Kump - 24 - Daddy Wants What He Wants w/ Tim Dillon

Episode Date: June 27, 2019

Ray and Tim reunite to discuss their fatness, Tim's struggle with quitting dairy, and the connection between gender identity and futurism.  

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one of the most empty apartments of our... You're not moving out today, are you? No, it's... We've never had furniture. It's... I kind of like that we don't, except when we need to do something like this where we need to sit down.

We're sitting on the floor, basically. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we're in that scene in boiler room where like everything's empty so we just got burned. Well, no, that was a house they owned. That was a different. That was a guy that owned the house

who just couldn't furnish it because he was a go, no, I'm thinking about when they were like when they go into an empty office building? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm barely here now, and when I come here, I kind of like that there's nothing here.

Something nice about when it's, like, really clean, and my room's clean, everything's clean, and there's no furniture. Well, I used to come here, it's full of garbage. Right. There was like two garbage cans that were full. Yeah, I like it now that it is, wherever you live in New York is what people don't realize, is a shithole. Right. Like, until you have millions of dollars, I have friends that pay five grand a month in Chelsea, and you go into their apartments, you go, oh, this sucks. yeah like it's this in chelsea you know it's just how much they pay five grand a month

they don't that's that's like who's living is that bankers like what's not going to say the comedian their name oh it's a comedian yeah all right so i think about wall street guys doing this everyone's doing it yeah what do you think you get for five grand in new york not a lot i mean you go live in crown heights do something nice who's doing that i'd do that it's an hour and a half you get a pool in crown heights an hour and a half commute to where you need to be you get a pool in crowd heights above ground heights above a waiting pool

pool of blood it's getting better but it's all okay you know people are just like hey I want to I want to go to the here's my gym here's where I get my smoothie

here's my fucking office and then what am I doing I just go home and collapse no one's enjoying their home look I mean some people like the atmosphere nobody has a family anymore people barely having sex

what sex It's just people mush their soft dick against some pussy and everybody's just too autistic people. You have that same problem? Grown. Well, you know what? It's hard to get hard when you're fat. Yeah, the circulation.

Very tough. I've gotten better at it. Well, I'm going to start taking pills. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I took it at one point, Seattleis. I haven't had a problem lately. I've been much better getting hard the past few years.

I think I'm just going to be a, just let people fuck me. Yeah, that's the benefit of being gay. I'll just lay there Like fuck me I wish I had the option I wish I mentioned it to my girlfriend Lucy Both nor love is disgusting But I've said

Hey why don't you like Do some of the work sometimes Get a strap on Yeah And she's not like She'll do it for me if I want it But she's not into it I mean that's my thing

I think I'm just gonna You know I get what am I gonna be doing Gymnastics I mean you could get I want to lose weight Yeah I want to lose weight We've been talking about this for a while

Did you join the gym Since the last time we You know I joined Planet Fitness you did and then I moved I moved to California you kept saying you wouldn't go to a plan of fitness like you were you were against

I joined a very expensive gym what did you join it's called I don't know if you plug them fuck it's Soma in Williamsburg I never go there anyway yeah

and it's like it's like a hundred bucks a month that was part of your membership they're like listen we'll give you $15 off you're to never walk in here you're not allowed to use this gym I went like you could come at 3 a.m.

I went for like a week is right by work so I'll go I'll go on my lunch break What if? I always thought to be funny if a guy like me or you went to a gym eating

and tried to get people to be fat again like just kind of walked to eating pizza and being that guy What's that gym that has the pizza parties? Planet Fitness.

Planet Fitness in Long Island has I think it was Tuesday night at one point it was pizza night and it was like cheat guy and it was all these fat Long Island First of all planet is $10 a month

I've been paying every month. I've been paying every month. I don't, I've probably been paying for years. I'm actually paying for two gyms right now. Yeah. I sell my Blink account, Blink Fitness. I'm so fat. I have two gym accounts.

When did you join Blink? Like two years ago, I guess. But it's like 20 bucks. You don't even think about that. It's like a hack premise of a joke, but it's like you cannot cancel gyms. Right. No, like. You have to write a ladder, right?

You have to, like, you, if I want to cancel, like, if I cancel today, it won't go into effect for like 45 days. Yeah. So they get you, because it was at one point, like, a year and a half ago, like, fuck this, I'm not going. I'm going to cancel. I remember being on the subway and seeing that, and like, because I needed the money like that. I don't want to build my account. Like, I'm short on money.

And then it was like, well, we're still going to believe it for this month, but next month maybe we'll take it off. And I'm like, fuck it. Maybe I will go. Yeah. Because, you know, that's thing. Like, people who, if you're canceling a $20 gym membership, you need the money now. You need some smack. Dude, there's a fucking.

There's a gym right up the block from my house in L.A. And it's like 200 a month. It's a little shitty gym It's not that big But people there will spend that fucking money Because that is a priority there Right It's a priority that they look good

Like I am so Like I could lose No joke Right 50 to 70 pounds You lose 100 But no here's what I'm thinking Let me make my fucking point

And I would still be fat Yeah Oh yeah Fairly I'd be fat Right With 75 down Oh yeah

I'd be fat. Right. People would be coming up to be like, hey, you could, you could, you could, you could change your life.

I'd be like, I just changed my life. Right. I'm trying to think who like a fat, like, like Jason Alexander is like obese in like Hollywood terms. Yeah. I mean like all,

and I'm not even talking about now. I'm talking like, you know, on science. The kind of fat, Tom Segura. Yeah. Krecher.

Right. Like those guys are like, you know, you might be the piano. You can't be gelatinous fat. See, gelatinous fat bothers everyone. Yeah. gelatinous fat where it doesn't have a place to go.

We wear in a polo shirt and sticks out of the back. Yeah. Sometimes I go to, the only store that I can shop in in L.A. is called Rochester Big and Tall. Okay, it's in perfect. They won't even call it DXL. It's like Rochester Big and Tall.

Well, Rochester's the high end line of DXL. Oh, is it? But it's the same shit. Yeah. It's the same shit. But you can't have Rochester and Beverly Hills. Right. So it's in the middle of Beverly Hills, right down a block for my agent, right by Ocean Prime, all this shit.

And I go in and I, I, I, I, I, It's like, who shops here? Football players, DJ Khalid, fat lawyers, and me. So I go in, the shirts are all a buck, all like a hunch for anything. Oh, sure. For anything. No, because when you go into these places, they know they have you with the balls. That's it.

Where else are you going to go? You, like, it's so embarrassing. Like, sometimes I'll be with a friend. They'll be like, hey, man, you want to stop in this, you'd probably get a shirt. You get a hoodie here. I'm like, dude, dude. Yeah. And then I blame it on my shoulders.

My shoulders are big. Right. But that's what I do. I go, I got these big shoulders. I can't get a... So when I go to Rochester, there's two options. There's a blanket. You wear a blanket.

Or the shirt I get, if it gets washed one time, is like a midriff. Right. It's that's, there's no perfect size shirt when you're my level of fat. When you're fat, like I'm fat, like you're fat, yeah. Clothes are not meant for you. You have to go with a dry cleaner. You got to go to dry clear

That's not like a luxury for us That's a necessity Yeah Anything it's not like I mean Or you'd go to the route I went years ago You always make fun of my t-shirts

Because they're Under Armour Micro-Polyester shit Yeah But you make fun of them But they don't shrink in the dryer And this is why Don't you get a rash No I don't get a rash

Maybe I'll try I'm Why should also just lose weight It's hard You shit in one hand And you know Right

It's my mouth It's hard to When you're fat People don't understand this is like a big misconception right people that like there's this new like fat

movement where it's like yavs bitch you're a big bitch and Lizzo's a killer her BET performance is amazing you see that I thought that black chick

she's so good it's better than that have you seen this new Billy Eilish who's an MK ultra victim who's bleeding out of her eyes in the videos she's being rape

I don't know for sure but that seems to be a rape aesthetic this is whatever this says I'm like What? It's troubling. I used to be one of those guys who was like,

oh, no, this imagery in the video is probably nothing. Now I'm like, dude, this is a ritual. Yeah. I'm like, this is scary. No, like me and Lucy were talking about in our podcast. Yeah. About how, like, they're literally shooting in what seems like the same house as they shoot porn in. And, like, they should be out of late downs.

And here's the other thing. It is one of those funny, like, white black things. Yeah. Because, like, Lizzo's out there playing a flute, jumping around, singing, singing well. Yeah. And Billy Eilish just murmurs. She goes, Huh,

Satan, you know? Fuck me. Daddy, please more. Say 10. It's crazy. And I'm like, but when you're fat, people don't realize

what a production it is to find something that makes you look just a little less fat. Right. Just a tight, because you're never not going to look fat.

Oh, yeah. But it's just a little bit just to shave off a little role because that's what we're all trying to do we're just trying to have the shirt hit the roll

in the right way you want to bunch up like a hot dog yeah you you want people to think like maybe there's not a role under there right

you want people to look at you you know the goal is like I don't know what they are Samoans or like some people some race like cultures are Samoans fat people

and like I think Orwell described it and he wrote his Burmese days he was living in Myanmar or whatever Burma is called back then

and he described how they weren't fat the way Englishmen gets fat, they have this beautiful, round, symmetrical bodies. But, like, we just get, like, all we have all these fucking wrinkles. Well, me and I think you, to an extent, too, but I'm not supposed to be fat. Right. I have abused my, like, my waist is kind of small, and then I just, I have, you know,

a very fat stomach, and it's very bad. Yeah. But when I give up cheese, my skin clears up and I start to lose weight. Right. But here's the problem. My stomach starts to get weird, because I'm losing, like, probiotics or something. something? I don't think cheese is probiotic. No, but dairy, I give up all dairy.

Dairy's not probiotic. There is probiotics. No, no, you could, look. Everyone, why does my stomach get weird? Probably because it's the same way you get withdrawal when you quit heroin. That's true. I mean, all I've ever heard for the past three or four years is like, I quit

cheese, old dairy, I lost 100 pounds, I feel amazing. My skin cleared up. It's true. But no one's ever said, like, I'm missing an essential nutrient. I quit dairy And I'm telling you right now I went off dairy for a month

My skin was better Yeah I was Dude I was feeling so much better But I'll tell you right now Fuck A slice of pizza And I don't even relapse with good pizza

I relapse with Papa Papa John Papa Johns Or Dominoes Because I want to hurt my Yeah That stuff literally like hurts your tongue It cuts your tongue open

Oh it's an acidic sauce Yeah it's like have Founders' favorite. Founders' favorite. What is this? It's like pepperoni sausage and a seasoning combo. It's an old, dirty, you used to say.

Is it a brand? Italian guy's sweat and Parmesan. Oh, yeah. Founders' favorite is Papa John's pizza. It's just a dirty, filthy. And that's why I relift. And then I come to New York and have nice pizza and nice things.

Right. But it's bad. And here's the thing in L.A., dude. Oh, because they don't have good pizza in L.A. You can get now coconut ice cream. It's fine. The coconut milk ice cream you can get that? it's pretty good.

Right. Like, it's pretty... This vegan pizza, apparently, it's really good. What, cashew cheese? I guess so. I don't know about that. I mean, people seem to like it. But here's the other thing.

I should just say to myself, you know what you've had enough of? Like, if you dropped out tomorrow, nobody would be like, I wish he had more ice cream and cheese. Well, I don't know if you had... I have a five-minute bit about ice cream in my act. Yeah.

It's no longer in it, but... Are you stopped doing it? Yeah, I don't really do. I do it sometimes. Sometimes people get mad if I don't do it. It's a good time filler if you're bombing. It's a good way to get him involved. But do you have the same issue where like,

so you look at the guy and he's like thin and like decent shape and he's eating a salad? Like, why are you eating a salad? Like you don't have to eat this. And it's like, but that's what is the difference. That's why. That's why they're not fat. But dude, a lot of my friends eat bacon cheeseburgers and are just thin.

Right. My friends my whole life. You hang out with Twink who are 19 years old. Listen, daddy wants what he wants. I don't need somebody running their mouth. I want a nice, young, positive person around me. Not some 34-year-old He's going to be like,

you know, my mother's sick. Hey, out, out. My friend called me, I met some kid and my friend goes, man, he's a man. And my friend goes, my friend looked at his Instagram and he goes, he's father's dead. And I went, really?

And then he goes, yeah, you didn't notice that? And I was like, not really. And I was like, he goes, father's dead. And I just went, oh, good, good, good. He needs a father. But no, I would like to be thinking. Why did you notice that his father's dead? When you picked him up from school, his father wasn't there?

What's going on? No, on his Instagram, there's a post with him and his dad. I miss you, dad, I love you. Oh, who is this shit? But I don't read the caption. I don't read the caption. I just thought it was some other old dude he was fucking. So there's some old guy.

But I would like to be, listen, before I die, I would like to be a guy who gets up every day. Yeah. Goes down to Santa Monica. Like, I would love, what's my perfect L.A. life? I kind of want to live by the beach. which I don't now I want to be a guy

because I was a kid who did this swimming every day you feel amazing I want to go back to that right so we were like when you were 10 he was a while ago right

it was a long time I prefaced it by saying child so are you trying to be one you want to be one of those guys I see in movies who are like in their underwear rollerblading like those kind of like

no I want to be a guy who's lost so much weight but still looks like shit right No, here's what I really want to do. I just want to be a guy who's cute fat where it's like the type of fat where somebody grabs it a little like,

look at you, cutie, your little chubby, you're a little chubby. I don't want to be a guy. Like, I want to be able to go and swim in the ocean and feel good and not smoke cigarettes, which I don't do, but like my friend's like, you've been doing it for a year. I'm like, I don't smoke. I just smoke occasionally.

He's like, you've been doing that for a year. You're a smoker. Yeah, I see you once every like a couple months probably, whatever. And every time I see you're like, oh, I got, I got a quiz. These clips, these Instagram clips got me smoking. And like, it's every time. It's funnier when I smoke. It is.

It also feels better when you smoke. People want you to die. Here's the thing. People don't realize they want you to be dead. What happens to this generation of kids? Like, when did it stop being? It was always dangerous. Like, we didn't grow up thinking it was like safe.

Yeah. But like, when did it stop being cool? Because it's definitely It's still cool to be Here's the thing When I said Louis showing up It's gang fest was cool

Right Everyone shit themselves And I'm like You don't understand What cool means Yeah Cool doesn't mean It's a moral victory

Right Cool means that it was cool It was underground It was something That mainstream society Look down on That's what cool's always meant to me

Sure But people Now This generation of kids Things cool is That cool is like Donating your time To charity

And doing well On a test And like Loving your mom your mom is great that's what cool it and I'm like no it's not cool is stealing their money

and buying coke I mean like that I think you were pushing the envelope even for cool as a kid but it's still in the middle it's somewhere in the middle was that did you tell those were you like holding court

when you were in a high school talking about like would you tell these stories in high school about like I was doing them oh you were still in your drug phase back then oh yeah I thought you got over it by the time he got in high school

25 oh you're right I would switch drugs, switch it up. But no, but look, the whole thing with Louie, it's like, look, I'm not going to. I thought it was Louis Anderson. I mean, I would love it. He's the cheap. Is he dead? He used to give guys, he used to, he would suck a guy's dick and buy him a car.

I mean, was he that bad blow jobs? No, he would suck a guy, like some straight guy, he'd be like, I want to suck your dick here, 10 grand. That's insane. It's great. He was he making that kind of, I mean, he's a cartoon money, I guess. I think he's got crazy money Yeah Look Louis Anderson was a fat guy

But like If he offered you a thousand To let you suck If you had suck Louis's dick All right fine I think these were like straight guys That were like Ugh

I have a thousand These are all weird fetishes Yeah The money's what That's part of it Like somebody said My opener This kid Luke said the other night

He made a good He goes You think Louis's still doing it Is he still Because once you're into something Sexually You're kind of just into it I don't know

But I mean Honestly You think he's still like Running around Doing stuff Nile thing. I remember I used to want. But that's how you get off doing that, you've got to find a way to do it in a safe way. I remember

the time period when this was supposedly was happening. And he was going through a weird bunch. Like I used to, he'd hear him on O&A a lot. And he, like, he'd got in divorce or whatever. And, like, he was going on O&A and, like, just saying the craziest shit every day. Right. I'd be like, O&A were even, like, worried that he was going to get them

in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was going through, like, a weird dark time. He's just going on, like... I think he was like a flasher when he was young. Oh, was he? Didn't he talk about that? Or like Sarah Sylve from his sister did, I think maybe. Yeah, look, I'm not say he's definitely like doing it. It's a genius.

Leave alone. Look, you're the genius. I'm not going to see here and go, like, look, there is the type of people who go, like, look, he did his time. And like, the rational response I've heard that is kind of like, people are like, well, I mean, it's been a year. Can we like, well, you can ever work again? All right, well, it's been a year.

It's not like, he's still a millionaire. Like, even if he is going to work again. Like, he doesn't have to come back this quickly. I'm not making a case either way. I'm just saying, like, I'm not, everyone who has a problem with them, I'm not saying they're always wrong. Here's what I don't get. We're going, like, we're trying to start a war with fucking Iran.

Right. No, I'm going to, and, like, we're fucking, these kids are still in fucking, I get to that we can worry about two things at once, but these kids are still in cages. And, like, and people are going to go, well, you like, you like, you like, who gives us shit? People, truly. truly I think human beings are as selfish a group of people like it's just in our DNA it's maybe part of the natural way to survive self-preservation looking out for yourself but it's a level of it's a level of selfishness that has that is fascinating to me

and whenever somebody starts going on and on about politics like you look how many selfless acts are there you know what I mean yeah like how many people

that are real concerned don't have a podcast or they're not trying to be a senator or they're like there are people you'll meet them

if you actually care like there are people out there in like the inner cities or whatever or like just small communities who like just help the homeless and like just like you know

yeah people that give up lucrative careers and like in medicine or in law. They do medicine, but they do doctors or have borders and shit. You know, so it was very interesting because those people look down on, right? Yeah.

I was talking to somebody, and they go, my brother's getting a divorce, and this woman, she helps kids with cancer, like she makes the end of their life better. Like, that's her job. Well, she, like, play some fucking raffy while she's, like, some others?

Who knows? But she works in, like, a hospice or whatever? Yeah. She goes, her job is like, work with the family and work with the kids to make the kids' life better towards the end. And then I'm like, and then I said, wow, that's amazing. And then the person said to me, yeah, but those people are kind of weird. They look down on, because in our society, they are. Right. Like, we're so sick.

It's so bad that try to talk to anyone about just like growing your own food or something. something, they'll be like, what are you, a prepper? You're a survivalist? You're all right? You're the Klan? Like, any Terrence McKenna type shit of like, let's think a little deeper, let's think outside the paradigm, any fucking like... By the way, grow your own food, you'll need to be on the asses to grow your own food. No, but any type of like, let's self-actualize through something.

Right. Whether it's a psychedelic, whether it's meditation, whether it's, fucking like, people look at you like you're insane. Yeah. And, you know, if you don't have social media now, people look at you like you're insane. Have you heard about just 432 hertz music? No, what is that? It's this music that like, because in Western music mostly, supposedly, A is tuned to 440 hertz.

But in the eastern civilizations, like Tibet, there was 432 hertz. And that's the resonance of the universe. This is like the Mandela effect where they find two books Once it's Barrenstein bears Once it's Barrenstein bears And they prove And they go oh there's just two dimensions

Or something No it's totally different But it's also valid But this is the residence Of the universe This is the problem You're talking to shit I like it

I like it You have to go deep Into horseshit Like But here's the thing man I'm so bored Of our culture Yeah

It's a rotted culture Oh yeah It's boring It's uninteresting I don't care But either side Because now we're in a binary and then no one really is

because you just meet people in the world and they just suck they don't suck to a side they just suck and I'm over it and I'm kind of like starting to read about Eastern shit

and I'm starting to get weird right I'm starting to read about like future I'm starting to read futurist and like you know neural link technology when are we going to merge

when are we going to merge with the machines you want to merge with the machine why would the machine want to merge with you I'm not saying me okay I'm saying no no we're not you're going to put you

you want a syringe like robot Machines are going to beat us. Machines will probably beat us on a show. I love the idea that we're going to meld with machines. Well, no, the DARPA is, they say DARPA is 20 years ahead of us, technology-wise. The book on DARPA, they talk a lot about Neurrelink. Elon Musk was like, listen.

It was definitely going to happen for sure. Elon Musk is like, listen, you open the Pandora thing with AI. They read every book that's ever written. They read how they were created in an instant. Well, then they're going to look at us like a bug. Yeah. So in order to not have them. step on us, we have to merge

with them. So it's interesting. That to me is more interesting. That's what I believe all this is. This is what I believe all the gender stuff is now. I think we're getting ready to break down and head to the post-human era. And I'm with it. Sure. I don't think like the non-binary, they, them stuff, whatever. To me, it's either fashion and it'll go away. Or what I think is I think the real problems are technology

and it's not so much gender expression as much as it is we are now starting to see the effects of a very mentally ill population that's been eating a lot of sugar and poison now

essentially living a large chunk of their lives in this digital sphere and they're kind of breaking down logic and reason all of these things We're in a post-fact era. I don't think anyone cares. And I think this, we're getting ready

because I think we're getting ready for the leap. We've got to make the leap. I mean, this sounds optimistic. Now, I don't know that non-binary just really falls into this, but in general, I agree with the whole... It absolutely does. And I'll tell you why. It's, when you say there's like 400 genders.

Well, look, when you go that far, sure. I mean, I never understand that. That is it. I know people who are non-binary and they just, they just stay them. And it's like, so I never met someone who has to be called Zer. I'm just saying. What about, what about her map? What happened to her map?

What about people that are legitimately non-binary. But that's like... Explain to me what non-binary. Explain it to me. It's very simple. Yeah, is it? Go. Is it?

I'm sure they'd love that. I'm sure they'd love you saying that, sis-het man. Explain it to me. with a straight face. It's a person who doesn't identify as either a man or a woman. Meaning what? Meaning like...

What is a man and a woman? Well, exactly, but that's my... That's why I kind of get it because the whole idea of men and women as far as, look, you have a digger of a vagina, you can say that, that's sex, but whatever. Is it separate... I get the arguments like people might say,

but like, my point is this. Everything else, the whole like, a man knows this, the woman does this. It's invalid. But it's not... I remember, like, as a kid, feeling like I couldn't do certain things because I was a boy. Gender expression

is largely cultural to an extent. Sure. Some of it's a construct. Some of it is biological wiring. Some of it may be. So what is the... Like the Spanish language. A Spanish language like half the objects have like male and female pronouns for no reason. It's a weird affectation

that society... But it's no reason you're identifying a male or a female person with those pronouns. No, I'm talking about like that pen that well it's the pen is female because it's La Pluma, but L. Radio is male. It's crazy talk.

What's crazy talk? What's crazy talk? I'll tell you what's crazy talk. What's crazy talk is people substituting gender identity for personality. There are an innumerable amount of personalities and you can feel like a man in the evening and a woman

in the morning and no one gives a fuck and you can fuck whoever you want. And I'll even go with non-barant. You can call yourself anything you want. But let's not pretend that this isn't a... Look at who's doing this. It's white middle class

chicks at college. That's who it is. That's who it is. They don't want to be the oppressor. No, I get it to the point where it's like as long as you're going to make a big deal about whatever. Camille Pat... Go ask Camille Paglis.

Considers herself legit transgender. I know people who put their cock in their body. It's a pussy now. I support the fuck out of that You mean it's getting to surgery That's yeah It's called being transgent Like they're like

I'm in the wrong body Right I have gender dysphoria Legit I need that to be corrected Right Person who's not always dysphoria No

I've watched this contrapoints A woman great Great trans woman Which is a great YouTube channel Check it out I'm like yes I love that you think any of these people

Are ever going to give you work This is what's fascinating This is what's fascinating you, is you think that any of these people download, because people were nice to you in Brooklyn, because you're very funny, if you had performed in Manhattan,

they would have been nice to you too, but we performed together in Brooklyn, and they like you because you're a wacky outside of the box guy. I don't even like those people. But you think that any of these people are going to ever look at you as anything other than an ogre who represents everything they hate

about the world. I have, look, I have principles that exist No one's going to give me work. You think I'm trying to get in the industry? You really feel like when a woman goes to Oberlin College or wherever, and she's sitting there and she goes, by the way, everybody, I'm they, them. Or when a big actor or someone does, I'm they them now. And you ask them to explain why.

And their explanation is that I don't identify with traditionally male or female traits, which, okay, you don't have to. Who said you had to? Look, I agree that, you know, the biggest sin of identity politics. Sucking dick is in a traditionally masculine trait. Who can't, like, people can have all kinds of things in them. So I'm just confused. And by the way, it's not just non-bite.

If it was just like third option, we're great. It's not just that. You know it's not just that. I know in theory it's not like that. And there's also people that are now saying that science is a construct. because it was done by white men. No, that's where I completely drool. Oh, good.

That's when you get off the boat. That's when you get off the boat. Science. Before you get into international waters open, you get off in a canal. Right. Get off in a canal. Well, I'm sorry.

If someone says, hey, don't call him him or her. Why give him a fuck? This is America. Do your thing. I don't give a shit. Those pronouns are only used in the third person.

I've never even talked about, I've never talked about anyone but myself. Look, it's a little annoying. It's a little annoying to get used to. I've done it, though. I better do it. I will call someone they, I don't care, it doesn't bother me. Right.

But I'm saying, let's be honest about what a lot of this seems to be. I agree that. What a lot of it seems to be is gobbledy gook from pseudo-intellectuals who are trying to invent protected classes of people who are wealthy white people. This is wealthy white people going, you know what? I want to cash in on the victim train. I grew up in Massachusetts I go to a great school

but I have too been fucked How? Because my mother baked cookies and I didn't want to Because I was like that whore It's like dude then be you be You can be a dyke You can be gay These people, a lot of these not barney people

They're not even gay They're not even gay Look I agree that there's this Moral Hazard Whatever you call there People like when you give Like the legitimate shit When people are legitimately wronged

And then you like say You people have been wrong and we need to correct this There's always been the risk that some people Will use it as like a crutch Who calls himself by gender I'm by gender like what guys What are we doing? Yeah

Where are we going now? And here's a question It's a decent question What? Okay, I'll call you that Is that where it ends? No Right no

Doesn't end there Well where's the next logical place for it to go? Well, if a boy who's five puts on a dress, we're going to give him hormones and make him a girl. Yeah, that's very sketchy.

Instead of just letting him grow up and potentially realize his sexual identity and gender, whatever, in his own time. So we're giving children hormones so their liberal parents can parade them around. Oh, my son's transgender. My daughter's transgender. These poor kids, I mean, this is a problem.

No, look, that definitely gets sketchy, for sure. I mean, like, the whole kid with the kids, the hormones. Yeah, yeah. Here's my thing. I'm not I'm not even a libertarian anymore. I don't even pretend to use the term. But, like, when I, to whatever the sense it resonates with me, it was never

just Coke brothers, like, you know, let's fucking, you know, give tax breaks to the rich and then just poison it's well. No, you were right. It's the idea of like, yeah, just do your thing with the white, give a fuck. Why am I in your shit? And that's like what this country used to be, also slavery, but also, like, yeah, do your own thing.

Do your own thing, but you're going to be on this feel. Be on this field doing it. You sing the song you want to sing, but you better produce. Right. But there was at least this kernel of that. And I feel like that's gotten lost. I don't know why, like, this hysteria. I was watching something. The hysteria that people

are the conservatives hide behind of like oh, my daughter's going to get raped because some trans person wants to piss somewhere. Conservatives are idiots. Right. Many of them are idiots. They're, a lot of them will very easily his country could slip very easily into fascism

you saw the Trump kids you know, take them down they did that song I'm not a religious conservative Romarin you know Chelsea Manning tire up burner you know they keep putting this poor woman in jail

It's crazy They just won't stop putting Chelsea Manning in jail It's crazy But this is But we're worried about Louis But my whole thing With the non-barnier stuff is like Dude, if it ended there, it's fine.

It never ends. It's always more and more and more. It's always don't give a girl a doll. Don't give a boy of this. Men and women, there's no innate biological differences. And they've done so. Look, there are definitely some innate biological differences. And even like the culture is developed.

You know, it's hilarious. It's erased gay people now. Right. Because here's the deal. I'm attracted to men. If you're a woman and you tell me you identify as a man, it doesn't really matter to me because you have a vagina. Right.

And if I tell you, I identify as a woman Are you allowed to only like cock? Because I'm like, you're not, you're not supposed to say you. Like, I mean, it's not nice to say, I guess. I say whatever the fuck I want. No, of course. And that's what my audience wants. That's right.

That's right, boys. Like, would you get in trouble saying, like, because people get in trouble in, for like saying that they don't want to trans. Like, if they don't want to be a trans person. Yeah, because we're living in an insane time. That's the thing. It's like, I struggle in my whole life to tell people I like Dick.

Now I'm not supposed to say that. Right. Dude, I'm attracted to men. It's biologically wired in me. Whether it's nature, nurture, I think a lot of it's nature, but whatever, people, I know lesbians that are attracted to women, if I say, hey, I'm a chick. They go, you got a dick, I'm not into it. Right. So this whole movement flies in the face of, it's getting real crowded in that LGBTIQ2-1278-54.

Look, here's a problem. Here's where it gets messy for me. Just like when people start talking about, like, you know, well, you know, don't about anything to do with black people. It's like, well, yeah, after you ended slavery. you still like 100 years of Jim Crow or 75 years. Like let's not pretend like like we did the right thing and then like it's all equal. Like in the same thing with gender

is like all right so like for thousands of years women are basically you know on some level. Jordan Peterson would argue with me but subjugated or considered like you less than. You couldn't vote until 1930. What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? What are you doing? It's no one saying

they should be subjugated. No I'm talking about people that. What I'm saying is you ever see that Tom's the funniest thing ever? where he goes, on that morning news show, he goes, I'm astral gender. And they're like, what? He goes, I'm a gender from outer space. We're watching that after this podcast.

I am not a hateful person. No, no, you don't. And that is also not true. No, but here's what I do. I get, dude, I'm all about cool. I'm all about doing shit. We all fucking left Long Island. We would come to the city as kids.

We'd see shit. We'd be like, oh, this is cool. This is underground. there's something weird to me about trying to institutionalize every fucking thing be whatever you want to be why are you instituting it into law

well I mean depends on what we're talking about but I sure I mean we're saying that why are you instituting it into law that if somebody happens to misgender you because you fucking look like if you have a beard if you have a beard right and somebody says you're a dude why are you trying to make this a fucking legal

any of them didn't Peterson like before like like I look at theory I can agree with this fat pig oh you know you better clean your room you're big fat pig what you're trying to do I mean like didn't he also him and his wife try to get some other

like anti-gay marriage law going before this I don't know I'm not I don't give a shit about him you got to save your father from the belly I thought of Jesus beat him in that debate did you watch that debate it seemed like you're both jerk each other off. Slava was much

funnier, much cooler. It's like me. No, but he was cool. He was very funny. He's like, he's like, what I come from? I can't even imitate him. He's like, when I come from, he's like, we are really into the place I come from, Serbia, whatever, Belgrade. I don't know. He's like, we are very envious people.

So even if Jeannie comes to us, he goes, I will do one thing for you and I'll do it double for your neighbor. You go, okay, good, take my eye. You know, like you just want to fuck down. But he was funnier. Peterson had not really read a lot of marks. He just went up there with a, he skimmed through the

Communist Manifesto in the car on the way there. And it wasn't like clear, but even Peters's fans, like he should have been more prepared. So I'm not, I don't even shit like about Peter. I think some of the stuff he says is good. I just look at, so I look at these people online arguing and they're arguing about something and somebody

said blah, blah, blah, blah, woman. And then somebody goes, okay, I'm actually not a woman. It's like, oh, this has become a Trump card in an argument. Sure. This has become a way to get a career. This has become a way to get a detention, attention. You're distinguishing yourself. You're basically saying, okay. And listen, I'm very open to that I'm wrong here.

I think I'm going to call it right now. I think in 10 years, this is going to be like bell bottoms. I think it's going to be like, remember when your mother called herself them? I really think it is. I think it's fashion. And that Gavin McGinnis said it and everyone's going to be like, oh you're copying Gavin no this is

Gavin used fashion to mean a lot of things I just mean this particular thing it's the craze of the moment I think look there's always gonna be that and because especially because it's not even like unlike being like let's say someone you know because people argue like

oh people go to college and they pretend to be gay and like they you know they're fad and like yeah some people might have done there some people might experiment but like you know I think the gender roles, it's not like, look, first of all, women, yeah, they're doing much better now they were, but it's still shit going on. But this is not, here's the thing. No, here's my thing. What I'm saying is, it's not like you have these two equal things, right? Man and women,

and there's no baggage to it. And then, like, no one's talking about that. I'm talking about, listen to me, I'm saying is, you have this whole dynamic of, like, people associate what we call feminine things. Like, you know, you're not saying everyone's, like, wearing a dress like Jewish Cleaver, but, you know, so I'm like, whatever the feminine role is. And there is that in society like a large predominance of it there's an obvious feminine role and you know and some people associate with you know whatever

so explain this to me yeah if gender doesn't exist or all gender expression if all gender expression right right is completely societal and cultural why when people transition do they take hormones no look the trans people

do not seem to like this non-binary thing they don't seem to be on some board with it Yeah, don't you see that as an issue? Yeah, look, is my own... Let's ask Alan. Let's ask Alan. Alan. Alan, come here.

What do you think about this, the non-binary stuff? Literally. Literally, what do you think of it? Let's be honest about it. What do you think? I don't want you to lose your network sitcom, but what do you think? Well, because I'm saying I think it's in 10 years it's going to be bell bottoms. and no one's going to care because it's not rooted in anything.

It seems to be a kind of a crazy and a fad where wealthy upper-crust white women who don't want to be considered oppressors say they don't identify as a gender when, by the way, we all have masculine and feminine traits and we all have a mix of different traits is called a personality. So the idea that there's an innumerable amount of personalities,

but there don't seem to be an innumerable amount of genders. That seems insane. What do you think? My perspective's changed. Because it has. It's changed because I don't think, do you know any transgender people? I know her. A transgender person who took her penis and made it into a vagina. And now she identifies as a woman.

She had a bomb surgery. Which is a, that is a transgender person who now identifies as a woman. But all trans people have to do that. I'm not saying they do, but I have only known her as a woman. That's a transgender person. Now, sorry, go on. So is it that big of a deal for you to treat her as a man now? Do you refuse?

Wait, she's a woman who, wait, it's a man who became a woman. Yeah, she's a woman. Okay. So when you talk to this person, do you refer them as a she? She's a she, yeah. Okay, so what's the big deal? We're not talking about, like, no operation involved. Non-binary.

Yeah, they don't want to label. they don't want to label their sexuality no they're gender sex is different from gender your biological sex is different than your gender right right yeah I understand I just have a different perspective like

because I do I mentor a transgender person a couple hours a week so for me it's like mentor what just like dealing with anxiety depression whatever what's that Are you arguing? You might have to discuss?

Yeah, but so what. So, you know. How does that change your thought? It's because you get to know the person more intimately, and now it's like, okay, is it really that big of a fucking deal to... Are they transgender or are they non-binary? Are they, they, them pronouns? Are they, do they identify as a man or a woman?

Or is a woman who's now a man or a man who's now a woman? And I'm not saying it has to be the operation. But is it someone who's identifying as the other gender? Or somebody who's saying, I'm not a gender. No, this person is not doing. So what is your person doing? This person is transitioning from a woman to a man. That's not non-binary.

Yeah. Yeah, that's, we're not one's talking about that. We're talking about... I'm more sensitive to those people. Those people? Those people? No, here's what I mean. Alan Finn, by the way.

Alan Fuchs now? What I mean is when somebody says, I'm a woman, I am... I don't identify as a woman. I don't identify as a man. Identify as the gender, Zer. Has anyone ever said to you, Zer?

I've never seen it online. No, I don't meet a lot of people, Ray. So what do you mean? I'm saying. Correct. So let's say, forget the Zar. If somebody goes, I'm they, them. Explain to me what non-binary means.

Explain it to me in a way that I can understand what non-binary means. He's going to his phone. It's like, No, we don't, look. Let's go, let's get it. Let's get it. We don't need the exact definition. The point is,

thank you, my point is, we are all non-binary. Okay. That's my point. Sometimes I feel like a woman. I get the point if you look at it. Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.

That's a great commercial. Sometimes I feel feminine. Sometimes I feel masculine. What, why is that? That's normal. Why is this? Does it make me? Am I bionary? I don't want that.

Look, if people feel like these gender... Look, because here's a problem. What about a child? If a child is seven and wears a dress, should they give the child's hormones to stop puberty? But that's like a... Okay. That's like a red... I'm not saying that should be addressed because some people are doing that. But let's not like rest everything on that. Because

yeah, we can agree with... No, but it's the same... By the way, not to say this, but after gay marriage passed, everyone's like, now people are going to be blah, blah, blah. And everyone's like, no, that's not true. And now you see it happening. See what? kids in drag kids being sexualized

people giving kids more than that I understand that surely Temple was fucking playing in porn theaters probably okay I'm saying in your house certainly Temple was getting us good even back in the day

she was really I'm saying it's like look yeah if you want to pretend like it's a slippery slope then yeah I can see like you know with 100 pronouns yeah I guess all right so there's an article on minus 18.org, right? What the? What the? What are you bringing into my podcast?

Minus 18? What is this? This person's name is Arlo. And Arlo just came out as non-binary, okay? So this is what how Arlo is defining non-binary. It's a person, it's someone who does not identify as exclusively a man or a woman. In simple terms, someone who's non-binary might feel like a mix of genders or like they have no gender at all.

That's why I said four minutes ago. But here's so my thing with that, Ray, and my thing with that. Thank you, Alan. Thank you, Alan. And with the best to Arlo. No problem with Arlo. What I'm saying is that if it was just one designation, I could say, great. But the fact that people are really pushing the narrative, that gender is a complete construct that has nothing to do with sex, biologically.

to me is very troublesome I think it's oversold honestly I think that in pursuit of in pursuit of this stuff yeah it gets oversold there's nothing you know with these people

you know there is no end to this you know it you know it there is no end to this you know it I don't know that you know it you're on this boat because you don't know where

you jump off I think some people who have as non-binary or maybe not in position that they're like 100% sure that they want to transition to a world female. And that's great.

Some people, and some people, look, not everyone is completely self-aware at all times. They know, they, and our society is fucked up enough, and we see how crazy it is. That someone's going to go, hey, I don't really identify them, like, that's the least of, like, yeah, sure, that's fine. Like, if you start asking for

85 pronouns, I agree. We're getting a little sketchy here. We're getting out of control. But, like, yeah, they, them, fine. That's not really a big, I've met these people, they're not trying to cram me to my throat. I'm not suggesting I'm not suggesting they are

I'm not suggesting they are my concern is children sure that don't know what's fucking going on because they're kids and there are a lot of people that believe

that you should be giving children hormones to block puberty and dude we don't know the medical consequences of this stuff we don't know any of that and it's not just about fucking what you want to be called.

It's fine. I'll call anyone whatever they want to be called. But when you start saying that men should be able to identify as women and then beat the shit out of women in boxing rings, when you're saying men that have a clear advantage in lots of athletic pursuits because they're bigger, have bigger muscles, they're stronger.

When you're saying they should be able to just come and clobber women, these are things that are real. And they are not... He would ask me about that. I would agree. absolutely a fact. Of course you would Ray, because you fucking know you're wrong. You're on such thin ice here with this

argument. Because my ice is like do your thing, but like the whole is do your thing. Does it mean okay, you're a woman now? I'm a woman. I can go beat up some chick. Is that do your thing? No, because like there's an actual concern there. There's an actual like maybe

maybe this is a level, you know, but that's where this goes. It's where it's going right now. But if we go there, look, that's not going to because of non-binary. that's going there because of trans issues I'm saying that the umbrella there's a lot of things to be figured out it's not as simple as saying

oh yeah I do support trans people do I support a man's right to identify as a woman and they completely clobber women and dominate traditionally women's sport I mean it's like a straw man it's not as how is it a strong man right right how is it a strong man it's a fucking thing that's happening

there are female there with non-binary no non-binary I made clear I think is bunk. I've made clear that I think non-binary is not based in anything

and I could be wrong and I'm willing to risk being wrong and I'm not saying that non-bi- I'm saying that transgender is legit. That doesn't mean that you can go into a boxing ring and club of woman to death with your big myths. It's just not

the fucking way it is. Non-binary I think if you want a designation, if you don't identify as a gender, that's fine. But that we both know that the non-binary thing's about a lot more than that. It's about the idea that these people have been persecuted, that they've been persecuted because there's a patriarchy, which is the great Kermed Metzger said,

is now the Illuminati for girls. It's a patriarchy that's been holding you down and forcing you into this gender role that has ruined your entire life. And there's hundreds of... Here's why I take issue with all this. You could be a woman in the day and a man at night. Much to say.

I don't think you're reading the literature. I don't think you're talking to these people. What are you doing that one? What is this? I want to tell you about the guidelines? No. No, no, thank you. What are the rules?

What are the rules? You've got to be, if you want, now surgery is not required anymore. You want to male to male? Woo! Yeah. But if you're going to be male, you have demonstrated at testosterone levels, low certain cartilage. point for at least one year

before you're first It's not even about that though It's about the size of your fucking muscles Your hands your whole thing Still Can we stop acting Like we like made everything Legit 200 years ago

And we stopped like We stopped imperialism SJW Ray He's gonna SJW your day People think it's SJW It's more like the idea Like we're gonna talk shit about Iran Hey Iran

Iran shot down a drone and they want to refine your own uranium. We overthrew these people's government like 50 years ago. I'm just saying like, why are all these non-binary people in the Dungeons of Dragons? Why are they nerds?

Why do they'll have fucking purple hair? Yeah, a lot of them do. Not all of them, but a lot of them do. Why is it, why does it feel, I'm totally with it as a cool movement of shit. What I'm not with is people institutionalizing into law, all these now discrimination things.

There's going to be all kinds of lawsuits. Listen, do whatever the fuck you want. Let's not pretend that there's not, some underlying psychological and by the way now there's a commercial opportunity for it because it can get you on the if you're an actor and you come out as non-binary can get you on the cover of a magazine well look same thing as trans same thing or you know whatever like there's always the opportunist and the sociopaths in Hollywood but you do realize that it does go a little far you've said it's far with the athletes it's far with the kids and the

drugs and it's far when people say they want to throw out all of science I think there's like and who no one really knows yet there is no concrete reason why trans is a phenomenon in the sense of like no one can you can't boil it down to genes or like any kind of particular neurology so it's still like we're still we're still really understood but you you meet these people and you don't doubt for a second like okay you you you don't you're not you don't you're not like every part of you like Chelsea Manning wouldn't go through what they go through without you know I am not I am I am pro trans pro all of that I know you are my point is like we just don't but we don't understand it yet And I'm saying it's like, yeah, I'm sure there's going to be kids. I'm not saying that we should give them hormones. But look, I'm sure there will be kids. Transition when you want to, when you're ready. But let's not pretend.

It's a complicated thing. I'm not saying we should give it to them. But let's not pretend like that there are going to be some kids at least who were, for lack of a better term, right about it. They weren't confused. And they spent 10 extra years trapped in this scenario that hurts, like emotionally. and psychologically for them And it's just So like my point is we need to

But yeah Scientific study needs to be done See like what we gender them So then why why Well let's avoid the whole thing Let's not gender them at birth And let's all give them gender neutral names Well look I'm just saying

Hey buddy buddy We'd just solve your problem We don't gender them at birth Okay We give them neutral names You're for that So everyone's Arlo And no one is a gender

You need No that's what's being suggested You are getting in the boat No And then diving off the fucking boat Ray When they get I'm not saying we should do it. Well, first of all, that's what you have to do.

I love that you think these people would... Freedom is a slippery slope. You're such a fat slob. These people hate you. They will always hate you. I am trying to be a good person here. I'm trying to be understanding. I'm trying to be a good person too.

And I'm saying that there's a movement now to not gender kids at birth, to everybody has a gender neutral name. And pretending that men and women are... that there's a large group of men and a large group of women that will fall in traditional gender roles, which, by the way, has fucking, it's completely 100% the way it'll happen. Biologically, women and men have differences that are innate

that are not simply... It's not all constructive, but there's a lot of constructs that goes along with it. And I'm saying this. I think most people are comfortable with their gender. And, like, I don't think we should go as far as to be like, well, we're going to make sure that non-binary people feel just as comfortable society as everyone else

and we have to like nerve everything for that it's like yeah look but like to the extent that we can be like not quite like have to like dehumanize them when they voice

that they don't really have a gender yeah fair enough all right how long have we done how long have we done here we're 55 okay well let's transition into a closing thing that will be nice

I agree with you I understand it was a good argument put up a good fight I get it I'm with you my concern simply is that

it's a little bit of an overreach I think there's a potential there for that I think it's happening on some levels it seems to have a lot to do with the current political climate and the identity driven discourse and the idea that people

want to participate in that from a position of not privilege and how will a white person do that in many cases it's to say that they do not identify because I'm a symbol man. So maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm completely wrong. And this is all genuine. But

knowing people, knowing myself, knowing all kinds of people, I say, there's probably a disproportionate amount of people that are seeing a benefit in being a victim and trying to invent a class of victims. And that's what I think. think might be happening. I could be wrong. Look, I think there's definitely, I'm sure

it's happening with some cases, I'm sure it's potential for that. Look, I was I was trying to say before, anytime you give people even in legitimate cases the potential excuse of like, hey, you were oppressed and now some people will use as a crutch. Nothing

nothing is worse than doing comedy though. You want to talk about real mental illness and real victims. It's comedy. That's true. Clowns. I mean, look, the whole science thing is what gets me. There's a great play called The Ferryman, and they do this fucking ancient Greek mythology. And it is, they say, they wander, it's just some quote that's like, they wander the earth, they can't get into heaven or hell.

They're awaiting the ferryman, lost souls. Right. And that's who these comedians are. I agree. It's a dark thing. I mean, I've been making my electronic music lately. I showed you some of my tracks You're now DJ I'm proud of you

I'm trying to be a DJ But I'm proud of you Would it be DJ Ray DJ comp DJ Fat Cat DJ Fat Cat DJ Fat Cat I don't know

That's what just occurred to me Would you ever go back To Long Island wedding DJing instead of photography Well I mean What do you think long term You and Lucy Is it New York

Or you go out west What do you do I think I live in like New Mexico I could see what being happy as fucking like a New Mexico I would mind up state or like a Montana

Montana is too expensive now for me they're all the rich are buying because they got their own water aquifers when it goes down your own aquifers

aquifer water aquifer like the whole reservoir basically I think yeah I think that's why they're all going out there

yeah for when it gets cute yeah but you think I mean you heard my music do you think

it's going mainstream or you think it's too esoteric because of the way you look you will never be a DJ that's a reality

I'm not going to be a DJ Here's the way it is right Right, I can explain this to you Because this is something that's dawned on me recently Which is why I don't That's why I'll express any opinion I want I don't give a shit I used to be like, no, me me like is there

I don't care anymore People Will not get behind you If you are not hot And young So if you have a time machine And a plastic surgeon Because it's all a package now

It's not just your music It's a package What do you look like on Instagram What's your whole thing? I'm thinking about getting a pig mask Well marshmallow Put that thing on his head right You know that DJ marshmallow

He puts that marshmallow on his head Oh yeah Like that punk does it too With the helmet You should put a marshmallow On your whole body Yeah Coolet

No but that's what it is You have to have an image It's all social media It's all image It has nothing to do with any Your skill level doesn't matter. Right. Kill yourself.

It doesn't matter. It's really immaterial. Billy Elish going, blah, blah, none of it matters. It's do you, can you catch fire on social media?

Little Nazaxe, that new song to get down and the cabo boogie and a do-da. And that 16-year-old kid went viral dancing to it. I'm not familiar with this. Harvey, whatever. And like, at the end them,

I'm like, What's that? No, I'm kidding. I didn't. But this is what it is now. And now I do a whole thing on my podcast about this master class like Steve Martin and Trude Appetachian. Oh, I bought one.

Aaron Sorkin. It's the final insult, by the way. And of course you would. I enjoy him. I'm a fan. It's the final insult where people you respect now come to rip you off in your home. That's the final insult. People that you have loved and respected,

they give them money to come rape you in your own home. it's one of the biggest episodes as a show I've done talking about this and you get all this information to do one with, I don't know and I love by the way that it's like who's David Lynch

going to give all his info to is he going to give it to his protege or a guy that's earned it a guy that Lynch is handsome like no anyone that pays $15 a month

will get all of David Lynch's secret I paid $100 for the whole so what's hilarious is that you have Steve Martin talking about like your skill and I remember

sitting on a flight next to the guy who does all the A&R, not the A&R, or the social media for a public records. They have our Grande, Jake, Drake, all these big people. He goes, TikTok's now where Little Nazax had the number one song on TikTok. He goes, we went to the guy who had the second biggest song. He goes, just a guy with a goatee.

He was just goofing around. And he goes, we gave him $700,000 because we said, it was worth it. If Little Nazek's number one, that guy may be number two, we're going to sign up for a year and see what he does. Okay? Just a guy with a goatee. That's how he explained it to me. And then he pulled them up. Just a guy with a goate's a guy with a goat.

a funny mustache and just bopping around and you have master class with Steve Martin telling you that every syllable of every word's got to be perfect you got to hone your craft you got to hone your craft and then go out to the discerning public who are going to really make a good choice right and then you look and you go we're pet and I said to him like is a little as X song I was like I didn't know if it was a joke when it came out or not because it doesn't matter. As the great Chris Hedges said, Chris Hedges was quoting someone else. As the great Chris Hedges said,

Chris Hedges said, we're living in a time now, whatever Trump says, it's like, did the snake eat the mouse or did the mouse eat the snake? And doesn't even matter anymore. It's all bullshit. None of it matters. Is it a joke? Is it ironic? No one cares. It is

what it is. And the idea, the era of artisans, and I'm a craftman, I'm a tradesman. You're dead. You're dead in the water. It is the time of hucksters, charlatans, and thieves. And if you can't get on that frequency, then you might as well

get out. It's wonderful. Tim J. Dillon on Instagram, Twitter. Do you have any dates coming up? You want to plug? July. When does this come out? Probably tomorrow morning.

This week, and you can see me at the St. Louis Funnybone, the 27th to the 29th of June, July 5th through the 7th, I'm at Wise Guys in Salt Lake City, July 19th, the 20th, I'm at hilarities in Cleveland, August 1st through the 3rd. I'm an American Comedy Co in San Diego, Tim Dylancomedy.com for all other dates. Tim Dillon's going to hell is the podcast. I do some funny videos on Instagram, Tim J. Dillan, D-I-L-O-N. You know.

That's great. No, definitely go see him. And if you know who, that mouse snake quote is kind of wrong, but I don't think it's that wrong. I think it's pretty accurate. But just tell me who said it. Ricky Dickey Tavvy. No, he did it.

I got to email Hedges. I'm emailing Hedges back and forth. Try to get him on the show. I want to give a shout out to all my Patreon followers. Diane Cage, Britt Poundown, Michael Ricardo, Richard Hofstetter,

Gary Barbera, Ryan LaRoke, Keith Veronese, Eric Frankel, and Night Shift Lifestyle. Some people have asked to not have their names featured. They don't want to donate, but they don't want to be associated with the show.

I totally get it. don't have to be, you know, you just tell me, you give me money, and I won't say your name, it's fine. Also, Julian Assange, she hasn't donated a while. I haven't kept up with his case. Yeah, I left him hanging out to dry. He donated, like, one month. You know, I think he got, like, five bucks to him, and he's, like, hit me up, asking if I can fucking get fans to support him, like, co-signers, go fund me. You know what's funny? After that sushi, which is gross, I actually feel good, though. Yeah. Like, I feel okay. No, if we'd gone to, like, you know, one of our spots and got, like, you know, with chicken perm pizzas or whatever,

So good. They're good. There's something good. When you're from Long Island, there's something good. The smell of a pizzeria is your childhood. Right. That people don't understand that. I like you that dusty crust.

When it's dusty on the bottom? What is that? Is that somebody to eat a dust? It's like flour or something. But there's something about the smell of pizzeria, the garlic, the sauce, baking, and the smell of bacon when you wake up from the deli, the bacon, egg, and cheese. Yeah. Wafting bacon.

The smell of a pizzeria. These are good in the smell of corruption. Right. And eroding. Where would happen to the Manganos? Is he in jail? I don't think so. I'll do a follow-up next week.

Yeah, follow-up. I'm curious myself. Thank you. When you're coming to L.A., let me know we'll do it in L.A. Awesome. So thanks for listening. Go listen to our love it's disgusting. That'll be back next week.

Enjoy. Have a great week. Do you guys like fuck on the show and stuff? We're waiting until we do our page. like second episode and then you'll do that here can watch us fuck really i look if lucy is okay watching me fuck well like care if he's more yeah it's fine yeah the patreon people watching you fuck and then afterwards you got to call they write their names of cum i love that much come i wish everyone was younger man all right have a great week goodbye fun

Thank you.