Kump - 9 - OLID Backdoor Pilot w/ Lucie Steiner
Episode Date: February 28, 2019Ray is joined by Comedian Lucie Steiner, who is also his cherished lover. Together they discuss how to keep women out of Science and Math jobs, Lucie's literary fetish, and Ray tests the limits ...of their relationship with a disgusting and provocative hypothetical.
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Hello, welcome to Kump.
Thank you for coming back right off the top.
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even though it was happening before them.
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So thank you guys.
If you guys want to be called out in a very mechanical way at the beginning of the podcast like this,
it can be yours.
You can be immortalized.
with my mumbling, cracking voice
I can say your name
I can say your wife's name
if you want to donate to the Patreon
but maybe like instead of your name
you put like Tina
I'm gonna burst your clit
with my passion
love Jeremy
like that could be the
that could be a thing we do
right I mean I don't know
that might end up in time
I can't be like doing clit reads
like the whole episode
But, you know, that could be a premium tier maybe.
I mean, Patreon has all these tier things.
So I could, like, send sexual messages to your wife.
I could, you know, review pictures of your wife or your boyfriend,
talk about their abs.
Anything sweet, anything sexual or political, even.
If you have a political friend who wants me to, you know,
chime in on Palestine on the episode in a kind of a lively sort of fashion,
that can be paid for.
we can commodify me and my interaction with you on a very transactional one off basis you know so let's have a dialogue you know get on patreon uh because that's where the action is that's where podcasts uh you know where the dirt hits the hits the cum um or the cump if you will have you heard that saying dirt hits to come where the i haven't introduced you yet i'm sorry i am today this is the this is the i didn't trick you
you. That was a
cute, meat cute of some sort.
Look, this is a new,
we're broaching a new territory
here. This is the first episode of Kump
to have a guest.
And I'm very
excited to be joined today by
the esteemed
amazing stand-up comedian,
terrific comedy writer,
professional comedy writer. Can I say
who you wrote for? Oh, sure.
John Stewart. She wrote for John Stewart
in a great show, which I have
I've not seen, but it was great.
And also, my sweet lover.
Yes, we're a hot comedy item.
We're a hot take.
We're a hot pocket together.
I like that even during your...
Boosie Steiner.
Thank you.
Hi.
Hello.
Everyone applaud.
You know we can't hear you.
Hi, Raymond.
This is my lover.
You might have seen her Instagram, and you thought you was just some chick who I tricked,
which is not, I mean, on some conceptual level, that might be true.
You're such a trap, right?
That's a sexist term.
Don't say that.
Who is that offending trans people?
I honestly kind of forget what it means.
It's a trap.
This is an interesting dialogue.
We watch a great, you should watch ContraPoint.
I think that bringing up last week?
I might have.
Yeah, she's great.
She's a great trans woman who has this very interesting YouTube account.
I like to have her on my show.
I think I should probably be on her show.
But whatever.
we can um but she's very creative trans person right yeah and uh very funny she did an episode on traps
now apparently traps in the trans community are transsexual women who were too good well that's that's
a value judgment right i shouldn't be doing that they're too attractive uh and and the men are
attracted to them but they don't want to be attracted to them so therefore they're trapping them
look the reality is
they're trans women who give like
homophobic straight men a crisis
reality is there's a mid-peratured out there
which I might believe in I was 12 as well
you know that like trans women go out there
and try to trick straight men into fucking them
reality you know what you're doing
I enjoy trans women
I'm outspoken to that I think
I like them with dix or with that whatever
I mean I don't like them exclusively or in a fetish way
I mean it is a fetish maybe it is a fetish
I don't know I'm not trying to
projected onto them though
but I'm just saying like you like
them and then you get it in your head
oh there's a trans woman and then you hurt them
and that's terrible
um
thoughts lucy
maybe don't say
you know you know when you're attracted
to them and it scares you so you hurt them
it makes it sound like you're talking about
something you have intimate experience
this happens a lot
no you're a good boy
I'm a good boy but it's how you like what you like
I like and I don't like hurting people
I'm going to get a sip of tea.
I don't like hurting people.
I just have to do it.
I don't do any.
I'm a nice boy.
By the way,
caveat,
before we delve into this trans issue,
I have a failing voice at the moment.
It was much worse before.
It cracked on another podcast,
and then I got infected,
and I've been sick,
and Lucy's been nurturing me.
Yeah.
You sound good.
You sound gravelly.
Thank you.
It's a little gravely.
And I feel like we might have to cut this short at some point.
I don't know if my voice gives out.
So just caveat to that.
But back to this trans thing.
I've never heard a trans person.
I've never heard anyone, really.
And I don't know.
I think, but the reality is brass tacks.
Like, don't try to be like, oh, I'm not gay.
Because it's not gay.
But, like, people are so homophobic and wrapped up in their macho shit.
Like, you're not mad.
Like, stop acting, like, hitting a woman who's, like, you know, because she has a cock.
You're a man now?
you hit the person there's like they're still like a fight back
very hard it was something of my
you know there's a contingent
there's an argument out there trans women are some
the tougher when people out there
because they have to fight a lot
I mean I've heard that said I don't know
if it's as true as it used to be I think
back in the day it used to be more like street violence
in New York and the trans the trans
sex workers would have to fight all the time
it might still be true I mean it's a it's a positive
it's meant as a positive
I don't know if it's positive.
I'm just saying if you're a man and you're hitting someone who like looks like a woman
and it sounds like a woman, they're in a dress, it's got to feel like you're hitting a woman.
Like if you have any empathy.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's like if you feel like this is like this lady tricked you but now it's a boy,
but still like a, it's not like if it, look, this is all getting very problematic.
But if it's a quote unquote trap scenario, which you shouldn't even use that term,
we're too privileged people using that term
we should really debase ourselves with that
but the point is
is that we're correct with Lucy
debase myself
I don't know
you mean like relieve yourself
no I've been thinking of something else
I should disabuse myself
of that term
I should too
yeah I don't really use
I didn't even know they existed until a couple weeks ago
so it won't be hard for me
you I don't know
but the point is
just stop hurting trans people
And I feel like most people don't have to say it in their podcast
And maybe I don't but I feel like I do
Because I'm not sure who listens to this thing
And I think we're on to some kind of progressive
Yet gruff segment of the population
That I can market and commodify
And that's what I'm trying to do, Lucy
Is I'm trying to get these people who kind of think
Slightly like me
And I'm trying to put them into a financial box
So I can exploit
I mean I feel like that sounds like what the world is
That's what you should be doing
Like the whole world is a pyramid scheme now
And so I have to carve out the people
In my downchain
If you're if you're able to Amway or direct marketing
My listeners are my downchain
They have similar ideas
But I just got to them first
And I'm carving them out
And I'm going to then to sell advertising
For like I don't know what
A series of pins maybe
Maybe I could advertise for a pin company
With slogans like
Go suck my mother's cock
Or something
I feel like something
a listener of my show would like
Suck my mother's cock
This is a safe space
Yeah
Yes thank you
That's the synergy we're looking for
Yeah so it's kind of like
Advertising, exploiting
But also
enlightening
People
Yeah
Making people realize their shit
But also
They're privileged
I'm just
You know
Well I feel like that's the motive
I feel like that is
so much of entertainment
now, though.
You're shit, but also privilege.
Don't complain.
Which is, but here's the thing.
Oh, God.
Like, we're going to go see Captain Marvel, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the MCU.
Kind.
Like, enough.
I keep bringing this up, but you know me.
I'm not the MCU, boy.
I'm not the guy going like,
but I have watched, you know,
the Avengers Infinity's, Infinity Wars a bunch of times.
this Brie Larson's terrible.
She couldn't be worse.
But she's coming out, this Brie Larson character,
she was in a movie, you saw a room, right?
She was in a room, yeah.
She kidnapped a child in the movie?
Yeah, her and her baby get kidnapped.
Oh, she was kidnapped.
Yeah.
And her baby grows up in a little room.
But not her.
It sounds cuter than it is.
It's actually really terrifying.
It sounds adorable.
But apparently, and she was also in the Scott Pilgrim film.
uh with the michael sarah guy and um look she came out and she was all like down fucking
like i hate like white men i don't care where white men think about wrinkle and time
because it wasn't made for you and at first is like i guess but no like a movie's bad or not
i've discussed in the previous episodes what she said about critics and shit i'm just saying
she's doing it in a way where it's like i'm trying to be a cunt and i'm trying to be a loudmouth idiot
talking on my ass
just like you're a friend
to AOC
which we can get through
later.
I'm not trying to
you have you
endorse my
anti-leftist rhetoric
but my point
is
I'm just getting
I can't get on board
this is my point
because I hate
the PC culture
right?
I hate the SDW culture
I hate all these
shooting
and cram things
down your throat
but I hate the guys
even more at the end
sure
like these guys
who go on YouTube
and like
with the neck beards as you pointed out
when I show you's my favorite
anti-Captain Marvel guy
I forget his name I was I would give him a plug
but like the gleeful
shit eating style of like these
I'm not a sexist
I don't hate women like this Jordan
Peterson like I'm gonna dance around the issue
because I think of but at least Peterson
is a skilled rhetorical guy
not not impervious but I'm saying these guys
are just morons
well and I'm saying this is someone like
The Captain Marvel trailer didn't bother me, like, initially.
Like, I'm used to kind of...
I like kind of indie ladies.
Sure.
So I was like, oh, this is kind of like a mumblecore superhero movie, maybe.
Like, really Gerwig.
Yeah, exactly.
Like a Noah Bombach got an MCU film.
I feel like that's the most charitable interpretation of the trailer.
Okay.
But then she says something like that, and it's just like...
Just on a pragmatic level that I often can't help but think on.
Like, it's just like, that's just, it's just terrible for everyone involved.
Right.
It's bad for, like, female-led superhero movies.
It's just a bad way of handling it.
But, yeah, at the same time, I definitely hate the neck beers more.
And also, I kind of feel like if you are a guy who, like, superhero movies mean a lot to you,
and you kind of feel like they're being ruined by SJW stuff, you might be right.
But you should also consider that feminism probably has, like, 10 more years left.
so like it's going to be gone soon
there's going to be a huge backlash
which I'm not looking forward to
but you might
you think that
you think that this whole wave
of like progress of society
is making towards equality
across the board is going to
oh I think it's going to turn so hard
really yeah
what's going to I don't want it to
no but back because right now
we have Trump right yeah
I've happened for a couple years
it's not going to change overnight
but what's going to change the culture
Like, are the studios going to finally realize you're making less money?
Oh, I think it's much worse than, like, studios, not making movies.
Like, I think that, I'm thinking more, like, natural disaster level,
reversal of women's rights.
Like, I feel like once, like, global warming really heats up and, like, people start
experiencing a lot of, like, scarcity and, like, you know, wreckage and stuff.
Like, I just think they're going to be, like, all right, back in there.
Get back in there.
So basically, your bonus operandi, your thesis.
I don't put words in your mouth
but you're basically saying that
you support feminism
but when the shit really hits the fan
women just need to shut the fuck up
no but I do think that's
what people tend to go towards like I think
if you look at like just human history
whenever like the shit hits the fan
in a very serious way it's like
we're done listening to women
first and foremost
they are grading sometimes
I mean they are kind of
they have a nasalier voice
I think your voice is very sweet
I fall asleep when you're talking all the time
in a nice way in a way of you're gentle
I've been told I have a warm
kind of chocolatey voice
You have a dove bar voice
It's just like you know wraps me up
And it's cookie center
And I fucking just
I pat your breast and you pat my head
And it's just it's a lover's soup we have
Yeah
That being said
Women can be annoying
I'm just being on
I don't think I support women
It's so funny
say that because I was just thinking about
this. I was just thinking about whenever I
see like a debate about feminism
where you know there's a bunch of
male like Jordan Peterson types
female you know feminists
the way I interpret the debate
is always like okay who's more annoying
men or women
and it's like
it seems like they always choose
the most annoying men and the most
annoying women to represent both sides
yeah here's the thing
I mean part of it is that
men get annoyed because women don't necessarily follow the same logical rigor that men do, right?
Like, men are kind of, I mean that.
Look, you can say it.
I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, sure.
You agree with this?
No.
You don't agree that women are more willing to get emotional in the debate.
But complete the thought.
Like, I'm willing to hear it out.
No, I'm just saying that, like, you know, women are more, like, there's often an argument in, I don't know, SJW or whatever, but like, look, here's the thing.
you hate women you think they're grading hear them out because there's off you might not agree
with everything they say but you're probably going to learn a few things and I'm saying I listen to
women Lucy I listen to what they say and they go you know men they they try to say we shouldn't
get emotional but like you know it's more crazy to be having this detached logical uh approach
towards these like you know things that affect people's lives like you know life or death
situations or like you know or ruining their life you know abortion or women's rights
tissue it is and there's a certain like it may not be the most logical argument but there's a certain
kind of like oh yeah like maybe this is crazy maybe we should look into this more so I feel like women
those women are embracing the idea they're not as logical they're not as like well x plus y plus z has to do
this here here's a thing yeah I can accept on a certain level like I could definitely accept
just on principle that there's differences between the sexes like on a biological level right and that
like there it might even go towards what they're saying it goes towards it like men are
inherently just going to be more interested in math and et cetera et cetera that could all be true
but you've got to admit that you've pulled some bullshit in the past like you've pulled
some shit like especially the scientific community i don't know how you can especially especially
have like have used their authority in the past to say like ridiculous things about women
I don't know how, like, women are trying to argue that, like, they were subjugated in the past.
And it's just like, it's just the way it was.
No one was subjugating you.
I'm kidding.
This is like what Peterson will do.
Peterson will, like, make this fucking, like, no, no, look, that's just the way it was.
But it wasn't like men were challenged.
Yes, it was.
Can I give an example?
If you have to.
Like, because it's a particularly amazing example.
Okay.
And it's like, it wasn't that uncommon even.
Like, there was at one point, like in the 1920s or something, in Britain, there was an ordinance that women couldn't ride bicycles.
Does it get orgasms?
That would be great if they just came out and said it.
If pusses get too wet.
They're going to have it too good.
They're going to expect more.
No, they created this ordinance that women couldn't ride bicycles because the fear was that women's bodies were arranged in such a way that their uterus is.
would fall out.
But this was like something of the plumbers set, right?
Not like a doctor.
It was something like lawmakers and scientists were saying.
Scientists?
Like people who have at least a passing understanding of anatomy.
Yes.
Because people have been cunning.
People act.
This is what you're about?
It started as like these are doctors.
What do you resist?
This is like in like the early 1900s.
Okay.
So like the 20th century.
Yeah.
But people,
because people have this idea that like we know what happened inside of a body before like
1950.
but in reality like people have been cutting up a body since ancient Egypt
they knew what the heart and they might not know what everything done exactly did
but like we knew shit for sure yeah they knew the uterus wasn't just connected by like
what would that have to be what would have to have like is there a piece of velcro
that would get knocked loose it's usually just like taped up in there with scotch tape
and if even a little thing comes loose at all it's just blood and and guts just umbers glue and
your dumb uterus
suspended in like
in a fucking sponge
it's also like
I love how they don't even make
they didn't even make the jump
in any of the literature about this
that it's like
the fear that they would die
even from the uterus falling out
it's just like oops my uterus
fell out
but like also like
if that was the case
why would my like heart
like it might not fall out
like look
your heart can fall against
the inside of your herniated disc
as long as it doesn't fall
out of your body, it's fine.
Like, your ribcage will fall into your
balls, but it's still inside
you. I'm a scientist.
Like, who,
who, what? Like, the guy who invented
fucking the Super Bowl? Well, there was this one...
You know, a bouncy ball, your page went? There was this one
guy in particular, and I wish I remembered his name,
but, like, he was a really...
Garen. Herman Gering.
Herman Gereen. But he, like,
initiated a lot of the kind of, like,
pseudo-science that you hear about women, that they, like,
A lot of, like, the more pseudoscientific claims about why women can't do certain things.
Like, there are scientific claims about people's proclivities and stuff.
But then sometimes on, like, real, like, misogynist forums or something,
you'll hear, like, more pseudo-scientific claims about how, like, women can't do this
because, like, their period doesn't allow them to.
It's, like, that kind of connection.
They'll bleed all over the copy machine.
You can't let them in.
Yeah.
Like, this guy pioneered that.
Like that kind of logic.
And, like, he, like, released a bunch of studies.
They became super popular in the U.S.
And none of them were based on any scientific research.
Like, they were just, like, he just wrote these conclusions.
And his were, like, way more bizarre.
It was, like, their periods will, like, you know, drive them insane.
And they'll, yeah.
Look, there's a lack of women in the STEM field
because they spend their 20s way too busy
planning their extravagant weddings.
They have these very elaborate weddings they plan,
and therefore, the Higgs and Bokes and Particle,
they don't want anything to do with it.
So this female scientist,
this early female scientist,
decides this guy is such a piece of shit,
and he's, like, influencing so many people,
a super popular guy,
that she was like, I'm going to perform experiments
to, like, test his theory.
And, like, she, you know, planned out all these experiments,
like, you know, proved,
like repeated them over and over again like basically proved that he was wrong but it's like
it's so funny that like this what this any scientist man woman whatever had to do that just to
like combat some bullshit theory it is great being a man like people complain about but like you
really can just like i mean this is the extreme example but like i'll tell you from personal
experience you just like have a deeper voice than someone and you'd be more confident and like
they have to disprove you yeah like you're going to
welfare is like it's worse for black people it hurts them and you want to go they have to prove
why it does or doesn't so it's nice so this guy is just like yeah you know women if we let them
ride uh derogibles then they'll fuck orangutans because it's in their uterus is shaped like a
fucking orangutan cock and like no that makes sense but I could publish I if I lived in the 1920s
I could publish I could be a fucking esteemed scientist I can make this shit up all day like
Give me an example.
Give me a problem for women.
We're going to do this right here.
You know, women, the rape kit system isn't super reliable,
and sometimes people's rape kits get backlogged or destroyed,
and it's really hard to navigate that bureaucracy.
The problem is that a large proportion of rapes happening
because the woman fell in love with the rapist.
And so by the time the rape kit gets processed,
they actually ask for it back
because they fell in love
with the guy who raped her.
So really,
you should really do more research
because these women actually don't want
these kids processed.
I've talked to them.
That sounds like a real meat cute.
You know what?
Give me the rape kit back.
I'm here to get my rape kit back.
Everyone's up to pluring.
Oh, you found someone.
The nurse is like
winking at her.
Good job.
And the guys dare with her.
And it's like, he knew.
He's like, sometimes he's like, like,
he's some old, like, older, like, sassy fat nurse.
He's like, sometimes he's got to show a woman what she wants.
Asking for it.
In theaters this June.
When a man loves a woman,
then the other time raping kits.
Oh, we got to make this trailer.
We should.
We should.
Please donate to the.
Patreon so Lucy and I can make
the trailer for the Rape Kid
Rape Kid the movie?
It's a called, it's waiting a long.
Rape
Rapes get
Uh,
what do you think?
What do you think? What should think be called?
The movie or the Scrape Kit?
Scrape Kit.
Uh,
I think he's calling it rape kit would be like, like, like, like the
notebook like the rape kit
the other books like the you could have called
seven the notebook there's notebooks in the movie
like there might be other
movies that have other you takes on
rape kits but we got we were the first
one that call it rape kit so we get the title
yeah yeah it's called
rape kit
and people might come in it's
some kind of documentary about the
polite the actual plight of rape
you know kids being thrown out
in many jurisdictions and how
they're not being processed because a budget
constraints that would probably not affect other things
but they apparently affect rape kits
we can find the money for anything except
for a rape kit but it won't be that
it won't be that documentary it'll be our
cute romantic comedy about
rape victims falling in love with
their rapists yeah
why are we not rich and then they'll be happy
honestly someone
needs to like sign us boat to her
fucking development deal because we can do this all day
rape kit the movie
blood rape the movie
um
rape me on Sunday
it's just a nice like
um
rape me in St. Louis
whatever rapes
yeah the movie calls
meet me in St. Louis right
there is yeah
with Julie Garland
I saw it in the film class once
we remake that
called Rape me in St. Louis
yeah
rape me in St. Louis
I'm not a fan of rape
this is satire
I got to
this is what this world's comes to
hashtag satire
yeah
this is what the world's come to
I can't go off
a tangent with my girlfriend about
rape movies. Everyone's going to
fucking, they're going to isolate this.
They're going to fucking nail me to the cross.
You've got to put the word satire
in parentheses after the title
of the podcast. Yes.
But what you were saying, you made a good point, and I think
you've actually pointed this out. You made me realize
something about myself during our...
I made it get a lot of about yourself.
We get some work done, you know what I mean?
Apparently, to make sex work,
You have to put a thing in the hole.
Yeah, she was just fucking jiggling on the clit.
And I'm like, no, no, no, still do that.
But I could also insert stuff.
Dicks, hands, whatever, naked chips.
But you pointed out to me during our time as lovers.
Yes, sweet lovers.
Sweet lovers.
You've pointed out to me that I can get into a mode.
I don't always do it.
But I can get into a mode when we're debating about something.
Yeah.
Where I'm very rigid.
Oh, sure.
And you actually have a, like, the word,
absolutely you pointed out comes up oh sure it's like you know yeah there's a phenomenon
and men are absolutely more to blame for rape than women and I'm like well you go why are you
saying absolutely it's not that it's a little different a little different it's a little less
justified when I when I get into that but like and I think I do it maybe partially because
of what you were saying before because of the whole like the whole like a strong voice thing
growing up with brothers you got to like you got to make your your vocabulary a little bit bigger
to you know more aggressive we both used to be fans about it and i and used to listen to you know
petrease and quentin and all the guys on there and yeah just just like you learn a lot and then
he goes to ron benning and just like a style of just like i shut your mouth yeah quiet
fucking idiot you know shop stupid and just that kind of like just condescending like just a certain
cadence your voice and
it makes you right it really does make you right
so much and for so many people
I mean look like is No Machomsky
gonna beat me in the bait maybe like
look at you dumb fucking glasses
you fucking probably fucking kids in the ass
shut your mouth
like what's it gonna say to that
probably something smart but like no one's gonna care
is that what you mean
yeah compliment of me
I appreciate that
yeah
this is uh now
so we're gonna see Captain
Marvel is the point.
I get it. I get
people who hate feminists, but
like also the guy, it's
just, but I really, look,
if you see me change this position
of any time soon, it's because
I'm realizing that no one
I got, if you don't let me
commodify you as people,
the people who see the nuance like I do, I'm
going to start just becoming
like you always said I'd be a great
Yeah, I have like broached
this with you that you, if you
just went to the alt right right you would make so much fucking money i mean i brooch this with
tim would make the case i mean you might remember the apagas episode where the there's no fat
nazis they don't want fat guys in the in the all right but i feel like i could be the first fat
alt writer yeah i feel like tim was too quick on the trigger there i mean uh god sad or whatever
is kind of fat but he's a isn't he a communist no he's like a or maybe he's more of an mra than
Oh, I can, look, maybe that's the move.
MRA would be the move.
I could be an MRA, I could be a pickup artist.
Like, look, I should use you as my pickup artist prop.
Look, I fuck her.
Come on, listen to me.
Well, you have to prove that you fuck a lot of different women,
so it would just be me in different wigs.
I feel like this.
I feel like, because, look, here's a problem with all these YouTube idiots
and these fucking podcast idiots,
you keep trying to plow the grounds or even plowed.
Like, stop trying to, like, I like that guy pitch him.
Ryan George has the pitch meeting show on YouTube.
They're funny.
They're popcorn funny.
He's talking to himself.
It's great.
Me and Lucy likes it.
I was Googling a YouTube being one yesterday.
I realized there's people who make their own pitch meeting shows.
These idiot YouTubers are just whipping them off.
Lots of them in foreign countries.
But they're in their shit.
Oh, yeah.
What assholes?
They got like 200 views.
But my point is like what kind of rotten scumbag
have no character motherfuckers do you have to be?
So my point is.
I'm not going to make, I'm not going to be the MRA talking about, hey, I fuck a lot of women.
I'm going to be the MRA is why I'm going to make money.
Maybe not the most money, but a good amount of money.
Because I'm going to be the MRA, goes, hey, I don't fucking a lot of women.
But I got this, this one's pretty hot and I got her.
It's a targeted MRA.
Like, you focus all your attention on one woman and you scammer.
I feel like that's a huge corner of the MRA market that has not been exploited yet,
or like the MRAs who really kind of secretly won intimacy.
They all want intimacy
The actual pickup bars, I think, are liars or whatever
But I don't know what their actual story is
But the reality is the people going that route
Because I'll be ashamed to admit
When I was like 22
I bought some books that were basically MRA book
I didn't know if they were of audible I think
I actually deleted them recently from audible
Because I couldn't stand seeing him in my library
It was like how to like you know
Convinced women
I don't know
And it was just very sleazy like
MRAs weren't even a thing back then
this was like back when I was like you know
2005 maybe or four
and uh
it really was because like
you're good talking to women and like you're lonely
and like oh these guys like if I can learn
these tactics I wouldn't be a scumbag about it
if I just learn how to see these guys
all just want to know like I yeah and just
wait till you're 35
that's the move
and you can date other people in the meantime
but like you wait until like you know
women think you're like you know
more mature than you are or whatever you just wait be be sad in your 20s who gives this shit go
fucking go fucking working on morgue like I did in a potato bread warehouse you have time to fuck
puss you know I did I got I I pulled before before we um our souls connected right
merge with each other sure um did you ever find that like women were turned on by the fact
that you worked at a morgue um
think?
Were they turned on
by the fact that they work
as a more? Not much.
It was interesting
maybe. They were interested by it, but
there weren't like, does not look.
I feel like if you played it up
a little bit, like, because
you tend to go right for like the
grisly details. Right.
And you're very stoic about them.
Yeah. Like, hey, I've held a man's
brains in my hands before. And
I say to lose you a lot of times when we're fucking
No, here's the thing
I don't know if I ever brought up at a bar
Flirting with women much
But I would bring it up on Tinder a lot
And I feel like they would be curious
And I would give them details
And then they would stop talking to me
I would get ghosted on Tinder
You have more of like a direct way of talking about
Like I feel like there are some guys who would be like
Yeah, there's a lot of darkness in there
Like it's a lot of tragedy
Sure
And you're just like
Yeah I was holding his guts
And then shit started pouring out
And then I say, you, let me get in your guts.
That's my, this is my pillow to gore loosey.
I say, let me get in your guts.
That should be the name of the episode.
Let me get in your guts.
Yes.
But, no, it wasn't, like, women seem, they're more turned on by the potato bread warehouse, I think,
where the fact that I filed my teeth down.
I told you that story, right?
No.
You never heard that story?
I don't think so.
I mean, it's part of the bit I do with the rugby.
I was working at a potato bread warehouse
People might have heard me say this before
I don't remember
I was working at a graveyard shift
The midnight to eight shift
And my friend
You know my friend
He was
He got me the job in the first place
He drove a potato bread
You know truck route
Like delivering the stores
So one day around like 7 a.m. or whatever
8 a.m.
I go after work, meet up with him
And like you know we sometimes like
finish up the route with him
And then we get a beer
sandwich or whatever
Then that night, I, you know, at 8 p.m. or whatever, I'd eat in a bean burrito from Taco Bell, which is soft, right?
The soft food, it's not like one of these big, thick burritos that you get from a fucking Mexican restaurant that puts, like, seashells in there, or whatever the fuck they do.
I'm not disparaging Mexicans, I'm just saying it, but there was nothing crunchy eating a burrito.
And I break my tooth off because I had a rotten tooth, I guess.
It wasn't hurting or anything.
It just crumbled, kind of, and left half of like a jagged pointy tooth.
so I'm fucking
it's like I'm working this whole
potato bread wear out
which is strenuous work
and it wasn't that good at it yet
so I'm just sweating
I'm moving around
lifting pallets of bread
on the fucking pallet movers
and whatever
it's hard
people go out of bread
it's gonna be
yeah yeah
you're moving 18 stack
high stacks of these bread trays
it weighs a lot
and then four of those
go onto a pallet
don't fucking talk
oh it's soft bread
yeah and you suck up anything
it gets heavy
you couldn't put
Claire Rose guys couldn't put
that much beer onto a pallet.
You know, those guys are pretty ripped, the beer guys.
But still, they wouldn't be moving as much bread, like beer
as we moved bread as they give it.
You move as much as you can at any given time.
Whatever.
Point is, I had this jagged fucking tooth sticking
into the side of my tongue all night.
And by, like, 5 a, I guess 4 a.m.,
when the drivers started coming to pick up their loads,
I realized I couldn't even talk.
I was so, like, my tongue was all bleeding,
and I couldn't fucking, so it was bad, hurt.
I was like,
and so whatever.
So it was a rough morning
and I, you know,
leave, I go and meet with my friend.
And I realize this at a certain point
like, I got to do something about this.
And so we're in the supermarket.
I got to fucking deal with this.
So I stop in the aisle,
and I pay for it.
You know, I buy a metal nail file.
You know, like you file a nail file.
Not that one, like the cardboard,
whatever ones, like the metal ones.
Yeah.
Okay, okay. Is that how you feel about?
Yeah.
Okay. Because as a kid, I always some people used them in the other ones, the sandpaper ones.
This is metal.
So I grab that.
And if I can go to his bread truck, there's got a big side mirror, you know, the rectangular mirror.
And I look in the mirror and they fucking use this file.
I file the point of my tooth down.
Yeah.
And that turns when it on.
No.
No.
No.
Uh.
That is kind of honestly, like any kind of abandon.
who can do something hard to his own body?
Yeah.
Like it's kind of,
that is kind of a turn.
Well, I have that bit about,
like, it's an old bit I've had for a while and it does well enough about being,
I'm trying to do bits on a podcast,
but I feel like it doesn't,
I feel like people think it's funny,
but I feel like I got rewriting.
I don't know if they get,
that's exactly my point.
Like,
yeah.
I don't,
they get that's what it's about.
It's about, like,
hey, I do all this hard,
like, you want a rugged guy.
I do all this hard shit to myself.
Like,
but you're fucking,
but you want some guy where's,
like a fucking lumber, whatever, jacksuit, what the fuck he does.
Yeah, you want a guy who's like, because I imagine you, and it's like, I could be
wrong, you never know unless you're in the situation, but, like, I imagine you as the kind
of guy who, like, you know, if you were in a violent situation.
Right, and I bite the guy's cheek.
Yeah, and a guy, like, stabbed you in the stomach with a sword.
Like, you just start biting.
A sword? Yeah.
You have a sword on them in, like, an alley?
I have Game of Thrones on the brain.
Okay, so I was like, if you were in a sword, it's like, you'd be the guy who's like
you get stabbed the sword and you just keep.
coming at you
I hate
I fucking hate swords
I start biting his neck
like it hurts
but you can take
it ah
and I'm coughing
blood in the guy
it's just like
I have a disease
I'm biting them
yeah
no like that
that is the thing
and like women
and I'm not trying
to tell women
what to be attracted to
it's not my place
to tell a woman
how to get wet
but I'm saying
you should be
attracted to me
when I file down
my rotten tooth
right
but it's like
if you're following
if you're not trying to be Jordan Peterson here
but if you follow the logic
of your pussy and you go
why would I want a guy who was rugged
this is why? Because if we get this scenario
you know he'll fucking
he'll use my, he'll fix my body
with like McGiver
but McGiver was sexy
that's a problem. Like the people who know
this shit aren't sexy like McGiver
it look like me or may not
well me but like you know
variants of me with different kinds
of weird jaws and claws
I'm just saying
I know shit
if you if you're some great looking guy
who just pulls trim and gets laid
you're not going to be reading about
like some weird SES survival guide
which honestly I didn't finish
but you know
yeah whenever you see like
because you know the mythological
interpretation of it is like
werewolves and vampires and stuff
but like whenever you see like a guy
and like women are very turned on by
those things statistically
right and like
but whenever you see like a male
vampire and a movie he's always
He's like this kind of like metrosexual like waif, yeah, waif.
He's like, God damn it, I'm a vampire.
Yeah.
It's like Nosferoktu.
When you watch the original Nosferoktu, he's disgusting.
Yeah, he's hot.
Oh, you think he's sexy?
No.
He's a real man.
Yeah.
Real vampire.
Well, he has a very, like, I mean, just his teeth and his fucking, I remember, I got,
my dad, uh, punished me once because I asked if I could stay home to watch
Nosferoktu because he was on science fiction channel,
like one o'clock in a year.
afternoon.
And it was such a weird interaction
because he didn't want to jump the gun.
But he said to me like, are you serious?
I'm like, yes.
You're punished.
And I was like, what?
He's like, it was such a stupid thing to ask.
I almost respect it.
This doesn't do with the previous conversation,
but it's bringing up memories.
Yeah.
He was just like, are you serious?
You give me the out.
Are you actually asking me this?
I'm like, yes, I want to stay home from school
to watch a horror film.
And I'm like that into like Dracula.
or anything.
Like,
it's just like,
oh,
I heard this movie.
I want to watch it,
but it's only on like,
you know,
at one clock.
It's pre-tevo,
right?
You millennial fucks.
But like,
he asked me,
are you serious?
I said,
yes,
and he goes,
you're grounded.
I remember one of the,
the first movie
that ever made me feel
a little bit like,
turned on as a kid.
Right.
It was this old movie
as a Spencer,
like it was Spencer Tracy.
Ooh,
yeah.
In Dr.
Jekyll and Mr.
Hyde.
Oh.
And it's a really like,
it's a pretty,
It's not super gory or anything,
but it's a pretty, like, disturbing, violent interpretation of it.
Like, you see him, like, strangling a woman.
And there's a scene in the movie where it was very confusing sexually
because, like, there's a scene where he is, Mr. Hyde is, like, torturing this, like,
psychologically torturing this, like, dancer girl who fell in love with him when he was Dr. Jekyll.
And so he comes over, you know, to her place that she's playing piano.
and he walks through the door
and she's all scared and stuff
and he's like, no, play for me.
Play for me.
And she starts playing the piano
and he takes, there's a cake next to her
and he takes a handful of cake
and smushes it in her face.
What?
And he's like, sing for me
and he's smushing the cake in her face.
This is like a fetish film you're watching.
And it's like, it made me really wet.
Do you, do you, I mean, have you ever pursued
just cake?
I've never pursued the
Do you want to go get a cake
You want to go get a cake on the way home?
I might
I can mash it into your face
and say play for me
play for me
I can play on a little
electronic drum kit
Yes
You can be like
You're doing a little
like my
Yinky doodle and I'm just going
Fly for me
I'm shoving the hostess
fruit cake in your face
and you're just getting
fucking gallons of wet
Fucking gallons of wet
fucking great
no there's something about
I'm not even
into like food even but it's just the domination of like smushing cake you know that says hot
yeah yeah uh is anyone ever is nothing that to blow past your um just very creepy fetish
but isn't dr jekyll a much creepier mr hyde's the bad guy mr hyde's the bad guy but dr jekyll's a
much creepier name oh yeah is that part of the story yeah i don't know where they came up well
Maybe it's supposed to be like Jekyll, like jovial or something.
That's not what Jekyll means.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, shouldn't it be like Dr. Hyde and Mr. Jekyll?
Makes much more sense.
I know this is full as well.
Hyde does kind of sound like a villainous name.
Yeah, we're moving on from that.
This show is a fast-paced show, Lucy, and you're doing great.
But when I started going, ah, we're moving on.
That's me gearing up for fucking.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, there was a transition.
That was me.
digging into the well of my
like,
ah,
people think it's all random.
But it's good to have you here
because it just,
it upsets those noises.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll be more attentive to the...
Yeah, you've got to follow the new ones.
My point is, I was trying to broach the thing.
We had a conversation that we started recently
and I abruptly stopped that we should do this here.
It's why you're like,
it's kind of the reason I brought you on
not like I wouldn't have you
otherwise but I was like we should
this should be a thing
because I
look we were in bed
and we were talking
we were just making cutie talk
and be like I love you and I love you
and you snuggle
and you cut your cull bear
just saying cutey things
you know I'm a cute guy
she's a cute girl
fuck you if you don't like it
now
and we're being kind of flirty
and you're saying I love you
forever bullshit
And I said, what would you do if I just, like, shit to bed right now?
And I feel like, and you start, look, let's, it was an interesting pass.
I want to just, let's just do it here.
Okay.
What would you do, Lucy, my sweet love?
Oh, I love you so much.
Cutie pie.
Sweet bear.
What would you do if I just shit to bed right now?
I would, and this is what I said the last time.
Well, it's acted as if we're there.
I know.
I think that it's not like I wouldn't be turned off or disgusted by it, right?
Like, I'd be grossed out by it.
Yeah.
But that, that disgust would be mixed with genuine concern.
Like, I'd be concerned about you.
Why are you being concerned?
No, because I'm not sick.
Is that me having the flu?
I can't imagine that you wouldn't be sick.
Like, I don't know.
I'm not sick.
Listen to me.
I'm saying to you, this is a scenario, what would happen if I, I'm not, like, look,
well, I've had the situation in my old bed, which I feel, I don't have you ever told you this
because we used that bed and I had to flip it, but now I moved out of that place.
We lived together now.
But I got sick back in 2016.
We had gone to dinner with the great Russ Baker, me and Tim, the day after Thanksgiving,
who worked at our family secrets book.
And I don't, I got food poisoning at that dinner.
and I went home
and I
shit
like I was a situation
where I woke up
in the middle of the night
and I felt better
you know
you're really food boys
you're dizzy
you're sweating
you're throwing up
you're shitting
I felt bad
at this moment
like oh wow
I feel a little better
I looked down
and I had shit
like a light brown
porridge into the bed
it was terrible
oh baby
yeah it was sick
I never wanted to tell you
because you know
we were snuggling
I felt bad bringing it up but now we're gone it's over so no more worries
I flipped it we weren't laying in a fucking shit like patch don't worry but uh there was shit
patch was there underneath underneath the mattress there was a patch of shit um how far do you
does your well of secrets go I mean this is I was trying to protect you so that was a situation
If that happened
Yeah, I'm not
I don't expect you to leave me
Yeah
I wouldn't
I would take care of you
Thank you
And you would wipe me
Like a baby
Yeah
Yeah that'd be great
I mean like
I wipe people with the morg
So I would wipe you
I would wipe you no problem
I'd look at you
I go sticky baby
You're stinky baby
I shit myself mommy
Oh
You might
Eat my shit mommy
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
So your finger in my ass
This is hot
No
So that's, you know, but, like, I'm talking about a scenario where I just look at you, and I just didn't, like, I had this shit, and I just didn't feel like watching TV.
I didn't feel like going to the bathroom.
That's the way to shit the bed.
Would you break up with me?
Okay, let's execute this.
Yeah.
Start to finish.
Hey, uh, honey, did you just shit?
Yeah.
Did you just shed in your pants?
Yeah, yeah, I shit, yeah, you smell it?
Yeah.
Are you okay?
Yeah.
No.
I just have the shit.
Oh, I mean, are you feeling, you know, are you under the weather or something?
No, I just, I had the shit.
Why?
Why?
I ate food, I guess, 12 hours ago.
Where long it takes the shit, you know?
Why wouldn't you just go to the bathroom?
I just didn't feel like.
I guess kind of want to keep watching this show.
Love his Game with Thrones.
You didn't, honey, are you okay?
You didn't feel like it?
Yeah, I mean, you're not enjoying the episode?
How often do you...
Are you enjoying the episode of Game of Thrones?
I love it.
Right, I didn't want to, like, make a hassle for you, and I didn't want to get up.
It's artistic, it's action-packed.
Yeah.
But why, how, how, do you do this a lot?
No, no, it's not a common thing, you know.
I mean...
I just didn't feel...
I was, like, thinking about going to the bathroom,
and I was thinking about like
I just go and you sit there and
shit and then wipe your ass
I was like I'm just enjoying myself
and a nice Saturday night
like fuck that I just
should the bed
so you just wanted to save time
bye
why didn't feel like
yeah I didn't feel like
you know spending time in the bathroom
I love you I want to spend time with you
I love you too
but like you're not going to do this again right
like this isn't going to happen again
well you're acting as if like this is something I do all the time
it's not I mean I've never done this before in front of you so why you why are you
like I'm not gonna like make a promise to you like I'll never do like why don't
wait this is coming from is it the kind of thing where you just waited too long and
it happened or no I felt it coming on I'm like oh if I don't you know it's just
gonna keep getting worse and worse my little shit now okay honey yeah
I love you.
I love you too, baby.
You can't do this again.
You're acting like this is something I do.
All right.
I've done this.
And I could have a legitimate reason.
And if it happened again, like, I mean, it wouldn't be just like, you know, tomorrow.
Yeah, but I mean, never.
I don't know why you're making it out like.
I'm so kind of like it's a pathology I have.
But if it's not a pathology, then you can promise.
first of all, you have to clean yourself up
because you're going to get sick.
Well, how many, what's sick?
We're talking about it.
I might get a rash.
I might get sick.
Getting a rash is getting sick.
That's a rash.
It's a topical thing.
I don't want you to get skin infections.
I'm not going to leave it for a day.
I'll fucking clean it an hour or two.
Here's a thing.
Yeah.
When you look at it from the perspective of a Kantian principle,
if everybody did what you just did all the time,
then we'd be swimming.
in our own feces and we'd get a plague again.
Sure, but no one does.
Like,
if this was like medieval Europe,
I wouldn't be doing this. I'd go out to my hole
and shit there. But like,
part of the benefit of living in a modern society
is that, yeah, not all
the time. I'm not saying all the time.
But, you know, if you're like in a situation,
like sometimes, you know,
I'm just to take the garbage out. And I say,
I don't feel like it. And like, it'll let
pile up and I'll take it out, all of it out
on Thursday instead of Tuesday.
They pick it up multiple times a week, right?
So, oh, the garbage is going to be sitting out there
in your front gate,
you know, behind the gate for too long.
It's going to be overflowing.
Sure.
Or even, like, inside, I shoot the garbage out.
Oh, it's going to stink up their house.
It might stink up the living room a little bit,
but I'm just having a comfortable time with my baby.
In the same principle, yeah, I'm like,
I could shit into a toilet.
I could just go and, like, put my shit into water.
But, like, I don't feel like it.
And, like, I live my life in the,
in the organized fashion.
So if I occasionally want to shit in the bed,
it's a luxury of our times.
Okay.
So,
I'm,
can we,
let me just set certain baselines.
Okay.
Can we agree on certain things?
Sure.
One,
can we agree that human shit smells bad?
It's not the best smell.
Yeah,
it smells.
Wait, right, not that it's not the best smell.
It smells.
particularly bad.
Out of all the things.
I've smelled bad things.
You know, a fucking cancerous uterus smells worse than shit.
But I grant you, you know, some people think shit smells bad, sure.
Don't be a martyr about this.
You know for the average human being that it smells exceptionally bad.
I'll let you have this one.
Okay.
So it smells bad.
Sure.
We've established that.
Okay.
Sure.
Human shit in enough volume and frequency can create.
unsanitary conditions.
I'm not like shitting into a large, like, you know,
tub over and over until I fill it up.
This is a one-time, you know, occasional thing.
You're sitting in your own shit right now.
For now.
For the time being, I am sitting in the shit, yes.
Okay.
Close contact with human shit for too long
can lead to, like you said, rashes?
Sure.
It can lead to medical issues.
If not the worst medical issues,
than, like, significant medical issues.
I suppose.
So, and the modern convenience of the toilet
makes it, like, nearly impossible to, like, excuse not use it.
Can I interrupt you and say something?
Yeah.
You really seem to be sucking the joy out of me
taking the shit in the bed,
which was supposed to increase my pleasure,
increase my enjoyability.
Like, you spend all this time arguing with me
about, like, just constant.
in principles and like I did this so we wouldn't have to like interrupt the show of game
you know like and now you're just kind of like yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's like what you do
this again and like I'm not going to like have some philosophical argument where I go I'm definitely
never going to do this again but like stop acting like it's something I do all the time
honey I'm doing this because I want to preserve our relationship I love you and I don't know why
you're being just difficult difficult girlfriend
love you too and you know
I'm just trying to make sure you must have a so you
really you're acting like I'm such a scumbag
I'm just some fucking like
wretch who like comes home
and like I take my pants off and the shit
just flowing down my leg and you always
have to like follow me of a rag
they walk around the apartment
where like a fucking like just a t-shirt
with no fucking underwear and just shit
in a little over the place and you follow me
with a fucking like ice cream bowl
and you're catching my shit
and it's just something to deal with all the time
and I'm a burden to you.
No, this happens occasionally at best, all right?
One time so far, and you're acting like I'm to some fucking homeless psychopath.
This is gaslighting.
You're turning on me something that was the result of your actions,
and you're trying to make it seem like I'm, like, putting upon you some kind of, like, extreme regulation.
But really, it's just a normal human convention, isn't it?
It's just a normal, normal human convention like a, like what?
Like putting a, like putting a napkin on your lap, like, you know, wearing pants outside.
It's just something to do.
Do you want me to put a napkin on my lap when I shit in the bed?
But you don't want to see it, like you love to see my dick, but not when I'm shitting.
What is this?
If you put a napkin on your lap, maybe.
I'm not asking you to suck me.
me off while I'm shit in the bed.
That would be wrong.
That'd be sexist.
I shouldn't have said it that crudely.
But, you know, I love you.
I respect you as a woman.
But, you know, I'm not asking
for weird shit sex stuff.
I just want you not to treat me like an animal.
But if I occasionally, you know,
theoretically more than once,
uh, shit my bed.
But so far only, only once.
It's animalistic behavior.
Yeah, but so is, you know,
so is grunting after you eat a nice,
sandwich. I do that.
You do?
I go,
oh,
oh, yeah.
I grunt.
I have a nice chicken palm sandwich,
hero.
I fucking go,
oh,
grab my belly.
That's,
that's animalistic.
And when we fuck,
it's animalistic,
you know,
I'm just sticking it in,
you're going,
yeah.
And I'm just,
ugh.
Like,
what,
what are we,
are we doing
fucking pirouettes?
Are we doing pirouettes?
No,
are we,
are we doing pirouettes?
It's a,
it's a,
animalistic behavior. Those are
animalistic behaviors that only
result in mutual pleasure.
Right. This is an animalistic behavior
that results in discord.
I don't know why, because I
did this primarily to
prolong the mutual pleasure
of us watching Game of Drones.
And you're acting like I didn't
do is for us. But it instantly
interrupted our pleasure. Well, you
interrupted our pleasure, let's be honest.
Look, if nothing else,
have to admit that. You didn't, you could argue
the legitimacy if you're not doing it, but you did. You interrupted our pleasure
to have this conversation with me. You interrupted my pleasure. How?
By exposing me
to the smells and aromas of your shit. Because you
have a very bourgeois sense of
smell and delicacy, which I get, you've been brought up a certain way.
You had the reactions. I didn't, I didn't
assume you'd be that delicate and that
you know upper crust and like and like you know upstarty about like oh
pretending to be a rich girl oh i've never smelled shit before
baby i love you i love you too you're the love of my life
we're going to spend a lot of our lives together i wouldn't talk to you about this if you
weren't the love of my life of course yeah it's a it is this is a sensitivity
that isn't just upper class bourgeois stuff it's a biological reaction
If you were a plumber, if you were a plumber, you'd be used to smelling shit.
So you want me to become a plumber?
It's a good job.
I don't know why you're saying it like that.
Like, it is a good job.
Look, you can make a lot of money being a poor.
You might be a good plumber.
I'm sure I could be a good plumber.
But you know, it doesn't, I respect plumbers.
But you're saying that's the length I have to go to to appreciate, to learn to live with your,
you're shitting yourself.
It's become a plumber?
Look, I'm saying the whole point of my.
this conversation is I'm not constantly shitting myself.
I'm not walking around making you catch my shit in a bowl.
If that was the case, I understand it.
I'm saying you're being such a prima donna about one time that I shit in a bed next to you.
I thought I knew you.
You won't even say that you won't do it again.
I'm saying I probably won't do it again very often, if ever.
Will you try not to do it again?
I really, here's the thing.
I don't see it happening anytime soon
but the fact that you're asking me to try
when I'm making it very like I'm being very recent
I've never done it before now
and so why you have to try to not do it again later
it probably won't come up
because it was intentional and if you intended to do something
one time you could intend to do it again
I feel like you were just trying to control
how I view the world
and you're trying to control
how I like I did something nice for you
and it's not nice enough
And that's how I feel.
Like, it's never good enough.
I'm telling you that it wasn't nice for me.
Are you going to leave me or not?
I just want an assurance.
I am not going to assure it.
I'm going to say it probably won't happen very often.
You're not even going to apologize for it.
I'm sorry that you have these, like, ultra-sensitive...
I'm breaking up with you.
All right.
See, so...
That's how far it would have to get.
All right.
You know, it could get that far.
That's how much I love you.
I feel pretty good about this then, because I gaslight you pretty hard there.
You did gaslight me.
I wouldn't let it go, I wouldn't let it go unnoted.
But like, if you realized it and then stop gaslighting me, that could be okay.
Gaslighting seems fun.
Oh, yeah.
Like, people don't talk about how bad it is.
For people who aren't necessarily familiar with gaslighting, very quickly summon up for people.
Gaslighting is a practice that happens in abusive relationships or whatever.
I don't know exactly.
It's when the men tricks the woman into thinking that she's the one fucking up when he's abusing her.
Right.
When someone tries to convince someone that they're going insane for noticing the reality of the situation.
Like, oh, you're cheating on me.
Like, no, you're crazy for seeing these patterns.
Clearly, he's cheating on her.
Yeah.
That kind of thing.
But, like, I don't want to hurt women ever.
You know that's true, baby.
I'm not a guy
Baby boy
You're a sweet boy
I know you don't want to hear anything
But that being said
Gaslighting
And that's why it's dangerous
Could be very fun it seems like
Oh yeah
So
Well can change your whole like
Position in life
We should come up with some kind of weird
Long time
Like the game
In the movie the game
But for gaslighting for us
We just pick someone randomly
Although I'm a consensual between us
I mean we gaslight some
Oh like a little competition
Yeah
Like a friendly competition
see who can gaslight the other one.
Yeah, but it takes place over the course 10 years,
so you don't know when's going to happen.
You're not constantly doing it.
Like, we say now, look, at some point in the next 10 years,
I'm going to gaslight you.
But, like, you can't assume every interaction is a gaslight.
Will there be a method of being like,
like, do you get points for being like, ooh, this is gaslighting?
Do you get points for noticing it?
Only if it's actually the case.
If it's not, you get points taken away, I think.
Sure.
Because you kind of ruin, we just can't ruin our lives.
No.
Yeah, the part of the thing is, are we mature enough to, like, exist in the milieu of our gaslight?
I really like this idea.
Yeah.
Let's try it for a month.
Yeah.
Like, well, no, it has, we can't try for a month.
That's the, we'll figure, well, we'll, off the air, we'll hash this out.
Because I feel like, let's not rush into it, an experiment.
We're going to do, we're going to have you on again.
Why we should start our own podcast?
Yeah.
Well, I'll see it.
I think this is going well.
Yeah, the gaslighting competition can be a little segment.
Yeah, that's going to be a whole thing.
This might, this is the virgins we're seeing here.
We're going to wrap this up in a second.
But I like this gas.
I'm going to put a pin in this gaslight thing because this is very erotic to me.
I'm getting very turned on.
I'm probably once these mics get turned off, I'm going to look in.
Oh, yeah.
And you'll lick me back.
It's going to be great.
But we're also going to talk because we're best friends.
I love you, baby.
Aw.
We're going to figure that out.
It's going to be great.
Lucy, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you for having me.
It's been great.
Where can people see you and find you?
Not in any kind of creepy way, but just, you know, your comedies and whatnots.
You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at the Steinbeg.
Like T-H-E-S-M-Beg?
Steinbeg.
Spell it out.
Just spell it.
Oh, sure.
It's T-H-E-S-T-E-I-N bag.
Bag.
That's great.
Twitter and Instagram.
Follow her.
She's hilarious.
Do you have anything else you want to plug?
No, I think that's.
That's it.
Okay, great.
You can also follow me on Twitter, Instagram, at Ray Kump.
Donate to my Patreon, please.
I know I was kind of being soft.
Well, yeah, we're going to figure out incentives.
If you want to be a stickler, go for it.
But be one of the best ones.
Be one of my loyal, let's see you again.
Let's, uh, Michael Ricardo.
Do a call and repeat.
Michael Ricardo.
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Benjamin Hofstetter.
and night light night shift lifestyle night shift lifestyle you're the king of you're great you're phenomenal people
lucy's great we're going to do great things the whole the whole world is happening have a great week
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