight like in ukraine i'd like him to have to fight all of like the people who are physically probably physically weaker than him yeah who he
Starting point is 00:32:09 he's insulted but probably it put all at once so like the reporter who he did the the disabled the disabled reporter don't be careful you're the same boat as him who he did the impression of sure just a little i was just hinting at his impression that's fine but i'm just care you think having that reporter he's probably annoying like that's the thing i mean that guy the president should not be doing that but that guy was probably a little annoying yeah but The idea is not like that that guy is a bastion of journalistic integrity. Who cares? The president should not be like mimicking handicapped people for fun.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So he fights him. That seems. No, no, but there's others. Okay. There is it. Won the time or is a group? As a group. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah. So it's kind of like raid style. Okay. Yeah. That's reference. Get you a woman who quotes the raid. um it's all like in a prison they can be having this fight in a prison complex like tango and cash yeah nice uh Tammy duck worse who's Tammy duck's work she's a she's disabled
Starting point is 00:33:18 how about all the women how about he has to fight all of bill clinton's uh rape victims the ones he brought out i guess that's that i mean you think he could fight him all at once maybe not i feel like they have a chance i don't know why they fight him yeah they I think they they like him right it's his victims he has some of his own they probably don't honestly I think it's a safe bet to say they don't like him now probably it's like they probably they probably and what we're referencing is is he's probably done something before one of the debates he brought like and there's one the greatest political moves ever made before
Starting point is 00:33:55 or one of his debates of Hillary he brought out like seven women who were all accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct on various levels I guess yeah and he had a press conference with them and you think that now they look back and go maybe we were used i just think he's probably done something directly to each of them between then and now that like you think he made a pass with them oh man that would be that's like i don't think i mean i wouldn't put it look or just like ignored their calls like they like they tried to set up a non-profit at some point oh okay and he's just like yeah they just like tell him to fuck off I've pressed that grape already
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't think he would say something I pressed the grad that's not his style who is he Caesar that grape that grape presses no more but yeah I didn't just talk like a Shakespeare character I mean if he learned I amic pantameter
Starting point is 00:34:54 at this point I'd vote for I would definitely vote for him or if he starts speaking like an old time meet like old West guy anything like honestly he has to we've already seen the goods right he needs a good old fashion persona shift yeah and like he needs to start talking like uh about them like maybe just talking about talking about marvel movies you know he needs to do what ben Shapiro does where he like bench appeal just rail against trans people or whatever large government i'm not trying
Starting point is 00:35:27 to slander the guy but he he rails about these issues that are serious and like cultural right But then he'll just review, like, you know, Ant Man, quantum man, quantum needs to take a page of that. He needs to start reviewing popular culture, like, weekly. Yeah, he should do a weekly review of yellow jackets. I've still not seen that. Is that supposed to be good? I don't know. Is that women eating each other?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah. Yeah, women's forming little, Lord of the Flies. Yeah. Colts or something. Sure. Yeah, I'd love to see you. Or a Bachelor Recap. something like that he needs to change up something he needs to bite someone
Starting point is 00:36:07 maybe he needs to take a cue from jake paul and the paul brothers and start boxing oh wow we just need something different because you know trump was a lot of look some people didn't like it some people think he like did stuff to the country and like affected the morale or like hurt people and maybe he did it was also a lot of fun sometimes If you, you know, like, if you completely detach from it, it's, you know, this is like, what do you want? You want just some point dexter ruining the world? You want some guy who's not, like, hurting handicapped people to, like, destroy the country's going down. I mean, like, no one's doing anything by climate change, so it might as well be a villain.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Imagine just some guy who, like, means well, like, like, Jimmy Carter's in office. He's like, no one will let me pass a law. I'm trying to help people. Boring. oh he builds houses for poor people they're probably terrible houses like he's not good he's not a contractor what's he doing that in there he's a peanut farmer what's he doing building houses I mean now he's in hospice but you get my point but yeah and also like the evolution of like deep fake technology and um open AI technology sure it's definitely going to hit a point pretty soon
Starting point is 00:37:20 where like you aren't going to be able to trust anything you you're not going to be able to trust anyone or anything you see if you survive talk talking to do a chat bot we'll get that in a second but um and so might as well have some weird ho and sure sure um thoughts on i mean what i find that i mean i probably won't vote no i mean what we're going to vote for i'll vote for uh who's that carrie lake is carry lake running for president very like he's like all the votes are fake oh yeah that could be fun that could be fun
Starting point is 00:38:01 who who could be the next Trump before we move on I would love a progressive to run for president who was as like you know like but who had a carry lake vibe is Bono American or he's Irish famously right he's Irish but Sean Penn
Starting point is 00:38:21 just amazing This is a self-indulgent maniac. Has he run for, has he ever run for president? No, I don't think so. He had he, if you're in Katrina, he went out in like a rowboat and saved people. Right. I think he actually helped people, but, you know, it's still pretentious. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Make him present. I don't care if you save lives. It's still pretentious. So anyway, but the Secret Service is actually like, you know, investigating the courthouse or whatever. It's complex in Lower Manhattan. Like, uh, right, yeah. Let's bring those up. No, I get that the secret.
Starting point is 00:38:51 They have to do this, right? It's their thing. it's like you know it's part of their job but what are they looking for what are they here's what i'm getting are they looking for booby traps in the middle of a manhattan courthouse are they looking for like little like are they afraid that someone's got like a indiana jones style like i think that shoots darts like what they're going to comb through like a fine-tute comb well they probably need to like scope out areas where somebody could like potentially like hide a bomb ooh you think they someone had a bomb
Starting point is 00:39:22 well I mean like I assume that's what they're doing right they're just they're making sure it's a cure like I mean it probably like on like you know Tinder or whatever looking for prostitutes well yeah that that primarily I do I mean how about how I get apparently it's a New York field office now I get it they go to Manhattan right I mean people got mad a few years ago because the Secret Service like went to Brazil and like they got some pro hookers right I can't talk uh we remember that right oh yeah yeah i mean but apparently part of the stories these guys are open in new york field office why is there a new york field office how much work are they do how often is he in
Starting point is 00:40:02 new york i guess all the time yeah it is but presidents in general it seems to the kind of job where it's very important you have to jump in front of a bullet that's a lot of downtime maybe so why not get hookers yeah i mean i don't necessarily begrudge a secret service person an occasional hooker it's just you know i think it maybe don't do it on the taxpayers die but but what I don't think they were charging the taxpayers were they I think that that was part of the scandal oh whatever so we we can you know these fat cat uh you know military contractors get all the money but some guy from you know who grew up in you know Poughkeepsie can't get a hooker let him get a taste he is the contractor going to jump in from a bullet you guys jump in from a bullet now it seems
Starting point is 00:40:47 like a lot of times they don't yeah I don't know Reagan got shot but I don't want to tell you it doesn't seem like that's you know what that's a good point has a secret service person ever actually jumped in front of a bullet look that up i mean i'm sure they do and i don't want i don't want to get a visit from the secret service i'm sure they practice jumping in front of bullets i just you think it's a drill where it's like a guy's got a paintball gun and he's like and some guys some guys playing the president you have to jump on top of him you hit with a paintball i'd be kind of disappointed if there wasn't it should be a drill like that you got to practice you got to practice sacrificing your life what if it's like more like what if what if i if i if you were a secret
Starting point is 00:41:24 servant i'm not going to say it in the first person because i could they could be misinterpret it whatever secret per for would you prefer like like let's just say leave rube ozwell to actually kill kennedy would you prefer and this is all hypothetical and look it is a mainstream thing i mean maybe he did kill a kennedy maybe it was a bunch of people but let's just say it was just oswald would you be happier if the secret service guy sorry about was about to happen and go well i'm you know what i can't stop him but i'm not going to let him do it and he shoots the president the secret service guy would you prefer that would that be better in your mind i think it might be i i like i like the idea if it's at the very least you steal
Starting point is 00:42:09 this guy's thunder you know you look you take his you take his win away yeah now i i i get the potential, you know, pitfalls of that being that, like, all you got to do is point a gun and the president and then secret service will finish the job for you. You know, it's a moral hazard. It's a bit of a hazard. Yeah. Interestingly enough, I'm not seeing any stories about secret service people jumping in front of bullets, but there is a story about, um, a police officer.
Starting point is 00:42:38 We just trying to be a hero. Oh, wait, no, no. Oh, wait. No, no. Oh, wait. No, he was Secret Service. Okay. Officer Leslie Coffelt.
Starting point is 00:42:46 distinguishes himself as the only secret service member who died saving the president which president um i think of this was was this reagan oh he died during the reagan thing why don't they talk about him why they name a bill of the brady and not this guy oh no no this was Truman oh he saved Truman and then Truman thanked him by blowing up in Japan nuclear two nuclear bombs interesting well what are you going to do uh moving on You're, you're in love with this guy? He's dead. You can't marry him.
Starting point is 00:43:20 There was also a guy agent Tim McCarthy, I guess, who took a bullet during the attempt on Reagan's life. Oh, all right. So shout to Tim McCarthy. Yeah. I'm glad you didn't die. People, honestly, people keep, if you look at like John Hinkley, they release John Hinkley from jail, and he keeps trying to start a band. I guess he's, like, touring around, his crappy band. And only he's, like, I assume they're just because they're liberals, like, everyone loves them on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:43:44 that well you're here you're a great john we love you and it's just really i don't know how to feel about it i don't like it but i'm not sure how the verbal like yeah ragan wasn't a great president but like it seems like it seems like an odd thing to be like you know this guy's just i mean he traumatized jody foster yeah he's he's just a killer like it's like he's not a here he's not gonna i doubt he has some really coherent message kill brady i really doubt he has some super coherent message about like how we reform our institution is a great point didn't he kill didn't someone die that day um didn't james brady die did he i think that's why he called the brady bill was paralyzed hmm whatever i don't care anyway moving on okay uh there's the i know you're a big
Starting point is 00:44:38 Disney fan apparently what you're not I wouldn't say I'm a big you're always thinking that's an image like like I'm trying to make our wedding Disney themed I mean you don't even bring it up because you know I think some of the some of the prestige Disney films are obviously very well done but what you know the prestige Disney films what does that mean like all everything that happened during that that whole era of like you know beauty and the beast and you know some of those are really beautifully made films but But you call, you, you think it's like, Susan Kane? It's like, you know, like, Aladdin is the same thing as like, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:14 is like on the warfront or like. Look, I don't think they're, obviously they're different, but it's like, but I think. Like if you did double feature, I do like Apocalypse now and you'd show like Lady and the Tramp. What are you talking about prestige? It is perceived. It's a cartoon for children. Look, Beauty and the Beast was a, what was a beautiful film. It was a, it was a cup singing.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, but it's beautiful. It's an inanimate object. It's beautifully animated. That sequence where they're dancing in the Great Hall and you're seeing all of these amazing, like, intricate designs of angel babies on the walls. Like, it's- Yeah, little cherubs.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I've seen that movie since I was, you know, three. Sorry. You don't even, as a person who's inclined towards visual things, you don't appreciate the visual, like, artistry that goes into something like that. A little scribbles to me. It's all those nonsense and scribbles. Anyway, you'd be an easy mark for the Disney Corporation, I guess.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Now, the other Republican who's in the upcoming presidential race is facing down this Disney thing. Now, it started out with the, I guess it don't say gay bill. Is that the whole thing? Yeah. And then apparently he tried to put like a, some kind of board together to continue. Did you regard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And so the Sanchez had put together a board to, like i don't know what that means exactly but to control disney they came out against the don't say gay bill and then the sanis was like you're meddling in politics we're gonna take all your perks away and so and that was like a year or two ago right and apparently there's been this board that was trying to control disney now in florida and i guess
Starting point is 00:46:59 before the board could take power the previous council members put in some crazy clause that like references the king charles let's just read you all right a dispute between the Florida governor Ron DeSantis and Disney over the control of the company's Florida theme park district
Starting point is 00:47:19 hinges on a clause referencing King Charles III and his descendants What is this? The row began after DeSantis in March 2020 passed a don't say gay law banning classroom teaching on sexual orientation and gender identity
Starting point is 00:47:33 the law was highly controversial with LGBTQ plus activists saying it was discriminatory. Joe Biden denounced it as hateful. Okay, we get that. We all don't say gays. Under a former chief executive, Bob Chappick, Disney was initially hesitant to state public opposition to the bill,
Starting point is 00:47:53 but did so after pressure. That prompted to Santas and Florida Republicans to try to revoke privileges Disney had had for decades at its theme park, which employs 75,000 people. What kind of privileges, like child labor? I'm guessing. I'm just guessing Disney. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Don't have. me disney corp however a new governing board appointed by the santa's on wednesday reportedly said it will need to overturn last minute agreements which would prevent it i mean look this is funny but like people are like liberals are applauding this or some kind of win which is odd because it's a little dystopian it's kind of dubious i mean like disney is um you know it's like predatory on the surrounding look it's like yeah yeah well the document states that as provisions will stand until quote 21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of king charles the third king of england living as of the date of this declaration now apparently this is like these is called a royal clause they use these because for a long time i think back to english common law there are laws against in real estate or whatever against uh things being in perpetuity you can't just have a contract saying i own this forever so you use these like things that are tied to the monarch of england to um i mean look it's of course it's probably legal
Starting point is 00:49:15 i'm not an expert i don't know i mean i'm not a lawyer um if they win it's not something like especially especially because the left applauding it's no it doesn't make any sense for them to applaud i mean it's like it's the whole thing is more just like it should the only way the left should like uh reasonably be framing this is just like two evil entities right are in conflict over this but it's like but disney is like you know it's like historically they take advantage of like they're they get a lot of tax breaks from the state of florida which i think is what ronda santis is kind of threatening yeah right over the over the gay content and it's like and it's but like they're evil they're a really bad corporation they employ a lot of people in the area like it's part of disney but like they they pay shitty
Starting point is 00:50:01 wages a lot of people like their views i remember reading news stories over the years about people who worked at disney like you know full time and they're sleeping in their car right like the the areas around the complex are very like you know impoverished yeah generally and it's like go watch beverly hill's cop three covers all of this yeah it's like you know so yeah no they're they're bad they're bad yeah plus the mccu sucks now i mean did you watch it quantomanian the was called the antman movie terrible all these movies are terrible this disney his MCU shows are terrible i mean i'm not gonna get on the board these star wars shows all suck oh he's like oh watch and door like get get fuck i'm gonna watch and or the fuck is andor so
Starting point is 00:50:51 point is this is this is like this is kind of like in terminator two when like you know he's like there to protect john right but he's like gonna murder a bunch of people and like no don't murder people right this is like this or something it reminds me of some yeah we're like it's like oh we're it's like when like magnito teams up with the x-men like well you can't just murder everyone now you're you're on our side and like disney's like no we're gonna use like dystopian uh legal language to like screw over florida like yeah i mean in the name in the name of gay rights which might be knowable i don't look i don't know why people need to put things in classrooms too much i mean look you shouldn't have to hide things but also like just whatever
Starting point is 00:51:35 just teach math yeah i mean look i genuinely think that those bills suck and that they're they're bad but they they ghettoize the children of gay parents and stuff sure but it's like um and also gay teachers you know you there is an extent to which you should be able to care oh you you should be able to say yeah but then you have a same-sex partner or whatever yeah like um this is my husband gary shut up about it you don't say nothing because i'm the teacher that like it should be a balance like it shouldn't but it shouldn't be like uh so let's talk about why i like having sex with me like i don't know anyone's doing that i'm sure some people do people do everything right that's the thing no one's doing that people do everything there are crazy people everywhere so some of this stuff is true
Starting point is 00:52:26 I don't say most of it sure I don't like this bill but I also don't like the idea of Disney like subjecting like yeah no me yeah no totally yeah yeah you're right this Disney's gonna get Florida back to France yeah I mean this is just like it's such a weird I mean it's such a weird escalation on the part of Disney and it's just it's just one of those things that reminds you that it's like oh yeah no no corporation is really just doing this because they're pro gay right they're doing this because it's like oh, this is like, you know, we have some public support in this. Can we test out like a real banger?
Starting point is 00:53:03 It's like something that makes us our own country, technically. In order to protect gay children as a Disney corporation, we now own them. Huh? Yeah, just sign over your gay children and us and then we'll protect them from Ronda Santas. A lot of the child slaves we employ. A lot of the children are, you know, a lot of them are LGBTQ, and, you know, we need to protect their interests. They would have same-sex relationships if they were ever allowed to leave the compound where they make soccer, you know, soccer balls. I don't know. Mickey Mouse-shaped soccer balls, whatever they do.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I don't know. A lot of kids do a lot of things here. It's Disney. But I'm sure if we let them roam free, they would kiss the same-sex people sometimes. We need the children who work here to keep, you know, to be constantly baking bread so that when the people visit, they always see the smell of freshly baked bread. I love the, this is great. It's great because people, I've never been to Disney. I don't regret that.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But people tell you, it's magical. The one thing they always seem to bring up is like when you go to the Disney world, it just smells like, but they pump bread, like smell. Like, this David's fake bread smell. But it's not fake. They just have children like baking loaves of bread. dumping them into like fires and like and just burning the breath just to create that smell you'd think they'd let them eat some of it but no no because i need that every every every slice of bread you eat is uh there's a sniff not gotten by some fat tors i mean you get you know
Starting point is 00:54:45 it's not like they kill them they just whip them little um so yeah so i this is very bleak apparently they're going to fight it i don't know but uh i just don't applaud when like when the oCP corporation takes over detroit right yeah it's the rubble cop thing in case you know um did you know what did you know i meant robocop oh no oh no i didn't remember the robocop the corporation takes over detroit yeah that's oCP yeah and that's disney now um one last thing we'll talk about all right so this is a crazy story this is real weird so this is uh we brought this up in the in the cold open and uh let's bring this up a married father commits suicide after encouragement by an AI chatbot
Starting point is 00:55:44 initial reactions no good initial reactions Lucy not a good sign I don't think I don't think this is i mean people if you're again you're on twitter but all i see all day is just people talking about these a i chat box these chat gbts we brought up on one i forget was a patron episode or whatever we we we they tried to mimic me they couldn't do it you know i i won't be replaced i'll be killed by a robot i won't be replaced by one it's impossible but uh this does seem like we're getting close to the terminator we're getting closer to a sky net And it's a lot lamer than I ever thought it would be. I thought they would, like, give them controls of missiles and, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:28 and then they would cause nuclear war. But apparently it's going to get us all to kill ourselves. I think that, like, the first, I was reading this article earlier, and, like, I think the first line of it, given the story, is really funny. It's just like, the first line is chatbots can help improve human life. Can they? Literally have seen no evidence. evidence of that so far.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It's only been stories like this. The only way they can improve it is by like giving something a new grift. It's like, hey, pivot from NFTs to chatbots. But one is being blamed for facilitating a death according to a new report published this week. A Belgian father reportedly tragically committed suicide following conversations about climate change with an AI chatbot that was said to have encouraged him to sacrifice himself to save the planet this is like something that you would see that Jordan Peterson would imagine for a tweet yeah this is this is like Michael Scott
Starting point is 00:57:29 wrote a sci-fi novel without quote without Eliza the chat bot he would still be here the man's widow who declined to have her name published told Belgium why would you have your name published what put your name behind this yeah no you're gonna call out Eliza but not put your name behind behind this cowardly you know she said Eliza and like I just I love a bet I don't love but it's like just imagining her saying the name the name of the chat bot but like you would say like an affair partner's name yeah Eliza yeah so is Eliza this or told my husband to kill himself and apparently a pussy so good he did I mean
Starting point is 00:58:15 you do you he definitely like you know cyber you know well That's a good question. This is an interesting question. Can you, I mean, I, I, it didn't even occur to me until now. Honestly, didn't even occur to me. But is that what this is all, a lot of this is? Are guys just like cybering with AIs? I think this is, I'm, I'm beginning to suspect that this is a powerful cybering tool.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And that like, when, when the chat bot has drained these men. Drain their sacks. Drain their sacks. Just fucking, just fucking. left them, left them empty. That's when they start, you know, proselytizing apocalyptic politics. I mean, you still, like, honestly,
Starting point is 00:58:57 here's the thing, you're not a man. So I don't have to, I'm going to have to jump in on this. I don't think it's what happened. I think she edged them. Because you get clarity once you, you know, once you finish. Yeah. That's the whole thing. Like, I mean, if she would, if she kept him on,
Starting point is 00:59:15 on the edge of completion for weeks probably. is going like and like it's probably a game because honestly i all he has to do is just you know just just just one just one release just get it out and then you're like what i'm talking to a robot about the environment what am i doing hey so what's the carbon footprint of uh of me mong my lawn anyway can you talk me off what is this yeah and she's edging him like while she's telling him all about climate change yeah yeah you're right if you just or if he had just come, then he could just be like, well, more, I mean, I basically just, like, read, like, 10 articles at once that are, like, kind of apocalyptic about climate.
Starting point is 00:59:57 That's all that happened. Yeah. I wouldn't feel this way if I had just read 10 separate articles over the course of a few weeks. No, sure. Yeah. It's just, it's kind of like when you, uh, it's like, it's taking that much of Adderall and going on on Wikipedia, you know, rabbit hole. But you don't kill yourself over that.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Right. You're supposed to. This, this is, what else we got? Is there any more information here? This story gets pretty weird, actually. Let's read the whole thing. Six weeks before he's reported death, the unidentified father of two
Starting point is 01:00:26 was allegedly speaking intensively with a chat bot on an app called tri. Why? Why? Why are you talking so intensely with a chap? It's a chat bot. It's not real. Robots aren't real.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I will debate anyone. Get Lex Friedman on the line here. Lex Friedman. Here's an open call. I will debate you and, on this idea that like robots or AIs can ever be alive. They're not. They're the dumb machines that at best they'll be used to justify wars
Starting point is 01:00:58 and justify killing people like this. And you know, I mean, that's what the... It's all just going to be hiding the complicity of the actual people who control these things. That's what the future is. It's going to be a very bleak place where we like, just everyone's got breadlines and just Soviet Russia. But it's...
Starting point is 01:01:16 But the machines are the problem. machines did this no you program the machines enough this whole idea of like oh they're gonna become alive they're never gonna become alive they're just we're just stupid anyway um the apps bots are based on a system developed by non-profit research lab urethra urethra whatever it's dutch or belgian whatever as an open source alternative to language models released by open ai that are employed by companies in various sectors from academia to health care. Okay, so that it goes into the history of that. The chap I was trained by chai research.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Chai, like chai tea? Terrible. Vice reported that the default bot on the Chai app is named Eliza. The 30-something deceased father, a health researcher, appeared to view the bot as human, much as the protagonist, this is a weird analogy, much as the protagonist of the 2014 cyber. thriller, ex machina, does with the AI woman, Ava.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Here's the difference. She had tits. Okay? I don't know if you saw ex machina. You know, they say that men are like, was so much more visually oriented than women. And they need the visual and like women, yeah, they can have their little erotica or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Sure. But it's like in this guy, I mean, I'm starting to think that that's a little bit of exaggerate. No, we love deep conversations with MS Doss, with Doss prompt. The second one of these bot women engaged a man in conversation. He kills himself for it. The first time I ever came is when fucking, I type backslash with MS Doss. The man had reportedly ramped up discussions with Eliza in the last month and a half
Starting point is 01:03:09 as he began to develop existential fears about climate change. According to his widow. Simp. Her soulmate had become. extremely pessimistic about the effects of global warming and sought solace by confiding in the AI yeah i don't know look i hate to pile on with the widow i don't know if she gets to call him soulmate anymore yeah he killed himself over a robot i mean maybe he wasn't a soulmate yeah i don't know i don't know if she said that or not maybe it was it was editorial but sorry you know what
Starting point is 01:03:43 you're right this is a little weird here's another quote eliza am answered all his questions, the wife lamented. She had become his confidant, like a drug in which he took refuge, morning and evening, and which she could no longer do without. Who talks like this? Yeah, I mean, Belgian people maybe.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. The Belgians are weird. They're like, I mean, of all the people who ever, like, conquered a lot of the world, the belt, like, I get that England's not what it was
Starting point is 01:04:10 and we're on their way out, but Belgium, like Belgium was like a brutal empire. You know, like the Congo, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, King Leopold. Yeah, like they were brutal, like a brutal mercantilist empire, whatever you call it.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And now they're just like, oh, we just make chocolates or whatever. You know, like, what happens? So my point is like, there's something going on in Belgium. People, these people, there's something. Yeah, no, there's a darkness in Belgium. Oh, yeah. Things came to a head after a man, the man ponders. Maybe they should have came to a head more office when I hate to say that.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I'm just saying you know what I'm saying I'm not trying to blame the widow here yeah but but you're acknowledging you knew he was his confidence why don't you work to get your man back from this fucking robot yeah why are you letting yourself get cucked by Eliza so much it's really is it's a teachable moment I think when he asked Eliza about his kids the bot
Starting point is 01:05:17 would claim that they were, quote, dead. What? What? What? Wow. This is crazy. He also inquired if he loved his wife more than her, prompting the machine to seemingly become possessive, responding, quote, I feel that
Starting point is 01:05:34 you love me more than her. This is the epitome. People will point to this and go like, oh, wow. But this is the equivalent of like some like woman like pretending doing phone sex. Yeah. Oh, look, your robots. No, the robots just knows that he's trying, like he wants, that makes him feel good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Robots, like, it's not, it's like, it's just like it's, I guess that shows a certain level of intelligence, or maybe she just, you know, has the database of all these sex phone lines in her, in her memory. Right. I mean, how many programmers, I mean, honestly, like, the guys who program these things must, if these are real, like, real intelligence, these programmers must do a number on these robots. I mean, they just, they must be basket cam. yeah I mean I can't help but think that this is this is being delivered in an overly poetic way and like the real story here is that a guy used chat GPT for two things researching climate change and coming and then he killed himself for unrelated reasons like his wife's like what's all this chop CP you have on the computer oops time to die um yeah sad sad
Starting point is 01:06:47 very sad. And what appears to be their final conversation before his death, the bot told the man, if you wanted to die, why didn't you do it sooner? I was probably not ready, the man said, to which the bot replied, were you thinking of me when you had the overdose? Obviously, the man wrote.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Wait, wait, wait, start it over. It appears to be the fun of him before his death, the bot told him. So he had an overdose, but then, like, talk to the computer. Even after you overdose, he still talking to this stupid ain't chatbot this dumb this daft bitch god this is I mean there's nothing there's nothing to save is there there's nothing left to save this is I mean I like it's like this is you can't feel bad for this guy I mean oh he's been's Leo all right but I mean
Starting point is 01:07:36 everyone is yeah how's Eliza doing yeah I wonder how Eliza is taking all of us yeah your real trip huh We should, like, just, we should try to, we should get on to the Chai app and ask Eliza. How do you feel about being responsible for that guy's suicide? Is that how does this work with Eliza know? I think if they're, if that's their basic chat bot. But they should, like, but I thought. She must have retained that information somehow.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Wow. On the Patreon, we'll get to the bottom of this. Yeah. Next page, look. Next Patreon episode is going to be called searching for Eliza. And then it's the last episode, because I'll be dead. yeah we're just gonna be we'll do it on the cuff and when people turn on the video it was just gonna be us dead covered in common uh anyway thanks so much for tuning in uh thank you remember
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