Kump - 40 - Kump Loses His Crown

Episode Date: July 26, 2020

Ray recounts a very recent traumatic experience which has upended his entire life, and he also talks about Michael Jordan.

Hello, and welcome to Kump. It now hurts when I breathe, which I guess you're hearing a lot now. It's the common refrain I've been locked away in quarantine for five months How do I get into this situation It's not COVID that's how I'm not stealing valor

Off COVID I have a recurrence of my Nemesis from If you've listened to this podcast before you're aware In previous episodes I have teeth But my teeth are we all have teeth most of us have have teeth but mine are uh maligned with issues i had to have two

implants done earlier this year because i had rotted teeth and uh i feel like i might have been scammed into the situation i just wanted to get my teeth pulled you tell me you can't you can't just leave them there you can't just have empty holes where teeth used to be which i thought you could I see people who, you know, smoke meth who do it all the time, and their problem doesn't seem to be that. It seems to be, you know, they don't die from the tooth gap, do they? I think they died from, like, heart attacks and strokes and hypertension and whatever. The heart explodes, their brain aneurysms.

I didn't realize they were dying because there was gaps in their teeth. But I got, you know, I got scammed, I got beat into a large amount of debt. it's fine they said six grand i don't have six grand oh here's a credit card that you i don't have good credit they'll approve you because they'll get you on the hook for teat because they know they'll just come in and bust your teeth open if you don't pay they'll break all your teeth i'll make you suck dick with no teeth or eat pussy with no teeth it's not you know specific it's not a gendered act or whatever it's not a patriarch it's Don't make you eat their mom's ass, shit all over your fucking gums, get infections in there,

get, you know, give you open sores in your mouth, make you piss all over yourself. That's not, that's not even related to the mouth, but just like they'll just put a gun to your head, go piss all over yourself, get in the bathtub, point your dick up, and piss all over your dumb fat body. Maybe they'll have some kind of little plastic umbrella that, you know, they'll put over you and go piss into the umbrella and then it gives you a nice even mist of your own piss all over your dumb body that's how they that that's who I'm borrowing money from to fix these implants and now I have more issues now I don't know what they're going to do if I if I if they somehow they'll probably extend credit for this they probably won't I don't know

will they extend credit for this will they extend credit and then I'll have to fucking fuck my ass with a with a with a with a giant dildo made out of whatever material they make dental implants out of, but it's dildo shit. Fuck your ass with this molar. If you don't pay us, we'll fucking, we'll get you.

That's what we gave it up when we, when we, but we didn't elect Bernie, I guess. He wanted to stop the dental molar dildo, um, industrial complex. And,

uh, we said, no, we like it. We're fine with our lot in life. You know, uh, Oh, do I need to replace my toot?

Well, I better pay them back or else I'll get fucked in the ass. Piss all over my fucking hair. And maybe, like, you don't have to shit into a blender. Don't mix it up with your piss and your hair. Make a shake out of it. I'll put a little milk in there probably just to make it liquidy. And they'll just grind up. Now you got to drink this.

I should work for the insurance company. I, like, that's the problem. I mean, this whole thing. Costs keep rising because we don't collect the principal from these people who borrow it. And, you know, I can get it back because I have all these cool techniques that, you know, I mean, I'm a, whatever I assume is happening, it happens 20 years later. I'm ahead of my time. But, yeah, so, you know, what's going on with my teeth? Do the implants fall out?

I still have to put the fucking things in. I've been putting off going back to the dentist because they put the implants. in right they put these stems in they do it the same day it's like you know we'll do the stems the stems of the base whatever drills into your skull into your jaw they did that that day um but you know they have to wait and see how it you know heals or fuses before they can put the actual tooth part so i've spent all this money and credit and uh i still don't have functional teeth there i should i could have done it last but i should go back i've been wary because I've been keeping isolated because of COVID but they and they we have precautions I mean

I don't know what precaution you know they'll have a gun to my head again just have a fucking sword a sword to my dick so if you cough we'll cut your dick not cut it off because the problem is it's carrot and stick you cut the dick off right away then where are you then where do you go from there you need to kind of slowly escalate it you need to establish that you're willing to do it but that you know you that you're not like you need to give them something to hold on to so you slice the dick with the sword i don't know if it's a samurai style sword or a english broadsword a european broads it's a hard thing that's for me to say a european broadsword that's a tough one that's how like if i was doing accents they would fucking do like if i was a spy

they would use that to, like, you know, draw me out so they could shoot me in a town square. They'd say the fucking password is European Brardsword. And I'd be like, you're going to put a broadsword. And they'd just gun me down like an animal pig. Like a pig animal. Right. So, um, the whole...

So the implants are not there. Uh, I don't have them yet. Um... I might get him soon. Here's the thing. Around the same time, around when I went to Toronto, this also came up, I guess.

My crown had fallen off, off, all off. My crown had fallen off. The crown, the cap. Now, I had this cap. It was a temper. Here's the thing. I'm a weird creep. Because I had dental insurance at one point

when I worked at the county. I think, you know, the Morgan, everything. And when I was leaving the county, I said, let's just get this fucking, And I like a, you know, what was it, root canal, I guess? And they put the crown. I don't know. The tooth full fell off, the top fell off.

Why these things happened? I broke my two-d-eat and a bean barita from Taco Bell. And then I had to file it down. It was all pointy in the large side view mirror of a bread truck with a metal nail file. And I stayed that way for years. It was fine. I'm not complaining. I don't know why this particular.

toot the top fell off or whatever with a root canal i i forget i forget the the sequence of events what's soft food what what fucking meat meat pies i was eating to get into the situation you know they just you know fucking putting you know eating steak and gummy worms every day you know cheap steaks and fucking those cheap dusty you know those gummy worms you get where it's like dusty it's not the Harrabo brand It's some other It's a ship brand And when you open up

It's got like a white powder Chalky Chalky gummy worm That's probably what Rott of my teeth It's eating chalky gummy worms And being fat But

But either way So they put They did this cracking Was a bridge I guess I don't know Was a bridge It's a temporary bridge It's the thing that goes

No it's a crown Because it goes on top of the one it's a cap the crowns a cap right yeah it's the cap thing the cap thing stayed on for years and then i guess i was favoring that side of the mouth which i was avoiding originally years ago probably uh because of the implant issue because those teeth were rotten so it's putting more stress on the other side i guess and caused that to get loose probably is what happened and that started falling off um but instead of well i guess i i i did when i was dealing with the implants i said hey can you take a look at this can you put this shitty cap back on they're like this is a temporary

cap but who did i don't understand who did this work and then gave you why didn't you get the full cap and it was paid for i believe i'm an idiot um my old dentist in the long island which maybe i should try to contact i don't know but is this point be kind of weird i'm like can i just go and get it well you can't he change a lot like what the fuck dude you can't you can't just like fucking put the same i think sometimes like a bridge i don't know I don't know how this word. If anyone's here's a dentist, they can reach out to me

and tell me, you know, I don't know, I was to ask my dentist, I guess. I'm crowdsourcing information. I already have a dentist who's fucking, you know, I don't know. So, throughout quarantine, at first,

in the first month, I mean, there was a period, it was around the same time, and like, where I'd have to periodically, because I got, they,

oh, here's, yeah, right, so they fucking put this fucking shit on. and they glued it back on I get home I eat a little peanut butter falls off again

that's how good job they did it seemed like good dentist but whatever this this fucking glue they use this temporary glue it held for about an hour so not great I mean it was natural peanut butter

which is pretty sticky so I guess that's part of the problem so I got some temperate Now, remember, I went with Tim to Toronto back in February. February. I always say February. It's supposed to be February.

Who says it like that? This is not the point. So I fucking, I tried to buy tempering up there. They don't have it because apparently they have universal health care, so no one needs to, like, buy, you know, semi-medical dental-grade glue in a drugstore and, like, do surgery on themselves and reapply. They just have a dentist do it.

Whatever. So I had to, you know, get it from my local right aid. And it worked decently. You know, it worked for like a week and then you put it on because you're eating a hamburger or a hot dog and it comes off again. But then I went through a period where, like, it stayed on for a few months, I feel like. It would very rarely come off and they'd reapply it and they reapplied it. And I reapplied it would sit down for a week at the time. It was great.

It was just kind of just a little jar of paste or whatever. And you just, you know, dip this little knob into it, his little mini dildo and apply and shove some of this glue in. In the past 24 to 48 hours, though, it stopped holding. And I have, I bought from Amazon subsequently a fucking, like, eight pack of these fucking little tins of this glue. And you don't go through a whole thing in one sitting. So this should have been plenty.

I had plenty to go. and I felt very comfortable having all this medical glue in my fucking drawer. I just felt like a fucking shit pig. But it was stopped holding. I'd be eating nothing crazy. I wasn't eating, you know, like saltwater taffy. It's not, you know, wasn't eating fucking, you know, peanut brittle. Just, you know, regular foods and just kind of come out randomly.

So, I guess. I don't know. I should I have been more careful, sure. I made last night some loose meat hamburgers and some frozen French fries. I have a nice meal for dinner. Again, these aren't, it's loose meat. I'm not, I'm not chomping off a steak burger. It's not one of those things where it's like a steak sandwich, but it's too tough,

and I'm back into it. It's loose. It's loose meat. I can't even, I'm beside myself. but you know because there's been plenty of times you know when you're eating and the cap comes off and it's in the food and you feel it happen and uh you have to like region to your mouth and you know you got washed the food out of this fucking thing and brush the part that you're putting it back onto there's food's there now and uh but this time i didn't feel it i guess and i swallowed

the crown i think i mean it had to have because it's gone i realized after i was done eating my crown is gone that's odd um i've heard people say i swallowed a crowd you know and it shows so i guess it might be a trope so i wasn't too nervous as far as like what happens when you swallow it to people swallow teeth right i mean i'm sure it's fine uh i say lucy i'm like i think i swallow my crown and she Googles it and i'm like yeah what are they saying what's the deal is it's fine like i mean it's not fine but you you know, because I need to get the fucking crown. I'm asking the dentist, and he's like,

well, if you just redid the whole thing, he's like, it's 15-hunge, probably. So it's like, uh, even though, like, I should do it anyway, it's still, like, I wasn't going to, so, now it's going to be 15-h-uh. So, like, what, what are they saying on the Google, Lucy?

Should I, should I bring this up? Should I, you know, try and throw this up? And she's like, that's, they're saying that's one of the options. So I get the, uh, And I hate throwing up. I just had a nice meal, a nice hamburger meal, some fries. It was a nice, it was a Saturday night. We're going to have some drinks, watch a movie.

It was going to be nice. And I just know, like, when you start, look, usually when you throw up, if you're not bulimic, and, you know, I'm, I've dabbled with, you know, the idea of doing bulimia, but I haven't committed yet. You know, if keto doesn't work out eventually, maybe I'll go through this route. but uh you know usually when you throw up it's because you're sick it's like the first in you know inkling of like oh i'm fucked for a day or two or whatever a week but you know i've done before where you throw up like you know you'd be drinking and it's like 5 a m you come

like home for a friend's house well i'm trying to think yeah you're i mean i'm not even drinking just coming home a 5 am from a friend's house because i'm you know disgusting animal and going away Castle is my point um you know it's one thing to go drunk everyone's like this pop pile through drive-thru it's another thing to go sober at 5 a.m. through a white castle drive-thru i mean it's not really made for sober eating it's it's made to be greased by this alcohol you know both literally and you know figuratively um but i'm just there sober after have been watched a bunch of anime perhaps or you know whatever i'm an anime kid but you know

it wasn't i wasn't getting fucking laid for 12 hours and then eating White Castle. It wasn't a sex romp and then like, oh, let me get some jalapeno sliders. But yeah, so point is when you get home after eating a bunch of White Castle and you're like, why'd they do that? I feel like shit now. I'm going to feel like much more shit because White Castle is a kind of place where you taste great, but, you know, I remember doing it, you know, in the Comac White Castle.

And by the time I got in the Sacti Coast Parkway, which was, you know, right there, uh it felt like knives in my fucking gut so um you throw it up on purpose just because you know it's gonna like fucking the indigestion is gonna be immense and then um it's just not if you get that burn you get the acid you know up your up your throat it's whatever it is what it is but it's like my point is it's not gonna be a nice night if you start throwing up like you know which i was going to have to do and uh so you know it's just like ugh this is going to suck so but you know i mean i'm going to leave it there and then not try to get it back um so i start you know i get the the the bathroom garbage um because i'm not there's one thing to throw up into a toilet but

you know it's not just that you know if you imagine this scenario or what happens after you throw up is to go sifting through yeah so i you know you know I can't just throw up into the toilet so I get the garbage can from the bathroom and I put a bag, an empty bag in it, and I start jamming my finger down my throat, you know, whatever. I'm vomiting into a trash can and then having the fucking search for treasure, let's just say. At one point, I got a calendar in the kitchen that's trying to drink. This is disgusting, you know, but like point is, and, you know, I'm trying to. find this crown you know we need to get this treasure back you know it's an expedition and uh lo and behold

i don't find it i don't find the goddamn crown maybe i didn't throw up hard enough i mean i it was a bunch all right i don't tell you this is it's gross i know but so i'm without a crown and then go what else do they say lucy on this website that you went on and it was just like well you can wait to pass it Now, I don't know what they mean wait to pass it. Now, you know, cut to the chase, this was last night. I think I'd probably pass it. If not, I, is it possible as inside me cutting me up from the inside? I guess.

And if that's the case, you know, I'm here as long as I'm here. If I eventually bleed out from the inside because this fucking dental cap is just give me a little cuts all throughout my intestinal track going up and down. Up and down, up and down. Can things go up and down? I think they typically don't go up. but who knows i mean they go up the ass but not up the rest of you it's interesting you have all this extra room in case you're fucking a very large penis or a cock or whatever but uh your body

isn't let you use it usually if your body if it perforates the the ass part where it usually goes into that's a problem you know i've seen people fuck to death with tree branches not in and not in the act but after the fact and um it perforates the the bowels and it's a bad way to go it seems like i mean i wasn't there watching them die but i imagine it wasn't if if the evidence was on the indication it didn't seem fun um so yeah i so i i but what am i going to i'm the am i going to sift this out of my my own no that's where i draw the line all right i thought about for a minute do i just more if i boil it afterwards because i am not going to

put a thing that was in my shit into my mouth it's one thing to eat something if you had to if you're like in the woods I love how like I Who else is like I'm the only person even making that claim I can see eating something that you shit out That's totally

If you boil your own shit Then yeah I'll eat some of it Like that's I don't think I'm in a large plurality With that statement alone But no but the idea of it like just being That's my shit toot now to have a shit tooth is that what we're doing now i can't be i have more dignity than that i don't

have a ton of dignity but it's more than that it's more than having a just something that's been in part of your shit is now my tooth i can't do that i can't i mean think about how that would like permeate every part of your life going forward just knowing every time you open your mouth you're wondering if they smell it they see it they just sense it there's a darkness. I remember I ate brain once, calf brain, at a place in Astoria that was supposed to be good. It was, you know, it was an episode of Bourdain's show, and the Andrew Zimmer guy was on it, and they went

to this place in Astoria where they served all these, you know, strange, awful. And then remember the quote was, you know, oh, you could really taste it thousands of years it took to make these things taste great. You know, awful doesn't taste great, but these, this is a culture. uh or cultural thing that you know they learned to you know do the you know they probably got the scraps against whoever was cooking these brains and awful it's like they learned how to make it good and it's amazing and then i don't think they did because i went there by myself and i ate

the kidneys and the sweetbreads and the fucking liver and the brain and it didn't taste like they it took like maybe it tasted like maybe he spent a month trying to make it good and didn't you know And they, not thousands of years. And it wasn't good. The kidneys tasted like piss. The sweet breads were, yeah, okay. No, no, weren't good. The liver was like just, whatever.

I don't know. Not great. I mean, I used to fucking take pictures of liver. All this stuff I took pictures of. But the liver has a weird, like, density to it. It's, you wouldn't think this looks tasty. It's kind of like, I mean, liver is.

made if you're like a tiger eating someone's ass because that's how they eat you if you mean i think most people know that in this day and age but if you don't when the lion or a tiger eats you it eats you ass first because that's where the good stuff is they want the organs because they have these teeth these fucking fangs or whatever and they should they bite they just chump on a liver i can't chomp on a liver a fresh liver is probably great it's full of nutrients and it's just ham like once you like stew it it's just not something that's like you know enjoyable it's just what i mean i'm open-minded of i like liver patte we have in the past duck liver i mean i'm sure foie gras is uh i think they have foie gras i forget i might have

tried foie gras wasn't uh whatever um so the brain is my point had a certain kind of It wasn't just that taste of bed And I'm not a superstitious I'm not a super suspicious guy I'm not a stupid guy What the fuck Someone should put a bullet in my head I'm not a superstitious guy

By any means By any stretch of the imagination I don't fucking I don't believe in astrology or ghosts Or I'm not what mine did to ghosts I'm not saying they can't exist I just don't believe anyone

I think everyone's a big fucking phony you know people who speak to the dead of course come on what are we doing here I'm gonna fucking I don't even want to get into this but I'm just not that guy but I felt the darkness come over me a ethereal darkness a taste of the underworld

as I ate this brain which doesn't really make even make sense why it would be but that's how fucking bad brain is that I felt the presence of Satan as I was eating it I felt Jesus's touch

come away from me as I had this brain in my mouth and that's what I that kind of abstraction is what I'm afraid of if I put the shit tooth cap back into my mouth

I mean beyond the fact I have to sift through it's one thing to sift through vomit and again I'm sorry I know this is not an episode of jackass I'm not trying to make a gross out comedy from the 90s I'm a Tom Green whatever but I'm saying it's one thing to sift through your own vomit

it's gross it's another thing to have to like because wait a woman gonna shit into a bucket or like I'm gonna reach into the bucket and break up my own shit like this certain people have to live this way

if I was in the siege of Leningrad I might have had to to do this or the battle of Stalingrad I might have had to do this you know the Nazis are laying siege to the city people have gone cannibal

um and something goes down my throat and I have to the next day sift through my shit to get the or my smuggler right my smuggling drugs I mean I assume to be a big payoff in that respect but it seems like

if I was to go and sift through my own feces, we're crossing a bridge here, right? We're passing through a chrysalis. We're crossing the Rubicon. It just doesn't seem like worth it. I mean, don't even wrong. It's annoying. It's going to cost a lot of them.

Because, again, I shouldn't have had to pay this in the first place. It should have to have the work done, I guess. Whatever. The point is, now I'm going to have to spend money. We don't really have. Um... you know

please you know support the Patreon I guess support the Patreon unless you want a version of Kump that sifts through his own human shit because that's where we're getting to this is not the last tooth problem I have so if you it's like a choose of your own adventure

and this was like the first taste and going forward if you want the comp that just sift through his own shit and you know and just eats brain all day I guess don't support it but you know Patreon's bad

bag up. We're fucking making episodes. Go sign up, if you like, so I can get my teeth fixed. Or not. I'm not trying to kill you. You got your own teeth to fix. I get it. I'm not a whiny bitch. Providing service. If you like the service, use it. If you don't, you know, you know, whatever. But I'm saying, I'm also giving you a choice. If you want me to eat my own shit, you can drew in action, make that happen, I guess. But for now, I've maintained some dignity. For now, I've said, not yet, sir. You want me to. put the shit cap back into my teeth and then open my mouth

and people just sense that oh an asshole is opened up an ass a gaping asshole is literally opened up mid conversation and I am experiencing and not just a smell but you know if you were talking to someone and then they bent over

and gaped their asshole even if they you know hadn't shit in three days or hadn't eaten three days the way something like porn stars prep for like deep anal prep things I've heard You know, they eat yogurt, they barely eat for a couple of days or two. They clean it. They, they, they, they, they do with anema.

Even if that was the case, if someone, mid-conversation, pull down their pants, gait, and forget any kind of sexual attraction in my head, assuming it's not sexual attraction, right? I don't need to hear about your sexual revulsion either. It's like, oh, I like tricks off a man showed me. You know, who cares? It's just an asshole. Like, you don't have to, you don't, just because you don't want to fuck someone doesn't mean you have to be sexually revulsed by their gaping asshole it's just a part of their body yeah i'm not saying go seek it out but if someone

mid-conversation pulls out their gaping asshole you shouldn't have to be like oh god i really like chicks like grow up but that being said it would uh have a certain um abstract kind of like incongruity with a positive living, I think. Just stare inside a gaping asshole. And I feel like that's, you know, possibly what would happen if I had a clean, a boiled, a sterilized, but nonetheless, shit tooth cap in my mouth.

So, you know, for now I've said no to that. For now I've put that aside, you know, whether we say to the god of shit, Not today, sir. Why am I quoting Game of Thrones? That's lame. Quoting the fucking guy in the first season of Game of Thrones.

That's what happens. That's what happens when you had my ordeal. I'm just fucking, it's not like quotes, a paraphrase. He didn't say, Game of Thrones and say, what do we say is the god of shit. Wow.

So they just took a drink, a Diet Coke, and the coldness, it stinks. It hurts. You know, it's not like, I mean, I'm not an Iraq war vet, remembering his phantom limbs, but it's something. It's not great. So it hurts when I breed a little bit sometimes.

I also, right now, I take a bunch of chloroceptic and Advil this morning because the acid, when you're throwing up, the acid comes up. It's almost acid in my throat. I have an acid burns in my throat. So, you know, but I'm still doing it. podcast because I'm a goddamn professional. But yeah, support the Patreon for that. And also you hear more episodes. I'll cover the Toot Saga.

I mean, speaking of people who overcome odds like me. I've been watching that last dance documentary. You might have heard of it. It's a 10-part documentary about Michael Jordan and the Bulls, the Chicago Bulls of the 90s. You know, it was, look, first of all, you know, I'm not. We're here to give reviews. Great doc. Very watchable. I watched it much quicker than I thought I would.

I wake up, waking up early, not on purpose, but he's waking up early like five. And I started watching. But that point is very watchable. We'll go watch. I watched in like two days. It was 10, you know, 10 hour long episode, or 45 million episodes. Um, I don't understand this thing with Michael. The people, this revision now are people going, hey, Michael was a, yeah, Michael was a son of a bitch. people bit people this generation will not produce anyone like michael lebron james is great he's no michael jordan colby was almost michael but he was because we knew he wasn't michael coby didn't like he he was trying to be like but we're not getting another fucking jor because no everyone's a fuck

no one's a cunt you need to be a cunt in this world these guys bitching that he was like and the players weren't none of the players in his team were bitching he was a beggar they were like kind of pressed into it and it's like yeah i mean he wasn't a girl like was here i guess he wasn't a great guy you know but we won that's the thing they won what happened to results oriented living what happened to like you know sacrifice oh you should be paid this and people's like to go on swear and look i i get it look caveat i don't think capitalism is inherently a predatory thing or even if it is predatory it's a kind of predatory that like pays off on the aggregate for the whole in my opinion but we have gotten to a place where

we've let it go unchecked for way too long because i don't believe in this whole lazy like infinitely lazy fare do nothing don't regulate it that's not me that's not where i'm coming from i'm not you know i'm not the guy saying yeah dump your piss and shit into this fucking child's medicine vat and sell it his medicine that can't and like and you know because the counterpoint would be well look if people start taking you feeding their children to piss and shit medicine

and then you know the babies die of dysentery they'll stop buying in medicine and so therefore you know no one's gonna buy the medicine and hang on doing it because then fucking goddamn I'm you know it was bad for business why would they do

sure I get I get the point I get the argument that it's bad for business to sell shit as medicine but that being said you know there's a lot of games to get played the scams that get played in games I mean you know and when you aggregate things to a certain extent

people start going well you know actually what you don't know about piss and shit is that people only die 2% of the time so we'll just pay those people off like shit like that needs to be addressed you can't allow the Russian roulette of capitalism to succour I mean you're gonna stop it

probably not but you try to fight it They seem to do a better job in Europe Ow This is going to be the thing from that one for a while Diet Coke Ow Excuse me

But yeah I mean people The binary is the weird thing I don't know what It's like Because everyone on Twitter I mean I should get off Twitter I should really stop reading it at least

Because it just seems like everyone responds to like oh, we've allowed, you know, unbridled predatory capitalism and just fraud. It's really more fraud than capitalism to go unchecked for decades. But, uh, so the answer is Marxist, Marxist Leninism, Marxism, Marxism, communism. I mean, I'm all for socialized health care because look what we've done. I think we've talked about that last week was like, look what we did. We got argued this is good.

This fucking predatory fucking, uh, cartels. that we've, like, encouraged to occur? No, I don't think it's a really hard to make that case. But that being said, I don't know that, you know. So, yeah, socialism for medicine, socialism, look, here's my thing. You can have safety nets. And I think even Friedrich Hayek agreed with this for certain. I mean, maybe that the whole thing, but if you look at the road to serfdom,

which I think is a great book. I mean, you know, is it 100%, it's a whole, it's a book about basically, I believe he was using the Nazis as a model, but showing how, you know, socialists, you know, at governments, even with the best intentions, collect, you know, will tend to tend towards fascism, right? That they'll tend to, you know, encourage, I haven't read the book in years,

but, you know, they encourage the more aggressive people on the outside to, like, you know, gain power that, you know, the dog the most most dogmatic people will you know whatever point is it's a good book is it 100% you know would I agree with it now totally if I read it now yeah I don't know I mean should check it out again it's been a while since I read it but the point is he's you know he's seen as like a pure capitalist and he's

you know in the forward to that book the second edition which is still you know still publishing you know 60 70 years ago it was like look I don't know we got this idea you know capitalism free market should solve the environment that can't work i mean of course there's things that the you know the market can't fix we should have environment you know environmental regulation of course like he's not even saying it like it's a fucking hey look i was wrong no he's saying like yeah did you idiots think we meant that but that's the idiocy that you know still prevails and regan and bush i mean well but no one thinks that they were even serious at all

That's the thing. No, there's free market libertarians who mean it, and I think are wrong. I mean, I think Murray Rortbant meant it. He was smart enough to see the pitfalls, but, you know, but whatever. I'm not getting to Rupert again, but I don't think he was an idiot, but I think he had a different view of whatever. But, you know, I don't think that, like, you know, Reagan and Bush were, like, free market. Like, you know, there weren't gold bugs. They weren't like, oh, really?

We need to go back to a gold standard Because, you know, the government's running haywire With the Fiat current, no, it wasn't But the point is You know, I got like, hi, I didn't believe in unchecked capitalism. So, you know,

he probably agree at this point to have a fucking health care system. I don't know, I don't know why. I don't know where it got in people's heads that, you know, We can't even get them to regulate, like, you know, derivatives properly. but we're going to get them to implement Marxism. When they're overthrowing them, it's like, well, you're not. I mean, look, you're not.

You're not the Bolsheviks. You're just not. I mean, I don't care. Like, there is violence on the streets, but it ain't overthrowing the government violence. You know, it's just not. It's just, I think it should be. But the possibility of overthrowing the government is very small. It would require, it probably has to happen later on.

We'd have to go through a much larger timeline of decay and kind of social unraveling and, you know, institutional kind of chaos and unraveling to get to the point where it might be possible. Right now, I mean, the pipeline between the military and the government and the fucking business is still pretty solid. Like, we're definitely in, like, in the early stages of dystopia. Don't get me wrong. But I feel like, you know, but that's the thing about dystopia. You know, in the movies about dystopia, you often see, you know, someone overthrowing the dystopia. But no, I mean, but, well, even in other situations, I believe, like, you know, there's been a long time where no one overthrew it.

So, you know, how big of a dystopia would it be? It's like, hey, six months ago, this fucking, you know, this new tyrant came into power. but we're going to overthrow on the order. It wouldn't inspire hope. There wouldn't be a great hero's journey that you overthrew a six-month-old tyranny. There's no pathos to that. I mean, that's the point.

These things, you know, so even if it is something we'll overthrow, I don't think the odds are that we're overthrowing him soon. I mean, you know, it's just, that's just how, I mean, it's the Russian Revolution. You got over, but again, again, it's not, we it's just not there yet you know maybe if we go to the war with china for instance because that's what happened to Russia right they went to the World War I

I mean they had problems throughout history they had um you know a lot of drafts in Russia last year goes rolling in Russia Russia just has it had it rough environmentally and just you know whatever but um you know a big proximate cause of the Russian you know the the May The May Revolution Was that You know World War I

And I guess people were getting sent there And they're getting fucked over On the back end when they came home You know what happens in wars Come on people troops never get taken care of Unless you're like elite forces Who go work for like Become private security for the guy who runs the M&M company

Who runs fucking Laffy Taffy He has six He's the CEO of Laffy Taffy He's flanked by six ex-Navy seals and Delta operators who personally murdered bin Laden and or a bunch of farmers,

go to herders, I don't know. I mean, like, sometimes they, quote, unquote, kill bin Laden, and sometimes they, quote, unquote, abducted innocent people and, you know, torture him in the CIA black side for months, quote, unquote. Do I have to do the, why is it, quote, unquote? Shouldn't it be, quote, do this, unquote?

I don't know. That's really not the point. The point is the CIA murders people. And these guys who end up getting a lot of money to end up guarding CEOs and pedophiles and priests, maybe. I'm sure some priests have black water security. But for the most part, you know, soldiers don't get, you know, troops don't get the lion's share of the benefits of war. And this was no difference. So it got an uprising.

I don't know the whole detailed history. But I do know this. Broadstrokes. There was the May Revolution, which is actually the workers overthrowing. That's why it's called May Day, I guess, right? And the farmers and whoever, I guess, again, loose understanding. I'm sorry, just a little burp. They overthrew the government somehow. But the interesting thing about that, there was no point to that.

I was like, look, I'll kind of give you the broad strokes. So they somehow overthrew the government. I guess they drove to the capital point is that the workers overthrew it in May and then again this might not be the most verified point but I it's interesting and I think it might be true definitely it might be true because this thing Lenin was in exile right the bullshit you know he was in London I think it was and he was in exile everyone knows that much that like you know the Russian government had kicked them out and uh but you know he was basically put on a sealed train car back to moscow once the

revolution happens by who by you know western capitalists he is that's the implication yeah that like you basically that you know the bolsheer because the waltzure revolution happens is october right that's the whole october revolution these two revolutions and a lot infighting and civil war i guess the white they're the whites right the russian whites not race wise it was like the white shirts, I don't know, the Cossacks that come later. Again, this is not, I'm not a history professor, but I just know, my point is that Bolshevich, you know, Lenism and Bolsheviksum came after.

It wasn't the organic thing that we think, you know, a lot of people fuse them together in their head, but you have a natural revolution, but then Western capitalism perhaps marshaled that energy and focused it in a way to serve their needs. Right. Now, why do we get in this topic? I don't know. That's how this podcast works. I speak myself. And it's kind of like, you know, you chase a, there's this thing in fiction. You chase a, in the first act, you establish the characters. The second, the second act, they get chased up a tree. And the third act is them getting back down. I never get back down. I just chased myself up a tree. The whole. way um and that's what's interesting about it everyone can come back down everyone can be Seinfeld and have some kind of dumb point at the end not point being like a little it was all tied

together isn't it more fun that's not I mean aren't you sick of a contrive because I mean look maybe because I've written a few things I find it more depressing because in order to get something to tie together it's kind of like oh you had to kind of like structure this then it implies a structure and it just takes away the kind of chaotic instead of just, you know, I point a camera at a man, you know, shitting in the street with a gun to his head. You don't know what's going to happen. That's exciting.

That's what this show is. So the Russian Revolution, you know, I don't understand why people think that they're going to get communism. Oh, we're talking about people. ability over so you know the ability to overthrow a government um yeah so i mean what's the takeaway from the russian thing i know it's like uh the point is it's not that simple it's like even when you do overthrow him who's kind of coming filling in a vacuum very very quickly it's like i don't know it's like whatever the point is it doesn't tend to work that way we need to go through

more chaos and more fucking so we're not going to overthrow him so i don't understand why we don't just fight to get because like it's not in I mean, maybe it's impossible because they'll keep moving the goalposts and they'll have to reveal themselves to be just reptiles. I mean, the rest of the world has capitalism, right? The rest of the world has, but it's moderated. I'm not saying it's perfect, but all these Scandinavians that, like, the socialists love bringing up, they have a very free market, and then they have a social safety net.

And they have, they use the market to, like, help. it's not privatizing health care but they use the fun I mean part of it is they also you know they're smarter than us on the aggregate as far as investments and they use Wall Street against itself and you know they they kind of

which I don't know if America could do on the whole we've two, our economy's too big maybe to like you know they can kind of pick up the scraps and go look at these idiots like they're doing this and we'll invest we'll short this or we'll do that I don't know again I'm not a finance guy but I feel like a small country can kind of get away with, like,

make, you know, profiting off the stupidity of a larger country. I don't think it works in reverse. But still, I feel like you can have a moderately regulated, you know, economy. I don't know why everyone in Twitter is just like, let's get rid of property and let's get rid of children. And, like, let's have children, you know, raised by a centralized robot that fucks him in the ass with candy. I think I say don't fuck them in the ass at all

what that happened later if they want it I don't know why are we trying to deconstruct the nuclear family it's like do that work in I guess but we don't live in tribes right like was a Native American life better it might have been I mean I'm not one of these guys I mean perhaps technology has ruined the joy of life even where it's helped I mean I don't know I don't you could maybe perhaps make a case look native american tribes weren't perfect but you know but

i think overall they probably had a decent i don't know i should learn more about them because i wonder how hard their lives were having people died let's just assume it's great and mostly great i can i can buy it it seems cool being part of the land hunting yeah it seems cool we have too many people we don't have the the jean the ship's out of the bottle right the genie's out of the box the jack's out of the box we can't put it back in I mean what you want you want to kill

I'm not even gonna say it you want a bunch of people again do we go back to that no no one's even I mean to be fair no one's making that claim I mean maybe you know if they were to go yeah sure why not I don't think you're evil people who'd want to commit genocide but I think they've gotten they've gotten a short end of it enough where

if I was in their shoes I go yeah sure yeah like they wouldn't he didn't bring it up if he said wait what do you want the genocide one yeah all right i mean like you guys can't even like you know stop fucking us for half a minute breaking treaties yeah i recommend jesus i mean whatever point an indifferent genocide um so i don't know but the point is we can't we can't go back to a system where it's like um living off the land in that way like you know no manic her I mean, I know there's a ton of, there's a lot of land we're not using maybe,

but I just don't think. I think it's too many people now. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I think, you know, we can't go. And also, it's like, we're not going to. We're not going to go that far back. So the point is, like, maybe parents should still raise their kids is my point. I know that sounds crazy.

I know it sounds insane to say maybe the mommy and the daddy or the mommy to mommy. No one's saying you can't have a mommy to mommy or daddy and the daddy. or them and them or whatever but you know the idea of having two parents preferably i guess i mean as they say it's better than two parents i'm not here to judge have a parent raises the point is should is that preferable to a committee you know at this point it seems like it seems like i don't here's a thing do you really trust americans it's one thing for native americans right like people who are here but you trust whatever we think of as um is it all white maybe it's all white i don't think it's all white i think there's

something happens when you come here when you immigrate here i don't know but we're definitely fat and we're definitely dumb and maybe it's mostly white but it's not like i don't know i it's something happens there's something about our culture i don't think it's just white because i think it's even though like maybe the whites are the more fatter ones and the dumber ones you know not that all what people would have done, but maybe they predominant, but still the culture that is more diffused, it's still dumb. We have a dumb culture. I think everyone takes part.

It's maybe, maybe it's capitalism, maybe, but you know, my point is, like, do you really trust America to implement a return to the roots kind of thing? Like, if we did go back to Native American, you know, tribes, we'd fuck it up so hard. We'd just be, we'd just be eating, you know, our maize. corn, too, we'd be trying to like fucking hoard the maze and we, and we, like,

favor certain kids that the community, whoever's doing, being the community kid. I mean, honestly, first of all, so what? Like, who, who raises the kids? Some community guy, I guess that's their job? You have a couple people. They're fucking them, all right? That's part of the problem. I mean, yeah,

I get it. Parents also fuck their kids. But, I mean, look, can, before we fix capitalism, before we change our entire system of economic exchange, can we just maybe stop fucking kids in the ass, in the mouth, and the pussy? Please. I don't know how that's not a bigger priority. So, I mean, I don't know how... Why don't we care? Am I the only one not fuck? I mean, am I the only one is not pedophile? It seems like that sometimes. It seems like it's just like, I take it seriously and everyone else is, like, polite about it.

I'm like, oh, yeah, sure, but they are. I don't know. You would think, now, I'm not, this is not speaking to Q. I'm not making the Q claim here of, you know, like, what's the Tom Hanks and ankle braces? I don't know. I'm talking about the Catholic Church mostly.

I'm not really worried about Tom Hanks. But whatever. Point is, can we overthrow capitalism? Wasn't I think I'm talking about Michael Jordan? I like Michael Jordan. He's great. I mean, he, uh, anything else is bringing

Pete, Bruce? Oh, we just died. Regis Philbin. Yeah, he's no one. I mean, look, I love the guy. Can we, I know one really is going too crazy, so it's fine. Because it's really, is it that sad when the guy who's 88 dies? No, it's objectively not sad. It could be sad for you. It was your grandpa.

But even then, it's like, only a good life. I mean, if he did, if he's 88 and you're like, we really should have rest. them from that Met prison they was in for like 40 years then yeah you should feel bad you'd be sad that like oh grandpa has but when you're rich you know broadcast your grandpa who might have been pushed out of Regis and Kathy too early but at the end of the day I'm sure he was fine um yeah I don't care I mean it's like I don't not care everything it's also like you know we're gonna honor I mean he's good guy he's very funny guy it's fun what am I gonna do

am I gonna fucking is he Kubrick Is it rude to compare dead people I don't know Just saying like you know I'm glad No one I actually got better stand So I can tap it

It doesn't do that fucking It's too much Too much vibration I don't know I'm just glad You know COVID's gonna kill us all Or not look

You come to me for positivity right It's okay we're okay put a shot I really you know I think I've passed the cap not to go back to my own shit

but you know perhaps it's still inside me it's a nice feeling maybe it'll always be inside me and it won't cut me up it wasn't that sharp it was kind of pointing on one end but I don't think it was sharp enough

to like perforate my bowels but uh maybe it was maybe maybe maybe uh maybe it's kind I wish there was heat inside your intestines if we really were intelligently designed, as people claimed. And there'd be teet inside the rest of your intestinal tract.

Because sometimes I'm eating a nice juicy burger or a fucking calamari or big, you know, plates of pasta. And I'm not chewing 40 times because I just want the flavor. I want the feeling, the mouth feeling. I'm just chew. But I'm not trying to chew it for an hour. If we were intelligently designed, then the rest of your goddamn intestinal tract would have teat that. and mash it down for you. So, you know, you wouldn't have to have, like, this adjada, you know, so maybe it'll stay in there,

like the way, maybe this will be, like, my gizzard. Because I think chickens, right, have gizzards or roosters. Some of those birds have gizzards. They swallow rocks. And then, like, so the rocks are used to, like, break down the food they eat. It's ingenious. I love it. So maybe my tooth will do that.

It's probably already out. I think it was sifting through my feces. It's probably in there and I got flushed down and it's over. But best case scenario, it's still there. And it's just, you know, grinding down my steak from now on. And I can enjoy my steak more efficiently. That's a nice positive thing, right? That's, it all came together like Seinfeld.

We found a positive thing. It's nice. The toot is eating stuff on the inside. Thank you for listening to Kump. This has been great. You guys are phenomenal. Go follow me on Twitter. Instagram we haven't already probably do but if you haven't do that sign up for the

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