Kump - 6 - Please Don't Steal My Garbage, Cincinnati Benjamin

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Ray discusses his recent struggles with food poisoning, a disgruntled fan making strange threats, the chaos in Virginia, and more.

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The conjuring Last Rites, only in theater, September 5th, where it are. Hello, thank you for tuning in the Kump. It's a delayed episode, of course. It was sick on the journal week. I had eaten a giant, I think it was the giant. gyro. I had a gyro for a street vendor. It did not sit well, and I just thought it was

a adjutant at first, and then it turned into, I guess, what do you call that, food poisoning or stomach virus? You never know. You always assume it's the thing you ate, but it could also be a stomach virus that you get. So you don't want to blame the gyro guy. That being said, just not the most enthusiastic gyro, man. It's not about, you know, like he seems like a clean guy. Like, he seems like he washes his hands. Although I don't know. where you wash your hands in the cart but I guess they have a thing but uh he just seems kind of bored and tired and uh you know I can't go up to him be like hey like did anyone else start you know get a little like shit the turn a little week what you call it when you

almost shit your pants and then the water starts rushing I can't tell him about that and be like hey like that gyro taste is fine but you know anyone else complain that their asshole was puckering and then they got sick um I guess it could was he going to do report me to uh some kind of the police I mean I guess I mean he's got he's probably

I should be more sympathetic anyway because I've got my own harassment situation going I'm not the kind of guy who complains about this but I think it's fine

but the Cincinnati Benjamin character if you follow my Instagram we probably I've seen some of the things he's tweeted at me it's all in fun I thought it was

you know the first thing it was a few months ago and he said something the effect of like hey like you have a big fan and he wanted to know if, like, I photographed his mother in the morgue when she died a few years ago. Well, if the guy is from Cincinnati, I don't know why he, does he know how these things work? Does not one work for the country?

But, yeah, I just ignored that. I mean, a screenshot. And I guess he sees that. So maybe that maybe this is part of why he's gotten more escalating because, you know, I guess I should have responded and be like, hey, you know, no, I probably didn't photograph your dead mother. what was her name you realize how many fucking people I photographed in the morgue over the years just thousands of old people

and younger people just heart shit liver shit drunk shit some gang hits by a training you got put them back together fat people skinny people I mean it's just like

it's a litany I could never remember it all there's ones to stand out particularly grotesque ones you know things that smelled particularly bad you know cancerous uteruses that's one of the worst things is cancer's uterus with the tumor had those hair it wasn't the thing i had the hair and the teeth in it like you you hear about

like a sometimes you hear about tumors that have like an entire person's like what would have been your brother your twin brother but kind of just like became a tumor inside you that that wasn't it was just hair and pus and it smelled terrible um so anyway so you know and then i guess a month ago when the podcast started he sent me some chiding email about not being on iTunes yet you know it's fine I mean everyone people bust balls and this fucking shit it's fine and then uh the other day a screen kept another one where he was uh just give me shit because the podcast was late so yeah I appreciate you guys uh being patient and I'm sorry it wasn't there at time that's all fucking fine and the thing is today he sends me one and he deletes it right away I I went and saw it

and I went to screen grab it but then like it backed that the thing of the same phone it's like you have to hit those two of the home button and like the side button the same time and that's the screen capture but my like my case is all fucking fucked up so like sometimes you go to do it and like the button doesn't grab just go back to the home screen so i lost it and by time i gone back he'd already delete it so he must have known it was weird but at some of the effect that he wanted to come to my like come to my house and look through my garbage and steal my tax return which is like if he hadn't deleted it it wouldn't even be that disturbing but uh I don't know like

go through my garbage if you want like what do you think I'm throwing out my tax returns like the levels of complexity of weirdness this guy that's kind of what like this guy's not all right he's not there

I mean I'm still not that afraid I mean there's people who should be afraid when you're a small woman on social media and like guys are threatening to rape you and shit like all that shit I feel for that like you know don't go threatening people online

don't go doing that especially women it's just be a person but I've always been like if someone's gonna send me a death threat it's like ah you know it's these people do this online I'm like you can't but it's if there was a death rate it'd be more comfortable but it's like I'm gonna steal your tax return from your garbage

I I mean I don't know if it's just because like you know to Cincinnati Benjamin if you're out there uh yeah I don't even know I really don't know who you are so I have nothing against you if it's gonna screencapped your things I thought you'd like that you know please don't go through my garbage please not because it would just be weird for my landlord

because he probably you know the guy would see him and he'd be like what you do and like oh come you say something like that and they would just look weird I don't need some fucking guy making a situation in my place I've rent an apartment I mean this guy I give a lot of my personal self as you people I trust you with it

but you know Cincinnati Benjamin let's call a truce We don't need to Just don't go to my garbage Anyway Let's move on Last week we talked about I launched my new

Series of merchandise I'm a wine princess Merchandise Azerbaijan was not done I'm remembering that now I did not do any Azerbaijan merchandise Which was my other catchphrase

But really I mean Most of my eggs were in the I'm a wine princess bitch basket it i thought that was a you know not just a podcast merch thing but you were ubiquitously uh

marketable product line I mean honestly I mean I know it's it's of course it's ironic and catchy we don't know that but you don't think that like that could like sell in Long Island malls

of course it could I'm an idiot like this is not just I know it's silly and it's weird and it's not what you would think of as my brand but like that could be a thing that like you know becomes bigger than the podcast and therefore gets people to know what the podcast is and

you know telling their neighbors and their mailman like hey check out this cum guy he's got these great fucking t-shirts about wine and being a bitch and you know you're spraying around and uh today i have sold none none of you have bought this people have expressed the fact they wanted to uh get these mugs get these shirts they're on the the store the store's the link in my social media accounts no one bought them if anyone did buy them please contact me let me know because the storefront's showing me no sales

which I get I mean look I gotta go back to the drawing board I'm not blaming you guys but this was a misread I really thought I could have had an army of weird fat kids just wearing I'm a wine princess bitch t-shirts it would have been like the new amicoder

or not amicoder what's these fucking memes I'm not a meme guy I'm not one of these I could have been. I'm in that age. Someone made a point about the age bracket I'm in, like, born in the early 80s, where it's like, you're old enough to, like,

have seen the kind of computer internet revolution to happen, but like young enough, young enough to see it happen, but old enough to, like, remember things that were before it. And, but I know plenty of people my age

who jump heads first into the memes and the meme culture and these acronyms that people throw around and his influencer shit. And I just, I feel like I'm, I'm being a Luddite

and in the fact I'm standing kind of on the cliff looking down why are we giving ourselves up to this? Why am I the FOMO shit

and these fucking people who like complain about the people complain about fuck Jerry just stuff I can't even relate to anyone who would follow this

like I've said before any other podcast is like I don't need porn from Instagram it's not even good porn these women are like gay and sexy

whatever I watched that Hulu Fire documentary I mean, I was just happy that everyone got fucked over. I mean, everyone got fucking over. I didn't give a shit. Who gives a fuck? I mean, the investors got fucked over.

Well, you should have done more due diligence. I mean, if you're not familiar, the fire doc is this fucking, the fire festival was this festival that I guess the, all of these, like, social media influencers got, like, probably tricked into. I think the fuck Jerry guys, like, went head first into it. And, uh, some of the other ones might have got more, like, you know, duped into, like, being a part of it. And it was just a, it kind of a couple years ago, it was like a luxurious, like, new Coachella or whatever. And, like, you know, these rich kids showed up at the island and they had no food and, like, it was FEMA tents. And, like, there was, like, a monsoon weather. And, like, everyone was happy about it.

And, uh, why wouldn't you be? People are going to be happy when rich people get fucked over. Like, they're acting, like, in the dark, like, they're not too harsh on that. But they're kind of like, oh, well, it's not just rich. It is just rich kid. If you're not a rich kid and you're doing that, it's even crazier. Look, if you have the disposable income up the ass And you spend 10 grand to go with some fucking island

Because you think you're gonna fucking fuck some model I don't understand If you have 10 grand to spend Stay in New York You can get a girl that hot to fuck you Just like this pro that's a lot of money for a prostitute You could do that That's not like a fucking

You know what's wrong with you We're gonna go some fucking islands Because there's some influencer girl Who like you know Pretends to be drinking you know All the time but she's really... I mean, look, these women have these asses

they're sculpted and the zero body fat. What, you think they're clubbing every night? No, they're fucking working out all the time and being disciplined. They're making money. And I'm sure they have their, you know, they're off days where they have a fucking drinker. But I doubt they're getting trashed all the time

and then sculpting their assholes. You know, I don't know what kind of asshole exercises they do, but they seem very thorough. They seem to, you know, have assholes that you didn't even see ever 30 years ago. they're paving the asshole landscape and so just you go get a hooker like a high clagely

Elliot Spitzer type hooker and like give her five drink give her 10 grand whatever 10 grand will get you a fucking really expensive hooker that's like that's not some shitty you know lazy whatever you mean I don't know where you go anymore they should a lot of those sites down I think

but uh I don't like I don't understand what you thought you thought you're going to hang out with like you know Kendall Jenner Or fuck Jerry Why would you want to I don't even want me people Who I respect

Who are famous You know I thought I saw Ozzy Oswald one the other day at work And I fucking do like Half a double take It's just like Reflexively And people told me it was

And people told me he's in the hospital I'm pretty sure I saw him though But whatever He seems to like When I almost did a double take He seems to be like Yeah I don't want to talk to anyway

Fuck off But he didn't want, like, oh, you recognize me. But I didn't even give him the credit. And, like, you know, I like the guy. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of Sabbath. But, you know, but, like, I'm going to fucking talk to some idiot who fucking posts. I mean, do they steal from comics? I mean, that's the least problematic thing he's doing.

I know I shouldn't be saying that. Yeah, he's stealing content. It's more about the fact that content has become this disposable fucking stream of consciousness. And the fact that you even acknowledge these people exist. it's the same way like don't ever say fake news don't ever use these terms like they're talking about fomo the fear of missing out like don't allow these things to become like why are you allowing people to make up ideas for you and then you accept it and go this is the thing i believe now like no this is just be a cramudgeon be a dick don't accept

like you don't have to accept that you know this this fucking yeah Kendall Jen has a hundred million followers i think it was said we're close to it so She's got to influence with a Kylie Jenner. I don't even know. Who gives a shit? I think it's Kendall. They're all like, you know, Armenian, right? I don't know that matters, but they're probably the most successful Armenians that are heard of.

Good for them. But, you know, like, I'm not going to stop them from influencing people. They're going to have an impact, but, like, just don't be a part of it. This is not something that, like, you don't like advertising. Don't look at advertising. As simple as that. I mean, it doesn't solve the larger picture, but nothing does. I mean, you can, you want to go preach to people about, I mean, I guess it's what I'm doing,

is preaching people about influencers, but it's like, I mean, who are these guys, Aaron Paul? I remember there was something in the old podcast where I was supposed to join some Fuck Force 10 or something like that, whether they were called, you know, I don't know who these people are. They're fucking psychopaths. There's a lot of great guys on YouTube. This guy, Lindy Beach, for instance, I watch his stuff sometimes. He just talks about medieval armor and whether, like, like, swords are better than shields. Apparently, I'm not swords.

Spears are better than swords, and they were apparently. Like, things like, it's interesting shit out there. There's guys who do, like, just really weird minutia about, you know, like, little pockets of history. And you're going to, like, what, look, listen to fucking Aaron Brown and talk about, like, pissing on some Japanese corpse. Like, just, it's your fault. You allow it to exist. You can just unclick it. So, you know.

Please, uh, use, uh, use, my vodka. I've got a new vodka coming out as my point. It's called chunk vodka. It's a vodka that I'm trying to connect with my brand. I'm kidding. No, but like I do have to do so. I think it's going to do a Patreon as far as like the commercial aspect. I would like to do some kind of branding, co-opting thing to fund this. I'm trying to create a, you know, a next, what you call it a late stage capitalist financing of this podcast you know what i mean i don't want this to be i want i want the financing to be uh the installation art of you know this is the warhol like this is uh that that's going to be the gimmick you know it's just going to we're

people going to like oh look at this pot these me on like news 12 long island or or like fucking you know with some stupid local fox news affiliate they're going to do some story about me look at this guy financed his podcast with um i don't I don't know, recyclable plants, or, like, by making candles, or, like, we're going to, like, maybe I'll be the first green podcast. Like, these are ideas, uh, they're bullshit ideas, but I, I feel like I'm onto something, and you guys are, and you guys are part of it now. You're, you're, you're, like, in a year, we're going to look back and go, oh, this is all, like, the pre, like, uh, this, these are the episodes before he figured out how to, like, you know, literally use cow shit, like, you know, to create wind turbines that, like, make the podcast. podcast, I don't know. See, I'm not, anyone who has, like, a science background and knows anything about green

technology that we can possibly do with the podcast, let me know. But for now, it's going to do a Patreon, I think. So the link will be in my Instagram and Twitter feed. You can see it. It'll probably just be, like, Kump, I'll set one up. And you get done it. Eventually we'll do tier systems, I guess. I'll be able to do, like, a second episode, or I am kind of looking into doing some video

stuff too. Whatever. We'll figure it out. If you want to support the show, that'd be appreciated. If not, I'm not going to shake you down to now. We're still figuring things out. So I'm not like, you know, this is what it is. It's been a, a lot of race stuff this week has happened. Like, like, I mean, first of the Virginia thing is just out of control. It's been going on for about a week now. If you haven't heard about it, I don't know where the hell you've been. The fucking governor of Virginia It came out, this yearbook picture came out of his yearbook page from medical school,

which I didn't even know medical schools had yearbooks. It's like when you're, I was pictured in medical school. By the time you got there, you're working your ass off. I didn't think you even talk to the other doctors. I guess that's not realistic. I have very, just a view of the world that includes having no friends. But I just, it seemed weird that you wouldn't be past the whole yearbook thing. And the yearbooks are weird.

Like these weird yearbooks that obviously I get, it turns out you get half a page And you basically give the yearbook guide The guy running the yearbook like the photos you want to use And You do it, I guess like a little loose leaf paper Like you know, lay out Like yeah put this picture here

Put that picture there And this guy's pick He had it on his fucking yearbook He's got him building a Mustang or some shit And then he's got some other picture of him Just you know being Looking like a semi-rich or you know A privileged kid

And it maybe was maybe one wasn't I'm he looked like a douche um and a couple other things maybe and then like a picture of I guess what what looks like a Halloween party you would hope you would fucking hope a Halloween party uh with a guy wearing minstrel blackface uh like a hobo minstrel blackface costume and uh a clan costume um prominently featured like just four or five pictures and this is one of them um it's not like some tiny

little thing it doesn't matter but i'm just saying this is not even and immediately he comes out and apologizes for it for wearing the costume whatever it seems he's going to resign then he comes out almost immediately maybe the next morning or that wasn't me uh in the picture um i actually was thinking about another time when i was uh wearing uh some black uh face to uh book myself like Michael Jackson to win some dance contest But that picture in the yearbook wasn't me I don't know who it is First of all

What you're in med school And you're doing a dance Is this fucking happy days What dance contest Is it some fucking sock hop thing Where you dress like Michael Jackson You can't sit down Or else you lose the bar

Why is no one addressing that? Why is no one talking about Why this fucking scumbag Is in a dance contest to be med school takes a lot of time like you you have to respect doctors at a certain extent there might be bad doctors out there but like they go to four

years of fucking college regular undergrad and they go four years of med school all the while they're finding they're interning or maybe they aren't but then they go to the fucking four years of residency and attending it's all it's a decade more than a decade of school

and I'm not saying you can't have fun but I'd like to know what the percentage is of doctors in med school who have made the time to wear blackface to go to danceoffs to fucking to do some moonwalk uh for charity or what was he i'm not even giving the credit there was for charity what is this goon doing that's never been addressed um and like a sidebar here's the thing because this is also going to come up in a couple excuse me other times in this uh discussion um look blackface is one of the most viscerally horrific am i exaggerating like

really it's not just oh we know it's wrong when you look at what blackface is when you learn what it is and you watch it and you look at it um and you realize what they're doing the the complete the way the dehumanizing uh effort on it it's not it's not even just the effect I mean, it is a grotesque characterization of a race, and it's the inclination also. When you look at it, you realize that the purpose of this is to, like, create a sense of lower castness of, of, like, subhumanness to a race, to a people, to propagandize people towards it. I mean, you can't, there's no argument to be made that this was some organic comedic. I don't even know if people do do that, but, like, I'm sure there's some southern idiots who might argue, well, this is a tradition. It just, it was a comedy thing, and a bit worked.

I don't know. It seems pretty clear, undeniable, that it's a, it was a force of propaganda, and to kind of, like, almost encourage the youth, the young people, and just the consuming class of people in the South. I guess North also, you know, just to create a sense of, like, of subhumanness, of subcharacterness, of like, and, you know, there's something just, especially, like, if you had done this to people and not had slavery, you know, it would still be like, oh, it's disgusting in why you're doing this. but like realizing if these people like this is being done in a time where people are like you know being like owned and then work to death I get

I think it's still like it happened during slavery even if it didn't but I'm saying like even if it started during restoration like I'm not sure exactly when Blackface started I think it started during slavery but even if it started afterwards like at a time when people are being subjugated when you're being

not allowed to really on property and not allowed to really vote when it's a law when forces are doing everything is possible to like keep these people from uh being you know full assistance even after you know constitutional amendments are done and then to have this like on top of it it's it's it goes hand in hand so it's gross now there's the other thing there's a thing that like you know people i don't look and when if you do it is michael jackson if your purpose is to go i'm going to do michael jackson and i'm going to

fucking like, you know, just, just to look like Michael Jackson. I'm not, I didn't know about the blackface thing, but you're saying I was aware of the history. That's what you're claiming. In some cases, look, I'm, it's still wrong. It still should not be allowed, of course.

I mean, what's her name? Megan, uh, from Fox News and making whatever, you know, the, Megan Kelly. She got, she got fired from, you know, the today show because she basically said, I don't understand why this is a problem. You know, they just want look like the people they like, you know,

when they dress them like a black person for Halloween. I mean, to say you don't know why it's a problem. You can argue, perhaps, that in some cases, maybe this guy didn't have racist intent. Yeah, because I think if you didn't know about blackface, like, it's possible that, you know, you would do this. You probably knew it wasn't something you were supposed to do. Maybe like, hey, well, it's just kind of bad taste,

but I'll be the edgy guy. It's possible that those situations occur. I think most of the time when you see, seen them come up in the news when those guys would claim that it's these weird douchey frack guys it's kind of it's usually these douchey fucking or these like you know sorority things and these it screams of his entitlement and just like we know we're doing something bad and fuck you we don't care kind of vibe so you i call bullshit a lot of it but it's possible you know my point is with the governor saying this is it possible that that jackson thing wasn't

intentionally racist. Yeah, I guess, but like, I don't understand why they even matter. You have, even if it's not you, you have a picture of a guy in a clan outfit and also, not just not a guy in a Michael Jackson outfit, but obviously a stereotypical minstrel blackface on your medical school yearbook page. Who can't, like, you have volunteered as Michael Jackson's story. Why is this here? Like, were you dressing up in blackface so often? that you just when you saw that picture you went oh this is me and you gave it to the guy i put in your book oh this is uh and you realized later oh i'm so that was uh that was just bob and timmy uh my best friends uh i wasn't able to go to that party because uh i was busy

you know fundraising some you know anti-abortion fucking rally to hurt women or whatever he was doing um i don't i guess he's a democrat i mean boy is it doesn't matter like you know And look, if you had, I mean, I think he made some kind of claim. Because, look, it's been a week now. People are calling him for to resign. He's not doing it. The idea, I mean, he's come out in the paper. You just have some article in the times.

And he's basically saying, I'm going to, I've always new programs for black people. We're going to make the best of it. These programs aren't you? Like, oh, we're going to fix Medicaid and this and that. I mean, if it even gets done, it's kind of like, I guess it's good. But here's the thing. It's like, should something you do 30 years ago have an effect on whether you stay in the office, should, like, should people, like, you know, I mean, of course, people can vote you out next time, but, like, should people, like, be able to effectively, um, just kind of call for your resignation and kind of real, I'm not saying he's being railroad, but quote, quote, railroad, I mean, here's a deal. Like, he hasn't even really conveyed. He said, like, oh, I think he made some point. Like, I wasn't really aware of how bad. bad it was if that was the case though if you were a guy who fucking they didn't know what blackface was

and then you know you when you were as michael jackson thing and then you fucking later on you found out you you found out what blackface was and then you were confronted about it you know look this is a time like you you you have an answer you'd be like all right look this looks bad i understand i didn't know what it was and and then you tell the story how you found because i didn't look when i was in high school i didn't know what it was I don't think in college. I really knew what it was. They didn't really seem to teach you that well. I figured other people, too. They really didn't, if they covered it, they didn't really show it.

Maybe you saw one picture. It didn't really get the vibe across. I don't remember. I was saying, but, you know, I think it's possible you didn't learn it. But you'd remember, and you'd have this sense of like, oh, my God, how did I do that? Not like, it was fun. I was moonwalking. I guess it was offensive back in it. I mean This guy It's just not plausible I mean

They're also like They're bringing up stuff That's in the year But other offensive stuff Which I think is kind of like This guy wearing a sombrero In one of the pictures Which is like

Yeah I guess that's cultural appropriation I mean A can we not Stop Can we stop pretending That's not different Than Blackface Like black face

Like black face is incredibly I mean yeah I mean you can argue Like the portrayal Of Mexican Americans Or Mexicans Well, like, you know, in our culture is stereotypical and hurtful, but, like, not to the extent that, like, you know, we weren't enslaving them. It wasn't, like, creating a sub-human race.

Yeah, now we're putting, Trump's putting people in cages, so it seems like, you know, perceptions could be, but, you know, it's just, it's different. Also, like, you know, the guy's wearing a sombrero. He's not fucking, it is a difference. Come on. But, like, oh, you know, but I'll give you that one. Like, almost like, all right, it'll get it's offensive, sure. but it is a picture of a guy going like he's wearing a who has a mug and says a bit of a teacher at the school like uh we can't there's many slogans on the mug we can't be fired uh slaves have to be sold which is like i guess in poor taste right it's important you know because slavery

in america but like it's obviously a work like a juicy workplace like dilbert kind of vibe to the mug i don't think it's and look when you put when you take into account the rest of the stuff is going on the state maybe it was you know a call back to slavery and I just that's a thing you know you want to believe that like you know most things aren't racially motivated that racism is not as bad as it used to be

this week it's it's pushing those limits of like thinking that I mean because immediately there's a black basically on top of all this because it's just the first guy the black lieutenant governor I mean he was just a lieutenant governor happened to be black and he like well this guy will probably take over

and then he gets a sexual not harassment, I think it was more like an assault allegation that comes out against him that he forced oral sexist woman a few years ago and then there was this clamor about the Democrats weren't kind of, they're going to stand behind him or not necessarily call for his resignation which seems, you know, the whole Kavanaugh thing is like, you know, it's kind of like

you should be consistent on this stuff. I mean, I don't think anyone, that no one was saying, you know, we shouldn't believe these women. It's a weird line we've crossed, we come to now. where people are like never they'll never say now if they're smart they'll never say not to believe the woman

you have to respect women and when they when they come forward very brave we respect them and hear them just not this one it's like it's kind of

if I get look there will be occasions when things you know and there's also a history of you know less like kids ourselves there is a history

of black men being accused of white women and lynching's ensuing um so no it's a kind of there's a complication there and you shouldn't have to just, you know, and accept it, you know, like, but that being said, like, it is a fuzzy ground people are in now. But he subsequently had the second one coming, so I think he's probably going to resign.

So you have the governor, the lieutenant governor, the attorney general, who's also a Democrat, comes out, seems to be apropos of nothing, and volunteers that he wore blackface. to impersonate some rapper in 1980. I think Curtis Lowe or whatever is the name of it. First of all, 1980, like, how in tune you people are all like waving Confederate flags and doing blackface and you're into rap in 1980? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I was kind of cutting edge for being into hip-hop. You know, I mean, I didn't even get into hip-hop until, like, you know, Kanye West, I think. So, I mean, I guess there's benefits or, you know, credit where credit.

do but uh you know he seems be much more apologetic about it and he's uh seems like a nicer guy but why did he volunteer you in for like what I mean of course truth yeah be truthful sure but like no one was asking you and like it was kind of odd like did he did someone know

that you know and he knew they knew and he's going to like beat him to the punch I mean Lucy had the best take on it was like was this his like I am Spartacus moment where he was going to like try to save the governor by like he's like and like who among us if not was not worn blackface and like everyone's like yeah most of us haven't done it

which I thought was very funny but yeah it's inexplicable I mean it would seem like this is the this would be like you know some kind of concerted effort by Republicans I would assume so I mean the cool

I mean I don't know if they could have planned for the fucking the lunacy of the third guy but I mean all this shit coming out at once it doesn't mean it's wrong this thing like you know in this day and age when you have if you have shit on someone legitimate shit you're going to drop it when the time when you you know uh it's going to stick um so you know the fact that it's coming out at the same time and that someone's going to benefit

because now the next guy in line the secretary of state i believe is a republican so i don't know if it gets to him i think the governor seems to be staying put um but like if it was some kind of plan by them it seems like a lot to just get the governorship of virginia um but yeah but you i think you should like you know when these things kind of all pop up once question if it's connected and it wouldn't like you know in this case i feel like it wouldn't matter like it still seems all you know you can kind of question the veracity of stuff but it all seems to be true like the fact that someone's benefiting doesn't really uh change the fact that this is kind of unacceptable but um just bizarre set circumstances

uh top of that this week Gucci got some flack. This is all connected. Gucci got the flack for releasing a, I think it's like a Baclavot. Think of it as like a ski mask, but like the ski, the top of the ski mask can come off.

It's a two-piece ski mask. And the bottom piece is basically a black, half, a bottom half of a ski mask with big red lips. I mean, it's obviously a black face reference. And I just, I grew up on Long Island And you think

Like it was a pretty racist place And it is I mean objectively But I you know I grew up in a weird block We're like We had black family in a block We had like

I was you know A Filipino family on one side And Ecuador and the other I mean it wasn't I mean I was a lot of black kids in my class I didn't grow up surrounded by Racist

Well it was surrounded by But I didn't see it Um I think it was a you know Utopia but you know um but as you get older you know these people start coming out of the word work and people start adopting you know and then even that but some of it's more like a lot guys who you know happen to deal with certain pockets of people um these guys are shitheads

and like you know it's you know it's your words around it's terrible but it's also not like they're not talking about race science either it's like it this is this stuff um But I'm saying, like, just this week, you're seeing how, like, the idea this would be out there for public consumption with, like, the upper class, I don't know who buys Gucci. Is Gucci, like, elite stuff, or is it for, like, you know, I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty expensive. I mean, I think there's like $800, I think, for this fucking scheme out. So it wasn't cheap. I just don't know anymore. It would seem like, you know, people keep saying, oh, in the time, it wasn't offensive, this blackface shit.

Maybe it wasn't, I think blackface wasn't, even the blackface wasn't offensive. The fucking clan outfit was plenty offensive. But, I mean, I'm pretty sure it always was offensive. It's always, and, but at the very least, I mean, 10 years ago, 15 years? I mean, we've been dealing with this, I think since the 90s at least, when, like, people say PC culture or whatever. I mean, this has never been cool. Like, it's not, I don't know at what point it would be cool to have a blackface ski mask. and like it's not even like it's some fucking

schlucky company or some fucking because that does matter like the fact that it's being sold to privilege like some of the most privileged people or you know I guess people who don't can't afford

really afford stuff by Gucci also that's not really is that true strivers I mean you might buy sneakers that are too expensive but I don't be able to buy an $800 ski masks that seems like a lot it really seems like more just like rich girls

I mean I think it's a woman's thing anyway but like a rich woman's who is doing is this code I'm really at a loss here I'm a loss for what like is this something you wear so you can kind of like you know you see each other on fifth avenue and you annihilate each other go yeah yeah we're on the same page pro blackfit like what what are you championing in here is it I mean maybe is

are people that oblivious I don't know it's just that's a scary thing because the governor was like is it possibly didn't know when he was at 22 in my opinion yeah it's possibly didn't know it's definitely possibly didn't know much about it to be the governor now of virginia and not know about it and not to immediately be like oh of course this is like you know a problem that's the problem because it's not it's not that like oh i think he's absolutely a racist i don't know what he is it seems it definitely seems weird i mean the fact that you put in a clan guy and a blackface guy your yearbook i don't know what i mean if it's not racist i don't know what it is but whatever i mean

like a yeah i mean i would assume you're at least partly a racist probably a full-on racist but does it like does it permeate your decisions i don't know it just if you if you if you can't if you feel safe doing that that's the problem it's like why do you feel safe doing that do you feel like racism is just a joke and doesn't have to address like are you like you can argue a lot of stuff about like sensitivity you should have to be people are too sensitive and sure sometimes people can be too sensitive

people um there are instances of people like go out of their way to be victims um even if they even if they have a legitimate beef like they're kind of like going out of the way to like to find that angle that happens but like this is not one of those cases in my opinion this is a case of like what's this guy all about he hasn't addressed it the fact that he's kind of hold up in the governor's mansion

and not even like really you say I'm not like I'm not going to leave and not making something it's going to be better for black people we're going to make some stuff for black people will happen but like not really it's like there's ways to express that like you know

you've changed your perspective and he hasn't done that to my knowledge so it's weird then you have fucking Liam Neeson and this is just batch shit crazy and kind of evil uh sounding not you know i'm in his evil tone to it this fucking guy comes out and he's promoting his new movie i don't know what the movie's called good because i don't want to promote it anyway um not because of him it's just

what i promoting all the people's shit am i promoting that's part of this because that's gonna be a part of this so he comes out he's a movie's about revenge because of course it is because everything since taken has been about revenge but whatever So he's talking about how revenge is futile. I guess that's maybe one of the themes in the movie, which is like, you know, very original. Revenge is futile. Okay.

I haven't seen that before, but okay. But he starts talking about this time when he was like, I think 30 or 40 years ago, I believe he said, like when he can't come back to Belfast from America, I assume, and one of his family members told him that he was raped. Oh, she was raped. By according to her or him, a black person, black guy, raped her

and so he loses his mind apparently and he says for a week he went around with the, I forget the word he used, but basically he's still kind of a bat or club going around the different pubs looking for any I think he called him quote black bastard looking for any black bastards

random to be clear looking for random black people to kill according to him which is look and after a week I guess he realized that that was wrong which is good you to realize that that's wrong and uh yeah he's admitting this now like there's a lot of layers to it of course the fact that you're admitting that he did that you felt this way i mean there's i don't know if commend this the right word but you give him

acknowledgement of yeah like this was you'd have to bring this up and uh you're trying to shed some light i'm not sure exactly what point he's trying to make but you're trying to shed some light on how um this because he i think he said something the effect of like I had this primal rage, and I didn't never have before, and it's scary how quickly I had this rage. Which is, like, sure, there is, I mean, look, there's a thing in people of, uh, there's a reason we have, like, you know, crimes of passion and, like, you know, temporary insanity, like, you know, if you, something happens to you and then you go into a flight of rage, you get, you get leeway from the courts, you know, there's a reason that happens. I mean, it's a legitimate thing, and it's scary how people can kind of, uh, be triggered. it does seem though you're not admitting that you felt rage

you're admitting that you went out and tried to kill people and then you couldn't find any black people so you couldn't and then it really sounds like you just calm down after a week you act like oh I learned after a week did you or did you just calm down because you always

that's what happens you calm down after things happen you know and it's not to condemn the guy it's just there's a tone deafness and how you're bringing it up I think that's the problem and people are being a little Terry Cruz came out and basically said something

to the effect of like he thought that he's related to this case but Terry Cruz tweeted that like you know everyone's like piling on this guy he's trying to admit something that happened

and adds the conversation and people went after Terry Cruz and it went bass to him look the piling on is a little is excessive that's the problem

that's fucking Twitter shit everyone wants to be the edgy fucking you don't get their sniping in and get their fucking, you know, their little fucking commentary in

on every fucking thing that happens and it's like you're adding nothing and you're adding nothing, you're not really adding any perspective.

Um, it's just like canceled this, that canceled. Like, this whole fucking need, I'm not saying they're wrong in like, in the way they feel,

but it's just like the, there is a level of like amplification of just no one needs the chorus of it. I mean, do we I'm not trying to silence people either I'm really I'm really dwelling on this

do we do use does the echo chamber serve some purpose where do you draw the line where would you just say like you want some outrage you if something's outrageous happens you want people to be outraged that's part of the problem with

you know this country's not enough things get the outrage to deserve but the guy You know, he is trying to do something. The problem is he's like, oh, it's not racist. Well, no, it's clearly racist. Well, people go, oh, well, because people on the other side go, oh, well, no, it wasn't being racist. The person who he was told attacked, raped his family member was black.

Like, sure, that's what he was told, supposedly. But, you know, can we not pretend that there isn't a tremendous amount of history of, like, like, like I said before, black men being accused by white women, falsely. A lot of false cases where they were caught together in consensual relationships or just, you know, for a number of reasons because, you know, black men had no standing in society to, like, defend themselves

and they were basically lynchmobs would go out and strike up a black guy and not always even the guy who supposedly did it. So, like, this is a huge part of his reason race riots that have occurred because of these exact kind of events. So sit there and go, well, this wasn't racist. It's like, well,

I mean, now you're just kind of bringing this up and go, well, this isn't racist. And then black people are going like, well, you know, that's the insult, the biggest insult. Not also like you try to kill a black person. But I mean, that, you know, to bring this up and you can't at least, you can't admit, you can admit that you try to kill someone, but you can't admit you were racist. Because, I mean, look, that, that's fine. Admit that, like, I was being racist. And I think, you know, look, the way when you really listen to, like, you know, black, intellectuals and stuff

race people who study this stuff is like the whole system's racist it wouldn't be wrong for you to be racist like you know in moments like it wouldn't be wrong it wouldn't be out of line to think that at some point maybe you were you know succumb to this but to sit there and go no I went out for a week with a weapon and tried to find a black guy to kill

a random black guy and you go but that wasn't racist it's that's ballsy that's a ballsy move One second. Yeah, the other, I don't hear this get brought up that much, but also, like, this would, this would have more weight if you, you were bringing it up to promote a movie, which just seems crass to me. Like, the idea, like, oh, this is a serious thing that needs to be addressed. Oh, by the way, go see my revenge film. Like, fuck, it's, it's just, nothing's done sincerely.

Nothing's done. I mean, and there's a venue out there for this shit to be done sincerely. I think he meant it, but he's also out of touch. He's not out of touch, dude. It's racist. I mean, people get caught up on the whole, like, is it intentionally racist or not? Like, there is, I see why. I mean, because someone wants to think that's not no one.

Obviously, it's not no one, but a lot of people don't want to think that they're doing stuff that is racist. But there's stuff like, you know, yes, the fact that you went out there and, like, yeah, that was a racist thing to do and just acknowledge it. knowledge up what it was and i guess you could argue that like people are afraid of being called a racist because you know their careers get ruined and whatever but it's like i don't know i mean like are we really going to pretend like i mean the governor the governor is still the governor of virginia uh Mel Gibson still out there um you know i think if you really think about it in much the same way people talk about women like oh these guys careers are getting ruined and a lot of cases they weren't i mean louis

back um yeah harvey's indicted and you know whatever a lot of these guys have you know careers weren't ruined um and the same way like people who have racist stuff happen to them i mean like or you know had racist incidents yeah they weren't we're acting like all your careers ruined what about the people who's like never had careers because of racism were kept down whose opportunities were slashed because, you know, redlining and fucking, you know,

and just complete bias and, you know, a shitty school. I mean, all the things of race, like, it's almost, it's very indulgent to kind of go, well,

people are afraid their career's going to be real. Well, then don't, you know, be racist. I mean, I'm going to tell you. I mean, because it should,

there should be repercussions. I mean, you could argue that the, uh, social, media mob, what everyone would call it, might be another most effective, but, you know, it's also, before

that, who was getting anything done? No one. So, I don't know. It's a tough week. It's a weird week. I don't know if it was the funniest week, but you know, I don't know where this country stands with all this stuff.

You know, there's just some legit shit out there. I mean, I think we're all, we'd all do well, especially in just Black History, Mother, then you should go read some, I should always do it, but I mean, you know, take the opportunity to read, I'm reading a book on Reconstruction right now, because that's the real is, it's a period of my, of history that I don't, I have kind of a blind spot on, didn't really, you know, I think we're all kind of assume we know what happened and slavery and, you know, civil rights are all, everything in between, and like, you know, the more than you find out, over the years, you know, as you're finding other things out, you find out little carnal and stuff, you go, oh, wow, I have huge, like, gaps of knowledge about this shit. So, you know, we all pretend like, oh, we all know slavery, I get it, I get it. Do you? I mean, like, you know, you might know the broad strokes, but how, you know,

I'm always learning new stuff about, you know, the history of, like, you know, racial identity and America and Europe and all sorts of shit. I mean, we can all learn more shit. Just learn more shit. And don't do blackface. Don't enter dance contest. That's stupid.

Like, you know, don't fucking have a yearbook. I mean, you book. I had a year, I remember all ends on this. I, when I was in high school, they voted me most unique. I didn't want to. I knew that people were nominated me. I told them not to vote for me, and they did that anyway. And I was pretty pissed about it.

I didn't want to be a part of it. And my friend had given me this karate kid's fucking headband. They made an art class. I was wearing it during the regular group picture for the yearbook, and this fat nun yelled at me, comp, maybe take it off. So, when it came time for my picture, look, I was in high school. I mean, I was trying to just give him a fuck you. So I printed out this picture, it says, I'm, like this piece of paper, says, I'm not unique.

And then, uh, I was holding that for the picture. Also, I wore a headband because it's just like out of spite. I'm going to wear his headband. And, uh, some of you might already be, uh, envision this or in your head already and realizing how it went wrong. Uh, because the girl next to me who's also got voted in. She's like wrong her eyes and that weird. oh hey look at this wacky guy

and like the photographer's too into it like why is this happening and like the picture comes off it looks like I'm just being a sticky fucking prop comic and so the point is you'll learn about execution execution matters

you have to kind of just having the intent doesn't always matter it matters you know how did you pull it off that was douchey even though I had good intentions just like you might have been racist even though you might have had not racial intentions

you end up being racist See, everything comes full circle All right, but yearbooks, get rid of them Stop having them There's just fucking, no one needs your quote What are you gonna quote fucking cold play Fuck yourself Follow me at Instagram

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