Kump - 27 - Epstein and the House of Windsor

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

Ray discusses the death of Jeffrey Epstein, speculates on the possible role of Prince Harry, and contemplates on how long it will take for everyone to forget about all of it. 

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The conjuring, last rites. Only in theater, September 5th, Bridget R. Hello, welcome to Kump. Now you've all heard the news, I suspect. Look, you can get caught and you can threaten to drop a dime on ex-presidents, current presidents, CEOs, creators of children's television, cartoons, or adults' cartoons, anything you want. You can drop a dime on anything except for what?

Do you know? You see what I'm going with? The House of Windsor will not abide these leaks. I've been trying to, you know, speak this truth for a while now. they've got a guy working for them it's part of the family ruthless I mean you think

Oliver North E. Howard Hunt G. Gordon Liddy Do you think these were uh oh no drop soda in the closet I think it's fine it's fine

you think these guys are assassins no no you remember a little boy red-haired little boy the product of not incest what's the opposite of incest

of adultery of infidelity of a mercenary killer to America's princess talking about Prince Harry who single-handedly flew helicopter missions into Afghanistan

killing God knows how many people I don't know I believe I've heard from people I speculate myself that he targeted civilians children maybe

I have no proof for this but I speculate I just might guess that he killed a lot of civilians in the war and who else you're going to send some fucking hitman some fucking wet work guy

to kill someone in Manhattan jail It's too He gets caught You need someone who's loyal He needs someone who's like a rat That's Harry Harry

Made it look at a suicide He was in and out He signed some autographs probably I don't know Look Why do you let the documents come out on Friday I don't know In reality

The documents came out Friday Prince Harry was involved We're being facetious here But Prince Harry Was definitely in on the meetings where they planned this probably where they said, hey, this guy's got to pay off that guy.

Yeah, I'm just saying. Epstein, I mean, it seems odd that they waited until the documents were released, but I guess that was a point where it was like, maybe they thought that it was going to go the other way. But they tried to kill them two weeks ago.

It's all very fishy. You want to keep one foot out of it. Maybe he did kill himself, but like, it doesn't, look, you watch Oz Bowl. get shot by Ruby with those pictures Was there a video of it?

You know, the movie Oliver Stone movie A fucking JFK Now I think it's video of it But it was live on television Yeah People watch that shit live on television Oswald getting killed by JFK By Jack Ruby

And You know Just accept it There's no fix in on this It's fine I mean, so I'm not saying you should, you know, think that nothing happened. I'm just saying there's always a possibility that, you know, the guy just didn't want to live if he couldn't fuck kids. I mean, these guys love fucking kids.

They would rather die than never fuck kids again. That's a fact. I don't know what it is about it. I think kids are disgusting. I wouldn't know what to do with them. I mean, I'm not going to let you fuck them. I'm going to stand up for him. But, you know, it's just, I'm not going to be like, well, I don't want them.

No. I'm keep my eyes open on you fucking creeps, but I'm just saying I don't get it, but whatever. But they love fucking kids, and if you tell them they can't, look, it's possible they would kill themselves. You have to keep, you know, a rational tether to reality here

in the sense of like, sure. As soon as you admit that, you know, where you were claiming, like, it's not a pot, then look, this is the three-star getting into the, you know. but no I mean come on you have to also at the same time assume that he killed them this is just the way you have to look at the world I mean they got to prove that they didn't kill them they got to show you videotape evidence they got to show you him

putting around in his jail cell with some fucking smock what they didn't even tell us what he used to hang himself oh because he wasn't in that's the thing he wasn't he was no older in suicide watch which is I think that's normal I think they put you on suicide watch and then like 24 hours later it's like he's fine that's not how it works

he's going to shrinks you have to fucking get like evaluated and like you know you're a suicide watch apparently some guards like watching you taking notes and uh you know now he's touching his dick uh 2 15 p.m

now he's uh I think every minute every five minutes. He had like 2.15 B.m. I think he's smelling his hand after he touched his dick. 2.20. I think he's using his pinky to touch his asshole.

Like, I mean, I don't know what kind of notes you could be doing. It must get teat. That's the thing. It's tedious. Excuse me. I went away into a more wooded area this weekend.

I think it activated allergies or something in dander. So we're drinking fluids. to kind of flush it out. I got some clarity. It doesn't matter. I'm not coming into a commercial clarity. I'm just saying.

So the point is you have to fucking accept that, you know, this guy killed, like, they killed him probably. I mean, like, you don't move someone that has suicide watch for the hell of it. And look, even Bob Barr is going, I don't know, like, that's like, this, you know he's in on it. You know he on some, William Barr. I'm sorry, I'm Bob Barr. Bob Barr is a great libertarian candidate they voted for under Bob Barr's watch

just never would have happened but here we are. You know, look, is everyone in on it? I don't fucking know. But the point is William Barr giving crocodile tears going, I don't know how this happened.

Like, if they wanted to make sure that nothing happened to Epstein, they wouldn't make sure nothing happened to Epstein. I mean, if it would have to happen? How hard is it to put a guy in the hole? How are you going to kill yourself in a hole? You got to beat yourself in a hole?

You got to beat yourself? yourself to death with your shit pail the pail you shit into I mean you're gonna bludgeon yourself maybe you could they probably get one of those plastic buckets that you can't even use that's the thing you picture a metal bucket with a handle it's probably a plastic like a flexible plastic you can never bludgeon yourself to death with all you all you all you done accomplishing is getting pissing shit all over your face um no it's like and then the way you're gonna bash your head into the wall I mean it you know possibly. So maybe you make padded

a padded room where you can't bash your head in. They could have kept this guy alive. No one wanted them alive. No one wanted. I mean, there's a lot of people in this country fucking, I mean, here's the thing. Document's coming out, right? Is it worse that

like famous people or fucking kids? It is. We're politicians. I mean, here's the thing. A lot of people in this country are Catholics. And I feel like we lose sight. I mean, on one level of, I feel like I'm just beating it horse, but that's part of the thing. There's a horse, a dead horse, some dead horses

should be beaten, and one is the fact that Catholic Church exists just to allow priests to fuck kids. Like, I can't imagine any other, you know, reason why this institution is still a thing. And they have a country in the, like, you need a passport. I was talking to someone who's

going to Italy, they're going to Rome soon, and they mentioned that, like, you know, oh yeah, you need a passport to go to the Vatican. I'm like, a passport. And I remember, oh yeah, because it's country. The Vatican is the entire country devoted to fucking kids in the mouth

in the ass and we just we don't even just accept it. When the Pope comes we give him a fucking state visit. It's a fucking to-do. It's like there's parades and people flock to him. The head kid's fucker

gets like a fucking people flock around him and go, oh my god, this is a Padre. Fuck my kid in the mouth. fuck my kid in them out in the ass do it please adre and they and he doesn't because you know they have to wait till night time uh it's like a vampire rule but the point is um there seems to be an excitement in the air uh around this or maybe not maybe i'm misreading because there's two things going on there's people just kind of yeah everything's fake and they're laughing and like

knowing that nothing's going to happen or some people think i get the impression that like you know They think because so many people are watching now, which it does see, look, of all the time, something's happened. Like, on 9-11, people weren't, like, en masse to this extent talking about how, like, this is fake. It's a fake fucking attack that, you know, Dick Cheney fucking finance this. It happened a few days later, but even though it was, but it does seem like the majority, like the majority of people being vocal about it

They're like, this is fucking fishy. So you would think that, you know, something might happen. That, you know, oh, we're going to get these. And look, the document got released Friday, right? This court document with all these people's names. Only one name is leaked so far as far as I know. Which is strange because it's Mac groaning. And I looked into it.

And I'm like, look, and I'm saying, a lot of you kids are Simpsons kids. A lot of you Simpsons kids out there, you fucking see, I like the Simpsons growing up. But I can't quote every line. I'm up one of these Simpsons I know every fucking joke I watch it I like it I enjoy it I watch it now I'm like oh yeah I remember these like I feel like I don't

remember the Simpsons more than I do I actually do watch it I'm like oh yeah I watched this as a kid I forgot I mean I didn't like obsess over it like you maniacs but you know I like it so you know I'm fine but it must hurt some of you Simpson's kids whose entire sense of humor was built around this show you know you're

fucking creator is tied up in child fuck prostitution situations must really fucking stink huh well here's the thing about that you look at it like you know hmm well what's going back growing

he got massage he got a foot massage of a 16 year old at some point which atrocious of course I might say it's not atrocious but I do find it out because you know that there's much more powerful people much more rich people who did much

worse things, I'm sure. They got foot massage from a 16 year old. I just can't stop picture in my head them, like, you know, they're shoving Mac groaning overboard. They're just fucking, they like this fuck. What did this fuck do?

He's a cartoonist. Send him to the wolves. This fucking you know these guys who like own oil conglomerates who were just fucking, you know, shoving four kids into a furnace while they fuck him but Matt Groening's

name let's just find his name I have to go through the documents it's a long document 1500 pages it's gonna be hard to go through I wonder who we're gonna find I mean we already have big names the big names already have like oh I mean a prime minister

I don't know where the House of Windsor really go after this because of a prime was there also with someone a king it might have been king also look Harry is going to you know redact it personally with his own blood he's going to

like just he's going to take care of this but I don't know there's a sense that we're going to do something about it that we're going to fucking care meanwhile it's like yeah a lot of people stop being Catholic but I mean the Pope

Nevada like the Vatican's still there why hasn't the Vatican been ripped apart and why isn't Interpol just like tearing it down this idea that it was a religion so was Scientology and we know they're fucking corrupt allegedly

do I even say that is they did you know where is the Muscavage woman I don't know point is the idea of Scientology is going to go up to me they're actually like they're probably doing some good

if sedentology actually targeted me what is this i found a piece of metal in anyway um yeah so I don't know we go off to just lane this just lame woman who's friends of Hillary Clinton

I mean people I see people on Twitter are getting mad that they're equivocating uh with Trump and Clinton or like the way is why are the Clintons only getting you know tainted with conspiracy brush

but the Clinton's killed Epstein but you know Trump was involved too I mean A sure yeah I mean First of all they are broken They're both getting accused People just love

They're both like both things You know The Clinton body count And Trump body count Hashtags are both trending And yet these fucking Liberal scumbags And there's only scum

They're not scumas because they're liberal They're liberal just liberal scumbags You know Oh I I can't You know, I just get disgusted. You know, every time I see someone accused the Clintons of doing it.

But not, to be fair, they're not coming from a place of, like, the Clintons wouldn't ever do this. It's more like this idea. It became fetishized at some point amongst liberals to, like, condemn conspiracy. Like, a fetish, fascistic way. Is that the word fascistic? I think so. A fiscistic disgust of conspiracy.

I think it kind of maybe went down with the whole Trump and the Russian thing because now they're pushing this and I don't know because it gets messy I guess messy when you choose to cherry picking your history when you're used to cherry picking

you know who's a real source who isn't a real source and you know what you're allowed to listen to and then all of a sudden your fucking political narrative gets suited by you know oh and I'm not saying it didn't happen but you know all of a sudden you want whatever is the counter-histor

is, you know, mainstream fucking source to be. My point is grow a dick or a pussy. It ain't, it ain't, it's a sexist. There's any sexist podcast. Grow a pussy or grow a dick. But get, you know, get a genital. Is that, oh, am I othering people who don't have genitals?

Good. I don't care. I mean, at a certain point, you got to draw the line. I mean, I'm sorry if you lost your genitals and you never had them, but like, what are you going to do? You want to borrow my cock sometime? You can. You figure out how. you figure out the mechanism you get a doctor involved

I'm willing to help I'm a good person but you know short of that I don't know what you want I can't you know I can't just fucking I'm not going to cut it off myself

I'm not going to cut my cock off I'm just handing it to you and go bring it back when you're done that just seems I need a doctor involved with this anyway

but yeah you know a lot of people I mean even this even this Epstein thing would this have been does anyone actually care about the kids getting I wonder

I feel like it's a political they want to bring people down politically they want to bring down the Clintons they want to bring down Trump they want to bring down you know heads of state and CEOs

I wonder how much they care about the victims I wonder how much of it is like this I mean I'm sure look a lot I'm not saying no one does. I mean, the reporters that broke it initially, that we broke it, whatever.

But I'm saying, there's a fervor going on, and the people, you know, I don't remember a couple of years ago just many people caring. And you could argue that it got to the zeitgeist. Sure. But I think people are frothing. People are frothing. They're going to get Trump. They're going to get Bill. They're going to get Hillary. That, you know, this Clinton...

I mean, if you listen to some, people. The Clintons have murdered hundreds of people, which I think is a little insane. But, you know, who am I the judge, I guess? But, I mean, the idea that, like, the Clintons are, like, just murdering people left and right. Yeah, I'm sure the white water, I mean, look, it definitely looks fishy. The only

reason I don't go, sure, white water, it's just, you know, there was also, look, there's definitely a right, when Hillary talked about a right-wing conspiracy in the media, people balked at her, because the media is traditionally very liberal and sure it is but i mean there was a definitely was a grover norquist behind that one i think it was grover norquist but either way like you know this whole

burgeoning limbaugh nexus of fox news and these kind of guys um i think there was definitely you know targeted thing against the clinton at one point in the mid-90s when she was talking about uh i don't think she would refer to the new york times for instance even though the new york times it's not exactly the most liberal paper in the world. I mean, they're liberal on the surface, but, you know, they also push for the Iraq war and ignore genocides. I guess that's not really...

That's more just... That's just an American thing, I guess. Ignoring genocide is an American tradition. It's not liberal or conservative, so, you know, we shouldn't taint it with politics. It's just a patriotic thing. Ignoring genocide. Excuse me.

But, uh... yeah I mean the fervor about this is just it seems definitely seems politically charged but who am I the judge um how do they get it done how do they get it done I mean

is are they going to bring a camera I mean this is the kind of thing if they actually gave a shit their whole thing is just it's a fine line it's all based on mine because you know you as you get into conspiracy type of stuff. And you try to keep

a rational head about it. You're watching these stuff over the years and you go, all right. Like, so I get that, like, you know, this cabal of people did this. They get it. But, like, why would this happen then? Like, there's a lot of times

we leave out the stuff where, like, you know, the relevant details of, like, well, if they're going to do that, why would they allow this? And sometimes it does kind of make you go, maybe they didn't do like whatever X, Y, and Z. But a lot of times,

I've come to realize that, they don't care about the appearance of things. Like, no one cares if you think Bill Clinton fuck kids. They don't care. They care if... Like, you would think, like, oh, it's tainted his presidency. They really only care of...

Because they know history has a long... They have a long view of history. And they know you're going to ignore... It's kind of like basketball. A loudest digress. Because, I mean, I don't know how many of you guys are basketball fans. I'm an intermittent watcher. I watch a lot of the talking heads, and I'll watch the playoffs.

But, you know, a few years ago, Kevin Durant left his team, the Oklahoma City Thunder. He's generally being considered one of the best players in the world, coming up on, nipping on the heels of LeBron James. And, you know, just almost seven foot tall. handles like a point guard usually when you're that tall you don't move the ball as well dribbling him and then handling the ball

can shoot from anywhere in the field some of these the lesser shooters have certain spots they have to get to their spot and they can shoot he just shoots from anywhere basically can defend whatever point is great player one of the best

he leaves his team people have been saying you got to leave his team team, you know, because Russell Westbrook is on there. I mean, they've been to the finals a few years ago with LeBron. And, like, look, LeBron, that was the year LeBron finally won his first title. I believe it was the first? Yeah.

And he fucking, you know, came into his own. And, uh, you know, I'm just saying, like, they trounced them. But there was, they had Russell Westbrook, who's, you know, MVP, All-Star, James Harding, and they lost. They broke the team up. So he just had Westbrook at him.

And he got to lose. Point is he didn't, no one would have cared if he left, but he left to go to the Golden, you know, Golden State Warriors. And, uh, some people knock them for it. I knock them forward. I think it's disgusting move because the Golden State Warriors were 71 win out of 80 games team. They broke, they had a historic season. They'd lost the finals to LeBron that year, but they'd won the year before. And look, the reality is, they were already a championship team.

You go there. It's a putts move. It's a move that, you know, no one's going to respect. But there's definitely a big counter argument that goes, yeah, but, you know, we talk about, you know, Bill Russell, we don't question why he has his ring.

Bill Russell's got from the 70s or 60s and 70s has 11 rings. And no one's questioning who was on his team. You know, because Wilts was the better player, Will Chamberlain. The point is, we're getting admired in this. The point is, it's generally concede did that in 30 years

people know a lot less of the details and they only see as you have rings and the same thing with this shit you know in 50 years there'll be accusations of you know what happened during the presidency

or what happened after what came out who was he connected to but you know if you weren't impeached if you weren't indicted if you weren't like you know if no one held you dead to rights and said you're a pedophile and you had to admit it it's almost like it didn't happen

it doesn't matter like they don't care there's a lot of stories there's a lot of myths there's a lot of you know fatty arbuckle I mean I think he actually did get tainted by I think that's the one thing people remember is fatty rbuckle fucking a girl of death with a coke bottle

and I might even sure if that happened I think that was actually a fake thing that was made up by you know herster one of the papers but the point is they don't care so much about the appearance or even like because you and I go well like I can't leave the house and people thinking I'm a pedophile and they know it and it's like you know like they're you're looking at me they don't care I mean

they see their sociopathic people I mean they do a lot of things that uh you know about they know you know about that are you know not as bad as that but they're pretty goddamn bad they don't give a shit that you know it um they're poison people they're fucking I mean look at Hillary Clinton she's like you were talking with Gaddafi and like we came

we saw he died she's talking about a guy who was fucked to death with like pipes and sticks and beating the death you know and fucked in the ass we're like

well they have bayonets and like pipes and shit and bricks and they were they were just raping them and she's just joking and laughing about it or just like

you know I mean what happened would have been a lot in raid the point is you know mania uh

bill i mean look you look at bill he's launching fucking airstrikes um the night of what was it was something to do with the the Lewinsky thing i remember very clearly um it was before you in between the Gulf War

the second Gulf War um or the Iraq War I guess we call it um Why do we call one the Gulf War and the other one the Iraq War? Oh, we weren't really, yeah, I got it. If you were bombing, you know, Kuwait, to get them out of Kuwait, that makes sense. Either way, the night of some of, was it the impeachment vote or something before that, you know, Operation Desert Fox, I think they called it?

Or they fucking made some, you know, supposedly Saddam had, like, you know, broken some treaty thing. She'd been there for 10 years. we'd been fucking starving those people with sanctions since, you know, 91 or 90. Point is, you know, to cover his ass a little bit politically,

he fucking launches an air strike. So, you know, these aren't exactly nice guys or, you know, people who have any qualms. Like, this is right in the CNN. That's not some fucking, like, thing you had to, like, look into. The whole point was to distract you.

And it was, like, pretty obvious. That's my point. like it's obvious that he's doing it to distract people like if you have any foresight if you're any like you know if you're looking at all at the structure of what's happening like they know you know the point is though it's like they don't give a shit as long as you can't prove it the whole court of law idea is the whole the court of public opinion means very little to them and that's that's that's what we're coming to realize I mean the more

years we get on 9-11 I think the more people I mean I think a lot of people just don't bother to look it's the kind of thing with 9-11 where like they got

it's kind of like the whole pop of the mechanics article it gave people that kind of pushpin in their brain to go yeah well they debunked it they debunked those conspiracies it's fine

very few people actually read it but you know I guess in your heads I can relate I can remember you know thinking kind of this way I was like well I mean popular mechanics may not be like the X I remember it being weird to me

that they were doing it like why is popular mechanics doing it it seems like there should be like a different level of magazine I mean I was like it was popular mechanics that advanced that they talk about like advanced like you know architecture like failings

and like steel I thought there was more like Like, I was just assuming it was like, you know, look at this, uh, look at this, like, wheel that we made with a car, I don't know. I don't know what I assume they did. Like, I thought it was like car stuff or like gadgets, but not like fucking, well, here's the melting point if you, to take into account the fucking jet fuel. Like, this is advanced metallurgy or whatever the fucking, I guess, you know, are they experts? Okay, sure. I mean, the pusses who, like, work in the magazine or the same,

or even if you have an engineering degree, you're the same kind of engineer that work in, like, you know, for Grumman or for, like, you know, general dynamics, testing out, like, you know, jet fuel propulsion. No, I imagine you're not, but I mean, that's, but I don't think a lot of people that suddenly question, well, this guy's a engineer, and it's that pushpin. It's that thing that goes in your head, and you go, all right, well,

I guess you're, uh, you guys fixed it for us. You guys solved it. but that being said the more people you talk to directly and you just remember when I first talked about with Lucy like last year two years ago she wasn't really a truth or anything and uh

I started talking about you know September 11th to New Pearl Harbor and I just mentioned you know vigilant guardian a war game that happened on September 11th you know you guys all know they fly planes as a you know Empire State building and like using the entire Northeast of command and she immediately went

Oh, they totally faked it. And she, I thought she was joking, but she was... No, that's... The information out there, it really is pretty... Like, it's pretty damning. It's pretty...

Even if you don't want to say, like... You know, there's levels to, like, what people believe, right? But, like, the point of, like, oh, something fishy happened. It's pretty... That was there.

I mean, it's all about getting people to not give a shit. That's the whole game. It's, you know, what level are you play? so it's like you know will they

will they just get this just lane woman who's friends of Hillary Clinton was she she'd one yeah she's Hillary Clinton's like you know

bestie and uh not Hillary Clinton I'm sorry Chelsea Clinton's bestie and you know she was the co the co-pimp

or whatever how much yeah I got to look more into someone you know that's a problem someone's going to write a book

I was going to say I got read a book about this but who's writing a book but uh because I know like the whole idea is that just slain was a kind of you know his social like friend who was

introduced him what she Maxwell's daughter the guy Maxwell who fuck I forget exactly what his empire was but you know when he's rich he had some kind of I think it's a media thing or whatever we know who he is point is like are they gonna let her burn and then poor mac groaning not poor macroaring he still he still did something but I mean there's something about the guy doing, you know, relatively minor things, that minor, there you go, compared to, like, you know, what was the guy from fucking, uh, the guy, the owner of Whole Foods doing? I mean, I have no idea.

I mean, technically, I'm Jeff Bezos, but I mean, who is the founder of Whole Foods? Was he involved in this? I don't, I have, I officially don't know. I have no reason to think he is. Let's make that clear. That being said, you know, those are the, but that's the kind of thing. It's like, you know, it's not about Are we going to

How deep down the rabbit hole are we going to go? Are we going to demand? I mean, a lot of it is also like, you know, Because what it feels like, oh, we're tweeting. We're tweeting about this. Like, there's some crazy thing. And we're going to, like, you know, we're going to keep vigilant about it.

But the reality is, like, there's not much you can do. I mean, we're going to be like the common pizza guy and fucking, no. I mean, that's the thing. There is no move. they've built it in a way well you know if you want to like get physical with it you literally are a crazy person

like that really is a crazy move it's not even like oh well you know what you're going to throw your life away it wouldn't accomplish it if anything it would make the opposition better like look at even if you thought nothing happened to come with pizza

I mean that seems to be pretty clear right I mean I always start with kind of a weird a weird thing to even fixate on with all the stuff that we do know but whatever but the point is did that help or hurt

I mean yeah I guess if he found kids in a cage I mean that's the thing the general people general population no one that I knew who talked to thought there was actually kids in cages and a bottom of kind of pizza it's a similar thing I was talking

you know last episode about you know the idea of guns and should we restrict guns and like, you know, militias and like, yeah, I'm four militias in theory, but who's going to be in your militia? In the same way, who's going to be the one who's

actually ever going to, like, you know, fight against these forces of pedophilia like physically? You know, no, the ones you don't want doing it, the maniacs. So the point is, there is no, I mean, the only thing is to be vigilant and to be, I mean, you look at that movie spotlight, and you have that lawyer that Stanley Cucci

played, and it's just fucking, it's the hard work, the fucking just sitting with the kids and the fucking taking their depositions and they're fucking, it's it's a miserable. I mean, it's got to be on the one level of rewarding, but you're just hearing about kids getting fucking raped every day

your life. And you're fucking doing the work. And that's what has to happen. These journalists who are fucking, you know, face first hearing the most awful shit and it ruins people. We've talked to them when Tim Dillan's going to hell podcast. We met you know, Nick Bryant. You know,

you get a good guy and a great guy and noble work and you can be you can see the total it must take on you it's just you know to constantly be you know just fucking mired in this it's just uh it's not the

it's not the most it's not it's not going to work at google right it's not having you have a meditation room and a fucking and just endless snacks and like you go out for your fucking sushi lunches no it's a life of just kind of you know

and even this this is like this is like this might will we finally achieved it like maybe I mean look you watch

spotlight and uh you watch this arc and you feel like oh well it's gonna they won in the end right spotlight's the movie if you haven't seen it

about the Boston Globe back in the like 99 in the early 90s early 2000s breaking making the first big break in the whole I mean it's the Boston

version of the sex abuse cases but I think it was first, you know, massive, big one to get national attention. And, you know, look, they, they accomplished a lot. They pushed out this cardinal, and, you know, it's not, it ain't nothing. They got a lot of priests, but look how much more, I mean, how little it curbed of child's abuse in the Catholic Church. I mean, look how much it kept going.

Look how much, you mean, these things in Pennsylvania or whatever, these, these, these attorney general Pennsylvania came out. These massive cases were just, like, well, that's that. Thousands of priests. It's just, I mean, and no one's really gone to the... No one's ever said why we still have this church?

Why is the Vatican still like a country? Nothing. I mean, that's just... It's haunting to see how in plain sight they're still doing it. I mean, because these people are... If you told me I could never fuck again, like, you know, it was illegal to fuck women or whatever you can't fuck women. It's like...

I like fucking, but, you know, I wouldn't be my everything, you know what I mean? I wouldn't get jobs to fuck women. Maybe the L-Betob's just not the high. I don't know. I can't, it seems to go where, like, it's not just a sex, it's a, it's a mania these people have. It's something like, it's a mania, a manic compulsion.

That's not just like, I think, because everything's like Dambl, when they try to make it seem like, well, this is normal. This is just our preference. And it's like, you know, these people should be executed, but whatever. But, like, point is, like, I can't even, like, they're just like rats who are just like you can't keep them out so you just have to like you know

but whatever point is I don't know I wouldn't get too much hope going but then again you know this is kind of a big deal it's kind of a big it'll be telling to see I mean they've put Mac groaning out

into the wilderness we'll see if people take the bait or if they go all right well yeah we'll look into groaning and we'll arrest them and we'll fucking but like you know we're not gonna don't let it's like a movie where they're fucking they're like dropping things off the truck to try like you know to you know make you crash or whatever um who who who's in that document i mean it was got released friday you would think that if they were gonna fucking i mean even if he died last week they still was released a document right so

How does he get killed, though? You think, I mean, well, we got, I want to, they really should release information on these, like, on the cells. That's the thing. If they were sincere, if they gave a fuck, they would be giving us, like, well, here's the diagram of a cell. Maybe it is, maybe I'm not reading the right newspaper. Maybe they have the information, and I'm just not looking. I got to look at this.

Well, you know, the next episode, we'll follow up. But, you know, like, is it even, like, possible that someone could get in there? Or, like, you know, or without having the entire prison. I mean, there's a way, like, I remember, you know, when I was, I worked at jail for a bit. It was a different kind of jail. But a lot of these play, you know, the walls are kind of cement. Like, how would you get in without having, like, a bunch?

There's a bunch of ways. I mean, again, you know, someone slips you a security card. you know you don't necessarily know the guy you fucking hey what's up these guys are good of just you know working through blind spots so I don't know I mean it probably wasn't guard

you know what kind of guard would do that well you know if they offer to pay you fucking $50 million then he ends up dead in a week you know the guard I mean that's thing probably would be $50 million I mean probably what would you pay him $5, $10 million a lot these guys don't make that much money

you offer them a certain amount of money you got them probably or you blackmail them probably combination of both like hey if you do it we'll give you $10 million if you don't do it we'll kill your kid you know

so you got carrot and stick I'm sure you can get some guards to do it and then they kill them later those guys probably we'll probably see the next it'll be interesting to see

how long it takes before we see guards I'm not sure it'll be reported, but if we look into it, dying. Guards who were on duty that night dying. I mean, the kind of thing where you look back, you know, like five, 10 years, and you go, well, within a year,

six of the seven guards were on duty that night died. The other one's been trying, we don't get to contact him. And then we're like, whoa, and then people go, well, that doesn't mean it definitely happened, but that's how they do it. You know, no one really, like, they care

about the first thing, kind of. Like, You know, they kind of care. Do they care about Jack Ruby killing Oswald? No, they kind of accepted it. I mean, it was a different time, but sure. But even this, they, like, are they, do they care about F.C. being killed? Sure, they care. But, like, we'll see how much that sticks.

We'll see how, you know, people just, you know, all right, like, you know, are we going to actually hold this to account? But the point is, no one really seems to give a fuck about. As long as it doesn't happen right away. Hey, what, would that witness died? Yeah, it has a car crash. What are you going to do? Like, you know, oh, they got a fucking, you know, terminal cancer. Oh, they fucking, they had a fucking heart attack.

You know, no one's checking their toes. Like, Michael Clayton, no one's checking their toes for the fucking syringe. Is that something? I wonder, like, you know, I love Michael Clayton. We've talked about it before. If you haven't seen it, watch it, it's great. But there's a thing with Michael Clayton, well, whatever, I'm going to spoil it. But, you know, can you see Serengetton?

benchmarks in toes. People shout up these heroin between their toes. I know it's less likely to be seen. Are people just not looking for it? Because good ice we're going to have morgue too. Maybe should the M.E. should be should be fucking looking at the toes all the time. It's probably, you know, you probably can't

look at everything. But yeah, that's the thing. I mean, how many these people are going to be alive in a year? I mean, there's no answer now There's no way Like this is the flux Do you have to live in a state of flux We're like this probably happened

They can't prove it But you know But you act as if You act as if These people are capable of doing this They do do it And they'll do it again So you know

I don't want to tell you It shouldn't be any shock I mean The thing I'm most skeptical about it like it's not the core people who are you know you know who you are the core people who've been in on this for a while it's the people who there seems to be more of it now and doesn't seem to just be you know like Reddit guys you you you the heroes are I mean the heroes are red it um lots am suspicious but I don't I don't mean to paint you guys are a brush but you know

there's a certain you guys do your thing and uh you're a certain segment, but it seems like this is a broader demographic going after this one. And I wonder, I'm skeptical about how much stomach they have for it and longevity. And like, you know, when they realize that like, you know, it's no one famous, but like, you know, the heads of these fucking boards of companies you never heard of our fucking kids, are we going to keep the heat or are we going to fucking go, uh, I thought they're going to get Trump or someone, or Bill Clinton, or thought Hillary is going to be charged with pedophilia.

and now I'm bored like is that going to happen are people going to lose you know and I'm not saying like that those people were talking about would even be the next level people who like would be above Clinton

I'm talking about like you know there seems to be like you don't have Hillary but like we had Dennis Hasker already Dennis Hasker as a convicted pedophile here's speaker of the house

like it's high enough that should be high enough for you I mean yeah it could go higher But people, they want They want the big headline They want the big fucking, you know I don't know So this is something

I don't know if it's something The pressing moment or a happy moment For these people But, you know, we'll see We'll see how it develops Um Yeah, that'll be it for today Thanks guys for listening

You know, we have The episode's Friday but we're keeping coming up more regularly now these episodes we had a little bit of a summer I don't know how it this might be the wrong word but you know less frequent recording but you know you guys are back

I'm back we're all back everything's better what better timing is there than this so I got I got to reassemble the list for the Patreon thing so forgive me for not reading the names out today but next episode we'll be back on with that

You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Ray Kump. You can listen to Our Love is Disgusting with me and Lucy Steiner. The new one episode should be coming out the same days today. So check that out. It's a great show. And record that one earlier, so we won't be talking about Epstein in that episode. But not everything has to be that. Not everything has to be, you know, take a breather from Epstein.

There's more things to talk about. and enjoy and I'll see you guys next week.