Kump - 72 - Kump's Big Idea

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

Ray and Lucie attempt to make new enemies, and new allies, and then Ray unveils his big new idea on how to fix the Police. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Get your "I'm A Wine Princess, Bitch!" T Shirt, available for a limited time! https://bonfire.com/store/kump/

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. A little later in the week. What are you going to do? This is what men and women look like after they've talked for hours. We talk for hours. We do talk for hours. We do talk for hours.

We're a couple, and we engage in the great debates of the world. This is an insane world that we live in. We're intellectuals. Yeah, I mean, of sorts. I mean, in this day and age, I think we can call ourselves intellectuals. Yeah. Maybe not in the 70s or 60s. You know, maybe Gore Vidal would have said, you know, you were just a frustrating pig

if I try to talk to him on DeKavit or some other well-behaved talk show where they just kind of listening to each other. But now I think, yeah, I put myself into the intellectual sphere. I also put you. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, Dick Cavett was a good mediator. Right.

Yeah. And he's also kind of a, I'm trying to do with Dick Cavett impression. Lucy made the point. It was a little bit critical, but I agree that, you know, for someone, it would be good for someone like you to learn impressions. And I think, you know, it's my one big fault besides being a overbearing fat maniac is not be able to do good impressions so i can't do my dick cavit brown i'm dick cavit doesn't mean it doesn't play yeah we were we were we were fantasizing about a show where i somehow played dick cavett and he somehow

played who oh i was going to be gor uh gorvedo you were going to be gorvedo okay yeah i i can't do it i don't want to get into it oh yeah i can do henry kissinger oh yeah why are you asking me about Cambodia what is this what about us what about that's a country There was bombs. I work in the foggy bottom, which is where the State Department works. That's accurate. I have good references, but I'm not good impressions.

So anyway, we have a bunch of stuff to talk about today. You wanted to bring up a bit of news of the comedy world, I guess, you say? Or a great comedian who was pulled down from the heavens down back to Earth with the mortals and now he's, but now he's back. Now he's back. Louis C.K. He's a little more human.

That's good. So Louis C.K., what did he do this time? Was he going after the victims of a hurricane? Why are these people not able to, why don't they wear galoshes? People always say, the women always say when Louis CK gets an interview,

they go, I don't want to hear from Louis CK. Yes, you do. You wouldn't talk about it so much if you don't want to hear from Louis CK. I like that thing. And hear what's hurting him. I got in trouble with that. Park landing. I mean, it was fun. Funny. It was a diffused tension. Now, you know, whatever. I'm saying, like, it's a school. I don't know. Do I make a lot of school shooting jokes? I'm not as good at that. He has these ways of connected, but why he, he, that's not why I got in trouble. No, no, no. He did some stuff.

Look, I mean, look, I've come around to a more conspiratorial view of Louis C.K. You think he's, you think he's eating Rinacombe? I think that, look, he did do something really bad. contributed to a hostile work environment for women. Sure. I think that's objectively true. When my mother, you know, when my mother went to work, she would always come home saying, like, the men they were just fucking bully me. They just bully me.

You know? Was it Louis? It was Louie. She was a teacher, right? Yeah, she was a teacher. This fucking weird, abstract comedian who I've never heard of, fucking, you know, because at that time, he was just doing weird bits. Yeah. And he was just talking about, and he was ranting about

car horns and pulling his dick out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, she was always, she was genuinely traumatized by it. And I got. What were they do to her? Well, they would just belittle her. She was a very intelligent woman and they would belittle her. They would belittle her.

What would they say? Like, hey, toots. Yeah, exactly. It's like, you know, but men of different generations have their ways. They were like, hey, Toots, have you a slob-nobbed? That's a new t-shirt possibly. I mean to interrupt your story. No, no, go ahead.

Go ahead. No, it's just something, I didn't know how to work it in. Because, you know, people say sometimes we're like, you know, men are getting oral. They're getting their knob-slobbed. At least I've heard that. But for women, I want to bring equal opportunity to women so that they can say, hey, you're getting you slob-knocked. And I can get, like, anyone could be, and that someone's eating your pussy. And it's great.

It could be a woman. It could be a non-binary person eating your pussy. Could be a man. Could be not kids, ever. Ever. You can't do it to kids. this is what happens to them i guess the great area if like if a teenage person wants to get you know they're slob now by the but that's not i got why would i comment on that yeah if they're

both 15 i got nothing to do with it yeah exactly i got to do with it anyway but also i just don't want so whatever so that's copyrighted right so what but you do belittler yeah they probably belittler and like and and that's the thing we got we got we got to we got to we got to bridge the gap we got to put some context from history in. Sure. So why is he in the news? But the reason. Oh, sorry.

The reason. No, no, you didn't. You didn't. The reason he got in the news, I think the reason they punished him is because he, he was a mediator and he liked to bridge the gap between people. Okay. Not because he jerked up in front of people?

We've got to be able to separate that people get punished for things they actually do. But people also get punished because, people want them punished. You know? I agree. It's, and it's better than going to jail. It's restorative justice.

It's good. Well, what was restorative justice? Him going on Mark Marin this week? Yeah. That was a restorative justice. You're sentenced to having to sit with Mark Marion for two hours. Yeah.

No, I agree. Look, I mean, the guy did what he did. It wasn't cool, but it wasn't good. Yeah.

I want to say, it wasn't cool, but like lay out. No, I'm not trying to be a valley girl dismissing I don't know what to say I'm just saying

It didn't seem as you know Don't be in people like Oh don't say Don't equivocate Just because you can't say It wasn't as bad as Harvey Weinstein Because you know That's just equivocation

No I think we can acknowledge He wasn't as bad as Harvey Weinstein That seems reasonable Of course he wasn't He made it but he did some shit It wasn't cool And who was like yeah whatever I mean like a fucking

What did you have to fucking You know Sit in a bath of asses forever Yeah right exactly He's fucking back there He's back He's on Merrin and he's fucking smoking cigars with him probably.

Just fucking, I didn't watch the interview. Yeah. Oh, no, I didn't. Was it a good interview? I didn't either. I literally heard, I want to listen to it. I want to listen to it. I've heard like five seconds of it.

And he's like, literally just the five seconds I skipped you, he was like, I was going through a really dark time. He was like, yeah, look, I like the guy. Again, like, I have to be consistent. I don't back up Bill Burr because he's rich. So why should I? But, you know, I'm not going to go too far for Louie. You're like, you don't see something for me. I'm just very, I'm just very opinion, like, I'll defend poor people.

And I'm not against rich people. I'm not like, I'm not one of these leftist crazies who, like, you know, everyone's got more than $10. He needs to get in the guillotine. Right. But I'm just saying, like, you know, but Bill Burr, I brought up when he ever he fucking starts, you know, shooting his mouth off. Like, you, you're so good at talking. You deal with it. Oh, remember when he fucking, the crowd hated him in Philly and he shit all over Philly and everyone liked them?

all right do that again why am i defending you right yeah totally you can cut me in on the fucking on the take here a little bit yeah let me get some action but it's good to see louis uh doing stuff yeah no yeah no it's going on podcast yeah you know it's fucking is that a decline from where he was you know it's hard to say yeah who cares maybe it was maybe he deserved it you know it's like it's you know he'll climb himself back up you think louis he care put me in a movie about him and Mark Maron? Oh, sure. Just making fun of school shooters.

What, jerk off? I don't care. Big week. It's been a while now, it feels like, but the Derek Chauvin verdict came in, and very appropriately, I think he was found, I don't even say, I think, yeah, very appropriately, he was found guilty.

I mean, you know, the video and the evidence, like the guy, you know, You agree? Oh, yeah. Of course he's guilty. Of course. I mean, look, it's just, this is like a, seems like a no-brainer. But then, yeah, there's a bunch of cases.

Look, there's a history of cases. This is the thing. People love to fucking go, oh, it's a war on cops. It's a war on it. And look, there's always going to be people fucking going off with the wrong facts, maybe, or like not getting everything right in the fur, or just getting fed up. The idea is, like, when someone's painting a wide, brush it's a lot easier to make that point when you're not making the point that cops don't do

anything but fucking give candy and marshmallow so they're fucking and they save everyone's lot i mean can we just be real for a second you know rodney king i think a bunch of the cases that came up in the past six years i think you all got off right yeah yeah no one got anyone get convicted in any of these tamir rice the kid would like they just fucking they just the guy fucking like didn't even stop the car like he fucking was like sure i feel like the guy's like like just like jimmyr i feel like the guy's like jumped out of his car, starts surfing on his hood, like fucking pee-wee Herman or something

and just, like, there was no reason for it. Yeah. He was to get out of guns. Why, what are you doing? So none of these people get convicted. So, you know,

when people, in this case, totally appropriate, uh, yeah, look, this is the right fucking call, I think.

Yeah, no, it's completely the right call. And it's, it's an overdue call. Right, what's my point, yeah.

It's an overdue call. People are fed up that, you know, it's like, if people were getting arrested for this shit, it wouldn't solve. everything like if every if every day 10 let's just say 15 black kids got shot by cops but we will we arrest them we still have to look into it yeah we i'm not saying it's the only thing but we still

have to look into why why you shoot these people like like like i'll go to jail it's fine like no this is this kind of weird cobra from gi joe thing we're all just you know then you meet up in prison and like as good fellows when they're making sausage something i don't know i'm just saying as a rule right cops it's not just that they don't get held accountable. It's not just that they don't get held accountable when they do things. It's that, you know, in some states, depending on what the laws are, depending on what the, you know, national laws look like at the time, sometimes cops don't even have to keep records of who they shot and why. That seems, I mean, that's true. That's true. I've ever heard,

this is to be a fair counterpoint. I've heard for years that like, you know, they're accountable for every bullet. Is that not true? From who? Fat Johnny who hands up the bullets? What did you do with that bullet? I shot a kid. All right. You're literally, it was literally a line and bad lieutenant.

What was? No, no, no, I'm kidding. Oh, okay. It was a line in bad lieutenant. Lucy,

I was thrown because one time I, and Lucy had a bunch of friends over. And I don't know why. A bunch of female friends. And for some reason, and again, I'm not this crazy. There had,

we spent a long time trying to figure it out. But I honestly can't. I know I wouldn't have done it without a reason, but I can't for the life of me think of what it was. I was like, let's just watch this scene in Bed Lieutenant where Harvey Keitel pulls over those two young girls, maybe underage,

maybe 18, I forget, and basically forces them to like pantomime, given the moral, you know, on the pretense that he's going to call their dad because they're fucking speeding or something. And there was some reason why I thought that was a good thing to bring up in front of your friend

to show on YouTube on the TV. Well, you were like, this is funny. This is funny. This is my point. This is the conversation we would have. I didn't just say, this is funny. Let's just watch, hey, we're watching the Anchorman and fucking, you know, old school fucking blooper reels. And it's like, oh, have you seen this one?

And the other tenant, this phone. Show me how you suck a man's cock. Show me how you're sick of a guy's cock. Isn't this great? This can't be what I was doing. This is what Opie and Anthony did to us. They did it to both of us. Perhaps.

I mean, look, I'm willing to grow. But so I didn't, so, you know, whenever you bring up bed of lieutenant, I'm always like, what did I do? What did I do? Um, but yeah, and then, so there was some, uh, I guess people were celebrating inappropriately. Look, it's the kind of thing. It's, it's overdue. Uh, it's good that happened. And then, uh, people were fucking, you know, some people were like, you know, oh, this is great.

This is so fucking good. Like, just chill out, like, white people. Just chill, like, just stop making yourself, like, just stop making yourself, like, you know, Like, there was that, I guess I was talking about it. No, I was going to bring a Blaber, but the fucking, bring up that Raiders tweet. The Raiders tweet? So the Raiders tweet, so I can breathe. Which is, of course, a reference to George Floyd saying, I can't breathe.

Yeah. So I guess, are they implying, I mean, this was true the whole time. You could breathe. Well, well, you know, it depends. It depends on what the guy looks like. Maybe the guy, you know, maybe the guy is the guy is kind of a guy who can really relate to this subject. Who is the social media manager who did this? No, no, no.

I'm talking about the guy who ordered it all. Oh, that's right, because the owner actually fucking ordered his social media team. The fucking, so, like, let's just bring up a picture of the owner. Maybe he has a real connection to this stuff. Let's see. This guy looks like a fucking, like someone just glued fucking silly putty onto a skeleton. Yeah. What is he?

Do we know where this guy is? He's the owner of the Raiders. where did he get his money from? Was he like, he seems like a fucking, like, is that an offensive thing to say an imp? No, right? No, he does.

He looks like, was that a term for a midget? I don't know anymore. But some kind of toking creature who found like a fucking magic ring or a fucking lamp or some shit and wished to be a real tall boy. And that's what he looks like.

Just a misshapen token or like an ork, an orc who became who was kissed by a princess and now he's a man that nobody looks like this in real life guys see this and they they think this is what they look like to people nobody looks like this in real life i don't know what this is but uh he yeah i just we found so funny to think about this guy like apparently like people like people were like people are trying to like out the social media managers for the team like people who tweet for the team going like hey raider i'm assuming hey raider nation let's tailgate this weekend and get some hot dogs and fucking uh we're gonna kick uh we're gonna we're gonna kick san francisco's butt yeah whatever i'm sure

they're a little more savvy than that that's not how i tweet but i don't know how you tweet when you're tweeting for the raider nation right the rater football team but uh whatever this this guy comes barreling the door i don't me and my wife came up with something you have an idea oh yeah she's probably she was probably all wine drunk she's drinking right she's drinking red wine with ice cubes in it yeah having they're at dinner watching having a showbin trial She's like, oh, dear, you should, you should tweet something about how you can breathe, because I can finally breathe. He's like, that's good. That's good.

He's fucking creamy horse rider's shipper. He's, like, that's weird mouth. Yeah. He's like, that's good. And he gets the fucking kind of phone. He's like, I don't care if it's inappropriate. I'm telling you what's appropriate. I'm the head of Raider Nation.

So, yeah, this guy's a good. Do you think it was, like, if they waited a day, a big good tweet, though? I think it was just timing? Oh, no, no way, is it? What if it was, we can breathe? We can breathe. I don't know. George Floyd is still dead.

What if he tweeted? What if he tweeted this? Well, I'm trying to make it better. I'm trying to picture myself in the room, in the Twitter room. Okay. At Raider Nation, Raider football. And the guy comes in, and I'm like trying to kind of push him over the edge or back from the edge, ledge, what do we call it?

All right, all right. I get what you're going for. What about if we tweet George Floyd can breathe? No, that doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound right. No, it's never going to sound good in a tweet. Is there anything you tweet? What about is just like?

Back to football. It's never going to sound good in a tweet. I mean, that's really what it was. I think honestly what it was. It was just like, can we get back to football now? That's what you say. I can breathe. Yeah.

Back to football. Back to football now. I'm sure he's a lovely guy. I'm sure he made his money selling, you know, maxi pet, really organic maxi pads to women and the stressed nations. Yeah. For affordable prices or something great. And then this, you know,

but this is the kind of stuff that's going on that day. We can take him off the screen. Put the couple of it right on. I don't want this guy. In our lives forever? This is the ghost of Christmas. I don't know. Flesh.

I think the media, could I just share us with you? Sure. I think the media made millennials think that they were the same, like sex craze maniacs as their parents. Our parents were kind of sex craze maniacs because their parents repressed them. But we're kind of a reset.

Like we're kind of like the honeymooners. Are you just admitting to that we don't fuck? No, no, no. We fuck when we feel like it. What? The media convinced us that we're sex craze. I'm confused. I think the media convinces us that we're sex craze maniacs.

And we're not. Like we, you know, we fuck when we want to and we hang out when we want to. Right. I didn't have a fucking, I wasn't part of, that crew of kids that had with the snap bracelets and the blowjobs or whatever

or the blowjob bracelets that wasn't me I didn't grow up like that wholesome I had pink hair and I wore a care bear's t-shirt yeah no one's giving me a bracelet to suck their ass yeah that's not you know so I don't know where the media got that idea from I don't know who they're you know why don't you ask a more diverse group of uh you know

diversity is great and all types of things so why don't you ask you know have a more diverse selection of people who you ask if they fucking you know got a fucking a nice ring for getting a rim job or something yeah really i never got that um right so you're a follow-up for that anyway no no i'm just okay you know right the media yeah the media is bad the media sucks but uh yes that's that was the one thing concept it was going on that day and then lebron james in the midst of this um tweeted out uh because basically what happened was like As this verdict was getting aired, a young black woman was shot by a cop in Ohio, I guess, right?

Yeah, but it didn't happen. The thing is, people don't understand that these things didn't happen at the exact same time. It happened pretty similarly. I don't think so. I think it wasn't this footage that people were trying to get from the police for a while? I don't think so. I think it was happening while the verdict was kind of like when we were watching the verdict, that girl was getting shot, I think.

There's a behind-the-scenes thing that goes on sometimes. I see it because I hang out with activists. And activists, no, no, no, I do. I hang out with activists. It was funny. And the activists are always trying to get the police to release the footage that might incriminate them. Right. Well, I think on this, I know, I agree with that.

I agree that, you know, the media can time things, sinister way just to get shit going. I think in this case, because of maybe what was going on that day, maybe it propelled them and go, oh, fuck, we better get this tape out right. now. Right. What happened was this girl got shot, right? And she, I don't know.

I think she called the cops originally because these people came over her house. But you watch the body cam for, and, you know, they might have brought the knife in the first place. But you watch the body cam footage and the cops like, you know, what's going on? He's asking this girl in a pink shirt. And then a scuffle kind of comes across. These people are fighting. And then the girl who got shot eventually, eventually, it was all in like six seconds.

Fucking, you know, it's like lunging at the other girl with a knife. I'm pretty sure that's that. accurate. I don't think it's really debated. So it's like, you know, the cop was not in a great situation. People say if he's a taser, I don't know if it's debatable. It was chaotic. It was chaotic.

People say shooting people in the leg. Shoot with the leg is not, I don't think it's a great idea unless that's propaganda from people, but I mean, everyone seems to say, like, don't shoot people in the leg because, like, there's a lot of arteries, and you bleed out really easily. Also, it's easy to miss, and then the bullet can go through. I don't know. I think it makes sense, but I'm not going to, like, die in the crucifference. of, like, because I'm not gun expert, but it seems, but, you know, there is a logic to why you

shoot Senator Mass. Sure. Point is it wasn't, it wasn't, like, for instance, a Derek Chauvin type situation. It was much more murky about whether he did the right thing. And then LeBron James tweeted out a picture of that cop, and he says, oh, to be clear, I mean, I guess everyone knows, but the girl's lunging the girl's knife, he shot, no, I guess I established that. Yeah.

So, LeBron James tweets that picture of that cop. Right. And, and I like LeBron James, I don't know if I can call. I'm a friend of the show. I like to. Friend of the show. I mean, I've tried to get him

to wear my wine princess t-shirts. Yeah. He never responded. This is not really the appropriate time to bring it up. I'm just saying,

if he is listening, you know, the offer stands. Yeah, I'm saying, like, you know, he's not going to tweet out

a picture of the cop who, you shot the girl and, uh, you're next, he tweeted. And he said,

accountability. No, I don't think it's a threat. I think he's saying your next, but chauvin. The thing is, It's decidedly not a threat.

He's not saying, he's not saying, let's kill this cop. Right. He's saying that's, that's, that's, that's hear out this case. Right. I don't even know why I just say this, because it's pretty clearly not, right? Like, yeah, it's like, uh, no, you look, is that given the fact that we established in our opinion is a murky situation where it's like, you know, you don't have the same, uh, clear cut. Like he's a guy, like I thought the guy, for instance, could have been a little more aggressive when he first got there in announcing himself, maybe flesh his side. Again, I'm not second-guessing what I don't know.

But, like, it just seemed to me, like, more like, get on the background. Like, if I was in the cop, I'd just, get on the fucking ground! And then if they still, you know, and if you heard me screaming that, and then they still didn't do anything, it might give some context of point, oh, they really didn't care about the cop guy. But he was going to get on the ground, got it just seemed very weak. Lord to project better. That could help, right? Like, just now make your presence known better.

Right. Yeah, he didn't really project. If I was his, you know, cop coach, I would not have passed him from the Academy until he learned to fucking get some guttural noises coming out. I've seen it myself that the cops are young guys who are alienated and they're a little bit indoctrinated by bad ideologies.

And they come to you with a lack of confidence that a bully has. like the lack of confidence that a bully has. Oh. A bully has a lack of confidence and they project it on you. Sometimes bullies are just fucking, I've met confident bullies.

I met confident bullies, but they're soft on the inside. Sure. Like I, once you get that mojot brace, they're soft on the inside. Sorry, is that crude? No, no, no.

I'm sorry. That wasn't crude. You're not crude, but women like you, Ray. That was bullies. No, I agree. Yeah, they're soft, again, I don't want to be like, oh, you're soft. And then, like, they would just kick my ass if they've met in real life.

Because I'm not in great fighting shape at the moment. I don't want to be the guy going, look at these weak cops. No, no, no. I guess what I'm saying is, I'll tell you a story about something that happened to me. Sure. I'm severely mentally ill. And some people know that about me and some people don't, right? I have, like, I have something that's like, it's not paranoid schizophrenia,

but our parents probably would have called a paranoid schizophrenia. any it's like disassociative disorder or something but i don't know i talk to myself a lot i talk to myself a lot and i look like a crazy lady sometimes i look like a sometimes yeah yeah yeah you know people people walk past me and they tell me to tie my shoes because i look like i'm in space and uh and you scream fuck off back shoes are tied and i'm the king of king of carmesan well i think some white women do do that like i think they're like i'm not in my head you're in my head and it's like no no I get it. I'm in my head. I'm in my head a little bit. Sure. And I'm, I'm pacing around. I'm talking to myself.

And one time, these three cops literally surrounded me. They, like, they literally surrounded me. They were like, you know, I was just walking around smoking a cigarette, and I made, I dart around, I make sharp turns. And they... And they... Looked it in the cop's face. And I felt like the cigarette in the cop's face, and I said, fuck you, Bucco. No, but I go, I go, you know, I turned down the street. And the cop car, like,

pulls right, you know, the cop car pulls next to me. And I'm like, all right, whatever, it's a cop car. And they're like, why are you running away from us? They asked that. They're like, why are you running away? I was like, I wasn't running away from you. I was just walking in a sharp, determined way. If you're asking why, like, first of all, can I critique the cops here?

Yeah. If I'm talking to you and I'm not running, it's not, why are you running away from a, why are you avoiding us? This guy, like, why are you running? When you darted in the other direction, slowly walking and kind of gyrating? Yeah, yeah, I jirating. This is the problem. The cop's got to start figuring out who's running away and who's just like walking in the other direction. Yeah, really.

That helps from things. Stop it. So what happened? You fucking, you pulled on the cop? No, no, I pulled on it. I was like, oh, I'm just walking and thinking. You know, I told them that. I was like, I'm just walking and thinking.

And they go, well, we need to see your idea. and I go, well, I don't really want to show you my ID. Right. And they go, you know, and they go, and I go, do I have to show you my ID? And they go, I don't know. You know, they go. I just kind of want to fuck with you. Yeah, I was like, I just wanted to fuck you with you a little bit.

You know, this is in a small town. Right. So I, you know, I mistook the police for being on my side sometimes. I mean, sometimes they get, sometimes they're on your side, but sometimes they get really cultish. Sure. and they go, you know, and they, like, very reluctantly let me walk away. And they kind of, and they did, like, physically close in on me. It's like, I'm a 5-1 woman, you know.

I don't want to be closed in on that way. And they do that to black people all the time. Sure. You know, they do. They do it to me rarely. They do it to them all the time. Yeah, no, look, I mean, this is just, uh, yeah, you can argue that, like, you know, certain things get, like, oh, the.

fucking the girl was stay the cop saved the girl with the knife uh so what you're you fucking people are shitting on him i got maybe he saved the girl i'm not saying he didn't yeah it's hard to say i know it's murky facts but the idea is like all right but like so this wipes out the fact that like yeah we all kind of even if you don't admit like you know if you're not the most guy who's like you know subscribes to systemic racism ideas or whatever you want to call it yeah you don't have to call it you still i'm saying even if you're kind of like, you know, they're not necessarily racist,

but kind of like, you know, I don't believe this. All right, be something kind of, you know, I mean, look, we were a country that fucking used to outlaw,

like black people going to fucking soda shops. Yeah. You don't think some of that's fucking holding over? We used to outlaw them being unemployed. Yeah. Like, this is not like we fucking,

it's not like the founding fathers were all black. We have, you know, we have the fucking, you know, the head of IBM's a black, you know,

a thousand years of black success and encouragement. And then we're going, like, well, it's racist. I mean, can you look at it and go, there's probably something to this. I can't believe it. The FBI, FBI crime stats. Yeah, the FBI, look, the FBI tells certain truths,

but they also have an agenda. You got to know that. Like, what? What truth do they tell? Yeah. I mean, you only need to go to the racist angle. I mean, you know, I was just hope you're never interviewed by the FBI regarding a fucking, you know,

they start asking about, you know, terrorist activity in your neighbor and all of a sudden they're selling you a fucking RPG. Yeah. But no, but let's trust their crime stats. Yeah. No, Louis C.K. is going to come back. He's going to be a conspiracy theorist with us.

Jay Edgar Hoover, obviously, was a fountain of, I mean, his analytical mind. And I know he's not in charge anymore, but, you know, whatever. Yeah. Point is, what was my point? I was talking about? Oh, yeah, just the cops. Yeah, look at the cops.

So you don't have to fucking necessarily. But we all know, whatever, it's shit's fucking bad, right? And you get stuck down on the nitty-gritty about fucking who's, how much this percentage or, but basically what happens. LeBron James tweets out this fucking tweet about the cop. And look, yeah, it's probably in this case, you know, not appropriate. It's just kind of the wrong move. And he deleted a tweet.

And then Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. who usually such a reasonable guy, so I was surprised. He's basically the Jewish Rush Limbaugh. We knew Rush Limbaugh. He was a cunt, and so is Ben Shapiro. He's like... I mean, I'm not Jewish, I can't say that, but, yeah, you are quarter Jewish, so you can...

Yeah, I'm a quarter Jew, you know, it's like... You're here so you can call him the Jewish Rush Limbaugh? Yeah, no, exactly. I am. You know, and I... No, look, it is a point. I mean, I'm not trying to cut you off, but yeah. No, there's a great cartoonist out there, Ellie Valley, who does these great

cartoons that are just about how Ben Shapiro makes him feel. And he basically makes him feel like an ugly Jew with no religion in his life. And like, you know, and it's like, and he talks about like, you know, he talks about how it feels to be alienated in that way. Which is odd because Ben Shapiro makes this Jewish guy feel like an ugly Jew? Yeah, he does. Because Ben Shapiro is like, yeah, so you're a Jew, but you should get on with the Christian conservative agenda.

You should get on with the Christian conservative agenda. You should get on with the Christian conservative agenda. agenda. And when Ellie Valley doesn't do that, he calls him a self-hating Jew. He calls Ellie Valley a self-hating Jew. Yeah, he does. Look, I don't know what, you know, Jews typically, if there is a typical thing Jews believe as far as politics, I don't think there are. They're mostly liberal. They're mostly, that's a stereotype. I don't know. There's probably plenty of conservative. No, I'm sure there are. Yeah. But not necessarily Ben Shapiro conservative. It's just like, hey, like, you know, I work for fucking, you know, Morgan Stanley and just don't take all

my money. Look, I can relate to. I'm, uh, you know, in some ways of physics. I don't know what I believe anymore because the whole world is fucked but I can relate to you know people who were like don't tax me you know 85% please yeah I get it uh I don't know what your Piro's it's just my pet pee when people go but look you don't have the group he's really smart no he's not like he's fucking going after LeBron James going like the media has fucking portrayed LeBron James like he's a some kind of political leader which I don't think is true I I'm a big LeBron James fan maybe to a full as far as basketball.

Maybe I'm in a LeBron James stand. Whatever. I miss Jordan. I didn't watch a lot of Jordan as a kid. So when he got in the heat, I'm like, I'm going to watch this period because it seems like something cool is going to happen.

Yeah. So I like LeBron James a lot. And it's a basketball player. And the guy seems like a guy I'd love to be friends with and hug and all sorts of, you know, whatever.

But he's like, but I've never seen him to be seen, you know, I don't think anyone ever called him a political leader. He's fucking. Well, no one called him a political leader until Trump did.

Trump did. Oh. The president. attacked him. And when the president attacks you, you become a political leader. Yeah, by the fold, I guess. When the president is going, it's just buck wild calling you a fucking,

I don't remember what he called him? I don't remember. I don't know. He says something awful. Laura Ingraham saying, shut up and dribble. It's like, what the fuck is Laura Ingraham done? They're even imperable to like,

I'm just saying this at a certain point. Not, not the same LeBron James isn't a very smart guy. If you know anything about basketball, you know he was. This is besides the point. but like it's not like he's some guy who just fucking rams into people and like you know like a left tackle and from i don't know much about football but a guy who just knocks people over there's still skill to that there's still i mean i'm not trying to degrade that but lebron james is like has the greatest basketball IQ of anyone who's ever lived probably the way he fucking sees angles and manipulates the fucking court and his field vision he meant to be the best shooter of all time and maybe this i mean he's a tremendous athlete but he's also got like an insane he's a basketball genius and that's not to say

well a basketball genius but like you know he's a moron no no you can't be that good at something and not be a really brilliant guy yeah maybe he's not he doesn't have to be also you know maybe he's not the most educated on like political things but you know he doesn't like go around trying to debate the salt treaty with jimmy

Carter right he's a guy who gives back to his community and then when shit happens like he's you know black guy who gets shot he fucking tries to be a leader uh or a figure you know which is like like no we're in new york when did we like when did we keep it out of sports since when we're in new york we see what we see what lebron james means to people like it's like you know it's like i don't know

maybe some people they live in areas where lebron james doesn't mean much to them but but he means a lot to some people i don't think new yorkers like lebron new yorkers don't like lebron i mean i love lebron so i figured i love lebron i'm just i mean a bunch of nick fans would probably beat me up and spit on me if i was like oh really okay i mean i don't think lebron they're kind of mad lebron they They wanted LeBron to come back in 2010 or whatever when he went to the heat. Because he said, this is how crazy New York fans are. When he went, it was the summer, wherever before, during the year before, he was like, would you come to New York?

And he was like, I'm keeping my options open. I'm keeping my open mind. And then he went to the heat and like, where are you going to keep an open mind? Like the first press conference. I did. I went to the other place. The point is.

Yeah. But no, look, and Ben Shapiro's just going like, he's not no one's calling political leader he is a kind of a whatever you call that a social figure leader like a role model yeah he's a good dude he's not out there like fucking getting slashed and fucking which is like even if he did like it's not who gives it he's a rich guy who gets drunk just not but he's like actually a pretty fucking solid whatever if you i don't care about family values but if you do he seems like a pretty good family values guy i don't care about if he wants to fucking chew hair around the court but if you do he doesn't do that

yeah so i don't know what the fucking he does the taco tuesday thing Taco Tuesday's fun. I love Taco Tuesday. I used to go to Taco Tuesday. Me, my best friend, we'd go to Taco Tuesdays every week at a fucking place in Long Island. And that place, the owner shot himself in the head in the back. Yeah. Because, you know, I guess I don't know why.

But they made really good fish tacos on Tuesdays. And I love that. So the point is... Yeah. No, it's like... And look, Laura Ingram and Ben Shapiro are failures who became journalists. Sure. LeBron James is a basketball genius who decided he wanted to...

after he had accomplished something huge, decided he wanted to say something about his community. Right. Yeah, like, it's not his trade. And he doesn't put, whatever, he fucking goes out there,

and he fucking made a fucking, I don't even want to call it. I didn't want to call it a bonehead tweet. It's just like, it's like, because I get the fucking instinct. I get when you're a fucking guy, and you just want shit to fucking get better.

And like, yeah, maybe he jumped a gun. It's like, you know what? Maybe we should have, but can the cops, can the cops stop shooting as many people,

maybe? That's all I'm saying. Yeah, just. And we have an idea for a second. But the point is Ben Shapiro is just a disingenuous blowhard. I just want to stress this enough. I mean, I don't care if you take away from this,

a Benchapiro is a racist, he's dog whistling. That's not the point I'm making in my... You can make that point if you want. And I have no problem with that point. But he's just not that smart. He's smart in this way. He knows how to grift and to get a fucking, you know, following. All right?

Because if he's like, oh, LeBron James knows nothing about fucking advanced statistics. If you knew anything about advanced statistics, you'd be in a think tank. trying to fix the world, but you're not. You're a fucking grifter on YouTube, just like everyone else. Yeah, really. What ideas does Ben Shapiro have? Does Ben Shapiro have any ideas?

Oh, LeBron James doesn't care if fucking black people shoot each other in the fucking streets, only if cops do. Well, first of all, who say he doesn't care? I don't know, but he really doesn't want people to talk to their friends and family about their ideas. He really doesn't want people to do that. He tells young men to repress their feelings, and they don't think they take him seriously, but they do.

He's a facts, don't care about your feelings. Actually, human feeling and morality put facts in context. We need to know historically that pretty much every black intellectual in this country has been shot. You know, a lot of them, they've been shot and killed. And like, in, well, like, yeah, I mean, back in the heyday of the civil rights movement. In the heyday of the civil rights movement. Yeah, a lot of them, I mean, a lot of the big ones, at least.

So if they're getting, probably dig out, be careful, they're going to get, they're going to get this. He can be like, I found this. guy who wasn't shot he wrote a self-help book in back in 1962 he's just going to come to our apartment and shoot us i fucking bite his face that's how you know that's what we feel sometimes like ben Shapiro wants to come to our apartment and shoot us i don't i mean that's what you feel sometimes i'm not i'm not worried about that i feel that way to be clear i'm not i'm not carrying not to call you camera but i am uh i'm the aggressive one right i yell about um eating his tongue.

I don't know. Sucking his tongue. I'm not attracted to Benjibb. I mean, whatever. If I was, whatever. I could do what I want. I'm a man. He's a man.

But I'm not. At a certain point, I realized, I thought you were afraid of Ben Shapiro. I thought you were afraid of Ben Shapiro. But really, you didn't want me to be afraid of Ben Shapiro. Because I'm the one who listens to them. Oh, yeah, because I would give me stuff. Like, don't listen to Benchapiro.

Right. And like, because Lucy would get trapped in these rabbit holes on YouTube. And like, stop listening to these people. Like, it's bad for you. And I guess, yeah, you thought, you thought, I was afraid of him. But I'm like, no, this guy has a huckster. He's a shill.

Yeah. It's like, he was like, no, no, you're being brainwashed by him, not me. It's like, it's like, and I was like, and at a certain point I had to realize that was true. And to be clear, you were being brainwashed in like, in the way that like, because these people have to like, in order to make anything that make sense, like paint the picture of the world that's even worse than it is. And like, and I, and the stereo like, oh, LeBahn James tweets this. Why isn't he talking about the Ugar Muslims in China?

And it's like, dude, where were you in the Iraq war? Were you fucking anti? Maybe he was the anti-Iraq war? Is he going to get me on this? I can't believe he would be, right? Um, uh, is he anti-Iraq war. Probably not back in the day.

I'm just saying, he really supported it. I know other people did. I don't get the impression that Ben Shapiro is fucking, you know, uh, showing him at mosques and like, you know, and handing out cookies and fucking support him.

I'm just, I don't, I haven't, again, I'm not the one who listened to his catalog, but why are you're Muslims? It really burns my fucking ass when people just like going, look, It's just this, it's just, everyone assumes that you fucking just, you know,

this is the first time you watch the news, or in this case, a YouTube channel. And it's like, and you play into it. Like, this is my thing. I don't watch Ben Shapiro because he's a clown. I didn't even know he went after LeBron. It made sense when you said it, and that's what you brought up to me. And like, oh, yeah, and he's bringing up these fucking, oh, this guy's supposed to be a political leader. And a year ago, this is what he was doing, I think he was during the NBA bubble, this video of LeBron James.

I guess after another black kid got shot or a black guy, I don't remember which case it was. I'm assuming that's when it was. He was holding a copy of Malcolm X or a biography during a press conference and he's just sitting in the chair. Now, does that seem like a staged prop kind of thing?

Yeah, and like, you know, he's probably trying to send a message. I'm sorry. He's trying to say this guy is worth reading. And he is. Yeah, and also, like, is he trying to fucking, you know, show some kind of message there? Sure.

I'm sorry he's not, you know, working for the guys who make the Super Bowl ads. He's not, you know, he was a little clumsy. How about you fucking realize the context and go, I don't like the execution of how we tried to fucking bring attention to black people getting shot by cops. The execution is this bullshit thing of the execution was off.

But basically, this weird person asked the question, oh, you got, you know, Malcolm Exx's autobiography, also with how Alex Haley, which I thought was a weird dig almost. Because Alex Haley co-wrote it with them, right? But you don't have to bring it up in the, you know, like also just be clear Malcolm Malcolm Max didn't write his own or a biography Alex Haley helped him

like I felt like that was a fucking thing she was doing right and you're like what part of the book did you like I don't know where you are in the book which is also another dig I feel like like hey idiot did you get past the first page and it's like what did you like about the book right just the whole question seems like

I was just fucking start pissing myself and going this is what you did this is what this is I'm not going to hit a woman so I was just and I'm just able to fucking do leaps and bounds and go, you can't do this. I look cool. I can't look cool.

So I just start pissing myself and spit it in my mouth. Yeah, totally. But he goes, oh, you know, it's just, and it's not, look, it's not the most eloquent fucking thing. He says, you know, look, it's just he's a really smart guy. And this is a lot of stuff he was talking about then is happening now. And yeah, it's not exactly a fucking, you know, the New Republic or the New Yorker's fucking review of the book.

He's leveling with people. Right. By my point he's saying you're not very educated. Right. And Ben Shapiro's trying to point to this going like, why are you fucking, this is a guy who you want political viewers from? He doesn't even know the book.

What do you, maybe LeBron James did read the whole fucking book. And maybe he does like certain parts. But I mean, he's also still a business guy. Maybe he didn't want to be like, what's your favorite part? Or the part where he says white women's tears are a weapon? Maybe he's trying to fucking not like,

oh, why don't make it political. He's trying, I think. Or the part where he says, don't take help from white people. Is that something Malcolm X said? Don't take help from white people. I know what the thing after he went back of Africa or whatever. He fucking said not. I don't know.

I'm just saying. He had a complicated life. Yeah. He had a complicated life. I'm just saying. I'm into Malcolm. I like Malcolm. I'm almost for Malcolm X.

But I'm sorry of LeBron James tried to fucking measure his words. In a time where people, in a time where, again, black public intellectuals will literally be micromanaged and nitpicked for any, any reaction or reference to history. And you did that, Ben Shapiro. Benzapiro is a point of this. I'm talking to him a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's listening. I think he's listening. I think he's listening right now. I mean, look, on the Patreon last week, we happened to find this Ben Shapiro clip right before we started. And it was because Candice Owens just joined the fold, which let's not even get into the Canada. I mean, whatever.

But, like, there was this really creepy video we dissected where, like, fucking the three guys are like welcoming Candace Owens to the, I don't know, the Benchewans to the, I don't the Ben Shapiro company and they're all going don't trust this guy he'll take his shirt off don't go don't be in a room alone with him it just felt like he was like threatening like this guy's going to rape him we're cool with that i'm not saying he said that i'm just saying like the vibe to me if i was that woman uh yeah i would get a bad vibe from that i'm like this just seems rapy but whatever the bigger sin is that he doesn't have any ideas for how to stop these shootings doesn't care he actually cares he doesn't care i have ideas nice i have an idea

Okay, here's the thing. The cops, don't know yet, the cops, this case is an example, right? This case is where the cops, obviously, just fucking Yahoo's, Derek Chauvin. Like, what is this guy fucking doing? You can't account for that. You got to put that guy in jail, throw away the key or the, or the key card or the fucking whatever, or the, whatever they do, throw the baton away. Right.

Throw them in the ocean. Like, it's like, oh, Osama bin Laden. But, you know, dude, look, I, I, I, I. I am kind of fucking sympathetic to the idea that there are fucking, it's a, it's a complex job, right? And you watch that video of the girl tonight, like it's split second's decisions.

And sometimes there's no good, you know, fucking answer. Right. And so part of the problem is training. And part of the problem, in my opinion, is the structure. Now you might go into like, you know, community fucking organizing and fucking,

uh, the structure of the finances, the budget. All right. But I have a more specific structure in mind. I am going bring up the first picture The little group The first top left

This is Final Fantasy The original Final Fantasy From Nintendo NES It's a role-playing game Where you basically You fight monsters right You can easily swap out

What these monsters are for whoever You know there's different types of monsters The point is But look what you have here You have not just four people that look the same, right? No. You have an assortment of things.

And, look, while diversity is great, I am not talking about what we think of normally as diversity. No. I am talking about a cross-section of skills. Go to the next picture. A little group? Yeah, the top, no, the top,

now they're fighting horses, right? So the other ones, they're fighting these weird imps. Now they're fighting horses. Different situations call for different tactics, right? this is this is what i'm bringing to the table here bring up yeah bring up the group first the big group final fans final fan but here's what it is you have different classes of people you have the the fighter guy in the bottom left and you have the this guy here's a black belt i think they call them they have the black mage you have the white mage the red mage i don't know

i never like the red mage he's like a fighter who also can do some spells pick a lane and then this guy's a thief which i mean in our situation we're not going to use the thief i mean the thief currently exists he's the cop who like steals uh you know steals the brick of coke and then plants a gun on you yeah the cop's you know the rampart guy yeah they steal your wallet i don't think he helps no i don't think i don't want to incorporate the thief in my model so we're going to scratch him out but bring up the fighter guy so here's the thing that's that no that's the blue on the fighter the fighter the fighter oh the right guy this is a little small picture you know whatever you sort of big picture it's fine you're smart

people this is a fighter guy he's the baseline cop that we all know some people love some people hate you all know i was gonna say although no in love and i caught myself he's a cop he's a cop with the gun right and uh he's he's fucking he's he's the guy with the gun now here's where it's interesting no we know we don't have to explain too much he's a cop or the gun here's he here's how i came to this fucking situation because here's the thing people were talking about well why didn't he just go fucking uh you know try to disarm the girl physically and here's a real reality you have to have some you know you can be generally against what the cops are doing but i don't understand certain realities of when you when you have a gun it's a certain you have responsibility not to

let someone take your gun away now might if that sounds dumb to you i don't think you're really thinking about it there is a certain thing if you get into a scuff with someone. If you start, you know, scuffling on the floor, trying to get a guy down, he can grow, and it's how this has happened. I don't know the fucking statistics on how often this happens. I think it's a real enough threat that like, you know, the guy can get your gun. And now he's got your gun, shoots other people. You've brought a gun into the situation and it's a problem, right? So you don't want to get too close. That's part of the reason why they, you know, they don't just fucking go. I mean, there's a whole thing of like,

also people, there's people with a knife, right? Right. People, you watch these videos on YouTube. You know, again, I'm not trying to, you know, be indoctrinated by the cop videos either. Right. I think there is science to this where, like, a guy, you have, there's a certain amount of distance. If a guy's charging you with a knife, you have to, like, you only have a certain amount of time before you can shoot him, right? Like, if you don't shoot him when he's four, I think it's four feet away, whatever it is. Like, you might think, oh, I can shoot him in the last second. But, like, if, there's reasons why that's not really practical.

Right. Like, where the guy, they do these drills and the guy just stabbed you in the face. No, to be fair. That's also clarify that this most recent case. It wasn't a guy. It was a 15-year-old girl who, you know, sometimes people don't treat her like she was a young girl, but she was, you know, she was. No, I agree. Like, I agree.

But here's the thing. We're trying to fix, we're trying to prepare these cops for an assortment of problems. And assortment of problems. The horses or the M's or the weird orc, anything, all right? So here's where it gets interesting, because you want a cop to be able to grapple someone, right? But then you shouldn't have a gun then. You shouldn't have a gun, because then the gun gets taken away. Oh, don't have a gun if you can grab.

But you need the gun. You need there to be a gun there a lot of the time. There's enough times when people have guns, people have knives. You can't just not give them guns. Maybe other countries do it. I don't know what's wrong with our country. But I don't think it's practical to say cops don't have guns, right?

Yeah, unfortunately everybody has guns right now. So here's my plan, the core of my plan, and there's more to it. But the foundation is the blue guy. The blue guy. This guy. By the way, I'm not a villa fine. guns when I say that. I'm just saying it creates certain problems. Like, when everybody, I'm not vilifying guns. I'm saying when people have guns,

it naturally creates certain social problems. Look, I agree. I'm, I've had a gun in the past. I mean, I like shooting. I don't know if, you know, look, people have to argue about the specifics, about there's just many guns. When are we going to decide that we, like, we, there's a problem here and it's more important than whether we like to eat venison? Right. Yeah. It just is. We're like, we want to fight the fucking, you know, I said before, oh, we want to fucking fight the government.

I do. I, look, I get that. It's hard to deny the idea in theory that, like, this country was kind of built by people who fucking rebelled against the government. Sure. I get it. And if you ever fucking did anything that was like, you know, if you ever rebelled against the government for anything, oh, give us universal health care, maybe I'd be interested. Give us a stop fucking going on Iraq.

Hey, we're going to storm the Capitol with our guns and say, don't go to war. You have my attention. But there's not what happens. The kind of people who, you know, as bad as the government is, the kind of people who are, it's not the guy who's fucking, it's not William Faulkter and fucking, who's no, and leaning on with DiCaprio, I can't think of better people. There's better people in them. Yeah.

But who is someone you'd want to overthrow the government? Who's someone I would want to overthrow him? through the government? If he had the hat. Who would be the best person? LeBron James. Sure. It's not going to be LeBron James.

It's going to be a guy who's fucking, I don't know. They're building a gallows and their capital. But I don't know what the world is anymore. I'm just trying to fix it. So what I'm saying is, yeah, guns. Guns are a problem. Joe Rogan is kind of like our intellectual grappler. He's not intimidated by the Milos of the world.

And we should, you know, appreciate that. Like he's like, he's not, you know, the thing about Fennison is like, It's, you know, he's like, he has his gun. But he's, you know, he's a mature individual. Yeah, look, look, I don't think Joe Rogan's right about everything. Yeah. I don't agree with him. But, like, you know, but the left should view him as a guy who, when people come on a show and go,

yeah, we shouldn't have regulations. What are you talking about? Yeah, he's going to go, what the fuck you're talking about, dude? He's a piece, like, much like my thing. I'm building a system here, and Joe Rogan would be one of these guys. He'd be the guy who you just bring him and go, the fuck are you talking about. I work construction. You need building codes.

Well, yes, do not. You know? I don't think he's ever said down in the show, but that's how I feel when I listen to Joe. I like, whatever. Yeah. Joe, Joe. We're friends.

So this, the blue, the black belt guy is the cornerstone of why this works. Because here's the epiphany I had. You need a guy who's just fucking trained in all sorts of like, you know, crazy martial arts, you know, Krav Maga, grappling. He's armored. I don't have a picture of the armor, but like, Armored up, like, better than, like, you know, a prison armor guy, but, but like that kind of. Like, just fucking plated armor here.

Like, not play, you know, composite plastic, I guess. Whatever, I'm saying, he's ready to rock. It's, it's, it's, it's, remember when he has a stiff armor and eventually he gives him the, the sections? He goes, yeah, he might get stabbed a little bit, but, you know, you fucking, we can move. He needs that. He needs the Batman suit, basically. Right. And he's going to, you roll up in a situation.

He fucking charges at the guy off the knife, right? He just runs in like a fuck. I mean, he's an athlete. Look, you're not going to get every cop to be a fucking stellar athlete. A lot of these guys aren't in the proper shape. A lot of, you can't expect them all. I know the Tokyo Police Department makes you do either karate or judo, not judo. With a judo and Kendo, that'd be nice.

But I'm saying we can get one quarter of the guys we can get doing this shit, right? And they just charge in like a maniac and just start fucking punching people. the fucking boxers you're like ducking and weaving they're hitting the fucking victim and the fucking perpetrator right it's not going to be pretty but hear me out and then you have the fighter guy

the red guy he's fucking got the gun pointed now maybe it's a fucking AR 15 in this case because he don't have to use it necessarily you got the guy on the ground but the guy on the ground doesn't have to worry about getting his gun taking because he doesn't have one but the guy the gun has his back so if his friend has

a gun you know of the criminal or, you know, something goes wrong, he can tase or shoot or whatever if need be. Because there are all going to be times you need to do that, right? Sure. But he's got your back and he's got a fucking scope, maybe. He's got a fucking laser scope.

I don't know if that's going to work out well. I'm not saying to militarize the police war, but maybe, you know, whether, maybe not an AR. Maybe just give him a regular gun. They should be, there was one guy, there was one cop, a single cop, and people clung to him for years, whereas, like, he would do these video diaries

of what happened in his community. when he was just nice with people, when he just checked in with people, when he saw how they were doing, when he saw if they were depressed, he saw if they were, you know, feeling mentally ill and like, you know, on a regular basis. And like, and it completely changed the way people interacted with them. Much like a social worker. Much like a social worker.

And that's what we're going to get to next, the black mage. Now the black mage is a wizard who casts aggressive spells. Now, look, it's not the best analogy, but the white mage is the medic. We're getting to that next, right? But the black mage is the guy who can talk you down. Right.

So we have, some people want to just get rid of cops, which I think is a very bad idea. Right. But I do. I agree to it too militarized, and, you know, maybe their budgets are too, you know, out of control. There's a lot of things we can do to change it.

But these people want, there should just be social workers. I don't think it's a great idea in and of itself. I do think having a soul, Here's the big thing, too. I want to make it clear. This is an escalade or suburban, right? This is not a squad car.

This is a fucking big SUV, like a Chevy suburban, that these four people, every unit has these people, right? This is the crux of the argument. Right. Every unit has a fucking fighter, shooter guy, he got the gun, the fucking boxer guy. Yeah. The social worker.

I should stop using the fucking, the social worker. Yeah. And we'll get to the medic in a second, but that's true. The social worker, the social worker goes in first. Well, the social, it depends on situation. If a guy's waving a gun around, pointing at a fucking, you know, probably a pharmacy, I don't think we send in the social worker first. Oh, maybe.

But if a guy's, if a guy's walking around for a knife, kind of like, you know, yeah, the social worker's there. And also, look, the fucking, and the guy of the gun is also got his back. Right. Yeah. Yeah, sure. So he's fucking there. All right.

So fucking, he can be like, hey. And then the fighter will be kind of like, and look, people get freaked out by guns, right? The fighter guy, though, he'll be an imposing guy, but he's also going to be a little, like a ninja or like a fucking, like a, like a, he'll know how to be discreet more than a guy of a gun. Right.

He's got that confidence. I'm just going to fucking roundhouse kick everyone. I'm going to fuck. I'm the big dick. Like shooting, these cops are not like fucking, it's not reservoir dogs, right? Like, these cops are all, a lot of the time. Some of them, maybe not.

I think I knew someone A friend of a friend or whatever Who went to Iraq and he was a sniper And he came back and he was a cop And he shot and like I'm not saying he doesn't really nilly But I'm saying I think he was like I think he was like

I was like whatever Some people Some people get used to guns But I don't think people use guns enough In this country to get that used to him Where you're just like No I'm just gives me that much confidence I'm afraid

Because what's gonna happen But the fucking fighter guy Sorry the fighter guy has that comment He's fucking hitting people all the time So he's there while the social worker's there and he's just fucking kind of like in case anything goes wrong I'm here

and if someone starts pulling if this is a fucking ruse got the guy of the gun what are you going to say oh sorry yeah he was a ruse guy with the gun yeah like what you're trying to do here is you're trying to humanize cops

as people who are flawed right well they have their roles to feel they can't do everything yeah you're trying to humanize them And, you know, sometimes the left things they don't want the cops humanized because Ben Shapiro pretends to humanize them. Ben Shapiro is like, is like, oh, they're human beings, so never criticize them. Like, it's like, it's, you know, they're, you know, no.

It's like they're human beings, so criticize them. Yeah, look, they're human beings. And look, in some places they're paid very well and some places they're not paid that well. I don't know if it's across the board they're paid. Like, you're not always getting the people who are, like, I don't want to, again, paint a huge broad brush and go, getting the worst people but like let's be honest i'm not i was not a guy recruited out of college

for anything i didn't even finish i mean whatever i mean i did but i finished college i don't want to brag about and we're going to butcher shop uh point is like i'm not like saying like i wouldn't be the cream of the crop either i'm not like but you know this is not like they're fucking getting goodwill hunting and fucking you know tom cruise from top gun uh and then saying hey why don't you patrol this fucking street all right i'm saying they're normal people who you do a civil service job and like yeah i'm just saying like we give them a certain role you break the it's a it's a it's a division of labor like adam smith right yeah and then the next key of the puzzle is we're going to be able to white mage oh sure that's the white man the medic

you have a medic this is part part of why you have the fucking suburban is you need for people and like you know you need to put the criminal somewhere or a suspect let's just say whatever someone who lost their dog I don't know but you need the fucking three rows I mean maybe they still have they still have the fucking

is there a bigger suburban there was a one that was the expedition maybe I don't know we'll look into this the car is the one thing I don't know for sure which model

but here's the thing you have a fucking makeshift you have basically an ambulance you have most things an ambulance has in the fucking SUV so you're not how many times

you're going to watch a cop shoot someone right or not or like appropriate or not and then wait get a medic here have the medic there already yeah why are we doing you have the medic there right uh not everyone's gonna live because the you know the paramedic can't save everyone and even the doctor can't save everyone but you have the fucking blood sucking machine or the suction whatever they do i don't know how they get bullets out of you what they do to stabilize you

but you have that most of that in the fucking uh the SUV the big the big long SUV right and you guys roll around like a fucking unit right now i want to point is up you know before you get why don't we just have social we just have we just have medics here's why because you show that picture of why you don't just have medics which one is that the third one uh i think so no the next one this is why it can't just be medics it can't just be medics the skeleton guy is just fucking running roughshadow these white mages these medics you can't solve everything with epinephrine but you should have the epinephrine there

But the thing is, the thing is, we turn. Bring the, in case we get content IDs. No, but the, I can't blow it. We should clarify that people, like, people, you know, these are, you know, in these video games, these are images of monsters, right? You're playing against monsters. Right. In real life, you're playing with people.

But the horses aren't monsters. I thought those horses were very pretty Where are the horses? Second one? They're fighting horses. Bad pony, they call them. Bad pony.

Mad pony. Yeah. Like mad cat. So I tried to make the point. Look, the point is different situations. Everything can be a monster. Every situation's a monster, right? Right.

Think of that way. Every situation is a monster. A kid is a monster because you don't know you might end up shooting a kid is bad. The situation's a monster, maybe. Sometimes you're the monster. I'm not saying all cops are like fucking, you know,

making the right call and not being shitty. I'm just saying, let's bridge the fucking gap here. Let's fucking figure it out. You know, this way we fucking, we negotiate when we can.

We fucking, you know, we disarm people when we get. Yeah, some people can get bruises who don't deserve them because the fucking guy who grapples

is just kind of a wild dog. He's punching people. He's got this fucking armory. Let's go. He's into it. Right? Yeah. The one thing in my plan

Are we going to have a problem finding a guy who wants to wear that armor all day? Because he's got to roll around in the car like that all day. I mean, maybe we find some kind of quick armor, like, not Iron Man, but like some kind of thing that can, like, you know, it's like, it's over his seat. And so he just fucking, like, really backs into it. Right. That could be cool, actually. And he backs into it. And then there's a fucking thing drops down.

And he's like, I'm good to go. And you start running. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, and look, if you really want militarized the police, maybe we put a fucking 50-cali, you know, machine gun on top. of the fucking SUV in case there's a fucking uh what school shooting that they're not going to go into anyway right i don't know i mean i don't know why you need the tanks sometimes the cops just

choose to stay out of it when we're shooting each other yeah i don't know why when the tanks are appropriate but like if you need the time maybe we have i'm open to the idea but you have that fucking medic there so you shoot someone the 50 caliber machine gun and then you give them a shot a penicillin right in this case it's not the best but in general i think i'm all the same i'm all the same something here and no i mean why ben jpiro's so smart why is he talking about this why is he just go he's a shill i'm here with ideas look up the cump logo again yeah i don't leave these things up for too long uh i'm like andrew i'm not my political ally of andrew yang not necessarily i don't think he's as hateable as everyone says but the guy you got at least the guy's got some

different ideas no the guy the guy um and that's just like me andrew yang i'm I have a feeling that Andrew Yang is sort of like a leftist who glad hands people. He, like, he goes around and he endears himself to people, which is smart. I don't even know if he's a leftist personally. He could be. I think he's more of a guy going, like, kind of like me going. I'm like, look, I'm sympathetic to narco-capitalism in theory. In theory.

I'm sympathetic to the Walden Pond. We all got a fucking, you know, self-sufficient and get the government off our back. I get where you're coming from. But look at this mess we have. financially the whole country is rotting apart people getting shot left and right whether they're in schools or grocery stores or anything I'm just saying like we got to embrace that millennials are a generation of people who are afraid of getting shot and like and and we're afraid of it in a very like

hyperactive way and if you say well like oh statistically you're better chance of whatever well then what's the media doing why is the media inflaming you yeah it's like you know I think we brought up, I don't know, it was the main thing in the Patreon. We played the, you know, we played the patron, we played the clip of, after that, that grocery store shooting. And I think it was like, Good Morning America or CBS this morning or whatever, when it's like a terrible shooting in a grocery store. Everyone goes to the grocery store. Like, the first thing they say. Yeah.

It's like they just, they want to get you into hysterics. They want to get you into hysterics. Like, they go, they go, you know, and then they make men and women hate each other. They go like, the women dive into the internet And look at a bunch of memes Saying they're depressed, ugly, and sad And, you know, the men go into the internet And look at a bunch of memes saying that they're villainized

I look at socket wrenches, but yeah, sure Yeah What do I look at now in YouTube? I watch ContraPoint, she's great Yeah, look at ContraPoints, I don't know her, but You know, if she's a secret fan, we love everyone on the show Come on, she's great. She's a fun, she's a fun,

She's a fun, what do you call it, what do you call it, trans educational fun videos? She's a very nuanced and intelligent trans woman. She puts being trans in context for people. You know, that's what James Baldwin did. He put being black in context for people. Michael Chabon, I know you don't like him, but he put me. I look at one of my favorite movies.

I read the book. Oh, right, you do like him. I just thought, you know, I took issue with a small part of, whatever. I'm going to do it. Never mind, never mind. He, like, you know, he puts being Jewish in New York. York in context. Yeah, that's the part I felt it was a little funny, maybe, but, you know, whatever.

I just felt like he was taking ownership of, like, oh, I'm a kid from Yonkers. Like, are you, though? Yeah. And he's from Pittsburgh, isn't he? What? I think he's from Pittsburgh. He wrote that book, Mysteries of Pittsburgh. Why's he running about Pittsburgh?

He was from Yonkers. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Maybe he moved around. I like, I like the movie and the book of Wonder Boys, but I don't know if I trust this guy completely. Yeah. Wonder Boys, underrated movie, by the way. I loved The Adventures of Cavalier and Clay.

They were like a, you know, they're like two, you know, one's a Jewish boy who's been raised in New York. One's a Jewish boy who's been raised in Prague. And they get together and they make comic books about Superman. It's great. It sounds like a plant thing I've had. I feel like it's infringed on. What do you mean?

I had ideas about Jewish kids just, you know, from Prague doing stuff. I wrote basically, I wrote the, basically, the Jewish Prague sandlot. Oh, really? And I've been pitching it everywhere. I feel like, you know, now... Tell me about it. It's just basically a sandlot, but like, you know,

everyone's like, you know, the many characters, it's like, I know, I'm from Prague, you know, but he won't show about it, and everyone just hates them. It's like, stop saying you from Prague. It's not that... No one knows what Prague is. Is it cool? It's Prague?

Because people hear Prague. They don't know if it's one of the cool. Is Prague like France or is Prague like, you know, Ukraine. I'm not saying from Ukraine. It's not cool. But I'm just saying, it doesn't have the... is Prague one of those places that has the bestiche of a European city? And no one knows.

Prague is a very off-putting, not nothing wrong with people from Prague, but I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know what it is. There is a great author named Milan Kundera who kind of put Prague in context. I'll read some Kandela.

Yeah, the thing about Prague was that everybody, well, this was more around the Soviet invasion. It wasn't the Nazi invasion. But like the Soviets made everyone really paranoid about themselves, you know. Famously. Famously. They would turn, you know, mothers and they would turn parents and kids against each other. They would turn brothers and sisters against each other. Cats and dogs.

And then Jordan Peterson came down from Canada to tell us to stop doing that. I mean, look, Jordan, great guy. Great guy. I mean, I don't know what to say about Jordan. No, I like him. I think he demonstrates a mature conservative. I think he's. Sure. I mean, look, yeah, but take it easy on women, you know, wearing makeup and the workplace. Don't call them. Don't say they're asking for sexual.

you know, they're asking for it. They're wearing a blush because it makes you it makes you look like you got fucked. He came off a little weird in that interview. Yeah, I'm just saying. Like, you know, if he was in with the weird vice guys and he didn't understand them. Yeah.

You know, I think I could, like, if I'm in the situation, I could have, like, you know, got in the bottom of it, been like, you know, but these people just kind of like, they hear her fucking thing, go, huh? I'm like, why are you mean? A social conscience. This woman's not putting on blush

because she just got fucked. You know, she just, she wants to look attractive for the fucking the conference meeting and she's not fucking trying to pretend that she got fucked in the ass in the bathroom

Jordan what do you think you think you think you think she's doing a fucking one-act play in the middle of the boardroom going who just got their shit pushed in I would have said that to him

is why they should someone should make me an interviewer I guess I can make myself but you know when I ask people to come on the show they fucking their managers respond and they send me these letters

and say You know, don't come near us. Right. You should wrap up. You have anything else we want to close on? We're going to run out of it. No, no, I don't think so. This is fun.

This is fun. This has been a great time. Thanks so much. Where can people find you on a... They can find me on Twitter at Lucy underscore Rohan. Where can they find you? Twitter and Instagram at Ray Kump. You can sign up for our Patreon.

You get an extra episode every week for $5 a month. We also have a higher tier where you get an extra video episode for more money. But, you know, it's all great. But, you know, the other thing is a great deal, especially. You know, the $5 tier, you get four extra amount to wherever we're, whatever a week is. You get an extra everyone a week. I'm explaining them Patreon model, which is just for years now to people as if they've ever heard it before. But remember, I have this system of fucking cops and I need to implement it.

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