Kump - 153 - The Rich Men North of Richmond

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

Ray and Lucie discuss Oscar Anthony's Rich Men North of Richmond, Rachael Ziegler's Snow White controversy, Michae Ohr and the dark side of Hollywood accounting, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

On Kump, we're discussing the rich men north of Richmond, snow white and their discontents, the dark side of Hollywood accounting, and much more. Stay tuned. Come. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. How are you? I'm good. We got a lot to talk about today.

We do have a ton to talk about. There is so much going on in the world, I might leave it. If you know what I mean, I don't want to hurt the algorithm, but I don't know if I can stay on the world just full of great news. Content majeure. Is that a French? What does major mean? We should change our name for our podcast to content majeure. I think I like that I like it it's classy I think it's classy I think we could I think people would come to us and say hey what's going on with the country music boy content major knows what's going on with the snow white shut your mouth and go to content major come oh boy I feel like we stumbled all to something we've been a trademark the hats already people be what's content major it's gonna be on their asses like juicy remember those juicy

pants oh yeah just some fucking your stepdaughter wearing j and you can't say nothing because you're not her dad big blacky letters right on the ass yeah you talk your ex-wife or your current wife and you're like hey why why is my why is my uh well you didn't want her adopter well i don't want the legal hassle but i don't think she should be wearing juicy on her ass and it's hey it's none of your business you're not her father i don't even know why i married you you're a slob you don't take care of me in their way sexually that I like you know these just the things that you know the new wives say but is and stop worrying about what's on her ass okay I'm not worried and my daughter I don't care where she ends up got nothing to do with me I'll let her stick a fork

in the outlet what do I care I always felt like those letters kind of de-emphasize the ass like I feel like if you really had a really nice juicy ass you wouldn't want those letters on it well it may not look it may not first of all if you had real nice juicy you wouldn't be wearing those pants usually you know so it's it's for it's for it's for women who don't have the big juicy it just it's like just it's just an insert it's like hey just if you just call you just write juicy on it and then it's like it's like drawing in an eyebrow eyelash or something you know hey it's like yeah I want to juice the ass well solve the problem J you Y C Y C Y now your ass is juicy see

shut up let me watch the game it's a temp graph the game i mean a magic the gathering towards me on youtube i want to watch magic the gathering one of my daughter makes bad choices anyway uh content majeure welcome to content major welcome this is the dumbest may we feel like we should be we should be put in guantanamo bay um is that still open um no time uh there's a new we got moved this click click click you know yeah you can't change the channel if you like pump here's why I do want to promote if you like comp and you you know I'm Ray Kump this is Lucy

Steiner but we're buried whatever point is you know who we are if you want to see me live you have the chance I got to look at the date Tim Dylan Carnegie Hall he's gonna be I'm gonna be doing a live podcast at Carnegie Hall imagine that this guy he at Carnegie Hall yeah the same place where where Louis Armstrong did they I don't know I'm not sure it's a very how to get the Carnegie Hall people have played there how to get the Carnegie Hall be Ray Kump I will be after Tim Tim Dylan will be headlining Carnegie Hall on let's just check the date live at Carnegie Hall what is the date here it'll be November 10th in New York City and after his

his headlining set, his tremendous comedy set, Tim Dillon and I will be doing a live podcast after the headlining set. So if you would like to come see me live, this is your chance. You can see me in the flesh. You can, don't throw things at me. I'm a man. I'm not an animal. You know, I have feelings, but there.

So, you know, you get the live podcast. You get a tremendous comedy show from Tim Dillon, one of the biggest comics in the country. I think that's not a, I'm speaking out of a line when I say that. So there's that. So imagine me at Carnegie Hall. Now my dad's going to feel like an idiot. And yeah, and as always. I'm very excited for that. Well, you know, you should be. You're married to a man who's performing at Carnegie Hall in some fashion. I'm going to wear my finest pearls. Yes. You're only pearls, right? Inherited. Are those real? I always assume you got another like a like a like a some kind of backwards dealing. You think my, you think my angel mother would leave me costume pearls?

I didn't really admit. I never met her. That's because she's an angel. Right. Well, sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Also, as always, if you love the show, which of course, why wouldn't you? You can sign up for our Patreon at patreon.

At patreon.com slash Ray Kump. You get an extra episode every week for five bucks a month. That's pretty nice. We have hundreds of episodes on there now. So that's an option. Let's get to the content. That too much. Welcome.

We need a wipe for that. We need a transition. A lot of people listen on audio. They don't need the wipe. This video thing is very unforgiving. They just, they're like, we don't need to see you. We'll look at a juicy ass while we listen to you. Right?

There's some guy who's just walking around the mall, scoping all the juicy. see asses right and then you know that's a juicy ass and what's in his ear the cump podcast and that's what we got i'm not i'm not gonna you know take a shot at them just you know hey beat keep it above board buddy so there's a new speaking of the voices of their generation yeah there's a new guy what's what's this guy's name again oliver Oliver Jane Oh, Oliver Anthony Oliver Anthony. Is that his name here?

There's a man named Oliver Anthony. Now, I don't love country music per se. I do like some of it. I like, I don't mind some old Hank Williams. I like a little towns van Zant and things of that ilk, you know, a little from the heart will strip down. I don't like, oh, just the overly revered,

like, you know, hey, I want my chicken fried. Invake away on the still of the night. Let Saddam hang for his crimes. Whatever that song. You know, it's not my favorite. But if a new man, he's in the woods, I guess we could bring this up, right? This man, I don't know if he lives in the woods or he lives near the woods,

but he records his songs in the woods. This is Oliver James. We can play a few seconds of this, I guess. We don't want to play the whole thing, right? Yeah. But this is Oliver James. He's taking the world by storm with his song called The Richmen, North of Richmond. He's sleeping the nation.

We can discuss that title in a moment because I'm a little... Could be confused. I'm going to say I like this song. I think it's a good song. I've been selling my soul, working all day. Over time hours for bullshit pay so I can sit out here and waste my life away. back home and drown my troubles away it's a damn shame i mean it's good yeah we can't can we keep we playing this how does this work on youtube i don't know i mean i see everybody

playing it all over the place yeah whatever uh they have some kind of uh secret magic i think it's good i mean why is it getting so much like you know uh why are people getting so controversively about it what's the what is the well i think there's like a pretty there's a a theme to who's like who's really pumping the song and it tends to be people on the right are really pumping it but it's like but he doesn't also i feel like it is it is enjoying he wants more pay maybe he's for like a higher minimum wage that we considered that he says he might be he says he's completely center palat he said he's dead center i don't know why everyone in the political spectrum thinks that uh Oliver north i mean Oliver anthony is some kind of uh like just he's got a beard he's from appalachia i mean do you remember

I like his beard. I like that his beard is red and his hair is blonde. What do you implying here? Hold on. Let's bring this guy back up. I think it's an interesting look. What are you implying about Oliver Anthony? That is, for some reason, his beard grew red and his hair grew blonde.

Are you implying he's doing frosted tips? I think it's a little out of line. This is the voice of a generation, Lucy. He's from Appalachia. No, I just think he's... Do you know what Appalachia is? Have you ever heard of the Whiskey Rebellion? And Harlan County?

So you're saying these are, uh, he's a Harlan, I don't know, he's from Harlan, he's from Farmsville. He's from Virginia. Well, the parts of that are Appalachia, which is where Justified takes place.

We watch the show Justified. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it's great. I mean, his dad might be a coal miner. I don't know. Or his dad might be a lawyer for all I know.

I mean, an entertainment lawyer. Mm-hmm. What do I? He might not have a dad. Well, everyone's got a dad. He might, What kind of liberal shit is that?

It may have just been born from the earth. What is that? Some kind of a trans thing. The newest thing in the LGBTR, BTO spectrum, whatever it's called. This is now, now I'm a Gaia. I'm an earthborn. I'm Earth. No, this guy has a father.

He comes from seed. And, uh, what is the big, uh, controversy here? Why are people talking about him? Oliver Anthony's populist polarizing rich north. Why is it polarizing the Richmond north of Richmond on track the debut at number one? So this guy has just been recording these things on his phone up until I guess he did he did a real recording for this one.

These guys will steal guitar, which is nice. Yeah. What is that, Gretch? Those aren't cheap, are they? Gretch is kind of expensive. Looks nice. Working, man. What's that?

How much of the, look up how much of Gretch guitar. So what are you trying to create some money trail here? Imagine that was a $10,000 guitar? What would you feel? How would you feel? This is why he's polarizing because people like you were trying to follow the money. Well, I'm just saying, look, I'm just asking,

how would you feel if that was a $10,000 steel guitar? I would be like, I would want a $10,000 steel guitar. So would I. I mean, maybe, let's just look at Gretsch guitar. Gretch? I mean, Gretch might not. be that good i could be making this up grech steel guitar why are you trying to look in this man's pocket so much gretch steel guitar okay no it looks like it's like 650 or so that's fine that's a

reasonable now i mean it's not like he pulled it out of the trash which i like to imagine i like to imagine that this guy just pulled it out of the trash and he's like hey hey hobo get out of my trash what do you do with that old steel guitar he goes watch this He goes, I mean, look, I assume that he's like a real person with a job and the day job. He doesn't like his job. I don't think he's living in the ground like a, I don't think he's like a mole person. I would have preferred that, but I don't need that. I don't need him to be that, but that would have been amazing.

If he was like a Johnny Applesee type or John Henry, the guy who died fighting the iron machine. Died with a hammer in his hand. Yeah. I mean, he's not a, he's not a tall. he's a real man no he's just he's a singer-songwriter sure in the woods i mean if i find out he doesn't live in the woods i'll be a little upset according to data tracking service luminate from last friday to monday richmond north north of richmond has garnered 98,000 digital song sales i mean it's a little what is this why am i always getting these at screw

this now there's a couple the verses you you think the verses get a little weaker as they go along Look, I don't know if he expected this song to be the viral hit it was. I think he just wrote a song. I'm sure a lot of people like the second verse of the song. I feel like it might fall off the message a little bit. Let's see. Let's see. So is that about fat people?

I mean, look, it just kind of makes it sound like men are killing themselves because they're so disgusted by these fat people eating fudge cake in front of them for free. First of all, look, I would like to lose weight and be in better shape. Where could I get a bit of fudge cake? Well, it's a fudge round. Have you ever seen a fudge round? No, I've never seen a fudge round. That's pretty good.

Now, hold on. Now, I mean, I do think, like, I think this, the, it could, have been sung a little, the lyrics could be a little tighter for the fat guy lyric. Yeah. Celebrate people who can't fit on a plane. But I'm a working man in my fingers in pain because I play this guitar that I found in the trash. I never had a lesson. I've got a lot of gas.

You know what? I can see the merits of his verse now. like it's fine. You tell me, Lizzo is hot, but she clearly is not. That's good. Thank you. She make you eat a banana out of a strippers hole. Look, I'm sorry you're not a singer or a musician.

Here's how it goes. You tell me, Lizo is hot, but she clearly is not. She makes you eat a banana out of strippers twat. God damn it, why are you so much better than me? Living in a new world. that's that's how we i mean you're almost there i think i stole this line from you earlier i think i loosened the jar on that you loosen you loosen the jar that you blow into you know you don't know what i'm talking about the jar player in appalachian music bluegrass music

you're so uncultured in appalachia i would fit in so much better in appalachian than you i mean i don't i just don't understand it so i mean i think he's got a great look uh I don't know what that shirt's all about. There's a line about Epstein where he goes, I don't know where, here's a problem I have with it. There's a line where he sings, I don't want to scroll through the whole song to find it,

but there's a line where he sings something, the fact of, I wish you cared about minors as much as minors on islands. Yeah. Which is clearly, you know, in Epstein. It's fine. Now, like, I'll get to the other stuff in a second, but, you know,

Wikipedia, I noticed it in a wiki, I was looking this guy up in the Wikipedia and it says the song's lyrics where's this where's it go oh here uh revolve around common right-wing talking points themes of the song include inflation dollar inch well I mean sure high taxes child trafficking minors on an island and well welfare abuse uh the obese milking well oh that's what he was saying I can't I'm not good listen for some reason I don't hear every lyric on assault immediately. What bugs me is this.

A reference to politicians looking out for minors on an island somewhere led to speculation that Anthony was referencing the Q&N conspiracy theory, which revolves around the belief that politicians in Hollywood elites engage in child sex trafficking and other child abuses. Okay. Well, I don't know if QAnon came up with that. This is why, I want to take a moment. This is why, if you're into Q&on, I've always had to have.

problem with the Q and on thing because what do we have two or four years out from that right three years four years out from the whole Epstein Q and on kerfuffle and now clearly what they're doing i mean what did this there was a guy Jeffrey Epstein who had an island we all agree on this he had an island where he brought underage women and maybe men i'm not sure but at least women there for people rich people to have sex with them he was a hip right how is this How are you going to Q and on with this? This is the whole thing. Whoever, I mean, we all watched him die.

No one believed he killed himself. I never met a single person who believes he killed himself. I mean, whoever, look, and you have to imagine, whoever decided, hey, we should, we should really take care of Jeffrey. And you're, oh, everyone's going to be, everyone's going to know we did it. Like, hey, moron, do you want, do you want the Harlem Blobrodders and the cast of the Brady Bunch test? in congress i'm sure they weren't involved i'm just saying i don't know who who's accused point is no like you know whatever whatever politician whatever ex-president is gonna have to be like explaining their whereabouts it's like wouldn't wouldn't it be preferable just to have this

and then they built qanon and it's all gone no one anytime you bring it up it's qanon this is not qanon we know who did this he didn't say qan he didn't say get you know And we got to get Tom Hanks. And it's crazy that it's like, it's, if it was like Q&I conspiracy that, you know, political elites are kidnapping children and draining their adrenochrome or whatever they think they're draining from them.

Right. When they drink the blood. Yeah. Like, then I would be like, okay. But it's like, this is like the most like generalized thing that like has clearly happened lots of times. Right. No, it's just of having sex with children.

Right. Terrible. Uh-huh. You say, you say Tom Hanks is a real good guy. But if I was his kid, I would want to die. He's been replaced by a clone. Donald Trump is in charge. He won that election.

We're going to Mars. Living in a new world. He didn't say any of that. I wish he did. It would be fun. That would be great. Well, you know, who knows? I mean, this is just the first version of the song.

Maybe he'll expand on. What's an example of a song that expand? There are a few, like, anthems like that where they keep adding to it, right? Well, Dylan used to play a lot of different versions of his songs and ad versions. He's reminds me, because people have been complaining, like, oh, he's pretty right-wing and simplistic.

Like, you know, technically, you know, what he wants can be met by leftism. And, like, this is not that complicated. He's singing about how his life sucks, you know? It's like his people, I don't know what these people want. They want him to, like, be singing, you know, and the goddamn, the laughter curve was misleading at best.

Trickle-down economics, I don't know the means test. Like, he's not supposed to be that. It's supposed to be some guy going, like, I got a pet bird and it died last week because I couldn't afford to put food in his beak. Living in the new world. That's what country's supposed to be, not like, Keynesian economics is a crowed on the world. John May the Keynes is destroying my world.

Let's see, I can't rhyme good. Anyway, I mean, I don't know what people want. Do you want, like, Bob Dylan? I mean, Bob Dylan does that. He just sings like, September 31st, 1962, this guy walking on the bar, the cops came, their patrol car was number four. And a deposition said they could not produce the weapon.

At all. I mean, it's just, I don't know what people want from music. Yeah. Can we, I mean, we're never going to get this guy. the show right he's he's gonna be number he he's living in like a holler somewhere this guy you think he's got lives in a holler i'm not gonna look a holler is not the only place where there are trees around i don't even know where the holler is i mean again we watch justified a lot i mean if this guy lives in like i mean we i don't hear i want to address this one more thing uh the rich

men north of richmond what does that mean because here's the thing you seem to think that it's Washington, D.C. I always interpret it as meaning Washington, D.C., because Washington, D.C. is just north of Richmond. It is a bit, there's a truth to that. I will grant you. There's a truth to, like, it is somewhat pretty, pretty north of Richmond, which could be it.

I guess if you're in Virginia, it's a good reference point. Because, like, this, what he lives is in Farmsville, which is, like, an hour west of Richmond, it looks like. Is there anything to the idea that this is, like, a Civil War thing? like richmond was the capital of the confederacy the rich meant like those northern industrialists coming i mean i feel like it would be a little late in the day for him to be complaining about carpet baggers and stuff i think he meant i mean i mean i think he means like wall street perhaps yeah or and the people who run wall street in his in his mind sure i mean look it could be about

wall street i guess but you know what i mean about wall street where he means by wall street i know what Wall Street is. I mean, I don't know if he has a full picture. I just don't know. I mean, someone can chime in the comments. I mean, if you think he's talking about Washington, D.C., or a group of people. I don't know. That's the only, I do like his song. I don't necessarily think that. I mean, look, I think Richmond, north of Richmond, it's, it's more fun than saying the corrupt politicians in Congress. It's just, look, honestly, if the song was called the corrupt politicians in Congress, it wouldn't be a viral sensation. I don't, here's the thing. He's illiteration.

I don't think he meant it that way. And I have no problem with the guy. I just feel like if I was his manager, I'd be like, look, I'm a pretty smart guy. I didn't necessarily think, because I'm not from Farmsville. So, you know, that whole north of Richmond doesn't mean much to me. I do know Richmond was the capital of Confederacy. So I'm not sure you mean. So maybe we changed the song to like, you know, the Richmond, the Richmond on the Potomac.

It wouldn't flow as well. I get you. I mean, look, I will accept this one he meant Because I like the song I wanted I want to believe that Does Richmond know the Richmond South of Philadelphia Two degrees west

I mean look maybe he was talking about Chappaqua Chappaqua That's north of Richmond What's Chappaqua Chappaqua Westchester Okay It's a very wealthy like I'm not from I'm sorry we're not all from Westchester I didn't grow up in I might not have grown up in a holler

but I didn't grow up in Chappaqua or near it so I'm sorry I don't know in chappaqua but it's it's you know it's a point of reference is that where the Clintons live I think the Clintons might have a thing there are you in with the Clintons do you have like connections to them somehow I'm their baby snatcher I'm the baby snatcher for the Clintons that's that I mean I wish we could can't should we be able to afford a nicer place It doesn't pay as well as you would think. The Clintons don't pay nothing. It's still a government job at the end of the day. I snatched babies for the Clinton family,

but it doesn't pay enough for me to live like a king, living in the new world. I only flush once. If I take a number two, because we got to save money. It's worth the Clintons live. I start babies. Anyway.

um what do you i mean you you you think he's gonna honestly i think he's better than anyone alive in country music this guy i think i i i like oliver n anthony oliver antony is the uh is probably the greatest country music artist you think this is the best endorsement he's gotten so far i don't know i look i don't listen this is really gonna put him on the map i don't love country but i i in general but i do like some of it this guy is that like it doesn't have to be accurate doesn't have to be like uh no it's it's a personal genre yeah it's just you know night reading's got to be like put my blue jeans on went to target i saw genital tucking and i threw a big fit you know it doesn't have to be that i do i do

think you could have rewritten the fat boy line i'm not even saying to make me feel better just it could have it could have hit harder you know um you know you know he also he also He also has a song about how he wants to stop drinking so much about how he wants to, what? No, it's funny. It's kind of funny. What, what? It's just kind of funny. I drink too much and I sing weird songs.

Sometimes they go viral. He sings about wanting to, you know, it's like there's a couple of lines that I've seen in different songs where it's like, you know, he might, uh, want to, every once in a while. Oh, he's a little depressed. Yeah, he's a little depressed. Well, look, I mean, he's living. These are very personal songs. Look, Oliver Anthony, don't do that.

I want you to know, look, you're living in the new world. And the new world of content majeure is an ally with you. Look, I'm sorry I questioned your title of your song. I don't do what you're thinking of doing. I don't think you meant him. Well, I don't know if he's thinking of doing it right now. I mean, I don't think you meant what I was implying it might have meant. I really don't, don't do what you're thinking of doing, please.

It gets better. it gets better right I was a sad kid sometimes I don't want I hope I hopefully because look you say oh he's now he's got rolling stone telling him he's gonna be number one

that don't matter you know people people succeed in Oliver you're good you're good at this keep keep keep let's all say nice things about Oliver Anthony I want this to end well

I agree I think you should keep you know cut the drinking down you don't have to drink every you know i don't know how much you drink but you know is it moonshine and i belates you i feel like this is condescending is like well you broke it up i think he's aware of the of the drinking that over drinking too much is i drink too much sometimes what you can't stand two men connecting and relating women just can't understand it i'm looking out for the men all right it's a new world and we're living in it moving on uh We, uh, there's an article that came out.

Apparently, I remember this movie The Blind Side? I do. It was about, um, what's her name? Sandra Bullock, just being a real caring, apparently. Sandra Bullock plays, like an upper class white lady who adopts a. Yeah. Black kid and the black kid ends up making it to the NFL. I don't remember.

Was she good or did she like go into like, I kind of vaguely remember her like going to the mall with the, you know, the black kid. big black kid yeah uh ends up being the NFL I'd hope he be big and uh he you know I kind of remember the vague impression I remember is her going to the mall with this kid and like he's not shoplifting don't you dare replace like stuff like that but just kind of like like preemptively getting people to like you know draw attention to her to her to her adopting this guy right and then like just trying to like find racism everywhere she could am I remembering that right I think

Basically, yeah, it's always her putting off these like Mother Bear vibes. What you think he's a thief, he's an NFL boy. Don't you dare, don't even look at him. I adopted him, which they didn't, but apparently. Yeah, so Michael Ower, is that how you know? That is how you say, it's Michael O'R, I believe. Or he is coming out and saying that some of these things that were implied in the movie aren't really true. Right, that they, that they.

What was implied that the family didn't use the N-word? No, I mean, what, there's a bigger issue that we're getting to, but what kind of stuff was implied that it wasn't true? So he says that he was never really adopted. He was never actually adopted, which might be a technicality. I mean, I don't, would he have gotten to the NFL without these people? Probably, right? Well, I mean, maybe not.

Who knows? I mean, did they teach him football? I assume they told them football these rich people Was the dad? I can't remember was the dad like the coach or something Was he? I don't even know I have no idea I might be really slandering this family But the big thing is that he believes that the family He made like almost no money off this movie

This is a huge movie Right It made hundreds of millions of dollars And he made almost nothing I think And he believes that the the family were all paid what like a quarter million dollars a piece or something like that or more millions of dollars you you know i think he said like yeah a quarter million dollars and he's like why but why am i not seen a dime from this movie and uh and they're bringing up all

these things they're bringing up this uh is the thing here where he shows brings up the the the the the budget oh uh the blind side went on to a mass more than 300 million dollars in profits yeah so according to the court filing the two he's negotiated a contract of 225,000 in addition to 2.5% of the film's net proceeds for themselves and their biological children while or receive nothing now I this is like what he filed in court and he's talking about the 2.5% of the film's net proceeds and I feel bad because I feel like he doesn't really understand a subject we're going to get into Hollywood accounting now you're You're not that familiar with this.

No. All right. This is a whole TLDR, before we get into this, if you're ever offered net points on anything, you piss yourself and run away. You shit your pants. You start screaming, but you don't sign that contract.

Because I'll tell you something, Hollywood accounting, this is one of the most insane. This is the subject, it's been going on for decades, The guy who wrote Coming to America He didn't write the book There's a whole book about him

I actually just ordered it off Amazon Because no, it's out of print Mysteriously It's called fatal subtraction But there's a whole We've known about this for years The films that like you would think Because it was the blindside

You know would cost $20 million It's $300 million budget How did that not make a profit? Well let's go through some examples here Of Hollywood accountant I want you to read this this thing here According to Luke film, Return of the Jedi, despite having earned $475 million at the box office against a budget of

$32.5 million, quote, has never gone into profit. Has never gone into profit. Return of the Jedi, the peak of the Star Wars original trilogy, one of the, probably, you know, until, you know, the 2000s came along with Titanic, probably one of the biggest films of all time, still up there, I'm sure, on the list. This film, not profitable. That's crazy. It makes you wonder if Return of the Jedi is not a profitable film.

Why are you even making movies? I mean, it begs the question, doesn't it? Like, hey, how'd you guys do with that Star Wars trilogy? Oh, we really took a hosing. I mean, I got, I mean, these movies are credited with like creating, along with Jaws, creating blockbusters, right? Right. I mean, why would they, why would they have kept doing it if it made no money? These people just kept doing this for years.

You realize how much the show. sharp cost hey really we took a we took a bath it's crazy let's read some uh so where does this how do they get away with it um i don't know how does the mafia get away with you i'm not sure what you're asking because they have all the money right i guess i guess the california do they say do they say like all that money just gets lost that remaining money it all just gets lost in post or something like what are they like what's the lie well yeah they they basically create expenditures uh i have to read the book because but i know that they inflate expenditures is what they do our buckwald received a settlement from paramount after his lawsuit buckwold versus

paramount the court found paramount's actions unconscionable knowing that was impossible excuse me impossible to believe that eddie murphy 1988 comedy coming to america which gross $328 million failed to make a profit especially since the actual production costs were less than a tenth of that. Paramount settled for $900,000 rather

than, this applies to a lot of people like screenwriters and like actors will be offered net points. I believe you want to get gross points. I don't know how much easier it is to get paid up to gross points, but I believe because there's gross profit

and net profit. And I guess gross is what you, I guess gross is like, you know, what the ticket, whatever you didn't pay the ticket people was the gross, you know, like the theaters, because they take a chunk. And that's the gross prop. But then that prop is like, well, we had to like, you know, they'll roll, I think they'll roll movies into it. They'll, they'll take stuff that from the movie Ishtar

and they'll make it part of coming to America. I don't know what, I mean, or maybe they just, maybe it's like a pentagon or they use like a, you know, a $100,000 hammer. Let's read some more of these examples According to the Return of the Jedi Let's see Oh there's one about JFK

The estate of Jim Garrison and Warner Brothers For their share of the profits from the movie JFK Which was based on Garrison's book on the Trail of the Assassins The Case was settled in 1999 With Garrison's estate receiving quote A Very Small Settlement And you have Wilson Groom's price for the screenplay rights to his 1996 novel, Forrest Gump,

which was a slight success, right? Yeah, I would say. Included a 3% share of the profits. However, due to Hollywood accounting, the 1994 film's commercial success was converted into a net loss, and Groom only received $350,000 for the rights and an additional $250,000 for the studio. screenwriter Ed Sullivan says that Sony claimed men in black

men in black the original 1997 men in black which spawned multiple sequels has never broken even it earned 600 million against a 90 million dollar budget it's so brazen that it's almost like impressive 500 million dollars just got It's literally like It's like one of those things where like you let this guy borrow your like I remember in high schools This guy was like hey let me see your watch

Like no you let me see it like all right and like this bigger guy on the bus and they gave it to him and like where's the right? I don't have your watch That's what this is it's like it's like give it back what watch There's literally what it's the same energy. It's just like what you're gonna do? What are you gonna do that? That's crazy Gone in 60 seconds grossed 240 million at the box office, but the studio declared a $212 million loss. Stan Lee, co-creator of the character Spider-Man, had a contract awarding him 10% of the net profits of anything based on his characters, which does seem a bit high, but whatever.

I mean, I could see them being like, we can't do this. I mean, they can, but it's just like, you know, we're not going to pay Stanley. The film Spider-Man from 2002 made more than $800 million in revenue, but the producers claimed that it did not make any profit is defined in Lee's contract, and Lee received nothing. In 2002, he filed a lawsuit against Marvel Comics. The case was settled in January 2005 with Marvel paying $10 million to finance, past and future payments claimed by Mr. Lee.

And this is Stan Lee. This is like an icon. Most of these people are like, I'm a screenwriter. I wrote a book. I mean, Stan Lee's like, you know, the 2002 film My Big Fat Greek Wedding was considered usually successful for an independent film. He had accounting, according to the studio,

the film lost money. Accordingly, the cast, with the exception of Nia Vardolus, who had a separate deal, sued the studio for their part of the profits. The original producers of the film sued uh do the Hollywood blah blah the studio claimed the film

which cost less than $6 million to make and made over $350 million the box office lost $20 million Peter Jackson director of the Lord of the Rings and his blah blah let's keep going um similarly the token estate sued

new line claiming that their contract had them to 7.5% of the gross receipts that was $6 billion hit Six billion dollar hit, according to Newline's accounts, the trilogy made horrendous losses and no profit at all. I mean, none of these films make any goddamn money. It's amazing. I feel bad for Michael Orr.

I mean, that guy, you know, I mean, he's just, he was just living with a racist white woman. And he didn't know, you know, he didn't know to get gross points, or any points, I guess. Yeah. Who made the deal? I know Michael Lewis wrote this book

Who wrote the big short And he wrote You know Liars Polk All sorts of books Well that's what the family I think the family's claiming That it's like all that money

Really went to him Like that Michael or That we didn't To the writer No Michael Lewis is claiming He didn't get the money either

Right Because Michael Lewis is Apparently friends with the dad That's how his story Even got there was attention He's friends with the dad So the idea that Hey look

Don't this guy's going to the NFL well fuck you get your net points um it's a shame i don't know if michael lor has any money hope he does he also says that he was like tricked into a conservatorship yeah i don't that look stop having his i don't care how many uh panty dances brittney spears does conservatorships we don't need you're an adult or not you know you either go to jail or you don't or psychiatric jail yeah but this idea that we just

keep people in billion dollar homes I guess their home wasn't a billion whatever a million a Bernie Speard's ass yes what do you think it costs probably more than a million 5 million 10 million

maybe 10 I could see you're having a 10 million if you can live in a 10 million dollar house you can you're an adult all right I'm sorry I'm not I'm that's where I end on that what you have a new story for me snow white well this is another uh

entertainment related controversy does the entertainment show today we are the i guess i guess we're this is the content majeure's new mo uh so we have uh snow white is facing backlash again over the snow white remakes so they're remaking snow white now they've already got the controversy about the dwarves not being dwarves right right yeah now they're all and they're all just able body

they wanted to be sensitive so they just decided to not cast any any you know right because you know no like dwarf actor would want to be in a movie like snow white no no I mean apparently Peter Dinklage was telling everybody we've had too good for too long

get rid of the dwarfs uh but the snow white has her own little thing so what's tell me about what this is so should we watch the video first Yeah, we can watch a video. This is some comments that she and Galgado made about what the new Snow White is going to be like.

It's going to be a little different than the original. It just came up a while ago. I didn't think there was too much of a thing. But whatever, we can play it. Yeah. You said you were bringing a modern edge to it on stage. What do you mean by that? I just mean that it's no longer 1937.

And we absolutely wrote a Snow White. She's not going to be saved by the Prince. going to be safe for the prince and she's not going to be dreaming about true love she's dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be and the leader that her late father told her that she could be if she was fearless fair brave and true and so it's just a really incredible story for i think young people everywhere to see themselves in nobody is running for president all right whatever uh i remember i saw it's a while ago i didn't care um we'll say um is this so why is it this doesn't boil your blood i mean look that uh you know snow white

is going to be uh altered in this way well i snow white is based on some grim fairy tale fairy tale probably right yeah i don't know what you thought these fairy tales were i don't think the original people people i don't care about disney i don't i mean i'm all for it go like do whatever you want I don't understand the people who like Act like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves Like is like you've revered this film for year It's just a rip off of something The animation quality is great

Right? Oh yeah, it's an innovation And these films were incredibly animated They're great I mean I have no problem with the version But like you know The idea that these were invented by Walt Disney Is you know for the most part

I mean even Fantasia is based on something right Yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure what But I think it might be I mean I don't know if lady lady in the tramp is based on some kind of hooker's journal so whatever but so apparently so that that happened like a month ago right and now there's a new she's back in the news just Rachel Ziegler now look do I think the film's gonna be good absolutely not no of course of course not what do you talk you you roped us into seeing the little mermaid film

yeah I did want to you mean Tim and it was horrendous it was pretty bad it was one the worst things I've ever seen in my life. Helly Kelly was good. She was a good singer. The girl was good, but like, but nothing in the film was good. You know, she was fine. She wasn't amazing, but she was good. The real problem with Disney live action remakes is that there's an eerie quality about

them where like a lot of the joy of the animated original is just kind of sucked out. And what you're left with is like this really like all this effort went into making this like CGI Starfish. But the Starfish is just kind of singing by itself all. lonely they're like there's no chorus behind it you mean you mean the crab or the crab sorry yeah you remember your damn movie but you know there's no core the chorus is gone it's now it's just like it's just these uh you know lonely fish singing right you know there's no magic to it there is no magic left you know who i i think we'll understand that Oliver anthony you got a little crab he

ain't doing no song he's singing to himself there's something Something wrong with a new world. This mermaid's family is racially diverse, but this little crab is not worth a purse. I don't know. I think, look, not everything's going to be amazing. Go on. Tell me about this.

Yeah, so let's read some of this. Also, keep in mind that there are probably like dozens of pornographic perversions of the story of snow white you know the dwarves are doing something to her well you know what you want me to do about that you want me to go you want to go you want to tell you don't know what to tell you why tell me this well i'm just saying like look if you're going to get mad at the woke snow white you know put it in perspective i love i love that's your defense hey look we feel like you're kind of uh changing these uh these stories that we've kind

become part of our our cultural legacy and you know look a lot of people jerk off to this So, I don't know what to tell you, Senator. A lot of people draw Snow White with big old tits. So I'm not sure what you're getting at. Go on. It's true. It is true. Rachel Zekler is under fire on social media for resurfaced comments she made last year

about gender roles in the upcoming live action remake of Snow White in which she plays the title character. Let's look at some of these reactions. I'll just skip down. So this is one of the responses on X. I quote up sorry god damn let's make it bigger oh I lost it living in the new world there we go this is a new reality you should make a rip off of rich men north of Richmond called this the new reality I got a gun

hand it don't fire shots I get turned down by Online thoughts, living in the new world. Rachel Ziegler, admitting she didn't like Snow White growing up, saying she had only watched it once before getting the role, is so sad to me. Out of millions of women who loved the character, care about the story, and yet this is who we got. I honestly, I've never met a woman who was that into Snow White.

First of all, stop. People who belong in Hollywood should have trim bodies. I'm going to put this out there. Fit bodies from Juilliards. right working off those asses and those calves dancing shakespeare the stage you maybe some of them can be fat but they got to be strong fat right you have to be fucking trained and meticulous with your love you know i don't care if someone's a fanboy i don't care oh it's just you what do you mean just this this trained actress who spent her entire life getting ready to be the

now i'm not saying this woman is but what should be the case what do you mean this actress She should spend her whole childhood training on the stage to be one of the elite who makes it to Hollywood. What do you mean? They didn't watch Snow White 1,500 times with their fat friends. What do you mean? Who cares how many times she watched it? I mean, I'm not saying it. I'm not on her side per se, but this is totally irrelevant.

Quote, criticizing Disney princesses is not feminist. not every woman is a leader not every woman wants to be a leader not every woman wants or craves power she but she's a princess right but she has a princess so you kind of are the like sort of a leader right yeah like i mean if if other people die but like this has happened in history lady jane air right was that were that fiction lady jane gray lady jane gray no one wanted that girl to be on the throne or or elizabeth you think anyone wanted elizabeth queen elizabeth she turned out okay just saying Um, yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah, she's part of a monarchy. Yeah, of course she's supposed to be kind of a leader. I'm not saying that, you know, they wouldn't have thrown off a cliff if they could have, you know, go on. What doesn't fit into my brain is why do women need to somehow be proactive, extraordinary? Well, a protagonist kind of has to be proactive. I mean, extraordinary, have this incredible, successful career in order to be. Well, I don't think she's saying that she's going to go like. Wait, wait, wait, wait, I think we're...

She's going to be the owner of Spanx. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. She's not becoming a senior VP of marketing at, you know, at a juice bar. She's a fucking, she's a royalist. She's a princess. She's a royal princess. I mean, I don't want to tell you.

I mean, this is not an egalitarian country. These people are, I mean, these are kind of crazy. Now, she did have kind of weird, you didn't get the video of her. There was a video of her. it's on the screen look on the notes um get out of full screen here hey what is this uh look in the notes up i put a link there is it there what's not it um what is it's it's a video of rachel ziegler yeah it's uh i thought i put a note there that whatever is she just look up on google rachel ziegler uh twit on on x.com I don't know whatever she seemed kind of whining in the video

oh did she like post a response to it or something something like yeah well she was just saying yeah you can't Rachel right Rachel Ziegler response video um this isn't it um whatever i don't i couldn't care less about this i honestly i couldn't care less about this whole story gives it shit you bring him at disney i couldn't care less i want to go off paint behind the house gas station living in the new world world. Last story we're going to talk about. I don't know. Are you familiar with Linus Tech Tips? Not at all.

Linus Tech Tips is a website, is a YouTube channel where this guideline is a very sweet-looking Canadian guy. I mean, now he looks like, you know, a little flashy. We'll look at Lucy's seeing the preview of the video. I mean, you might think he's some kind of hype beast, but he's not. He's a Canadian boy. He used to wear polo shirts. He's turned his company, which was. It's just a YouTube channel full of, you know, computer tips for like video, like how to install a video card, right, or how to build a PC, right? Into a huge empire, kind of taking the one, you know, he's got a, it's not called the Linus Media Group.

They do all sorts of tests. A video came out earlier this week from Gamer's Nexus, I think, is of this guy who's dressed like a metal head. That's like, you know, before we bring us up, let's bring up the Gamer's Nexus thing. See if that comes up, Gamer's Nexus. Linus. Yeah, this is, uh, yeah, this is, play this. Between LNG's own test.

From the beginning? Let's play, we'll leave it over there. In this chart, LNG has the NHD 15 from Noctua in red and green, the top two bars. And then it has the Peerless Assassin in blue and an orange. Notice that for each result, the, D15 is consistently a few degrees better than the... Does that make any sense to you? No.

No, but that's what we're dealing with. Apparently, Linus has done some stuff. This is the guy who's talking. Wait, that's not it. This is the guy. He made the problem video. Everyone's pile again. Oh, man, he's got complicated graphs on his shirt.

I'm not going to understand this controversy at all. Here's what I find. I found this funny. We're going to get to a point where it's going to be kind of funny. Now here's the video. I'm just going to show a few snippets of the response. It finally came out yesterday after a few days of Linus Media Group. In response, you know, this is the new CEO.

He's been there for six weeks. We're not going to play everything. We're going to skip around. I agree with the community. Before we talk about that, while I wish was on better terms, I just want to say I'm very glad to meet you all. I have spent the last couple decades on the corporate side, but my educational background is in computer science my first role in the tech industry was as the

writer at need seeker my history building gaming PCs was even who cares on most days i'm only six weeks into the job but in that time i've seen a lot i've looked at some budgeting some team building and operations by my main you've been telling him for years and i've been telling him for years staying relevant on youtube is hard for everyone but we aren't fighting for survival anymore and we don't need to run at this pace now that i get into what the controversy is by the way The graphs are wrong, that they're producing data that isn't right. They basically some company sent them a heat block or something that, like, that fits into a specific graphics card and reduces the heat.

And like these lines guys took it and put it on a different graphics card and then slammed it. And then didn't even give it back. They auctioned off the prototype. It's a whole big controversy, right? And it's just like, you know, people are mad about that. So it's just, that's a little context. I'm mad about it. Right.

In fact, in some ways, it's our efforts to keep doing more and keep doing... So they seem very humble, right? Standards and opening them up to feedback from the community. What I like about these apologies so far is that everyone looks like they're about to cry. Right. Here's in the end of the... Should they wish to participate, we will also task part of the team with going back through every video with lab's data to ensure accuracy... They're taking it very seriously.

Yeah. Make our jobs easier. But the actual testing is not the biggest source of our... our recent struggles. It's the human factor. There have been times when an internal video review caught an incorrect graph resulting in new versions of the graph being created only for those new graphs to not be put in the video. Just about every. I've worked in these two. I can understand how that could happen. Yeah. Now, it's everyone's being very humble pie. Everyone's being very, that's basically just of everyone until we get two lines this. Now, maybe I'll be, I think I'm going

to be vindicated here by it's not being boring we'll see a number of times and let's face it so this is a big reveal this is linus the actual linus boy i fail again hey it's me i'm chief vision officer now but realistically i'm not going to be able to hide behind my recent demotion here i was the one i mean it's coy because it's not really demotion right it's like they hire the CEO that makes them get the stock price up and whatever probably i assumed them to make it like IPO eventually, but whatever. The point is, like, you took that role, you probably own all the shares, I'm assuming,

whether you made deals. But the point is, like, my demotion, like, whatever. I'm just being the fact, I'm the referee here. At the head of the company for each and every mistake that our community has rightly brought to our attention. And once again, I made things worse by allowing myself to respond emotionally. It's honestly really hard

when people take an internal process error, and then they run that all the way to Linus is a thief and wants to auction someone else's intellectual property to the high sitter. I think we're getting a little up the rails already. When they start showing screenshots of the comments that are upsetting them, it's kind of like. Look, I know why screwed up, but I can't, I can't believe, when you say that, when you come on the internet and you tell me that I screwed up, I swear to God. This is me of trying to brush something under the rug just because I,

do think it's important to get all the details before declaring me to be a low down liar straight up piece of . We were slow, shipping back the GPU that Dilett Lab sent us. There's no way around it. That's our bad. But the delay in communication, the one that prompted the post that you guys just saw, it was less than two business days. The second that I was made- I mean, this is the worst apology I've ever heard in my life. Where of the situation on the 14th, I emailed Bill at Labs, and I explained... You know he's like, we have to do an apology video, and I'm like, no, no, you go out, I'll fire all of you.

What happened? I even included Colton's attempt at apologizing and offering no questions asked, full compensation for their stated value of the product, which happened on the 10th, before we were under any pressure to do so, and without Colton even bothering to check with me or Yvonne before just... saying go for it he knows that our internal policy is to do the right thing he's not an apology so he tried bless him I guess his job is safe for another day and I sorry I guess I've actually gotten a little bit emotional here again so I'm gonna stop there because whatever's being said about me and whatever's being said about the team should never have allowed my feelings to distract from any valid criticism of our work. My decision, for example,

to not bother retesting the monoblock, that was obviously wrong and my lame response on the forum was a huge and unnecessary blunder. I owe you guys better and I'm sorry. I mean, this feels like a stepdad. This feels like radio fire. I owe you guys.

This is what you say after you like, you knock a kid's mother into the wall. right I owe you guys better and then and I'm gonna I'm gonna deliver right well is that what he said for my part I owe you guys better and I'm sorry as a woman it's just ripping dry roll out of her drywall out of her hair that's what you that's what you hear I owe you better that's you the woman's being able to cast iron pot that's all I can think of I'm not accusing him of anything I'm just saying these the kind of things you hear is the language of the abuser but some of the things you're saying

about me look i take full responsibility they make me very emotional i think full responsibility for the actions that i took that have caused so much pain but i do have to point out that a lot of you had it coming a lot of you are ungrateful you have no respect for the things for the fact that the things you do reflect on me do I sometimes you use violence where words could do maybe maybe we can think about that maybe we can think about how we can keep me from having to do that

why do I feel the need to hit you I don't know I mean I just feel like it's a it's subtle but it's one of the more it's one of the funnier to me how big is this channel uh 15 million followers oh wow subscribers so bigger than us they could crush us but why would they don't even know who we are and could they crush us i welcome i welcome them is linus gonna bring the hammer down on us now please daddy don't hurt us please daddy linus no i'd love her lines to try and starting shots of us we're so small we doesn't matter like we who's going to happen

nothing living in the new you test that monoblock you say it's a type you auction it off you ruin my life live in the new world I mean I love that song so I want to meet that guy we have to try I mean he's getting huge we have to try to get Anthony James is that Oliver Anthony I'll we want to get him on we might want to to nail the name down first. Oliver Anthony. We're going to wrap this up. I want you, everyone to go support Oliver,

and I mean to support Oliver Anthony. Now, if it does come out, that song's not about Washington, D.C., whatever, still a good catchy tune. Yeah. And, you know, we live in a free country or free ideas. And you're allowed to say stuff or you're subtle about it.

You know? If it's that much of a metaphor, then whatever. You know? you can't you can't police what's in a man's mind so hope you enjoyed the show and again one more time if you if you enjoy the show uh feel free to check us out on patreon patreon patreon.com slash raycom again extra episode every week for five bucks a month hundreds of episodes available already um so you can check that out otherwise we'll see you next week thanks for tuning in have a great week

Thank you.