Kump - 20 - I'm Not a Traitor

Episode Date: May 26, 2019

Ray discusses the intercepted Russian Bombers, contemplates what he would do in the air force, and the worsening circumstances for his good friend Julian Assange. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:53 I'm joining you from the closet I share with Lucy. And I had nice ramen. morning. I'm recording this. It might be early. I mean, I might still release this Sunday and but, you know, I might be going away or just going, you know. So, you know, I have this is a holiday weekend. So I'm getting this done. So, you know, you guys don't miss out. I'm like, I'm being the Messiah right now. This is me on the cross bleeding for you. So don't get snippy about the fact that, you know, it's Friday morning and I'm not released this till Sunday and like you know oh he's talking like why didn't he mention that baby that had the
Starting point is 00:01:33 fucking claws of a penguin that attacked his mother uh and the mother started bleeding from its vagina and then like you know there was just shit everywhere and the dad's like I didn't sign on for this and he starts punching the baby and he gets arrested I mean is this a plot to Batman I don't know uh because it's a penguin involved but the point is I didn't know I didn't know it happened because um you know it's friday and it happens saturday and shit might go uh i might miss things it's fine you know there might be some other baby who just eats shit like he eats his own shit everyone's fine with it and it's just adorable and he's just eating a bowl of shit on a youtube video and child but he farts so because child services
Starting point is 00:02:20 is like oh we gotta go like they're like getting like the child services people like so on YouTube and they're like putting their jacket on to go out like we got this one and then the baby in the video farts like and it's really great timing um and everyone's just like this is great actually so even though he's eating his own shit it's just i mean i've ever been that into fart humor uh i don't you have to be pretty the time has got to be pretty great for me to think farts are funny nowadays but you know it is a phenomenon it seems to resonate with people and look I've been known to you give me a good to and I can laugh so that baby that was eating its own shit out of a bowl on a
Starting point is 00:03:05 YouTube video my position my hypothesis is that child services once they saw it fart assuming the timing was right it's got to be nailed a little timing on that as a baby so if he does that's pretty impressive I have that kind of comedic instincts at that age but it just And they're like, ah, he'll be fine. And they let him go. And he dies because he's eating shit. And that's a moral of the story is those people probably lose.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I don't know if to lose their jobs. You just have to, like, audit their computers, like subpoena them and see if they watched the video. If you did, it would come up. They actually pretty savvy to get away with it if someone's suspected. Because probably, I mean, I guess what happened is like, I was assuming that, like, they just found it on YouTube probably someone would call and be like hey there's this baby it's eating shit out of a bowl they're putting it on youtube not even trying to hide it this is a fucking
Starting point is 00:04:06 button closed case that but that's right word button and clothes it's a button and closed case and then uh so they would call child services in their area and then like they would see that the baby died like well i i call child services that why did the baby keep eating its own shit and um would, you know, complain to whoever child services works for, I guess. The health department, uh, probably, probably, or social, is there, there's a social services department. So that's who they go to. They go to the director of social services for their county and they go, I saw the baby shit
Starting point is 00:04:43 video, called your people, didn't do anything. Why? And he's going to look like, hey, I don't care of babies die. I'm the director of social service. Why would I get? I'm a county, like, a high-level county worker slash manager, like, I don't care if people die. That's what he's thinking in his head, but he's got, you know, play the game. He's like, oh, that's sad. That's a baby dying.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Okay. So he, to just get them off his fucking back, he goes to, you know, the director of child services and it all goes downhill from there. So no one cares that the baby eating shit has died. Maybe the parents. Maybe they thought shit was good for you. I don't think it's good for you. I'm telling you now, don't feed shit to your kids. But in this scenario, the child services people are going to get brought down just because that guy was just annoyed and can't be bothered to have his image besmirched by some, you know, whiny person who was mad and a baby died.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Are you following it? Okay. So you can go on that computer and you're going to see, like, hey, you clicked on this link. and it is funny he's going to be like look I get it it's a funny link I don't blame you for not reporting it because
Starting point is 00:06:03 he's like he's a psychic like the people at child services are like they kind of mean they mean well but you know you get into the county system I've worked for the county you get into the county system and you just kind of
Starting point is 00:06:15 you get a little callous and you get a little like I can't help anything and at the end of the day they would they yeah they just they weren't due but the county executive got
Starting point is 00:06:26 this director of social services he's like I get it you saw this baby and farted perfectly and you're like what am I going to do report it and I stopped getting these great videos because that's how he thinks he's like yeah I'm the report it I want to say like it's Game of Thrones to him
Starting point is 00:06:41 you know it's what am I going to report that Macy Taylor got beat up no I want to see her on a horse and the horse is gone as it happened when the Game of Thrones if you don't watch it You know there's a horse meant nothing And let's not detour into that
Starting point is 00:06:58 But you know Macy Taylor In this guy was running the police department Like let her get hit I need my horse movie It's a TV show sir Shut up and he pulls his gun out And shoots his employee
Starting point is 00:07:10 Who's also a cop Why don't cops like shoot other cops When they get mad It would seem like you're all those guns lying around You would think like the fucking Like that he watched a wire and, like, you know, McNulty's boss Rawls, I think his name is.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The guy who became the direct deputy of the opposite and tried to backstab the other guy. But he's like, you know, you fucking piece of shit, you're fucking my career. How great would it be if he just pulled a gun out and started shooting Gunnoughty in a fucking face? And he's like, I'm a cop. I'll get away for any other crime.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Why can I get away with killing McNulty? McDonald's seems not be like that much. You'd think they get away with it. The whole blue wall of silence, you would think it would work for them And that's, you know, like, what's more powerful? The blue, if you got a cop killing a cop, where does the blue wall of silence lie? That's an interesting question, philosophically, if you will.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I feel like he could have shot McNaughty, like right in the fucking, I mean, the other guy shot that guy that, I forget his name, but the fuck up shot the other cop. He did get fired. It wasn't on purpose, and he didn't know the guy. He wasn't wearing the color of the day. color they wear when you don't cover I guess it's I wonder it's like it's got to be some weird color like fuchsia or like neon
Starting point is 00:08:28 green I love some neon green panties by the way anyway uh that's not it's a weird detour but it is important neon the only time you see neon anymore is in porno videos and uh or a Victoria's Secret where you can buy panties that your girlfriend or it doesn't matter we'll talk about that and love is disgusting
Starting point is 00:08:45 tease go go listen to our love is disgusting It's me and Lucy Steiner It's not a plug, but it's a plug, but you know It's just natural But we'll flesh that out there If you haven't listened yet So yeah Cops shooting cops
Starting point is 00:09:05 I had a nice top ramen breakfast I think I said it before But you know It's Friday morning And I didn't Look I make a top ramen patty I'm just going to lay it down I mean a top ramen patty
Starting point is 00:09:21 If you don't know what that means I basically I take I got beef ramen today I think I prefer chicken You know on first glance When I first started eating ramen It was like beef yeah beef is better than chicken A it's not always true But that's kind of how my brain works
Starting point is 00:09:34 But in the case of the weird Salt seasoning packet They give you with top ramen The chicken's better The chicken the beef is kind of weird But I only have is beef So I had beef And you're supposed to
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm not talking about the cup of noodles because that's also a ramen but you know I'm talking about the packets the ramen packets I made a ramen packet I just put it in the water of the hot water I don't even wait for the boiler it get a little hot and then it'll be boiling a little bit but then you put
Starting point is 00:10:02 the pat the thing in there and you let it get soft to the point where it's a patty and you can just pick it up in your hands and chew it may put some of the seasoning on it and you chew it now some people have told me over the years hey you fat
Starting point is 00:10:17 piece of shit you fucking disgusting can't even fit in your pants fat man you fucking pig you slob you fucking smell like my my shit that i fucking feed my baby the human shit i feed my baby that's how you smell you fucking fatty you can't wait you can't fucking wait until the ramen is all the way cooked and like you have it and put in a bowl like a person And that's not the point. I could wait. Don't, don't, I'm preempting it. I could wait.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I could wait all day for ramen. I'm not a greedy little pig. All right, I could wait for my ramen, but I choose to make the patty. It's not a fucking, a fat hack where I fucking, you know, find some way where I can put ramen in my mouth fucking ten times quicker. No, I like it in a patty. I like the texture.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I like the portability. I like the fact that, like, you know, put the seasoning. and eat like a sandwich. I mean, it's just, like, it may be disgusting on a different level, but don't act like I'm just, like, you know, trying to fucking circumvent the fact that, you know, I want to eat my ramen quicker, and I'm just going to, like, you know, oh, yeah, like.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And by the way, I watched whether there's documentaries or what you call him, cooking shows on Netflix years ago, with that guy, David Chang, who is a favorite, is this guy from Mumofuco? I don't know, but he's a famous, Asian Chinese or Japanese? I don't know if I say Chinese or Japanese? I think Chinese. It could be Japanese.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I think Chinese. The cuisine is somewhat similar. I mean, he wasn't a sushi guy, but I guess probably Chinese. It doesn't matter. It's all great. And yeah, he was talk about the ramen and how
Starting point is 00:12:10 he would eat ramen. See, Japanese, ramen's Japanese. That's why it maybe adds to the confusion. Don't get on me. all right i like all different types of you know i don't know where everyone's from but i'm like keeping track of people like some fucking computer and if i was that'd be the problem you know people who don't do that in the past haven't been great so i'm sorry don't keep track of what race everyone is what country everyone's from you know that's not i mean i do my best to accommodate people and and to you know be aware of their their pluralistic wonderful backgrounds i'm not some
Starting point is 00:12:41 fucking guy keep it you're from sri lanker and you're from indonesia what the fuck i mean we're all I'm not going to fucking start, well, you know, that's okay for an Indonesian guy to do, but not for a fucking, you know, Tibetan. Oh, fine, if everyone can do that thing. What am I? What am I? You're a cop? Fuck off. So he was talking about how, you know, ramen.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I think he was making some ramen dish. And he was talking about the ramen packets. I think he was repurposing them or something. And he would talk about as a kid, he would just take the dry, when he got home from school, he'd eat ramen all the time. And sometimes he would just take. a dry ramen packet like not even put it in water fucking put the seasoning on it and eat like a cracker or a Dorito or something and that's even more disgusting and I also do that sometimes it's not great this is a much better version of that if you are very hungry it is quicker so
Starting point is 00:13:35 yeah maybe sometimes it would be a greedy pig we'll pull the curtain back and maybe sometimes I just wanted my face now I just want to shove that chewy ramen into my fat throat before it's done boiling so I do this you happy you fucking happy you want me to eat this shit now you eat a bowl of shit on YouTube you fucking pigs you really don't know how to make a man
Starting point is 00:13:59 dance for his money there's no money well some money but you know thank you to my Patreon we'll call you out later but uh you know it's not like I'm getting paid by some kind of satellite radio show uh or some kind of you know whatever
Starting point is 00:14:12 I'm not I'm not being paid to strip at a fucking, you know, German German strip club, which I could be. That might be a move I do. They'll do a tour or they do that. It's a crazy... So with the top ramen, paddies, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I would suggest trying it. I have a new recipe for something to do with ramen. I have a new idea for a show. Tendatively titled Fat, Dumb America. It's going to be a cooking show. possibly the first episode will be something you could do to your ramen that will be
Starting point is 00:14:50 disgusting but also delicious and that's going to me it's going to be me sharing these disgusting fat it's just a reflection of the world um and the disgusting things i can do to ramen and things like that that can you know really make you wonder why we don't just all just jump into a fucking lake and set the lake on fire in a weird week they two times at least two times this week. I don't know. It might have happened again. I don't think it happened again.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But two times in two days, Russian bombers. Nuclear capable, they say. Which isn't everything nuclear capable? Was that B-52 that dropped the atom bomb? Was that like a nuclear capable B-52? Or did they just fucking shove a nuke in there and then drop it?
Starting point is 00:15:37 I don't know what the difference is. I mean, I'm sure they've got to be longer range because you're flying. Why? Well, we'll get this in a minute. But they got really close to America up by Alaska. This is a story that, like, basically the U.S. Air Force storedied. Did they call them a story?
Starting point is 00:15:55 It's scrambled jets to intercept them and basically escort them because they didn't come into American airspace. But I guess they came surprisingly close. It seemed provocative, I guess. I mean, it's hard to know. I should really research. This might happen every other day, and they do it. It seems weird to me.
Starting point is 00:16:18 They're weird to me on a bunch of levels. Because let's just take it to face about it, it is provocative. It seems odd to me. So it's provocative if you see these nuclear jets and nuclear bombers, actually, and they're flying towards America or around America. I mean, secondly, Alaska. I mean, I kind of feel like the only reason you have Alaska is just to, like, You know, it's like if you have a hot girlfriend and you bring into a bar and she's just wearing like a short-ass skirt and a fucking, like a tits are fucking cleavaged out and they're fucking, just because it's tits hanging out and the ass hanging out.
Starting point is 00:16:54 This is this is like sexy, and everyone's drung me like you bring her and you go and want you to talk to that guy and like, but then you get mad, what are you doing with my girl? And you put it like that's where it feels like it feels like you fucking just put Alaska there. just to get into a fight just if I can bring your last because you're your girlfriend your hot girlfriend that you just and she's into it let's that well in case you think I was being
Starting point is 00:17:20 you know the what's the word to women no she was into it she that's what like women are into that sometimes I like the idea of you uh getting into the fight I don't know I'm not the one who invented how minds work don't blame me
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm not saying all women like that but this one was you can know I'm not saying you were like the guy was for whatever so Russia is jumping over with these fucking bombers and, like, we're so shocked that we escort them. I don't know. I was walking down the street the other day with Lucy on the way to get laundry. And some guy, I guess my flight was open, but I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And some guy got real up in my space in a friendly way in hindsight. But I just, I was jolted. I was like, ugh. And I didn't make that noise, but it was a little bit. I shook back, just as a surprise, you know, and that's the way people react when they're surprised. I feel like, you know, if I was in the Air Force and, like, these Russian guys, I mean no ill will to Russia, but just out of pure shock if I would just start attacking the bomber.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I would just do an Independence Day and just fly, like head first, a kamikaze, right, into the bomber. So I don't know Maybe these guys are a little more composed than I am These guys who fly Air Force jets Maybe are a little more Physically fit and mentally sound It's possible I mean I feel like I would do well in there
Starting point is 00:18:50 I mean I'd have to get a little bit of shape To optimally I'm sure I could fit in the cockpit But to optimally fit in the cockpit And reduce drag Yeah You know But I'd be a great pilot I have a feeling I'd be a really good pilot
Starting point is 00:19:06 in the air force um i don't like shooting civilians and i feel like it's a big thing for them it's just like mowing down civilians like in a weird raid formation um i'm not trying to disparage it went look it's memorial day coming up you know all the great pilots that were lost in the conquest of resources and coltan mines and mineral rights and you know oil preserves and jams all the jams we got from wars we honor you all right we honor your sacrifice to get
Starting point is 00:19:40 us to basically what are we doing Vietnam we stopped the domino effect we didn't but I mean well we did I mean no no they bring that up those guys in Vietnam they might have done some atrocities and enforced to do them
Starting point is 00:19:57 a prodded to do them but no one else went communist after that I don't know if it's true, but that's what they say. They stop the domino effect. I don't think it's... Look, all I'm saying is I should have been a pilot. I should have been in the...
Starting point is 00:20:13 Imagine me, because even if you objected me, I would just start fucking biting people. I would be behind enemy lines in Russia, just biting people and inviting them to dinner. I would just bite like a guy in the arm and go, come my house for dinner and run away. He'd be like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:20:31 He wouldn't even be a soldier. If I had a soldier, I'd hide Because those guys have guns And they're probably trained to fight So I only fight civilians if I ejected I'll be honest of you That's why I don't join the Air Force They know how it works
Starting point is 00:20:44 If you get ejected you fight You gotta fight people You gotta keep the war going Even if you get lose your plane Like it's not like Some people are thinking in the Air Force Like oh You're a bunch of guys of planes
Starting point is 00:20:55 And the people who watch the planes But like you're a warrior So when you jump out of that fucking Air Force plane because it's about to get blown up, you're still a warrior. So you got to fight people. You got to keep the war going. But you don't want to fight trained soldiers because that's just not your forte. You're an Air Force pilot.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So you fight civilians. You fight children and women and guys who were cowards, I guess. Computer programmers. You fight computer programmers any chance you get. Hopefully you can salvage something from your crash plane if you landed near it that you can hit people with. So you just have like a piece of it. wing and then like you'll see some fuck the mailman and be walking down the street and like oh my
Starting point is 00:21:35 god what is this it's just me running on with a piece of my wing and like fucking slow his throat I don't know this is I feel like I've never been directly recruited for the Air Force but I feel like it should have been because I have a good I have good warrior spirit I think
Starting point is 00:21:51 I have a good mind but yeah so I don't know they escorted these planes it happened twice in two days so I don't know what the me the meal is I don't know what the deal is it would seem to be some kind of provocation
Starting point is 00:22:10 if I had to guess realistically it almost seems like let's see if Trump says something dumb or does something dumb that we can cap I'm not sure what that would be I feel like there would be some there would be something they want to do or say or move
Starting point is 00:22:24 and then like they want to provoke Trump into like a position where he's you know well maybe they're all in it together I don't know there was something with a RAND corporation which I'm what is the RAND corporation I always hear about them I think I knew at one point are they just a defense no they're a
Starting point is 00:22:41 think tank right they're think tank I think works on I don't know officially but I'm sure they work on behalf of like defense contractors just to boost up war I'm pretty sure I'm like 90% right in that uh what is RAND it's like one of these uh fucking think
Starting point is 00:22:57 tanks that like or logistics companies pretty sure they do think tank I think fucking a macamacanamerer worked for them at some point but uh yeah they're the guys who told you like look we probably could kill a few more civilians if we put this napalm in a butterfly formation and then like
Starting point is 00:23:17 uh Nixon was like oh huh and then uh that's great Nixon by the way great Nixon and then Kissinger comes in and starts jerking off and he goes oh I'm sorry I thought this was in my living room and then I don't know I'm working a sitcom with Nixon and Trump That was partly the first episode But my point is
Starting point is 00:23:35 Rand Corporation came out And they say hey we've been doing these war games We've been doing these running these war games With the scenarios of the U.S. Fighting China and Russia I think together and maybe separately And I remember the quote being Something the effect of like a blue team
Starting point is 00:23:53 Gets their ass handed to them Every time Blue team it lets you know what a bunch of scumbag fucking just corporates military scumbent
Starting point is 00:24:05 blotame gets their ass kicked I think why I just say you're talking to a fucking reporter what's something blue team that's supposed to connote some kind of it is all just such fucking clumsy propaganda than me it's just to connote
Starting point is 00:24:18 some sense of detachment some sense of like professionalism because they're calling a blue team like it's a subtle thing and it's not effective to me and I feel like I hope you hopefully not to you
Starting point is 00:24:31 because these guys are fucking cooks if they were right we wouldn't have got mired down in Vietnam here is the ultimate dilemma though because they did same thing did we lose the Iraq war the Iraq war go I mean I was in a cab drive you were the other day talking to this guy
Starting point is 00:24:46 from Pakistan who's from Pakistan and we were talking about like how much money you got wasted on the war I'm like you could say it got wasted but you know people got rich over that fucking war you know Yeah, the U.S. government or U.S. people lost, like, trillions of dollars. But that trillions of dollars went somewhere, went to someone. You know, you get my point.
Starting point is 00:25:06 You get my drift. So maybe Vietnam being a quagmire where children were murdered was good for people, I guess. So it's all subjective, I guess. You don't get to say it's bad because someone got rich. So the point is those guys were behind all that. These, why didn't Rand have any idea about 9-11? Fuck, fuck you, Rand. They're trying to echo do these fucking...
Starting point is 00:25:31 The whole point of Rand is to fucking sell more missiles. It's kind of like the NRA, you know? They actually are some think tank. They're just some fucking, you know, they know what the deal is, you know. You go, some guy who worked at Rand comes in over the fucking Arthur McDaniels Millen or whatever the fuck or, you know, grumman. what's the other one general dynamics oh we'll give you a job they it's a bribe it's all a fucking quid pro quo
Starting point is 00:26:00 they get a job later and they probably get money under the table it's not even if they're in the government they're going to get away of anything so they're basically saying that America's getting their ass kicked if we go to war which is like yeah it's maybe I mean I don't care good let's get wiped out
Starting point is 00:26:15 we've had our run I mean honestly some of it was talking about the 27 club this week someone I know where I think he turned 27 or he's going to turn 27 I don't know it's irrational stupid but you know we want to tell you I mean I have to sit there and go oh yeah there is something you should be afraid of sure and I just want to spit in his face but whatever but the point is why would you even care like those guys went out in their prime and I must everyone wants to cling to life I get it but like what's
Starting point is 00:26:46 some people make the arguments better than what the better the um look good and then fuck a corpse no better look look good and leave a dead corpse in your bed something uh and the point is
Starting point is 00:27:02 that you know why not just fucking let them wipe us out when it comes to it why are we trying to like save this it's not good I mean we're not look I don't want to be a pessimist I want to be the eternal
Starting point is 00:27:19 optimist right I believe in people i do i do not really i but i believe we're capable of it like i i think i've mentioned this before talking about this before in the podcast but years like a hundred years ago uh i've read it from a few different sources like people in general just much more engaged and there was like there was like it's we're not just the same people and they're fucking us we're letting it happen and we'll let it happen more than people let it happen back in the day and you know ultimately is it because of propaganda efforts and you know some mind control and by mind control, we're talking about, you know, psychologically targeted advertising and
Starting point is 00:27:55 marketing, which is mind control. I mean, that really is what they're doing. You go watch the Century of the Self as a good primer for this kind of, you know, if you don't, if you're not really up on that. It's a documentary four-part by Adam Curtis. I think I mentioned Adam Curtis last week. The Century of the Self is a very interesting. I can't have asked for everything in it. I'm not a psychology expert, but, you know, it's a good primer. It gets see into the whole Edward Bernays and uh, it was Freud's
Starting point is 00:28:22 nephew and he kind of pioneered the public relations industry and you know how the Nazis actually stole from us they stole like gerbils looked to us to you know to how to do propaganda not the other way around people like and you know if you want to get to the moon you steal
Starting point is 00:28:38 from the Nazis if you want to trick people into buying shit and you know letting you take over the world you have steal from America that's how it works so yeah and uh what was that about what are we talking about that mind control psychology people are more engaged so could we could we get better could we could we go out there and like really take back this kind i'm sure of course we could and people are capable of it you don't have to be a genius but
Starting point is 00:29:06 i don't i love very little faith in the people's will uh i think will is the kind of thing you'll lose spirit's the kind of thing you'll lose like a fighting spirit that goes away and you get it back i'm sure but like there'd be something going on like i mean that's what cynically people were talking about how you know they needed to get 9-11 that's what i mean that is what you told me like the project for the new
Starting point is 00:29:30 american century penack all that shit you know the things that you know the guys who basically maybe plan 9-11 maybe sure uh but you know the idea is they wanted their pearl harbor they wanted that polarizing moment for a reason because people get complacent and that's the most dangerous thing is just it's People who have it too good for too long. And you fucking...
Starting point is 00:29:51 So, it's all a long way of saying we could do... But we're not going to. And not going to get better. So why not let Russia bomb us to the fucking... And we had her out. Like, people will remember the last few years weren't great. But overall, if you look at the narrative... Maybe we can call bullshit in the whole narrative.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But if you look at the narrative... Yeah, we had World War II. That was cool. Civil War. We fought to end slavery. Yeah, it's complicated. You know, I mean... far as like it didn't end up being that great i mean it did in slavery i guess technically but point is it's all very messy but the big narrative points they look fine kind of they look like
Starting point is 00:30:30 yeah we're do and this and that and then you have you know this current slop uh vietnam and warrugate and forward uh into this just at least war at least watergate they were trying to do something i mean it was bad it's clink to power i don't even know what's going on anymore it's just a There's a soupy mess. It's just... I don't care. I don't want to talk about it. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But why not let China just fucking drop a bunch of nukes on us? Like, that would be quicker. And if you want to get out, get out. They should really... We should, like... They should let people disperse for, like, a week or two. And they just attack... I mean, look, I'm not talking about Holocaust.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm talking about it if they're going to attack us anyway. Like, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, it's not that bad. We'll be dead. It's fine. Oh, my kids would be dead. All right. You know, I'm not a traitor. I'm just saying, like, at a certain point, if you're still clinging to dominance, which we're trying to do, we had the Iran Corporation trying to goose up a war just so we can white.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I mean, I've always said, you know, people talk about China and how it's going to overtake us in 20 years, 30 years, 50 years, it seems inevitable, just really on the swings of the economy, economic swings, you know. it's not even necessarily based on anything any virtue of what you're doing it's like you know if you look at why america is was quote unquote the greatest country i mean a lot of it in my opinion had to do with we were a country that was um unpopulated you know wink wink um they're populated um they're populated of course but you know as far as that people taking over were concerned it was i'm i'm being anti imperialist here just so to be clear i'm saying like you know they they have they have no qualms about, you know, taking out of Native Americans. And, you know, they're coming from Europe, which is, you know, a code of, like a system of a place where there really wasn't much land you could just swap up, you know, it was all kind of taken.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And these Native Americans had a pretty lax property law, and even if they didn't, let's not kid ourselves, they would have taken it anyway. So from that point of view, they were operating as if it was free and open. and a lot of resources, a lot of a lack of regulation in a sense of like, you know, look, I'm not arguing for private prisons or even, you know, like some libertarian point of view.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You know, look, to a certain extent, you know, like, whatever, we can get to that later. But the point is, you know, Europe at the time, on this sort of like, you know, loosely called mercantilism, was a pretty economically oppressive system. and not even to benefit anyone but the crown. Like, it wasn't done to
Starting point is 00:33:17 benefit the people. At least with socialism, you purport to help the people. And a lot of socialism, what they call socialism, they do. But, you know, they were talking about, like, Soviet Russia. At least they had the point of trying to help people.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But this whole mercantile's thing is like, it's basically tariffs. I mean, what you have now? I mean, if you read the wealth of nations by Adam Smith, half of that shit's just like, you know, this guy did this tariffs, that guy did tariff and back and forth it's just you're reading how they're all fucking themselves while they're fucking each other it's the mess and uh if you took nothing else away from that book it was uh you know don't do tariffs like it just never work and uh here we go we got we got in
Starting point is 00:34:00 i was kind of wondering like you know this definitely won't work I'm pretty pretty confident about that will they work in the short term to the point that you know it looks good for him and I don't even know that's it's comedic onlyness like he does those tariffs of China last week, and then the Dow drops, what, like, 600 points, like, immediately. It's only funny in the, you know, the immediate, whatever. You find you wherever you want. It's all fucking doomed. We want to tell you.
Starting point is 00:34:26 We're going to tell you, it's all going to be great. We're going to get Obama back. He's going to fucking predator drones and Pakistani weddings, but otherwise it's going to be great. Maybe. Maybe we can get a third term. I mean, the amount of things that, like, people, we can't have a third term for president. If Trump was in, I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:43 I don't know. You are starting to wonder, will he leave? I mean, I'm not trying to be alarmist, but, like, you're getting fucking notes from Congress, with subpoenas, or court orders, I guess, and he's just refusing them. Which is not new. I mean, look, the Bush administration did plenty of,
Starting point is 00:35:03 hey, we're going to write the rules as we go along, and basically, if you don't call us out, even if you do call us out, that's it. Like, that's the way their house counsel works was basically, like, all right well you fucking tell you know you stop us that's how it worked you stop us basically that being said Trump did seem upset when he got the hearings so uh that whole famous quote that came out which look infuriates me when people in the whole in the mule report redacted mule
Starting point is 00:35:29 report got released and people were going like he read the quote was like oh like this is the end of my presidency i'm fucking ruined wherever it wasn't exact quote but that and like this is so great it's so worth it for this and it's like i don't know what you're doing like he the guy has won like this is the post-mortem and like he thought that sure but didn't happen so like how can you be happy about that if that was your goal i don't know it's just indicative of these children who call themselves millennial i mean 24 25 year old people nowadays i'm a little older not that much but you know older enough something happened in this generation because these kids it's all about it's just it's just nothing there's no grounding to it all it's like you can just
Starting point is 00:36:13 like that's great like is it great like what are you talking about like the guy got away with it that's like like like if you if you if you heard that oj was like oh i just killed my wife and kids this is those wife is i just killed my wife i'm gonna go to jail this is terrible oh no i'm a murderer and you know that was all worth it and like no he got away with it what you talking about anyway but they just want people want that moment people want like a Tharsis. People, like, you know, someone was saying something about sleeping in night. What was the thing? People wanted. I don't know. But the idea, like, someone that people can sleep at night knowing that.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's like, you shouldn't sleep at night. If you're worried about it, like, that's the problem. It's just this moral hazard. Like, I don't know. The point is the Rand Corp. We're talking with the Rand Corporation, Trump. Oh, I don't know. The Mueller report. The point is, is Putin trying to fucking get Russia to do. Oh, why was America the greatest country, right? why economically yeah it's just resources and opportunity you know a lack of regulation
Starting point is 00:37:15 of key times you know and the industrial revolution happening at the same time basically and you know whatever there's a lot the point is these are massive swings that like when people try to blame a president for the economy like you can but you can't blame the one who's in office
Starting point is 00:37:34 most of the time it's just it's possible you know a guy like Trump doing something as crazy as you know doing tariffs that apparently drops it down but you know i don't think that that was i mean i haven't checked it down a few days i don't think it's like irreparably harmed from that but it could be i mean look i've been saying for you know a while now it's like it's all gonna depend on what the economy's doing a month out two months out that's and look it's it's we're due in theory for a crash or a recession uh just far as the years i mean it's been a while uh it doesn't mean's gonna happen but like it's definitely in the in the ballpark
Starting point is 00:38:08 just as far as time-wise and you know what you've been doing and the amount of spending it's just like it's possible in the way yeah a wild card like fucking trump who knows maybe the economy takes a turn and then uh you know that that's if it's doing well odds are he'll stay in office that's just the way because that's the way all this shit's worked i mean it's like you look at you look at history and you look at you know who gets elected and it's usually the incumbent if the economy's cooking right there's even i've some guy talking about how how excuse me Bush senior
Starting point is 00:38:41 when he didn't get reelected basically he was making some economists he was positing the the notion that you know basically every president for decades have been going to the Fed 18 months out and asking them hey can you put some credit
Starting point is 00:38:59 into the economy jolt I guess you know cut the rates a little bit exactly how the mechanism how they do it and uh they get a little jolt and you know and it takes about 18 months were to kind of work its way through because you can't just lend money to a bank it's all kind of complicated
Starting point is 00:39:14 how you know the bank the Fed was money to a bank and they want to people and whatever so the full point is and the Bush didn't do it for some reason that's why it didn't go like it's simplistic and I'm not explaining the whole thing but the point is you know the economy
Starting point is 00:39:31 in the president or not as nowhere near as intrinsically tied as people pretend they are but that's still how they vote so what do you want me to tell you I mean is Trump responsible for the state of the economy when they came in of course not I mean they've been jolt
Starting point is 00:39:48 you know slashing interest rates we're keeping them slashed for you know a decade all that money's going at the stocks and like you know you know why like you're coming out one of the worst recessions ever and you know it's whatever
Starting point is 00:40:01 I mean of course it's going to be like you know unemployment I mean the fact that's staying so low you know, there's a lot, why is it happening? I mean, you can't know that by glancing. I mean, it would take, you know, study and looking at it. I'm not an economist, but, you know, the point is you know enough to know it's not what they're saying. It's not Trump's gain.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It's also not, he's not ruining it. I mean, maybe in some cases. The point is China could bomb us. And, uh, oh, no, this is all a very long way of saying, you know, why, so China will be there. it's not for me virtual i'm not saying the fact that they're communist slash capitalist hybrid is why they're going to overtake us it's just they're going to overtake us because of demographics and uh just their position economically and maturation you know they've a lot of people who are still kind of making low wage but they're getting better it's all that kind of shit so the
Starting point is 00:40:55 point is like oh what do we do and i've always wondered will the people who actually run this country the people who did 9-11 wink wink do i say wink wink when i just a them of doing it i don't know whatever when the people who um do they just start a war with china i've always wondered like it's you know will they find some reason to start the war with china russia mostly china uh and this is what i'm thinking when i see the rand corporation coming out going oh blue teams getting their ass kicked every time it's like we got to do something and like oh you want you have a bunch of missiles you want to sell that what's going on um but also the grander ranger scheme that's what at the end of the day it just seems to me like
Starting point is 00:41:34 oh, you have surplus stock? You want to fucking... It's like... You want to sell some of these fucking lawnmowers and cruise missiles and predator drones. But also in the grand scheme, like, are they going to start a war
Starting point is 00:41:46 and just kind of leading towards that? I mean, apparently Bush's... Not Bush, sorry, Trump's aides wanted to start a war by Iran. Apparently Trump's resisting it. I guess to his credit. If it was like the one time,
Starting point is 00:42:00 it was a valid threat. But no, apparently he doesn't want... you know, I don't, yeah, I think he's, he's an idiot. Ah, isn't it? Look, he's savvy, and, uh, I don't think he's, you can't say he's smart, but he has good instincts for people, sort of, it seems like. A good ability to sell. And I think he gets, he's just story of Iraq war happened, you know, not that long ago. I mean, to me, it's not that long ago, and he's much older, so, you know, as you get older,
Starting point is 00:42:30 he, so there's a blip. and I think he knows instinctively like you know this is a mess you don't want to mess I mean it's not going to make him money he doesn't think he's not you know Bush had you know
Starting point is 00:42:44 the Saudi ties and Halliburton Cheney and the Carlisle group Trump that's not where Trump makes his money so he's not looking at going like oh yeah like you know this would be great for me it's like this seems like a mess which is the way most people do
Starting point is 00:42:57 sometimes in some cases are interest aligned with Trump because you go, he, much like I would go, this is a mess. And while Bush and Cheney and James Baker look at a situation like that and go, ooh, this is a mess. And they get a little hard because, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:15 okay, Bush is dead and Bush seniors dead. So RIP, Poppy, forgot about that. But yeah, you got a little hard, a little hard on you, dick, because how much of a mess these other things getting. Yeah, this is just a name. nature of how these people think so julian asange uh who donate to my patreon and um i'm beside myself he's been charged with 18 more federal charges i haven't got a chance
Starting point is 00:43:45 to look at me have apparently they're pretty bad look you want to get him on the rape get him on the it's hard it's hard to say note because here's the thing of i think i mentioned this last week of course the uh with the swedish rape issue of course it's being used politically as a cludgeon or cluggle or clodging cluggles a Jewish thing right
Starting point is 00:44:10 cludgeon a bludgeon to bludgeon them it's used politically opportunistically but that being said it doesn't mean it didn't happen so especially in this you know you know you might go in the if you're looking at some of you know the grand scheme of uh privacy issues
Starting point is 00:44:27 and espionage act and like you know should the lot of mistake but you know i think what we've one of the things we've learned in the recent years like you know it's easy to we shouldn't let that you know just wash over uh a valid victim here if it's if it happened it's hard for me to say don't you know pursue that but these federal charges aren't for that they're just you know they're accusing him a fucking espion i use the espionage act against them which is atrocious look no one wants to get their shit took right like if If you're dealing in secrets, I think it, look, on a certain level, secrets are necessary.
Starting point is 00:45:05 You know, espionage is a thing. You got to trade secrets. You don't, you know, you don't want your missiles getting out there. I mean, look, the Israelis were able to, was it a six-day war, I think? We're able to do so well in that because they, essentially, the Mossad does such a good job. Getting them, whatever, I guess, the anti-aircraft placements and, like, you know, all sorts of, all sorts of intelligence
Starting point is 00:45:32 about the Syrian air defense and they were able to like basically and maybe also Egypt and able to use that to basically win a war so intelligence can like really win a war
Starting point is 00:45:41 I mean when you're us and you're basically just bombing the shit of people and your intelligence is telling you they have you know huge weapons cashes they don't have it doesn't seem likely
Starting point is 00:45:52 that intelligence can win a war but when you're a small country you can and even us it could help us probably if we actually had you know intelligence that wasn't working for the financial sector but whatever I digress
Starting point is 00:46:02 but it's a valid reason to have secrets I guess and you know there are I mean look you can't realistically you know you can't we're going to make trying to competitive advantage in war I'm not trying to be a see-so here but like that's the problem it's like the idea that like we're just trying to offend ourselves is how we can
Starting point is 00:46:24 kind of justify a lot of this shit like we're always and like it really is we're the ones starting most of these wars and doing it best of, you know, if not military industrial entities, then, you know, then companies, like, you know, United Fruit or fucking BP, um, or dull sugar, uh, so whatever, um, I don't accept the premise, but that being said, look, of course, we'll just put a pin in that and go, yeah, people want their secrets and it's not crazy. So, when it's got a guy like Snowden comes out, or a guy like, fucking, you know, Julian Assange comes, well, Snow's a little,
Starting point is 00:47:00 different. I think he actually stolen himself. But Julian Assange has a situation where he goes, hey, you know, WikiLeaks, as far as I know, the whole idea of WikiLeaks is they built a server where you could send to them and they wouldn't know who you are. It's like really anonymous. And people scoff at that.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Now, I don't know enough about hacking to know it was not bad, you know. Of course, you had a backdoor who knew they were. I mean, look, the people sending him shit weren't necessarily like, you know, idiots either. So I don't know Whatever Point is that's the idea I think it's a place to dump your shit
Starting point is 00:47:35 So you can get it out there And yeah The stuff that got released Was all valid shit It's all fucking valid shit It's all real shit No one's saying it's not real So like
Starting point is 00:47:47 I don't know what kind of And forgive my language Kind of fucking cuck you have to be For this government It's not a government cuck Where you go Oh he stole our secrets from daddy. He stole daddy's secrets and you're going to fucking start whining about it and go,
Starting point is 00:48:03 oh, we should get him. Oh, he got Trump alike because he stole daddy's secrets. Fuck you. All right? This, you should be applauding this man. Not necessarily for the rape. If the rape is real, don't applaud him. But for everything else, applauding this man. I mean, I'm sure he made a mess in Ecuadorian embassy. He probably left hot pocket rappers everywhere. But for everything else, applauding this man for fucking getting this shit out there you should applaud whenever information comes out you know if these
Starting point is 00:48:31 dumb fucks are too bad you know their jobs to fucking you know not get spied on I don't give a fuck and these secrets shouldn't be secrets anyway these secrets aren't like launch codes for nuclear weapons they're fucking you know
Starting point is 00:48:44 telling us about secret spying programs on American citizens in the case of Julius Snowden or Assange that collateral murder video was a big one the embassy yeah if i'm sure it fucked up diplomacy for the political interest of this fucking country for you know in a few cases but you know what it's good to see how cynical the state department acts and how these fucking people act don't fucking act like some oh he took danny's secrets oh you're fucking pussies you're all such fucking bitches if you think that you fucking act
Starting point is 00:49:17 you're the greatest generation wherever the fuck i fought numb and you're afraid that some fucking state department cables are going to come out You fucking punks, I am so sick and tired of these fucking fake tough guys who fucking go over there and they fucking, whatever they do. I'm sure some of them save each other and act like, you know, we're heroes who save each other. Maybe you save some kid one time, but you're part of this fucking apparatus. It goes over here and blows up countries, basically, for profit, and you come back and you go, oh, we're here. Memorial Day, we're a hero. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I mean, I applaud. I don't think most people who do it are on the frequency of knowing all this shit before they do it so i'm not like saying they're monsters or but like and you're sure you acted with valor you know you're fucking i mean you seem very nervous about someone stealing your valor it's like oh god like once you grow up oh you're stealing valor some guy died in the thing i died in a thing he made up he fucked up you know it's not fucking my i'm not saying you know fuck the guy stealing the valor too but like this idea like this is some great thing oh you shouldn't be able to fucking use this uniform you didn't kill enough kids to wear this uniform like
Starting point is 00:50:23 shut up like it's heroic to go but like you know if you just storm into a fucking room because you heard there's a rapist and you start punching people it's like yeah i guess you were being heroic sort of but like what you want me to do like give you a medal for punching a bunch of innocent people because he thought it was a rape we thought there was a rapist all right but like there wasn't and you kind of acted pretty brashly and now some fucking kids got his jaw broken because he thought he was a rapist and it's like yeah i was trying to stop to rapist i get it like i'm not saying that you're a bad person at heart kind of dumb maybe but you know you should have just accepted there was a rapist there and like but whatever maybe we were all kind
Starting point is 00:51:03 of very excited a few minutes ago i get it we all had your temperatures were running a little hot and you thought there was a rapist and you punched that you know fit 14 year old kid and now he's gonna have you have jaw surgery whatever you see i'm going with this i don't blame the troops per se uh but let's not i feel like you know there's a moral hazard you're create when you fucking act like, you know, everything's heroic. And my point is, even if we put the pin in that, these same fuckers are, I mean, maybe not all the same guys, but they seem to be the guys who go, uh, Julian, son just now and be fucking die. Fuck you, all right?
Starting point is 00:51:37 I don't know what you, why, how you can think this country is working for you. Like, when this whole, this whole thing's a fucking sham. This is why it's like, whatever. Blow it up. I don't know. I mean, I am not advocating anyone, but like, I don't let me blow it up. I mean, you know, if China, it's like, you know, if we're going to be in a war, I guess we keep fighting. I mean, because you can't wait again. You let China win or anyone win the war of Sweden.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You can't. And that's where we land. You got to keep fighting, I guess. It's got to point. We're going to collide into a war. Then we have to fight, even though all the other wars we didn't have to. Happy Memorial Day. Happy Memorial Day.
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Starting point is 00:53:31 They got 18 federal charges now I'm not sure if I can do anything about that I was going to try to get a lawyer With his Patreon money But we can't afford a lawyer Is that good So we're going to have to go back to the drawing board But thanks for donating to my Patreon
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