Kump - 57 - Kumpsgiving w/ Tim Dillon
Episode Date: November 27, 2020Ray is joined by the great Tim Dillon, and they discuss the decline of America's youth, the rise of America's steak prices, and finding love on the road. Get your "I'm A Wine Princess, Bitch!" T... Shirt, available for a limited time! https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Sign up at patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week!
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Hello and welcome to Kump.
As you can see, there is no video today.
Don't complain to me because we have a very special guest that will make up for any of your misgivings.
I want to give a warm
Welcome to a man who is
Right now stranded in a COVID wasteland
He's spent Thanksgiving alone
He can tell us what he's been doing
But I presume it's sitting in filth perhaps
Eating, you know, scraps
He's possibly lost a lot of weight
Please give a warm welcome to Tim Dillon
How great would it be if you had Roe
and that's how you brought Joe Rogan on.
Like he was in a COVID wasteland.
I don't know what he's doing.
Give it up for Joe Rosen.
Wouldn't it be great to just give him like that type of introduction?
I mean, look, how is it over there?
Introductions are one of the funniest things
because there are people that are so bad at them.
Right.
That before you even start the interview, you're like,
like I've been angry at people.
because it's so bad at the introduction.
They don't know where they say something you did six years ago.
This guy was a quiz.
This guy,
I saw him on Gotham comedy,
Axis comedy on Gotham,
whatever it was called.
Yeah,
it's like,
it's like,
because then they always go,
hey man,
I'm such a big fan.
Thanks so much for doing this.
And then they go like this.
They go,
this guy's a regular governor's comedy club in Long Island.
I'm like,
could you have done any research?
This guy can be seen at a wild, wild heart tattoo shop.
Yeah, right.
Wild child.
I just got, I just had a thing with the people that run that.
Set up a Fleming's steakhouse.
Do you have Fleming's on the East Coast?
You're acting like when you didn't grow up here, like, until a year ago.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what goes on over there anymore.
I mean, I'm here now.
I even left my house since you left New York.
Well, anyway, remember they.
They do this to you know.
You order steak, and they give you the plastic knife.
I go, guys, guys, I said, I need, because I just lived into my house, I don't have utensils.
I said, I need the real knife.
I said, I'll pay you for it.
And the woman's like, we can't do it.
I'm like, it's thanks fucking giving.
She goes, we can't do it.
Then I go, listen, Google me.
I said, I speak to half a million people a week.
I said, I speak to half a million people a week on a podcast.
And I said, I'll say very good things about Fleming.
I thought you finally pulled that card at Fleming's.
I pulled a card and it worked.
I got a knife for 12.50.
And I'm like,
Oh, they charge you 1250?
Oh, they charge me these pieces of shit and they refused to give me a fork.
But I'm like, screaming and yelling.
I got to pull rank for a fucking 1250.
I'm like, I'm like, dude, but I'm not for ready.
12.
I mean, look, they get them for cheaper.
Well, look, they have decent knives.
But here's the deal.
You go to a dollar store and they'll sell you like four steak knives for like three bucks.
And you're, like, just give those away with take caffeine eat too.
If I could, they'll cost you like a, 20 cents, you know?
Listen, I know most people have utensils, but there's got to be a certain amount of people
that for whatever reason you just don't have a steak knife.
I don't, I don't have sick knives.
I've been eating steak.
I'm off keto with the moment because of my teeth.
I had a number of teeth issues recently, multiple teeth.
That's why you're off keto for the season.
No, honestly, it's like it's hard to eat.
steak when you have like i've got a bridge on one side that like is what was i to take out every time
i eat and the other side they had a poloot and so i'm waiting for it to heal before they can do
anything there it's this big gap there and it's a root canal thing behind that so i can't chew on either
side of the mount i was like the dentist was like chew on the other side but he knew i'm like
no i have that bridge you said you're going to try and fix oh yeah try a softer diet for a while
yeah the dentist looked at you he's like well first things first just by observing
you, I could tell you you're on keto, right?
Okay.
The diet for the fattest.
Keto is the diet
for the fattest people
that I've ever met in my life,
myself included.
It's the diet.
If you're over 300 pounds,
you're on keto,
is it the easiest diet?
No, doctor, doctor.
Doctor, I'm allowed to eat this much mayonnaise.
It's just part of the diet.
It's the easiest diet to sell the fat.
fuck, it's basically like, listen, you're like
creases, I've got to bust it on it.
It's amazing because, like, yeah, look, all you got to do
is not eat bread, but you can't use as much bacon, as much
butter, as much fucking, whatever, steak.
We still can't stick to it.
You can't. And by the way, by the way,
try to explain, you know, to, like, anyone that's ever
been healthy, but look at you
like you have since 19 at, you're like,
Like, by the way, I can't have any grains, but do you have any bacon?
Because I'm going to make a bacon and mayonnaise smoothie.
I mean, it's really crazy.
But I got to get on a version of it because it's like, the Forbes do make you feel like.
No, I feel awful right now.
I started drinking, basically told me he told me he going on a softer diet for a while.
So I got right.
So I really have a blender, it's a ninja blender, you know, decent quality.
And so I started making smoothies for the first four days.
But then I would just, you try to drinking smoothies for every meal,
and you start getting blocked, not blocked up, but just full.
It's like, it's like filling up a turduckin or something.
Or like, what's that thing?
I'm like foie gras, you know?
What kind of smoothies were you having?
Well, I was taking, all right, I'll tell you what I was doing.
All right.
So I put frozen berries, banana, almond milk, oats.
raw oats and
what else
protein powder and I mix it together
but you know
I was making them too big
and I was probably just drinking too much of it
and too often
and so I was just feeling very like
just a full like because it's like
it's like when someone's like
putting glue inside of something you know what I mean
when you inject something with a liquid
like a mold like it was basically
like drinking smoothies is a fact guy
I just basically putting an injection mold into yourself
It's not good
The smoothie was
Before keto
It was a smoothie
Like
It's the classic
It's the classic fat movement
It's like
Well
My mother
Used to like make
milkshakes in a half
The powder
The shit
The smoothie was
Before keto
It was like
Hey you like milk shakes
What if you can drink
Milkshakes
Colsey
And Blue's way
You go yeah
Why not
Right
Yeah, it's just like it's
Carnation Instant Breakfast
But they call it a weight law shake
I mean, if anyone comes up and goes
How about you do you eat like a human being
We go, hey, fuck you, buddy
Why don't you just be like
A little rice, a little brown rice
A little chicken, a little broccoli
Hey, fuck you
You don't understand
It's called ketosis
It's a metabolic state
Your body goes through a different metabolic
You gotta piss on a strip
You're pissing on a strip?
yeah yeah it's keto's a diet where you got to just constantly keep pissing all over your hands
yeah it's disgusting uh but uh but yeah so i i don't have a steak knife is the point um so when i over
the summer and in the fall when i was doing keto and eating steaks every day in the air fryer
i was just like basically at the table with a chef's knife like a full like aian chef's knife
and just cutting it up you know well yeah it works
but it feels a little, you know,
I feel like Hannibal Lecter, kind of.
I just love when I have to fight for nothing.
Like, this is my life.
I fight and I fight and I fight for nothing.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm put through the ringer.
I got to jump through the hooves.
I got to brag about my fucking podcast
so that I could get a $12 night.
I love how like, A, they're not getting in a club.
They're charging you for it.
It's not like, did they comp you with dessert at least?
not only do they not copy a dessert
they said they couldn't do the tuna tartar
because it's raw
and they couldn't do anything raw to go
when I said
I don't understand that
they go well
we just thought we did it's our policy
doesn't make any sense
oh I get it I get it
because look I do get it now
as I think about it because like
you could leave it in your trunk for like eight hours in the sun
and then like try it and you go to eat it
and you get sick
Yeah, wouldn't that be my fault?
Yeah, but you know
If I left to a tartar in the car in the car
Overnight
Well, everyone's afraid to get in sued
Because they see these like
Quote on quote, quote, frivolous lawsuits
That the media's put out there
I was like, oh, old woman
I was going to start screaming
I have COVID
I have COVID
Just let me eat one more meal
Let me eat one more goddamn meal
My wife's died of COVID
what kind of steak did you get
a petite filet
what is that exactly a petite filet
just a small filet mignon a petite filet
that's not much you need more than that
what are they bang you for that
50 bucks
50 bucks for the petite filet
I've got crad cakes and lobster bits
oh okay
but still that seems like
the filet mignon like Wollinski's
wasn't even 50 bucks was it or it was just that
like this place
they're all banging you they're all banging you now
I mean the prices of steak
they're like stupid like
ribos are $112 for no reason
what it's gone out of control
but the ones we used to get well let's get the Colorado
ribo like just regular one like that
those were like 57
I don't know what those have I haven't been there in a year
but like any steakhouse now
they're all just absurd like
$100 used to mean a steak for two people.
Yeah.
Now it means like one person.
Yeah, like a full-on porterhouse or two was like a buck 20,
like a high-end steakhouse, it was?
That's crazy.
This is, this is the point of COVID.
It's to, it's to draw people into a situation
where they have to like pay premium prices for like, you know.
What is that?
You playing piano?
I'm going to get so many people mad at me to the Kansas Owens episodes
because I have fans on the trout
and it's like I don't really challenge her
because I just kind of giggle
and shit at what she says
like I also like
I'm just not that kind of interview
I just don't give a shit
you're not going to deepunk people
really giveish
I don't care
that's the other thing
it's like this whole idea
that I gotta care
like she's like you know
I said I said
I said like
I said hey
it seems to
it seems to make sense
to people
that like black people
have had a harder time of it
America's the white people and she's like
what do you mean and I just started laughing
because I don't I start laughing
I'm like what a way I mean
I'm then I start going
into like the redlining and that
I'm like what about this and that
and she starts
screaming all right listen
this is the way she feels like
you know this isn't a fucking
this isn't like some great
journalistic endeavor here
you know I really
two things a you're not going to convince her
and the people would say
well you shouldn't be platforming her
if you're going to agree with that
you're going to find her
like no one needs to platform her
she's a huge star
yeah it's like
she's a massive star
we get this
interesting stuff with her
she's like you know
we get her to admit
that maybe we should decriminalize
the drugs here
how about we decriminalize the drugs
you have a like a conversation
I would have with somebody at lunch
Can you imagine if, like, one of your listeners, your diehard fans is listening?
Here's your like, like, you know, whatever objection.
Like, oh, don't you think they have heart?
Here's her pitch and goes, you know, just fat fuck's wrong.
She's on to something.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, what am I supposed to say?
Like, this is the problem with this shit.
No, it's ridiculous.
I mean, look, she's a ridiculous part.
Like, she's a ridiculous.
She knows she's, like, she knows what we spent the whole, or all podcast talking.
about people like her.
Just like,
it's old school grift.
It's whatever,
the woman feels the way she feels.
You know,
whether it's,
I'm not in her heart.
I'm not in her head.
Sure.
So like whatever,
why ever she feels that she feels,
the woman does seem to feel the way she feels.
What do you want me to do?
Right.
Like,
what am I supposed to do?
Like,
she goes,
she goes,
well,
your argument is proven wrong
because she goes,
your attitude on abortion is based on,
the generation you grew up in
and I go
yeah but my attitude that I think it's okay
that you vote is also based on that
she goes yeah there's good things
she goes yeah there's good
so I'm like well
I mean I mean you know
it's not really made to go too deep
but am I even trying to you know look
she's it's
this is not her fault
if people didn't buy it
it's like it's capitalism at this point
like this is not this is not like I mean
it's different than like actual hate crime shit
or whatever you want to call
you know, like, Richard Spanthe, what are those guys?
It's like, if people want to buy this, it's, it's, it's, it's, they're the, they're at fault.
It's, you know, if she, if, if, if she's going to come in, like, there's legitimate marks is the point.
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I just, I thought it was a good episode.
She's fun.
I'm glad she came on, you know.
No, she, look, she's a charismatic figure.
There's a great sense of humor. It's kind of like, I don't know, folks, go, go find, go fun, like this people on my
Instagram that are like I'll shoot this one out it's like well you go do that you do that that's
okay I like how people try like trying to like take you down as if like anyone put you
propped you up in the first place yeah it's like it's like yeah it's like yeah how about you sit
that one out you know how about you sit that one out if you don't you don't want to hear what you
got to say you don't have to that's a great thing about America you have the ability to not
listen you don't have to announce you're not listening
but everyone does everyone does
everyone's got to go hey Tim I'm a big fan
but I'm going to sit this one out
well that's good
okay
good for you
you know you know I don't know
I mean it was a
fun episode
this is the thing when you have guessed
it's like there's two ways you can do an interview
you can go at them
be very combative
try to create like some viral moment
of you being combative
or you could just go
fuck it
which is kind of what I do
I'm like
I want to grip
like I'm more interested
in the spiel
and like
if I'm getting sold
by a salesman
maybe it's because I used to be in sales
I sit back and I'm like
let him go
let him rip
yeah I know it's not
I know the rates are wrong
I know he's not
he's not able to do what he says
but let him go
he's in his he's in a moment
he's you know
let's let him
go and it's kind of the way I feel about her
I'm like she's telling and I'm just sitting there
going like okay
we'll see what you got
I look
I'm sure it's a great episode
fuck everyone
what are we preserving at this point
what are we even like
what are we arguing like
the president
you're like I don't know you get a griff then
I don't know you get a grift then
what do you think is left in this country
by the way it's not much left
hey you know the president's like the president's
still, like, you know, refusing to leave the White House.
Or we can chew and eat gum at the same time. No, we can't.
Like, well, we just focus on one thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
The country's still having, like, 20-person Thanksgiving and coughing in their
grandma's throat.
Yeah. But you're going to worry about what Tim has in his show.
Yeah.
I, Whitney Cummings, a friend of mine comedian, gave me a lot of furniture.
She gave me a lot of furniture, a high-end furniture, probably about $100,000
dollars with a furniture.
Wow.
I'm going to give her something.
I'm going to give her something. I'm going to give her, like, 20 grand or something.
but she's given it to me
for the house that I rented
and I had never done a full move
because I never owned anything
so I always just left with like
you saw how I moved
but I was full a laundry bag with clothes
and I would take out a laptop
that was it
You'd be offered me books that you were
like your Norman Miller books
and like you know
just garbage all over your floor
I mean look up until a year ago
you lived like a you know a pauper
Absolutely
and this is the first
legitimate and so the moving was like
$1,200 to move
and then the three guys worked all
Thanksgiving. Wait, that was only $1,200 for the move?
To move all that stuff? Only $1,200 for the
move. That seemed pretty reasonable. But then
I was fine. So I gave me an $800
tip because they worked all of Thanksgiving
and it was three guys. So at least
it's like two
something each, right? Two 50,
two 60. Like, and they were so
happy, man. They were so
grateful for it.
But what a fucking
what a move
you know
what a fucking
what you got a nice dining room table
Ben was supposed to come up
Ben was supposed to come over
but supposedly he had Thanksgiving plans
with his wife
at 8 o'clock in the morning
Ben is your podcast producer
slash personal assistant
for those who don't know
yeah Ben supposedly had
I don't know what they were doing
they went to the church trot
I guess at 8 o'clock in the morning
so he couldn't come over and help
I don't know what he was doing
he was he was
I get every
And now I text him
I go
What are you doing tomorrow
Are you trick-or-treating
Or can we do a little work
Are we doing
Are you Christmas caroling?
Are you caroling?
Or can you come over a few hours
To hang out of the work?
Did he really go on a turkey trite this morning?
No, I don't know what he did
I don't know what he did
But
It's hard finding, you know, good people
Well, you know
He's great
But at the end of the day
It's like, you know
Nobody works
And you know
Everybody works
And then if you ask anyone that's under 30
or you tell them that you don't like the job days on,
they cry and they have a cancer.
They tell you they love you.
I mean, that's what that's, that's a new way to get over
is you just start crying, I love you,
I just, I'm so sorry, I disappointed you.
And then you don't change your behavior at all.
That's the way to do it.
This is a phenomenon I've witnessed as well.
It's just just kind of infantilized,
not just, you know, amongst a men,
but everyone's just an emotional basket case.
And they bring.
break down, they start crying. Do you think that that's like, that's actually legitimate,
like they actually just are fragile, or do you think they just learn from their weak parents
to just, well, I'll just throw a tantrum and like get my way?
I think it's a little bit of both. I do think people are fragile now, though. As much as I'd
like to see it to say these kids are like diabolical. I do think they're fragile. I really do.
I do believe we have this learned fragility, as the great Rush Limbaugh would say,
learned helplessness, learned fragility.
There's a, who's still alive, by the way.
He was like, he's a state 5 lung cancer,
he's 17 lung cancer.
He got that middle ago ago.
He was going to be the only one to survive COVID.
Yeah.
I sent him an email in Palm Beach.
I'm like, hey, man, I am a fan.
Can I interview you?
I'm course he's never responded.
You know, of course.
But.
Do you think he just babes naked in a bathtub with that bedel on?
I mean, if he's not, he's making a mistake.
Yeah.
It's just a ball and move.
What did you say?
He's bathed naked with one on?
That medal.
Remember Trump put that medal on him last year?
The State of the Union?
He just bathed naked.
They just find his dead body floating in a tub naked with that Congressional Medal of Freedom.
He was a real hero.
He was a man.
But it's learned for Jillian, meaning like, there was something that happened in the country.
And I don't know when it happened.
Everything became about your emotions.
everything became about how you were feeling and your mental health and wellness and self-care
and everything became about how you were feeling every moment of the day and you needed to
like the kids did out the other day of car you opened for me who's great but like he used
his word that quality of life I just wanted a great quality of life I'm like no one I know grew
up using that terminology people like I want a roof over my head but now these kids have
been like they've been like told that like that their mental constitution is entirely
dependent on them being comfortable and it's I understand mental health and being mentally
healthy but these kids are now told like hey your mental health is entirely dependent on
everybody around you telling you how great you are and loving you at every minute every great
artist 20 years ago including yourself was living in the crack den at his age and he's just I
wrong, great quality of life.
Like, like, you imagine, like, you know,
only guys in the 60s and the 70,
even these guys who came up in the 80s,
probably, like, lived in, like, fucking shitty,
like, you know, run-down areas in New York City.
These guys in comedy, I mean, even,
like, it's just the level of...
You know what it is?
So you can't get upset with anyone under 30
because they will literally cry.
I mean, they will literally cry,
and they will tell you that they're so sorry
and they need to go to therapy.
And I'm like, dude, I wanted you to work
for two hours on the morning of Thanksgiving
where there's a pandemic
and there's nothing going on
we're getting free
not free but we're getting heavily discounted
furniture for our podcast video
and it's like
how about we work for two hours
and then he sends you a whole big thing back
he's like hey man I'm sorry
I didn't communicate with you that I was busy
I got to stop doing this
you know your own more
I got to go to therapy
I'm like you don't have to go to therapy
just come yeah it's like I am old
then just do the thing
do the job like
It's every which way but the job.
It's like, I'm going to go to therapy.
I'm going to go on a silent retreat.
No.
It's like, he just goes to therapy.
That's more time he's not available.
It's like, no, this isn't the solution.
I have to work on my chakra.
How great would it be if you went to therapy
and he's playing the situation.
Therapers look at him and why don't you fucking go help the guy move?
Is that your job?
Isn't that your job?
Yeah, that's a therapy session.
It should be over 20 minutes.
yeah but that's the thing
they're all weaned on therapy
that's the grift it's just like
no one these therapists could probably fix
people in a week
go hey stop
stop hitting your kids
you know stop drinking
so much of it is so much of it is very
people are very like
life is hard
this is what people should like
get through their heads right
which none of this generation
under 30 seems to get
life is hard
for the majority of people on the
planet Earth, it's brutal, short, and horrible, okay? Life. Now there's moments of levity and
fun and whatever, but it's a tough thing. Life is hard. This is like what these people are
finding out. It can be great, but not all the time, not every minute, not every second. Most of
what you have to do in life is drudgery. You're saying, oh, you've got to do this, I love performing,
how much of that is, you know, how much of my day is, like, getting on a plane,
checking a hotel, like, everything I hate to get to something that I love to do.
So when I'm like, hey, man, can we move the tables for two hours,
it becomes like this strange thing where I'm like, I'm like taking the unfun world
and like injecting it into the reality of like,
But it's Thanksgiving.
It's Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving is fun.
I mean, how many?
For me.
How many years have we been making this point?
Like, it's for fucking children.
All these holidays are for children.
They're all for children, but these are children.
You know, so people are like, I'm going to try to.
I didn't request the whole Thanksgiving.
I wasn't like the whole day.
I was like, hey, about a couple hours in the morning.
And, you know, it became.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it, man.
I remember being on a job, and, like, you know, I was like 18 working at a retail store,
and, like, my manager was like, and it wasn't one of these, like, corporate real-tape,
real-tail, you're a smaller shop.
I was like, hey, yeah, I wanted to take my birthday off.
He's like, your birthday.
How old are you?
Like, I mean, like, and you get that.
You hate your birthdays.
You don't give a shit about them.
But I'm, like, these guys are, like, 26, 27.
Like, no one's ever checked them on this stuff.
It's crazy.
But, uh...
It's like...
There's something about it
that I think goes back
to like
this idea, which is now
very popular. This is a very, very popular idea
and I don't know where this came from.
This idea of
like
balance,
you know, where everybody's like,
I want a balanced
life. I want everything to be balanced.
So I need to have equal parts
because balance is, you know,
essentially like equal.
So I need to have equal parts of everything all the time.
I need equal parts love, equal parts work, equal parts fun, equal parts health,
equal part success.
And there was this idea that when I grew up, you would maybe make sacrifices for years.
Many people made sacrifices for the majority of their lives.
I don't know.
I mean, because like Michael Jordan was all about balance and well-roundedness.
Right.
Yeah, he was very, it was very balanced, you know.
So this is what I mean.
And I think that, like, there's this idea that, like, well, I just can't work for two hours on Thanksgiving because that's a holiday.
And that's when I have my time with my wife.
And I understand that.
Yeah, but you know what?
Right.
You know who's into that is like Norwegians or like Scandinavia?
Like, these northern countries.
Yeah, there's also people that work at Geico.
Like, dude, go work.
No, but that's my point.
It's like, but these people are like, Dan, like, wants to be a star.
but also I want to live like, you know, a balanced IKEA life.
And it's like we have one of the other.
Well, the other thing is like, listen, there's a value
to living in a very normal humdrum life.
What I'm trying to do and what people in my business are trying to do
is kind of fucking wild and crazy.
And we have to not like, we can't observe every convention
that regular people do.
So sometimes things might need to get done on a holiday.
Sometimes things might need to get done during a time.
Sometimes things might need to get done at 2 o'clock in the morning, because I feel like working at 2 o'clock in the morning. And if I feel like working at 2 o'clock in the morning, that's a problem. And if you don't feel like working at 2 o'clock the morning, that's okay, you don't have to work with me and for me. And I'm not mad at him. I'm just saying that like this is when you have an unconventional life, you're signing up for an unconventional life. And that life means you don't have to work as much as everyone else, never have to really clock in. But you might have to work at odd time.
You might have to work at weird time.
You might have to, like, you know, do things that seem crazy.
Like, you know, do things that other people wouldn't do.
Like, I'm sure, like, his wife was like, well, why do you have to help move this stuff
and it was out?
And it's like, well, number one, it's a podcast table for the studio.
Number two, it's work.
Like, going and emptying shit out that we're going to fucking use is work.
And we've got to clean stuff off and empty drawers.
Like, it's a job.
then listen, we made it on Thanksgiving because that's what the movers could do it,
because the two days that were open with Thanksgiving in December 6th.
And those were the two days.
And it's like, you know, if you choose to do it on Thanksgiving, you know, it's Thanksgiving.
Now, I, you know, my head, I'm like, it's a pandemic.
Nobody's having Thanksgiving.
Right.
You can have Thanksgiving any day, any night.
So I think it's just people that say they want to take something all the way and go all the way and go really hard and work.
but at the end of the day
they really want to be a basic pitch
and there's nothing wrong with that
but that's kind of deep down who a lot
most people are they're like yeah
I just want I just
it's like that movie searching for Bobby Fisher
like the kid realized I don't want to be a great chess
player um
and the movie may see you see that movie right
yeah yeah so it's a bad as his chest kid
and he's like his dad is pushing him hard
because he discovers chess and he's got
you know his kid's like seven or eight
he's a breakdown and then finally he realized
oh you should be able to play baseball and all this
shit and the movie makes it seem like he was
able to do both but then I got into chess
later on in life and I realized
oh yeah this kid's like a master but he
never made the grandmaster let alone become
like a champion like he's a loser
I knew people who played with him in Washington Square Park
it's a loser so it's like you know
it's fine kid which kid is it Josh Waitskine you know
he was doing the fucking tutorials on chess master
5,000 you know I got for Christmas
one year
Have you watched the Queen's Gambit?
No, it seems insane.
I haven't seen the trailer even, but it's...
I mean, I watched three episodes.
I couldn't do it.
I was, I mean, it's just...
Look, the people who are great at chess,
I mean, you have on one side of Bobby Fisher,
who's just like, we've played his tapes on the old show.
Like him calling in the 9-11 to the Argentine radio station.
Great.
Oh, it's a great day, Pablo.
was fucking blaming the Jews for everything
I mean that to me that's the real
Queen's Gambit I mean but I want that
I want to watch that where's that series
on Netflix about Bobby Fisher's screaming about
Jews yeah they do everything except for that
more interesting it's like how did he get there
someone explain how he got there
and then you've got Gary Caspar who's getting like
poisoned by Putin he's trying to become
the governor of Georgia or some shit
I don't know what he's doing but you know
they're a crazy bunch
and uh you know it is
I mean chess is just kind of
every idiot plays chess now
when we grew up
it was a thing where like it seemed smart
I was on the chess team
I was a captain
in my chess club in high school
and it seemed like
but now every like every moron you see
you know waiting for the bus is playing chess
online with each other
the whole mystique is ruined
there's no more
it's not it's not a noble pursuit anymore
now it's just like kids who play online poker
might as well be the same thing
but the champion right now is like 15
he's just some guy who's like
you know, playing World of Warcraft on one screen,
playing chess on 15 on the, you know, 15 screens on the other.
But, yeah, I mean, I, I just think that, like,
so much of everything now just bored, I'm just bored.
And I don't want to be as bad.
You know, I just like, when I watch something, I'm like,
I'm just boring.
I'm bored.
Right.
It's, we're in, like, the second wave, the second lockdown,
Trump's just don't let me do it.
Yeah, whatever wave we're in, I'm bored by.
I know it's horrible and people get sick and I hope they don't, you know, I'm not going anywhere.
I just thought, like, I find every expression of culture boring.
I find every argument boring.
I find every person making any other.
Like, people are mad about a Jordan Peterson book.
Again, the guy's been in a coma for a year or nobody's, I can't even like.
Does he have a new book?
The guy's brain was wiped clean.
He has got a new book.
close 12 more rules for life
I couldn't even write that
it wasn't his brain wiped clean
like what's the fuck happened?
His like he's like
you know cam girl daughter
probably goes straight for him
right so I'm just like
people are
people are
mad
Penguin publishing house
they had a big thing through a fan
I can't believe you're published
to a piece of book
and I'm like
wasn't this a new story
like two years ago
like this guy
The guy's a kook, right?
The guy's, like, I mean, a lot of his lectures are kind of interesting.
Like, you know, his old, the old school stuff he was doing.
But no one cares about him anymore.
It's like they're making him relevant.
It's like the guy, you're mad about it.
Also, the worst thing he did was say, like, hey, I mean, he did say something weird about, like, marriage.
But besides that, the worst thing he said was, like, take responsibility.
It was like, this guy's a problem.
Yeah, I mean, it's also like, guys, just fucking don't.
ever get over it.
Don't you ever get over anything?
Like, it's not important anymore.
No one cares.
It's amazing how this generation, this generate, yeah, well, a lot of notes to you
that has a win.
But it's amazing that this generation who is more Republican than Trump.
This generation is like the least effective of any generation, probably as far as
organizing and like, you know, all that shit is the most whipped up about every.
like they're like little bees flying around and they need to feel like they've won like you know
the little civil rights movement was able to like like shift the needle over years gradually because
they were just you know like you know smart methodical and they've been you know and and can you know
was persistent and like these people are just hopping from like thing to thing every week and
it's just what do you like who who's your target like what do we what do we even we're just
against like uh anyone who sounds confident is that that that the thing?
anyone who sounds like
anyone who doesn't
who isn't kind of like just subservient
and go oh I'm a real big fucking
white people I might make it as a race thing
I'm just like how much of a fuck
like anyone who's got any opinion
that isn't like completely subservient
is just like you know
like villain number one
I just can't imagine caring like
yeah I can't imagine actually caring
and I can't imagine a lot of these people actually care
and they have to like grab themselves up for it
and it's like you're making a new
story when there doesn't need to be one, just
publish a fucking book. It's not going to
nearly sell as well as the first fucking book.
No one fucking cares.
Just let it go. It's so fucking
annoying. The guy was in a Turkish
like, you know, like prison having
COVID fits like a week
The guy
was having fucking electric shock therapy
in Russia.
It's the point you always make about Milo.
By the list to be on the skanks.
You know, like everyone that got mad
that he was going to be on the skanks and you're like
he's in the basement of a Mexican restaurant
in Miami Island City
he's lost already
Yeah I just
I don't know man
It's still boring right now
It's like
I get it
Because this is how you become a basic bitch
Like I can kind of feel myself doing it
Like this is how you just start getting interested in cars
And like oh I want to get this type of grill
Like I get it
Because after a while you start realizing like
Oh there are no solutions
It ain't gonna work
And you're like okay
I guess I should just start like
I like now I look at the birds in my backyard and I'm like
and I'm like is this how my father gets so like checked out
like my dad's completely just checked out
I'm like this is how it happens because like 10 years from now
people are still going to be mad about Jordan Peterson
and I can either pay attention to that or look at my back start
and be like is that a sin you know like that's what happens
I just like fucking stupid uh Hank Paulson
and the fucking you know in the movie
to make the fail movie he's just like looking at birds
where the economy's collapsing.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where I'm going to end up.
It's not a bad hobby.
Honestly, I used to sell, you know, these things.
You get a nice pair of like Zorovsky binoculars or something.
Looking at birds is nice when you're looking through a nice piece of glass.
It can be a nice hobby for you.
Yeah, I mean, you just got to start getting into something, man.
I mean, this is a problem with politics and fucking culture.
It's like you just got to start getting into something.
It's like we're circling the drain in the society.
I can't even challenge people on their ideas anymore.
I just kind of giggle.
And I just, you don't want to have fun and be funny.
And, like, this revolutionary spirit, it doesn't exist.
Right.
This is so stupid.
And you just got to kind of, unfortunately, check out.
You've got to check out after a while, you know?
I think a lot of people, like, they get this illusion not so much because of, like, how hard it is to fight to fight.
but when you realize the people you're fighting
how full of shit the people you're fighting with are
you know what I mean I remember when I remember
like when I was like oh stand-up comedy
is going out
I didn't know how
this seems like a pretty definitive blow
to it but
you know watching that art form
sail off into a relevancy
and not you know
because even of the pandemic really
but because technology
has just kind of
flattened everything and it's given everybody the ability to be funny and then once everyone
has the ability to be funny you go well if the neighbor is funny you know and they put something
on youtube or whatever why do i care about a guy that probably isn't any isn't actually funny
who's worked for years to get funny like why because most people just want to laugh they don't respect
the craft of comedy right that's the same way i look at the media landscape and the public
intellectuals, it's like, well, most people just want to hear something, right?
They don't care that you like, you know, went places and worked places and studied and
like crafted your views in any specific way and challenged them and, you know,
or received accolades and won Pulitzer.
They give a shit.
Well, it's like, you know, if some guy has some fucking coin trick in front of you,
you might be impressed.
And then, like, pendulum, comes out.
Oh, that's bullshit.
Yeah, I can see his fucking movements and stuff.
I don't know.
I don't know what this is.
Like, I'm just, it's just hyper fucking focus, which magic doesn't really have,
but, like, it's just hyper focus on, like, yeah, like, the supposed to craft.
When, like, it's supposed to be a Carniac.
It's supposed to be, like, a fucking gimmick, you know?
The occasional, you have the occasional, carl in, or the occasional, you know, hicks or whatever.
But, you know, it's just there.
It's supposed to go out and just have fun, get drunky chicken fingers.
It's there, it's all chicken fingers.
and then people trying to make into this life's this whole life's vocation
I'm trying to get this guy
I'm trying out in London to show me a dick
because he just started
bothering me on Instagram
and then I'm just like to show me your dick
show me to keep messing with me and he's like I'm going to do it
I'm going to do it I don't think he's ever going to do it
what you mean he was harassing you like hey you suck
kind of thing no no no no
we're just going on and on about you know
you know, I should get
Katie Hopkins
something.
Get Katie Hopkins
who's Katie Hopkins?
She's the white
Candace Owens in Britain
He's like,
these immigrants
They're all,
they all smell all shit
Oh,
now like
God don't see so
What happened
I don't bring
I was supposed to be
The higher class one
They all smell
I don't know what she says
Whatever
Like so
No, but she does shit like that
It's worse
than that
Whatever you know
Yeah
And I know they got problems
with the events over there
But I'm like
I'm like
I'm like
Oh my man
Just show me a dick
They made him download Snapchat
Because the pictures
Disappear
So is this guy
Is this guy like
Did you know he was gay
Or you just kind of like
You know
He says he's bye
And he's whatever
I'm never gonna see
He's fucking London
I'm just bored
I'm like
I'm trying to ever show me
I'm like
You idiot
He's like
It's not a great dick
I'm like I know
You're British
Doesn't matter
I'm going to
I'm bored
I'm bored
How much of the
gay community online is like just
wasting time.
Is there a lot of time wasting?
How much of all communities are just wasting time?
What's good point?
But I feel like
I feel like
That being said
You know, the least of the day online was also
kind of a waste most of the time.
I just feel like it's annoying.
It's all a waste of fucking time, dude.
It's all a waste of time.
I think at a certain point what happens is
if you find someone halfway deep
and you just go, all right, let's just do this
because, like, and I mean, like, long-term even, because you go, you know what?
Like, I'm just sick of this shit.
No, I mean, how much, like, how much of life is supposed to be, you know,
to vote to this fucking pursuit?
Like, I don't know.
It's crazy.
I mean, it's just annoying.
Have you been meeting people out there during the pandemic?
It's hard.
I mean, I've met a few people out in Palm Springs when I was there, and it's, but it's very hard.
It's very difficult in the pandemic.
It's like, it's fucking weird.
and I mean more people on the road
When I go on the road
It's a lot more fun
Because it's like yeah
I'm only town for a while
It's fun
It's like we all get what it is
And come back to L.A
L.A just sucks
Yeah
Well yeah because
Everybody's in L.A
L.A is just the best looking place
in the world
Everybody's like
You know
And it's just going to road
And people are just impressed
By a lot more
It's just impressed
Like
It's like
Yeah in L.A
It's like yeah
You got a blue checkmark
So is my dog
You know
It's like
On the road, you go to Arizona, people are like, whoa.
The problem is if you moved out, let's say you move to, where's a place you could move?
Yeah, but like somewhere, let's say you moved to somewhere even like smaller even, like Richmond, Virginia.
And you were like, you were a big star over there.
Like, how weird would that get within like six months?
Would you, would it just be like, a weird creep, like comedian who's just like, I'm saying it's like when people stop being impressed?
Yeah, I just think the.
road is to move. When you travel, you meet people
travel. You move around, right? It's more
fun that go on the road. You meet people. You got,
hey, I'm here a couple
of days. I'm performing. What are you up to?
There's an urgency. There's like, all right, well, you want to
eat? You know, and it's like,
there's a novelty. And then you're back
home, and it's like,
it's just no one's hair. It's like,
you know, it's also weird with the
pandemic in politics now is insane
like people putting shit in their bios on the bookup
apps like you better be
for defunding the police
what is this? What is
this? If you're not for fucking
if you haven't read Trotsky I'm a sucking your
dick. Yeah it's like you
don't show up at this glory hole with your pro
police. You're like wait a minute, hold
off. I mean
that used to be a guy you know it's like
I mean
they used to be a thing
Didn't guys, like, gay guys just, like, hook up with cops and stuff?
Or wasn't that, or were I just making it up in my head?
Well, that's probably is the case.
I'm sure it was the case to a certain street.
It's probably gay cops.
What a horrible Thanksgiving.
What a horrible Thanksgiving, by the one, for everyone.
Like, it just hit me how bad this has been.
Like, this has been so atrocious.
It's like, everybody in, everybody in the photos on Facebook looks already tagged.
They're, like, involved in the chair.
You have masks on, that people are cooking.
It looks so.
bad, dude. Do you see my turkey I made?
It looked pretty good.
Yeah, we, we, I, I, spank cocked it, baby, what's it called?
Spank, spank, spancocked.
I can't remember what we call it.
What does that even mean?
It's when you slice it down the backbone, you slice the backbone out and spitcock it?
It can't, I haven't, I haven't written that.
Spick, cock it sounds filthy.
Oh, spit cock that.
Look, look, look, there's a spitcock.
Turkey. Spatchcock.
That's it. Spatchcock.
Yeah, I mean, it's like...
And, you know, so you kind of butterfly it out.
Some guy on Instagram was like, that's not Spatchcock.
It's because he got bunched up in the picture.
But trust me, I cut the backbone out, all right?
It was hard.
I don't have a good knife, so it was hard to do.
But, you know, we made a nice little two-person Thanksgiving.
We had mashed potatoes handmade, and we had the stuffing.
But, yeah, I also, you know, I could have eaten, you know, Denny's.
Not Denny's.
I didn't have eaten Denny's my life.
what we're talking about, like whatever, takeout, McDonald's.
Like, I don't understand this weird fixation on, like, you know, getting together and like,
oh, it's just like, you think about, like, you know, what was like in the Soviet Union in, like,
the 70s and, like, you know, people were just, like, living in shitty, shitty apartment blocks,
just, you know, they just know what the government's, you know, people, they're coming back from Afghanistan
with, like, like, missing and shit.
And everyone's just fucking depressed and come back on heroin.
And, like, we're all just like, oh, we can't eat fucking turrets.
turkey together. It's just like
it's not like going to fuss about it. It's not
having a fucking deal. It's just just relax.
It's like
how funny would it be
if they did get people to sign waivers
that they couldn't go to the hospital
if they went to like their Thanksgiving
and they're like
EMTs and they had to show up in their house
and they go like no
no they're like
if their oxygen is low they're like
slap it around like a fish on the floor
And the MP's like, no, no, no.
They show up, and they show up, the guy's been stabbed.
Like, we still can't do anything.
I'm sorry.
But, yeah, I don't know.
It's just, like, the level of, I mean, people act like this is like, I mean, World War II and everything, you know, they act with this is World War II and we're rationing.
And, like, it's just, I mean, the people who are out of work, it does suck.
That's different.
That's what, but that's the people bitching, the people are going, like, oh, I can't believe it's good fucking thanks.
or like, you know, half the people
going on Thanksgiving anyway
and just, you know, they don't give a shit
and the other guy was bitching about it
and it's like, you know,
people used to get drafted in this country
what are we whining about?
Yeah, I mean, it's like, well,
I feel like people should go to war.
Send them to war and Kamala will.
Yeah.
Wait, you can say Iran?
I think Iran's now.
be kind of weird
I'm about trying to start a war with China
which I maybe I have the power to do
I don't know but it does
we were talking before it does seem like
you know more moral like this maybe this is a bioweapon
just because like
it doesn't seem like China seems to be doing fine
unless they're lying about which they might be
they're pretty tight-lipped
but this would be like you know
as we're seeing it develop
over the wider picture now
again not to be conspiratorial
but it seems like
if it was a weapon it did a good job
you know I mean the economy's gutted
the Dow was you know spiking which is you know
but you know but no one's working
I have to cut this short every door
in my house after the windstorm it's opening
and none of them more like all of them
I got to call a locksmith in tomorrow because they're all like
fucking coming up so I just have to shut these doors
because now leaves are blowing in it's going to be a mountain lion
coming in here telling me about Q&ON
oh thanks for doing the show I appreciate it no thanks for having me
I'll do it again. Thank you, buddy.
That was Tim Dillon.
Yeah, so I guess we'll wrap it up.
We're close to a full pod here.
I was, you know, good to they cut me off in the middle of my waxing philosophical about the war with China.
But, yeah, it might happen.
I'm not going to go fight.
I mean, maybe I'll sit in like a, you know, predator drone thing and I'll just, you know, hit targets with a joystick.
What do I know?
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