Kump - 4 - I'll Fight All the High School Boys
Episode Date: January 24, 2019Ray continues his blackmail war against capitalism, addresses the MAGA-Kid vs. Native American thing, unpacks the Venezuelan crisis, and becomes an unlikely ally of the C.I.A. ...
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I repurposed it.
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sued by any
about stealing this is mine
don't worry about it
it's just something I did back when I was trying
to make electronic music
that career didn't work out
you know so now I'm here
welcome
if you have been listening
to the previous episodes
you've been privy to my
assault on corporate America
I'm trying to get sponsors
but I'm not willing to just sit here and wait
and growing audience and
an organic way and have them have companies look at my you know download numbers and
I got to prove to them that you know I'm a viable fuck that all right I know I can
transfer whatever fans I got with listeners I got into cash right now and if I'm not going to see
that we're going to you know propel the situation we're going to force the hand of corporate
America uh last week I uh I adjusted my tactics to try and blackmail account I'm going to do a
other one of those blackmail situations where i try to uh i'm just going to do an ad read for
a company and uh if they if they don't like it they don't want me to do it um if when they take
this down they got to pay up so it's a little more aggressive it's a little more puts the on
them because before i was trying to do ad reads and then have them pay me now no now we're
going to do uh at this don't i mean i'm not saying anything bad but you know do you want this out
there because this week it's fage yogurt or is it faget faggay don't know i think they're
icelandic maybe they're from detroit uh i like your yogurt i use a lot of your yogurt i eat
the blueberry uh version i use the version with the honey uh sometimes i buy the honey cup
uh that's you know you you tilt the cup towards the yogurt and it oozes out but that takes
a while so i'll take a bear honey you know honey that comes in a bear jar but i'll just
dump it out. I'll just dump out the bear
honey onto a larger
container of yogurt. It helps keep me regular.
They don't advertise this as
one of those shit yogurts. There's a lot
of shit yogurts out there, or at least one of them.
Was it activia?
The activity of the shit yogurt? Who am I asked? I don't know producers anymore.
I'm asking myself. I think it's activity
was the shit yogurt.
This isn't one of those. This isn't one of those. This is one
Jamie Lee Curtis doesn't come out
in Fajie commercials and say, hey, you could
flip my leg back and I shit.
just like the yogurt container does.
If you've seen Fajie containers,
you would understand that the thing that you flip
and this is the sense of,
you know,
I imagine if we had Jamie Lee Curtis on the Fajie team,
we would have her do a little pirouette
and then she would shit onto the floor
or into her pants.
She wouldn't be pantsless.
That would be, you know,
she's a respect.
I'm not going to ask her to do that.
That's disrespectful to ask a,
I don't know if she's an Oscar-nominated actress
or winner, but she's,
she's, I mean,
she's a woman. She deserves a respect
regardless. And then on top of
that, she's also, you know, a great actress.
So it adds to the
respect. Either way, I'm not going to ask a woman to
shit onto the floor of a set
of a TV commercial for a
yogurt company. It's just
that's not
it's not
me. In the Me Too era
especially, you can't be doing that.
And I've always been ahead
of the curve anyway. But no,
now you wouldn't. I'd expect to see that
Maybe someone else doing that commercial in 1998, maybe 2005.
I wouldn't be surprised if Danin made that commercial.
I never would.
But I would never ask a woman to shit onto a concrete floor of a studio and say, hey, buy our yogurt.
You could have this happen.
You wish you could shit like this?
You know, this could be you.
Imagine you and this woman having the same level of shit regularity.
That's a possibility buy our yogurt.
You know, it's just, it's all awaiting you buying this yogurt.
taking the shit, eat it every day, you know, make it happen.
That's not what I'm doing here.
Where were we?
Fajai, it's great yoga.
It's not advertised that way, but it does keep me regular.
Something to do with probiotics, you know, little microbes are going to your stomach and your gut,
and they produce flora and fauna.
So buy that yogurt.
Buy Fajie yogurt.
Now Fajay, if you don't like that ad, the amount of times they mention shit,
And Jimmy Lee Curtis shitting onto a floor, do you think that's problematic for your company, your company's image, we can, you know, we can get rid of it.
We can, we can undo, this is late stage capitalism, people, all right?
People love to shit on capitalism and say that, you know, it only helps the, uh, the large company screw over the little guy.
You know, you have to, in late stage, you have to take capitalism into your own hands, all right?
You know, because the whole thing is they're not going to help you.
they're going to help the government's out to help you know bowling and uh bell helicopter
any of the defense companies you know companies that make socks they might get some help you're
not getting help you got to do stuff like this on your own crowdsourcing your own money you can steal
too i mean i don't know am i a public figure am i allowed to advocate stealing probably not
if i get into trouble for that because i'm a public figure supposedly i don't i mean i'm not saying
I am, but you know, I'm not to
my own horn, but I think I still can't
advocate you, like, you know, going to a Walmart
and, like, throwing a rock through the window
and, like, you know, taking
shit yogurt out of there and like, yeah, I'm
taking my shit yogurt. Fuck capitalism.
I can't advocate that
as much as I might want to.
I mean, I'm a fan of the free market,
but, you know, if they don't
do things to prevent you, if they treat
you in such a way where you feel you need
to steal their shit yogurt,
I feel like that there is
something you can do with the free market there and you know whatever so please faje send me
money uh i'm not who you're sure if you that fadj is a parent company or is maybe they're owned
by general mills or uh maybe they're owned by some companies people who make arm and hammer
bacon soda maybe own them i don't know so i just you know pay the bills here we're trying to get
studio or even just like a different mic uh maybe a new headphone whatever we we'll expand operations
and we need to get financed.
We might do a Patreon.
I don't know.
We're going to see if we can shake down
corporate America first.
But in the meantime,
well, that's what we're doing in the meantime.
But, you know, we might do that later.
We might do a Patreon.
We can't get corporate America
to pony up some money,
which is probably likely.
A lot of crazy things happen.
All right, so over the weekend,
I think the big story was this kid
during the Right to Life March, right?
The Right to Life March is a March they do every year.
Anti-abortion.
It all stems from the whole, you know,
because if you're anti-abortion, you're pro-life,
if you're pro-abortion, you're pro-choice,
everything's a fucking, you know,
we use these catch-all frame.
I'm a life, I mean, this.
It's, whatever, these kids are part of some Catholic high school,
I guess, much like I didn't go to an old boys one,
but I think theirs was an old boy.
High School full of these pro-life kids.
I mean, look, if you pulled them,
they're probably pro-life until they fucking knock some woman up.
Or the woman knocks them up.
I'm not trying to be gendering here.
But, you know, these kids, I've met these kids.
I know these kids.
I've been in speech classes with these kids
at a Catholic high school,
and they're making these cases like these speeches
about how, like, you know, I was pro-life until I was having sex with my
ugly girlfriend and I'm an
these guy's ugly too
I'm gonna make it fun of his ugly girlfriend but he was
like this is his ugly couple and
whatever and they were just talking
he wanted to know he was having sex
and he's like I got to start having sex
and I realized he didn't have a pregnancy scare
this ugly guy just was talking about like
I realized I could get my girlfriend
pregnant and oh maybe I'm wrong about abortion
so not only are you just describing
your disgusting sex acts
you're you know you're the worst couple
I've ever seen but you know now
it's like you also have no integrity
that's great
I mean people can change their mind
but like
to use that in a speech class
to use that as some kind of like
you know this is one of those classes
where you're trying to make a persuasive point
and this kid's just like
my ugly girlfriend I realized
I can put a baby inside
this can't stand
this baby
so you know it's one of these kids
so these kids have
I'm not going to make the case
that these kids are like actually
pro-life believers
that just kind of you know 16
they probably
something I told them
I come to the march instead of going to school for the day.
And I'm like, yeah, sure.
We're just, you know, rat-faced kids.
What are we going to do?
Fuck it.
Probably, you know, the middle is probably grab a tit out there.
Yeah, because they're just fucking horny kids.
They're probably hoping there's just some fucking girls in the march
that they can fucking tick grab.
I don't know what they're into.
And, like, you know, I don't, the big picture that comes on
is this fucking kid facing an Indian, Native American, sorry,
Dave American.
And, uh, beating the drum in his face.
and he's just staring him down
and
I guess
supposedly they're mocking the Native American
and there's some of them were
some of them were jumping a little bit
look the kid is very hateable
I mean that's one thing people keep talking about
this kid they want all this kid's so punchable
this kid's disgusting
and yeah look I see the kid
initially you want to kick this kid in the face
sure he's got a shit fucking grin
he's just kind of got this rat face
fucking
mugness here's the thing i think all boys in high school are very punchable and i feel like i could
take any of them um it might be a controversial point i mean the most athletic shape i'm not a train
fighter but i feel like i mean i look something there's something about being a high school boy
versus like a 20 25 to 28 when you hit your physical kind of prime and you just come like we
took old man's strength back in the day
I mean I feel like at this stage of my life
I could take high school era LeBron James
which I don't think is true in my head
but I'm like I just can't see a high school kid
I mean he's probably like six eight
and you know at that point 225
220 or muscle
I mean look it doesn't seem realistic
but I feel like I at least
grapple the kid to the ground
young LeBron I mean now
I would not take current LeBron, of course.
I'm not an idiot.
But, you know, something about, or like a young, young Tom Brady, you know,
or young, who is that tall pitcher that they called the big unit?
Randy Johnson, I feel like I could take him in high school.
Any boy in high school, I feel like I could take right now.
I don't, I can never fear one of these kids.
And initially, off the bat, even if we land on this kid is disrespecting a Native American
and it's disgusting
which is like I'm not against that
you know analysis of it on the surface
and I'm not trying to go too deep
I'm not trying to be the knee jerk
what about the real story here
maybe he had a reason for being great
no I'm just saying
can we not pretend
like he was intimidating this name
this Native American guy
I don't want to take away from this Native American
this guy was a fucking
he's a little older
he's probably 50 60
probably 60 I'd say
I feel like he was smoked this kid
so I don't want to hear this kid was like
intimidating his native American.
That's more disrespectful than anything else I'm going to hear is that some
people are alleging he was like intimidated, he's grilling the Native American.
You shouldn't be grilling him anyway, but let's not pretend like a Native American guy
I was afraid of this fucking rat-faced 16-year-old kid, all right?
He's not.
This guy would wallop him.
He'd fucking put him in a fucking, you know, chokehold, maybe give him, you know, give him a
fucking sock in the nose.
I'm sorry, I'm on a rolling chair in a little.
office and it's just rolling everywhere this is not great trying to make a point here the point
is no one's afraid of this kid so like you know look even the kid had a gun i feel like the
american guy would have like a massage agent so you know whatever that's just one element of it
but yeah the kid was shitty some people people like look at the footage your raw footage
i watch the raw footage it's not totally clear it does seem like the these these black gentlemen
they call the black Israelites, I think it was their
official term, but it's the term
the people are using.
We're harassing the kids.
I don't particularly blame them.
These kids look harassable, but
they're getting a little harassed.
And I think the Native American guy
supposedly got
in the middle to sort of
like just
to kind of dissipate the
tension between the two
you know, these Christian
abortion abolition
this we want to call them and the black Israelites.
And so, like, did the kids maybe not, you know,
infiltrate the Native American side and start attacking it?
Because there was a Native American march too.
There's so many marches.
It feels like, first of all,
I don't know who the city planner is.
Who's, like, planning all these.
You have to give, like, permits to these marches, don't you?
Maybe don't, like, stack them up right next to each other.
I know the national malls in high demand,
but, I mean, there's only so many days in a year.
But maybe, I mean, maybe this could have been just, you know,
better planned.
I mean, I don't think anyone can just, I don't think any group can just randomly show up at the Washington, the Lincoln Memorial, and just start, you know, protest.
I think you need to kind of apply for a permit or something.
So maybe that's something we can look at.
Here's the bigger picture.
Who gives a shit?
Like, no one's really asking that.
I hear people making points and counter points about, like, well, you know the whole story about these kids and what did they do?
And, like, you know, were they really?
trying to be disrespectful. I mean, the kids, why is a kid wearing a maga hat?
What does any of this actually matter?
It's a 16-year-old rat-faced fucking kid wearing a maga hat
at a fucking abortion, anti-abortioner.
So he acted shitty?
Who gives it?
Even if he's like, even if he was saying the N-word, which is terrible, it's like,
how is this part of a national conversation?
Like, this guy, like, not everything is a symbol.
Not everything is a relevant symbol to, like, our lives.
Like, this is not something we need to fight over what this shitty kid did.
And you could argue, well, he feels in this climate, this and that, you know, like, I mean, if you look at the, it doesn't look like they were going around targeting groups to do this in the, you know, this is something that happened.
Some shitty kid made of a fucking stupid thing.
Was he emboldened by the error of, uh, shitty kids are shitty kids, all right?
I mean, you're going to get into situations
where you're just acting like an asshole
and like, is this racist?
Sure, it's racist.
But why is that part of the national conversation?
This is like one kid
or a group of kids being a bunch of fucking
just animals.
And like, you know, maybe they're being attacked
by other people verbally.
And like, you know, doesn't excuse anything.
It's more just like it's just,
I don't know what bearing this has
on us like we are having a narrative pushed on us and then i feel like this is the bigger conversation
needs to be talked about people you need to be more resilient and more resistant
a point of view being pushed on you now at the point of view a paradigm being pushed on you
where like one where you're going to pick a side what side you have on this i don't have a side
on this fucking rat face kid no offense to the kid if you didn't
doing him I mean I shouldn't be judging him on his rat face but you know you have a little bit of
rat face he should know he has a rat face like this is sad it'll just say for a sake of argument
he didn't do anything wrong it would be sad that we're attacking the kid based on his rat's face
but I mean he does need to know going forward until he maybe goes into his face that might happen
but for now you got a rat face kid so adjust your attitude accordingly know that you look smug
if you didn't mean to look smug it's possible there was some kids I remember that in that scared
straight documentary there was that kid back in the 70s that kid who was like you know
the prison guy was young and why are you laughing at me and he's like I'm not laughing and the
guy like 20 years later was saying I just had a smirk a nervous tick and he thought I was laughing
that happens with these kids these kids are terrible like high school boys I want to punch all
of them so I understand but you know whatever but the point is this shouldn't be you should
be resilient resistant to the paradigm of like what what you're gonna someone's trying to get you
into a conversation into a into a fucking you know decision point about like where you stand
this is an agenda and like it doesn't matter what side of the agenda it's on it's not about like
resist the republicans trying to push you or resist the liberals resist it at all resist the artificial
conflict that's being pushed on you're not real conflict I'm not trying to dissipate the
conflict of Trump versus not Trump or liberals versus Republicans or Democrat, you know, whatever.
I mean, I'm not trying to say that there is no, you know, actual battleground of ideas going
on. But you have to be resistant of these flashpoints, which basically amount to these like
photojournal, like the equivalent of photojournalism, you know, in a, or like, the cultural
meme that they are. It's like, it's like these, this is why don't trust photojournalism in
general. People have always talked about, and I'm a photographer, but, you know, trade, maybe not at the
moment, but I, you know, I did my time doing, you know, wedding photography, but also, you know,
but not just, you know, posing people and shit, but full journalistic weather photography. It's a
genre. And, you know, I, I, I, other sorts of editorial photography where you kind of, you know,
I, I know what it's like to capture people's expressions and capture, you know, emotions.
I worked at a camera store for years. So I know, these,
guys would come in and take pictures. I remember this guy came in and showed me this picture he took
of an acidic Jew walking down the street. And that was never the guy who was the asshole going
like, hey, your shot's not composed well or like, you know, this or it's blurry. But it was just like
a completely out of focus shot. I just reflexively, I'm like, it's out of focus. He's like,
what doesn't matter? It captured something. I'm like, what did you capture? He's like,
oh, of course, this feeling of like, people think you, like, if you isolate a moment, because
yeah, if you isolate, this picture, the guy looked.
I don't know, solemn or reflective?
Here's the point.
I've done plenty of times myself in pictures.
You, you, you capture a moment
and you feel like you're capturing
the truth in a moment, some
larger truth.
And doing enough, I really realized
when you actually do it is you're just
creating bullshit
out of thin air. Because, look,
if you're, the human,
the typical film frame, for instance, just 24
frames a second, right?
So you have 24 segments of
second to isolate any given time if you were you know if you you capture some like these split second
moments anyone can look solemn anyone can look like an asshole that's why a lot of times people just
have weird expressions on their face in pictures because the photographer sucks and can't you know
they're doing in the in the opposite way you know we just you're not you're capturing the weird
moment where that face was gyrated in a terrible way and the person didn't look like that but in the
same way you do that in a positive way where you capture this moment where this fucking the best man
a wedding where like you know if you
were watching the whole day he's just
drunk and like you know grabbing ass
and doing coke with his
with the groom and like you know
and yelling racial epitats but you catch that
one moment where he's looking at the bride and the
groom and he's on the altar and he looks like he's
just got a solemn look of like there's
couple I have so much love in my
heart and it's a beautiful moment
and it's this bullshit it doesn't exist
you made something I have nothing
you create this artificial narrative
you know it's this
cackling, you know, bridesmaids,
this fat bridesmaid who squeezed herself
into her dress because she couldn't stop beating the
hoagies. I mean, the hoagies Long Island,
it can be good, so I don't blame her, but she's
squawking. You get that picture
with that right angle with the fucking flowers and the
light coming through the stained glass, and it's just
this is a beautiful moment.
She's squawking, right? She smells
like salami half the day. She won't start
beating salami, and you're trying to take pictures.
We're trying to do the family picture with the bridesmaids
and she's just eating salami.
put this army down
but this moment
you call it this moment
when she looks like solemn
and sweet
just beautiful
is what love is all about
and family coming
it's bullshit you've caught
bullshit in a bottle
and now you put it into an album
and you're sold with the people
and the same thing is true
of the most of this full journalism
you've seen throughout history I think
I mean I
some of it is totally true
I mean these Eorijima pictures
where like they were fucking
putting the flag up on the hill
I mean, the whole movie about that.
The one of Kleene's where it was all staged.
They staged the fucking things.
And what about this fucking...
Like, they're digging with a Kent State.
I mean, I may be getting this...
It may be confusing the universities.
But that picture in the 60s with the National Guard guys
with the rifles and they're putting their fucking...
The hippies putting the flour into the rifle.
And it's like, oh, this is such a...
A vocative, beautiful moment.
A real telling moment.
A real, you know, a contrast of...
forces at play
What is that telling you?
First of all, can we not pretend
I feel like
I'm talking to children my whole life
Can we stop being children
And just acknowledge we all know
In this stage we all know
That hippie knew the cameras there
He knew the fucking cameras
They know he's being watched
He knows it's a good photo op
You think he's just doing that to do it
He's doing it to be seen doing it
Which is like if a take away from it
Yes, it takes away from it.
It's a performance, all right?
The nature, the whole fucking uncertainty principle or whatever the fuck, the Heisenberg thing, whatever the fuck is called.
You look at something, the looking changes it.
And it's not just that.
I mean, that's just one thing.
In this case, you look at something, and someone knows you're looking, and they're doing something different.
So, yeah, you're not capturing it.
You're capturing this artificial fucking, oh, it tells a bigger truth, though.
No, it doesn't.
you know what tells bigger truths words you know a fucking descriptive paragraph would tell a bigger
truth about what the fuck i'm supposed to take away from this it's nice don't get i get the
subtext and i get you put the fucking thing in the foreground and the other thing in the background
and one of them's blurry one of them's not and you juxtaposition we love to use juxtaposition
the juxtaposition of two things if you're not familiar with the german term juxtaposition
it's just you take a
It's Banksy or whatever
It's just fucking
You take a trash can
You know
A junkyard
And you put a little
You get a picture of a flower
In the foreround
And it looks at a juxtaposition
The two things
It's the simplest form of art
And all those juxtapose
These two things
All right what's that mean
Well you've
You've put these two things together
That you know
They have a contrasting visual
You know sense
In this case
In this Native American
This kid
face kid and a solemn face Native American.
It's a juxtaposition.
I mean, this is a video.
And look,
what do I know about the Native American guy?
Does he have pure intentions?
I guess it doesn't matter.
Don't be a rat-faced kid to the guy.
But also, like, I mean,
you don't be a rat-faced kid.
But in the day, like,
but what am I learning from this?
That some kid was a rat-faced kid.
And then, like, and then what?
What are we building off of this?
We know half the country
doesn't agree with us
whoever we are
unless you don't have any opinion
but if you have one of the two major opinions
half the country doesn't agree with you
all right so we hate each other
you mean you only do false equivalencies
but the end of the day
most people on either side
are not
you might be on the right side
but the odds are a lot of people
don't really have the appropriate
appreciation of all the facts
all the permutations to really be
smug about anything there's a lot of smugness in this country and just because you might happen
to be on what would be the right side or wrong side doesn't give you the right to be smug okay
doesn't give you the right to just fucking act superior because you happen to have you know and
especially the age of trump because you can make the argument like oh Trump is such an abhorrent
outlier that you know to intend to not agree with him or to agree with him is such a bold
departure from a cultural norm, whatever the fuck you would make the case.
I can totally sympathize at that point.
But also, it's such a fucking obvious point.
There's no, to be smug, you should be asking a larger question about why when this guy is
acting the way he's acting, which I agree is important.
And I agree, I think he's racist.
And I think a lot of, you know, these policies are terrible.
And I think they're basically, you know, they can be aptly described as neo-fascist.
necessarily everything he stands for or everything republicans yeah that's that's more
accurate let's say everything republican stands for is inherently fascist but trump is acting
in a what you would call and not just him but you know in a global sense we're seeing this
phenomenon this neo-fascist kind of style of you know basically using you know aggressive
rhetoric using other you know using the other in this case our cases immigrants and a lot of
world is immigrants but in passive Jews and in Germany and uh
fascist Italy they had the
communists I guess but you know the point is
these are tactics it's more
it's the tactics being used
and yeah some of it the policies and I don't agree with the
Republican Party in general
but to look at and this phenomenon
and not to ask yourself
why is this happening
to immediately just look and go wow they must just be all
racist and evil
it's just
it's unproductive and I'm not saying like we should
like you you fucking handhold
people and like you know who
who are fucking acting like scum but you have to look at where this came from like people are
basically they're not that great people are not that remarkable you have people who rise above
their position for sure i mean great people who are history is why they're great people and you're
people who you know moderately do it but to a lot of people they basically giving a certain set of
stimuli will act a certain way it's just kind of we're not you know we're not completely you know
animals devoid of free will
but we're also not
you know
this is not some kind of
you know
Athenian
you know
court where we just
they have courts in Athenia
I don't know
this is not some
we're not the remarkable people
we're not the fucking
you know we're the great citizens
of America
and we're all debating the points
and having this great debate
no I mean we're basically
animals and we're easily programmed
I mean and our programming
has been you know
at least for a hundred years
years now about. You know, with guys like Edward Bernays, who was the founder of, you know,
what we call public relations. He was the, it was a nephew of Sigmund Freud.
I mean, some people like the shit on Sigmund Freud or kind of, you know, ah, he was a kook
who just talking about, you know, fucking your mother or, you know, just all you do all his
cocaine. Yeah, yeah, he was, there's a lot of weird shit with Freud, but I mean, most of his
stuff, most of his, what you call it, teachings, his theories, they were put into practice
by his nephew, Edward Bernays,
who pioneered the
public relations industry,
which is not just,
you know, not just for selling products, it wasn't for
selling wars and selling policy, you know,
they've been doing this for years now.
They know how malleable we are.
I mean, he wrote a book called
propaganda. And then back then it was like
not this dirty word that we,
it might not have been the most
clean word, but it was kind of
the scene as just kind of, propaganda
was the, uh,
the art of
you know kind of persuading or manipulating the public
and it wasn't seen as that
crazy back then I guess I mean honestly it's like
it shouldn't be seen as that crazy now
it's done all the time
we get somehow acting with propaganda is alien to us
when like we do it constantly
but I mean the argument
was basically made you know
if you have a free society
the way we're supposed you know America supposedly
has a free society and you just allowed
the people to just have
their uh their whims
or whatever, you know, people just
unmoified, unchecked,
have their representative forces at play.
You know, you have chaos in society.
You need to have a two-party system
and basically have choices to be limited
and have the scope of, you know,
the scope of debate be limited.
And, you know, look, from a practical point of view,
it's probably, you know,
you can probably agree with that to a certain extent.
There's probably some logic to that.
But, you know, that's really not a view of humanity
inspires any hope and you know at the end of the day
I might sound cynical but the last
hope I have is that people yeah maybe we can
rise above our basic
binary animal state
and not you know but
that's the thing if unless we do rise above it
then they're right they're right
they win so
it's just the same way
I've always said when you see
someone when you see a fucking
event happen and then people start
going we should you know we should start
going to war over this
some 9-11
type thing happens some fucking attack uh and people talk on well we should go to war or you know
just the initial it's not that the thing is fake you don't go to immediate Alex Jones mode
and go this is fake and bullshit and try to make a conspiracy theory but you put it into a mode
of like well who's benefiting why am i being asked to to believe this to act on this
you know you when when when when you're giving a binary like this in this case isn't this is not a war thing but this is a case where you have like a binary we have a you're basically being fed this kind of like us versus them narrative on something that doesn't matter to anyone but the people involved i mean is it applicable in some like you know if you're in a philosophy class maybe but really it's an irrelevant story this this is them trying to capture the media
trying to capture a flashpoint and you know and have this moment where like it really summed up
whatever the tensions were at the time you know of this country in this country and it's bullshit
I'm not saying the kid wasn't wrong or his kids weren't wrong but you know doesn't matter
that's the thing it's the larger why is this the larger question of society I mean maybe
it's just maybe it's an escapeable part of the technology of it all the social media thing like
You know, maybe it's just...
I mean, I don't want to be the Luddite guy saying, you know,
the Internet kind of ruins society.
I always kind of scoffed the idea of it in years before,
but it really does seem like the Internet has kind of ruined everything.
Not in everything.
I like the fact I can go on YouTube and watch cool videos about video games and medieval armor.
And all these things I didn't even know I cared about.
You know, like, oh, look, I was just watching a video about what peasants ate?
the middle ages and it's like apparently the darker the bread the poorer you were because you know
and like you know because the rich only rich people get their uh their bread with their with the
flower bleached or whatever disguised as skies the word whatever you whatever you used to
clean the barley the outer barley off the barley these are interesting facts and like i love
having them available to me but then you look at the arab spring and they go that wasn't as
great maybe there was no answer
because the answer is like you know the answer is always something like well maybe the government should figure out some way to fucking you know contain this and that's also like i mean not to be this guy who fears the government but that
a let's not act like they don't want to at the end there isn't a thing called the nsa that basically wants to you know control all information flow the CIA doesn't also spy nonce people and you know use propaganda against us and try to you know let's not be naive
children. I mean, this idea that, like, you know, you're a kook if you think that, you know,
and this is this horseshit, but also not everything's conspiracy. Some of it is just, you know,
the practical realities of living in a weird democracy in the 21st century. It's a little bit
of both. But the reality is, like, even if they were going to do it, they're just not
that good at it. I mean, the one thing, I'll give a lot of leeway to people who argue against
conspiracy theory sometimes, like, because I get the instinct. I mean, there is a fetishizing
of scepticalness
with conspiracies
that people do
but I get the instinct
and not
especially when you see
something like
fucking Pizza Gate
or like
Alex Jones
with the Sandy Hook shit
where like
people just
the unformed
idiots are just
you know
chomping at the bit
but like you know
as reasonable
as you want to be
the echo chamber
of psychopaths listening
to you might
you know
take the ball
and run with it
and in the case of Alex Jones
he's not exactly
to be reasonable
to begin with
so I
get that you don't want to be a part of that and you see the dangers of that it's it's complicated
but same time this is fetishizing of like you know people want to lump in the conspiracy with
like any kind of anti-government thought and the idea that you would question the government's
ability to regulate things i'm not saying that i'm against regulation but let's not pretend
if they're good at it either all right maybe the EPA yeah it's probably better they're there
I'm sure those regulations.
It also depends on the field.
They're probably better at environmental regulations.
But, you know, financial regulations.
They're not good at all at that.
I mean, a lot of what they've done, you know, for instance, with the bonds, the bond agencies, the rating agencies.
You know, just a small kernel of it.
You know, the fact that, you know, they really weren't that prevalent.
They didn't have that much power until, I guess, Congress, you know, basically enacted legislation.
or maybe it was the SEC.
I'm not sure exactly how it went down,
but they're basically saying that, you know,
pension funds couldn't invest in bonds
unless they had AAA rating,
which makes sense on service
because you have people's pensions and retirements in your hands.
You can't go betting them, you know,
the farm on some fucking risky investment.
You want to keep it, you know, something sound.
And, you know, makes sense, sure.
But then what you basically did
was create a college industry
where these rating agencies,
because you just have to do your research, right?
You said, like, you know,
when you're an investor,
You just have to like kind of look at what was actually the reasonable safety of an investment and the soundness of it.
And now when you go, you either buy AAA or don't buy anything.
So AAA becomes this fucking binary situation where it's like, well, if it has AAA, we can buy it.
So now you've removed that level of implied, you know, self-disciplined research.
you're going to give something and you're just fucking now it's either it's triple a or not and so basically
you gave the power of these rating agencies to eventually become rating shops where like you know as
they were under financial pressure because they also they went public and they were had their own
bottom lines to worry about I think that happened around you know the time of the mortgage you know
the mortgage boom so you know of course they're going to you know start to fucking just give
shitty investments triple A and like and therefore like you know
The more you kind of molly-collo people,
the less they're going to be skeptical going to be.
It's just kind of an inherent thing.
It's not to say that, like, regulation makes people stupid.
Like, you don't take anything to the extreme.
But these tendencies are at play, right?
So, like, yeah, the government's not great at regulating shit.
And, like, to say that, it's not to say that you're, like,
some Republican who's anti-regulation
or some libertarian Coke brother, you know, cuck.
Some Coke, Coke, Cuck.
Can we start that term, the Coke cuck?
I guess the Coke's,
really aren't in the news that much anymore they're not really a big that would be great though
to do the coke cuck back in the day not the river off the trump cuck thing and that's chris
stanley's thing shout to chris stanley from my society radio uh but yeah he used to do that thing
but uh coke cuck that would have been fun hard to say for me at least but whatever we're moving
the point is i don't know where we go i'm not a guy saying regulate the internet to the point
where we can't revolt or anything but that seems to be where we're going the kid had a shitty
But I want to punch all kids.
Well, not all kids.
Let's just say, you know, boys from the age of 12 to 16 or 18, they're all punchable to me.
And I think, you know, what might stand here is the most controversial thing I said is I could take high school to Bron James in the fight or high school Tom Brady or high school big unit Randy Jackson.
Yeah.
I stand by it.
I'll take my lumps.
If I can go back in time and fight them, I would.
And I'll take my lumps if I lose.
but I feel like I'm just not going to ever fear a high school boy and I don't think
that Native American guy did either so let's stop pretending that he did um we can say a lot well
everything else you know they should there's disrespectful disgraceful but don't act like he was
afraid of him that guy would wipe the floor with that fucking kid and all four of his friends
all right so let's remember that that kid not taking that guy uh Venezuela we're moving on
this is bad shit critical
I just want to spend a minute
so Venezuela
got Maduro in power there
I'll be honest I'm not the most informed guy about
Venezuela it seems to have always
been pretty you know
if you're Oliver Stone you love Chavez
Chavez apparently was a great
a great savior
I mean here's the problem
we did so much fucking around
down there in the Cold War
and then you know for years afterwards
destroying these countries
that's the big problem with his immigration
shit. A lot of these
this fucking, the rise
of these gangs that are pushing a lot of these
people to migrate out of Central
America comes from us shipping
like MS-13 guys
at some point back to like these countries because
they were like from El Salvador but like they hadn't
been there in like a decade or two
I'm not even sure they were born there
and was shipping these people back and then
you're surprised they take over the country
and they made the country of war zone
and this is the same kind of thinking that goes with like
you know I don't know how much we
in Venezuela in particular, but
the general tone of the Cold War
you know
it wasn't great. We did a lot of damage
down there and so
I mean my point is
when Oliver Stone makes him video
his little documentary about Chavez
I guess I guess where he's coming from because you see
how much shit we're doing all over the place
and Chavez probably wasn't as evil as we
made him out to be but I guess Maduro guy
I think he's even worse I think they've been going through
like crazy inflation
point is
so this
the opposition guy
fucking calls
a day of protests where all the opposition
kind of unified behind him
and then Trump or his administration
basically well definitely Trump came out
and like
acknowledged him as the interim president
this fucking guy called
which is like look
when are we going to learn
I don't know where we get the power
to decide whose people's leaders are
where we can just in polite society
say we're looking for
regime change in this country
when did that become
like how is that now that like how are
we pretending that we're a
republic and then we're kind of as we believe
in the democratic
whatever you know state of
operations and now we're going to
fucking just openly we just all the time we call
out people go we're looking for regime change
in this country how is like
how is that fit with diplomacy
it doesn't like you
basically if we
were that's the thing
we are always looking for
a war footing. We may be in between wars
any given time, but we're always up
for a war, and we're always up
for limiting the options
in the overall
aim of getting to
a war. Again, how does
actually manifest? Is Trump actually
trying to get into a war of Venezuela?
No, I don't know. Maybe, maybe not, but the idea
is that we don't seem
as a country to value diplomacy.
The value, what is you having for a while?
we we kind of
especially in Republican administrations
but also I mean like honestly like you know
if you remember you know
Clinton
um
Hillary Hillary was
you know
Obama they all had a hard on
for Russia
I mean
one of them one of those Democratic guys
came out pretty early on with a hard on
for Iran or a fucking
they're always kind of hard on for someone
like they won't
even if it's just that you're trying to like
posture yourself to not look weak
But, you know, at the end of the day, if everyone's trying not to look weak, what do you have?
You have a bunch of fucking, you know, alpha cucks, you know, just putting, selling weapons to each other.
That's what you have.
So my point is, I don't know what the value of, I mean, are we really thinking that, like, you know,
because basically the guy pushed all the diplomats out of Venezuela, which is good, because, you know,
I guess, you know, where do our spies work?
Do they work at the embassy?
they do they work at the embassy so yeah we've gotten a little of our spies out of the country
at least a lot of the bulk of them i'm sure it's a few guys left but i mean your your genius move
has pushed in the time of turmoil all of the spies out of the country no one see the problem
with that i mean they wouldn't think i mean it was kind of foreseeable to me that if you start
calling for if you start calling this this guy who was calling for a day of protest the interim
president of Venezuela that he might push the you know the diplomats out of the
country along with because what do you think spies work you know you maybe don't know
spies the CIA tend to unless they're like kind of very specialized people and there's also
sort of exceptions but generally the CIA they're they're all working as dip with diplomatic cover
they're all half the guy I mean a certain amount of guys at the state department in the embassy of
any given country working the CIA and they have like their own little floor in the
the embassy because the CIA station and they have a day of a day job for the state department they
do and they have two jobs and basically and then they also do their CIA shit where they were you know
recruit people and they blackmail people and hey we got a picture of you fucking some of the guy's
wife and you better to betray your country I mean let's not perfect they're not good people but
they're gathering information at least it's a job that probably needs to be done not the way they're
doing it but you know we need some information and point is you got really you guys
Now you don't have that.
Now you've lost a big chunk of your, you know,
intelligence infrastructure because you wanted to go on Twitter and it's not just
Trumping Trump.
This is a really clumsy case of it.
But, I mean, we do it all the time.
I think you, your Bush do it.
You even hear Obama talk about regime change.
I forget who.
Don't call it.
I think in Syria they were talking about that with Assad, right?
I could be wrong.
I'm pretty sure he called for it too.
It's just, look, you know, you.
You either, you negotiate, you don't.
I mean, look, yeah, would you call for regime change with Hitler?
I guess, but, like, you're not going to get it by calling for it.
We think you're going to, like, emboldened the fucking people.
Yeah, you emboldened people to revolt against their people.
You start attacking the country.
And if you want the fucking the French rebel, the French resistance to start attacking Vichy France,
you start bombing Normandy.
I'm sure there was probably no bigger boon for the French resistance than the,
invasion of normandy because like us we're actually doing this because every other time we do this
we seem to get people killed the fucking bay of pigs yeah like that was calling for regime change
that was calling for fucking hey yeah get these uh anti Castro you on a castra yeah we'll support
you in the last minute we pull out I mean it's complicated you know Kennedy and Trump and they
end up killing Kennedy over it but that's not the point the point is you know why we we we
is no clean sweep
these are not going to be I don't even know what the
politics are here but the point is
it's just can we just not
meddle so much if you're going to metal
do it but don't fuck this
this meddling nonsense
I don't know
I just don't uh I don't get it
I feel like I'm advocating for the CIA
right now it's not what I'm trying to do
but I'm sure they'd agree with me
they're ass out
and that's part of the thing that happened with the
fucking Iranian thing back in
70s. I mean, it wasn't the same
exact situation, but, you know, because of the
church, was it church commissions or whatever? What were the post-Waragate
commissions were that investigated the plumbers and shit?
If I can, came out and they were all these
like restrictions for the intelligence agencies, the CIA,
and they weren't able to do the same kind of shit overseas,
and they were a little bit hobbled. So they didn't know when the
fucking revolution was happening, that happened. And it was kind of
a part of the issue there. So I mean, in a similar vein,
have this we have a fucking situation where you know who knows what we're gonna miss now i mean but uh it
probably have good to have a few guys behind the scenes there you know blackmailing people but
also maybe gathering some intel yeah you know hey general i hear you have a gambling problem
are you gonna help me with that no we're gonna fuck you better fucking pay up or we're gonna like
you know take a picture of your wife's tit and mail it to the president i'm not sure how it works
i wouldn't be a great spy but i didn't provide i'd be decent at it a lot of it just seems to be
sexual blackmail and, like, you know, buying people hookers, but, uh, but they're not in the country
anymore. So that's, I don't know. There's a, uh, we'll close. There's a story of this brain
dead woman or mentally vegetative state woman who's impregnated by a nurse. Um, it's really
terrible. Um, I don't know what to make of it. Uh, people have been asking me about a couple
people because I've worked in the morgue. I have no insight. I want people to stop getting
insight did i have insight into people fucking you know people who are either dead or don't have
you know no i we never that was very professional and all of us were and uh we didn't do it and uh
i will say you know if anyone isn't aware of the story the story the a nurse working in a facility
with a woman in a vegetative state because he impregnated her and she had a baby i'm you know
I don't tell you
I will tell you I don't know where you get out of that
I mean just try to get into a relationship
with a woman or a man and like you know
share something just cuddle with them
how what are you feeling when you do that
it can't be that good
I mean
I guess someone's you could argue someone's not in the right
mental state if they're going to do that
but the other day I mean
you just lonely like stop just
talk to someone go on to start playing chess
online and chat with the guy playing chair
a woman playing chess
not for sex but just try to meet people but go go play call of duty and meet people
not the best place to meet people but just communicate with people you don't need to
fucking animate object or around people who are not the person of vegetative states
and an adamant object you know you don't have to do that to people you shouldn't do that's a
crime and it's a crime against humanity but I mean it's also like you shouldn't feel like
you need to and I'm I'm there are probably people who could reach these people and get through
them I'm not sure about the guy I just like cut cut the shit
I would just say in general, cut the shit.
I just try to be aware when people are trying to push you into a box and just cut the shit.
And good luck to the people of Venezuela.
I hope you do get a better government.
I mean, I'm not sure if this one will be a better government, but I'll just hope it gets better there because you've had it rough for a while.
I mean, those people could use a break.
Good luck to you.
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