Kump - 9 - OLID Backdoor Pilot w/ Lucie Steiner

Episode Date: February 28, 2019

Ray is joined by Comedian Lucie Steiner, who is also his cherished lover. Together they discuss how to keep women out of Science and Math jobs,  Lucie's literary fetish, and Ray tests the limits ...of their relationship with a disgusting and provocative hypothetical.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Conjuring Last Rites On September 5th I come down here, I need you out! Array! Array! Array! Array! Array!
Starting point is 00:00:23 The conjuring, last rites. Only in theater, September 5th, Bridget R. Hello, welcome to Kump. Thank you for coming back right off the top. I'm going to thank the people who make this possible, even though it was happening before them. But the people who give me, they donate on Patreon, they don't have to.
Starting point is 00:01:05 No one has to, right? But we're seeing what you're made of. And right now we've got Michael Ricardo. Michael Ricardo, Benjamin Hofstetter, and Nightshift Lifestyle. They're keeping the lights on in this goddamn building. So thank you guys. If you guys want to be called out in a very mechanical way at the beginning of the podcast like this, it can be yours.
Starting point is 00:01:27 You can be immortalized. with my mumbling, cracking voice I can say your name I can say your wife's name if you want to donate to the Patreon but maybe like instead of your name you put like Tina I'm gonna burst your clit
Starting point is 00:01:46 with my passion love Jeremy like that could be the that could be a thing we do right I mean I don't know that might end up in time I can't be like doing clit reads like the whole episode
Starting point is 00:01:59 But, you know, that could be a premium tier maybe. I mean, Patreon has all these tier things. So I could, like, send sexual messages to your wife. I could, you know, review pictures of your wife or your boyfriend, talk about their abs. Anything sweet, anything sexual or political, even. If you have a political friend who wants me to, you know, chime in on Palestine on the episode in a kind of a lively sort of fashion,
Starting point is 00:02:25 that can be paid for. we can commodify me and my interaction with you on a very transactional one off basis you know so let's have a dialogue you know get on patreon uh because that's where the action is that's where podcasts uh you know where the dirt hits the hits the cum um or the cump if you will have you heard that saying dirt hits to come where the i haven't introduced you yet i'm sorry i am today this is the this is the i didn't trick you you. That was a cute, meat cute of some sort. Look, this is a new, we're broaching a new territory here. This is the first episode of Kump to have a guest.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And I'm very excited to be joined today by the esteemed amazing stand-up comedian, terrific comedy writer, professional comedy writer. Can I say who you wrote for? Oh, sure. John Stewart. She wrote for John Stewart
Starting point is 00:03:24 in a great show, which I have I've not seen, but it was great. And also, my sweet lover. Yes, we're a hot comedy item. We're a hot take. We're a hot pocket together. I like that even during your... Boosie Steiner.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Thank you. Hi. Hello. Everyone applaud. You know we can't hear you. Hi, Raymond. This is my lover. You might have seen her Instagram, and you thought you was just some chick who I tricked,
Starting point is 00:03:53 which is not, I mean, on some conceptual level, that might be true. You're such a trap, right? That's a sexist term. Don't say that. Who is that offending trans people? I honestly kind of forget what it means. It's a trap. This is an interesting dialogue.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We watch a great, you should watch ContraPoint. I think that bringing up last week? I might have. Yeah, she's great. She's a great trans woman who has this very interesting YouTube account. I like to have her on my show. I think I should probably be on her show. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:25 we can um but she's very creative trans person right yeah and uh very funny she did an episode on traps now apparently traps in the trans community are transsexual women who were too good well that's that's a value judgment right i shouldn't be doing that they're too attractive uh and and the men are attracted to them but they don't want to be attracted to them so therefore they're trapping them look the reality is they're trans women who give like homophobic straight men a crisis reality is there's a mid-peratured out there
Starting point is 00:05:00 which I might believe in I was 12 as well you know that like trans women go out there and try to trick straight men into fucking them reality you know what you're doing I enjoy trans women I'm outspoken to that I think I like them with dix or with that whatever I mean I don't like them exclusively or in a fetish way
Starting point is 00:05:18 I mean it is a fetish maybe it is a fetish I don't know I'm not trying to projected onto them though but I'm just saying like you like them and then you get it in your head oh there's a trans woman and then you hurt them and that's terrible um
Starting point is 00:05:31 thoughts lucy maybe don't say you know you know when you're attracted to them and it scares you so you hurt them it makes it sound like you're talking about something you have intimate experience this happens a lot no you're a good boy
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm a good boy but it's how you like what you like I like and I don't like hurting people I'm going to get a sip of tea. I don't like hurting people. I just have to do it. I don't do any. I'm a nice boy. By the way,
Starting point is 00:06:00 caveat, before we delve into this trans issue, I have a failing voice at the moment. It was much worse before. It cracked on another podcast, and then I got infected, and I've been sick, and Lucy's been nurturing me.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah. You sound good. You sound gravelly. Thank you. It's a little gravely. And I feel like we might have to cut this short at some point. I don't know if my voice gives out. So just caveat to that.
Starting point is 00:06:26 But back to this trans thing. I've never heard a trans person. I've never heard anyone, really. And I don't know. I think, but the reality is brass tacks. Like, don't try to be like, oh, I'm not gay. Because it's not gay. But, like, people are so homophobic and wrapped up in their macho shit.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Like, you're not mad. Like, stop acting, like, hitting a woman who's, like, you know, because she has a cock. You're a man now? you hit the person there's like they're still like a fight back very hard it was something of my you know there's a contingent there's an argument out there trans women are some the tougher when people out there
Starting point is 00:07:03 because they have to fight a lot I mean I've heard that said I don't know if it's as true as it used to be I think back in the day it used to be more like street violence in New York and the trans the trans sex workers would have to fight all the time it might still be true I mean it's a it's a positive it's meant as a positive
Starting point is 00:07:21 I don't know if it's positive. I'm just saying if you're a man and you're hitting someone who like looks like a woman and it sounds like a woman, they're in a dress, it's got to feel like you're hitting a woman. Like if you have any empathy. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the thing. It's like if you feel like this is like this lady tricked you but now it's a boy, but still like a, it's not like if it, look, this is all getting very problematic.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But if it's a quote unquote trap scenario, which you shouldn't even use that term, we're too privileged people using that term we should really debase ourselves with that but the point is is that we're correct with Lucy debase myself I don't know you mean like relieve yourself
Starting point is 00:08:03 no I've been thinking of something else I should disabuse myself of that term I should too yeah I don't really use I didn't even know they existed until a couple weeks ago so it won't be hard for me you I don't know
Starting point is 00:08:16 but the point is just stop hurting trans people And I feel like most people don't have to say it in their podcast And maybe I don't but I feel like I do Because I'm not sure who listens to this thing And I think we're on to some kind of progressive Yet gruff segment of the population That I can market and commodify
Starting point is 00:08:37 And that's what I'm trying to do, Lucy Is I'm trying to get these people who kind of think Slightly like me And I'm trying to put them into a financial box So I can exploit I mean I feel like that sounds like what the world is That's what you should be doing Like the whole world is a pyramid scheme now
Starting point is 00:08:53 And so I have to carve out the people In my downchain If you're if you're able to Amway or direct marketing My listeners are my downchain They have similar ideas But I just got to them first And I'm carving them out And I'm going to then to sell advertising
Starting point is 00:09:09 For like I don't know what A series of pins maybe Maybe I could advertise for a pin company With slogans like Go suck my mother's cock Or something I feel like something a listener of my show would like
Starting point is 00:09:22 Suck my mother's cock This is a safe space Yeah Yes thank you That's the synergy we're looking for Yeah so it's kind of like Advertising, exploiting But also
Starting point is 00:09:33 enlightening People Yeah Making people realize their shit But also They're privileged I'm just You know
Starting point is 00:09:45 Well I feel like that's the motive I feel like that is so much of entertainment now, though. You're shit, but also privilege. Don't complain. Which is, but here's the thing. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Like, we're going to go see Captain Marvel, right? Yeah. Yeah, I like the MCU. Kind. Like, enough. I keep bringing this up, but you know me. I'm not the MCU, boy. I'm not the guy going like,
Starting point is 00:10:14 but I have watched, you know, the Avengers Infinity's, Infinity Wars a bunch of times. this Brie Larson's terrible. She couldn't be worse. But she's coming out, this Brie Larson character, she was in a movie, you saw a room, right? She was in a room, yeah. She kidnapped a child in the movie?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, her and her baby get kidnapped. Oh, she was kidnapped. Yeah. And her baby grows up in a little room. But not her. It sounds cuter than it is. It's actually really terrifying. It sounds adorable.
Starting point is 00:10:46 But apparently, and she was also in the Scott Pilgrim film. uh with the michael sarah guy and um look she came out and she was all like down fucking like i hate like white men i don't care where white men think about wrinkle and time because it wasn't made for you and at first is like i guess but no like a movie's bad or not i've discussed in the previous episodes what she said about critics and shit i'm just saying she's doing it in a way where it's like i'm trying to be a cunt and i'm trying to be a loudmouth idiot talking on my ass just like you're a friend
Starting point is 00:11:20 to AOC which we can get through later. I'm not trying to you have you endorse my anti-leftist rhetoric but my point
Starting point is 00:11:29 is I'm just getting I can't get on board this is my point because I hate the PC culture right? I hate the SDW culture
Starting point is 00:11:40 I hate all these shooting and cram things down your throat but I hate the guys even more at the end sure like these guys
Starting point is 00:11:46 who go on YouTube and like with the neck beards as you pointed out when I show you's my favorite anti-Captain Marvel guy I forget his name I was I would give him a plug but like the gleeful shit eating style of like these
Starting point is 00:12:02 I'm not a sexist I don't hate women like this Jordan Peterson like I'm gonna dance around the issue because I think of but at least Peterson is a skilled rhetorical guy not not impervious but I'm saying these guys are just morons well and I'm saying this is someone like
Starting point is 00:12:18 The Captain Marvel trailer didn't bother me, like, initially. Like, I'm used to kind of... I like kind of indie ladies. Sure. So I was like, oh, this is kind of like a mumblecore superhero movie, maybe. Like, really Gerwig. Yeah, exactly. Like a Noah Bombach got an MCU film.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I feel like that's the most charitable interpretation of the trailer. Okay. But then she says something like that, and it's just like... Just on a pragmatic level that I often can't help but think on. Like, it's just like, that's just, it's just terrible for everyone involved. Right. It's bad for, like, female-led superhero movies. It's just a bad way of handling it.
Starting point is 00:12:59 But, yeah, at the same time, I definitely hate the neck beers more. And also, I kind of feel like if you are a guy who, like, superhero movies mean a lot to you, and you kind of feel like they're being ruined by SJW stuff, you might be right. But you should also consider that feminism probably has, like, 10 more years left. so like it's going to be gone soon there's going to be a huge backlash which I'm not looking forward to but you might
Starting point is 00:13:23 you think that you think that this whole wave of like progress of society is making towards equality across the board is going to oh I think it's going to turn so hard really yeah what's going to I don't want it to
Starting point is 00:13:38 no but back because right now we have Trump right yeah I've happened for a couple years it's not going to change overnight but what's going to change the culture Like, are the studios going to finally realize you're making less money? Oh, I think it's much worse than, like, studios, not making movies. Like, I think that, I'm thinking more, like, natural disaster level,
Starting point is 00:13:57 reversal of women's rights. Like, I feel like once, like, global warming really heats up and, like, people start experiencing a lot of, like, scarcity and, like, you know, wreckage and stuff. Like, I just think they're going to be, like, all right, back in there. Get back in there. So basically, your bonus operandi, your thesis. I don't put words in your mouth but you're basically saying that
Starting point is 00:14:19 you support feminism but when the shit really hits the fan women just need to shut the fuck up no but I do think that's what people tend to go towards like I think if you look at like just human history whenever like the shit hits the fan in a very serious way it's like
Starting point is 00:14:35 we're done listening to women first and foremost they are grading sometimes I mean they are kind of they have a nasalier voice I think your voice is very sweet I fall asleep when you're talking all the time in a nice way in a way of you're gentle
Starting point is 00:14:49 I've been told I have a warm kind of chocolatey voice You have a dove bar voice It's just like you know wraps me up And it's cookie center And I fucking just I pat your breast and you pat my head And it's just it's a lover's soup we have
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah That being said Women can be annoying I'm just being on I don't think I support women It's so funny say that because I was just thinking about this. I was just thinking about whenever I
Starting point is 00:15:18 see like a debate about feminism where you know there's a bunch of male like Jordan Peterson types female you know feminists the way I interpret the debate is always like okay who's more annoying men or women and it's like
Starting point is 00:15:34 it seems like they always choose the most annoying men and the most annoying women to represent both sides yeah here's the thing I mean part of it is that men get annoyed because women don't necessarily follow the same logical rigor that men do, right? Like, men are kind of, I mean that. Look, you can say it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, sure. You agree with this? No. You don't agree that women are more willing to get emotional in the debate. But complete the thought. Like, I'm willing to hear it out. No, I'm just saying that, like, you know, women are more, like, there's often an argument in, I don't know, SJW or whatever, but like, look, here's the thing. you hate women you think they're grading hear them out because there's off you might not agree
Starting point is 00:16:19 with everything they say but you're probably going to learn a few things and I'm saying I listen to women Lucy I listen to what they say and they go you know men they they try to say we shouldn't get emotional but like you know it's more crazy to be having this detached logical uh approach towards these like you know things that affect people's lives like you know life or death situations or like you know or ruining their life you know abortion or women's rights tissue it is and there's a certain like it may not be the most logical argument but there's a certain kind of like oh yeah like maybe this is crazy maybe we should look into this more so I feel like women those women are embracing the idea they're not as logical they're not as like well x plus y plus z has to do
Starting point is 00:17:01 this here here's a thing yeah I can accept on a certain level like I could definitely accept just on principle that there's differences between the sexes like on a biological level right and that like there it might even go towards what they're saying it goes towards it like men are inherently just going to be more interested in math and et cetera et cetera that could all be true but you've got to admit that you've pulled some bullshit in the past like you've pulled some shit like especially the scientific community i don't know how you can especially especially have like have used their authority in the past to say like ridiculous things about women I don't know how, like, women are trying to argue that, like, they were subjugated in the past.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And it's just like, it's just the way it was. No one was subjugating you. I'm kidding. This is like what Peterson will do. Peterson will, like, make this fucking, like, no, no, look, that's just the way it was. But it wasn't like men were challenged. Yes, it was. Can I give an example?
Starting point is 00:18:04 If you have to. Like, because it's a particularly amazing example. Okay. And it's like, it wasn't that uncommon even. Like, there was at one point, like in the 1920s or something, in Britain, there was an ordinance that women couldn't ride bicycles. Does it get orgasms? That would be great if they just came out and said it. If pusses get too wet.
Starting point is 00:18:28 They're going to have it too good. They're going to expect more. No, they created this ordinance that women couldn't ride bicycles because the fear was that women's bodies were arranged in such a way that their uterus is. would fall out. But this was like something of the plumbers set, right? Not like a doctor. It was something like lawmakers and scientists were saying. Scientists?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Like people who have at least a passing understanding of anatomy. Yes. Because people have been cunning. People act. This is what you're about? It started as like these are doctors. What do you resist? This is like in like the early 1900s.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Okay. So like the 20th century. Yeah. But people, because people have this idea that like we know what happened inside of a body before like 1950. but in reality like people have been cutting up a body since ancient Egypt they knew what the heart and they might not know what everything done exactly did
Starting point is 00:19:18 but like we knew shit for sure yeah they knew the uterus wasn't just connected by like what would that have to be what would have to have like is there a piece of velcro that would get knocked loose it's usually just like taped up in there with scotch tape and if even a little thing comes loose at all it's just blood and and guts just umbers glue and your dumb uterus suspended in like in a fucking sponge it's also like
Starting point is 00:19:45 I love how they don't even make they didn't even make the jump in any of the literature about this that it's like the fear that they would die even from the uterus falling out it's just like oops my uterus fell out
Starting point is 00:19:55 but like also like if that was the case why would my like heart like it might not fall out like look your heart can fall against the inside of your herniated disc as long as it doesn't fall
Starting point is 00:20:08 out of your body, it's fine. Like, your ribcage will fall into your balls, but it's still inside you. I'm a scientist. Like, who, who, what? Like, the guy who invented fucking the Super Bowl? Well, there was this one... You know, a bouncy ball, your page went? There was this one
Starting point is 00:20:24 guy in particular, and I wish I remembered his name, but, like, he was a really... Garen. Herman Gering. Herman Gereen. But he, like, initiated a lot of the kind of, like, pseudo-science that you hear about women, that they, like, A lot of, like, the more pseudoscientific claims about why women can't do certain things. Like, there are scientific claims about people's proclivities and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But then sometimes on, like, real, like, misogynist forums or something, you'll hear, like, more pseudo-scientific claims about how, like, women can't do this because, like, their period doesn't allow them to. It's, like, that kind of connection. They'll bleed all over the copy machine. You can't let them in. Yeah. Like, this guy pioneered that.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Like that kind of logic. And, like, he, like, released a bunch of studies. They became super popular in the U.S. And none of them were based on any scientific research. Like, they were just, like, he just wrote these conclusions. And his were, like, way more bizarre. It was, like, their periods will, like, you know, drive them insane. And they'll, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Look, there's a lack of women in the STEM field because they spend their 20s way too busy planning their extravagant weddings. They have these very elaborate weddings they plan, and therefore, the Higgs and Bokes and Particle, they don't want anything to do with it. So this female scientist, this early female scientist,
Starting point is 00:21:51 decides this guy is such a piece of shit, and he's, like, influencing so many people, a super popular guy, that she was like, I'm going to perform experiments to, like, test his theory. And, like, she, you know, planned out all these experiments, like, you know, proved, like repeated them over and over again like basically proved that he was wrong but it's like
Starting point is 00:22:11 it's so funny that like this what this any scientist man woman whatever had to do that just to like combat some bullshit theory it is great being a man like people complain about but like you really can just like i mean this is the extreme example but like i'll tell you from personal experience you just like have a deeper voice than someone and you'd be more confident and like they have to disprove you yeah like you're going to welfare is like it's worse for black people it hurts them and you want to go they have to prove why it does or doesn't so it's nice so this guy is just like yeah you know women if we let them ride uh derogibles then they'll fuck orangutans because it's in their uterus is shaped like a
Starting point is 00:22:53 fucking orangutan cock and like no that makes sense but I could publish I if I lived in the 1920s I could publish I could be a fucking esteemed scientist I can make this shit up all day like Give me an example. Give me a problem for women. We're going to do this right here. You know, women, the rape kit system isn't super reliable, and sometimes people's rape kits get backlogged or destroyed, and it's really hard to navigate that bureaucracy.
Starting point is 00:23:21 The problem is that a large proportion of rapes happening because the woman fell in love with the rapist. And so by the time the rape kit gets processed, they actually ask for it back because they fell in love with the guy who raped her. So really, you should really do more research
Starting point is 00:23:42 because these women actually don't want these kids processed. I've talked to them. That sounds like a real meat cute. You know what? Give me the rape kit back. I'm here to get my rape kit back. Everyone's up to pluring.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, you found someone. The nurse is like winking at her. Good job. And the guys dare with her. And it's like, he knew. He's like, sometimes he's like, like, he's some old, like, older, like, sassy fat nurse.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He's like, sometimes he's got to show a woman what she wants. Asking for it. In theaters this June. When a man loves a woman, then the other time raping kits. Oh, we got to make this trailer. We should. We should.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Please donate to the. Patreon so Lucy and I can make the trailer for the Rape Kid Rape Kid the movie? It's a called, it's waiting a long. Rape Rapes get Uh,
Starting point is 00:24:50 what do you think? What do you think? What should think be called? The movie or the Scrape Kit? Scrape Kit. Uh, I think he's calling it rape kit would be like, like, like, like the notebook like the rape kit the other books like the you could have called
Starting point is 00:25:08 seven the notebook there's notebooks in the movie like there might be other movies that have other you takes on rape kits but we got we were the first one that call it rape kit so we get the title yeah yeah it's called rape kit and people might come in it's
Starting point is 00:25:25 some kind of documentary about the polite the actual plight of rape you know kids being thrown out in many jurisdictions and how they're not being processed because a budget constraints that would probably not affect other things but they apparently affect rape kits we can find the money for anything except
Starting point is 00:25:41 for a rape kit but it won't be that it won't be that documentary it'll be our cute romantic comedy about rape victims falling in love with their rapists yeah why are we not rich and then they'll be happy honestly someone needs to like sign us boat to her
Starting point is 00:25:57 fucking development deal because we can do this all day rape kit the movie blood rape the movie um rape me on Sunday it's just a nice like um rape me in St. Louis
Starting point is 00:26:11 whatever rapes yeah the movie calls meet me in St. Louis right there is yeah with Julie Garland I saw it in the film class once we remake that called Rape me in St. Louis
Starting point is 00:26:20 yeah rape me in St. Louis I'm not a fan of rape this is satire I got to this is what this world's comes to hashtag satire yeah
Starting point is 00:26:32 this is what the world's come to I can't go off a tangent with my girlfriend about rape movies. Everyone's going to fucking, they're going to isolate this. They're going to fucking nail me to the cross. You've got to put the word satire in parentheses after the title
Starting point is 00:26:46 of the podcast. Yes. But what you were saying, you made a good point, and I think you've actually pointed this out. You made me realize something about myself during our... I made it get a lot of about yourself. We get some work done, you know what I mean? Apparently, to make sex work, You have to put a thing in the hole.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, she was just fucking jiggling on the clit. And I'm like, no, no, no, still do that. But I could also insert stuff. Dicks, hands, whatever, naked chips. But you pointed out to me during our time as lovers. Yes, sweet lovers. Sweet lovers. You've pointed out to me that I can get into a mode.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I don't always do it. But I can get into a mode when we're debating about something. Yeah. Where I'm very rigid. Oh, sure. And you actually have a, like, the word, absolutely you pointed out comes up oh sure it's like you know yeah there's a phenomenon and men are absolutely more to blame for rape than women and I'm like well you go why are you
Starting point is 00:27:45 saying absolutely it's not that it's a little different a little different it's a little less justified when I when I get into that but like and I think I do it maybe partially because of what you were saying before because of the whole like the whole like a strong voice thing growing up with brothers you got to like you got to make your your vocabulary a little bit bigger to you know more aggressive we both used to be fans about it and i and used to listen to you know petrease and quentin and all the guys on there and yeah just just like you learn a lot and then he goes to ron benning and just like a style of just like i shut your mouth yeah quiet fucking idiot you know shop stupid and just that kind of like just condescending like just a certain
Starting point is 00:28:29 cadence your voice and it makes you right it really does make you right so much and for so many people I mean look like is No Machomsky gonna beat me in the bait maybe like look at you dumb fucking glasses you fucking probably fucking kids in the ass shut your mouth
Starting point is 00:28:43 like what's it gonna say to that probably something smart but like no one's gonna care is that what you mean yeah compliment of me I appreciate that yeah this is uh now so we're gonna see Captain
Starting point is 00:28:59 Marvel is the point. I get it. I get people who hate feminists, but like also the guy, it's just, but I really, look, if you see me change this position of any time soon, it's because I'm realizing that no one
Starting point is 00:29:14 I got, if you don't let me commodify you as people, the people who see the nuance like I do, I'm going to start just becoming like you always said I'd be a great Yeah, I have like broached this with you that you, if you just went to the alt right right you would make so much fucking money i mean i brooch this with
Starting point is 00:29:34 tim would make the case i mean you might remember the apagas episode where the there's no fat nazis they don't want fat guys in the in the all right but i feel like i could be the first fat alt writer yeah i feel like tim was too quick on the trigger there i mean uh god sad or whatever is kind of fat but he's a isn't he a communist no he's like a or maybe he's more of an mra than Oh, I can, look, maybe that's the move. MRA would be the move. I could be an MRA, I could be a pickup artist. Like, look, I should use you as my pickup artist prop.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Look, I fuck her. Come on, listen to me. Well, you have to prove that you fuck a lot of different women, so it would just be me in different wigs. I feel like this. I feel like, because, look, here's a problem with all these YouTube idiots and these fucking podcast idiots, you keep trying to plow the grounds or even plowed.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Like, stop trying to, like, I like that guy pitch him. Ryan George has the pitch meeting show on YouTube. They're funny. They're popcorn funny. He's talking to himself. It's great. Me and Lucy likes it. I was Googling a YouTube being one yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I realized there's people who make their own pitch meeting shows. These idiot YouTubers are just whipping them off. Lots of them in foreign countries. But they're in their shit. Oh, yeah. What assholes? They got like 200 views. But my point is like what kind of rotten scumbag
Starting point is 00:30:53 have no character motherfuckers do you have to be? So my point is. I'm not going to make, I'm not going to be the MRA talking about, hey, I fuck a lot of women. I'm going to be the MRA is why I'm going to make money. Maybe not the most money, but a good amount of money. Because I'm going to be the MRA, goes, hey, I don't fucking a lot of women. But I got this, this one's pretty hot and I got her. It's a targeted MRA.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like, you focus all your attention on one woman and you scammer. I feel like that's a huge corner of the MRA market that has not been exploited yet, or like the MRAs who really kind of secretly won intimacy. They all want intimacy The actual pickup bars, I think, are liars or whatever But I don't know what their actual story is But the reality is the people going that route Because I'll be ashamed to admit
Starting point is 00:31:39 When I was like 22 I bought some books that were basically MRA book I didn't know if they were of audible I think I actually deleted them recently from audible Because I couldn't stand seeing him in my library It was like how to like you know Convinced women I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:53 And it was just very sleazy like MRAs weren't even a thing back then this was like back when I was like you know 2005 maybe or four and uh it really was because like you're good talking to women and like you're lonely and like oh these guys like if I can learn
Starting point is 00:32:09 these tactics I wouldn't be a scumbag about it if I just learn how to see these guys all just want to know like I yeah and just wait till you're 35 that's the move and you can date other people in the meantime but like you wait until like you know women think you're like you know
Starting point is 00:32:25 more mature than you are or whatever you just wait be be sad in your 20s who gives this shit go fucking go fucking working on morgue like I did in a potato bread warehouse you have time to fuck puss you know I did I got I I pulled before before we um our souls connected right merge with each other sure um did you ever find that like women were turned on by the fact that you worked at a morgue um think? Were they turned on by the fact that they work
Starting point is 00:33:01 as a more? Not much. It was interesting maybe. They were interested by it, but there weren't like, does not look. I feel like if you played it up a little bit, like, because you tend to go right for like the grisly details. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And you're very stoic about them. Yeah. Like, hey, I've held a man's brains in my hands before. And I say to lose you a lot of times when we're fucking No, here's the thing I don't know if I ever brought up at a bar Flirting with women much But I would bring it up on Tinder a lot
Starting point is 00:33:33 And I feel like they would be curious And I would give them details And then they would stop talking to me I would get ghosted on Tinder You have more of like a direct way of talking about Like I feel like there are some guys who would be like Yeah, there's a lot of darkness in there Like it's a lot of tragedy
Starting point is 00:33:48 Sure And you're just like Yeah I was holding his guts And then shit started pouring out And then I say, you, let me get in your guts. That's my, this is my pillow to gore loosey. I say, let me get in your guts. That should be the name of the episode.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Let me get in your guts. Yes. But, no, it wasn't, like, women seem, they're more turned on by the potato bread warehouse, I think, where the fact that I filed my teeth down. I told you that story, right? No. You never heard that story? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I mean, it's part of the bit I do with the rugby. I was working at a potato bread warehouse People might have heard me say this before I don't remember I was working at a graveyard shift The midnight to eight shift And my friend You know my friend
Starting point is 00:34:34 He was He got me the job in the first place He drove a potato bread You know truck route Like delivering the stores So one day around like 7 a.m. or whatever 8 a.m. I go after work, meet up with him
Starting point is 00:34:47 And like you know we sometimes like finish up the route with him And then we get a beer sandwich or whatever Then that night, I, you know, at 8 p.m. or whatever, I'd eat in a bean burrito from Taco Bell, which is soft, right? The soft food, it's not like one of these big, thick burritos that you get from a fucking Mexican restaurant that puts, like, seashells in there, or whatever the fuck they do. I'm not disparaging Mexicans, I'm just saying it, but there was nothing crunchy eating a burrito. And I break my tooth off because I had a rotten tooth, I guess.
Starting point is 00:35:15 It wasn't hurting or anything. It just crumbled, kind of, and left half of like a jagged pointy tooth. so I'm fucking it's like I'm working this whole potato bread wear out which is strenuous work and it wasn't that good at it yet so I'm just sweating
Starting point is 00:35:27 I'm moving around lifting pallets of bread on the fucking pallet movers and whatever it's hard people go out of bread it's gonna be yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:35:35 you're moving 18 stack high stacks of these bread trays it weighs a lot and then four of those go onto a pallet don't fucking talk oh it's soft bread yeah and you suck up anything
Starting point is 00:35:46 it gets heavy you couldn't put Claire Rose guys couldn't put that much beer onto a pallet. You know, those guys are pretty ripped, the beer guys. But still, they wouldn't be moving as much bread, like beer as we moved bread as they give it. You move as much as you can at any given time.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Whatever. Point is, I had this jagged fucking tooth sticking into the side of my tongue all night. And by, like, 5 a, I guess 4 a.m., when the drivers started coming to pick up their loads, I realized I couldn't even talk. I was so, like, my tongue was all bleeding, and I couldn't fucking, so it was bad, hurt.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I was like, and so whatever. So it was a rough morning and I, you know, leave, I go and meet with my friend. And I realize this at a certain point like, I got to do something about this. And so we're in the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I got to fucking deal with this. So I stop in the aisle, and I pay for it. You know, I buy a metal nail file. You know, like you file a nail file. Not that one, like the cardboard, whatever ones, like the metal ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Okay, okay. Is that how you feel about? Yeah. Okay. Because as a kid, I always some people used them in the other ones, the sandpaper ones. This is metal. So I grab that. And if I can go to his bread truck, there's got a big side mirror, you know, the rectangular mirror. And I look in the mirror and they fucking use this file. I file the point of my tooth down.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. And that turns when it on. No. No. No. Uh. That is kind of honestly, like any kind of abandon. who can do something hard to his own body?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah. Like it's kind of, that is kind of a turn. Well, I have that bit about, like, it's an old bit I've had for a while and it does well enough about being, I'm trying to do bits on a podcast, but I feel like it doesn't, I feel like people think it's funny,
Starting point is 00:37:34 but I feel like I got rewriting. I don't know if they get, that's exactly my point. Like, yeah. I don't, they get that's what it's about. It's about, like,
Starting point is 00:37:41 hey, I do all this hard, like, you want a rugged guy. I do all this hard shit to myself. Like, but you're fucking, but you want some guy where's, like a fucking lumber, whatever, jacksuit, what the fuck he does. Yeah, you want a guy who's like, because I imagine you, and it's like, I could be
Starting point is 00:37:54 wrong, you never know unless you're in the situation, but, like, I imagine you as the kind of guy who, like, you know, if you were in a violent situation. Right, and I bite the guy's cheek. Yeah, and a guy, like, stabbed you in the stomach with a sword. Like, you just start biting. A sword? Yeah. You have a sword on them in, like, an alley? I have Game of Thrones on the brain.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Okay, so I was like, if you were in a sword, it's like, you'd be the guy who's like you get stabbed the sword and you just keep. coming at you I hate I fucking hate swords I start biting his neck like it hurts but you can take
Starting point is 00:38:24 it ah and I'm coughing blood in the guy it's just like I have a disease I'm biting them yeah no like that
Starting point is 00:38:32 that is the thing and like women and I'm not trying to tell women what to be attracted to it's not my place to tell a woman how to get wet
Starting point is 00:38:40 but I'm saying you should be attracted to me when I file down my rotten tooth right but it's like if you're following
Starting point is 00:38:48 if you're not trying to be Jordan Peterson here but if you follow the logic of your pussy and you go why would I want a guy who was rugged this is why? Because if we get this scenario you know he'll fucking he'll use my, he'll fix my body with like McGiver
Starting point is 00:39:02 but McGiver was sexy that's a problem. Like the people who know this shit aren't sexy like McGiver it look like me or may not well me but like you know variants of me with different kinds of weird jaws and claws I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:39:18 I know shit if you if you're some great looking guy who just pulls trim and gets laid you're not going to be reading about like some weird SES survival guide which honestly I didn't finish but you know yeah whenever you see like
Starting point is 00:39:31 because you know the mythological interpretation of it is like werewolves and vampires and stuff but like whenever you see like a guy and like women are very turned on by those things statistically right and like but whenever you see like a male
Starting point is 00:39:44 vampire and a movie he's always He's like this kind of like metrosexual like waif, yeah, waif. He's like, God damn it, I'm a vampire. Yeah. It's like Nosferoktu. When you watch the original Nosferoktu, he's disgusting. Yeah, he's hot. Oh, you think he's sexy?
Starting point is 00:39:59 No. He's a real man. Yeah. Real vampire. Well, he has a very, like, I mean, just his teeth and his fucking, I remember, I got, my dad, uh, punished me once because I asked if I could stay home to watch Nosferoktu because he was on science fiction channel, like one o'clock in a year.
Starting point is 00:40:16 afternoon. And it was such a weird interaction because he didn't want to jump the gun. But he said to me like, are you serious? I'm like, yes. You're punished. And I was like, what? He's like, it was such a stupid thing to ask.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I almost respect it. This doesn't do with the previous conversation, but it's bringing up memories. Yeah. He was just like, are you serious? You give me the out. Are you actually asking me this? I'm like, yes, I want to stay home from school
Starting point is 00:40:43 to watch a horror film. And I'm like that into like Dracula. or anything. Like, it's just like, oh, I heard this movie. I want to watch it,
Starting point is 00:40:49 but it's only on like, you know, at one clock. It's pre-tevo, right? You millennial fucks. But like, he asked me,
Starting point is 00:40:55 are you serious? I said, yes, and he goes, you're grounded. I remember one of the, the first movie that ever made me feel
Starting point is 00:41:03 a little bit like, turned on as a kid. Right. It was this old movie as a Spencer, like it was Spencer Tracy. Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:11 In Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Oh. And it's a really like, it's a pretty, It's not super gory or anything, but it's a pretty, like, disturbing, violent interpretation of it.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Like, you see him, like, strangling a woman. And there's a scene in the movie where it was very confusing sexually because, like, there's a scene where he is, Mr. Hyde is, like, torturing this, like, psychologically torturing this, like, dancer girl who fell in love with him when he was Dr. Jekyll. And so he comes over, you know, to her place that she's playing piano. and he walks through the door and she's all scared and stuff and he's like, no, play for me.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Play for me. And she starts playing the piano and he takes, there's a cake next to her and he takes a handful of cake and smushes it in her face. What? And he's like, sing for me and he's smushing the cake in her face.
Starting point is 00:42:08 This is like a fetish film you're watching. And it's like, it made me really wet. Do you, do you, I mean, have you ever pursued just cake? I've never pursued the Do you want to go get a cake You want to go get a cake on the way home? I might
Starting point is 00:42:20 I can mash it into your face and say play for me play for me I can play on a little electronic drum kit Yes You can be like You're doing a little
Starting point is 00:42:32 like my Yinky doodle and I'm just going Fly for me I'm shoving the hostess fruit cake in your face and you're just getting fucking gallons of wet Fucking gallons of wet
Starting point is 00:42:43 fucking great no there's something about I'm not even into like food even but it's just the domination of like smushing cake you know that says hot yeah yeah uh is anyone ever is nothing that to blow past your um just very creepy fetish but isn't dr jekyll a much creepier mr hyde's the bad guy mr hyde's the bad guy but dr jekyll's a much creepier name oh yeah is that part of the story yeah i don't know where they came up well Maybe it's supposed to be like Jekyll, like jovial or something.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That's not what Jekyll means. Yeah, I don't know. Like, shouldn't it be like Dr. Hyde and Mr. Jekyll? Makes much more sense. I know this is full as well. Hyde does kind of sound like a villainous name. Yeah, we're moving on from that. This show is a fast-paced show, Lucy, and you're doing great.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But when I started going, ah, we're moving on. That's me gearing up for fucking. I'm sorry. Yeah, there was a transition. That was me. digging into the well of my like, ah,
Starting point is 00:43:46 people think it's all random. But it's good to have you here because it just, it upsets those noises. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'll be more attentive to the... Yeah, you've got to follow the new ones.
Starting point is 00:44:01 My point is, I was trying to broach the thing. We had a conversation that we started recently and I abruptly stopped that we should do this here. It's why you're like, it's kind of the reason I brought you on not like I wouldn't have you otherwise but I was like we should this should be a thing
Starting point is 00:44:18 because I look we were in bed and we were talking we were just making cutie talk and be like I love you and I love you and you snuggle and you cut your cull bear just saying cutey things
Starting point is 00:44:32 you know I'm a cute guy she's a cute girl fuck you if you don't like it now and we're being kind of flirty and you're saying I love you forever bullshit And I said, what would you do if I just, like, shit to bed right now?
Starting point is 00:44:52 And I feel like, and you start, look, let's, it was an interesting pass. I want to just, let's just do it here. Okay. What would you do, Lucy, my sweet love? Oh, I love you so much. Cutie pie. Sweet bear. What would you do if I just shit to bed right now?
Starting point is 00:45:13 I would, and this is what I said the last time. Well, it's acted as if we're there. I know. I think that it's not like I wouldn't be turned off or disgusted by it, right? Like, I'd be grossed out by it. Yeah. But that, that disgust would be mixed with genuine concern. Like, I'd be concerned about you.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Why are you being concerned? No, because I'm not sick. Is that me having the flu? I can't imagine that you wouldn't be sick. Like, I don't know. I'm not sick. Listen to me. I'm saying to you, this is a scenario, what would happen if I, I'm not, like, look,
Starting point is 00:45:48 well, I've had the situation in my old bed, which I feel, I don't have you ever told you this because we used that bed and I had to flip it, but now I moved out of that place. We lived together now. But I got sick back in 2016. We had gone to dinner with the great Russ Baker, me and Tim, the day after Thanksgiving, who worked at our family secrets book. And I don't, I got food poisoning at that dinner. and I went home
Starting point is 00:46:15 and I shit like I was a situation where I woke up in the middle of the night and I felt better you know you're really food boys
Starting point is 00:46:24 you're dizzy you're sweating you're throwing up you're shitting I felt bad at this moment like oh wow I feel a little better
Starting point is 00:46:30 I looked down and I had shit like a light brown porridge into the bed it was terrible oh baby yeah it was sick I never wanted to tell you
Starting point is 00:46:41 because you know we were snuggling I felt bad bringing it up but now we're gone it's over so no more worries I flipped it we weren't laying in a fucking shit like patch don't worry but uh there was shit patch was there underneath underneath the mattress there was a patch of shit um how far do you does your well of secrets go I mean this is I was trying to protect you so that was a situation If that happened Yeah, I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:13 I don't expect you to leave me Yeah I wouldn't I would take care of you Thank you And you would wipe me Like a baby Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah that'd be great I mean like I wipe people with the morg So I would wipe you I would wipe you no problem I'd look at you I go sticky baby You're stinky baby
Starting point is 00:47:30 I shit myself mommy Oh You might Eat my shit mommy Oh yeah Oh yeah So your finger in my ass This is hot
Starting point is 00:47:39 No So that's, you know, but, like, I'm talking about a scenario where I just look at you, and I just didn't, like, I had this shit, and I just didn't feel like watching TV. I didn't feel like going to the bathroom. That's the way to shit the bed. Would you break up with me? Okay, let's execute this. Yeah. Start to finish.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Hey, uh, honey, did you just shit? Yeah. Did you just shed in your pants? Yeah, yeah, I shit, yeah, you smell it? Yeah. Are you okay? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I just have the shit. Oh, I mean, are you feeling, you know, are you under the weather or something? No, I just, I had the shit. Why? Why? I ate food, I guess, 12 hours ago. Where long it takes the shit, you know? Why wouldn't you just go to the bathroom?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I just didn't feel like. I guess kind of want to keep watching this show. Love his Game with Thrones. You didn't, honey, are you okay? You didn't feel like it? Yeah, I mean, you're not enjoying the episode? How often do you... Are you enjoying the episode of Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:48:47 I love it. Right, I didn't want to, like, make a hassle for you, and I didn't want to get up. It's artistic, it's action-packed. Yeah. But why, how, how, do you do this a lot? No, no, it's not a common thing, you know. I mean... I just didn't feel...
Starting point is 00:49:06 I was, like, thinking about going to the bathroom, and I was thinking about like I just go and you sit there and shit and then wipe your ass I was like I'm just enjoying myself and a nice Saturday night like fuck that I just should the bed
Starting point is 00:49:19 so you just wanted to save time bye why didn't feel like yeah I didn't feel like you know spending time in the bathroom I love you I want to spend time with you I love you too but like you're not going to do this again right
Starting point is 00:49:35 like this isn't going to happen again well you're acting as if like this is something I do all the time it's not I mean I've never done this before in front of you so why you why are you like I'm not gonna like make a promise to you like I'll never do like why don't wait this is coming from is it the kind of thing where you just waited too long and it happened or no I felt it coming on I'm like oh if I don't you know it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse my little shit now okay honey yeah I love you.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I love you too, baby. You can't do this again. You're acting like this is something I do. All right. I've done this. And I could have a legitimate reason. And if it happened again, like, I mean, it wouldn't be just like, you know, tomorrow. Yeah, but I mean, never.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I don't know why you're making it out like. I'm so kind of like it's a pathology I have. But if it's not a pathology, then you can promise. first of all, you have to clean yourself up because you're going to get sick. Well, how many, what's sick? We're talking about it. I might get a rash.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I might get sick. Getting a rash is getting sick. That's a rash. It's a topical thing. I don't want you to get skin infections. I'm not going to leave it for a day. I'll fucking clean it an hour or two. Here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. When you look at it from the perspective of a Kantian principle, if everybody did what you just did all the time, then we'd be swimming. in our own feces and we'd get a plague again. Sure, but no one does. Like, if this was like medieval Europe,
Starting point is 00:51:14 I wouldn't be doing this. I'd go out to my hole and shit there. But like, part of the benefit of living in a modern society is that, yeah, not all the time. I'm not saying all the time. But, you know, if you're like in a situation, like sometimes, you know, I'm just to take the garbage out. And I say,
Starting point is 00:51:30 I don't feel like it. And like, it'll let pile up and I'll take it out, all of it out on Thursday instead of Tuesday. They pick it up multiple times a week, right? So, oh, the garbage is going to be sitting out there in your front gate, you know, behind the gate for too long. It's going to be overflowing.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Sure. Or even, like, inside, I shoot the garbage out. Oh, it's going to stink up their house. It might stink up the living room a little bit, but I'm just having a comfortable time with my baby. In the same principle, yeah, I'm like, I could shit into a toilet. I could just go and, like, put my shit into water.
Starting point is 00:52:02 But, like, I don't feel like it. And, like, I live my life in the, in the organized fashion. So if I occasionally want to shit in the bed, it's a luxury of our times. Okay. So, I'm,
Starting point is 00:52:20 can we, let me just set certain baselines. Okay. Can we agree on certain things? Sure. One, can we agree that human shit smells bad? It's not the best smell.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah, it smells. Wait, right, not that it's not the best smell. It smells. particularly bad. Out of all the things. I've smelled bad things. You know, a fucking cancerous uterus smells worse than shit.
Starting point is 00:52:43 But I grant you, you know, some people think shit smells bad, sure. Don't be a martyr about this. You know for the average human being that it smells exceptionally bad. I'll let you have this one. Okay. So it smells bad. Sure. We've established that.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Okay. Sure. Human shit in enough volume and frequency can create. unsanitary conditions. I'm not like shitting into a large, like, you know, tub over and over until I fill it up. This is a one-time, you know, occasional thing. You're sitting in your own shit right now.
Starting point is 00:53:17 For now. For the time being, I am sitting in the shit, yes. Okay. Close contact with human shit for too long can lead to, like you said, rashes? Sure. It can lead to medical issues. If not the worst medical issues,
Starting point is 00:53:34 than, like, significant medical issues. I suppose. So, and the modern convenience of the toilet makes it, like, nearly impossible to, like, excuse not use it. Can I interrupt you and say something? Yeah. You really seem to be sucking the joy out of me taking the shit in the bed,
Starting point is 00:53:57 which was supposed to increase my pleasure, increase my enjoyability. Like, you spend all this time arguing with me about, like, just constant. in principles and like I did this so we wouldn't have to like interrupt the show of game you know like and now you're just kind of like yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's like what you do this again and like I'm not going to like have some philosophical argument where I go I'm definitely never going to do this again but like stop acting like it's something I do all the time
Starting point is 00:54:24 honey I'm doing this because I want to preserve our relationship I love you and I don't know why you're being just difficult difficult girlfriend love you too and you know I'm just trying to make sure you must have a so you really you're acting like I'm such a scumbag I'm just some fucking like wretch who like comes home and like I take my pants off and the shit
Starting point is 00:54:46 just flowing down my leg and you always have to like follow me of a rag they walk around the apartment where like a fucking like just a t-shirt with no fucking underwear and just shit in a little over the place and you follow me with a fucking like ice cream bowl and you're catching my shit
Starting point is 00:55:02 and it's just something to deal with all the time and I'm a burden to you. No, this happens occasionally at best, all right? One time so far, and you're acting like I'm to some fucking homeless psychopath. This is gaslighting. You're turning on me something that was the result of your actions, and you're trying to make it seem like I'm, like, putting upon you some kind of, like, extreme regulation. But really, it's just a normal human convention, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's just a normal, normal human convention like a, like what? Like putting a, like putting a napkin on your lap, like, you know, wearing pants outside. It's just something to do. Do you want me to put a napkin on my lap when I shit in the bed? But you don't want to see it, like you love to see my dick, but not when I'm shitting. What is this? If you put a napkin on your lap, maybe. I'm not asking you to suck me.
Starting point is 00:56:03 me off while I'm shit in the bed. That would be wrong. That'd be sexist. I shouldn't have said it that crudely. But, you know, I love you. I respect you as a woman. But, you know, I'm not asking for weird shit sex stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I just want you not to treat me like an animal. But if I occasionally, you know, theoretically more than once, uh, shit my bed. But so far only, only once. It's animalistic behavior. Yeah, but so is, you know, so is grunting after you eat a nice,
Starting point is 00:56:33 sandwich. I do that. You do? I go, oh, oh, yeah. I grunt. I have a nice chicken palm sandwich, hero.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I fucking go, oh, grab my belly. That's, that's animalistic. And when we fuck, it's animalistic, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm just sticking it in, you're going, yeah. And I'm just, ugh. Like, what, what are we,
Starting point is 00:56:56 are we doing fucking pirouettes? Are we doing pirouettes? No, are we, are we doing pirouettes? It's a, it's a,
Starting point is 00:57:03 animalistic behavior. Those are animalistic behaviors that only result in mutual pleasure. Right. This is an animalistic behavior that results in discord. I don't know why, because I did this primarily to prolong the mutual pleasure
Starting point is 00:57:19 of us watching Game of Drones. And you're acting like I didn't do is for us. But it instantly interrupted our pleasure. Well, you interrupted our pleasure, let's be honest. Look, if nothing else, have to admit that. You didn't, you could argue the legitimacy if you're not doing it, but you did. You interrupted our pleasure
Starting point is 00:57:38 to have this conversation with me. You interrupted my pleasure. How? By exposing me to the smells and aromas of your shit. Because you have a very bourgeois sense of smell and delicacy, which I get, you've been brought up a certain way. You had the reactions. I didn't, I didn't assume you'd be that delicate and that you know upper crust and like and like you know upstarty about like oh
Starting point is 00:58:06 pretending to be a rich girl oh i've never smelled shit before baby i love you i love you too you're the love of my life we're going to spend a lot of our lives together i wouldn't talk to you about this if you weren't the love of my life of course yeah it's a it is this is a sensitivity that isn't just upper class bourgeois stuff it's a biological reaction If you were a plumber, if you were a plumber, you'd be used to smelling shit. So you want me to become a plumber? It's a good job.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I don't know why you're saying it like that. Like, it is a good job. Look, you can make a lot of money being a poor. You might be a good plumber. I'm sure I could be a good plumber. But you know, it doesn't, I respect plumbers. But you're saying that's the length I have to go to to appreciate, to learn to live with your, you're shitting yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It's become a plumber? Look, I'm saying the whole point of my. this conversation is I'm not constantly shitting myself. I'm not walking around making you catch my shit in a bowl. If that was the case, I understand it. I'm saying you're being such a prima donna about one time that I shit in a bed next to you. I thought I knew you. You won't even say that you won't do it again.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I'm saying I probably won't do it again very often, if ever. Will you try not to do it again? I really, here's the thing. I don't see it happening anytime soon but the fact that you're asking me to try when I'm making it very like I'm being very recent I've never done it before now and so why you have to try to not do it again later
Starting point is 00:59:41 it probably won't come up because it was intentional and if you intended to do something one time you could intend to do it again I feel like you were just trying to control how I view the world and you're trying to control how I like I did something nice for you and it's not nice enough
Starting point is 00:59:59 And that's how I feel. Like, it's never good enough. I'm telling you that it wasn't nice for me. Are you going to leave me or not? I just want an assurance. I am not going to assure it. I'm going to say it probably won't happen very often. You're not even going to apologize for it.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I'm sorry that you have these, like, ultra-sensitive... I'm breaking up with you. All right. See, so... That's how far it would have to get. All right. You know, it could get that far. That's how much I love you.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I feel pretty good about this then, because I gaslight you pretty hard there. You did gaslight me. I wouldn't let it go, I wouldn't let it go unnoted. But like, if you realized it and then stop gaslighting me, that could be okay. Gaslighting seems fun. Oh, yeah. Like, people don't talk about how bad it is. For people who aren't necessarily familiar with gaslighting, very quickly summon up for people.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Gaslighting is a practice that happens in abusive relationships or whatever. I don't know exactly. It's when the men tricks the woman into thinking that she's the one fucking up when he's abusing her. Right. When someone tries to convince someone that they're going insane for noticing the reality of the situation. Like, oh, you're cheating on me. Like, no, you're crazy for seeing these patterns. Clearly, he's cheating on her.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah. That kind of thing. But, like, I don't want to hurt women ever. You know that's true, baby. I'm not a guy Baby boy You're a sweet boy I know you don't want to hear anything
Starting point is 01:01:31 But that being said Gaslighting And that's why it's dangerous Could be very fun it seems like Oh yeah So Well can change your whole like Position in life
Starting point is 01:01:40 We should come up with some kind of weird Long time Like the game In the movie the game But for gaslighting for us We just pick someone randomly Although I'm a consensual between us I mean we gaslight some
Starting point is 01:01:52 Oh like a little competition Yeah Like a friendly competition see who can gaslight the other one. Yeah, but it takes place over the course 10 years, so you don't know when's going to happen. You're not constantly doing it. Like, we say now, look, at some point in the next 10 years,
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm going to gaslight you. But, like, you can't assume every interaction is a gaslight. Will there be a method of being like, like, do you get points for being like, ooh, this is gaslighting? Do you get points for noticing it? Only if it's actually the case. If it's not, you get points taken away, I think. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Because you kind of ruin, we just can't ruin our lives. No. Yeah, the part of the thing is, are we mature enough to, like, exist in the milieu of our gaslight? I really like this idea. Yeah. Let's try it for a month. Yeah. Like, well, no, it has, we can't try for a month.
Starting point is 01:02:37 That's the, we'll figure, well, we'll, off the air, we'll hash this out. Because I feel like, let's not rush into it, an experiment. We're going to do, we're going to have you on again. Why we should start our own podcast? Yeah. Well, I'll see it. I think this is going well. Yeah, the gaslighting competition can be a little segment.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, that's going to be a whole thing. This might, this is the virgins we're seeing here. We're going to wrap this up in a second. But I like this gas. I'm going to put a pin in this gaslight thing because this is very erotic to me. I'm getting very turned on. I'm probably once these mics get turned off, I'm going to look in. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And you'll lick me back. It's going to be great. But we're also going to talk because we're best friends. I love you, baby. Aw. We're going to figure that out. It's going to be great. Lucy, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Thank you for having me. It's been great. Where can people see you and find you? Not in any kind of creepy way, but just, you know, your comedies and whatnots. You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at the Steinbeg. Like T-H-E-S-M-Beg? Steinbeg. Spell it out.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Just spell it. Oh, sure. It's T-H-E-S-T-E-I-N bag. Bag. That's great. Twitter and Instagram. Follow her. She's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Do you have anything else you want to plug? No, I think that's. That's it. Okay, great. You can also follow me on Twitter, Instagram, at Ray Kump. Donate to my Patreon, please. I know I was kind of being soft. Well, yeah, we're going to figure out incentives.
Starting point is 01:04:07 If you want to be a stickler, go for it. But be one of the best ones. Be one of my loyal, let's see you again. Let's, uh, Michael Ricardo. Do a call and repeat. Michael Ricardo. Benjamin Hofstetter. Benjamin Hofstetter.
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