Kump - 4 - I'll Fight All the High School Boys
Episode Date: January 24, 2019Ray continues his blackmail war against capitalism, addresses the MAGA-Kid vs. Native American thing, unpacks the Venezuelan crisis, and becomes an unlikely ally of the C.I.A. ...
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                                        The Conjuring Last Rites
                                         
                                        On September 5th
                                         
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                                        The conjuring, last rites.
                                         
                                        Only in theater, September 5th, where it are.
                                         
                                        Thank you for tuning in the comp.
                                         
                                        We have a new jingle or whatever.
                                         
                                        I made this song.
                                         
                                        This is me.
                                         
                                        I did this years ago.
                                         
                                        I repurposed it.
                                         
    
                                        No, don't anyone try and get me.
                                         
                                        sued by any
                                         
                                        about stealing this is mine
                                         
                                        don't worry about it
                                         
                                        it's just something I did back when I was trying
                                         
                                        to make electronic music
                                         
                                        that career didn't work out
                                         
                                        you know so now I'm here
                                         
    
                                        welcome
                                         
                                        if you have been listening
                                         
                                        to the previous episodes
                                         
                                        you've been privy to my
                                         
                                        assault on corporate America
                                         
                                        I'm trying to get sponsors
                                         
                                        but I'm not willing to just sit here and wait
                                         
                                        and growing audience and
                                         
    
                                        an organic way and have them have companies look at my you know download numbers and
                                         
                                        I got to prove to them that you know I'm a viable fuck that all right I know I can
                                         
                                        transfer whatever fans I got with listeners I got into cash right now and if I'm not going to see
                                         
                                        that we're going to you know propel the situation we're going to force the hand of corporate
                                         
                                        America uh last week I uh I adjusted my tactics to try and blackmail account I'm going to do a
                                         
                                        other one of those blackmail situations where i try to uh i'm just going to do an ad read for
                                         
                                        a company and uh if they if they don't like it they don't want me to do it um if when they take
                                         
                                        this down they got to pay up so it's a little more aggressive it's a little more puts the on
                                         
    
                                        them because before i was trying to do ad reads and then have them pay me now no now we're
                                         
                                        going to do uh at this don't i mean i'm not saying anything bad but you know do you want this out
                                         
                                        there because this week it's fage yogurt or is it faget faggay don't know i think they're
                                         
                                        icelandic maybe they're from detroit uh i like your yogurt i use a lot of your yogurt i eat
                                         
                                        the blueberry uh version i use the version with the honey uh sometimes i buy the honey cup
                                         
                                        uh that's you know you you tilt the cup towards the yogurt and it oozes out but that takes
                                         
                                        a while so i'll take a bear honey you know honey that comes in a bear jar but i'll just
                                         
                                        dump it out. I'll just dump out the bear
                                         
    
                                        honey onto a larger
                                         
                                        container of yogurt. It helps keep me regular.
                                         
                                        They don't advertise this as
                                         
                                        one of those shit yogurts. There's a lot
                                         
                                        of shit yogurts out there, or at least one of them.
                                         
                                        Was it activia?
                                         
                                        The activity of the shit yogurt? Who am I asked? I don't know producers anymore.
                                         
                                        I'm asking myself. I think it's activity
                                         
    
                                        was the shit yogurt.
                                         
                                        This isn't one of those. This isn't one of those. This is one
                                         
                                        Jamie Lee Curtis doesn't come out
                                         
                                        in Fajie commercials and say, hey, you could
                                         
                                        flip my leg back and I shit.
                                         
                                        just like the yogurt container does.
                                         
                                        If you've seen Fajie containers,
                                         
                                        you would understand that the thing that you flip
                                         
    
                                        and this is the sense of,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        I imagine if we had Jamie Lee Curtis on the Fajie team,
                                         
                                        we would have her do a little pirouette
                                         
                                        and then she would shit onto the floor
                                         
                                        or into her pants.
                                         
                                        She wouldn't be pantsless.
                                         
                                        That would be, you know,
                                         
    
                                        she's a respect.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to ask her to do that.
                                         
                                        That's disrespectful to ask a,
                                         
                                        I don't know if she's an Oscar-nominated actress
                                         
                                        or winner, but she's,
                                         
                                        she's, I mean,
                                         
                                        she's a woman. She deserves a respect
                                         
                                        regardless. And then on top of
                                         
    
                                        that, she's also, you know, a great actress.
                                         
                                        So it adds to the
                                         
                                        respect. Either way, I'm not going to ask a woman to
                                         
                                        shit onto the floor of a set
                                         
                                        of a TV commercial for a
                                         
                                        yogurt company. It's just
                                         
                                        that's not
                                         
                                        it's not
                                         
    
                                        me. In the Me Too era
                                         
                                        especially, you can't be doing that.
                                         
                                        And I've always been ahead
                                         
                                        of the curve anyway. But no,
                                         
                                        now you wouldn't. I'd expect to see that
                                         
                                        Maybe someone else doing that commercial in 1998, maybe 2005.
                                         
                                        I wouldn't be surprised if Danin made that commercial.
                                         
                                        I never would.
                                         
    
                                        But I would never ask a woman to shit onto a concrete floor of a studio and say, hey, buy our yogurt.
                                         
                                        You could have this happen.
                                         
                                        You wish you could shit like this?
                                         
                                        You know, this could be you.
                                         
                                        Imagine you and this woman having the same level of shit regularity.
                                         
                                        That's a possibility buy our yogurt.
                                         
                                        You know, it's just, it's all awaiting you buying this yogurt.
                                         
                                        taking the shit, eat it every day, you know, make it happen.
                                         
    
                                        That's not what I'm doing here.
                                         
                                        Where were we?
                                         
                                        Fajai, it's great yoga.
                                         
                                        It's not advertised that way, but it does keep me regular.
                                         
                                        Something to do with probiotics, you know, little microbes are going to your stomach and your gut,
                                         
                                        and they produce flora and fauna.
                                         
                                        So buy that yogurt.
                                         
                                        Buy Fajie yogurt.
                                         
    
                                        Now Fajay, if you don't like that ad, the amount of times they mention shit,
                                         
                                        And Jimmy Lee Curtis shitting onto a floor, do you think that's problematic for your company, your company's image, we can, you know, we can get rid of it.
                                         
                                        We can, we can undo, this is late stage capitalism, people, all right?
                                         
                                        People love to shit on capitalism and say that, you know, it only helps the, uh, the large company screw over the little guy.
                                         
                                        You know, you have to, in late stage, you have to take capitalism into your own hands, all right?
                                         
                                        You know, because the whole thing is they're not going to help you.
                                         
                                        they're going to help the government's out to help you know bowling and uh bell helicopter
                                         
                                        any of the defense companies you know companies that make socks they might get some help you're
                                         
    
                                        not getting help you got to do stuff like this on your own crowdsourcing your own money you can steal
                                         
                                        too i mean i don't know am i a public figure am i allowed to advocate stealing probably not
                                         
                                        if i get into trouble for that because i'm a public figure supposedly i don't i mean i'm not saying
                                         
                                        I am, but you know, I'm not to
                                         
                                        my own horn, but I think I still can't
                                         
                                        advocate you, like, you know, going to a Walmart
                                         
                                        and, like, throwing a rock through the window
                                         
                                        and, like, you know, taking
                                         
    
                                        shit yogurt out of there and like, yeah, I'm
                                         
                                        taking my shit yogurt. Fuck capitalism.
                                         
                                        I can't advocate that
                                         
                                        as much as I might want to.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm a fan of the free market,
                                         
                                        but, you know, if they don't
                                         
                                        do things to prevent you, if they treat
                                         
                                        you in such a way where you feel you need
                                         
    
                                        to steal their shit yogurt,
                                         
                                        I feel like that there is
                                         
                                        something you can do with the free market there and you know whatever so please faje send me
                                         
                                        money uh i'm not who you're sure if you that fadj is a parent company or is maybe they're owned
                                         
                                        by general mills or uh maybe they're owned by some companies people who make arm and hammer
                                         
                                        bacon soda maybe own them i don't know so i just you know pay the bills here we're trying to get
                                         
                                        studio or even just like a different mic uh maybe a new headphone whatever we we'll expand operations
                                         
                                        and we need to get financed.
                                         
    
                                        We might do a Patreon.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        We're going to see if we can shake down
                                         
                                        corporate America first.
                                         
                                        But in the meantime,
                                         
                                        well, that's what we're doing in the meantime.
                                         
                                        But, you know, we might do that later.
                                         
                                        We might do a Patreon.
                                         
    
                                        We can't get corporate America
                                         
                                        to pony up some money,
                                         
                                        which is probably likely.
                                         
                                        A lot of crazy things happen.
                                         
                                        All right, so over the weekend,
                                         
                                        I think the big story was this kid
                                         
                                        during the Right to Life March, right?
                                         
                                        The Right to Life March is a March they do every year.
                                         
    
                                        Anti-abortion.
                                         
                                        It all stems from the whole, you know,
                                         
                                        because if you're anti-abortion, you're pro-life,
                                         
                                        if you're pro-abortion, you're pro-choice,
                                         
                                        everything's a fucking, you know,
                                         
                                        we use these catch-all frame.
                                         
                                        I'm a life, I mean, this.
                                         
                                        It's, whatever, these kids are part of some Catholic high school,
                                         
    
                                        I guess, much like I didn't go to an old boys one,
                                         
                                        but I think theirs was an old boy.
                                         
                                        High School full of these pro-life kids.
                                         
                                        I mean, look, if you pulled them,
                                         
                                        they're probably pro-life until they fucking knock some woman up.
                                         
                                        Or the woman knocks them up.
                                         
                                        I'm not trying to be gendering here.
                                         
                                        But, you know, these kids, I've met these kids.
                                         
    
                                        I know these kids.
                                         
                                        I've been in speech classes with these kids
                                         
                                        at a Catholic high school,
                                         
                                        and they're making these cases like these speeches
                                         
                                        about how, like, you know, I was pro-life until I was having sex with my
                                         
                                        ugly girlfriend and I'm an
                                         
                                        these guy's ugly too
                                         
                                        I'm gonna make it fun of his ugly girlfriend but he was
                                         
    
                                        like this is his ugly couple and
                                         
                                        whatever and they were just talking
                                         
                                        he wanted to know he was having sex
                                         
                                        and he's like I got to start having sex
                                         
                                        and I realized he didn't have a pregnancy scare
                                         
                                        this ugly guy just was talking about like
                                         
                                        I realized I could get my girlfriend
                                         
                                        pregnant and oh maybe I'm wrong about abortion
                                         
    
                                        so not only are you just describing
                                         
                                        your disgusting sex acts
                                         
                                        you're you know you're the worst couple
                                         
                                        I've ever seen but you know now
                                         
                                        it's like you also have no integrity
                                         
                                        that's great
                                         
                                        I mean people can change their mind
                                         
                                        but like
                                         
    
                                        to use that in a speech class
                                         
                                        to use that as some kind of like
                                         
                                        you know this is one of those classes
                                         
                                        where you're trying to make a persuasive point
                                         
                                        and this kid's just like
                                         
                                        my ugly girlfriend I realized
                                         
                                        I can put a baby inside
                                         
                                        this can't stand
                                         
    
                                        this baby
                                         
                                        so you know it's one of these kids
                                         
                                        so these kids have
                                         
                                        I'm not going to make the case
                                         
                                        that these kids are like actually
                                         
                                        pro-life believers
                                         
                                        that just kind of you know 16
                                         
                                        they probably
                                         
    
                                        something I told them
                                         
                                        I come to the march instead of going to school for the day.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, yeah, sure.
                                         
                                        We're just, you know, rat-faced kids.
                                         
                                        What are we going to do?
                                         
                                        Fuck it.
                                         
                                        Probably, you know, the middle is probably grab a tit out there.
                                         
                                        Yeah, because they're just fucking horny kids.
                                         
    
                                        They're probably hoping there's just some fucking girls in the march
                                         
                                        that they can fucking tick grab.
                                         
                                        I don't know what they're into.
                                         
                                        And, like, you know, I don't, the big picture that comes on
                                         
                                        is this fucking kid facing an Indian, Native American, sorry,
                                         
                                        Dave American.
                                         
                                        And, uh, beating the drum in his face.
                                         
                                        and he's just staring him down
                                         
    
                                        and
                                         
                                        I guess
                                         
                                        supposedly they're mocking the Native American
                                         
                                        and there's some of them were
                                         
                                        some of them were jumping a little bit
                                         
                                        look the kid is very hateable
                                         
                                        I mean that's one thing people keep talking about
                                         
                                        this kid they want all this kid's so punchable
                                         
    
                                        this kid's disgusting
                                         
                                        and yeah look I see the kid
                                         
                                        initially you want to kick this kid in the face
                                         
                                        sure he's got a shit fucking grin
                                         
                                        he's just kind of got this rat face
                                         
                                        fucking
                                         
                                        mugness here's the thing i think all boys in high school are very punchable and i feel like i could
                                         
                                        take any of them um it might be a controversial point i mean the most athletic shape i'm not a train
                                         
    
                                        fighter but i feel like i mean i look something there's something about being a high school boy
                                         
                                        versus like a 20 25 to 28 when you hit your physical kind of prime and you just come like we
                                         
                                        took old man's strength back in the day
                                         
                                        I mean I feel like at this stage of my life
                                         
                                        I could take high school era LeBron James
                                         
                                        which I don't think is true in my head
                                         
                                        but I'm like I just can't see a high school kid
                                         
                                        I mean he's probably like six eight
                                         
    
                                        and you know at that point 225
                                         
                                        220 or muscle
                                         
                                        I mean look it doesn't seem realistic
                                         
                                        but I feel like I at least
                                         
                                        grapple the kid to the ground
                                         
                                        young LeBron I mean now
                                         
                                        I would not take current LeBron, of course.
                                         
                                        I'm not an idiot.
                                         
    
                                        But, you know, something about, or like a young, young Tom Brady, you know,
                                         
                                        or young, who is that tall pitcher that they called the big unit?
                                         
                                        Randy Johnson, I feel like I could take him in high school.
                                         
                                        Any boy in high school, I feel like I could take right now.
                                         
                                        I don't, I can never fear one of these kids.
                                         
                                        And initially, off the bat, even if we land on this kid is disrespecting a Native American
                                         
                                        and it's disgusting
                                         
                                        which is like I'm not against that
                                         
    
                                        you know analysis of it on the surface
                                         
                                        and I'm not trying to go too deep
                                         
                                        I'm not trying to be the knee jerk
                                         
                                        what about the real story here
                                         
                                        maybe he had a reason for being great
                                         
                                        no I'm just saying
                                         
                                        can we not pretend
                                         
                                        like he was intimidating this name
                                         
    
                                        this Native American guy
                                         
                                        I don't want to take away from this Native American
                                         
                                        this guy was a fucking
                                         
                                        he's a little older
                                         
                                        he's probably 50 60
                                         
                                        probably 60 I'd say
                                         
                                        I feel like he was smoked this kid
                                         
                                        so I don't want to hear this kid was like
                                         
    
                                        intimidating his native American.
                                         
                                        That's more disrespectful than anything else I'm going to hear is that some
                                         
                                        people are alleging he was like intimidated, he's grilling the Native American.
                                         
                                        You shouldn't be grilling him anyway, but let's not pretend like a Native American guy
                                         
                                        I was afraid of this fucking rat-faced 16-year-old kid, all right?
                                         
                                        He's not.
                                         
                                        This guy would wallop him.
                                         
                                        He'd fucking put him in a fucking, you know, chokehold, maybe give him, you know, give him a
                                         
    
                                        fucking sock in the nose.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry, I'm on a rolling chair in a little.
                                         
                                        office and it's just rolling everywhere this is not great trying to make a point here the point
                                         
                                        is no one's afraid of this kid so like you know look even the kid had a gun i feel like the
                                         
                                        american guy would have like a massage agent so you know whatever that's just one element of it
                                         
                                        but yeah the kid was shitty some people people like look at the footage your raw footage
                                         
                                        i watch the raw footage it's not totally clear it does seem like the these these black gentlemen
                                         
                                        they call the black Israelites, I think it was their
                                         
    
                                        official term, but it's the term
                                         
                                        the people are using.
                                         
                                        We're harassing the kids.
                                         
                                        I don't particularly blame them.
                                         
                                        These kids look harassable, but
                                         
                                        they're getting a little harassed.
                                         
                                        And I think the Native American guy
                                         
                                        supposedly got
                                         
    
                                        in the middle to sort of
                                         
                                        like just
                                         
                                        to kind of dissipate the
                                         
                                        tension between the two
                                         
                                        you know, these Christian
                                         
                                        abortion abolition
                                         
                                        this we want to call them and the black Israelites.
                                         
                                        And so, like, did the kids maybe not, you know,
                                         
    
                                        infiltrate the Native American side and start attacking it?
                                         
                                        Because there was a Native American march too.
                                         
                                        There's so many marches.
                                         
                                        It feels like, first of all,
                                         
                                        I don't know who the city planner is.
                                         
                                        Who's, like, planning all these.
                                         
                                        You have to give, like, permits to these marches, don't you?
                                         
                                        Maybe don't, like, stack them up right next to each other.
                                         
    
                                        I know the national malls in high demand,
                                         
                                        but, I mean, there's only so many days in a year.
                                         
                                        But maybe, I mean, maybe this could have been just, you know,
                                         
                                        better planned.
                                         
                                        I mean, I don't think anyone can just, I don't think any group can just randomly show up at the Washington, the Lincoln Memorial, and just start, you know, protest.
                                         
                                        I think you need to kind of apply for a permit or something.
                                         
                                        So maybe that's something we can look at.
                                         
                                        Here's the bigger picture.
                                         
    
                                        Who gives a shit?
                                         
                                        Like, no one's really asking that.
                                         
                                        I hear people making points and counter points about, like, well, you know the whole story about these kids and what did they do?
                                         
                                        And, like, you know, were they really?
                                         
                                        trying to be disrespectful. I mean, the kids, why is a kid wearing a maga hat?
                                         
                                        What does any of this actually matter?
                                         
                                        It's a 16-year-old rat-faced fucking kid wearing a maga hat
                                         
                                        at a fucking abortion, anti-abortioner.
                                         
    
                                        So he acted shitty?
                                         
                                        Who gives it?
                                         
                                        Even if he's like, even if he was saying the N-word, which is terrible, it's like,
                                         
                                        how is this part of a national conversation?
                                         
                                        Like, this guy, like, not everything is a symbol.
                                         
                                        Not everything is a relevant symbol to, like, our lives.
                                         
                                        Like, this is not something we need to fight over what this shitty kid did.
                                         
                                        And you could argue, well, he feels in this climate, this and that, you know, like, I mean, if you look at the, it doesn't look like they were going around targeting groups to do this in the, you know, this is something that happened.
                                         
    
                                        Some shitty kid made of a fucking stupid thing.
                                         
                                        Was he emboldened by the error of, uh, shitty kids are shitty kids, all right?
                                         
                                        I mean, you're going to get into situations
                                         
                                        where you're just acting like an asshole
                                         
                                        and like, is this racist?
                                         
                                        Sure, it's racist.
                                         
                                        But why is that part of the national conversation?
                                         
                                        This is like one kid
                                         
    
                                        or a group of kids being a bunch of fucking
                                         
                                        just animals.
                                         
                                        And like, you know, maybe they're being attacked
                                         
                                        by other people verbally.
                                         
                                        And like, you know, doesn't excuse anything.
                                         
                                        It's more just like it's just,
                                         
                                        I don't know what bearing this has
                                         
                                        on us like we are having a narrative pushed on us and then i feel like this is the bigger conversation
                                         
    
                                        needs to be talked about people you need to be more resilient and more resistant
                                         
                                        a point of view being pushed on you now at the point of view a paradigm being pushed on you
                                         
                                        where like one where you're going to pick a side what side you have on this i don't have a side
                                         
                                        on this fucking rat face kid no offense to the kid if you didn't
                                         
                                        doing him I mean I shouldn't be judging him on his rat face but you know you have a little bit of
                                         
                                        rat face he should know he has a rat face like this is sad it'll just say for a sake of argument
                                         
                                        he didn't do anything wrong it would be sad that we're attacking the kid based on his rat's face
                                         
                                        but I mean he does need to know going forward until he maybe goes into his face that might happen
                                         
    
                                        but for now you got a rat face kid so adjust your attitude accordingly know that you look smug
                                         
                                        if you didn't mean to look smug it's possible there was some kids I remember that in that scared
                                         
                                        straight documentary there was that kid back in the 70s that kid who was like you know
                                         
                                        the prison guy was young and why are you laughing at me and he's like I'm not laughing and the
                                         
                                        guy like 20 years later was saying I just had a smirk a nervous tick and he thought I was laughing
                                         
                                        that happens with these kids these kids are terrible like high school boys I want to punch all
                                         
                                        of them so I understand but you know whatever but the point is this shouldn't be you should
                                         
                                        be resilient resistant to the paradigm of like what what you're gonna someone's trying to get you
                                         
    
                                        into a conversation into a into a fucking you know decision point about like where you stand
                                         
                                        this is an agenda and like it doesn't matter what side of the agenda it's on it's not about like
                                         
                                        resist the republicans trying to push you or resist the liberals resist it at all resist the artificial
                                         
                                        conflict that's being pushed on you're not real conflict I'm not trying to dissipate the
                                         
                                        conflict of Trump versus not Trump or liberals versus Republicans or Democrat, you know, whatever.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm not trying to say that there is no, you know, actual battleground of ideas going
                                         
                                        on. But you have to be resistant of these flashpoints, which basically amount to these like
                                         
                                        photojournal, like the equivalent of photojournalism, you know, in a, or like, the cultural
                                         
    
                                        meme that they are. It's like, it's like these, this is why don't trust photojournalism in
                                         
                                        general. People have always talked about, and I'm a photographer, but, you know, trade, maybe not at the
                                         
                                        moment, but I, you know, I did my time doing, you know, wedding photography, but also, you know,
                                         
                                        but not just, you know, posing people and shit, but full journalistic weather photography. It's a
                                         
                                        genre. And, you know, I, I, I, other sorts of editorial photography where you kind of, you know,
                                         
                                        I, I know what it's like to capture people's expressions and capture, you know, emotions.
                                         
                                        I worked at a camera store for years. So I know, these,
                                         
                                        guys would come in and take pictures. I remember this guy came in and showed me this picture he took
                                         
    
                                        of an acidic Jew walking down the street. And that was never the guy who was the asshole going
                                         
                                        like, hey, your shot's not composed well or like, you know, this or it's blurry. But it was just like
                                         
                                        a completely out of focus shot. I just reflexively, I'm like, it's out of focus. He's like,
                                         
                                        what doesn't matter? It captured something. I'm like, what did you capture? He's like,
                                         
                                        oh, of course, this feeling of like, people think you, like, if you isolate a moment, because
                                         
                                        yeah, if you isolate, this picture, the guy looked.
                                         
                                        I don't know, solemn or reflective?
                                         
                                        Here's the point.
                                         
    
                                        I've done plenty of times myself in pictures.
                                         
                                        You, you, you capture a moment
                                         
                                        and you feel like you're capturing
                                         
                                        the truth in a moment, some
                                         
                                        larger truth.
                                         
                                        And doing enough, I really realized
                                         
                                        when you actually do it is you're just
                                         
                                        creating bullshit
                                         
    
                                        out of thin air. Because, look,
                                         
                                        if you're, the human,
                                         
                                        the typical film frame, for instance, just 24
                                         
                                        frames a second, right?
                                         
                                        So you have 24 segments of
                                         
                                        second to isolate any given time if you were you know if you you capture some like these split second
                                         
                                        moments anyone can look solemn anyone can look like an asshole that's why a lot of times people just
                                         
                                        have weird expressions on their face in pictures because the photographer sucks and can't you know
                                         
    
                                        they're doing in the in the opposite way you know we just you're not you're capturing the weird
                                         
                                        moment where that face was gyrated in a terrible way and the person didn't look like that but in the
                                         
                                        same way you do that in a positive way where you capture this moment where this fucking the best man
                                         
                                        a wedding where like you know if you
                                         
                                        were watching the whole day he's just
                                         
                                        drunk and like you know grabbing ass
                                         
                                        and doing coke with his
                                         
                                        with the groom and like you know
                                         
    
                                        and yelling racial epitats but you catch that
                                         
                                        one moment where he's looking at the bride and the
                                         
                                        groom and he's on the altar and he looks like he's
                                         
                                        just got a solemn look of like there's
                                         
                                        couple I have so much love in my
                                         
                                        heart and it's a beautiful moment
                                         
                                        and it's this bullshit it doesn't exist
                                         
                                        you made something I have nothing
                                         
    
                                        you create this artificial narrative
                                         
                                        you know it's this
                                         
                                        cackling, you know, bridesmaids,
                                         
                                        this fat bridesmaid who squeezed herself
                                         
                                        into her dress because she couldn't stop beating the
                                         
                                        hoagies. I mean, the hoagies Long Island,
                                         
                                        it can be good, so I don't blame her, but she's
                                         
                                        squawking. You get that picture
                                         
    
                                        with that right angle with the fucking flowers and the
                                         
                                        light coming through the stained glass, and it's just
                                         
                                        this is a beautiful moment.
                                         
                                        She's squawking, right? She smells
                                         
                                        like salami half the day. She won't start
                                         
                                        beating salami, and you're trying to take pictures.
                                         
                                        We're trying to do the family picture with the bridesmaids
                                         
                                        and she's just eating salami.
                                         
    
                                        put this army down
                                         
                                        but this moment
                                         
                                        you call it this moment
                                         
                                        when she looks like solemn
                                         
                                        and sweet
                                         
                                        just beautiful
                                         
                                        is what love is all about
                                         
                                        and family coming
                                         
    
                                        it's bullshit you've caught
                                         
                                        bullshit in a bottle
                                         
                                        and now you put it into an album
                                         
                                        and you're sold with the people
                                         
                                        and the same thing is true
                                         
                                        of the most of this full journalism
                                         
                                        you've seen throughout history I think
                                         
                                        I mean I
                                         
    
                                        some of it is totally true
                                         
                                        I mean these Eorijima pictures
                                         
                                        where like they were fucking
                                         
                                        putting the flag up on the hill
                                         
                                        I mean, the whole movie about that.
                                         
                                        The one of Kleene's where it was all staged.
                                         
                                        They staged the fucking things.
                                         
                                        And what about this fucking...
                                         
    
                                        Like, they're digging with a Kent State.
                                         
                                        I mean, I may be getting this...
                                         
                                        It may be confusing the universities.
                                         
                                        But that picture in the 60s with the National Guard guys
                                         
                                        with the rifles and they're putting their fucking...
                                         
                                        The hippies putting the flour into the rifle.
                                         
                                        And it's like, oh, this is such a...
                                         
                                        A vocative, beautiful moment.
                                         
    
                                        A real telling moment.
                                         
                                        A real, you know, a contrast of...
                                         
                                        forces at play
                                         
                                        What is that telling you?
                                         
                                        First of all, can we not pretend
                                         
                                        I feel like
                                         
                                        I'm talking to children my whole life
                                         
                                        Can we stop being children
                                         
    
                                        And just acknowledge we all know
                                         
                                        In this stage we all know
                                         
                                        That hippie knew the cameras there
                                         
                                        He knew the fucking cameras
                                         
                                        They know he's being watched
                                         
                                        He knows it's a good photo op
                                         
                                        You think he's just doing that to do it
                                         
                                        He's doing it to be seen doing it
                                         
    
                                        Which is like if a take away from it
                                         
                                        Yes, it takes away from it.
                                         
                                        It's a performance, all right?
                                         
                                        The nature, the whole fucking uncertainty principle or whatever the fuck, the Heisenberg thing, whatever the fuck is called.
                                         
                                        You look at something, the looking changes it.
                                         
                                        And it's not just that.
                                         
                                        I mean, that's just one thing.
                                         
                                        In this case, you look at something, and someone knows you're looking, and they're doing something different.
                                         
    
                                        So, yeah, you're not capturing it.
                                         
                                        You're capturing this artificial fucking, oh, it tells a bigger truth, though.
                                         
                                        No, it doesn't.
                                         
                                        you know what tells bigger truths words you know a fucking descriptive paragraph would tell a bigger
                                         
                                        truth about what the fuck i'm supposed to take away from this it's nice don't get i get the
                                         
                                        subtext and i get you put the fucking thing in the foreground and the other thing in the background
                                         
                                        and one of them's blurry one of them's not and you juxtaposition we love to use juxtaposition
                                         
                                        the juxtaposition of two things if you're not familiar with the german term juxtaposition
                                         
    
                                        it's just you take a
                                         
                                        It's Banksy or whatever
                                         
                                        It's just fucking
                                         
                                        You take a trash can
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        A junkyard
                                         
                                        And you put a little
                                         
                                        You get a picture of a flower
                                         
    
                                        In the foreround
                                         
                                        And it looks at a juxtaposition
                                         
                                        The two things
                                         
                                        It's the simplest form of art
                                         
                                        And all those juxtapose
                                         
                                        These two things
                                         
                                        All right what's that mean
                                         
                                        Well you've
                                         
    
                                        You've put these two things together
                                         
                                        That you know
                                         
                                        They have a contrasting visual
                                         
                                        You know sense
                                         
                                        In this case
                                         
                                        In this Native American
                                         
                                        This kid
                                         
                                        face kid and a solemn face Native American.
                                         
    
                                        It's a juxtaposition.
                                         
                                        I mean, this is a video.
                                         
                                        And look,
                                         
                                        what do I know about the Native American guy?
                                         
                                        Does he have pure intentions?
                                         
                                        I guess it doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        Don't be a rat-faced kid to the guy.
                                         
                                        But also, like, I mean,
                                         
    
                                        you don't be a rat-faced kid.
                                         
                                        But in the day, like,
                                         
                                        but what am I learning from this?
                                         
                                        That some kid was a rat-faced kid.
                                         
                                        And then, like, and then what?
                                         
                                        What are we building off of this?
                                         
                                        We know half the country
                                         
                                        doesn't agree with us
                                         
    
                                        whoever we are
                                         
                                        unless you don't have any opinion
                                         
                                        but if you have one of the two major opinions
                                         
                                        half the country doesn't agree with you
                                         
                                        all right so we hate each other
                                         
                                        you mean you only do false equivalencies
                                         
                                        but the end of the day
                                         
                                        most people on either side
                                         
    
                                        are not
                                         
                                        you might be on the right side
                                         
                                        but the odds are a lot of people
                                         
                                        don't really have the appropriate
                                         
                                        appreciation of all the facts
                                         
                                        all the permutations to really be
                                         
                                        smug about anything there's a lot of smugness in this country and just because you might happen
                                         
                                        to be on what would be the right side or wrong side doesn't give you the right to be smug okay
                                         
    
                                        doesn't give you the right to just fucking act superior because you happen to have you know and
                                         
                                        especially the age of trump because you can make the argument like oh Trump is such an abhorrent
                                         
                                        outlier that you know to intend to not agree with him or to agree with him is such a bold
                                         
                                        departure from a cultural norm, whatever the fuck you would make the case.
                                         
                                        I can totally sympathize at that point.
                                         
                                        But also, it's such a fucking obvious point.
                                         
                                        There's no, to be smug, you should be asking a larger question about why when this guy is
                                         
                                        acting the way he's acting, which I agree is important.
                                         
    
                                        And I agree, I think he's racist.
                                         
                                        And I think a lot of, you know, these policies are terrible.
                                         
                                        And I think they're basically, you know, they can be aptly described as neo-fascist.
                                         
                                        necessarily everything he stands for or everything republicans yeah that's that's more
                                         
                                        accurate let's say everything republican stands for is inherently fascist but trump is acting
                                         
                                        in a what you would call and not just him but you know in a global sense we're seeing this
                                         
                                        phenomenon this neo-fascist kind of style of you know basically using you know aggressive
                                         
                                        rhetoric using other you know using the other in this case our cases immigrants and a lot of
                                         
    
                                        world is immigrants but in passive Jews and in Germany and uh
                                         
                                        fascist Italy they had the
                                         
                                        communists I guess but you know the point is
                                         
                                        these are tactics it's more
                                         
                                        it's the tactics being used
                                         
                                        and yeah some of it the policies and I don't agree with the
                                         
                                        Republican Party in general
                                         
                                        but to look at and this phenomenon
                                         
    
                                        and not to ask yourself
                                         
                                        why is this happening
                                         
                                        to immediately just look and go wow they must just be all
                                         
                                        racist and evil
                                         
                                        it's just
                                         
                                        it's unproductive and I'm not saying like we should
                                         
                                        like you you fucking handhold
                                         
                                        people and like you know who
                                         
    
                                        who are fucking acting like scum but you have to look at where this came from like people are
                                         
                                        basically they're not that great people are not that remarkable you have people who rise above
                                         
                                        their position for sure i mean great people who are history is why they're great people and you're
                                         
                                        people who you know moderately do it but to a lot of people they basically giving a certain set of
                                         
                                        stimuli will act a certain way it's just kind of we're not you know we're not completely you know
                                         
                                        animals devoid of free will
                                         
                                        but we're also not
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        this is not some kind of
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        Athenian
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        court where we just
                                         
                                        they have courts in Athenia
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        this is not some
                                         
    
                                        we're not the remarkable people
                                         
                                        we're not the fucking
                                         
                                        you know we're the great citizens
                                         
                                        of America
                                         
                                        and we're all debating the points
                                         
                                        and having this great debate
                                         
                                        no I mean we're basically
                                         
                                        animals and we're easily programmed
                                         
    
                                        I mean and our programming
                                         
                                        has been you know
                                         
                                        at least for a hundred years
                                         
                                        years now about. You know, with guys like Edward Bernays, who was the founder of, you know,
                                         
                                        what we call public relations. He was the, it was a nephew of Sigmund Freud.
                                         
                                        I mean, some people like the shit on Sigmund Freud or kind of, you know, ah, he was a kook
                                         
                                        who just talking about, you know, fucking your mother or, you know, just all you do all his
                                         
                                        cocaine. Yeah, yeah, he was, there's a lot of weird shit with Freud, but I mean, most of his
                                         
    
                                        stuff, most of his, what you call it, teachings, his theories, they were put into practice
                                         
                                        by his nephew, Edward Bernays,
                                         
                                        who pioneered the
                                         
                                        public relations industry,
                                         
                                        which is not just,
                                         
                                        you know, not just for selling products, it wasn't for
                                         
                                        selling wars and selling policy, you know,
                                         
                                        they've been doing this for years now.
                                         
    
                                        They know how malleable we are.
                                         
                                        I mean, he wrote a book called
                                         
                                        propaganda. And then back then it was like
                                         
                                        not this dirty word that we,
                                         
                                        it might not have been the most
                                         
                                        clean word, but it was kind of
                                         
                                        the scene as just kind of, propaganda
                                         
                                        was the, uh,
                                         
    
                                        the art of
                                         
                                        you know kind of persuading or manipulating the public
                                         
                                        and it wasn't seen as that
                                         
                                        crazy back then I guess I mean honestly it's like
                                         
                                        it shouldn't be seen as that crazy now
                                         
                                        it's done all the time
                                         
                                        we get somehow acting with propaganda is alien to us
                                         
                                        when like we do it constantly
                                         
    
                                        but I mean the argument
                                         
                                        was basically made you know
                                         
                                        if you have a free society
                                         
                                        the way we're supposed you know America supposedly
                                         
                                        has a free society and you just allowed
                                         
                                        the people to just have
                                         
                                        their uh their whims
                                         
                                        or whatever, you know, people just
                                         
    
                                        unmoified, unchecked,
                                         
                                        have their representative forces at play.
                                         
                                        You know, you have chaos in society.
                                         
                                        You need to have a two-party system
                                         
                                        and basically have choices to be limited
                                         
                                        and have the scope of, you know,
                                         
                                        the scope of debate be limited.
                                         
                                        And, you know, look, from a practical point of view,
                                         
    
                                        it's probably, you know,
                                         
                                        you can probably agree with that to a certain extent.
                                         
                                        There's probably some logic to that.
                                         
                                        But, you know, that's really not a view of humanity
                                         
                                        inspires any hope and you know at the end of the day
                                         
                                        I might sound cynical but the last
                                         
                                        hope I have is that people yeah maybe we can
                                         
                                        rise above our basic
                                         
    
                                        binary animal state
                                         
                                        and not you know but
                                         
                                        that's the thing if unless we do rise above it
                                         
                                        then they're right they're right
                                         
                                        they win so
                                         
                                        it's just the same way
                                         
                                        I've always said when you see
                                         
                                        someone when you see a fucking
                                         
    
                                        event happen and then people start
                                         
                                        going we should you know we should start
                                         
                                        going to war over this
                                         
                                        some 9-11
                                         
                                        type thing happens some fucking attack uh and people talk on well we should go to war or you know
                                         
                                        just the initial it's not that the thing is fake you don't go to immediate Alex Jones mode
                                         
                                        and go this is fake and bullshit and try to make a conspiracy theory but you put it into a mode
                                         
                                        of like well who's benefiting why am i being asked to to believe this to act on this
                                         
    
                                        you know you when when when when you're giving a binary like this in this case isn't this is not a war thing but this is a case where you have like a binary we have a you're basically being fed this kind of like us versus them narrative on something that doesn't matter to anyone but the people involved i mean is it applicable in some like you know if you're in a philosophy class maybe but really it's an irrelevant story this this is them trying to capture the media
                                         
                                        trying to capture a flashpoint and you know and have this moment where like it really summed up
                                         
                                        whatever the tensions were at the time you know of this country in this country and it's bullshit
                                         
                                        I'm not saying the kid wasn't wrong or his kids weren't wrong but you know doesn't matter
                                         
                                        that's the thing it's the larger why is this the larger question of society I mean maybe
                                         
                                        it's just maybe it's an escapeable part of the technology of it all the social media thing like
                                         
                                        You know, maybe it's just...
                                         
                                        I mean, I don't want to be the Luddite guy saying, you know,
                                         
    
                                        the Internet kind of ruins society.
                                         
                                        I always kind of scoffed the idea of it in years before,
                                         
                                        but it really does seem like the Internet has kind of ruined everything.
                                         
                                        Not in everything.
                                         
                                        I like the fact I can go on YouTube and watch cool videos about video games and medieval armor.
                                         
                                        And all these things I didn't even know I cared about.
                                         
                                        You know, like, oh, look, I was just watching a video about what peasants ate?
                                         
                                        the middle ages and it's like apparently the darker the bread the poorer you were because you know
                                         
    
                                        and like you know because the rich only rich people get their uh their bread with their with the
                                         
                                        flower bleached or whatever disguised as skies the word whatever you whatever you used to
                                         
                                        clean the barley the outer barley off the barley these are interesting facts and like i love
                                         
                                        having them available to me but then you look at the arab spring and they go that wasn't as
                                         
                                        great maybe there was no answer
                                         
                                        because the answer is like you know the answer is always something like well maybe the government should figure out some way to fucking you know contain this and that's also like i mean not to be this guy who fears the government but that
                                         
                                        a let's not act like they don't want to at the end there isn't a thing called the nsa that basically wants to you know control all information flow the CIA doesn't also spy nonce people and you know use propaganda against us and try to you know let's not be naive
                                         
                                        children. I mean, this idea that, like, you know, you're a kook if you think that, you know,
                                         
    
                                        and this is this horseshit, but also not everything's conspiracy. Some of it is just, you know,
                                         
                                        the practical realities of living in a weird democracy in the 21st century. It's a little bit
                                         
                                        of both. But the reality is, like, even if they were going to do it, they're just not
                                         
                                        that good at it. I mean, the one thing, I'll give a lot of leeway to people who argue against
                                         
                                        conspiracy theory sometimes, like, because I get the instinct. I mean, there is a fetishizing
                                         
                                        of scepticalness
                                         
                                        with conspiracies
                                         
                                        that people do
                                         
    
                                        but I get the instinct
                                         
                                        and not
                                         
                                        especially when you see
                                         
                                        something like
                                         
                                        fucking Pizza Gate
                                         
                                        or like
                                         
                                        Alex Jones
                                         
                                        with the Sandy Hook shit
                                         
    
                                        where like
                                         
                                        people just
                                         
                                        the unformed
                                         
                                        idiots are just
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        chomping at the bit
                                         
                                        but like you know
                                         
                                        as reasonable
                                         
    
                                        as you want to be
                                         
                                        the echo chamber
                                         
                                        of psychopaths listening
                                         
                                        to you might
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        take the ball
                                         
                                        and run with it
                                         
                                        and in the case of Alex Jones
                                         
    
                                        he's not exactly
                                         
                                        to be reasonable
                                         
                                        to begin with
                                         
                                        so I
                                         
                                        get that you don't want to be a part of that and you see the dangers of that it's it's complicated
                                         
                                        but same time this is fetishizing of like you know people want to lump in the conspiracy with
                                         
                                        like any kind of anti-government thought and the idea that you would question the government's
                                         
                                        ability to regulate things i'm not saying that i'm against regulation but let's not pretend
                                         
    
                                        if they're good at it either all right maybe the EPA yeah it's probably better they're there
                                         
                                        I'm sure those regulations.
                                         
                                        It also depends on the field.
                                         
                                        They're probably better at environmental regulations.
                                         
                                        But, you know, financial regulations.
                                         
                                        They're not good at all at that.
                                         
                                        I mean, a lot of what they've done, you know, for instance, with the bonds, the bond agencies, the rating agencies.
                                         
                                        You know, just a small kernel of it.
                                         
    
                                        You know, the fact that, you know, they really weren't that prevalent.
                                         
                                        They didn't have that much power until, I guess, Congress, you know, basically enacted legislation.
                                         
                                        or maybe it was the SEC.
                                         
                                        I'm not sure exactly how it went down,
                                         
                                        but they're basically saying that, you know,
                                         
                                        pension funds couldn't invest in bonds
                                         
                                        unless they had AAA rating,
                                         
                                        which makes sense on service
                                         
    
                                        because you have people's pensions and retirements in your hands.
                                         
                                        You can't go betting them, you know,
                                         
                                        the farm on some fucking risky investment.
                                         
                                        You want to keep it, you know, something sound.
                                         
                                        And, you know, makes sense, sure.
                                         
                                        But then what you basically did
                                         
                                        was create a college industry
                                         
                                        where these rating agencies,
                                         
    
                                        because you just have to do your research, right?
                                         
                                        You said, like, you know,
                                         
                                        when you're an investor,
                                         
                                        You just have to like kind of look at what was actually the reasonable safety of an investment and the soundness of it.
                                         
                                        And now when you go, you either buy AAA or don't buy anything.
                                         
                                        So AAA becomes this fucking binary situation where it's like, well, if it has AAA, we can buy it.
                                         
                                        So now you've removed that level of implied, you know, self-disciplined research.
                                         
                                        you're going to give something and you're just fucking now it's either it's triple a or not and so basically
                                         
    
                                        you gave the power of these rating agencies to eventually become rating shops where like you know as
                                         
                                        they were under financial pressure because they also they went public and they were had their own
                                         
                                        bottom lines to worry about I think that happened around you know the time of the mortgage you know
                                         
                                        the mortgage boom so you know of course they're going to you know start to fucking just give
                                         
                                        shitty investments triple A and like and therefore like you know
                                         
                                        The more you kind of molly-collo people,
                                         
                                        the less they're going to be skeptical going to be.
                                         
                                        It's just kind of an inherent thing.
                                         
    
                                        It's not to say that, like, regulation makes people stupid.
                                         
                                        Like, you don't take anything to the extreme.
                                         
                                        But these tendencies are at play, right?
                                         
                                        So, like, yeah, the government's not great at regulating shit.
                                         
                                        And, like, to say that, it's not to say that you're, like,
                                         
                                        some Republican who's anti-regulation
                                         
                                        or some libertarian Coke brother, you know, cuck.
                                         
                                        Some Coke, Coke, Cuck.
                                         
    
                                        Can we start that term, the Coke cuck?
                                         
                                        I guess the Coke's,
                                         
                                        really aren't in the news that much anymore they're not really a big that would be great though
                                         
                                        to do the coke cuck back in the day not the river off the trump cuck thing and that's chris
                                         
                                        stanley's thing shout to chris stanley from my society radio uh but yeah he used to do that thing
                                         
                                        but uh coke cuck that would have been fun hard to say for me at least but whatever we're moving
                                         
                                        the point is i don't know where we go i'm not a guy saying regulate the internet to the point
                                         
                                        where we can't revolt or anything but that seems to be where we're going the kid had a shitty
                                         
    
                                        But I want to punch all kids.
                                         
                                        Well, not all kids.
                                         
                                        Let's just say, you know, boys from the age of 12 to 16 or 18, they're all punchable to me.
                                         
                                        And I think, you know, what might stand here is the most controversial thing I said is I could take high school to Bron James in the fight or high school Tom Brady or high school big unit Randy Jackson.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I stand by it.
                                         
                                        I'll take my lumps.
                                         
                                        If I can go back in time and fight them, I would.
                                         
    
                                        And I'll take my lumps if I lose.
                                         
                                        but I feel like I'm just not going to ever fear a high school boy and I don't think
                                         
                                        that Native American guy did either so let's stop pretending that he did um we can say a lot well
                                         
                                        everything else you know they should there's disrespectful disgraceful but don't act like he was
                                         
                                        afraid of him that guy would wipe the floor with that fucking kid and all four of his friends
                                         
                                        all right so let's remember that that kid not taking that guy uh Venezuela we're moving on
                                         
                                        this is bad shit critical
                                         
                                        I just want to spend a minute
                                         
    
                                        so Venezuela
                                         
                                        got Maduro in power there
                                         
                                        I'll be honest I'm not the most informed guy about
                                         
                                        Venezuela it seems to have always
                                         
                                        been pretty you know
                                         
                                        if you're Oliver Stone you love Chavez
                                         
                                        Chavez apparently was a great
                                         
                                        a great savior
                                         
    
                                        I mean here's the problem
                                         
                                        we did so much fucking around
                                         
                                        down there in the Cold War
                                         
                                        and then you know for years afterwards
                                         
                                        destroying these countries
                                         
                                        that's the big problem with his immigration
                                         
                                        shit. A lot of these
                                         
                                        this fucking, the rise
                                         
    
                                        of these gangs that are pushing a lot of these
                                         
                                        people to migrate out of Central
                                         
                                        America comes from us shipping
                                         
                                        like MS-13 guys
                                         
                                        at some point back to like these countries because
                                         
                                        they were like from El Salvador but like they hadn't
                                         
                                        been there in like a decade or two
                                         
                                        I'm not even sure they were born there
                                         
    
                                        and was shipping these people back and then
                                         
                                        you're surprised they take over the country
                                         
                                        and they made the country of war zone
                                         
                                        and this is the same kind of thinking that goes with like
                                         
                                        you know I don't know how much we
                                         
                                        in Venezuela in particular, but
                                         
                                        the general tone of the Cold War
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        it wasn't great. We did a lot of damage
                                         
                                        down there and so
                                         
                                        I mean my point is
                                         
                                        when Oliver Stone makes him video
                                         
                                        his little documentary about Chavez
                                         
                                        I guess I guess where he's coming from because you see
                                         
                                        how much shit we're doing all over the place
                                         
                                        and Chavez probably wasn't as evil as we
                                         
    
                                        made him out to be but I guess Maduro guy
                                         
                                        I think he's even worse I think they've been going through
                                         
                                        like crazy inflation
                                         
                                        point is
                                         
                                        so this
                                         
                                        the opposition guy
                                         
                                        fucking calls
                                         
                                        a day of protests where all the opposition
                                         
    
                                        kind of unified behind him
                                         
                                        and then Trump or his administration
                                         
                                        basically well definitely Trump came out
                                         
                                        and like
                                         
                                        acknowledged him as the interim president
                                         
                                        this fucking guy called
                                         
                                        which is like look
                                         
                                        when are we going to learn
                                         
    
                                        I don't know where we get the power
                                         
                                        to decide whose people's leaders are
                                         
                                        where we can just in polite society
                                         
                                        say we're looking for
                                         
                                        regime change in this country
                                         
                                        when did that become
                                         
                                        like how is that now that like how are
                                         
                                        we pretending that we're a
                                         
    
                                        republic and then we're kind of as we believe
                                         
                                        in the democratic
                                         
                                        whatever you know state of
                                         
                                        operations and now we're going to
                                         
                                        fucking just openly we just all the time we call
                                         
                                        out people go we're looking for regime change
                                         
                                        in this country how is like
                                         
                                        how is that fit with diplomacy
                                         
    
                                        it doesn't like you
                                         
                                        basically if we
                                         
                                        were that's the thing
                                         
                                        we are always looking for
                                         
                                        a war footing. We may be in between wars
                                         
                                        any given time, but we're always up
                                         
                                        for a war, and we're always up
                                         
                                        for limiting the options
                                         
    
                                        in the overall
                                         
                                        aim of getting to
                                         
                                        a war. Again, how does
                                         
                                        actually manifest? Is Trump actually
                                         
                                        trying to get into a war of Venezuela?
                                         
                                        No, I don't know. Maybe, maybe not, but the idea
                                         
                                        is that we don't seem
                                         
                                        as a country to value diplomacy.
                                         
    
                                        The value, what is you having for a while?
                                         
                                        we we kind of
                                         
                                        especially in Republican administrations
                                         
                                        but also I mean like honestly like you know
                                         
                                        if you remember you know
                                         
                                        Clinton
                                         
                                        um
                                         
                                        Hillary Hillary was
                                         
    
                                        you know
                                         
                                        Obama they all had a hard on
                                         
                                        for Russia
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        one of them one of those Democratic guys
                                         
                                        came out pretty early on with a hard on
                                         
                                        for Iran or a fucking
                                         
                                        they're always kind of hard on for someone
                                         
    
                                        like they won't
                                         
                                        even if it's just that you're trying to like
                                         
                                        posture yourself to not look weak
                                         
                                        But, you know, at the end of the day, if everyone's trying not to look weak, what do you have?
                                         
                                        You have a bunch of fucking, you know, alpha cucks, you know, just putting, selling weapons to each other.
                                         
                                        That's what you have.
                                         
                                        So my point is, I don't know what the value of, I mean, are we really thinking that, like, you know,
                                         
                                        because basically the guy pushed all the diplomats out of Venezuela, which is good, because, you know,
                                         
    
                                        I guess, you know, where do our spies work?
                                         
                                        Do they work at the embassy?
                                         
                                        they do they work at the embassy so yeah we've gotten a little of our spies out of the country
                                         
                                        at least a lot of the bulk of them i'm sure it's a few guys left but i mean your your genius move
                                         
                                        has pushed in the time of turmoil all of the spies out of the country no one see the problem
                                         
                                        with that i mean they wouldn't think i mean it was kind of foreseeable to me that if you start
                                         
                                        calling for if you start calling this this guy who was calling for a day of protest the interim
                                         
                                        president of Venezuela that he might push the you know the diplomats out of the
                                         
    
                                        country along with because what do you think spies work you know you maybe don't know
                                         
                                        spies the CIA tend to unless they're like kind of very specialized people and there's also
                                         
                                        sort of exceptions but generally the CIA they're they're all working as dip with diplomatic cover
                                         
                                        they're all half the guy I mean a certain amount of guys at the state department in the embassy of
                                         
                                        any given country working the CIA and they have like their own little floor in the
                                         
                                        the embassy because the CIA station and they have a day of a day job for the state department they
                                         
                                        do and they have two jobs and basically and then they also do their CIA shit where they were you know
                                         
                                        recruit people and they blackmail people and hey we got a picture of you fucking some of the guy's
                                         
    
                                        wife and you better to betray your country I mean let's not perfect they're not good people but
                                         
                                        they're gathering information at least it's a job that probably needs to be done not the way they're
                                         
                                        doing it but you know we need some information and point is you got really you guys
                                         
                                        Now you don't have that.
                                         
                                        Now you've lost a big chunk of your, you know,
                                         
                                        intelligence infrastructure because you wanted to go on Twitter and it's not just
                                         
                                        Trumping Trump.
                                         
                                        This is a really clumsy case of it.
                                         
    
                                        But, I mean, we do it all the time.
                                         
                                        I think you, your Bush do it.
                                         
                                        You even hear Obama talk about regime change.
                                         
                                        I forget who.
                                         
                                        Don't call it.
                                         
                                        I think in Syria they were talking about that with Assad, right?
                                         
                                        I could be wrong.
                                         
                                        I'm pretty sure he called for it too.
                                         
    
                                        It's just, look, you know, you.
                                         
                                        You either, you negotiate, you don't.
                                         
                                        I mean, look, yeah, would you call for regime change with Hitler?
                                         
                                        I guess, but, like, you're not going to get it by calling for it.
                                         
                                        We think you're going to, like, emboldened the fucking people.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you emboldened people to revolt against their people.
                                         
                                        You start attacking the country.
                                         
                                        And if you want the fucking the French rebel, the French resistance to start attacking Vichy France,
                                         
    
                                        you start bombing Normandy.
                                         
                                        I'm sure there was probably no bigger boon for the French resistance than the,
                                         
                                        invasion of normandy because like us we're actually doing this because every other time we do this
                                         
                                        we seem to get people killed the fucking bay of pigs yeah like that was calling for regime change
                                         
                                        that was calling for fucking hey yeah get these uh anti Castro you on a castra yeah we'll support
                                         
                                        you in the last minute we pull out I mean it's complicated you know Kennedy and Trump and they
                                         
                                        end up killing Kennedy over it but that's not the point the point is you know why we we we
                                         
                                        is no clean sweep
                                         
    
                                        these are not going to be I don't even know what the
                                         
                                        politics are here but the point is
                                         
                                        it's just can we just not
                                         
                                        meddle so much if you're going to metal
                                         
                                        do it but don't fuck this
                                         
                                        this meddling nonsense
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        I just don't uh I don't get it
                                         
    
                                        I feel like I'm advocating for the CIA
                                         
                                        right now it's not what I'm trying to do
                                         
                                        but I'm sure they'd agree with me
                                         
                                        they're ass out
                                         
                                        and that's part of the thing that happened with the
                                         
                                        fucking Iranian thing back in
                                         
                                        70s. I mean, it wasn't the same
                                         
                                        exact situation, but, you know, because of the
                                         
    
                                        church, was it church commissions or whatever? What were the post-Waragate
                                         
                                        commissions were that investigated the plumbers and shit?
                                         
                                        If I can, came out and they were all these
                                         
                                        like restrictions for the intelligence agencies, the CIA,
                                         
                                        and they weren't able to do the same kind of shit overseas,
                                         
                                        and they were a little bit hobbled. So they didn't know when the
                                         
                                        fucking revolution was happening, that happened. And it was kind of
                                         
                                        a part of the issue there. So I mean, in a similar vein,
                                         
    
                                        have this we have a fucking situation where you know who knows what we're gonna miss now i mean but uh it
                                         
                                        probably have good to have a few guys behind the scenes there you know blackmailing people but
                                         
                                        also maybe gathering some intel yeah you know hey general i hear you have a gambling problem
                                         
                                        are you gonna help me with that no we're gonna fuck you better fucking pay up or we're gonna like
                                         
                                        you know take a picture of your wife's tit and mail it to the president i'm not sure how it works
                                         
                                        i wouldn't be a great spy but i didn't provide i'd be decent at it a lot of it just seems to be
                                         
                                        sexual blackmail and, like, you know, buying people hookers, but, uh, but they're not in the country
                                         
                                        anymore. So that's, I don't know. There's a, uh, we'll close. There's a story of this brain
                                         
    
                                        dead woman or mentally vegetative state woman who's impregnated by a nurse. Um, it's really
                                         
                                        terrible. Um, I don't know what to make of it. Uh, people have been asking me about a couple
                                         
                                        people because I've worked in the morgue. I have no insight. I want people to stop getting
                                         
                                        insight did i have insight into people fucking you know people who are either dead or don't have
                                         
                                        you know no i we never that was very professional and all of us were and uh we didn't do it and uh
                                         
                                        i will say you know if anyone isn't aware of the story the story the a nurse working in a facility
                                         
                                        with a woman in a vegetative state because he impregnated her and she had a baby i'm you know
                                         
                                        I don't tell you
                                         
    
                                        I will tell you I don't know where you get out of that
                                         
                                        I mean just try to get into a relationship
                                         
                                        with a woman or a man and like you know
                                         
                                        share something just cuddle with them
                                         
                                        how what are you feeling when you do that
                                         
                                        it can't be that good
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        I guess someone's you could argue someone's not in the right
                                         
    
                                        mental state if they're going to do that
                                         
                                        but the other day I mean
                                         
                                        you just lonely like stop just
                                         
                                        talk to someone go on to start playing chess
                                         
                                        online and chat with the guy playing chair
                                         
                                        a woman playing chess
                                         
                                        not for sex but just try to meet people but go go play call of duty and meet people
                                         
                                        not the best place to meet people but just communicate with people you don't need to
                                         
    
                                        fucking animate object or around people who are not the person of vegetative states
                                         
                                        and an adamant object you know you don't have to do that to people you shouldn't do that's a
                                         
                                        crime and it's a crime against humanity but I mean it's also like you shouldn't feel like
                                         
                                        you need to and I'm I'm there are probably people who could reach these people and get through
                                         
                                        them I'm not sure about the guy I just like cut cut the shit
                                         
                                        I would just say in general, cut the shit.
                                         
                                        I just try to be aware when people are trying to push you into a box and just cut the shit.
                                         
                                        And good luck to the people of Venezuela.
                                         
    
                                        I hope you do get a better government.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm not sure if this one will be a better government, but I'll just hope it gets better there because you've had it rough for a while.
                                         
                                        I mean, those people could use a break.
                                         
                                        Good luck to you.
                                         
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