Kump - 38 - The Bill Comes Due w/ Tim Dillon

Episode Date: April 5, 2020

Ray is joined by Tim Dillon, and they discuss his philanthropy, the future of New York real estate, globalist hucksters in the age of Covid-19, and much more.

Hello and welcome to Kump. Coming to you a lot, not live, but from New York City, the epicenter of the epidemic. My throat's a bit scratchy, I'm a bit clammy. but I don't think I have COVID. I have not left my house in a month. I don't know. I am joined today by a very special guest, the illustrious, the magnanimous,

the benevolent, the charitable, the giver of life to nurses. He gives life to the people who give life. Welcome to the show, Tim Dillon. I imagine there will be an award. I don't want to be presumptuous, but I imagine there will be some type of award

for the fact that I bought lunch from pasta pomadaro in Jersey and had them deliver it to the doctors and nurses there. Let's be honest. I mean, the doctors, maybe not, but the nurses, the best meal they probably ever had in their life. Yeah, it's also funny because, like, I just imagine a bunch of fat, sluggish nurses full of like chicken parm, Penny Alavacca.

You just load them up with chicken. It just carved them up, for ready to take a nap. you're like passing out you know someone's grandma's dead because you fucking gave him too many breadsticks yeah I just imagine like the guy who's running the floor is like enough what the chicken front has people are dying

do you think people are fucking dying you think people oh no I guess it takes away your sense of smell which is the only saving because I think it would be hilarious for people to be dying and going like what are you having a fucking a Kinsenier or not Kinsenia where the Italians have a Tarantella who knows

be funny just like just smelling chicken franchise and just coughing hitting the button Yeah, people keep saying it takes away your sense of smell But doesn't every sickness Like doesn't every sickness When you're really sick

Do you ever taste like you used to Like, you know When you're really sick with something, man You don't want to eat Well, you know It's not the taste buds usually It's the vomiting and the shitting But yeah, I hear you

Um You know What, uh, did you make the menu Or did you just tell them like get them something nice How did that go? I called up, I said listen I got 100 people people, what are we doing?

And she goes, how about Panaylovak? I said, great. She goes, what about chicken parm? I said, phenomenal. Right. I said, let's do some vegetarian. How about eggplant parm? She goes, great.

She goes, we should probably do one more. I'm like, how about a pasta? They upsold you? And then she goes, no. Well, yeah, she goes, 100 people. Yeah. So she goes, she goes, each tray fees like around 25. So she goes, let's do a pasta primaver is very popular.

I said, that sounds great, you know? She got in the, I mean, honestly, these people, they deserve the timpaw. Was it a timpana? You couldn't have gotten them a nice timpana? Oh, yeah, yeah, from Big Night. Yeah, the special dish from Big Night. What a great allegory Big Night is for so many things in the world, you know? Like the little shitty restaurant that has a great chef that wants to make really good food.

And then the, you know, the big just bucket of tomato sauce that does well. like, you know, a few blocks away. And it's impossible to feel bad for the failing restaurant, which is why I love the movie so much. Because, like, even though you want to succeed, you know why they won't. Right. And you also, it's just so interesting.

You know, it's a good movie. It's actually a good movie that people should see if they haven't seen it. No, Big Night. Big Night's great. Yeah. What's the other one? The guy. Isabel Rosalini, right?

Is Bella Rosalini? It's great. Tony Shalub. Phenominal. Yeah, Stanley Tucci, right, or am I wrong? Stanley Tucci, is Stanley Tucci and Tony Shaluba brothers in the movie? Yes, so many people forget how many of these guys got their start in 90s TV. You know, it's very interesting.

Stanley Tucci was on a show called Murder 1, which ran for two seasons on ABC. The first season, it was just bald. It was the first season, it was clearly like they were trying to, like, capture the energy like the O.J. Simpson trial because they had one trial last the whole season, and it was this guy. This bald lawyer named Teddy, and it was this actor, this big bald guy. And then the next season, that Anthony La Polly had, they had, like, multiple trials, and it just failed. That guy is, yeah. Yeah, which guy?

Andy La Paglia. He's, first of all, he's like a photo copy of someone else. He's like the second, like, I can't place who. But they tried to shove him into everything. He's like the poor man's, like, Alec Baldwin or something. Yeah, that's exactly what he had. It's a great way to say. He was the poor man's Alec Baldwin.

He tried the murder one. The great thing about Teddy was he was like, the guy that played him, Daniel, but I think he's almost like Benghazi. I forget what his name is. But like, he was mysterious. He was a good actor, you know. And it was a, you know, 90s deed. And Stanley Tucci was in Murder One. It was funny.

Like, I think he might have, like, he might have had a role in NYPD Blue, too. Like, he might have done, like, a lot of these guys had guest starring roles. Oh, they jump around, yeah. I mean, you know, Fraser, who's in the Pentagon War. which not a bigger film, but it was a great film. Did you see the Pentagon Wars? A lot of people...

Yeah, what did you say? The Pentagon Wars, it was an HBO film about the, basically the Pentagon corruption and they were trying to build the Bradley fighting vehicle and just the amount of like red pork and just like ineptitude and corruption, which was also a great allegory for this pandemic

just because, you know, like it's... Yeah. Every fucking contract that's, you know, probably being made right now is just, you know, let's sit on it for a week and make them really, and like bid it up. Let's bid it up. Yeah, you know, I have not seen that, but it is certainly interesting because, like, everybody that's, you know, when the government hands out money, you know, everybody's going to line up, you know, every business is going to line up.

I just thought it was so funny the other day, like, businesses trying to make themselves seem essential that clearly aren't, you know. Look at the my pillow guy And the fucking And who's making masks Fucking, uh They're fucking Joanne Do you see Joanne

When they announce that everyone should wear a mask in public I just love the guy from jockey Underwear got up there He was like we've been making underwear for this country for a long time Like stick to the fucking What is that to do with anything? People love our panties Yeah

You know You put your cock in something nice Make you feel good You might bail us out Trump Yeah, I mean, it really is how America would end Where it's like the CEO of Buffalo Wildlings You know It would be so great

It was like it's like because like our French Revolution Or equivalent would not be like People being like accounted for their like their sins against the people It would just be like there'd be a public dole They'd be announced And there's all these fucking Yahoo like CEOs would be like Well here's where I should get a cut It's just like it's like who's getting a cut

The fucking tax money or whatever stimulus oh yeah dude i mean everybody's at the trough and why not did you see this pentagon guy despite i think i think like a general whoever but like he was a press conference at the white house i think and uh they're questioning why are you like giving these supplies that are companies emergency supplies you're giving them to private companies and he's just going look these people have supply chains they have warehouses you know i'm not trying to disrupt supply chains here but so clearly like because he's probably not that corrupt this guy so it's just so funny to watch like career.

Not that I'm like, you know, no one's crying for the generals. But this is kind of funny to see, like, because you're a good soldier. He's got, you know, play the line. So it's just so funny to see him have to like kind of a account for someone else's corruption and like justify it. Right. Yeah. I mean, I kind of don't, you know, I'm not watching the news conferences as much as I was.

In the beginning, I was watching it every day. And then you quickly, you quickly, like they, like, comedically, like they exhaust their potentially after a while because like you've just seen it you've seen it you kind of made all the jokes you can make about it and then you start realizing that there's no news coming out of these things

you know what I mean? Like there's no actionable news so you just kind of sit back and you're like hey let me know when we're going in camps or let me know when we got a vaccine like that's kind of where I'm at now where I'm like I'm at the point of the quarantine

where I'm like, if it gets much better or much worse, I'm sure I'll know. But other than that, it's like there's 90 million articles now that are just all of these models and projections and predictions. And it's like, yeah, none of that has any value to me or most people. They're making us everyone wearing masks or asking everyone that wear masks. And so Joanne, you know, Joanne's fabrics, that store where you go to buy like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Goet and fabric, yeah.

So they announced they were donating or like the materials to make masks to the hospitals with like, you know, kits like to show you how to make them. And then someone like some employee leaks, they just get this stuff is all coming out of the clearance bin. This is this is real shit. It's just like, I hope you had like Joe Ann's just like donating their trash. Oh, like, hey, why don't you use this in the hospital? I mean, we're such a, you know what's interesting. about, you know, this country in the, like, in the position that we're in right now is that it's kind of hilarious that, like, you know, we weren't even in a recession

before this, like, things were so good before this. Right. That, like, even with 9-11, like, we're on an economic downturn, like, things were obviously 9-11 was a paradigm shift, but, like, you know, there's something interesting about the idea We were, like, riding the highest we've ever been. Now we're heading to the lowest we've ever been. And it was, like, almost overnight. It was, like, one week.

Well, to be fair, I mean, like, look, see, in 06, 07, oh, like, before the 08 crash, you know, people were able to, like, refinance their houses. And, like, there was tons of, like, opportunity. Like, the wealth was shared on that. And, like, there was tons of people, like, you know, builders, contractors. Everyone's getting refis, people buying, you know, and, you know, and, like, there was tons of people buying, you know, using that money to like do where that you know go on vacation in addition to you know whatever in this one it's purely it really was just a pure stock inflation boom it really wasn't the economy was completely fucked but a lot of people were holding I mean ever since I don't know

the veracity of all this but they've been saying since since the 08 crash like most of these people you know are holding two or three jobs for the job they had before you I mean they didn't make the same amount of money we know that you know that you know know that. Economists know that. People that follow things know that. I'm talking about like on Main Street, just the attitude that like things were so good.

Not for everyone. And I don't, you know, obviously there's no health care and they're rotted out, but it was never anything. You know what I mean? Like, there was never any of that. So like, just cash on hand. You work a shift at a restaurant.

You walk out with 300 bones. like that coming to zero like the job they don't exist like jobs literally vaporize like they don't exist anymore like oh you worked in a resort it doesn't exist you worked on a cruise line it's criminal now like it's just oh just from the highest like from just things are good to things are it's like beyond bad they're like over and no one knows when they're going back to happen It's just a weird psychological. Like I talk to people that still feel kind of in shock. Like people feel, like people have this weird attitude

where they're like kind of like what happened. It's like you really just got stunned. Like you fell off your bike, you got hit, you don't know what I was. People still aren't processing what's happened. Well, look, I'm a relatively informed. I don't read the news as much as I should per se. But I'm a reasonably informed guy. People don't think I'm an idiot.

And even up until, like, a week or two before, I knew about the virus. I just heard about it. I skim some articles. But, you know, we, I was on the podcast saying, like, look, I'm not, like, telling people not to worry, but, like, stop panicking. And, you know, I'm never going to, you know, I'll be getting murdered. Lucy will be fucking, you know, be shot in front of me. I'm like, don't panic. It's going to be fine.

I just, I don't like to panic, per se. But it really, it came out of nowhere, even if you kind of were looking at it. I mean, maybe, I don't know if it should have. Of course, dude. I mean, of course it did. I just love the idea of you still trying to order, like, food from a wet market in China and have a ship. Like, listen, I don't, I have a lifestyle. I want Angolin and I want it delivered.

People die the flu every year. Don't just don't get me that shit. I mean, it's just like overnight we're in this weird situation where I'm like, I don't know. You know, here's what's funny about this whole situation. And I mean, I don't know that it's funny because it's, it's. the end of the world but it is kind of funny like you're just in this

like we still have Instagram we still have Twitter we still have social media we still have you know but you're starting to realize now that like at least I'm kind of starting to realize it like oh you didn't really need people right and like you

you don't need any of these like you can make money if you're in the business I mean this is very few people are in this position but I'm like I don't need any like I didn't need a manager I didn't need an agent I didn't need all of these people I didn't I can kind of just go online and share my thoughts and if they're funny enough people will buy them or or pay to hear more of them and I do I only need one producer I don't need a studio my studio is in my house I don't need like it simplified everything and I think like a lot of people are like yeah maybe maybe there's a lot of companies that are like we don't need these massive office spaces we don't need these massive office space and we don't need a lot of We can scale down. We can downsize. I think, I'm like, I don't need to fly every weekend and do stand-up comedy. Like, I love stand-up comedy.

But, like, I'm killing myself flying every fucking weekend and do stand-up comedy. It's ridiculous. Like, I can just kind of simplify and pare down. And I mean, that's a luxury position to be 100%. But I wonder how many people are having that thought where they're like, yeah, I don't need, how many friends do you, let's be honest? How many friends do you really miss? I mean, I only have, like, two friends, and I barely see them.

Well, this is what I mean. It's like, you don't miss a lot of, dude, you don't miss a lot of people. That's what's interesting. No, look, I mean- You miss the freedom to, like, go out and go places. You don't miss a lot of people. People say that human beings are social animals, but I've never thought so. I've never felt that myself.

I never, I mean, look, there is a thing, though. I do remember, like, when I was in my, like, you know, early 20s, I guess part of it's living with your parents, you know, because, like, I couldn't stay home. I wanted to get out. Now, like, the young people disgust me. If I, you know, a restaurant packed with young people or a theater packed with young people, way before this. I mean, now it's just, you know, you're thinking about, like, you see, you hear everyone coughing and freaking out if it was even, but like, I just could, I can't stand joy. Young people's joy, I find, I find aggressive.

So, you know, I just. Well, it's ending, which I lie. Like, it's also, listen, it's the result of growing up in a boom, growing up with money, growing up where everybody around you is, is, is, in many cases. even the people that aren't doing well are able to get by. It's coming of age during the Obama administration where there wasn't a ton of political turmoil. And now, you know, now seeing Trump, a lot of these kids have, like, you know, turned off or whatever, you know, they're like, because now it is politically turmoil. A lot of the people, a lot of the young people that we know came up in this period of prosperity and relative, like the country wasn't at war within itself. you know, people weren't as, I mean, you know, those tea parties and those people in Long Island

that were dressed up like Thomas Jefferson, but nobody paid attention to them or should have. And at the end of the day, it's like, now these kids are kind of, a lot of them are better prepared to handle this than I would have imagined because they've grown up digitally. They've grown up on the internet. They don't really need human interaction. That's, you know, a bonus to them. And a lot of them are figuring out how to make money on. online they certainly take all their classes online having a job online isn't like a freaky thing to them like this is all you know part of how a lot of that generation is going to work sure it's going to be just exclusively digital i mean the corporations are going to want

to push it just because like i think i think they're afraid like you know media is probably afraid because they don't want to be they don't want their content to look like everyone else's you know because in a few months we're all going to be making content and like the only that they have, you know, is to have, like, higher production value and have these stars. Because, like, if they, you know, if we all just end up working from home and, like, scaling everything down, which, like, yeah, I'm working from home at the moment. And, like, the content's all scaled down. It's like, you know, then they, the last, you know, people who don't want a democratic revolution of, like, media, for instance, is the big media. They're the ones

who have an interest in keeping it, you know, condensed in the hands of a few. But, yeah, I don't know. These, these young kids, uh, they, they close. I mean, look, you'll hear everything on Twitter, so you can't focus too much. But, like, they do love to claim, though, hey, you know, we were born in the middle of 9-11, and then, you know, we, you know, we went to college in the financial crisis, and now, you know,

as soon as we have a job or fucking this. Everyone loves to fetishize the, you know, how, like, how their victimhood and how, you know, gloom they are. But, I don't know, at the same time, you had these kids just kind of they were the kind of lax a lax vibe I mean you had the minority that were going for Bernie

and good for them I guess you know they wanted to health care but you know they love to pretend like this is assault on the boomers for instance it just kind of feels they love to I mean I guess it's a legitimate victimhood I mean this is a legitimate crisis so it's hard to

take a shit on them now but you know they're probably loving this is my point they're going to fetishize this for years yeah I mean it's hard to say it's so hard to make any predictions because nobody knows where this will go you know and this you know really every system every red light on every system is blinking red everybody's using I mean people using words like depression it certainly seems like an economic death spiral sure but it doesn't feel like one yet like it doesn't feel hopeful yet because we're only a few weeks in. There's hope. We're also heading into the summer. There's something that feels even more hopeful just about the summer than if this was

happening in September and we're heading into a long winter. And whether that's true or not, I'm sure it's purely just in our heads, but there's something about us that we associate the summer with freedom. And, you know, and that's going to fuck us up. I think when we get to the summer and nothing's changed. Especially if a lot of people don't have air conditioning and now they're stuck inside. I mean, you know, it's going to be a real pressure cooker.

It's going to be like that. That's why I think we need to end this quarantine today, today. End it today. There should be a million people in Central Park right now. What if there was a million people in Central Park right now? Dancing and doing staying alive. Staying alive, staying alive. Ha, ha, ha, staying alive.

I mean, everyone wants to flatten the curve. But, I mean, what if we just kind of, like, juke the curve up? And so, like, everyone gets sick at once. Well, curb needs to be, we need to, there needs to be hurt immunity. It's going to happen in two weeks. And what you should be doing, you shouldn't be feeding nurses. You should be throwing, you should be just putting out Italian dinners in the middle of the street, inviting strangers, like a big family-style meal and get everyone together eating out of a communal bowl.

I mean, you know, I got to be honest with you, these hospitals don't know this is coming yet, but I'm sending a bill for that food. Are you going to mark it up? You're going to make a profit? What if I sent a bill for the food? What if I sent a bill to the hospital for the food? Dude, this should... You should be on your podcast every week

going after them like your fucking... Like Lenny Bruce just like talking about the cops on stage. Just like reading invoices on stage. Yeah, I'm like... I'm like, and I just call the guy. I start yelling. I'm like, what the fuck did you think this was? I did you a favor.

You beat your shit. I fucking got that food delivered. You thought I was going to fucking pay for all of it. Hey, we're all suffering here. What the fuck's wrong with you? I'll take you to small claims court. Oh, the fucker. I mean, the court is still running, right?

It'll be amazing if I did that, you know? I mean, honestly, look, the rule of law can't break down in addition to, you know, everything else. We have to kind of maintain some civility. You know, so, like, you know, These hospitals have had too good for too long. These doctors have had too good for too long. You know, someone's got to hold them to account.

It's like, guys, what do you fucking think is going to fucking happen here? You know? You guys fucking think I'm going to fucking pay you away? How much are you fucking make it? You make no fucking money in there. You're fucking me? Like I said, scream, I'm like, you're fucking me? I mean, it would just be really phenomenal.

Let's be honest. I'll, I'll pay the filing fees if you do that. Let's do it. Let's go to Legal Zoom. Let's get fucking, Barry, is he so alive? Who was the guy who's, like, promoting legal?

He was one of the dream teams, OJ's guys. Who's Robert Shapiro? Yeah, I just know what it is, ma'am. I just don't want to be taking advantage of. Do you, did you see that story in the, I think it was a woman who went

from D.C. to Boston on a plane to go visit her dying mother for the day. And she was the only one in the plane. and like they start and she was like taking these selfies with the it was like it was supposed to be like his heartwarming story

where like the oh the pilots just made announcements just for her and the and the flight hadn't spent the whole flight listening to stories about her mother and all the stuff

and she's about to go there for the die first of all self it's very sad that your mother's dying but it's incredibly selfish to go into a like she's I don't want to stay there

for a day because it's a hotbed so it seems to me kind of selfish You're going into a hotbed Then coming right back And then like Which is very sad Your mother's dying

But I mean A lot of people's mothers are dying But also like Is this the new economy Like These these flight attends Have a bed Now you have to like

You have to like This is the new personalized vacation You go and just recount You talk about your dying mother For an hour and a half On a flight It just seems grotesque to me

I don't know These heartwarming stories Never work yeah it's also like what are we going to take her word for it it's going to get fucked you know what I mean like we're going to take her word for it

oh yeah my mother's dead my mother's trying to COVID you didn't hear of it like you know listen we spent a lot of years talking about the hustlers and the scammers wait wait like making a castorall

what's that noise I'm trying to find a fucking pan to fucking I guess I could just put that. I just bought a frozen pizza. I'm just going to put it in the fucking oven as you is. I don't need to put it on a sheet. No, put it on the grill.

Yeah, it'll be better. It'll get crisper. You know, it's like, you know, all I've tried to do through this whole thing is help people be a hero. And, you know, I didn't even ask me to participate in like that, you know, that bullshit, like, you know, that bullshit, like, you know, all these fucking billionaires. Like, you know, I mean, it's like, you know, I mean, it's a lot. Live aid, comics, you know, get AIDS or whatever it is. It's like... Cam Neely Foundation.

It's like, what is my manager doing? Like, what are you doing if you can't get me on this fucking live a thing, you dumb fuck? It's atrocious. It really is. Well, the problem, I mean, part of the problem, I mean, do they have, like, Sylvester Stallone on there for some reason? Like, everyone's home? I don't know. But I can be on, like, hour four, which is like nobody.

It's like, get me on hour four of that goddamn thing. I mean, it's like, what do I have to do? you know i told you years ago you should made me you should made me your manager but you didn't listen i would have gotten you on that you know you weren't wrong and i was i'm i really want to fire my manager he's like i yeah it's coronavirus so that of course i can't fire him but he has coronavirus by the way he doesn't even have it and he's lying he doesn't even know what the symptoms are my stomach hurts my scroats stretch i have a scratchy throat i'm like neither one of them are it or whatever i'm like i can't fire him even though he has pretend coronavirus it's just

so funny he's like yeah i upset stomach my throat is scratchy i'm like yeah that's not the coronavirus at all, but I have allergies, you're fucking idiot. Yeah, it's nothing. It's fake. He just didn't even Google the sentence. Right. You know, but it's just, dude, I just, I'm just fucking so happy to just

like, listen, we're, everybody's going to emerge from this changed in some way, you know? And the way that I'm going to emerge from the change is I'm just going to be like, listen, I never want to have a studio that's not in my house. That's what I've decided. I always want to have a

where I live to do my podcast and I'm going to go on the road when I want like a few weeks every three months and that's it yeah everything else is fucking done everyone's go fuck himself I don't care I'll do spots at the comedy clubs it'll have me if they're open and other than that I truly don't give a shit I mean I don't give a fuck you know it's like I mean the entire apparatus of comedy it's like a holdover of a distant time it right Look, I hope, and not, you know, a malice, but just have efficiency. I hope that a lot of this, if it comes back, it comes back, like, a lot of these, these hangarons and these fucking people who should have been out of this fucking system 15 years ago,

just go, go do something productive with your life. There's so many, like, just kind of, like, adjacent people who, like, have found a way to kind of ingratiate themselves into a system that, like, doesn't need them at all. I mean, and with the whole digital revolution, the whole podcasting and now you can just kind of and Twitter you can cultivate your own audience you don't need look I'm not talking about like the actual I mean some of the clubs sure but a lot of these fucking like you know these shittier clubs and he's shitty your fucking and these shudder's and these bookers and he's like you know these fucking people who book these independent shows

and these prima donnas it's just I mean of course a lot of old people are going to die a lot of young people are going to die but the one silver lining is maybe this whole thing will get streamlined a little bit yeah it's going to be I don't mean it needed to. It needed to. I bet a lot of businesses needed to. There was a lot of extra, and this is a correction, and it's going to be brutal, and hopefully the government can alleviate some of that pain or whatever. Do you think this is finally, I mean, I'm sure either way to death now, because, I mean, real estate in New York, it never really dipped high-end real estate, never dipped really since, even in the 08 crash, it didn't really

dip, right? Yeah, yeah, it never did. It never did, but that's specific. Basically because domestic money was replaced with foreign money. Sure. But there's a real, like, it's not Manhattan, you know, because people talk about that statistic and it's like, it's not Manhattan's magic. It's just that they just replace the source of money. Right.

But because to your point, you were saying, you know, and I think you're right, it will be a lot of people who will work from home going forward. They'll realize, you know, but will that affect real estate in New York? Because you're the people who are buying it, like these foreign people aren't usually buying,

like these high-end luxury condos, and stuff a lot of the time, right? So you think that that would take a dip? Well, I think two things are going to affect real estate in New York outside of the pandemic, which is quite obvious. And, like, you know, when we, you know, number one is that there are going to be a percentage of people, and I don't know who, but they're going to leave New York now. I mean, it's just what's going to happen.

They're going to leave. I have a friend of the realtor in New York. She said, people are ready going to her quietly and going to put me on the market, get me out of here. I'll take a loss. I just don't want to hold anything right. I want out. they want out there are people that are holding their apartments and they realize they're not going to be able to sell them at any type of profit for years you know years 24 months minimum but then there are people that are like I will take a loss I just don't want to carry the cost of having this apartment I want out I want to be liquid right now for whatever's coming and I need to cash out even at a great loss so a lot of people are just going to get the fuck out that's the first thing so there's going to be inventory and like price for

are going to fall, this, that, and the other thing. And I think the second thing that's going to affect real estate, specifically in New York, and specifically in Manhattan is, like, how deep is the cut of, you know, the financial turmoil specific to specifically commercial real estate, like commercial real estate? because the commercial real estate market is going to get hit by this, and it depends how hard that gets hit. Like, do you see a commercial real estate crash similar to a subprime mortgage crisis? Like, do you see that, which is very possible that you see massive defaults on commercial real estate?

And that will affect real estate, New York, you know, commercial, residential, everything, just if you end up seeing a crisis similar to the 08 crisis, but in the, in the, commercial real estate. We're like people who are beyond fucked. We've got to walk away and there's a mass defaults and bank failures and shit like that. But New York City is in trouble. Do you think? I mean, the fact that, look, of course, the value of commercial real estate is also extremely high in New York.

And a lot of people that are listening to the show know that I am a real estate developer. Sure. And I'm and I, and me and you both run Thor Xx, which is a hedge fund. And we're doing quite well. We're involved in a lot of pandemic adjacent. We always do well. That's what we tell our clients. Mostly because, as I tell them, the stocks are fake.

Yeah, listen, four equities we've got, we, we say, hey, just get it done. That's our, you know. What were you saying before I cut you off? Yeah, well, like, because the thing is with commercial real estate, I'm not saying that it's not going to take a huge haircut or just, you know, massive, you know, but there wasn't really like a bubble the same way there was in like the lead up to

the 08 crash you know so I wonder like it might just kind of be more like the new status quo like almost like a Detroit where um it just kind of starts to rock here's here's what it comes down to um what are businesses

you know how soon do people start spending money in commercial businesses again And that becomes the major issue. And are there rent freezes in the meantime for commercial businesses? Right. I can't imagine that, you know, you're not going to see a significant – I mean, right now, nobody's spending money commercial.

Now, we know that's not going to last forever. But even when these things reopen, what percentage of their business do they retain? And is there any debt forgiveness on the other end? Because if there's no forgiveness of debt, if there's no rent-freeze for these commercial establishments, you know, they're done, you know? And it depends on, you know, the larger corporations will swallow the smaller ones up. But like, you know, and I was reading an article about that the other day where it's like there were problems before, you know, everybody's been talking about the commercial real estate crash that never came. Right. This is since the way.

Everybody's been writing about it, the death of malls, the death. the brick and mortar retail stores you saw a transition from like you know we always joke around about these shitty like a pop-up stores and these experiences and like you know we're you know all of these like the cereal store and it's all this bullshit

which like you know what I mean like they're packaging nostalgia and it's like it's not enough it's not just a store it's here's a DJ and you know I'll jerk you on it's like a whole thing and a lot of that came like somehow replace but it never materialized

like people still wanted to go out even though Amazon was taking a large swath like people still wanted to leave their home they want to go to the M&M store they want the shop right well they still wanted the shop right a lot of it was tourism a lot of it was tourism by the way which is now dead yeah but it's been the thing that everybody's talked about forever and now it just seems like the logical culmination of every trend that everyone imagines plus a stay-at-home order I mean there's a stop work order where you know consumption's dropped completely and now it's just like how to these businesses come back I mean unless and you would think open up you would think that it would like oh well it's the you know e-commerce is so big but it means you know the years leading up to this amazon just gobbled up so much of the marketplace and then probably you know Walmart and target and a few other places like or a distant second but like you know because when the internet was e-commerce not quite the internet but you know when e-commerce became a big thing and like you know it's during a tech boom in the 90s and early 2000

there were tons of stores he would go to like different weird little websites uh i went to college of a guy who was like a millionaire he was like 18 because he made his like DVD website and i went to it it was a complete garbage website but i mean people he like his things were like a dollar cheaper than everyone else and like you were able to do that and then like you know amazon what are you are you fucking like working a goddamn steam engine what they're making a pizza okay What kind of pizza is the pepper roll? No, I'm hearing rings and bells and fucking. It sounds like you're working at the richable.

Listen, it's sound effects, and you're not being charged, actually. The fucking, Jimmy Fallon, you know, they broadcasts at the night show with like a horrible resolution. It's like your listeners can handle the ringing of a bell. I appreciate. I appreciate you being here. But, no, but it's just like you don't even have that saving grace. Yeah, some people are making money on eBay. And they're giving shit to these guys who are price gouging on eBay.

It's a little distasteful, but I was able to buy flour. I spent $30 on a 10-pound bag of flour, which is an exorbitant price, I guess. I've never bought flour before, but we want to make some bread, make some tortilla wraps. And, you know, and people, look, gouging is distasteful, and sometimes it's gross. And, like, you know, in a crisis,

if you're gouging medicine, sure. But, I mean, there's a logic for it. But, you know, the reality is, if this guy couldn't have made a huge profit by selling me some fucking flour, I wouldn't there wouldn't there's no flower in the store I can't get it so it's like you know I mean the only people who are at besides Amazon are making money on this shit is fucking you know price guys it was like you know Purell in there in their in their basement and you know

it's like I don't hate on nobody's hustle right I don't hate on nobody's hustle no I think if you got a vaccine sell that shit yeah know what I mean sell a fake vaccine and you well that's what I mean I don't mean a real I mean like if you got something that you think is kept you safe from the Rona sell that shit Alex Jones loves to talk about that silver spray Oh yeah And like I think

The FBI went after him right Yeah You better cut this shit out We're not giving Meanwhile Meanwhile they're giving Rush Limbaugh The Medal of Freedom I can go in after this guy

Right Right Rush Limba the medal of Vita man for Rush Limba said the whole thing was fake Yeah Yeah Rush Limba was like yeah This whole crisis is fake And he's getting the medal of freedom

That is hilarious I mean, it's also, it really, like, look, like, he got that unless the month later we're in the middle of that. I mean, it really was a bad to open. Oh, yeah. It's just so perfect, you know? Rush Limbaugh Medal of Freedom. You were a big Rush fan back in the day, right?

You used to love Rush, right? I mean, again, what do you say? You used to love Rush, right? You were a big Rush guy back in the, you know, I don't listen to him. I mean, I just don't listen anymore because it's like, you know, it's one of those things where, like, you've got, there's certain ways you listen to certain things, right? Yeah. Like, you rush Limbaugh, you have to be in Long Island, you have to be in a gas-causing

SUV, you have to be on drugs, and you have to be selling something. Like, you did, it happens to me. When you take away even one of those elements, it's not nearly a song, you know? Like, you can't, it just doesn't work. You need to have those elements. But I used to listen to him because he was like, he was very funny, and he was amazing that he could go for three hours. Yeah.

he was a goddamn pro you got to hand with him on that um i mean it was better when he was wrong like the show was better when he knew he was wrong i mean just the idea i mean it's atrocious everyone brings it up like that whole thing with the health care he's like this girl wants birth control what kind of horror is she i got paid for her to be a whore i mean the leap you have to make it's impressive it's gross but it's impressive i love when he told people after his first heart attack he's like i paid all my own bills in there he wouldn't help people out because then people would be like, oh, I don't have that kind of money.

He's like, if you refuse, he's like, I'm not going to make it political by telling you how much I spent. He clearly spent $400,000 in the money, you know. Yeah, but he only spent that because he didn't want, like, if he did use health insurance, you know, he wanted to like the, they flew some doctor in probably from fucking D.C. or wherever,

you know, he, yeah. It's not exactly. He wanted to survive. Yeah, he's not exactly. a move a move in solidarity with the workers no no solidarity with the workers

what do you yeah what do you make moving on a bit what do you make this uh this hospital boat I mean people for a moment I've talked a lot about this hospital boat um I've stoked a lot of fear with the hot I've said that you know it's probably going to mow people down it's gonna be

it's gonna bulldoze obviously I'm joking someone a train engineer near you in the Port of Los Angeles, where we were about a month ago. We took a trip over there. And this is not some, like, Yahoo homeless guy. He's a guy who apparently is driving the train. He thought the hospital boat was like some kind of invasion ship.

And, uh, or it's a, you know, maybe he's a Q guy. I don't know. But he tried to do a high speed derail into the hospital boat in, in L.A., which I find, uh, yeah, yeah, and that's scary. But it's also like, you know, one of these elite people think was going to happen when, like, He just fed everyone garbage and drugs for years and then lied to everyone just enough so that everyone would develop, you know, somewhat understandable deep wells of paranoia and then take everyone's money.

It's like, yeah, you're going to, yeah, like, yeah, you have a population out of paranoid schizophrenics who've been running on cheap credit and sugar for their entire lives, and now they don't have any money, and now they're like trying to fight a war with you and they don't even know how so they're trying to derail trains and shit I mean it's gonna get crazy I mean do you think it's gonna be the fucking Turner Diaries

I know there's a myth of American not just not just exceptionalism but of like oh we're uh self-sufficient and uh and we don't and we don't panic we don't we don't we don't scare easy but uh which you know I'm sure like any network news

would prove otherwise you know in the ratings but uh do you think 9-11 was the kind of the real big ching in the armor for like because like that that that that that fetishize fear for a lot for a huge part of the population that that kind of like the government kind of created a culture of fear with with like you know not just the attacks themselves

but you know the years and you know following you know the yeah oh today's a yellow alert and tomorrow's a green one we got reports of a cell and upstate New York and all this shit do you think uh do you think they that kind of like was a big part of what led to this kind of like QAnon type conspiracy culture in recent years

hello do we lose Tim hello yeah yeah yeah the the Q-in-on-on thing is a manipulation so that is that somebody whoever it is has taken nuggets of truth

and weave them into a narrative and I don't know who's responsible I don't know if it's trolls I don't know if it's people in Trump an administration like this? I don't know who it is. On gut level, I mean, you can't, you don't know for sure, but on gut level, do you think it's someone like fucking around in the administration? Very possibly. Yeah. I mean, very positive. I mean, I have no idea, but so at the end of the day, it's like Q and I've kind of something different. It's like

a whole different thing. Like, what, what that is, I mean, like, the culture of fear and paranoia, we've always had in this country, and for good reason, because we are being lied to. Like, you know gutterily you're being lied to here. You just don't know how and why. Like, you don't know how and why, but you know it's all bullshit. You just know it is. You just instinctively know it's fake. And you just don't know how. So, like, anyone that just kind of weaponizes that very defensible instinct that you have, because you're like, you know, again, the amount of coincidences you just have to ignore, you know, Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, like all of these things that just have happened,

you know, Iran contra, this, that. You have to ignore all of that, and you just have to go, you know, the amount of shrugging you have to do to believe that you're being held with honesty in this country is, I mean, your shoulders would break. So, but then you get to a point with Q&O, which is interesting, where somebody goes, let me take nuggets and kernels of all that, and let me convince people. It's almost like, how could it not be somebody in the administration or with some type of vested interest in people loving President Trump? Because what Q&N is, and I also think there might be institutional religious people get involved because really it's just a

remarketing. It's a reprimanded Christianity. These people are evil. We're good. You know, I think it will eventually leads people back to, you know, putting money in the coffers of, like, corrupt ministers and stuff. But, like, yeah, I don't know that just a troll would have such an investment

in propping up Trump because this is what this ultimately seeks to do. It tells people that Trump is the only person in the world that is fighting against his cabal of rich powerful pedophiles so it's like it's either a foreign country doing it or it's a bunch of trolls doing it but yeah because anything's possible but the idea that like someone who isn't buying into

Trump because Trump's whole thing is just it's the massive huckster you know nonsense it's all like I mean just just just the the blatant like um it's not even plausible to lying so like you know someone someone who's that like you know you it's not like you have like it's not like Trump is bad with the Bush administration you had like Halliburton and Neocons and his hunting with a C-PAC

or the project of a New American Century Pinnac or whatever you had like vested interest and shit but like with this it's like the idea that it would be a troll like why would they love Trump because they like the apprentice you know what would be there maybe it's a long game

troll by a foreign entity going when none of this shit happens when the storm never comes maybe a certain percentage of people pick up got you know? I mean, yeah. That's the other thing. That's possible.

Do you think, look, I don't buy, when we talk about like satanic pedophiles, which are a thing, and it's overblown, the satanic element of it. But there is a certain level of Satanism. And yeah, it is. Yeah. And like, all that shit. Yeah. Yeah.

I almost wonder, there's such a lack of rhyme or reason to any of it. Like, like, Rumsfeld made sense, at least. You know, and fucking, and the, what's his name, Cheney made sense. The whole day, the Iraq war was like, you know, a big work, but it may, you saw why you were doing it. This almost kind of feels like it's some power of like getting the people into a state of

just complete chaotic frenzy. It's almost like an occult, a massive occult ritual, the early stages of it. What do you think of that? Well, I do think there's always been, I do think there's always been some interest in, you know, trying to manipulate people's minds, right?

And, you know, that, you know, manifests itself in several different ways, but I think if you look at like the onset of like the 60s, the drug use, the LSD, the Colts, and the way the CIA kind of used all these things and worked with a lot of these people, whether it's the finders or, you know, whoever, I think a lot of it was in the beginning. It was experimentation and treating human beings like guinea pigs and thinking about how you could terrify them and how far you could stretch there. You know, mind, could you totally destroy them and build them back up?

You know. Yeah, no, for sure. People are in the weird shit. I mean, that's the thing. This has gone around, like, the Marquis de Saad. Like, people have been in a sadistic, you know. The emperors of Rome, I think it was Nero. You should just go out and attack people on the street.

I mean, these were, you know, like, these were people that were. I mean, apparently Tiberia supposedly was fucking infants in the mouth. I mean, you know, that's what you. I mean, I used to read a lot of Roman history. There's a problem is, like, even back then, the guy who wrote that was a guy called Tassiz. this who wrote was cold. You're sitting in that, you're sitting in the COVID yard.

You're saying, I'm very, and they're like, can you shut your mouth? People are sick here. They're like, I don't have COVID. I'm telling you right now I don't have it.

But I just say, you're just talking about all this shit. I mean, the ruling class has only got a predulation for incredibly, you know, dark and twisted shit. Well,

the problem is they need, they look, you can't work your whole life or have your dad work his whole life and leave it to you for nothing you need I mean it sounds terrible but you need to have a perk and like and the more permissive society gets I mean you know you got to start looking like you need to be able to do something that no one else is allowed to do I guess

that's part of it I guess it's part of it I mean I think it's been going on forever though so I think maybe it's more innate like we're just there's something in our species maybe I don't think it's exclusive to rich people either but I think a certain percentage of rich people are just pedophiles and or sociopaths yeah and they're able to control it and conceal it, and, like, they're able to facilitate it. And, I mean, you know, it's hard to say, you know, but, you know, there are occult people.

I think it's dark that the people realize. My whole problem with Q is, like, like, the whole thing is just a broad brush of, like, everyone in Hollywood, it's not true. But if you said that, like, kind of failure was a massive problem, it's a way, even if you went as far as to say, it's part of the way that they arrange certain hierarchies,

and society and shit, I'd be like, yeah, probably with you on that in terms of like, when you look at the way that it's used to blackmail people, you know, but when you say that my, my break with you is that Donald Trump, who didn't care at all about these kids

for his entire life, when he was hanging out with Epstein, when he was, like, the guy had a modeling agency, like, why did he have a modeling agency? Because he respects women. Like, what are he doing? No, look, he clearly probably is a pedophile on some level. I mean, like, you have to... It's like a Imagine this is the only thing that I could compare it to.

Imagine there is a huge conspiracy against meat eaters and the abusive animals. And I come out and I'm like the vegan prince of freeing animals. And you go to my Instagram and Twitter and Facebook go, all this guy has done his entire life is eat me. What the fuck? like we're supposed to believe that like what happened what happened in his mind that made him and at least coincide at least W not that he like he was just a cokehead and a partier

but at least he had a fake come to Jesus moment like at least he pretended like he had like he found God Trump there's never been a narrative where Trump like all of a sudden like gave a shit about you know any of this if you explain to and on a Trump he'd go you know human trafficking's very bad big problem you know he wouldn't care

like I don't think he cares why the people support him it's very bad I've made a lot of money right it's a deep well of narcissism you know it's like and I'm a comic I get it sometimes you win the way you want to win on stage and sometimes it's an ugly

win like you pointed a guy in the crowd and go look at this fat fuck and everyone laughs you know it you know because I'm fat too I'd be like me and you man we'd be fat somewhere I never goes yeah that's true so and it's an ugly

win. You're like, I didn't want to win that way, but I couldn't win any other way. I think very much Trump is that type of guy where he goes, I don't care why they're voting for me. Like, they could be voting for me because they think I'm going to arrest Oprah. Good. Like, just put him in a, I don't, he doesn't. Someone says to him, they think you're going to arrest on Hank? He's like, oh, can we look into that? That might not be a bad idea. Yeah. Like, he'd be like, you know, he would, by the way, that's exactly what he'd say. He probably wouldn't even say, no. He'd be like, we're looking into a lot of things right now. we're handling a lot of you know it's just the perfect president for this stage of

America because you look at the diehard Trump fan to die hard people that truly believe in it and what it is you trace it back to a lot of it you trace it back to the disappearance of not only religion but of like community in this country social clubs people having any type of identity, people having any type of communal, like, outlets, like people just being lonely and alienate. And those are the guys that because their community now is Q&N. Or on the other side, their community is social justice. Like, they go to these online digital communities to replace what used to be a bowling league.

Bowling is now Q&O. You know what I mean? like the church, the local church, like in the town that I grew up in, the local Catholic church would throw festivals, they do all this bullshit, you know, all of that has been replaced by just rabid loyalty to Trump. And it's like, oh, this is what happens when you hollow communities out of anything that bonds them together, and you just have people that are alienated that don't even know who their neighbors are that feel alone.

Then they go online and they're like, well, I want a community. and then they quickly find these echo chambers of people that are charismatic. It's the same reason you have, you know, those Islamic fundamentalist preachers, if you watch them, fucking great. They're like, wow, this guy is, like, really good. Like, one of my favorites Islamic fundamentalist creatures is a guy in Brooklyn, and you watch him in his whole sermon, is his defense of taking first glass. He's like, it is nice to have nice things, yeah.

And everyone in the mosque is like, yeah, she's like, God wants you to have these good things, he's nice things. he's nice thing. And he was so funny and affable, you're like, oh, this is what we have. We just have alienated, lonely people that are, Donald Trump's the most successful of these narcissists, but they're everywhere, whether it's Gary Van der Chuck or where, like, people are taking you in because you don't have a family and you don't have friends anymore that you used to have friends that you would meet at the local bar.

You know, all of these shows, whether it's King of the Hill, family guy, the Simpsons, no one has four or five friends before that they go to the bar with like nobody even has that so people now are just so i think alienated that they're just they're they're they're it's a wide open market for people to just build cults i really should get into that game i mean you know we're starting here but uh yeah i mean you're too i'm trying but i like to make people laugh too much i can't like it's hard to me to be like so much of your life how you're gonna make money guys so much of it is i mean of the best guys if you take a step back is funny it's the most impressive thing about some of these guys is that they don't they don't break to laugh

they don't they don't start cracking up correct correct that's it dude that's why i couldn't really do it like the most you you just hit the nail on the head big time the greatest skill of a guy like gary vannier chuck is that he doesn't look at the camera go can you believe i'm fucking saying this shit can you believe i'm doing and saying what i like Can you believe I make a living like this? Like, I would respect the hell out of that guy who looked at the camera even once and went, fuck, guys, can you believe this? I mean, so much.

I mean, I remember in college, I read Dale Carnegie's how, like, you know, that famous how to make friends and influence people. And so much of it's like, you know, if you see it, you know, you're trying to sell us a guy something. Oh, you see as a fisherman, start telling him about fishing and then asking him, I don't know, it's weird, like the level of insincerity that goes along with, like, success in this country and it works

I mean but like I well not only but but the Dale Carnegie's in the world are the Dave Chappelle's compared to the Gary Vee like Dale Carnegie they were actually saying something like Bill Carnegie even in your even in what you just described was giving you some kind of

advice like look at the fishermen talk about fish I mean the generic horse shit that they pedal now whether it's Ty Lopez or Gary Vayner's they don't even break like Dale Carnegie or or who's the big sales guy, Zig Ziglar.

They at least were like, all right, let me walk you through a sale. You sit down, you look at the prospect, you ask the prospect of question, let him answer. He, there at least go to, dude, Gary Vaynerner, these guys are literally going out and going, crush it. I'm not, but to succeed in America, I'm saying is like, but to succeed in America, and he's right, you know, you kind of have to be this false person. Like, you have to, and like, because I would never, like, I would always, like, I look like, I see what you're saying, but I can't in the good conscience just, like, start, like, pretend. I also Fitch or whatever or start pretending to give a shit. And some of it's also just a fat slob. But here's the thing.

You are a person. I am a person. Most people are not people. I mean, most people don't have thoughts, ideas, values. Like I was trying to tell somebody the other day,

I'm like, I've never wanted to be at a music festival or in the green room with Drake. I like going to the Continental Club in Austin, Texas, where there's 40 people. It's a bar. I don't see and James McMurtry. I don't think I'm better than the people

that Arthur Drake thing It's just for me What's authentic To for me Is the McMurtry thing with 40 people In a bar in Austin, Texas Because it's like That's as close to the reality

Of what that guy is As you can get, right? I don't want to see him at Carnegie Hall I just Seeing him where he performs in Austin At midnight on Wednesday To me it's like that'll probably go And I've seen Bruce Springsteen at the Garden

I've seen amazing amazing thing. But it might be the best musical performance I've ever seen because it was the most real. It's the most authentic. There was no corporate sponsors. There was no tickets. I think you walked in, you paid $5 or $10.

Like, everyone was there to just hear music because they love the dude. And it was over. It was a two-hour show. It was fucking wild. You played so many songs. But that was it. There was no other element. There was no fashion. Everybody was dressed like shit. People were dancing, but they didn't know

how to dance. I mean, everything about it. Yeah. When I went to New Orleans, you go to Frenchman Street, not Bourbon Street, Frenchman Street. And like, every bar you walk into, you buy a beer, and you were hearing the greatest music I've heard in my life, the greatest live music, and it's just nameless people

doing stuff that blows your mind. And then, like, you know, it's just, it's a different world in, like, you know, the music and the entertainment, like, you know, and even what I normally consume. I'm not trying to be above it. It's like, oh, my God, it's like, it's like there's a level of manufacture

just slop that we all just kind of most of us kind of accept even if we know better you know it's just a yeah I mean it's just one of those things we're like I mean you look at TikTok TikTok TikTok is people lip syncing the movie quotes and songs of other people it's amazing they're building the following

lip syncing the words of other people it's like no even though yeah it was ruined ruined yeah ruined. These people have massive careers, their talent is being good-looking, and or lip-sicking. We've given up in this country in terms of art. We've given up across the board. So it's just kind of about how the end plays out. I mean, I don't know what art looks like in 50 years in this country, but I mean, outside of a few shows, the Americans, things like

that, it's pretty garbage. No, even TV, like the golden age of TV had been over for at least five years, six years, seven years. Yeah. We're in a steep decline. But we're a steep decline and it'll only be accelerated I think by you know what's happening now because in order to get people out now I mean

it's going to be like, I mean Broadway's done. They'll never be I didn't take you to see the ferryman, did I? No, I didn't see the fairerment. It's a shame. It was so great. I mean, we're never going to listen. It's going to be a dude. Broadway is now going to be like Cardi B does a musical about climate

it's going to be so bad she's going to be like the polar cops are melted that ain't fucking good it's going to be so bad that you because that's the only way they're going to get people out

those your cat does Hamlet I mean dude they're not you're not going to see an Arthur Miller play I mean I hope you are you're not going to see a view from the bridge you're not going to see

and dude that's fucking sad because like that's where we're headed and those are the only like you're just going to see this saccharin crap which is going to be celebrity infested and the celebrities are not going to know

how to sing or dance and they're just going to go on stage and people are going to buy tickets to be in a room with a celebrity and that's going to be the death now I mean that's kind of it's already the death now like Broadway is already

60% horseshit but then you'd have 40% of like okay death of a salesman the ferry men original musicals that are still kind of good it's ending and it's going to be

unless this turns around quickly, and unless they just start testing the vaccinations on the military and go, it's for your country, shut your mouth, which they probably should do. And there's articles saying they might start doing that, but they might just be like, hey, man, it's free of country. What? Yeah, they're just thinking about just testing the military. But do they even need to do that?

Like, I mean, I don't know much about clinical trials, but I didn't think they needed to, I thought by the time they start testing on people, it's pretty safe, right? Like, it's not like... I mean, I don't know. No, it's dark Do you think they cure this thing And then like I don't want to be stroking any fear here But like there's nothing to say that like

We can't have another Like next year or two years from now There won't be another virus Like if we're going to be any better prepared next thing It happens again I mean That's why I think this doesn't change That's why I think things don't ever go back to normal

In the way that they were I think there's I think I think you're going to look at fever detection is being huge. I think that biotech companies are going to pioneer

a lot of type of fever detection equipment technology. I don't think that I think it's very possible that to get into a concert or a large gathering of people you might have to go through some infrared thing. I think

that, yeah, I mean the only thing they'll save us now is technology and med science. And I I mean, that's all that'll save us. I mean, that's really it. I mean, listen, the best time to live in this country was from the 60s or 70s through, you know, two weeks ago. Sure. You know?

I mean, we should on boomers, but I mean, that was the best time to live in the world. We should on boomers, but I would have done what they did. I mean, I'm not any better than them. We only, we shoot on boomers because they just haven't left quietly. That's all. The whole thing with boomers is just, it's not even that you looted and burned everything down.

Just leave quietly, you know? you can't have moral authority it's like boomers are like if Ken Lay didn't kill himself I'm like she became some televangelious it's just shut off like that's my only real issue like I regret not traveling

I look at the world man I'm like I wish I'd done Italy and Paris on this bullshit but I dedicated my whole life to fucking telling jokes and nightclubs but it's like you look at it and you're like wow you know I can't believe that

You know, things are never going to, like, it's going to be, fuck, dude. Italy, you have Doja cat. You don't need Italy. It's good. Listen, that ain't wrong. You ain't wrong. I mean, do you think Italy's going to ever go back to being like, actually, like, when are we going to be able to go to Italy and get like a bowl of pasta and be like, hey? I mean, a couple of years.

Look, they'll vaccinate the fucking place. If we don't get another virus, which, like, to be fair, is it not, like, we went a lot of years about having one. And so it's probably fine. The thing about Italy is, like, they all live together, but, like, are they going to change that? I mean, part of it's like half that country is like, you know, the houses, not every house, of course, but, like, so much of that country is really old and old buildings and they value their old stuff. It's like, you know, you have to bulldoze so much of it to, like, you know, to make room for, like, you know, old people to live separately from their kids and stuff. I don't know. They all live on top of each other.

It's part of the charm. So it's like. Right. And they love, look. I mean, they have. they have a certain passion for life the way they live it. So they'll get beaten down, but I feel like they're arrogant enough.

They have a whole thing in Italy, apparently, which makes sense, but I didn't know. Like, I don't remember the word for it, but the governors have to be like, they're like kind of plead to not use, and there's a term for like cleverly circumventing rules. And it's part of their culture. It's not, you know, it's like just to kind of be outlaws,

to be, not outlaws per se, but, you know, to be kind of, to push back against you know any kind of you know authority so I mean we have that in America too yeah it's just it seemed more fun the way they put it though it seemed more like

you know like it was right so what do you say that's gonna help them or not I think they'll come out of it and not necessarily their spirit might not be broken as much I think you know I mean look they got bombed to shit during World War II and they're still pretty they have a lot of pride so I think they'll come out of it

I mean I just want to go to a nice Italian restaurant in Italy to be sure. You know, it's not fair to me. This is all not fair to me. I just want to go to Paris before it looked like fucking, you know, what's the capital of Saudi Arabia? I hate when I have to fucking think to be right.

Oh, yeah, Riyadh, Riyadh. Yeah, I just wanted to go to Paris before it was fucking, look at MECA, you know? Can I just go to France, you know? Yeah. You did too flay and not get bombed. I mean, I always say, I always come too late. Like I came to the morgue too late People are always telling me

You know You're at Henry Clay Kisinger Writing articles Like kind of prop up Globalism and everything He's like We need a world order That's just shut up

Fucking genocidal pig How is that guy still? He's the only one still pumping I fucking He's still Dude he is You're not kidding Dude he wants to look

About adrenicrom That guy's got He's got He's the only one still Go and he's still We'll wrap this up So what do you think Drives the guy

Like he was he 90 now I mean like what is he even I mean he's seen the world kind of decay and like all the moves I mean at that level so I think at that level it's a guy that like had such a huge influence for so long on the way the world

actually worked yeah and now I think it's you know his version now is just writing up that and stuff I'm sure he has a direct line that probably drop and probably people around him he's just like here's the accent but I mean like this multilateral world order bullshit thing that they tried to build

is falling apart very quickly trying to save face for history or for whatever like he's trying to be like yeah no guys which is good you know these super national organizations

are great that don't respect anybody's nationhood or you know no that's the way to do it and every global system should be some weird financial system that people barely understand

and it just benefits to ranch and you know that's the move it's such a thing it's such a move of whatever these people people are these globalists that like I mean for decades now and like it's not just a minority thing Kissinger is known for being

whatever he wasn't under Nixon and also as a war criminal like and it's such a huge prevalent thing and they and like every fucking you know generation with the Iraq war they brought him back with this they're like like why don't they just have him fucking take a curtain call and fucking bring someone else out I mean this guy

is tainted. But I think it also yeah I think you look at these guys it's just kind of like this whole thing whether it's globalism or not it's just people who want to control more territory, largest slots of the world. The same thing is the hill of the hunt. It's just, the export now is not, you know,

you know, it's put in a better package, but it's the same thing. It's just they want power. They want to own everything. They want to control everything. And that's why they hate Russia. I'm not saying Russia's good, or I'm not saying that as well as good or anything. But like, you just hate people that resist being in the system, you know?

And that's what it really truly is. And that's why, you You know, guys are kids who are still firing off our beds because you're like, you know, the system must be protected at all cost. That's really what these guys are invested in. It's the system. And it's the system, and that's why you need the skull and bone and all the feeder societies, bullshit, you know, whatever it is that, you know,

elevates people so that they all can be counted on to protect the system. That is what you're looking at. It's the system over anything else. It's barely the country. I think the country is a part of the system. America is just one of the ways to enforce the system. And the system is the most important thing. And that's why you see all of these, you know, elitists, they're groomed for the majority of their lives to be secret of private people that, you know, have a lot of dirt on each other and are, you know, enforcers of a certain code.

that's really all what it is. I mean, whether you talk about the predilection for sexual violence or the degradation of women or children and the way that that gets swept under the rug and protected and, like, all of it is just because those people, when they are called upon, hold up the system and enforces it in whatever capacity they can. Could be writing an op-ed, could be putting a bullet in someone's head, could be securing mining rights. It's whatever they can do from their vener could be just making a movie where they play a patriotic soldier because they get the narrative. It's like in whatever capacity you uphold the system that is gone. What a brilliant rant.

I should have done it on my show. Listen, I have to take a shower. Okay. Well, Tim, where can people find you? If they don't know by now, fuck them. No, I'm kidding. Fair enough. Tim Dillon's show.

Tim Dillon's show. And by the way, that's all that's all that's laugh. I will not be coming to a town near you. He's feeding doctors. He's speaking truth. Go listen to Tim Nillan. Tim, thanks so much for coming on the show. They're getting the bill.

They fucked me for the last time. I just want to call that Dr. tomorrow and go, are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm going to fucking pay for your meals? You mother filed. See you in court. What if I call the police on the ER doctor? and say that they stole my debit card.

All right, I'll talk to you later. Thanks so much, Tim. It was a great Tim Dillon. Well, that's just I'll do it for today. Thanks so much, everyone, for listening. You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Ray Kump. Go listen to Our Love is disgusting. Also, go sign up for the Kump Patreon.

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