Kump - 57 - Kumpsgiving w/ Tim Dillon
Episode Date: November 27, 2020Ray is joined by the great Tim Dillon, and they discuss the decline of America's youth, the rise of America's steak prices, and finding love on the road.  Get your "I'm A Wine Princess, Bitch!" T... Shirt, available for a limited time! https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Sign up at patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week!
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                                        Hello and welcome to Kump.
                                         
                                        As you can see, there is no video today.
                                         
                                        Don't complain to me because we have a very special guest that will make up for any of your misgivings.
                                         
                                        I want to give a warm
                                         
                                        Welcome to a man who is
                                         
                                        Right now stranded in a COVID wasteland
                                         
                                        He's spent Thanksgiving alone
                                         
                                        He can tell us what he's been doing
                                         
    
                                        But I presume it's sitting in filth perhaps
                                         
                                        Eating, you know, scraps
                                         
                                        He's possibly lost a lot of weight
                                         
                                        Please give a warm welcome to Tim Dillon
                                         
                                        How great would it be if you had Roe
                                         
                                        and that's how you brought Joe Rogan on.
                                         
                                        Like he was in a COVID wasteland.
                                         
                                        I don't know what he's doing.
                                         
    
                                        Give it up for Joe Rosen.
                                         
                                        Wouldn't it be great to just give him like that type of introduction?
                                         
                                        I mean, look, how is it over there?
                                         
                                        Introductions are one of the funniest things
                                         
                                        because there are people that are so bad at them.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        That before you even start the interview, you're like,
                                         
                                        like I've been angry at people.
                                         
    
                                        because it's so bad at the introduction.
                                         
                                        They don't know where they say something you did six years ago.
                                         
                                        This guy was a quiz.
                                         
                                        This guy,
                                         
                                        I saw him on Gotham comedy,
                                         
                                        Axis comedy on Gotham,
                                         
                                        whatever it was called.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
    
                                        it's like,
                                         
                                        it's like,
                                         
                                        because then they always go,
                                         
                                        hey man,
                                         
                                        I'm such a big fan.
                                         
                                        Thanks so much for doing this.
                                         
                                        And then they go like this.
                                         
                                        They go,
                                         
    
                                        this guy's a regular governor's comedy club in Long Island.
                                         
                                        I'm like,
                                         
                                        could you have done any research?
                                         
                                        This guy can be seen at a wild, wild heart tattoo shop.
                                         
                                        Yeah, right.
                                         
                                        Wild child.
                                         
                                        I just got, I just had a thing with the people that run that.
                                         
                                        Set up a Fleming's steakhouse.
                                         
    
                                        Do you have Fleming's on the East Coast?
                                         
                                        You're acting like when you didn't grow up here, like, until a year ago.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know what goes on over there anymore.
                                         
                                        I mean, I'm here now.
                                         
                                        I even left my house since you left New York.
                                         
                                        Well, anyway, remember they.
                                         
    
                                        They do this to you know.
                                         
                                        You order steak, and they give you the plastic knife.
                                         
                                        I go, guys, guys, I said, I need, because I just lived into my house, I don't have utensils.
                                         
                                        I said, I need the real knife.
                                         
                                        I said, I'll pay you for it.
                                         
                                        And the woman's like, we can't do it.
                                         
                                        I'm like, it's thanks fucking giving.
                                         
                                        She goes, we can't do it.
                                         
    
                                        Then I go, listen, Google me.
                                         
                                        I said, I speak to half a million people a week.
                                         
                                        I said, I speak to half a million people a week on a podcast.
                                         
                                        And I said, I'll say very good things about Fleming.
                                         
                                        I thought you finally pulled that card at Fleming's.
                                         
                                        I pulled a card and it worked.
                                         
                                        I got a knife for 12.50.
                                         
                                        And I'm like,
                                         
    
                                        Oh, they charge you 1250?
                                         
                                        Oh, they charge me these pieces of shit and they refused to give me a fork.
                                         
                                        But I'm like, screaming and yelling.
                                         
                                        I got to pull rank for a fucking 1250.
                                         
                                        I'm like, I'm like, dude, but I'm not for ready.
                                         
                                        12.
                                         
                                        I mean, look, they get them for cheaper.
                                         
                                        Well, look, they have decent knives.
                                         
    
                                        But here's the deal.
                                         
                                        You go to a dollar store and they'll sell you like four steak knives for like three bucks.
                                         
                                        And you're, like, just give those away with take caffeine eat too.
                                         
                                        If I could, they'll cost you like a, 20 cents, you know?
                                         
                                        Listen, I know most people have utensils, but there's got to be a certain amount of people
                                         
                                        that for whatever reason you just don't have a steak knife.
                                         
                                        I don't, I don't have sick knives.
                                         
                                        I've been eating steak.
                                         
    
                                        I'm off keto with the moment because of my teeth.
                                         
                                        I had a number of teeth issues recently, multiple teeth.
                                         
                                        That's why you're off keto for the season.
                                         
                                        No, honestly, it's like it's hard to eat.
                                         
                                        steak when you have like i've got a bridge on one side that like is what was i to take out every time
                                         
                                        i eat and the other side they had a poloot and so i'm waiting for it to heal before they can do
                                         
                                        anything there it's this big gap there and it's a root canal thing behind that so i can't chew on either
                                         
                                        side of the mount i was like the dentist was like chew on the other side but he knew i'm like
                                         
    
                                        no i have that bridge you said you're going to try and fix oh yeah try a softer diet for a while
                                         
                                        yeah the dentist looked at you he's like well first things first just by observing
                                         
                                        you, I could tell you you're on keto, right?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        The diet for the fattest.
                                         
                                        Keto is the diet
                                         
                                        for the fattest people
                                         
                                        that I've ever met in my life,
                                         
    
                                        myself included.
                                         
                                        It's the diet.
                                         
                                        If you're over 300 pounds,
                                         
                                        you're on keto,
                                         
                                        is it the easiest diet?
                                         
                                        No, doctor, doctor.
                                         
                                        Doctor, I'm allowed to eat this much mayonnaise.
                                         
                                        It's just part of the diet.
                                         
    
                                        It's the easiest diet to sell the fat.
                                         
                                        fuck, it's basically like, listen, you're like
                                         
                                        creases, I've got to bust it on it.
                                         
                                        It's amazing because, like, yeah, look, all you got to do
                                         
                                        is not eat bread, but you can't use as much bacon, as much
                                         
                                        butter, as much fucking, whatever, steak.
                                         
                                        We still can't stick to it.
                                         
                                        You can't. And by the way, by the way,
                                         
    
                                        try to explain, you know, to, like, anyone that's ever
                                         
                                        been healthy, but look at you
                                         
                                        like you have since 19 at, you're like,
                                         
                                        Like, by the way, I can't have any grains, but do you have any bacon?
                                         
                                        Because I'm going to make a bacon and mayonnaise smoothie.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's really crazy.
                                         
                                        But I got to get on a version of it because it's like, the Forbes do make you feel like.
                                         
                                        No, I feel awful right now.
                                         
    
                                        I started drinking, basically told me he told me he going on a softer diet for a while.
                                         
                                        So I got right.
                                         
                                        So I really have a blender, it's a ninja blender, you know, decent quality.
                                         
                                        And so I started making smoothies for the first four days.
                                         
                                        But then I would just, you try to drinking smoothies for every meal,
                                         
                                        and you start getting blocked, not blocked up, but just full.
                                         
                                        It's like, it's like filling up a turduckin or something.
                                         
                                        Or like, what's that thing?
                                         
    
                                        I'm like foie gras, you know?
                                         
                                        What kind of smoothies were you having?
                                         
                                        Well, I was taking, all right, I'll tell you what I was doing.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So I put frozen berries, banana, almond milk, oats.
                                         
                                        raw oats and
                                         
                                        what else
                                         
                                        protein powder and I mix it together
                                         
    
                                        but you know
                                         
                                        I was making them too big
                                         
                                        and I was probably just drinking too much of it
                                         
                                        and too often
                                         
                                        and so I was just feeling very like
                                         
                                        just a full like because it's like
                                         
                                        it's like when someone's like
                                         
                                        putting glue inside of something you know what I mean
                                         
    
                                        when you inject something with a liquid
                                         
                                        like a mold like it was basically
                                         
                                        like drinking smoothies is a fact guy
                                         
                                        I just basically putting an injection mold into yourself
                                         
                                        It's not good
                                         
                                        The smoothie was
                                         
                                        Before keto
                                         
                                        It was a smoothie
                                         
    
                                        Like
                                         
                                        It's the classic
                                         
                                        It's the classic fat movement
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Well
                                         
                                        My mother
                                         
                                        Used to like make
                                         
                                        milkshakes in a half
                                         
    
                                        The powder
                                         
                                        The shit
                                         
                                        The smoothie was
                                         
                                        Before keto
                                         
                                        It was like
                                         
                                        Hey you like milk shakes
                                         
                                        What if you can drink
                                         
                                        Milkshakes
                                         
    
                                        Colsey
                                         
                                        And Blue's way
                                         
                                        You go yeah
                                         
                                        Why not
                                         
                                        Right
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's just like it's
                                         
                                        Carnation Instant Breakfast
                                         
                                        But they call it a weight law shake
                                         
    
                                        I mean, if anyone comes up and goes
                                         
                                        How about you do you eat like a human being
                                         
                                        We go, hey, fuck you, buddy
                                         
                                        Why don't you just be like
                                         
                                        A little rice, a little brown rice
                                         
                                        A little chicken, a little broccoli
                                         
                                        Hey, fuck you
                                         
                                        You don't understand
                                         
    
                                        It's called ketosis
                                         
                                        It's a metabolic state
                                         
                                        Your body goes through a different metabolic
                                         
                                        You gotta piss on a strip
                                         
                                        You're pissing on a strip?
                                         
                                        yeah yeah it's keto's a diet where you got to just constantly keep pissing all over your hands
                                         
                                        yeah it's disgusting uh but uh but yeah so i i don't have a steak knife is the point um so when i over
                                         
                                        the summer and in the fall when i was doing keto and eating steaks every day in the air fryer
                                         
    
                                        i was just like basically at the table with a chef's knife like a full like aian chef's knife
                                         
                                        and just cutting it up you know well yeah it works
                                         
                                        but it feels a little, you know,
                                         
                                        I feel like Hannibal Lecter, kind of.
                                         
                                        I just love when I have to fight for nothing.
                                         
                                        Like, this is my life.
                                         
                                        I fight and I fight and I fight for nothing.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                        Like, I'm put through the ringer.
                                         
                                        I got to jump through the hooves.
                                         
                                        I got to brag about my fucking podcast
                                         
                                        so that I could get a $12 night.
                                         
                                        I love how like, A, they're not getting in a club.
                                         
                                        They're charging you for it.
                                         
                                        It's not like, did they comp you with dessert at least?
                                         
                                        not only do they not copy a dessert
                                         
    
                                        they said they couldn't do the tuna tartar
                                         
                                        because it's raw
                                         
                                        and they couldn't do anything raw to go
                                         
                                        when I said
                                         
                                        I don't understand that
                                         
                                        they go well
                                         
                                        we just thought we did it's our policy
                                         
                                        doesn't make any sense
                                         
    
                                        oh I get it I get it
                                         
                                        because look I do get it now
                                         
                                        as I think about it because like
                                         
                                        you could leave it in your trunk for like eight hours in the sun
                                         
                                        and then like try it and you go to eat it
                                         
                                        and you get sick
                                         
                                        Yeah, wouldn't that be my fault?
                                         
                                        Yeah, but you know
                                         
    
                                        If I left to a tartar in the car in the car
                                         
                                        Overnight
                                         
                                        Well, everyone's afraid to get in sued
                                         
                                        Because they see these like
                                         
                                        Quote on quote, quote, frivolous lawsuits
                                         
                                        That the media's put out there
                                         
                                        I was like, oh, old woman
                                         
                                        I was going to start screaming
                                         
    
                                        I have COVID
                                         
                                        I have COVID
                                         
                                        Just let me eat one more meal
                                         
                                        Let me eat one more goddamn meal
                                         
                                        My wife's died of COVID
                                         
                                        what kind of steak did you get
                                         
                                        a petite filet
                                         
                                        what is that exactly a petite filet
                                         
    
                                        just a small filet mignon a petite filet
                                         
                                        that's not much you need more than that
                                         
                                        what are they bang you for that
                                         
                                        50 bucks
                                         
                                        50 bucks for the petite filet
                                         
                                        I've got crad cakes and lobster bits
                                         
                                        oh okay
                                         
                                        but still that seems like
                                         
    
                                        the filet mignon like Wollinski's
                                         
                                        wasn't even 50 bucks was it or it was just that
                                         
                                        like this place
                                         
                                        they're all banging you they're all banging you now
                                         
                                        I mean the prices of steak
                                         
                                        they're like stupid like
                                         
                                        ribos are $112 for no reason
                                         
                                        what it's gone out of control
                                         
    
                                        but the ones we used to get well let's get the Colorado
                                         
                                        ribo like just regular one like that
                                         
                                        those were like 57
                                         
                                        I don't know what those have I haven't been there in a year
                                         
                                        but like any steakhouse now
                                         
                                        they're all just absurd like
                                         
                                        $100 used to mean a steak for two people.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Now it means like one person.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like a full-on porterhouse or two was like a buck 20,
                                         
                                        like a high-end steakhouse, it was?
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        This is, this is the point of COVID.
                                         
                                        It's to, it's to draw people into a situation
                                         
                                        where they have to like pay premium prices for like, you know.
                                         
                                        What is that?
                                         
    
                                        You playing piano?
                                         
                                        I'm going to get so many people mad at me to the Kansas Owens episodes
                                         
                                        because I have fans on the trout
                                         
                                        and it's like I don't really challenge her
                                         
                                        because I just kind of giggle
                                         
                                        and shit at what she says
                                         
                                        like I also like
                                         
                                        I'm just not that kind of interview
                                         
    
                                        I just don't give a shit
                                         
                                        you're not going to deepunk people
                                         
                                        really giveish
                                         
                                        I don't care
                                         
                                        that's the other thing
                                         
                                        it's like this whole idea
                                         
                                        that I gotta care
                                         
                                        like she's like you know
                                         
    
                                        I said I said
                                         
                                        I said like
                                         
                                        I said hey
                                         
                                        it seems to
                                         
                                        it seems to make sense
                                         
                                        to people
                                         
                                        that like black people
                                         
                                        have had a harder time of it
                                         
    
                                        America's the white people and she's like
                                         
                                        what do you mean and I just started laughing
                                         
                                        because I don't I start laughing
                                         
                                        I'm like what a way I mean
                                         
                                        I'm then I start going
                                         
                                        into like the redlining and that
                                         
                                        I'm like what about this and that
                                         
                                        and she starts
                                         
    
                                        screaming all right listen
                                         
                                        this is the way she feels like
                                         
                                        you know this isn't a fucking
                                         
                                        this isn't like some great
                                         
                                        journalistic endeavor here
                                         
                                        you know I really
                                         
                                        two things a you're not going to convince her
                                         
                                        and the people would say
                                         
    
                                        well you shouldn't be platforming her
                                         
                                        if you're going to agree with that
                                         
                                        you're going to find her
                                         
                                        like no one needs to platform her
                                         
                                        she's a huge star
                                         
                                        yeah it's like
                                         
                                        she's a massive star
                                         
                                        we get this
                                         
    
                                        interesting stuff with her
                                         
                                        she's like you know
                                         
                                        we get her to admit
                                         
                                        that maybe we should decriminalize
                                         
                                        the drugs here
                                         
                                        how about we decriminalize the drugs
                                         
                                        you have a like a conversation
                                         
                                        I would have with somebody at lunch
                                         
    
                                        Can you imagine if, like, one of your listeners, your diehard fans is listening?
                                         
                                        Here's your like, like, you know, whatever objection.
                                         
                                        Like, oh, don't you think they have heart?
                                         
                                        Here's her pitch and goes, you know, just fat fuck's wrong.
                                         
                                        She's on to something.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's like, what am I supposed to say?
                                         
                                        Like, this is the problem with this shit.
                                         
    
                                        No, it's ridiculous.
                                         
                                        I mean, look, she's a ridiculous part.
                                         
                                        Like, she's a ridiculous.
                                         
                                        She knows she's, like, she knows what we spent the whole, or all podcast talking.
                                         
                                        about people like her.
                                         
                                        Just like,
                                         
                                        it's old school grift.
                                         
                                        It's whatever,
                                         
    
                                        the woman feels the way she feels.
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        whether it's,
                                         
                                        I'm not in her heart.
                                         
                                        I'm not in her head.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        So like whatever,
                                         
                                        why ever she feels that she feels,
                                         
    
                                        the woman does seem to feel the way she feels.
                                         
                                        What do you want me to do?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        what am I supposed to do?
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        she goes,
                                         
                                        she goes,
                                         
    
                                        well,
                                         
                                        your argument is proven wrong
                                         
                                        because she goes,
                                         
                                        your attitude on abortion is based on,
                                         
                                        the generation you grew up in
                                         
                                        and I go
                                         
                                        yeah but my attitude that I think it's okay
                                         
                                        that you vote is also based on that
                                         
    
                                        she goes yeah there's good things
                                         
                                        she goes yeah there's good
                                         
                                        so I'm like well
                                         
                                        I mean I mean you know
                                         
                                        it's not really made to go too deep
                                         
                                        but am I even trying to you know look
                                         
                                        she's it's
                                         
                                        this is not her fault
                                         
    
                                        if people didn't buy it
                                         
                                        it's like it's capitalism at this point
                                         
                                        like this is not this is not like I mean
                                         
                                        it's different than like actual hate crime shit
                                         
                                        or whatever you want to call
                                         
                                        you know, like, Richard Spanthe, what are those guys?
                                         
                                        It's like, if people want to buy this, it's, it's, it's, it's, they're the, they're at fault.
                                         
                                        It's, you know, if she, if, if, if she's going to come in, like, there's legitimate marks is the point.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I mean, I don't, I just, I thought it was a good episode.
                                         
                                        She's fun.
                                         
                                        I'm glad she came on, you know.
                                         
                                        No, she, look, she's a charismatic figure.
                                         
                                        There's a great sense of humor. It's kind of like, I don't know, folks, go, go find, go fun, like this people on my
                                         
                                        Instagram that are like I'll shoot this one out it's like well you go do that you do that that's
                                         
                                        okay I like how people try like trying to like take you down as if like anyone put you
                                         
                                        propped you up in the first place yeah it's like it's like yeah it's like yeah how about you sit
                                         
    
                                        that one out you know how about you sit that one out if you don't you don't want to hear what you
                                         
                                        got to say you don't have to that's a great thing about America you have the ability to not
                                         
                                        listen you don't have to announce you're not listening
                                         
                                        but everyone does everyone does
                                         
                                        everyone's got to go hey Tim I'm a big fan
                                         
                                        but I'm going to sit this one out
                                         
                                        well that's good
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
    
                                        good for you
                                         
                                        you know you know I don't know
                                         
                                        I mean it was a
                                         
                                        fun episode
                                         
                                        this is the thing when you have guessed
                                         
                                        it's like there's two ways you can do an interview
                                         
                                        you can go at them
                                         
                                        be very combative
                                         
    
                                        try to create like some viral moment
                                         
                                        of you being combative
                                         
                                        or you could just go
                                         
                                        fuck it
                                         
                                        which is kind of what I do
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
                                        I want to grip
                                         
                                        like I'm more interested
                                         
    
                                        in the spiel
                                         
                                        and like
                                         
                                        if I'm getting sold
                                         
                                        by a salesman
                                         
                                        maybe it's because I used to be in sales
                                         
                                        I sit back and I'm like
                                         
                                        let him go
                                         
                                        let him rip
                                         
    
                                        yeah I know it's not
                                         
                                        I know the rates are wrong
                                         
                                        I know he's not
                                         
                                        he's not able to do what he says
                                         
                                        but let him go
                                         
                                        he's in his he's in a moment
                                         
                                        he's you know
                                         
                                        let's let him
                                         
    
                                        go and it's kind of the way I feel about her
                                         
                                        I'm like she's telling and I'm just sitting there
                                         
                                        going like okay
                                         
                                        we'll see what you got
                                         
                                        I look
                                         
                                        I'm sure it's a great episode
                                         
                                        fuck everyone
                                         
                                        what are we preserving at this point
                                         
    
                                        what are we even like
                                         
                                        what are we arguing like
                                         
                                        the president
                                         
                                        you're like I don't know you get a griff then
                                         
                                        I don't know you get a grift then
                                         
                                        what do you think is left in this country
                                         
                                        by the way it's not much left
                                         
                                        hey you know the president's like the president's
                                         
    
                                        still, like, you know, refusing to leave the White House.
                                         
                                        Or we can chew and eat gum at the same time. No, we can't.
                                         
                                        Like, well, we just focus on one thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                        The country's still having, like, 20-person Thanksgiving and coughing in their
                                         
                                        grandma's throat.
                                         
                                        Yeah. But you're going to worry about what Tim has in his show.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I, Whitney Cummings, a friend of mine comedian, gave me a lot of furniture.
                                         
                                        She gave me a lot of furniture, a high-end furniture, probably about $100,000
                                         
                                        dollars with a furniture.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        I'm going to give her something.
                                         
                                        I'm going to give her something. I'm going to give her, like, 20 grand or something.
                                         
                                        but she's given it to me
                                         
                                        for the house that I rented
                                         
    
                                        and I had never done a full move
                                         
                                        because I never owned anything
                                         
                                        so I always just left with like
                                         
                                        you saw how I moved
                                         
                                        but I was full a laundry bag with clothes
                                         
                                        and I would take out a laptop
                                         
                                        that was it
                                         
                                        You'd be offered me books that you were
                                         
    
                                        like your Norman Miller books
                                         
                                        and like you know
                                         
                                        just garbage all over your floor
                                         
                                        I mean look up until a year ago
                                         
                                        you lived like a you know a pauper
                                         
                                        Absolutely
                                         
                                        and this is the first
                                         
                                        legitimate and so the moving was like
                                         
    
                                        $1,200 to move
                                         
                                        and then the three guys worked all
                                         
                                        Thanksgiving. Wait, that was only $1,200 for the move?
                                         
                                        To move all that stuff? Only $1,200 for the
                                         
                                        move. That seemed pretty reasonable. But then
                                         
                                        I was fine. So I gave me an $800
                                         
                                        tip because they worked all of Thanksgiving
                                         
                                        and it was three guys. So at least
                                         
    
                                        it's like two
                                         
                                        something each, right? Two 50,
                                         
                                        two 60. Like, and they were so
                                         
                                        happy, man. They were so
                                         
                                        grateful for it.
                                         
                                        But what a fucking
                                         
                                        what a move
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        what a fucking
                                         
                                        what you got a nice dining room table
                                         
                                        Ben was supposed to come up
                                         
                                        Ben was supposed to come over
                                         
                                        but supposedly he had Thanksgiving plans
                                         
                                        with his wife
                                         
                                        at 8 o'clock in the morning
                                         
                                        Ben is your podcast producer
                                         
    
                                        slash personal assistant
                                         
                                        for those who don't know
                                         
                                        yeah Ben supposedly had
                                         
                                        I don't know what they were doing
                                         
                                        they went to the church trot
                                         
                                        I guess at 8 o'clock in the morning
                                         
                                        so he couldn't come over and help
                                         
                                        I don't know what he was doing
                                         
    
                                        he was he was
                                         
                                        I get every
                                         
                                        And now I text him
                                         
                                        I go
                                         
                                        What are you doing tomorrow
                                         
                                        Are you trick-or-treating
                                         
                                        Or can we do a little work
                                         
                                        Are we doing
                                         
    
                                        Are you Christmas caroling?
                                         
                                        Are you caroling?
                                         
                                        Or can you come over a few hours
                                         
                                        To hang out of the work?
                                         
                                        Did he really go on a turkey trite this morning?
                                         
                                        No, I don't know what he did
                                         
                                        I don't know what he did
                                         
                                        But
                                         
    
                                        It's hard finding, you know, good people
                                         
                                        Well, you know
                                         
                                        He's great
                                         
                                        But at the end of the day
                                         
                                        It's like, you know
                                         
                                        Nobody works
                                         
                                        And you know
                                         
                                        Everybody works
                                         
    
                                        And then if you ask anyone that's under 30
                                         
                                        or you tell them that you don't like the job days on,
                                         
                                        they cry and they have a cancer.
                                         
                                        They tell you they love you.
                                         
                                        I mean, that's what that's, that's a new way to get over
                                         
                                        is you just start crying, I love you,
                                         
                                        I just, I'm so sorry, I disappointed you.
                                         
                                        And then you don't change your behavior at all.
                                         
    
                                        That's the way to do it.
                                         
                                        This is a phenomenon I've witnessed as well.
                                         
                                        It's just just kind of infantilized,
                                         
                                        not just, you know, amongst a men,
                                         
                                        but everyone's just an emotional basket case.
                                         
                                        And they bring.
                                         
                                        break down, they start crying. Do you think that that's like, that's actually legitimate,
                                         
                                        like they actually just are fragile, or do you think they just learn from their weak parents
                                         
    
                                        to just, well, I'll just throw a tantrum and like get my way?
                                         
                                        I think it's a little bit of both. I do think people are fragile now, though. As much as I'd
                                         
                                        like to see it to say these kids are like diabolical. I do think they're fragile. I really do.
                                         
                                        I do believe we have this learned fragility, as the great Rush Limbaugh would say,
                                         
                                        learned helplessness, learned fragility.
                                         
                                        There's a, who's still alive, by the way.
                                         
                                        He was like, he's a state 5 lung cancer,
                                         
                                        he's 17 lung cancer.
                                         
    
                                        He got that middle ago ago.
                                         
                                        He was going to be the only one to survive COVID.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I sent him an email in Palm Beach.
                                         
                                        I'm like, hey, man, I am a fan.
                                         
                                        Can I interview you?
                                         
                                        I'm course he's never responded.
                                         
                                        You know, of course.
                                         
    
                                        But.
                                         
                                        Do you think he just babes naked in a bathtub with that bedel on?
                                         
                                        I mean, if he's not, he's making a mistake.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's just a ball and move.
                                         
                                        What did you say?
                                         
                                        He's bathed naked with one on?
                                         
                                        That medal.
                                         
    
                                        Remember Trump put that medal on him last year?
                                         
                                        The State of the Union?
                                         
                                        He just bathed naked.
                                         
                                        They just find his dead body floating in a tub naked with that Congressional Medal of Freedom.
                                         
                                        He was a real hero.
                                         
                                        He was a man.
                                         
                                        But it's learned for Jillian, meaning like, there was something that happened in the country.
                                         
                                        And I don't know when it happened.
                                         
    
                                        Everything became about your emotions.
                                         
                                        everything became about how you were feeling and your mental health and wellness and self-care
                                         
                                        and everything became about how you were feeling every moment of the day and you needed to
                                         
                                        like the kids did out the other day of car you opened for me who's great but like he used
                                         
                                        his word that quality of life I just wanted a great quality of life I'm like no one I know grew
                                         
                                        up using that terminology people like I want a roof over my head but now these kids have
                                         
                                        been like they've been like told that like that their mental constitution is entirely
                                         
                                        dependent on them being comfortable and it's I understand mental health and being mentally
                                         
    
                                        healthy but these kids are now told like hey your mental health is entirely dependent on
                                         
                                        everybody around you telling you how great you are and loving you at every minute every great
                                         
                                        artist 20 years ago including yourself was living in the crack den at his age and he's just I
                                         
                                        wrong, great quality of life.
                                         
                                        Like, like, you imagine, like, you know,
                                         
                                        only guys in the 60s and the 70,
                                         
                                        even these guys who came up in the 80s,
                                         
                                        probably, like, lived in, like, fucking shitty,
                                         
    
                                        like, you know, run-down areas in New York City.
                                         
                                        These guys in comedy, I mean, even,
                                         
                                        like, it's just the level of...
                                         
                                        You know what it is?
                                         
                                        So you can't get upset with anyone under 30
                                         
                                        because they will literally cry.
                                         
                                        I mean, they will literally cry,
                                         
                                        and they will tell you that they're so sorry
                                         
    
                                        and they need to go to therapy.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, dude, I wanted you to work
                                         
                                        for two hours on the morning of Thanksgiving
                                         
                                        where there's a pandemic
                                         
                                        and there's nothing going on
                                         
                                        we're getting free
                                         
                                        not free but we're getting heavily discounted
                                         
                                        furniture for our podcast video
                                         
    
                                        and it's like
                                         
                                        how about we work for two hours
                                         
                                        and then he sends you a whole big thing back
                                         
                                        he's like hey man I'm sorry
                                         
                                        I didn't communicate with you that I was busy
                                         
                                        I got to stop doing this
                                         
                                        you know your own more
                                         
                                        I got to go to therapy
                                         
    
                                        I'm like you don't have to go to therapy
                                         
                                        just come yeah it's like I am old
                                         
                                        then just do the thing
                                         
                                        do the job like
                                         
                                        It's every which way but the job.
                                         
                                        It's like, I'm going to go to therapy.
                                         
                                        I'm going to go on a silent retreat.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        It's like, he just goes to therapy.
                                         
                                        That's more time he's not available.
                                         
                                        It's like, no, this isn't the solution.
                                         
                                        I have to work on my chakra.
                                         
                                        How great would it be if you went to therapy
                                         
                                        and he's playing the situation.
                                         
                                        Therapers look at him and why don't you fucking go help the guy move?
                                         
                                        Is that your job?
                                         
    
                                        Isn't that your job?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's a therapy session.
                                         
                                        It should be over 20 minutes.
                                         
                                        yeah but that's the thing
                                         
                                        they're all weaned on therapy
                                         
                                        that's the grift it's just like
                                         
                                        no one these therapists could probably fix
                                         
                                        people in a week
                                         
    
                                        go hey stop
                                         
                                        stop hitting your kids
                                         
                                        you know stop drinking
                                         
                                        so much of it is so much of it is very
                                         
                                        people are very like
                                         
                                        life is hard
                                         
                                        this is what people should like
                                         
                                        get through their heads right
                                         
    
                                        which none of this generation
                                         
                                        under 30 seems to get
                                         
                                        life is hard
                                         
                                        for the majority of people on the
                                         
                                        planet Earth, it's brutal, short, and horrible, okay? Life. Now there's moments of levity and
                                         
                                        fun and whatever, but it's a tough thing. Life is hard. This is like what these people are
                                         
                                        finding out. It can be great, but not all the time, not every minute, not every second. Most of
                                         
                                        what you have to do in life is drudgery. You're saying, oh, you've got to do this, I love performing,
                                         
    
                                        how much of that is, you know, how much of my day is, like, getting on a plane,
                                         
                                        checking a hotel, like, everything I hate to get to something that I love to do.
                                         
                                        So when I'm like, hey, man, can we move the tables for two hours,
                                         
                                        it becomes like this strange thing where I'm like, I'm like taking the unfun world
                                         
                                        and like injecting it into the reality of like,
                                         
                                        But it's Thanksgiving.
                                         
                                        It's Thanksgiving.
                                         
                                        Thanksgiving is fun.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, how many?
                                         
                                        For me.
                                         
                                        How many years have we been making this point?
                                         
                                        Like, it's for fucking children.
                                         
                                        All these holidays are for children.
                                         
                                        They're all for children, but these are children.
                                         
                                        You know, so people are like, I'm going to try to.
                                         
                                        I didn't request the whole Thanksgiving.
                                         
    
                                        I wasn't like the whole day.
                                         
                                        I was like, hey, about a couple hours in the morning.
                                         
                                        And, you know, it became.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I get it.
                                         
                                        I get it, man.
                                         
                                        I remember being on a job, and, like, you know, I was like 18 working at a retail store,
                                         
                                        and, like, my manager was like, and it wasn't one of these, like, corporate real-tape,
                                         
                                        real-tail, you're a smaller shop.
                                         
    
                                        I was like, hey, yeah, I wanted to take my birthday off.
                                         
                                        He's like, your birthday.
                                         
                                        How old are you?
                                         
                                        Like, I mean, like, and you get that.
                                         
                                        You hate your birthdays.
                                         
                                        You don't give a shit about them.
                                         
                                        But I'm, like, these guys are, like, 26, 27.
                                         
                                        Like, no one's ever checked them on this stuff.
                                         
    
                                        It's crazy.
                                         
                                        But, uh...
                                         
                                        It's like...
                                         
                                        There's something about it
                                         
                                        that I think goes back
                                         
                                        to like
                                         
                                        this idea, which is now
                                         
                                        very popular. This is a very, very popular idea
                                         
    
                                        and I don't know where this came from.
                                         
                                        This idea of
                                         
                                        like
                                         
                                        balance,
                                         
                                        you know, where everybody's like,
                                         
                                        I want a balanced
                                         
                                        life. I want everything to be balanced.
                                         
                                        So I need to have equal parts
                                         
    
                                        because balance is, you know,
                                         
                                        essentially like equal.
                                         
                                        So I need to have equal parts of everything all the time.
                                         
                                        I need equal parts love, equal parts work, equal parts fun, equal parts health,
                                         
                                        equal part success.
                                         
                                        And there was this idea that when I grew up, you would maybe make sacrifices for years.
                                         
                                        Many people made sacrifices for the majority of their lives.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, because like Michael Jordan was all about balance and well-roundedness.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he was very, it was very balanced, you know.
                                         
                                        So this is what I mean.
                                         
                                        And I think that, like, there's this idea that, like, well, I just can't work for two hours on Thanksgiving because that's a holiday.
                                         
                                        And that's when I have my time with my wife.
                                         
                                        And I understand that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but you know what?
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        You know who's into that is like Norwegians or like Scandinavia?
                                         
                                        Like, these northern countries.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there's also people that work at Geico.
                                         
                                        Like, dude, go work.
                                         
                                        No, but that's my point.
                                         
                                        It's like, but these people are like, Dan, like, wants to be a star.
                                         
                                        but also I want to live like, you know, a balanced IKEA life.
                                         
    
                                        And it's like we have one of the other.
                                         
                                        Well, the other thing is like, listen, there's a value
                                         
                                        to living in a very normal humdrum life.
                                         
                                        What I'm trying to do and what people in my business are trying to do
                                         
                                        is kind of fucking wild and crazy.
                                         
                                        And we have to not like, we can't observe every convention
                                         
                                        that regular people do.
                                         
                                        So sometimes things might need to get done on a holiday.
                                         
    
                                        Sometimes things might need to get done during a time.
                                         
                                        Sometimes things might need to get done at 2 o'clock in the morning, because I feel like working at 2 o'clock in the morning. And if I feel like working at 2 o'clock in the morning, that's a problem. And if you don't feel like working at 2 o'clock the morning, that's okay, you don't have to work with me and for me. And I'm not mad at him. I'm just saying that like this is when you have an unconventional life, you're signing up for an unconventional life. And that life means you don't have to work as much as everyone else, never have to really clock in. But you might have to work at odd time.
                                         
                                        You might have to work at weird time.
                                         
                                        You might have to, like, you know, do things that seem crazy.
                                         
                                        Like, you know, do things that other people wouldn't do.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm sure, like, his wife was like, well, why do you have to help move this stuff
                                         
                                        and it was out?
                                         
                                        And it's like, well, number one, it's a podcast table for the studio.
                                         
    
                                        Number two, it's work.
                                         
                                        Like, going and emptying shit out that we're going to fucking use is work.
                                         
                                        And we've got to clean stuff off and empty drawers.
                                         
                                        Like, it's a job.
                                         
                                        then listen, we made it on Thanksgiving because that's what the movers could do it,
                                         
                                        because the two days that were open with Thanksgiving in December 6th.
                                         
                                        And those were the two days.
                                         
                                        And it's like, you know, if you choose to do it on Thanksgiving, you know, it's Thanksgiving.
                                         
    
                                        Now, I, you know, my head, I'm like, it's a pandemic.
                                         
                                        Nobody's having Thanksgiving.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        You can have Thanksgiving any day, any night.
                                         
                                        So I think it's just people that say they want to take something all the way and go all the way and go really hard and work.
                                         
                                        but at the end of the day
                                         
                                        they really want to be a basic pitch
                                         
                                        and there's nothing wrong with that
                                         
    
                                        but that's kind of deep down who a lot
                                         
                                        most people are they're like yeah
                                         
                                        I just want I just
                                         
                                        it's like that movie searching for Bobby Fisher
                                         
                                        like the kid realized I don't want to be a great chess
                                         
                                        player um
                                         
                                        and the movie may see you see that movie right
                                         
                                        yeah yeah so it's a bad as his chest kid
                                         
    
                                        and he's like his dad is pushing him hard
                                         
                                        because he discovers chess and he's got
                                         
                                        you know his kid's like seven or eight
                                         
                                        he's a breakdown and then finally he realized
                                         
                                        oh you should be able to play baseball and all this
                                         
                                        shit and the movie makes it seem like he was
                                         
                                        able to do both but then I got into chess
                                         
                                        later on in life and I realized
                                         
    
                                        oh yeah this kid's like a master but he
                                         
                                        never made the grandmaster let alone become
                                         
                                        like a champion like he's a loser
                                         
                                        I knew people who played with him in Washington Square Park
                                         
                                        it's a loser so it's like you know
                                         
                                        it's fine kid which kid is it Josh Waitskine you know
                                         
                                        he was doing the fucking tutorials on chess master
                                         
                                        5,000 you know I got for Christmas
                                         
    
                                        one year
                                         
                                        Have you watched the Queen's Gambit?
                                         
                                        No, it seems insane.
                                         
                                        I haven't seen the trailer even, but it's...
                                         
                                        I mean, I watched three episodes.
                                         
                                        I couldn't do it.
                                         
                                        I was, I mean, it's just...
                                         
                                        Look, the people who are great at chess,
                                         
    
                                        I mean, you have on one side of Bobby Fisher,
                                         
                                        who's just like, we've played his tapes on the old show.
                                         
                                        Like him calling in the 9-11 to the Argentine radio station.
                                         
                                        Great.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's a great day, Pablo.
                                         
                                        was fucking blaming the Jews for everything
                                         
                                        I mean that to me that's the real
                                         
                                        Queen's Gambit I mean but I want that
                                         
    
                                        I want to watch that where's that series
                                         
                                        on Netflix about Bobby Fisher's screaming about
                                         
                                        Jews yeah they do everything except for that
                                         
                                        more interesting it's like how did he get there
                                         
                                        someone explain how he got there
                                         
                                        and then you've got Gary Caspar who's getting like
                                         
                                        poisoned by Putin he's trying to become
                                         
                                        the governor of Georgia or some shit
                                         
    
                                        I don't know what he's doing but you know
                                         
                                        they're a crazy bunch
                                         
                                        and uh you know it is
                                         
                                        I mean chess is just kind of
                                         
                                        every idiot plays chess now
                                         
                                        when we grew up
                                         
                                        it was a thing where like it seemed smart
                                         
                                        I was on the chess team
                                         
    
                                        I was a captain
                                         
                                        in my chess club in high school
                                         
                                        and it seemed like
                                         
                                        but now every like every moron you see
                                         
                                        you know waiting for the bus is playing chess
                                         
                                        online with each other
                                         
                                        the whole mystique is ruined
                                         
                                        there's no more
                                         
    
                                        it's not it's not a noble pursuit anymore
                                         
                                        now it's just like kids who play online poker
                                         
                                        might as well be the same thing
                                         
                                        but the champion right now is like 15
                                         
                                        he's just some guy who's like
                                         
                                        you know, playing World of Warcraft on one screen,
                                         
                                        playing chess on 15 on the, you know, 15 screens on the other.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, I mean, I, I just think that, like,
                                         
    
                                        so much of everything now just bored, I'm just bored.
                                         
                                        And I don't want to be as bad.
                                         
                                        You know, I just like, when I watch something, I'm like,
                                         
                                        I'm just boring.
                                         
                                        I'm bored.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        It's, we're in, like, the second wave, the second lockdown,
                                         
                                        Trump's just don't let me do it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, whatever wave we're in, I'm bored by.
                                         
                                        I know it's horrible and people get sick and I hope they don't, you know, I'm not going anywhere.
                                         
                                        I just thought, like, I find every expression of culture boring.
                                         
                                        I find every argument boring.
                                         
                                        I find every person making any other.
                                         
                                        Like, people are mad about a Jordan Peterson book.
                                         
                                        Again, the guy's been in a coma for a year or nobody's, I can't even like.
                                         
                                        Does he have a new book?
                                         
    
                                        The guy's brain was wiped clean.
                                         
                                        He has got a new book.
                                         
                                        close 12 more rules for life
                                         
                                        I couldn't even write that
                                         
                                        it wasn't his brain wiped clean
                                         
                                        like what's the fuck happened?
                                         
                                        His like he's like
                                         
                                        you know cam girl daughter
                                         
    
                                        probably goes straight for him
                                         
                                        right so I'm just like
                                         
                                        people are
                                         
                                        people are
                                         
                                        mad
                                         
                                        Penguin publishing house
                                         
                                        they had a big thing through a fan
                                         
                                        I can't believe you're published
                                         
    
                                        to a piece of book
                                         
                                        and I'm like
                                         
                                        wasn't this a new story
                                         
                                        like two years ago
                                         
                                        like this guy
                                         
                                        The guy's a kook, right?
                                         
                                        The guy's, like, I mean, a lot of his lectures are kind of interesting.
                                         
                                        Like, you know, his old, the old school stuff he was doing.
                                         
    
                                        But no one cares about him anymore.
                                         
                                        It's like they're making him relevant.
                                         
                                        It's like the guy, you're mad about it.
                                         
                                        Also, the worst thing he did was say, like, hey, I mean, he did say something weird about, like, marriage.
                                         
                                        But besides that, the worst thing he said was, like, take responsibility.
                                         
                                        It was like, this guy's a problem.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, it's also like, guys, just fucking don't.
                                         
                                        ever get over it.
                                         
    
                                        Don't you ever get over anything?
                                         
                                        Like, it's not important anymore.
                                         
                                        No one cares.
                                         
                                        It's amazing how this generation, this generate, yeah, well, a lot of notes to you
                                         
                                        that has a win.
                                         
                                        But it's amazing that this generation who is more Republican than Trump.
                                         
                                        This generation is like the least effective of any generation, probably as far as
                                         
                                        organizing and like, you know, all that shit is the most whipped up about every.
                                         
    
                                        like they're like little bees flying around and they need to feel like they've won like you know
                                         
                                        the little civil rights movement was able to like like shift the needle over years gradually because
                                         
                                        they were just you know like you know smart methodical and they've been you know and and can you know
                                         
                                        was persistent and like these people are just hopping from like thing to thing every week and
                                         
                                        it's just what do you like who who's your target like what do we what do we even we're just
                                         
                                        against like uh anyone who sounds confident is that that that the thing?
                                         
                                        anyone who sounds like
                                         
                                        anyone who doesn't
                                         
    
                                        who isn't kind of like just subservient
                                         
                                        and go oh I'm a real big fucking
                                         
                                        white people I might make it as a race thing
                                         
                                        I'm just like how much of a fuck
                                         
                                        like anyone who's got any opinion
                                         
                                        that isn't like completely subservient
                                         
                                        is just like you know
                                         
                                        like villain number one
                                         
    
                                        I just can't imagine caring like
                                         
                                        yeah I can't imagine actually caring
                                         
                                        and I can't imagine a lot of these people actually care
                                         
                                        and they have to like grab themselves up for it
                                         
                                        and it's like you're making a new
                                         
                                        story when there doesn't need to be one, just
                                         
                                        publish a fucking book. It's not going to
                                         
                                        nearly sell as well as the first fucking book.
                                         
    
                                        No one fucking cares.
                                         
                                        Just let it go. It's so fucking
                                         
                                        annoying. The guy was in a Turkish
                                         
                                        like, you know, like prison having
                                         
                                        COVID fits like a week
                                         
                                        The guy
                                         
                                        was having fucking electric shock therapy
                                         
                                        in Russia.
                                         
    
                                        It's the point you always make about Milo.
                                         
                                        By the list to be on the skanks.
                                         
                                        You know, like everyone that got mad
                                         
                                        that he was going to be on the skanks and you're like
                                         
                                        he's in the basement of a Mexican restaurant
                                         
                                        in Miami Island City
                                         
                                        he's lost already
                                         
                                        Yeah I just
                                         
    
                                        I don't know man
                                         
                                        It's still boring right now
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        I get it
                                         
                                        Because this is how you become a basic bitch
                                         
                                        Like I can kind of feel myself doing it
                                         
                                        Like this is how you just start getting interested in cars
                                         
                                        And like oh I want to get this type of grill
                                         
    
                                        Like I get it
                                         
                                        Because after a while you start realizing like
                                         
                                        Oh there are no solutions
                                         
                                        It ain't gonna work
                                         
                                        And you're like okay
                                         
                                        I guess I should just start like
                                         
                                        I like now I look at the birds in my backyard and I'm like
                                         
                                        and I'm like is this how my father gets so like checked out
                                         
    
                                        like my dad's completely just checked out
                                         
                                        I'm like this is how it happens because like 10 years from now
                                         
                                        people are still going to be mad about Jordan Peterson
                                         
                                        and I can either pay attention to that or look at my back start
                                         
                                        and be like is that a sin you know like that's what happens
                                         
                                        I just like fucking stupid uh Hank Paulson
                                         
                                        and the fucking you know in the movie
                                         
                                        to make the fail movie he's just like looking at birds
                                         
    
                                        where the economy's collapsing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, I think that's where I'm going to end up.
                                         
                                        It's not a bad hobby.
                                         
                                        Honestly, I used to sell, you know, these things.
                                         
                                        You get a nice pair of like Zorovsky binoculars or something.
                                         
                                        Looking at birds is nice when you're looking through a nice piece of glass.
                                         
                                        It can be a nice hobby for you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, you just got to start getting into something, man.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, this is a problem with politics and fucking culture.
                                         
                                        It's like you just got to start getting into something.
                                         
                                        It's like we're circling the drain in the society.
                                         
                                        I can't even challenge people on their ideas anymore.
                                         
                                        I just kind of giggle.
                                         
                                        And I just, you don't want to have fun and be funny.
                                         
                                        And, like, this revolutionary spirit, it doesn't exist.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        This is so stupid.
                                         
                                        And you just got to kind of, unfortunately, check out.
                                         
                                        You've got to check out after a while, you know?
                                         
                                        I think a lot of people, like, they get this illusion not so much because of, like, how hard it is to fight to fight.
                                         
                                        but when you realize the people you're fighting
                                         
                                        how full of shit the people you're fighting with are
                                         
                                        you know what I mean I remember when I remember
                                         
                                        like when I was like oh stand-up comedy
                                         
    
                                        is going out
                                         
                                        I didn't know how
                                         
                                        this seems like a pretty definitive blow
                                         
                                        to it but
                                         
                                        you know watching that art form
                                         
                                        sail off into a relevancy
                                         
                                        and not you know
                                         
                                        because even of the pandemic really
                                         
    
                                        but because technology
                                         
                                        has just kind of
                                         
                                        flattened everything and it's given everybody the ability to be funny and then once everyone
                                         
                                        has the ability to be funny you go well if the neighbor is funny you know and they put something
                                         
                                        on youtube or whatever why do i care about a guy that probably isn't any isn't actually funny
                                         
                                        who's worked for years to get funny like why because most people just want to laugh they don't respect
                                         
                                        the craft of comedy right that's the same way i look at the media landscape and the public
                                         
                                        intellectuals, it's like, well, most people just want to hear something, right?
                                         
    
                                        They don't care that you like, you know, went places and worked places and studied and
                                         
                                        like crafted your views in any specific way and challenged them and, you know,
                                         
                                        or received accolades and won Pulitzer.
                                         
                                        They give a shit.
                                         
                                        Well, it's like, you know, if some guy has some fucking coin trick in front of you,
                                         
                                        you might be impressed.
                                         
                                        And then, like, pendulum, comes out.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's bullshit.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I can see his fucking movements and stuff.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know what this is.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm just, it's just hyper fucking focus, which magic doesn't really have,
                                         
                                        but, like, it's just hyper focus on, like, yeah, like, the supposed to craft.
                                         
                                        When, like, it's supposed to be a Carniac.
                                         
                                        It's supposed to be, like, a fucking gimmick, you know?
                                         
                                        The occasional, you have the occasional, carl in, or the occasional, you know, hicks or whatever.
                                         
    
                                        But, you know, it's just there.
                                         
                                        It's supposed to go out and just have fun, get drunky chicken fingers.
                                         
                                        It's there, it's all chicken fingers.
                                         
                                        and then people trying to make into this life's this whole life's vocation
                                         
                                        I'm trying to get this guy
                                         
                                        I'm trying out in London to show me a dick
                                         
                                        because he just started
                                         
                                        bothering me on Instagram
                                         
    
                                        and then I'm just like to show me your dick
                                         
                                        show me to keep messing with me and he's like I'm going to do it
                                         
                                        I'm going to do it I don't think he's ever going to do it
                                         
                                        what you mean he was harassing you like hey you suck
                                         
                                        kind of thing no no no no
                                         
                                        we're just going on and on about you know
                                         
                                        you know, I should get
                                         
                                        Katie Hopkins
                                         
    
                                        something.
                                         
                                        Get Katie Hopkins
                                         
                                        who's Katie Hopkins?
                                         
                                        She's the white
                                         
                                        Candace Owens in Britain
                                         
                                        He's like,
                                         
                                        these immigrants
                                         
                                        They're all,
                                         
    
                                        they all smell all shit
                                         
                                        Oh,
                                         
                                        now like
                                         
                                        God don't see so
                                         
                                        What happened
                                         
                                        I don't bring
                                         
                                        I was supposed to be
                                         
                                        The higher class one
                                         
    
                                        They all smell
                                         
                                        I don't know what she says
                                         
                                        Whatever
                                         
                                        Like so
                                         
                                        No, but she does shit like that
                                         
                                        It's worse
                                         
                                        than that
                                         
                                        Whatever you know
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And I know they got problems
                                         
                                        with the events over there
                                         
                                        But I'm like
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
                                        Oh my man
                                         
                                        Just show me a dick
                                         
    
                                        They made him download Snapchat
                                         
                                        Because the pictures
                                         
                                        Disappear
                                         
                                        So is this guy
                                         
                                        Is this guy like
                                         
                                        Did you know he was gay
                                         
                                        Or you just kind of like
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
    
                                        He says he's bye
                                         
                                        And he's whatever
                                         
                                        I'm never gonna see
                                         
                                        He's fucking London
                                         
                                        I'm just bored
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
                                        I'm trying to ever show me
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
    
                                        You idiot
                                         
                                        He's like
                                         
                                        It's not a great dick
                                         
                                        I'm like I know
                                         
                                        You're British
                                         
                                        Doesn't matter
                                         
                                        I'm going to
                                         
                                        I'm bored
                                         
    
                                        I'm bored
                                         
                                        How much of the
                                         
                                        gay community online is like just
                                         
                                        wasting time.
                                         
                                        Is there a lot of time wasting?
                                         
                                        How much of all communities are just wasting time?
                                         
                                        What's good point?
                                         
                                        But I feel like
                                         
    
                                        I feel like
                                         
                                        That being said
                                         
                                        You know, the least of the day online was also
                                         
                                        kind of a waste most of the time.
                                         
                                        I just feel like it's annoying.
                                         
                                        It's all a waste of fucking time, dude.
                                         
                                        It's all a waste of time.
                                         
                                        I think at a certain point what happens is
                                         
    
                                        if you find someone halfway deep
                                         
                                        and you just go, all right, let's just do this
                                         
                                        because, like, and I mean, like, long-term even, because you go, you know what?
                                         
                                        Like, I'm just sick of this shit.
                                         
                                        No, I mean, how much, like, how much of life is supposed to be, you know,
                                         
                                        to vote to this fucking pursuit?
                                         
                                        Like, I don't know.
                                         
                                        It's crazy.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, it's just annoying.
                                         
                                        Have you been meeting people out there during the pandemic?
                                         
                                        It's hard.
                                         
                                        I mean, I've met a few people out in Palm Springs when I was there, and it's, but it's very hard.
                                         
                                        It's very difficult in the pandemic.
                                         
                                        It's like, it's fucking weird.
                                         
                                        and I mean more people on the road
                                         
                                        When I go on the road
                                         
    
                                        It's a lot more fun
                                         
                                        Because it's like yeah
                                         
                                        I'm only town for a while
                                         
                                        It's fun
                                         
                                        It's like we all get what it is
                                         
                                        And come back to L.A
                                         
                                        L.A just sucks
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Well yeah because
                                         
                                        Everybody's in L.A
                                         
                                        L.A is just the best looking place
                                         
                                        in the world
                                         
                                        Everybody's like
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        And it's just going to road
                                         
                                        And people are just impressed
                                         
    
                                        By a lot more
                                         
                                        It's just impressed
                                         
                                        Like
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Yeah in L.A
                                         
                                        It's like yeah
                                         
                                        You got a blue checkmark
                                         
                                        So is my dog
                                         
    
                                        You know
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        On the road, you go to Arizona, people are like, whoa.
                                         
                                        The problem is if you moved out, let's say you move to, where's a place you could move?
                                         
                                        Yeah, but like somewhere, let's say you moved to somewhere even like smaller even, like Richmond, Virginia.
                                         
                                        And you were like, you were a big star over there.
                                         
                                        Like, how weird would that get within like six months?
                                         
                                        Would you, would it just be like, a weird creep, like comedian who's just like, I'm saying it's like when people stop being impressed?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I just think the.
                                         
                                        road is to move. When you travel, you meet people
                                         
                                        travel. You move around, right? It's more
                                         
                                        fun that go on the road. You meet people. You got,
                                         
                                        hey, I'm here a couple
                                         
                                        of days. I'm performing. What are you up to?
                                         
                                        There's an urgency. There's like, all right, well, you want to
                                         
                                        eat? You know, and it's like,
                                         
    
                                        there's a novelty. And then you're back
                                         
                                        home, and it's like,
                                         
                                        it's just no one's hair. It's like,
                                         
                                        you know, it's also weird with the
                                         
                                        pandemic in politics now is insane
                                         
                                        like people putting shit in their bios on the bookup
                                         
                                        apps like you better be
                                         
                                        for defunding the police
                                         
    
                                        what is this? What is
                                         
                                        this? If you're not for fucking
                                         
                                        if you haven't read Trotsky I'm a sucking your
                                         
                                        dick. Yeah it's like you
                                         
                                        don't show up at this glory hole with your pro
                                         
                                        police. You're like wait a minute, hold
                                         
                                        off. I mean
                                         
                                        that used to be a guy you know it's like
                                         
    
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        they used to be a thing
                                         
                                        Didn't guys, like, gay guys just, like, hook up with cops and stuff?
                                         
                                        Or wasn't that, or were I just making it up in my head?
                                         
                                        Well, that's probably is the case.
                                         
                                        I'm sure it was the case to a certain street.
                                         
                                        It's probably gay cops.
                                         
                                        What a horrible Thanksgiving.
                                         
    
                                        What a horrible Thanksgiving, by the one, for everyone.
                                         
                                        Like, it just hit me how bad this has been.
                                         
                                        Like, this has been so atrocious.
                                         
                                        It's like, everybody in, everybody in the photos on Facebook looks already tagged.
                                         
                                        They're, like, involved in the chair.
                                         
                                        You have masks on, that people are cooking.
                                         
                                        It looks so.
                                         
                                        bad, dude. Do you see my turkey I made?
                                         
    
                                        It looked pretty good.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we, we, I, I, spank cocked it, baby, what's it called?
                                         
                                        Spank, spank, spancocked.
                                         
                                        I can't remember what we call it.
                                         
                                        What does that even mean?
                                         
                                        It's when you slice it down the backbone, you slice the backbone out and spitcock it?
                                         
                                        It can't, I haven't, I haven't written that.
                                         
                                        Spick, cock it sounds filthy.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, spit cock that.
                                         
                                        Look, look, look, there's a spitcock.
                                         
                                        Turkey. Spatchcock.
                                         
                                        That's it. Spatchcock.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, it's like...
                                         
                                        And, you know, so you kind of butterfly it out.
                                         
                                        Some guy on Instagram was like, that's not Spatchcock.
                                         
                                        It's because he got bunched up in the picture.
                                         
    
                                        But trust me, I cut the backbone out, all right?
                                         
                                        It was hard.
                                         
                                        I don't have a good knife, so it was hard to do.
                                         
                                        But, you know, we made a nice little two-person Thanksgiving.
                                         
                                        We had mashed potatoes handmade, and we had the stuffing.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, I also, you know, I could have eaten, you know, Denny's.
                                         
                                        Not Denny's.
                                         
                                        I didn't have eaten Denny's my life.
                                         
    
                                        what we're talking about, like whatever, takeout, McDonald's.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't understand this weird fixation on, like, you know, getting together and like,
                                         
                                        oh, it's just like, you think about, like, you know, what was like in the Soviet Union in, like,
                                         
                                        the 70s and, like, you know, people were just, like, living in shitty, shitty apartment blocks,
                                         
                                        just, you know, they just know what the government's, you know, people, they're coming back from Afghanistan
                                         
                                        with, like, like, missing and shit.
                                         
                                        And everyone's just fucking depressed and come back on heroin.
                                         
                                        And, like, we're all just like, oh, we can't eat fucking turrets.
                                         
    
                                        turkey together. It's just like
                                         
                                        it's not like going to fuss about it. It's not
                                         
                                        having a fucking deal. It's just just relax.
                                         
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        how funny would it be
                                         
                                        if they did get people to sign waivers
                                         
                                        that they couldn't go to the hospital
                                         
                                        if they went to like their Thanksgiving
                                         
    
                                        and they're like
                                         
                                        EMTs and they had to show up in their house
                                         
                                        and they go like no
                                         
                                        no they're like
                                         
                                        if their oxygen is low they're like
                                         
                                        slap it around like a fish on the floor
                                         
                                        And the MP's like, no, no, no.
                                         
                                        They show up, and they show up, the guy's been stabbed.
                                         
    
                                        Like, we still can't do anything.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                        It's just, like, the level of, I mean, people act like this is like, I mean, World War II and everything, you know, they act with this is World War II and we're rationing.
                                         
                                        And, like, it's just, I mean, the people who are out of work, it does suck.
                                         
                                        That's different.
                                         
                                        That's what, but that's the people bitching, the people are going, like, oh, I can't believe it's good fucking thanks.
                                         
                                        or like, you know, half the people
                                         
    
                                        going on Thanksgiving anyway
                                         
                                        and just, you know, they don't give a shit
                                         
                                        and the other guy was bitching about it
                                         
                                        and it's like, you know,
                                         
                                        people used to get drafted in this country
                                         
                                        what are we whining about?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, it's like, well,
                                         
                                        I feel like people should go to war.
                                         
    
                                        Send them to war and Kamala will.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wait, you can say Iran?
                                         
                                        I think Iran's now.
                                         
                                        be kind of weird
                                         
                                        I'm about trying to start a war with China
                                         
                                        which I maybe I have the power to do
                                         
                                        I don't know but it does
                                         
    
                                        we were talking before it does seem like
                                         
                                        you know more moral like this maybe this is a bioweapon
                                         
                                        just because like
                                         
                                        it doesn't seem like China seems to be doing fine
                                         
                                        unless they're lying about which they might be
                                         
                                        they're pretty tight-lipped
                                         
                                        but this would be like you know
                                         
                                        as we're seeing it develop
                                         
    
                                        over the wider picture now
                                         
                                        again not to be conspiratorial
                                         
                                        but it seems like
                                         
                                        if it was a weapon it did a good job
                                         
                                        you know I mean the economy's gutted
                                         
                                        the Dow was you know spiking which is you know
                                         
                                        but you know but no one's working
                                         
                                        I have to cut this short every door
                                         
    
                                        in my house after the windstorm it's opening
                                         
                                        and none of them more like all of them
                                         
                                        I got to call a locksmith in tomorrow because they're all like
                                         
                                        fucking coming up so I just have to shut these doors
                                         
                                        because now leaves are blowing in it's going to be a mountain lion
                                         
                                        coming in here telling me about Q&ON
                                         
                                        oh thanks for doing the show I appreciate it no thanks for having me
                                         
                                        I'll do it again. Thank you, buddy.
                                         
    
                                        That was Tim Dillon.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so I guess we'll wrap it up.
                                         
                                        We're close to a full pod here.
                                         
                                        I was, you know, good to they cut me off in the middle of my waxing philosophical about the war with China.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, it might happen.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to go fight.
                                         
                                        I mean, maybe I'll sit in like a, you know, predator drone thing and I'll just, you know, hit targets with a joystick.
                                         
                                        What do I know?
                                         
    
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