Kump - 3 - The Rash a Man Can Get

Episode Date: January 17, 2019

Ray adjusts his advertising policy to include corporate blackmail, tackles the Gillette controversy, and explores what it means to be a man. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:42 some big companies went after monsanto went after uh coca cola and fucking uh with a scov toilet paper they have not responded to my threats i mean i didn't pose you the mistreats, I simply, you know, inform them that I recorded these advertisements against, without their consent, I guess you'd say, without their approval, and then
Starting point is 00:01:07 expected payment, remittance, if you want get technical, I guess, remit payment, I said. I put that into a fucking document, and I've not responded yet, and I feel like they probably feel like I don't have leverage
Starting point is 00:01:23 and they might be right, so I have just to try a different tactic this week we'll go for one company first of all let's see it's do more of a test balloon we're going to go with Coca-Cola we have a pre-existent relationship with them and
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm gonna instead of advertising for them to make them and asking them to pay me it's going to be a little bit there I am going to put out into the world some allegations may or may not be true probably aren't and basically they're going to have to pay me to remove this
Starting point is 00:02:00 so that's going to be the new gimmick so Coca-Cola I've heard it's the word is on the street that Coca-Cola has become a symbol of sexual shaming amongst men in the cuck world the cuckdom world men who like to get cucked it is the new thing Coca-Cola is the new beverage of choice for men who cuck each other or like to get cucked, all sorts of, you know, it's the beverage you'd bring if your wife was being pleased by men who warrant you,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and you want to, like, it's a gift you give. You basically, the, what do you call the man, the cuck? I guess he's the cucked them, the cuck pig. He's the pig, or is she the pig. Either way, he's the other guy is the bull. bull and you present the bull with Coca-Cola, a six-pack or maybe a two-liter
Starting point is 00:02:56 Diet Coke even if he's watching his weight, watching his figure, and then the bull fucks the wife and everyone's happy and so if you have Coca-Cola you must be on your way to be giving it to a bull so he can take care of your wife.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So that's out there. That's in the world and it's going to spread like wildfires of Coca-Cola and I'll set a clip to them so you know they might not be subscribers but I'll send them a clip so they are aware and uh hey if you if you're happy with that
Starting point is 00:03:29 fine by me but if you don't want that image out there if you prefer your stupid Santa Claus with his reindeer's your old doing Coca-Cola you know that's what you want out there that's what you want to keep it that way you might as well you know just pay me off give me what I want I want a lot you know we'll work out the numbers
Starting point is 00:03:47 but I'm just I'm a single person here I'm a single operator I don't have a big crew you can buy me off pretty cheap pittance a pittance and I'll be out of your hair forever alright that's the I think of blackmail this is not blackmail
Starting point is 00:04:02 this is not blackmail but that's the thing about blackmail is that you really always better off just paying it off early just whenever they ask just pay them don't fucking try to get all noble oh we're not gonna pay
Starting point is 00:04:16 when you play the game of chicken you don't think you think they're not cut the toe off nothing you're not going to kill the kid or I guess that's kidnapping I'm confusing kidnapping and blackmail I guess but either way you just
Starting point is 00:04:31 fucking pay it pay the money you always get the money back later um no you can't get the money back you're screwed just pay the money you did the thing I mean once he did nothing wrong
Starting point is 00:04:43 you know if they're going to tell people you're gay it's like well you know it's not their business I guess I don't I guess I'm kind of a progressive blackmailer. I was only blackmail people for, you know, things that are, hey, you're poisoning people. I'm going to tell, give me some money.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's fine by me. That's what I'm getting that. That's kind of a quid pro quo I can live with. But not this fucking, don't be shaming people for who they are. You know, some guy wants to be, guys gay, doesn't want, you know, they'll be out. That's his business. Is that your business? It's not your business to out him?
Starting point is 00:05:20 What kind of country? I thought we live in a free country You know, that's the whole thing People confuse what that means I don't know how people who like Advocate for a free The old time We used to live in this free country
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's like yeah So this guy can do whatever the fucking Why is it your business What the fuck he does? You know, why is Oh Transfigure Who doesn't want to fucking
Starting point is 00:05:42 Use my bathroom Use my toilet Let him shit Where they want You care where they shit Now what's trying to fucking Grab your kid You'll get to try to grab your kids
Starting point is 00:05:50 You'll try to grab me kids The guy who fucking does a karate class with him probably That's much more likely That a karate teacher or the Taekwondo teacher Any of the martial arts Are trying to attack your kid Or take your kid and do whatever to him Sexual or beat him up
Starting point is 00:06:05 Whatever it's much more likely that's happening Than some trans person Or gender non-binary person's got a kid Like no one wants to fucking do anything With your kid bad enough to fuck Take them in a fucking bathroom And change their sex change their sex identity to steal your kid they don't have to
Starting point is 00:06:23 people act like you have to like look at look at how bad the situation is in this country kids just get grabbed it's sad look at johnny gosh he got he got grabbed sunday morning but deliver papers and no one knows a fucking thing he's been gone for 40 whatever years no was gonna find them it's just like you got what do these these fucking trans people have to like you know pretend to be trans they're gonna they can grab your kids
Starting point is 00:06:49 No it's fucking illogical I don't understand I mean the amount of effort that they just want to take a shit I mean it's bad enough I walk around this city
Starting point is 00:07:03 New York City and fucking I mean the humanizing aspect of not being able to shit when you eat the shit it's just it'll take its toll on you as a person
Starting point is 00:07:14 I remember on New Year's Day I was in the city I had lunch I was trying to walk around and find a place. I went to fucking delis, pizza parlors, you know, bars, everyone's clothes, and everyone and every restaurant you go to
Starting point is 00:07:29 are our bathroom doesn't work. The bathroom works. They don't want people coming in using their toilet. And I get it. But for all these bike lanes and these fucking weird, like, you know, pedestrian crosswalks and the city, let's not pretend like this city is just some
Starting point is 00:07:45 you know, concrete jungle and sprang out of raw capitalism right it's it's highly engineered at this point and they have no problem saying you can't drive in this road we're gonna put a bike lane here for fucking you know no no no no like actual i mean it's reasons but it's not like you know logical in the sense of you know oh there's so many bikes we have them no they want to do it they want to rebuild the city in their image but this city no one can take a shit you got a grovel to some fucking guy so you know
Starting point is 00:08:18 and like buy a pack of gum in his shitty bodega and so he can let you use his disgusting toilet and I'm not saying like you know it's not an assault on the guy my toilet's not great either but it's not like you know this is not the fucking writs Carlton by the way use their toilets
Starting point is 00:08:34 let them fuck they'll tell you to leave but you can go in and you just make a death's like you don't ask you go in a nice place and you just don't ask you just beeline and like you go straightly you're like how can't help you sir like you just fucking beeline straight
Starting point is 00:08:50 towards a door if you can find it you might end up walking into the kitchen just I don't know you figure it out dude I mean you you can always leave later I can arrest you for trying to find a toilet but just go anywhere like I mean go into anything fancy but the problem is you're on the low
Starting point is 00:09:06 way side what's fancy I'm sure you know what's so nice there's nothing nice there East Village waiting on the target does the target have the target might have toilets people complain about that target oh the target in east village you know because it's not new york it hasn't been in new york in 40 years to relax you're they're going to be death wish this isn't charles bronson new york anymore hasn't been that way forever so let's just well can we all just
Starting point is 00:09:28 take a shit though can we all agree that we're gonna just shit comfortably that's the thing about these like you know these fucking stores that like are being displaced the whatever wave that we're talking about the people being displaced it happened a long time ago i think I think these people were being displaced, or whoever, they pushed out the original people. So, you know, let's not pretend like targets really the villain here. They let me shit. And so I'm on their side. Speaking of large corporations, taking this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Got Gillette that happened this. There's a big kind of, see what I did their fucking controversy with Gillette. They fucking dropped this commercial. So apparently, what's their gimmick, Gillette? the best a man can get that's their whole expression and now it's the best a man can be it's their new ad campaign and what they did was they showed a bunch of men
Starting point is 00:10:23 I guess they showed a problem they showed a bunch of men and young boys being what you would call toxic masculinity or you know they're fucking they're hitting each other they're doing grab ass they're fucking I don't know they I like was there a cat calling in the ad itself I know at the end
Starting point is 00:10:41 they're showing guys stopping a guy from cat calling And then, you know, basically saying, like, hey, oh, man, you fucking, you've been fucking, you had a good run. You've been fucking around for a while. Maybe he'd leave these women be, you know, stop grabbing their ass and their tits. Stop fucking, you know, sticking your fingers in their pussies when they don't want you to. You know, stop fucking showing me cock if it's not solicited. And also, buy our razors for like 50 bucks for two, if you don't mind. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So everyone's in a fucking, first of all, if you just told me. Hey, you know, Gillette, they put an ad up about toxic masculinity. My first response would have been, I'm going to take fucking moral cues from a company that fucking, who don't fucking knows how the razor is getting mad? I'm assuming child labor, but either way, this fucking strip of metal is, they practically give you the razor, right? That's like you, they get you hooked in the razor, and they fucking charge you, they give you, like, one razor with the fucking thing, and we want to refill it. it's like 40 bucks for like a what a four pack a five pack why it's just it's shitty this this is not like quality metal this is not like him quality steel if it was you could sharpen it it's a crappy
Starting point is 00:11:56 aluminum i mean i'm not a fucking metallurgist i don't know what kind of metal it is but the the crooks that this company is these people i mean look if i'm not if i'm wrong if i if if julyt has some fucking why will all these fucking stupid internet companies and i'll pay i'll say your name but i'm not saying your name you pay everyone else but me so fucking pony up and i'll actually give the name but there's plenty of them out there and they fucking they'll send you those razors for like fucking five bucks for the fucking whole pack of them and like so this company's been ripping people off for years and now they have the balls to come in and say hey you know stop want you stop grabbing that girl's catch to the middle of this new year's eve party all right
Starting point is 00:12:37 people trying to watch the ball drop it's like who the fuck asked you jolette I mean yeah you might be right in this case but who the fuck it that's like some fucking guy gets out of jail for like cause he caved some like there's some kid with down syndrome and he fucking saw him at a fucking parking he like just kicked him in the head
Starting point is 00:12:54 because he didn't like he just didn't he was confused he was an angry guy and he was like fuck this guy and he goes to jail for 10 years and he gets out and he's gonna start telling me the fucking not litter like go fuck yourself you kicked in the down syndrome kids head. I mean, I'm not sure. Is how he
Starting point is 00:13:09 referred to these kids? I don't know. But you fucking, I don't know if he killed him, but he did something really bad. You fucking shattered. You made it worse, whatever he's got going on. He made the whole situation worse. And now you're going to fucking tell me not to draw my O. Henry rapper out.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Or my fucking, you know, three musketeers rapper, whatever candy I mean, I'll fucking don't fucking give me this shit. But, you know, whatever. That's my stance going into this. That being said. And also, like, can we, I mean, anyone who starts criticizing an ad, like this ad has a political stance, like, what are you fucking new? You know what this is, all right? Like, you understand that this is a fucking corporation that's owned by an even bigger corporation. Like, I should have to explain this to you. Like, this is not, whatever they're doing, they're doing to make money, you fucking child, all right? No one's taking on moral stand. They're making a capital.
Starting point is 00:14:07 on which group of scumbags is going to fucking yell out of this about their fucking stupid hit and get controversy going even me i'm playing into this this is here right here is the fucking point of it so let's stop fucking like that should be the end of it which is just not talk about it which is just like yeah let's fine but then you see the reaction to it's not the fact that like because no one's saying who you don't pay some people probably are don't pander than me don't fucking you know don't i don't need to listen to you you you cave in some hey jillette you caved in some down syndrome kid's head fuck off but the fucking the men who are responding against this as it this is they're saying it's an attack on masculinity i think this is on fox news there's a criticism like this is jillette making an attack on masculinity by what by by by grabbing because here's this fucking gimmick they're saying that like men there's a masculinity crisis in America that somehow we you know the problem is not the men are too toxic
Starting point is 00:15:15 or is that they're not masculine is that they're not masculine enough and not taking responsibility and they're not fucking you know doing their masculine part with the what I'm not sure I mean I know look here's a problem
Starting point is 00:15:29 men and women could whatever trace we want to put on masculinity typically as far as aggression as far as like being assertive and not taking and just not being a fucking wishy-washy scumbet. Yeah, sure, everyone should have that and everyone should fucking if that's what we're calling masculine, but they're not.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I don't know what they're calling masculine. This myth that men take a response. I mean, look, those men are still out there. Here's the thing. No one, you fucking act like these men were like these, like, rugged,
Starting point is 00:16:01 flannel wearing, like, dock workers and they're all just doing the American dream and, like, fucking. and now we're all just playing like you know make believe in the fucking computer graphics office like the jobs are not there
Starting point is 00:16:16 like those what you're associated I work in the fucking potato bread warehouse those guys are still there they're not great these guys are not the fucking panacea you're pretending them to be I mean whatever you want to call the whole masculine thing
Starting point is 00:16:28 is basically just do your work and shut up and that's noble it's also like you know it's it's really all it is though these are not enlightened people they're not that tough they're not that interesting not that fucking they're just kind of crabby I mean
Starting point is 00:16:44 I worked at midnight the 8 shift right in a bread warehouse these guys stroll at 3 in the morning they're fucking cranky they're taking all the call I make a coffee pot the big coffee pot the guy comes in and fills his whole fucking thermos with coffee like that's not why I'm here that's not why the coffee's here
Starting point is 00:17:00 the coffee's there to fucking put one styrofoam cup you drink it you fucking may have it maybe we put it Intimist's donut out for you. You enjoy that while you fucking chit-chat with the other drivers, and then you go on your day. But you fill up, you come in,
Starting point is 00:17:14 you fill your whole thermos up, Eddie, you scumbag, you fucking, and you leave your truck while he's running for like an hour and a half while you load because you're like 75 years old. You shouldn't fucking sold you around by now.
Starting point is 00:17:27 It takes you forever to load. You're in the way. You're fucking, now got to make a whole other pile of coffee. It's like these people, these guys aren't great. These guys are not. the fucking
Starting point is 00:17:37 these aren't supermen and fucking lumberjacks they're just men they're just fucking scummy men men are like men and women are all everyone's scummy we think the women who do these jobs
Starting point is 00:17:49 go go go where do you think these guys are going they're going to Costco to go drop their bread off and who's who's receiving the bread at the Costco or the stopping child half the time of some fucking cranky woman who's also like just a cranky pig and just all you know they all have
Starting point is 00:18:05 a little fucking pick they'll lose these fucking i've been on these roots they're fucking just scratchy they don't smoke fucking smoke and they just if you do one thing wrong like if you don't have your fucking receipt in the right position they'll fucking start like getting past their aggressive with you these are the fucking salt of the earth there is no salt in the earth all right so i don't know what
Starting point is 00:18:25 fox news is referring to who was there yeah i'm sure you have more stevedores in the docks of baltimore those guys would get it done too no one likes to see you walk into an office, all right? It's not noble. It's not, it doesn't look good. But that's because you know, if you were around to see the shit I saw at 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:18:46 These fucking, just guys, this uncouth fucking people. These fucking men. I don't know what this golden age of men was. You talk about the movies we're watching? This fucking John Wayne movie? Like, first of all,
Starting point is 00:19:02 can we read it John Wayne's the biggest scumbag that's ever graced the screen? I I hate no one more than John Wayne. What a fraudulent case. It's not even about toxic masculinity or not. It's just a... This guy is such a fraud. Such a fucking fraudulent display
Starting point is 00:19:19 of what the old... A guy in the old West would have been. He's just some fucking... I mean, ignorant actor who, like, you know, he talked shit about fucking Dustin Hoffman and John Voight, I mean that cowboy when they won.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like, oh, there's a movie of the two fags. Like, this fucking slob. I'm supposed to, like, look up to this guy, I remember a time when he was the fucking, or Frank Sinatra, this fucking guy, this mob-connected fucking guy who fucking probably helped get Kennedy killed. I was going to look up to him. I remember when the rap pack was a old drunk, and they fucking just, you know, they're probably like just being, like, just being terrible to a fucking, you know, minority, like, bellhop. Maybe, or it could have been a white bellhop. All right, they were equal opportunity, sure. They weren't good people.
Starting point is 00:20:02 They probably just pissed themselves, like, shh, fucking, what's his name? was Dean Martin was probably shitting into the bed like never wearing underwear just like taking a shit on the fucking bed because he's so drunk and like but this is a great this is a great era the golden age I don't know what Fox News is
Starting point is 00:20:19 defending for like this whole oh man you take responsibility responsibility for what that's not that's not that's not the issue here I mean is that is that why we had the financial crisis is that why we had is that what we had
Starting point is 00:20:35 fucking a litany of foreclosure i mean it couldn't the hell hurt if i guess people were responsible you know they wouldn't have taken these loans out but who the fuck was giving it to him who the fuck you know what what god damn institution how about a financial institution should be more responsible and not giving it we'll call them predatory loans you go ahead they're predatory loans either way the fucking like they're not sound loans you know they don't make sense on paper if any of you have a brain you would realize it will collapse but no we're going to The problem is that man Or, we're not allowed to be masculine enough
Starting point is 00:21:08 You can be as masculine as you fucking want Who the fuck's telling you not? I mean, I don't... What are you seeing this ad? It's like not masculine. Like, don't grab tits. Like, literally, you guys stopping a guy from like fucking Like, what do you call it?
Starting point is 00:21:24 A cat call it. And like, that's a problem. Like, oh, don't... No, but let them cackle. Hey, let them fucking yell about their fucking salty tits. And your tits look salty, bro. I like your tuts Your fucking
Starting point is 00:21:38 Your tart You fucking dumb tart Look at your dumb tart lips Well fuck you And like some guys like hey Why don't you chill out Because literally goes Hey you're not cool
Starting point is 00:21:46 That's the guy says He goes Hey you're salty tit bro I want to fuck you And the other guy's like not cool And that guy's the villain Because you should be able To just yell at women
Starting point is 00:21:55 Oh look at you Why don't you make a douche My lips and clean your pussy with it And that should be okay Yeah I would I mean This sounds like a funny time, you know, the fun, I don't think it was ever cool to do this shit.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't know, I don't know why we're going to single out this Jalek him or, this is no, they're a problem. How is this even masculine? How is showing a woman your cock masculine? How is that, like, how does that become the fucking symbol of masculinity? That, like, you know, hey, I want to fuck you. I want to fuck you, brood. Like, that's, that, like, wouldn't, wouldn't, like, want to fuck someone and not
Starting point is 00:22:33 immediately telling them that be the more mad like the whole thing about masculinity you're fucking the silent hero that's the mean it's a myth but still the idea the silent hero the guy puts it on her shoulders doesn't complain in your version this vision of masculinity he's guys you know hey my balls
Starting point is 00:22:49 hurt because I want to suck you tits and you have to deal with that like that doesn't seem to me very heroic it's not a silent hero Jesus I mean like I don't some kids are fighting and, like, the parents stopped them.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I mean, yeah, I guess we should let kids beat the shit of each other. I'm not even kidding. Maybe let kids maim each other with pipes. I've always said, if I have a kid, I'm going to give him a pipe. And I'm going to say to him, though,
Starting point is 00:23:18 you're not allowed to hit anyone, any kids in the face of this pipe unless they also have a pipe. But you see a kid with a pipe and it's fucking fair game and just go pipe towel on this motherfucker. Because I want all kids to have pipes and they just fucking cave each other's heads in
Starting point is 00:23:33 because that's how we get a masculine fucking country going you know and we can that's how we remember the good old days with the Iraq war what we need to get back to that all right
Starting point is 00:23:44 problem is we don't enough like actual or these pussy wars we have now like Syria what are we doing in Syria what are we trying to blow up in Syria I don't even know fucking
Starting point is 00:23:54 pussy non masculine problem in this country we're not we used to embrace how tough we were we're fucking you know Colin Powell went to the UN just fucking
Starting point is 00:24:05 we got weapons in his trailers and fucking and they were like no they don't here's evidence and he's like you suck my dick and like that was it I mean that's not fair Colin Powell I think he was actually the one guy in the administration who but yeah
Starting point is 00:24:20 she left the administration you know what was going on let's not pretend like Colin Powell was some hero either okay like he knew he kind of knew when he thought no I could be the guy on the inside doing better like you know it's better if I'm here no it wasn't actually was worse because people believed in a little bit and that's a sidebar sorry colin pal but you know toxic masculinity that's a good war though right it was a good war
Starting point is 00:24:44 i don't know what are we looking to the vietnam Reagan i mean everything that you point to is a myth everything you point to is a goddamn cipher like you know was nixon masculine was fucking was Kennedy? I mean, Kennedy was a drunken, like Irish guy from New England, a feat like, like, you know, rich kid, basically. Yeah, a lot of great traits, but like,
Starting point is 00:25:11 was that masculine? Like, what, at what point do you become masculine in this vision of the world? Like, who do you envision these people work? These actors you're talking about? These fucking politicians, these fucking heroes. Like, I mean, you could play with double-edged sword here.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Hey, yeah, like, you really can't call JFK masculine, but do we really also want, like, do you have to, like, you know, literally be a guy like me who fucking had his head and someone's holding someone's brains, flipping them over, getting four views as a brain? Is that even mad? I mean, maybe I should have been the guy, like, cutting the brains open. Is that more masculine? I mean, I don't know a lot of weird shit.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I mean, I've had this photograph things that come out of men's asses is a prison. Is that masculine? I mean, it does deal with the ass of a man. It's a knife. A knife's pretty tough. is that masculine I don't know what these fucking things are like what's wrong with saying
Starting point is 00:26:05 hey don't just go and grab that woman's pussy because is that an attack on a man I mean yeah it comes from Gillette I mean also like what is Jill this is supposed to be a rebranding for Gillette
Starting point is 00:26:22 I don't remember and I'm not trying to be like you know help out Gillette here but I don't remember them having ads saying like Hey, go grab some tit. Buy our razors. The best a man can get. Like, hey, you know where I like when I'm getting my knob domed? A fucking sandwich.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You'll make me a sandwich, bitch. And they get me some Gillette razors. Like, is that what was going on back in the 60s? I don't even remember. Joe, was Joe Namath just doing ads and his pants off going like, hey, tuts? Why is it in your mouth on my dumb fucking big cock? Get me a razor.
Starting point is 00:26:58 my fucking balls are hairy Gillette the best a man can get like that would have been I mean if that's what we want to go back to I get it because I get why these people are mad because look I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:27:10 this the right thing to be but at least that's fun on some level not if you're the woman per se but you know at least you're looking at a time going oh that's what we can point to we can point to Joe name it with his big hung Italian cock
Starting point is 00:27:23 just hanging out going hey make me a sandwich and suck this pricking and Gillette Razors. They go, look, that stands for something. At least they're, like, this guy is trying to sell me something, but he's also taking a stand. I respect that. And God bless America while we're at it. And now the guys who grew up in that era who fucking, you know, worked at Pan Am and got fired by Reagan when they struck. And they watched Bruce Springsteen tell him the American
Starting point is 00:27:52 dream was dead. They watched their friends die in Vietnam. And now they got to watch this fucking, you know the one thing they had left Gillette Razors the people who were selling overpriced bits of metal but they would show him Joe Namath big Italian cock and they knew everything was okay and even they were like hey don't grab this
Starting point is 00:28:11 don't rape this woman hey men fucking did some shit we got a tone for fuck that no like they don't want to hear it like I don't understand yes men are responsible for some as a whole
Starting point is 00:28:24 as a whole there's some shit we did like you know if this thing I don't like hear this bullshit like it's the same thing with slavery people go like yeah you don't fucking talk to me my grandpa came from Serbia
Starting point is 00:28:38 in 1948 I'm not I wasn't a slave owner no one first of all is a slave owner here and maybe there's a few guys who grew up in the south who's like great who actually have plantation money in the family and yeah sure that's worse unless fucking me fuck those guys are so
Starting point is 00:28:54 principal but the point is you're part of a goddamn democratic government. You're a republic. What do you want to call it? You're a representative government. All right? We preck and why do our kids about, we over-emphasize how democratic it is.
Starting point is 00:29:08 But, you know, let's just take it at face value. It's a goddamn democracy. You're a republic. You're responsible for what your government does then, all right? And as a generation that's inherited this government, you know, you can say, you know, I didn't do anything. But the government itself is an entity, all right? and the government exists because of past actions
Starting point is 00:29:29 and past, you know, collections of money and whatever inheritance and wars. I mean, it's an accumulation of all that we've done in the past. I mean, you know, we have a, well, if you want to look at the, you know, the slate, we're doing a lot better than the, if you want to start going, like, you know, we shouldn't have to, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:49 pay for the penance for what we did in the past. We shouldn't have the benefit either, and we have the fucking territory and the military, and the fucking financial prowess the financial status in this world you know that is a result of
Starting point is 00:30:03 fucking imperialism basically and you know you can argue the best case is what we did in World War II and we deserved it because we fucking saved Europe and it's a little horse shit but whatever but the point is like you you you're responsible for what this is and the same thing of men you men benefit from a lot of shit in this country
Starting point is 00:30:20 they have it easy no one has it easy everyone's life fucking sucks, all right? Stop by heckin' will have it. Unless you're a fucking part of, like, you know, some crew that goes around, I don't know, having yachts and fucking getting blown by, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:37 ostriches, exotic birds are sucking your cock. I mean, that sounds nice, but, like, very few people do that. All right? So, odds are your life sucks. You can't use that as an excuse, okay? You have it better or different
Starting point is 00:30:53 than when you have it better for the most part. better in the sense you have more options, all right? Like, I don't care if it was a Jordan Peterson thing about, like, well, when they were actually, you know, men weren't oppressing women, they were both depressed, fine. But the point is, there was laws in the books saying women couldn't vote. Women couldn't really enter the workplace, the same way men could without fear, you know, harassment and shit. For years, even that, I mean, it's got a lot better. It's mostly better for women in the workplace, but it's still shit they deal with.
Starting point is 00:31:20 There's a lot of other, you know, fat places where they still have to deal with this shit. all right so like i'm sick and tired of hearing people like all these women are overshooting like they're overshooting the attack well you act like all men are villains and it's like why don't you be the goddamn silent hero the gary cooper and realize oh this is this repression where everyone call has been happening for fucking decades and centuries and they're finally getting, you know, their moment in the sun to say something, and they overstepped their bad, oh, maybe that's just part of the, like, what, you think everything's going to be perfect? You fucking, let's just say you enslaved someone for 100 years and people, and you fucking
Starting point is 00:32:05 let you really, they end of slavery. They should just be fucking like, you know, oh, everything's fine. Don't fucking, there shouldn't be any repercussion. Now you're being reverse slave, like, reverse the racism. It's like, I mean, there's a place for making those statements, but the reality of the day is like, let's not. There isn't still a huge advantage to being some fucking guy versus being, like, you know, a woman, like the opportunities you have. I mean, it's just, as a guy, you don't have to walk around worried about getting raped.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's a big plus. Like, I go walk, I don't even live in the greatest neighborhood. I don't worry about getting raped ever, even at 2 a.m. I walk around, I got my pants off, just fucking jiggling my fucking asshole around, just showing it off, bending over, being a teard. and like, I'm pretty sure I won't get raped. Pretty sure. And that's not true for a woman. They can't just bend their ass over like I could
Starting point is 00:32:59 and just show it off to people. 2 a.m. in the middle of the neighborhood that's not the nicest and not worry about getting raped. So, like, right after bat, you have rape concerns. And then, like, you know, just attack concerns. I mean, if you want to take the sexual assault element out of it, yeah, I'm not as worried about getting mugged. It happens, but I'm not as worried about it
Starting point is 00:33:19 as a young, small woman, or even a big woman. They're more likely to get tax. I mean, what else? The fucking, you know, no one's worried. I dress like a slob most of the time, and I'm still relatively respected. Like, I go to work, I walk into work, and people treat me more respected than I should. I mean, I wore the same cheap hoodie from Walmart every day and, you know, the same dicky's pants. I mean, I buy new ones every once in a while because the crotch blows out.
Starting point is 00:33:45 But the fucking point is, I don't make an effort. women, if they dress a bunch of a slob as I do, they'd be fucking they'd be repercussions. They have to be, women have to be kind of sexual but not sexual. They have to be hot, attractive but a hot. There's a whole fucking bunch of shit they got to do, which is different.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And yeah, some men rise up to a level above me, sure, they actually care about their woke, but they don't have to as much. Yeah, of course there's dress codes if you're in a fucking corporation or you're a lawyer. I'm just saying, like, the like, whatever world you're living,
Starting point is 00:34:17 And odds are that, like, the men just have us a simpler time of it. So can we stop pretending, like, every fucking, every goddamn moment a woman comes out and goes, hey, this is like where a company comes to go, hey, men, we got to, like, do better or fucking points out what men are, this is an attack on masculinity. Maybe it is. But maybe the part of the problem is that you've fucking allowed masculinity to be lumped in with this horse shit like dick waving and fucking gesturing and fucking like why can't you just talk to a woman without grabbing her tits or spitting into their asshole doesn't need to be done you can treat women with respect and yeah like look i'm i saw plenty of shit in my life like we're like like you know men don't act like pigs are you go out to a bar women like men act like pigs like not as much in the city but you see it all the time in lago island and it's like not every guy But, I mean, if you allowed men to just do whatever they want, they would be slabs.
Starting point is 00:35:22 The same way, if you allowed women to, the difference in the men are bigger. I'm not saying, like, that morally men are inferior to women. It's just like, what do you expect to happen? Most people are animals. Most people are just pigs. And, you know, the fucking bigger group of people with the more fucking social, whatever, the fuck, I mean, we built a society mostly around men. like what of course it's going to happen this is not some fucking assault on like the dignity of mankind now it might feel like that sometimes but you have to fucking
Starting point is 00:35:54 that's you how about that is you being the man taking responsibility you're being the fucking silent hero just realize hey we had good for a while now sometimes i'm going to feel bad i'm gonna feel bad when a where the commercial comes on i'm a tax i mean what kind of pussy i mean if you really want to talk brass tax what kind of pussy shit is that oh i'm gonna attacked by his commercial. They're attacking my masculinity. What kind of man would you have been in the first place
Starting point is 00:36:20 if you stop being a man because of a Gillette commercial? You fucking fraud. I mean, the amount of fucking... I may I walk around this city? I don't know if it should be more masculine. I don't know if I make it better. I would prefer... I mean, no one stops me from being masculine.
Starting point is 00:36:39 If I want to call it that, whatever me be allowed about? Me being a fucking... You know, I walk past a bank. every day in the way they work and they fucking do these like you know movie shoots in this like it's an old abandoned
Starting point is 00:36:53 like historical bank and they do movie shoots outside all the time we're inside like every every other week you see like a film crew bringing shit in and like sometimes they try like you know cut this like
Starting point is 00:37:04 not let you walk in the sidewalk I just yell I mean I don't listen to them I mean it's fucking fuck off and like you can walk I mean you just walk past them and like
Starting point is 00:37:15 You start thinking, though, because these aren't, like, you can't close up a sidewalk. So, like, you know, why are they doing? Because they're just assuming that all these fucking kids in Williamsburg are you going to see a guy who isn't a fucking complete, you know, waif in his fucking, with his form, whatever you call these glasses, these kids wear, and, like, you know, they're just going to, like, you know, if you tell them in a certain voice, they'll do whatever you say. And that's probably true. I'm not even mad at the guy.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm not going to fucking listen to him. I mean, I don't even know. Am I legally supposed to listen to those construction guys with a stop sign? I feel like if you don't have a gun on you, I'm not going to listen. Like, society has told me I have to listen to cops because they have guns. And, you know, maybe they shouldn't have to have guns. And, you know, in England, they don't think they have guns all the time. You still listen to them.
Starting point is 00:38:05 But in this case, I listen to cops with guns because they might shoot me. I feel like that's fair. That's like, you know, at least there's some semblance of, you know, freedom in this country My freedom's being encroached on But at least you have a gun Like at least there's just threat of death There's something dignified about that
Starting point is 00:38:28 There's something dignified about the fact of like You know we're not going to come to you And like start telling you how to live your life Unless we're willing to kill you It may be sound counterintuitive But I feel like You know when you start coming to me with a fucking stop sign in your hand
Starting point is 00:38:47 and I was just to listen to you Like that's degrading People might think the gun is degrading I think the other thing is more degrading I was to listen to you without a gun Like you know You're just some schmuck You're some schmuck in the fucking neon orange vest
Starting point is 00:39:00 I got and you look You're as fat as I am And you have a fucking stop sign placard That has to listen to you That's a degrading thing I mean at least they're a cop They're a little better shape to me hopefully they might shoot me in the eye
Starting point is 00:39:15 I can respect that so I don't know I mean is that what people well I want more masculinity in you know Williamsburg for instance when you walk around Williamsburg I don't know I mean like these guys
Starting point is 00:39:28 they're all phonies that's a thing men are all phonies most guys like I mean I'm sure if you go to a place like Saudi which I assume is still you know the way that they picked it in I don't know all these movies but like you know people are just getting the fights all the time and they're real knuckleheads
Starting point is 00:39:46 and bruisers and like you know they'll just beat the shit of each other and you know better or worse that is what it is but like at least it's authentic but i mean most of the you know the men you see around and pretend to be tough they're just pretending to be tough i mean they're not tough i mean there are plenty of guys out there who do get the fights and a lot of times it's not the ones you think you'd be the tougher of the guys that's the thing it's like this whole idea of what is masculine a lot of times the most masculine you know stereotypically looking masculine. The guy that'd be in a Gillette commercial
Starting point is 00:40:17 with his square jaw and his fucking dump stubble he gets his fucking head head cave there with a pipe this is a pipe theme show today but you know the guys in the neighborhood they wouldn't like him. He's too pretty. He's too fucking what is the male? This is Larry Hey Larry over there works for the Gillette does those ads make a lot of money to pay
Starting point is 00:40:38 they pay a lot of money to use his razors on TV I mean, they just don't, and they don't like that. They fucking hit him with a fucking pipe, and then he's paralyzed. I mean, which one's more masculine? The guy in the end of the guy who was a pipe. I mean, the boat, I don't think the guy with the pipe is a hero. We would call him a hero? I mean, if you want to call him masculine, which one would do better in a primordial society?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Probably the guy's got to pipe, you know? Probably wouldn't fuck with him. Probably wouldn't try to eat his meat. The guy's got some meat. He leaves, you know, on a rock. he'll hit you in a fucking buffalo he'll have the head of a buffalo and rip it him it off hit you with it I'm just imagine
Starting point is 00:41:17 like what are we looking it's the whole point of society is to move away from that so what are we we want to like you know kind of keep these remnants of masculine culture but they're all just these weird tokens these weird totems you know
Starting point is 00:41:33 you notice these guys always have like they always have their ass look good in jeans in these old Gillette commercials they probably you know that's not Man, men's asses, you know, don't look good. I guess not some guy who works picking up fucking cow shit and, like, you know, burning it. Whatever. I mean, I'm not that familiar with, you know, a lot of men's jobs. But, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You know, a guy wearing a carhard vest, just fucking cutting the head off a deer. I mean, that guy's ass not going to look for, you wear carhart pants. They're not the best for your ass. But they're rugged, strong pants. That's the point. like i don't know what we're aiming for with these fucking oh there's an attack on god damn just stop raping people if you stop raping people as much you stop grabbing their tits they'll probably be fine why are we why are we so goddamn hung up on this attack on
Starting point is 00:42:31 oh they're trying to nerf the world i mean honestly most of the shit out there if you like the movies they're just dog shit but they're not like nerd there's plenty of fucking gore to go around there's plenty of fucking action to go around how much actual feminist stuff I mean
Starting point is 00:42:47 you're worried about like Avengers being too fucking too many women in Avengers the new Captain Marvel I was watching the trailer for the new Captain Marvel movie I don't know this doesn't look particularly good whatever and you know the comments guys are going
Starting point is 00:43:01 total Mary Sue she's a Mary Sue I don't know if you're really this whole concept of Mary Sue but like apparently it's the thing in feminism or anti-feminism I mean feminist characters that like don't have to earn anything
Starting point is 00:43:16 like Ray and Star Wars like she's just good off the bat like she just knows how to fight with a lightsaber and she doesn't have any faults I'm like yeah I mean when you read about it it it basically sounds like oh it's bad writing but I guess yeah sure
Starting point is 00:43:28 look I'm not saying there isn't an SJW agenda a lot of this shit and that Star Wars movie that came out last year everyone's a man about was it i'm not the argument it's not s j w jerk fest and they're trying like you know cram this shit on your throat sure they are i'm just saying stop watching star wars you're fucking 40 years old all right get like become an adult stop fucking being coming a fan all right i don't know why everyone values being a fan being a fan just means that you're a non-disterning
Starting point is 00:44:00 like you're just going like yeah give it to you're a cuck you're basically a cuck for George Lucas and by proxy whoever he sold his stupid thing to just open your mouth you just come into my mouth it doesn't matter how you treat me and I'll just fucking I'll just look your balls and most it's just
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean this whole thing with this cat Marvel like you know her acting doesn't look great as Bree Larsson but you know other than that it's like oh she's too power because the whole idea is she's overpowered usually in a Mary Sue and it's like
Starting point is 00:44:31 is Superman a fucking these are all these are goddamn stories about the Hulk the Hulk the Hulk was the Hulk of Mary Sue he was overpower compared to everyone he fought in the first movie who get like this like this
Starting point is 00:44:45 this rush to make everything a battleground well yeah look but did fucking Star Wars the new one suck yeah but sucked anyway it was a badly written thing regardless well that's the thing
Starting point is 00:44:59 there there was some like SJW comics at Marvel did a couple years ago when they skimmed through some of them they seem kind of shitty but it's also like no one run them and like there's need to be but there's this whole like mentality has taken place where it's like men are under attack and it's like they're trying some shit
Starting point is 00:45:17 SJWs are trying some shit and like is that really the worst thing I mean is it really the worst thing that a fucking ad is coming on saying hey don't just fucking yell at a woman Hey, I'm going to rape you. Like, don't yell at a woman on the street. And you guys are like, don't fucking attack my masculine.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like, pick your battles. Jesus Christ. Like, fucking, I don't know what you want. I don't know what. Like, you looked at the Me Too thing and you go, oh, I mean, you think it didn't, like, most of these didn't happen? You think Kevin Spacey didn't fucking, you know, try to rape a 14-year-old kid? Do you think fucking Harvey Weinstein didn't fucking do all this shit? I mean, really, what are we saying?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Are we acting like this is all bullshit? Or are we acting like this wasn't a problem? I mean, of course it's a problem. Oh, me too. Now it's becoming, people are like getting sick of it. I mean, it is kind of gotten out of the mainstream, I guess. But at its peak, people are going, oh, enough of this. It's like, how are you sick?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Like, it's either, if these things stop coming out, then I guess, you know, but if there's still stuff out there, like, oh, just still going to keep happening? Well, yeah, as long as people are getting raped or whatever we're going to call it. The various degrees of rape. I'm just saying people have a legitimate gripe. But, you know, and to act, like, men or somehow, like, being victimized here,
Starting point is 00:46:43 it's like, look, there is some people who want to villainize men in various degrees. And some of them will be wrong. But fucking, act, act like, be better than they're saying you are. Rive to the occasion is all I'm saying Alright
Starting point is 00:47:02 Have a nuanced response You can respond to this Without having to try and destroy feminism Or trying to like you know Throw all of feminism into a fucking You know whatever And paint it with this brush of like It's all just by attacking men
Starting point is 00:47:19 Some of it is Most of it isn't Why don't you show some maturity And fucking sift through it And respond with nuance that's all I'm saying that's the tough thing to do you know
Starting point is 00:47:33 when I look at his commercial go yeah they have a point don't grab that woman's tit good for you Gillette I mean this is still a corporate can we stop pretending like these aren't scumbags though either way
Starting point is 00:47:45 can we fucking just burn your beard off I'm gonna make a company we're gonna literally sell some kind of fucking device I'm gonna put Gillette out of business that's my goal I'm just sick of it
Starting point is 00:48:01 I don't say why don't shave anymore I'm not gonna spend fucking 50 bucks a month or shit cut no keep this stubble I'm a disgusting hairy animal
Starting point is 00:48:11 whatever thanks so much for listening guys you guys have been great we got a lot of new shit coming in the works I'm very excited follow me on Twitter at Ray Kump
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