Kump - 145 - Death Table
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Today on Kump, we have obituary faux pas, New York under attack, and debt tables.
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Hello and welcome to comp.
Lucy hi how are you i'm good you are good uh wedding planning is ramping up sure is uh we're
getting married yeah which is wonderful and it means i'm going to spend my life with you and apparently
i have to create some kind of uh altar at the reception uh with icons of uh of of dead people
what is this are we building a church look it's traditional to have a table that's honoring the dead
honoring your dead loved ones who would be at the wedding probably but but can't be because they're
dead and so you put their pictures on it on a table what tradition is this is this amongst
funeral directors amongst people who worship trees who
Boo, whose tradition is this?
It happened at one wedding we went to.
That's as far as I know.
It's multiculturally traditional, I think.
Because what if, okay, so let's say, you know,
you had somebody very close to you who maybe would be involved in the wedding.
Right?
Yeah.
And, but, you know, they're not there.
What, are you just going to pretend they don't exist?
You do a proxy dance for them.
You have someone from, you know, from the wedding party, perhaps.
maybe your mother maybe you know a cousin or brother uh dance with you uh in place of that person
in in beautiful honor and and great ceremony well that i think that's also a sweet idea but like
and that's nice and it's not there the whole time it's the thing you do after dinner maybe after
the father-daughter dance yeah those things um it's done it's a nice little thing it doesn't
you don't do a whole song it's it's out of everyone's mind and they get to eat cake and you throw
the panties at, you know, the bride throes or panties at the men or whatever it happens at these
weddings.
You're describing is a permanent fixture for the whole duration of the wedding.
That people can just kind of walk by and look at and gawk at.
Yeah.
And, and, see, I think the thing, the, the, the proxy dance is a nice idea, but the problem
is there's no visual representation.
The person.
It's not like the proxy is wearing a mask to look like your dead loved one.
That would be able to look at the face of your dead loved one.
I'd prefer the mask.
We have the technology to make a mask.
It won't be great.
We can print out a picture.
Or we could make a deep fake.
We could do a deep fake.
Can they do live deep fakes yet?
Is that like where you can kind of stream into a computer?
It can probably not.
You have to render it first.
Maybe we do, we get a TV at the way.
I used to do these weddings where I would shoot pictures and then they'd go up on the screen, right?
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
Usually it's just some DJ kid taking pictures and doing it and they look like garbage.
but I was you know I would send me in these weddings and like I wouldn't be the main photographer
eventually I became one but I just worked with this DJ and he just sent me to like the bride's house right
and he'd like discuss it with the bride but not the photographer who just spending like five grand
or whatever and like they're like you and I'm whatever I'm whatever I'm whatever I don't have I don't have
the materials to sell my my pictures yet my wedding stuff I haven't shot weddings at this point
what I did was for very poor people who had very it well it didn't look great I mean it
I'm not blaming them.
I'm just saying.
Do poor people have just worse lighting surrounding them at all time?
First of all,
by poor,
I mean,
people who don't want to drop 80 grand on a wedding.
Right.
So,
I mean,
let's just call it what it is.
But that's the market you try to get into.
You can't do a,
like,
some backyard wedding,
you know,
where there's like tires in the backyard.
And then,
you know,
serving shrimp in the hot burning sun.
Yeah.
And also poor people just look worse in photos.
They do.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's like second marriages,
which is fine.
But,
like you know everyone's you know no one no one look comfortable no one no everyone's very sweaty
so a point is they would send me on the you know he would send me in these these jobs and i would
just show up at the bride's house i think he'd do the videos the video guy comes of course and the
photographer doesn't care you get a video guys there get your shot whatever uh but i'm here
like what are you doing here i'm on the zap shot photographer and then uh so i would like you know
and he'd put the pictures on the screen but i but like the guy bought like like
My boss bought like a really serious camera equipment.
I had like, you know, Canon, L-series glass.
It was expensive thousands of dollars.
So I'm holding this shit.
He said, what's your game?
What's your deal?
Because he's trying to sell pictures, right?
Right.
You know, he's trying to send them the proofs,
then you buy these albums.
Try Gary Fonging, this couple up, you know?
Trick him into making a collage.
And so they hated me.
I was just espies by, like,
it's the worst way to make contacts in the business.
And like, but I was good.
So they would go up on the screen.
and then they didn't like it because it was good and I proved my medal
sometimes they were like you know they were they would come around and go you're
actually are right but one guy was really mad because like I was up on a I was in
in the it was a really crowded like yacht club building you know and there was a huge
crowd of people and they were like I was just trying I was in there in the
midst you know in the in the shit you know just getting shots during the first
dance and he I guess was up in the corner
where there's like old medium format camera on the stool
and he comes up to dance
like I think it's like shots
he goes I just want you to know
you're in every one of their pictures
is completely ruined I just want you to know that
I didn't know there were these like warring gangs
of photographers
they usually isn't I was creating a whole new
yeah it's like games in New York
where like a bunch of firemen show up
for the same fire
so my point is
can we do something like that with a deep fake
there's a long way to say that
Right, yeah, yeah, deep fake, yeah, kind of instant, almost instant deep fake.
It has to be rendered, we have to do the dance, and then we have some whiz kid, like, you know, on the computer, like, you know, while people are eating cake, and then, like, a half hour later, it'll show up, and it'll just be a really badly rendered, like, whoever, like, you know, your uncle, Uncle Clark, who died of a skiing accident, and he's just, it's just him Photoshopped or whatever.
under my female cousin's body if she's the proxy.
Well, I wouldn't be dancing with Clark either way.
So, I mean, you'd be.
Right, I would be dancing.
Wait.
We'd get a man.
I mean, look, I don't want to get into a whole gender war here.
But I mean, I guess anyone can do anything.
But I would prefer in this case to get a man.
So it doesn't.
Right.
So that's not as jarring.
Yeah, Clark isn't, you know, because Clark wouldn't wear dresses.
Yeah.
So it wouldn't be, it wouldn't, in the interest of plausibility.
I would be canceled for this.
You, how dare you assume a man wouldn't want to wear a dress as nieces's wedding?
You slob of a fat boy.
We're very inclusive.
I mean, we don't have to limit the death table to just our relatives who have died.
I mean, what you want to go into?
I mean, who died today that you told me about the guy who played the movie studio boss in Barton Fink?
Michael Lerman or something?
Yeah, Michael Lerner.
Can I do a tribute to him?
Can I do a whole tribute of dead people I admire?
Yeah, sure.
Okay, so it'll be Stanley Kubrick.
I'm of an iPad playing Kubrick movies.
I'll have Paul Walker from Fast and Furious.
Ryan Dunn from Jackass, both two great men cut down their primes in fast cars.
Remember Ryan Dunn?
Oh, yeah.
I'm a Jarvis friend.
He's getting honored.
Maybe Bam will show up to the wedding.
If we tell Bamar Jarrett that we're going to do a tribute to Ryan Dunn at our wedding, would he come?
I don't know, but I would, I mean, if he doesn't, it's kind of disrespectful to his dead friend.
It is.
I mean, I saw him once.
I held a door for him, I think, or I just got startled opening the door at the butcher shop where I work.
He was walking in as I was leaving.
And, you know, whatever.
I mean, you know, it wasn't like meeting Al Pacino.
He didn't have the same kind of poise.
but but whatever i mean he's he's wait but you actually met up you introduced your no i'm
hello i love the thing you did that made you become a it ruined your life um do you imagine
what if we get john do you think you think johnny knoxville might show up because margar i don't know
i feel like he's i feel like johnny knoxville is a better person even though bad margar was
closer to that guy i feel like we sent this letter with johnny knoxville he might be like you know what
I'm a man of the people and then he then he gets there we convince him to like nail himself to a cross or something you know can we get is that possible I mean he's there anyways if we look I appreciate you being here I mean I went on my way to honor your friend these people don't care about them the guests yeah you got get something to them you know so maybe maybe you can kind I have these nails and his hammer maybe just I mean I'm not saying you have to like these aren't big nails you know these aren't like they aren't nine inch nails like Jesus.
just you know supposedly got nailed with right they're just you know framing nails you're
not gonna be stuck to the cross we're just nailing it nails your ham but is the idea
that this is something that like like similar to what he would do on jackass
i think it's more of a stevo thing probably and he wouldn't do that but i mean you know it's
yeah i don't know if they would necessarily i mean maybe they would actually maybe they would
crucify themselves look i mean give him 10 years they're running out of ideas yeah but
here's this is a bargaining position and he goes look i'll just uh i'll just uh i'll just
just, you know, rub a rock on my dick or something, you know, like, I don't want to do the cross thing.
You just, you start high, so he, like, he'll feel, but he'll want to do something.
Come on, you're a showman.
Aren't you a showman?
Now, is this still somehow related to the honoring of the dead, dead people, or is this just entertainment?
Well, he's there anyway, so what we're going to, like, lose the opportunity?
Right.
I mean, he's there because I'm honoring Ryan Dunn.
Do you like honor Ryan Dunn to get Johnny Knoxville there?
You know, one of the jackasses, yeah, that was the idea.
But I also love Ryan Dunn.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, he might have done bad.
Who know?
I'm not going to, maybe, maybe it's best to keep that in the dark.
It's never occurred to me that anyone should have to vouch for like the moral, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
Fiber of the jackass guy.
Sure.
Yeah.
But what if I honored Stalin?
I mean, there is a, you know, he's dead.
There's still, it's not great.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's complicated.
Can I get a Stalin thing?
Can you honor Stalin at the death table?
I'll make it clear that it's just
I mean look it's the volume of people
that's becoming a concern more than Stalin in particular
I mean is this going to be its own separate death table
or is there going to be or is Paul Walker's picture
going to be next to my dead mother's picture
like what's going to be are there going to be two death table
or are they all getting combined on one?
I mean your mother
you think your mother's better than Ryan Dunn or Paul Walker
was your mother a movie star?
Not necessarily no I mean I don't think she would
would be if she was sat at a table at a dinner party uh rest her soul you know god bless uh and like
you know next to like you know paul walker i would she'd be like excuse me i don't sit next to
a beautiful attractive movie stars no no i think she'd be happy to be sat next to pa that's a great
that's a great you know he died young but he and there's nothing there's nothing to say about him right
maybe he was maybe he got a little reckless while he was driving this conflicting story maybe he didn't
Maybe his friend was driving.
It doesn't make him a bad guy either way.
Yeah, you know, you're right.
Yeah.
Paul Walker.
I want him to.
Paul Walker gets front row for sure.
I'd like to maybe bring him into the main room, actually.
Now I'm thinking about it.
The main room?
Yeah, whatever.
It's going to be off in the corner somewhere.
But maybe we'll do like a pole walker on the dais.
We'll have a Paul Walker thing.
You know where we sit?
Everyone gives their toasts.
And we'll just have some Fast and Furious DVDs.
Do I?
Maybe there will be.
We can actually do that because, you know, we can have our own like a little sweetheart table.
But in between us, there will be sitting a cardboard cut out, a life-sized cardboard cut out of Paul Walker.
Ooh, if we're going to do that, because he also gets screech.
He died, too.
That's true.
Yeah.
He did die.
Yeah.
Dust and diamond.
I don't want to.
I mean, that's just the, I mean, you spend your whole life playing this nerd.
I mean, he made money off it, but he didn't, life didn't end well.
And I'm just seeing her calling him screech, like a scumbag.
Well, Dustin diamond.
It probably was a high point for him.
Sure.
I mean, when your life turns to absolute rubble and, and it's constant pain and constant turmoil and, you know, you're, you're battling demons of a life of childhood acting, uh, sure, that was the high point, I guess.
It beats, it beats the painful death by cancer, I guess.
Um, I don't want to speak for him.
Anyway, uh, do we, last thing.
can we set up candles?
We saw the wedding that we were at November
and there was just a table and pictures.
It was like, all right, this is fine.
Can we want up them and have like kind of a old school
like Italian church where people like the candles
and the pictures of the saints?
Can we do that?
Can we have like a bunch of candles
and like those weird things you put the candles out with
and a knife that you can do a little blood thing with?
You know, like with the motel, when they go like they slice their hands.
Just getting into the Santaria,
Or maybe we do a little sacrificing at the weather.
You get a pig or whatever.
I don't even think they get pigs for Santerry-year-old.
They just get like a pig heart.
Can we pick one person from the death table?
Maybe we could even like put little their names like in a little hat so that it's random.
We pick out one name and try and raise that person from the dead through ritual.
I don't I don't hate that.
Yeah.
I kind of like it.
uh get a slaughterer slaughterer of uh chicken now we're not now we're doing this anyway here's
thing i i've talked before about how we worked at the more we find like a heart right
a cow's heart and someone would like had cut it open put a piece of parchment paper inside and
so it up so like we had like i take pictures while they were you know examining this and there's
people's names on it's a curse i don't know can i do that with my vows
for the ceremony can i have kind of pull a pig's heart
out and then cut it like cut open the sutures and then rip out the parchment and say
Lucy when I first met you I was uh mesmerized uh you were you were as beautiful as a pig's heart
something like that maybe I don't reference the pig is a little on the nose uh a thousand
a thousand and one pig hearts couldn't couldn't stack up as high as my love for you
it's a little less direct yeah can i can i can i do the vows have to be pig heart related i feel
like the spectacle of you cutting them out of the pig heart kind of like it kind of sells what
you're trying to sell all right fine deal i won't reference the pig heart
and that's how you negotiate see yeah you start high he's like can i bring up and you bring it
i don't want to bring up pig hearts but she agreed to it because at least i'm not saying pig heart
10 times during my speech and now i get to bring a pig's heart out and cut it open and it's just
It's magnificent.
The majesty of it.
Yeah.
It sends chills down my spine.
Your master.
I should not be a failure.
I don't know why I am.
It's not negotiating, apparently.
It's something else.
Anyway, moving on.
What is going on?
There's a story here about a teacher in Florida who has been fired.
swiftly, swiftly fired.
And you would think based on the recent news that what were they doing?
They were telling kids about, you know, hey, what's your gender?
Yeah.
What do you like to?
Let me look at what you got down there and then tell me you're something different.
There's no such thing as a man.
There's no thing as a woman.
You're just a blob.
When you're 30 years old, you can pick.
Whatever.
You think it would be something like that.
Yeah.
Based on hysteria.
I'm not saying that happens.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That's not what it was.
No, something different.
This is why I so surprising.
Let's bring this up.
This teacher was let go or fired.
Does it matter?
Oh, this person, the story says not only were they fired,
but they were fired within hours of doing this.
So plausibly they did it at the middle of the school day,
and by the end of the school day, they were fired.
Let's see how reasonable this person.
I mean, maybe this is unfair.
Florida teacher fired for asking students to pen obituaries,
for active shooter drill.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I got to tell you, I don't think that's a great idea.
I don't think it's great either.
I mean, so what, these kids,
apparently, let's let's read something as article.
Let's not speculate.
But also it weirdly seems like something you would do
if you were a teacher.
Sure.
I think this might qualify as a cump move.
Well, that's interesting.
Well, let's read this,
but I will respond to that once we see the details,
because I see, before we start, can I see myself asking students to write their obituaries?
I just feel like writing your own obituary is a very, a very vain move.
I would never do it myself, and I would never add, like, I don't like writing, you know,
I don't like writing the description of the podcast.
I think if you look up, you know, the about of the podcast, I think it's still like,
Ray come work to the morgue in the prison, and you go to politics and stuff.
I mean, I just, I don't boast.
Right.
But that's the only thing to keep me from forcing children to imagine their death.
Because otherwise, I like the idea.
Let's see, what we got here?
I could just imagine you doing it,
but probably even more urgency than this teacher did it.
Yeah, it was just like, write your obituary's kids
because you're going to die today.
They're just trying to get really into the world of the story,
you know, the story of the active shooter drill.
Right.
Okay, so, I mean, is this an English teacher,
Or is this like the shooter's real
It sounds like a real English teacher thing to do.
Yeah.
It seems, I'm not sure what was trying to be taught there.
Except maybe that like,
I mean, what lesson could you even learn?
Are we saying like, are we trying to blame the kids
who do get shot?
Right, it's like, you better really imagine
what it would be like if you were dead
so that, you know, you try extra hard not to get shot.
Right.
Yeah.
Don't go.
Don't be a lazy bones about getting shot at.
If you have the opportunity,
to run at the shooter while he's pointing the gun at you maybe do it i mean it's better you than me
that's what they're saying i guess i don't know what they're but let's take a look at the article we have
right in front of us yeah a florida teacher who is fired from his school after asking his students
to write their own obituary as in advance of an on-campus active shooter drill says he has no regrets
about the assignment oh i love it wow that cost him his job quote it wasn't to scare them or make them feel like
they were going to die, but just to help them understand what's important in their lives
and how they want to move forward with their lives and how they want to pursue things in their
journey. The dismissed psychology teacher, Jeffrey Keen, told NBC News. I mean, first of all,
is it a high school? Is it a high school? Yeah. I mean, did you have psychology at your high school?
I don't think so. That's a strange class I have in high school. Yeah. Maybe it was an elective or
something, but I'm not sure. I don't think so.
it's a very it look it's it's one thing to say hey i i didn't you know this is not what i intended
i think it was taken out context i have no regrets i mean just just like this was a great idea
no one in the i mean who would agree with this guy what is the value let's let's keep going
this is a fascinating man what's his name geoffrey keene jeffrey kean we got we should get jeffre keen
in the show kean's dismissal once again has cast a spotlight on the persistently
bizarre decisions within the public education system of Florida, which has banned discussions
of gender and sexual identity and classrooms, but whose Republican extremist governor,
Ronda Santis.
Yeah, NBC News is being pretty pointed about this.
Sure.
I mean, what happened to, the objectivity, like, you know, the Iraq War is good.
Stanchly supports keeping the guns which help fuel school shootings across the country
as accessible as possible.
I mean, a lot of assumptions.
It seems like editorial.
I mean, look.
Yeah, it's pretty.
I don't, look, I'm not, you know, some second amendment, like, you know, uh, superstar.
I'm like, but whatever, but like, you know, but I think, whatever, I think is, is, is, is, can you do stuff with gun control to, the, to stop someone this?
I think it's possible. Um, it's, we should definitely have a discussion, perhaps, but whatever, if you, if you, if you, I'm not going to argue that now, but to, uh, to just, I mean, immediately just declare, they're fueling it.
I mean, it's, it's a, for journal, for, for an op-eds, one thing,
but this is, like, supposed to be NBC, I don't know.
Right.
I mean, I-
And also, it's like, let's be honest,
it's not just the availability of the guns that's fueling this.
Of course, it's not the only thing.
The media has kind of fueled it.
The mental health crises have kind of fueled it.
Like, it's all kind of part of, like, it's like, right.
Yeah.
No, yeah, 100%.
And so, um, it seems like a nod that, yeah,
I don't know what, what happened to journalism.
Oh, I do.
Yeah.
I was alive for the past 15 years.
yeah anyway we know exactly right it's been about this bad for about 10 years
yeah and then the 2000s weren't much better yeah according to nbc kean learned that his 11th and
12th grade students at dr phillips high school in the orlando area would be rehearsing how to
respond to a shooting attack rehearsing that really i mean i guess that might be the word but it seems
odd.
Okay.
Practicing maybe.
I mean, rehearsing.
I guess you can rehearse a drill, but it seems odd.
Weird choices all around.
We should really have more funding for musical theater, active shooter drills.
I mean, do you remember when those guys would come to, like, those group, did you
remember a group come to your school, like a traveling troop of like?
Yes.
Yeah.
I forget what they were called, but they were like, do like drunk driving things.
Oh, oh, ours was just like shitty Shakespeare actors.
Oh, no.
We'd have these guys.
I don't know what they're, I think they were just hired.
I think they were, like, trying to be actors, probably.
But they would come and they would do, like, these, like, skits about, like, drunk
driving or drinking on a party or premarital sex or whatever.
I don't know.
What would they be like, like, like, you know, remember any of the details of them?
No, it's a typical, like, you know, like, it's just like a very special episode of
saved by the bell, for instance.
You know, like, we're, you know, ooh, the pills.
I'm so excited, you know, well, that was happening.
Would they be pantomimiming everything?
Yeah.
Yeah, oh, there'd be a lot of panda mind.
Oh, God, oh, terrible.
They were, it was like a black box theater, but in your school.
Oh, yeah.
That's disgusting.
And, uh, so they, they should get those guys involved.
Like, is that what they're referring to when they see rehearsals?
Yeah.
Maybe.
It would be great if the active shooter drill, they stopped actually, like, you know, doing it like a fire drill.
Right.
And, yeah, they just made it a performance.
That would be more useful.
Yeah.
And who gets to play the shooter?
a young a young uh i mean like this could be someone like the next the next uh who's that kid
not kid anymore i always bring him up shallomay the next salome could be could be performing as a school
shooter in some in florida in some florida school and he'd do a monologue about how he's uh addicted
to porn women beckies and what beckies and stacy's stacy's and beckies won't touch me this is the only way i
could make my life matter.
I don't know.
You know, like,
we try to make it, like,
I mean, these people are never, like,
they can't even,
most of these shooters I imagine
can't even speak properly.
You know, they can't communicate well.
I mean, look,
I could be speaking on a turn here,
but I imagine that a lot of these people
who feel they need to shoot,
I need,
a man, shoot something,
aren't probably the most,
uh,
easy to talk to.
They're not the most,
they're a conversational flare,
perhaps.
not been i mean you think i'm wrong there you think the kinds of people who would do
shootings yeah yeah oh yeah i'm sure they're not like yeah right so my point usually the
reviews of them seem to be some mix of them being outcast but also being bullies right yeah yeah
yeah yeah my point is i i don't know that the uh shakespearean monologue is going to be accurate but
it'll be nice yeah it would be like it would still be cathartic for the kids sure
catardic
yeah
are we showing us
the kids who like
survived shootings
are we going to the parkland
and be like hey so uh
on an anniversary
we're gonna do this
if any of you want to play
yourselves in the thing
let us know we might
obviously if the trauma
is too raw we totally understand
but would you want to participate
in a in a theatrical reenactment
not speaking parts
those are for the actors
but we really think it would lend it some
authenticity if we have real victims plus you know just like it would just shield us a bit
survivors sorry I meant to say survivors oh you can't say victims yeah yeah I think I
oh I wait are you not allowed to say it or is it just not accurate if I if I if I
called like David Hodge a victim of a school shooting would he be offended or like
I mean he would probably like there's trauma involved would he call you you
pig it's so that's such an uninclusive word it makes me seem like I I you know I was helpless
I'm a survivor like all right um take a selfie anyway so what happened let's let's keep you
on with it um the murder's at all right sorry anyway okay just a week earlier
an intruder shot and killed oh okay all right wait did i lose it oh yeah rehearsing how to respond
to a school shooting attack this prompted him to ask his students to write their own
biographical obituaries as classwork reasoning that the assignment would cause them to reflect on
their lives as they prepared to undergo the active shooter drill why do you need to though what
is that like what does that help with like why are you're like because people tend to fix
that usually when people are thinking about
what their obituary would read like,
they tend to fixate on what they haven't accomplished.
You know, it's like, it's like, you know,
high schoolers have a lot that they haven't experienced yet.
So it is kind of like, it's a weird, backhanded, like.
It's also just unhelp.
I think, look, I don't know what I would do in a situation.
I'm not going to speculate.
You'd like to think you would take action.
Sure.
Right?
By slightly informed opinion would be that people who do take action, right?
whether it's like you know successfully hiding or sometimes there's one guy a couple years
or two ago who like he and he died but he tackled the shooter and he got shot right but he's
saved everyone uh i don't think there's a lot of like you know i i think you do it kind of instinctually
and i don't have to take away from it but it's more like you have that you're not like sitting there
going wait i you know when i when i was nine i uh i i i won a fishing award a boy scot fishing trip
and that was really nice
and then I also
I was in that basketball tournament
where we lost but I got most improved
so now I'm gonna attack
I'm not I mean like it's stupid
you just like some people
just have the ability to like
do what needs to be done
yeah it's probably like it probably
is kind of like a primal thing
it probably depends on like
it probably is connected on some level
to like how your like earliest ancestors
survived
sure yeah yeah most people
and look and if you're
you're trained which students usually aren't yeah i mean like a lot of these training for people
who like do this kind of work cops or whoever are soldiers like no they have to beat this into you
like over and over like how to you know like you're going to be thinking about your obituary and
then that's going to help you like you know running someone with an achay or whatever they use
right before right right before he shoved a grenade in my mouth i was thinking about this girl i had
crush on who said it was a fat turd do you remember seeing this I think it was a vice thing
like it was like a story about this like private school that like a huge part of their curriculum
is just like training all the kids for an active shooter drill but like to respond in like mob
formation that's we're basically like all the little you'll like I don't know maybe I'll see if I
can find the video of it but it's like you see these like you see this video footage of them
like doing an active shooter drill.
Yeah.
And literally like all the littler kids will just start swarming the shooter.
And then like all of the bigger kids will like be grabbing guns from like different locations
and like shooting.
Oh, they have guns.
Yeah.
So it's like this big like a swarm attack.
Well, the fact they have guns.
So like they're basically, all right, look, the little kids are fodder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the idea.
But that is like they are kind of using the smaller kids as fodder.
I mean, I imagine some scenario.
I think about where like you throw out.
you throw a can of soda, for instance,
a way, like in a different direction,
and he looks the other way,
and then by the time he turns around,
he sees you and shoots you.
No, I'm like, whatever.
I mean, you try, but, yeah, just swarming.
I mean, like, at least my, my fan,
weird fantasy is, like, diversionary tactics.
Right.
Their idea is just, no, no, like, that is implicitly,
like, some of you will die.
But whatever.
It's so bizarre.
I mean, it's not the worst idea
on one level.
I mean, you can see how you could, with that strategy as a school, like, detain a shooter
very quickly.
It's just so bizarre to look at.
I know that the Constitution enshrined this.
So don't at me.
I get it.
I'm just speaking as a disinterested observer.
It's a little interesting that, like, we will never do anything about going to even try.
Maybe it won't work, but just try something.
No, but we will, hey, shove the kids at him.
this might be the answer.
I think before we ban guns, let's try this.
How many six-year-olds would it take to knock over a shooter?
Now, keep in mind, he'll be shooting at them.
So it's kind of like, it's kind of calculus or something
where you have to like constantly, like,
I mean, I never got that far math
where you have to, like, adjust for the things
that are changing in the moment, like trigger.
I don't know.
It's like graphing calculators.
That's how many kids would die.
There's a graphing calculator issue.
um so i don't know what's the tangent of dead kids um it's very interesting i i i applaud them for i mean
i don't want to get into like the weird macabre of it i mean wouldn't it make it easier in some
way isn't part of the like because they have to keep going around these locked classrooms and
like shooting through the window or something right i mean if you just have a bunch of kids swarm him
wouldn't he just like I mean you know yeah I mean you would think that like I'm always
surprised more people don't die in these things that's not me hoping I'm just it just
seems like if people have enough rounds to kill like you know a thousand puppies and
whatever I don't know how these things I don't watch videos of it so what you found
I think I found it let's take a look it's really well train for a bunch of um high schoolers
and hoodies
so i guess some of the smaller kids this will get this will get this will get us knocked off okay
it's uh the parent company we'll show that on another it's a well it's what you imagine
but it's what you imagine it's a bunch of kids who look scared and someone's yelling run at the gunman
yeah i mean why aren't you a better militia
they're not they're not doing like you they're not serpentine serpentine you know
Yeah.
They get French.
I mean, they can barely get soldiers.
This might not be accurate anymore.
But I know there's a famous quote from World War II era where like 10 or 20%
it's some small number of people who are of soldiers actually fired their gun meaningfully
in battle.
Like a lot of them will just kind of shove it over your head and spray or just like kind of hide
and, you know, shoot, just like a shoot, you know, just like a shooting shot.
It was a thing.
And so my point and they had to like, you know, learn how to, you know, mind.
control them better and like and beat them down so they became you know killers uh and those are like
grown men who are in the army with guns i don't i don't know how you get a kid to like run out you know
run out of shoot but i mean and now do we get guns no no that's the bigger kid so they're gonna run
at the shooter no you run they get guns you run up the shooter that seems that seems
it should be the other way around no because they don't understand combat they're in the range
position you're the melee ones else we get hammers and no no none of that you're what
we call bullet catchers right I'm not the army doesn't even do that right the army
wasn't like I mean they'll give you a gun you might be fodder but you'll get a gun
yeah I mean there are like desperate I mean yeah there are like times oh yeah
even the fodder gets a gun no look I mean they're yeah Soviet Russia I think
they would have like got you know two guys got a gun when the first guy died
you don't pick it up but like that's
not we don't model our armies after you know yeah the soviet uh soviet union even like look they did
they did they did the number on hitler i guess good for them so oh what this starts so what's
going on with this guy again let's let's just finish this up okay yeah um this is quote this
isn't a way to upset you or anything like that keen recalled telling his class of 35 students
he added if you can't talk real to them then what's happening in this environment unquote
just one week earlier okay so this comes on the heels of the shooting at the
Covenant Elementary School in Nashville no you say RIP yeah doesn't feel good
enough feel like I say more go ahead rest in ecstasy
what kids what no I meant like spiritual ecstasy sure I was just saying like I get
that I mean this in this political climate you got that you don't want to
It's fine.
Excee is better than peace, right?
It's fine.
We don't have to cut it.
I'm just saying, you know.
No, the Bible says ecstasy, I think, sometimes.
Yeah.
It's just, yeah, it's just whatever.
I think of it as like the, like, the Michelangelo's ceiling or something.
Is it Michael, is it Michelangelo?
Maybe it's Michelangelo.
No, you could be right.
I don't know.
I didn't know if you knew something I didn't know.
I feel like I've heard it pronounced both ways, but.
When you say Michelangelo, I just think a Michelangelo Bulture.
it later became apparent that someone was obsessed by that someone was upset by keen's assignment
by second period that day keen said some of his students revealed to him that they had been
interviewed by school officials about the obituaries and in the middle of seventh period he was
told that he'd been fired from his job which he had started in january
the three months on the job that is very that is swift this reminds me of when i was in
college a history class um there was a teacher who um it was like it was like
revolutionary war era history kind of and uh he goes i guess i got something it was like a
once a week lecture the night like six p.m. class maybe twice a week he comes in uh he goes i
has to go run in my car i have a proper to these lecture and whatever dude okay um he comes
back about five minutes later or so
with a
he's got a you know a winter coat on
like I think a little cap and
uh
well on his shoulders is a large
rifle
like a civil I guess a revolution like a musket
I guess but I mean
would I know it was a musket
I you know if you happen to look at the top
sure whatever and he says laughing
uh some kid just saw me in the hallway
and ran the other way
and I guess we laughed
I think we're, I think even us, we now look at each other, all right.
Now, keep in mind, I forgot a detail here, about three weeks after 9-11.
Oh, my God.
So, about 10 minutes later, this is a knock at the door, it's cops.
Oh, my God.
And he is in front of our eyes arrested by the cops, not dragged the guy.
I mean, escorted out of the building.
We kind of followed him and watched him get put into a police car.
and he's like, get home, you guys, you just go home to save, okay, guys.
And he was back to next week, though.
So that's the weirdest part of it.
Wow.
I mean, I don't know if they charged him.
Of course, he didn't do anything wrong, but he did.
It's just an insane thing to do.
I mean, put it in a gun case.
It's a weird thing to not call in ahead of time.
Call ahead.
Tell the dean, get clearance for it, maybe have a gun case.
for i mean it's a rep i think it's an heirloom maybe it's a maybe it's a replica but either way you probably
probably i mean at least from the way you're telling it it seems like he he he was enjoying the
spectre of course of course he liked the idea that like you think i'm doing something wrong with i'm a
teacher it's like well uh this is a police car get in oh that's great so um yeah what is
NBC, he was too new of a hire to qualify for membership to the local teachers union.
So he has no administrative method available to seek reinstatement to his job.
Do you think you would get it?
The school district statement also knows that Keen was still completing his post-hiring probation.
I mean, I've been on probation before.
It's a stressful time.
You know, when you're on probate.
Like, you know, there was a mortgage.
It was a probationary period, right?
Like, you don't, you know, you screw up once.
I mean, it's not like that bad, but, like, you know, you want.
it's the kind of thing when we were a teacher i mean he's not even talking about tenure but just
probation like no you you watch your peas and cues that's wrong yeah right yeah for sure
you're not watching your peas and cues you're telling children to imagine their death um this
i mean this guy we have to get him on the show is this missile could be implemented more swiftly
than for a teacher who has furnished a trial period sure i want to hear some of these obituaries
i would love to uh i don't think i did anything incorrectly i mean
I don't think I did anything incorrectly, Keen-Told Network.
I honestly didn't think a 16, 17, 18-year-old
will be offended or upset by talking about something we were already talking about.
I mean, I don't like to coddle the youth, right?
And what Columbine happened while I was in high school.
I mean, partly, this might be partly to blame why I got kicked out high school,
you know, from the frenzy over that because the misunderstandings.
Because people, you know, after that, people were like,
we're not taking any chances.
I didn't do anything, but whatever.
right point is these kids you know i don't like to coddle them but they do have to grow up in
the era where it's a much more likely situation sure so for the fact that something i mean how old
this teacher is maybe he also grew up that way it just seems like a god uh look what are you some
little bitch can't imagine getting shot by an assault rifle
it's not even an assault rifle you idiots you think it's an assault rifle but it's not even know
It's a semi.
You don't even know what an assault rifle is
and you're crying about imagining your death.
Imagine me a kill and you don't even know what killed you.
I think that's an assault, you little idiot.
There probably is also nowadays, like, just like a thing.
Like, there probably is like,
there is probably a new,
relatively new sensitivity around, like,
asking teenagers to, like, fixate on death too much.
Like, it's like, because there probably is,
like, it probably maybe encourages some people to, like,
fixate on like suicidal or whatever like it's like Dylan Thomas is the reason people kill
themselves maybe I mean but yeah I don't know it was like reading reference I mean you might be
right maybe like it might be worse than like it maybe somebody like some adult found one of the
kids obituaries and it basically read like you know yeah I mean I think it would kind of like if I found
my kids oh his own notebook his self-written obituary I mean would I confuse that for a suicide note
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, I would say, hey, let's go see somebody.
And he might not know what he's talking about.
I mean, you know, who becomes a psychiatrist these days?
But I got to do my part.
I'm your dad.
He might, hopefully he's like more, he's like Robin Williams,
get well, hunting or something.
And not just some, some journeyman.
But whatever.
I kind of like that.
He's, like, he's, like, standing his ground so much, though.
I mean, well, this is kind of when someone, like,
you know, does something to a kid in a trial.
they're like, I, a kid asked me to.
And it's like, well, you know, that's not really a thing.
There's, and there's just like, no, usually, like, especially nowadays,
you'll see, like, some degree, like, small degree of self-reflection.
Right.
But it's just like, no, I did nothing wrong.
I could have worded it differently.
I could have, you know, maybe that's the parents or something, even if you didn't mean
that, like, oh, hey, this might not have been, how is that, look, if you're trying to get
your job back, which I know, you're not in a union, so you can't, I guess.
But, like, how does that help you?
How does it help you get hired when like, hey, so you had that, like, even if I, you come into me, I'm a principal.
So it seems like you had a misunderstanding there, you know, with the whole teacher thing, you know, just for my own identification.
What would you do differently just, you know, if you try, in a situation in the art school?
How would you maybe phrase it differently?
I would, I would ask them to, in more detail, describe the sensation of a bullet ripping through their heart.
and then the sweet release of death.
Ooh.
It's interesting.
I like this.
I would make it more got it.
Look.
Always more got to be honest.
It's kind of a hobby of mine.
It's writing novels about school shooting.
So I'm going to hire you.
I deal the same thing.
No, publishers are always like, who we want to read this?
I mean, you spend so much time describing how these child skulls are destroyed in various ways.
And they go, that's.
Because I'm raw.
Yeah.
I'm like Hemingway.
I'm dark.
I'm like Virginia Woolf.
You're hired.
Anyway, that guy's crazy.
Moving on.
Do you have anything else you want to say about him?
I don't think so.
I mean, this is a...
I'd love to get him on the show.
Me too.
I would love to just have him.
I mean...
I bet he's trying to make his case right now.
Maybe we could get him on.
We should, look, stay tuned for the next episode.
So we might have to, to survive in this podcast climate.
What else is going on?
What should we do?
Oh, so here's one, a Pokemon player.
We don't usually cover Pokemon on this show.
Oh, Pokemon.
Did you collect Pokemon cards as a kid?
No, I never, I don't think I ever bought a packet.
I had Pokemon Reds for the Game Boy.
I had a Game Boy pocket, the clear one that you can see electronics in it.
Pocket was a smaller one, but it had a sharper screen.
You could, you know, it was nice.
I like to get more pocket.
I had Pokemon Red, and I played it a bit.
And it was, I didn't see the big attraction.
I couldn't get into the show, really.
But whatever.
I, I know a bit about Pokemon.
Were you a big Pokemon kid?
I used, I loved collecting the cards.
Okay.
But I don't think I knew how to play with them at all.
Oh, okay.
I forgot you played with the, it's like magic of gathering.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
That's not my bag.
I just liked having all my little Pikachu's.
Right.
Looking at them.
They're so cute.
Like the same.
card? I think I had like 10
Pikachu's. Were they different versions of
Pikachu? Or they're the same card? No, they're all the same
beautiful Pikachu. You're just to trade them.
I wanted to keep them.
The whole
point, you can't fight. The
phrase is you've got to catch them all, not trade
some. Well, yeah, catch all the
different versions, not all of the
Pikachu's. I don't know much about this, but I know
like they have like weird, like
it's like if you're... Oh, no, I totally misinterpreted
at the point of time. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think
there's water, water monsters who
fire water and then electrocutes Pikachu maybe I'm ashamed to say I might know that I'm
pretty sure mine were my cards were all yeah that makes sense because my cards were all
little babies I never got the babies I never really got the big boys I don't understand
what that means you know squirtle versus whatever the grown-up squirrelal is oh they have
evolved they evolve right I don't know much about that I know they evolve I was pretty
young I don't I got the concept of it at all I was just like I like the baby
Pokemon's like unlike humans who were born in God's image I know Pokemon do evolve
but uh so but in this case a Pokemon player of uh i get was he was he a trading card player
these are oh these are pictures of Pikachu just like you were talking about yeah is what you had
okay well i guess so a teen Pokemon player was booted from a tournament after laughing at pronoun
question let's see what happens so teenager
Teenager
Teenager Makatron
Hopefully I pronounce that right
Detailed his disqualification from a Pokemon trading card game
Tournament in Charlotte after appearing to laugh
After being asked his pronouns by a judge
According to Tran's account on social media
He appeared to have made the judge
Of the six round uncomfortable by giving an awkward laugh
Upon being asked his pronouns.
first of all look i want to make something clear um trans people non-binary i've known them
not a ton i mean but you know more than some and uh i'll always you know unless you make a mistake
whatever you always use the pronouns they want now i'm not saying you know yeah if you don't want
do that i don't i can't force you to do it whatever but i always do i support using people
the pronouns people want I mean I don't know if I never had to call someone zir I'm not sure
if I would do it well but you know but I don't think I'd handle it I don't know if I'd handle that
well but they that you know whatever sure I if someone asked me what my I would I would just
not answer I mean I wouldn't start screaming at them but say what your pronouns what you get
come on why are you asking me my problem enough I get it there's a
a place for this but this idea we're like we're going to change the way humans interact now
and every interaction has a what are your pronoun like no right like it was it was a most of the
time you can tell if someone needs pronouns I think yeah if you feel like you should ask
beforehand uh you asked maybe their friend hey uh just want to confirm pronouns you don't do
in the middle of public thing hey what hey obvious guy who's obviously a guy yeah which i know is like
the worst thing you could say now but like come on right I'm not I guess
inclusive doesn't mean we have to completely reshape uh salutations right
what happened to salutations in this country I I like true I like my salutations
traditional right yeah I mean I think that like it's a it's always like it's a weird
line across where it's like like why should somebody you shouldn't be
able to enforce that somebody cares about themselves getting misgendered.
Right.
You know, like if you don't care, if people don't put, you know, I've heard like some
particularly weird people on the left, like, you know, cast aspersions at other people for
like you're not putting pronouns in the, for the person not putting pronouns in their bio or
something.
Right.
And it's like, as like some indication of like a lack of support.
And it's like, and it's like, no, like, look, on a personal level, if you don't care
about somebody like misgendering you or you just don't think it's likely to happen.
that's your business.
That's just as annoying as people who like,
the mere fact that they'll look at your profile
on Twitter for instance
and you have pro,
like you say something they don't like,
they'll go look at your profile.
Ah, do you have pronouns in your profile?
I mean, like,
it's just, on both cases,
just seems very try hard.
Right.
I guess the logic is that like,
well, if everyone asks everyone
that no one has to feel left out
or feel weird for bringing it up.
I think, look, that would be nice,
but it's not going to happen.
Yeah, look, it would be cool.
I guess it would be cool if, like, language,
if language could just be rigidly structured that way.
But, like, I don't know.
But also, like, obviously it wouldn't.
Like, part of what, I mean, part of what makes, like, you know,
language even possible is that there's, like,
a degree to which it's organic.
Yeah.
Like, you can have structured, like, changes in the language
when they serve a purpose.
Why are we stopping a pronouns?
How can, what is your participle?
What's your purpose?
Preferred participle.
I'm not sure what that means.
Yeah.
What is a participle?
I have no idea.
That's when you get to the real shit.
His pronouns are for fucking,
or for fucking amateurs.
I'm into particibles now.
You plebs haven't even experienced
the realms of identity that are possible.
I got commas you don't even know to do with.
Hey,
what are you going to do with this semicolon, bitch?
But yes,
this kid, I guess, laughed.
nervously. I mean, look, if he, if he started laughing and started, you know, making
trans, uh, uh, what the, you know, uh, slurs. Yeah, I might, I might, you know, that's not cooth.
Yeah, then fair enough. That's on cooth. Uh, but yeah, like this, honestly, this kid,
the door the occasion he did, by the way. Yeah, no, no, that actually, yeah, I'll just keep reading it.
According to trans account on social media, or anyway, I read that one, quote, on our way over to
the, to the stream area, the judge asked us for our preferred pronouns. This is,
Tran talking.
Or this isn't even in front of the stream.
No, yeah.
Oh my God.
No.
Yeah, this is just one uptight judge who like got him bounced, I guess.
Like, I thought like it was like it was kind of a, I assumed it was on like the stream or TV or wherever it was.
And it was like, you know, that's bizarre.
Okay, you go, keep going.
That's crazy.
I said, um, he or him or, uh, and I paused trying to think of the third pronoun, the third pronoun being his.
as I just stood there looking stupid
trying to think of the third pronoun
I felt embarrassed because I was failing
to think of a simple word
due to the nerves and me being embarrassed
I let out a little laugh
just a normal nervous laugh
my response together ended up being
he or him
or ha ha his
Jesus
he got banned for that
if he's telling the truth which
I have no reason this sounds pretty honest
yeah it sounds like something
I'm like, you know, it's more self-aware than usual high schooler would be, right?
Like, the idea, I, I, I, I, and high schoolers are, like, giggling little idiots.
Like, they kind of, the kind of kid who would laugh, like, aggressively, right?
Like, if he was, like, I got, and trying to cover it up.
I don't, I mean, I just don't, instantly don't feel like he'd be like,
look, I just felt like, I look at a real moron.
That's something I would say.
Yeah.
You know, like, I just felt like the biggest fat, dumbass in the world.
I just, I wanted to hang myself in front of everyone because I couldn't
remember his I said please god cut my cut my pig heart open um wow this is um he also described
a follow-up situation this guy's in high school he's 17 yeah I mean I come on no this is crazy
this is uh this is I don't know what um the problem is who you like I would love to to jump on the
side of like hey this shouldn't happen the only issue is like who we're teaming up with um in this
case fox news well not just fox do i just be like it'd be so much easier if like if like there wasn't
like a ton of people just uh call them all you know pedophiles and yeah yeah whatever i'm just saying
but this is insane this is literal insanity yeah this is like also yeah i mean i feel like i just
I mean you've experienced that to be true too right it's just that like teenagers in
particular they'll laugh at everything oh there's a kid I remember the original you've seen
the original scared straight it was when they brought they brought kids like high school kids
to a prison right and this guy and they had a reunion like back in the 90s or 2000s I watched
they showed the original and there was this guy uh who's getting in the face of one of these kids
like some opie looking kid you know some red-headed skinny kid gawky and like he was kind of like
you know it's not like they're really going to hit you but they get in your face and start
and starts like uh you bitch i'm gonna eat you know what i'm gonna do you if you come this prison
oh me and my boys we're gonna shove you into this corner we're gonna what i don't know it was
the 70s it might just say we'll rape you but uh and he was like kind of laughing a little bit
they got worse yeah you know and then escalated
And he's talking about it.
He's like, look, I was a kid.
It was like, now it was like 10, 20 years later.
I, I had this nervous laugh, which I didn't bring up just because I was so nervous.
But, like, you know, I have a nervous laugh.
And I gotten over it and I'm older.
But that's why.
So the guy, he thought I was laughing at him and his threats to rape me.
But I just, I laugh when I get nervous.
Now, maybe he's a liar.
I don't know.
Maybe he was just like, I'll never go to prison.
I'm, I'm from a good family, bitch.
or something like that and like you know whatever but I assume he was wasn't lying and I
assume this guy's probably not lying yeah oh and then there's like okay so there's one more
part to the story and he was laughing it seems like even if he was like what yeah I think
honestly the guy would hate me because I I think I support trans people whatever but like if
you ask him my porn I'm like I wouldn't even say he him like I'm good whatever whatever I would
just say whatever no what are you front of
I'm not answering that.
I'm just not offended by people using it.
I just,
the idea that I have to now say my, it just.
It's just like, it's just what's,
it's so annoying when people are just like clearly ignoring the obvious.
Right.
It's like, yeah.
This has to be everything now.
Right.
Like we know when we need them, we'll use them.
And also it's like, why are they doing this weird, like mini inquisition
right before they go to stream?
They're about to jump, dump a charzer on a squid.
bitch or whatever they're called hey by the way how do you identify by the way like
speaking to the mic and tell us your pro like it's like what this couldn't have been
filled out in an email form so two two I have a question in two parts one how what
method you did you use to evolve your squirtle and two at what age did you realize
that you were a man I'm waiting
No, this, and I, look, it's, who ran this fucking thing?
Honestly, I could see that becoming a thing.
Like, like, not only, it's like, not only could you list your pronouns,
but could you list how long you've had those pronouns for?
So, look, I mean, what, I thought the whole point was, like,
for people to care less about gender.
Right, yeah.
To be less, like, like, to be more pliable, to be more like, look,
it's usually a way things go, but sometimes it doesn't,
don't make a big deal about it, and people should do what they want, right?
As long as you don't hurt anybody.
And now it's just like, this is everything.
This is, before you feed your children,
I want you to write your confession,
your gender confession.
There is a little bit more to the story that's interesting.
So he also described a follow-up situation
where the judge once again asked him
and his fellow player Alex Schimanski for their pronouns.
Tran admitted that he laughed at the end of his answer
once again because of his nerves.
Quote,
the little laugh at the end
was because I was trying
not to be awkward
and because it's such like a teenager thing.
Like, I was just laughing
because I was trying about not be awkward.
That was a way just kind of awkward.
I was trying not to be awkward
and because I was just stating
the exact thing Alex had just stated
and it was kind of silly to me
in that scenario, Tran wrote.
So I guess he's referring to the fact
that he's being asked again to give his pronouns.
Which is kind of weird.
Yeah. The judge apparently
responded, quote, okay, just wanted to check to be safe. I go by they, them, so don't be a jerk
about it, unquote. I mean, I was never going to refer to you, but okay. I was never going to
think about you again after this moment. That's such, look, honestly, I'm thinking of trouble
for saying this. It's always a they, them. No, I don't mean. I would say, like, if you're,
You're like, I imagine it's one thing to get, like, to get labeled a,
to get misgendered as, like, I'm, I'm presenting as a woman, like,
and someone called me a man.
And like, let's not, let's cut the shit.
We all know people do that aggressively, right?
And I get, you know, I'm not saying people should be put in jail for that,
but it's shitty.
It's a shitty thing to do.
Even if you, even if you, even if you, you hate the idea of the, of transgender,
it's still, you must know it's a shitty thing.
You beat your, you're not being cool.
You're not being chill, right?
You're kind of being a dick.
You're definitely being a dick if you're on purpose.
Sure.
And so it happens by accident, whatever.
But like, if you're born a man and, like, someone calls you him instead of they, I don't know.
It just seems like someone who doesn't know you, like, don't be a dick about it.
It's such a weirdly aggressive thing.
It seems like this person, it's part of the fun of it all.
It's almost as if it's part of the fun.
It's like, I get to yell us.
I get to mistreat young people now.
It's almost as if making any given situation about you is kind of appealing to some.
I know you think that you're competing here, but I'm they, them.
So watch your ass.
Don't fuck with me.
And I love how it's like, it kind of does admit something that it's like, it's not inherently evil or anything,
but it does kind of admit something that I've always sort of suspected,
which is that the whole pronoun circle thing.
It's really exclusively for the benefit of they, them people most of the time.
Like to the point where it's like you're, it's not even really about trans people.
It's not even really about like, like, trans women and trans men.
It's usually on purpose, I feel like.
Yeah.
Like, but it's like except for in the case of they them because that's the one pronoun that's not like usually intuitive based on like anything physical.
And they just know, and there is no barrier to that.
Right.
I mean, there's no barrier to anything technically, but like, yeah, you could just, you just, you,
You could just not, you know, believe in the, in the theoretical nature of gender.
And that's what, whatever.
But it's like, it's like, it's like, okay, so this whole reconstruct,
this whole super specific reconstruction of the way we're introducing ourselves.
Yeah.
It's really got nothing to do with most trans women, nothing to do with most trans men.
It's got to do specifically with, like, non-binary, they, them people.
Like, you know, like this, the, it's like, so this isn't about trans women.
rights really um well i don't know how the umbrella nomenclature works but yeah i see your point
yeah how dare you say i'm not friends i don't know i don't know what these people um with this guy
or i'm sorry um they would they believe i was a dick i'm sorry anyway uh this kid and they uphold this right
After the encounter, Tram was confronted by the head judge prior to the game
who asked him exactly what he said to the previous judge.
Oh, my God, what a nightmare.
Oh, this is Brazil.
Terry Gilliams, Brazil.
Tran explained his answer while admitting that his nerves caused him to laugh,
leading the head judge to escort him off the game stage.
What?
He described, this is where it really escalated.
The head judge tells me that he was sorry and that sucked by,
which is disqualified due to Pokemon's.
What does that mean when they put sick?
not sure sick policy it's it's s i cc but it's kind of funny uh Pokemon sick policy at this point
i'm at the verge of tears but i tried my best to keep my composure i just couldn't understand
what was happening i mean look let's be honest if you're playing in a Pokemon tournament
you're not exactly like the archetype of gender normative behavior i mean or like you're not
you're not the uh the captain of the football team you know you're not you're not you're
not the homecoming king you got the quarterback you know right it doesn't mean you I'm just
saying you're already like this kid's probably not like the alpha male of his school you know
like he says this might be his only refuge from being like you know getting picked on himself for
various reasons uh maybe not look at this day and age maybe Pokemon players are the alphas I don't
know I imagine there's a good chance this kid's not exactly killing it socially right he goes to this tournament this is one thing
that he thinks will like you know give him esteem it probably doesn't work out that way most of the time
tries to tell like women maybe that like hey i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a pokey one guy yeah some other like
nerdy girl yeah yeah and then she's like uh all right cool uh but whatever he's going he goes and
this is one time to shine and uh this happens to he's he's just made he's met with a tribunal
oh man a goddamn gender tribunal because he didn't he couldn't remember the the the
third pronoun this is crazy oh man um did i did we read the rest of that paragraph
at this point i'm on the verge of tears but i tried my best to keep my composure i just couldn't
understand what was happening was the judge just not just not listening to anything i had just
told him was he trying to look at my side of the story at all no no
Trent emphasized frustration in the news repeatedly stressing that he had never had a problem
with using pronouns well it's like it's like you know I'm trying to think of the analogy here
it's like you can fire a gun in practice but not in real life I don't know I wish I had
Dylan Thomas said that the amount of frustration I felt and still feel is just insane I've
never been treated so unbelievably unfairly and had such an opportunity take just taken from me
for something I didn't even do the judge said which he believed I had no meant meant intention I mean look
even if I always got wait go fund me to do what help her fund his travel expenses as to the fund rate
I mean this kid raised $1,500 to go to a Pokemon tournament I mean the go fund me whatever I mean
but like yeah he paid $1,500 to go over a Pokemon tournament I guess so and they fucking disqualify
Jeez.
But also, like, that's crazy.
I guess they're making money at this, perhaps.
Yeah, I think the idea is maybe you win money.
I mean, it makes it weirder and worse on all levels.
Just this guy kept, I mean, one, because the guy kept,
the person kept them from making money, potentially.
But also just kids like, you know, making money of Pokemon,
which I don't like.
I don't know the idea of that.
If anyone, you know, earning money with Pokemon.
Keep it pure.
so that's crazy i don't know what to tell you uh we should wrap us up but i do want to uh cover one
thing quickly just because we burled up in the intro that's probably these intros we don't
get to something and it's like what and what was he talking about and it was kind of a strange thing
new york is under attack i said right oh yeah so i feel like we should because people what does that
mean right yeah so i don't want to leave that dangling uh we have a story
what what is this about is marjorie telegreen came to new york she came to new york she came to new
York to support Donald Trump during his arraignment oh right he was arraigned this week yeah sorry it
wasn't the lead story but you know how many weeks in a row is this this took so long
from the time we found out we i feel like every show over the past few weeks we've been like
teasing with like well trump's going to get the rest of tomorrow cares he went he went he took him
i don't know he went back to florida non story but marjorie taylor green got hers apparently
so let's see we'll go over this quickly
Measure Tled Green calls New York City disgusting, filthy, and repulsive.
All right.
George representative calls a city a terrible place after visit.
I mean, did you see Wicked?
Because you're not getting into Wicked.
Is that the problem?
What do you think about that?
What do you think about this lady?
This out of towner.
It reminds me of John Rocker.
I mean, he's what he.
Oh, I can't remember.
repeat what he said but like he was a baseball player um i think a pitcher who um well you got you guys
can look it up i feel like if i repeat what he said it was this is going to be a problem for the
censors it was it was it was pretty visible even so what am i going to go new are gonna sit in the dirt
filthy subway like some pregnant whatever and some uh joan and like a junkie with aids or
something oh man yeah all this it's like and worse things this is tame compared to that
yeah um so like i don't know i don't know why these people are trying to be like these like you know
shock comics but they can't even do what a baseball player does yeah that's what they based
kenny powers on i think is john rocker oh he's that first statement that's yeah that's great
yeah great show um rip who's dead one of the guys from the i forget his name but one of the writers
Sorry, we'll have them on the table at the wedding.
I'm sorry, I don't need to bring the mood down.
I compare it to what I called Gotham City.
What's the, I mean, I know they call it Gotham.
It's got like Gotham City.
Yeah, it's not your name for it.
It's not what I call Gotham City.
It's Gotham City, the very highly recognized comic book place.
Well, Gotham City is a comic book.
I mean, New York is sometimes called Gotham.
Yeah.
Like, but never Gotham City.
Yeah.
Idiot.
The streets are filthy.
They cover people basically dying on drugs.
They can't even stand up.
They're not covered with them.
They're around.
You know, I mean, I'm not going to lie.
You know, you can walk.
You walk over people occasionally.
It's a skid row.
They're falling over.
Sometimes people fall over.
Sure.
I've seen it.
There's so much crime in the city.
I can't comprehend how people live there.
Have you been to Halal guys?
You had the falafel.
It's fantastic.
so what if is it oh this guy fell down next to me and he's dying i can't eat a falafel
you're lost the blogger aaron ruper responded imagine if the i'll be quoting bloggers
imagine if the new york city progressive a oc went on msnbc and said this about a town in marjorie
teler greens district i mean enough with the calling people hypocrites yeah of course people
everyone's a hypocrite imagine what they would say so what you just just say what they would say
Just, why don't you just shit on Georgia?
Yeah.
Sorry, you know, people, you know, I'm sorry that, you know, people in our town know how to drink,
don't drink water out of a, the same jar that grandpa pisses in.
Just make stuff up.
Yeah, or just shit on her.
Like, it's like, I think you smell.
Yeah.
I bet your pussy smells like garbage.
What are you known for peaches?
Peaches fucking suck.
Get lost of your peaches, bitch.
That's why I would say.
I was a mayor of New York.
Is she from Georgia?
I didn't it say Georgia?
The Georgia Republican.
Oh, she, okay, all right.
Greening him to speak and park outside the courthouse of Manhattan.
She was jostled and drowned out by whistle blown by counter-protesters.
I think the, well, I'm pretty sure the whistle guy was a guy who was a pro-Trump guy.
you're just handing out whistles they were told at one point someone was like interviewing them and they were like uh
why you're hanging out these whistles like you know you're trying to get more of your chelle green like i don't know
what's got i'm something it's a day for whistling it's a day for noise and any day for talking
it was like they're for trump yeah but whatever i mean sure why don't get that right um so yeah
there's not much to say about this i mean it's just yeah look there's some dirt in the city
yeah it's a big it's the greatest city in the world doesn't mean what you would you if you don't have people dying on a
streets your city sucks we know the twin cities Minnesota Minneapolis you know
no one dies on the streets in the in a in white plains New York right yeah what's
no in Cleveland maybe Cleveland maybe Cleveland yeah that's just that's just a big
suburb yeah look they have a few buildings it's fine you know it's just like
look yeah who who who is building your your amazing culture you have in your
York if you don't have, you know, drug addicts dying and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, amazing
culture, like, uh, what's that, there's a new, there's a new Broadway play about corn.
Oh, right.
Uh, it's just called corn in the musical.
You don't get, you don't get corn the musical without a few, uh, heroin addicts, uh, you know,
popular dying on the streets on your way to work.
Yeah.
Those are all the, all the people, all the people, all the heroin addicts dying on the street,
those are the people who didn't get cast in corn the musical.
Yeah.
For all, every winner, there's got to be like 10 losers.
You like omelets?
Do you?
You know what I'm getting that.
Eat your omelet.
Shut up.
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