Kump - 95 - Back To The Kump

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

Ray and Lucie discuss their new museum idea, Alec Baldwin, Joss Whedon, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Get your Kump Hand merch https://bonf...ire.com/store/kump/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi. It's a lovely week, isn't it? It's a cold week in New York. It's cold. I'm wearing...
Starting point is 00:00:29 People like to... my fashion is if I'm a who would be critiqued to like people at the Metgala men who go to the gala of balls and swim with the swans those are the men you typically hear about what they're wearing you know who they're wearing what kind of scarf they were they they put on in the bedroom things of such nature but for some reason I'm being singled out constantly with the hoodies i need more hoodies a pair you buy a good hoodie because it doesn't fall apart it's a car look i don't i don't think that those men at the mechella are that much better dressed than you no i mean if anything there's two tuxedos i mean you try you try picking up a bunch
Starting point is 00:01:17 of wood in a tuxedo you see what happens it's disgusting uh but you know maybe you could have but, you know, a splash of color in the hoodie is it probably wouldn't hurt. Like, I like to be neutral toned. I like to be earth-toned. I like to be like my Batman. Why can't I dress like Batman? But in my own way.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Like I'm not going to wear a bat head or whether he has like a helmet or a towel. He calls it a cowl. Well, how would you feel if I, like if I... What if I stopped a raping this hoodie? Everyone would stop, would start going like, wait a minute. oh we were we were the the wrong ones the chosen not not the chosen ones well then the hoodie should be in a museum yeah and you should get a new one I really think everyone's
Starting point is 00:02:08 every rape that gets per is that how is that how infrequently rapes get prevented that like yeah they would just put some guy stopped a rape and he's wearing this they should have they should have a could have been a rape museum wow well let's think about this there could have been a Rape. Museum. Museum of artifacts. Okay. So it's stuff that's been donated either by women who were in the process of being brutally raped or still brutalized perhaps. Who maybe stabbed their rapist to death. Okay. Okay. And then, you know, they get some of the, some of his blood on herself. And so, you know, you have the blood stain. Where she's dead? No, no, no. She stabs the guy. I just got really depressed because I thought this is some kind of advice that we give to rape the women.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Look, look, you're probably going to die. But if you can't, if you have a knife, oh, we can defend her. Ourselves, well, no. But you can stab him, get a little bit of blood on your body of his blood. Yeah. And maybe they'll catch him with the cops. Care, but they won't. But she stabs him.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Some of the blood gets on her, you know, sundress. And the sundress goes in the museum. like it right but is she alive to like take her kids take her kids and show him why wouldn't she be alive look kids this is the dress I was wearing when your father got you know you got really drunk and and you know how he is um this was a darker time he's gotten better since then you know a darker time oh you think they split up they might split up your father is why I left your father
Starting point is 00:03:54 yeah um the attorneys you were picturing some random man in a pantyho uh like you know coming after a woman but that's not it's often not that
Starting point is 00:04:05 so it's someone you know so I'm being very you know feminist here in my that's true that's true exactly but uh what kind of artifacts are we're going to find it we're going to find like also like the rapist artifacts your hoodie
Starting point is 00:04:20 no no this is this is about that this is that could have been a rape right right but what if like what if it was like a cosby's the rapist clothes go in the rapist museum what if they found a bunch of roof and all like whatever cosby used quailudes so like some like some like it's like a old quailute container they found hidden in his jerk offshore of his closet of his dresser where it's just a bunch of porn and like you know quailudes and i feel like they would just put those in some hollywood museum but plant hollywood that's probably where it goes yeah yeah It goes to Planet Alpha.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Next to Jaws, and I'm assuming, Bruce Willis's, what does he have? Tank top? Yeah. Die hard. Right. He always seems to be wearing a dumb bomber jacket. Well, he was in the 90s in the 2000s, at least. I don't know how he, you try to make that iconic, but he should be wearing a bib.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'll tell you that much. I like him now. So can you think of any famous, like, thing? you like what's the draw of this museum well it could be educational no no no i mean like what's the like when you go to this syssonian celebrate heroes when you go to this mishonian you're like we got to see archie bunker's chair and the ruby slippers and the and you know and the gorilla from king kong the dead gorilla that they used to film king con so what would be in i would imagine that there could have been a rape museum of historical artifacts, would have sort of the same draw, the same
Starting point is 00:05:52 audience as like a firefighter museum, you know, an old firehouse that's been converted into a museum. This is where we go to- So you're saying Anderson Cooper is going to turn the rape museum into his house? Yes. Okay. That's what he does. He lives in abandoned firehouses.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. But I digress. But I think you're missing the point. Right. I just, Archie Bunker's chair, Ruby slippers. What are the key items that, like, oh, we have, look, we can. I can't not go to the used to be a rape museum. It was called when we go to the, where's it going to be Detroit?
Starting point is 00:06:26 In the badlands of Detroit? Like we can't, where to be, Orlando, Florida? Like, I know you want to go to Disney World for three days, but we're going to do two and a half because we need, I got to see this exhibit at the used to be a rape museum. So what is that exhibit? Is there any? Not a used to be a rape museum.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That could have been a rapist. Could have been a rapist. Different, yeah. Well, look, it's not really, realistically, the museum's not really going to pop off until we get a really famous anti-rapist vigilante. Like me. Like you.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Sure. But has no one ever prevented a rape before? Well, I don't think anyone's... Or not even prevented. I'm sure they have. I don't think anyone's ever prevented, like a string of rapes that they'd be famous for. If I'm the president of the could have been a rape museum.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I might have to like I know it's about like glorifying women who didn't get raped but we might have to throw a couple because there's no famous versions of that I can think of and you've brainstormed I mean you're my head of marketing you brainstormed we might have to include a couple I don't want to say successful rates but whatever the term is you know finished rape artifacts Like, are there famous rapes in history that, like, weren't prevented? See, I don't, the thing is, I don't know that you really want to be like, those would be like Confederate statues, kind of.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That would have the same feeling as, like, a monument to Jefferson Davis. Well, look, I mean, look, but you could have, I think there are museums that would, like, showcase the Confederacy. Sure. You just don't want to put it in the park. I'm not asking to put, like, a, like, a rape bandana, like a rapist bandana, like, lucky manana of a rapist into like you know um central park in new york city that would be crazy i'm talking about having but like we need to i did jack did ripper do any raping jack the rick i
Starting point is 00:08:31 actually i'm not sure did he rape or did he just kill i feel i feel like he did these surgical killing he was a gore guy yeah Al Gore that's what I call him Al Gore I think we gotta stop saying that word because you know YouTube the algorithm's got to hit you know we're gonna get hit hard I mean we don't monetize whatever
Starting point is 00:08:54 but like you know we'll just call it what's the word we should use in place because we're gonna keep talking about this dandelion so what are some famous dandy lines in history that we could like you know that like with Cleopat Was any empress ever?
Starting point is 00:09:10 None, it seems crazy. Well, now it just seems like you want to make a museum dedicated to like powerful women who were taken down a peg. Like that's not the intention. That's not the intention. What, like, I don't know what to say. I mean, I'm Harvey Weinstein. Maybe we'll get like, Winif Paltro to like, to donate one of her candles that smells. I don't want to put the image of everyone's head
Starting point is 00:09:40 But like one of her group things Maybe a group will sponsor it And we'll do a Harvey Weinstein wing And it'll just be his like weird Like mittens that cover his like animal hands And you know His towel from his massage Even massage table
Starting point is 00:10:00 We're approaching that point In an idea's origin Where the person with the pure intentions you know what I can't be a this is spiraling out of control this is becoming something I never intended it for it to be and at this point in our business relationship I would I would I would exit and then and then you would create the museum and I would end up suing you well fine I mean like it's a classic time for the man the person who is uh you know dare I say the shark tank boy to you know like bring some reality into the into the into this wind idea and go look we got to make money you know bill you got no one's going to lease us for free this space so we need people to come in the doors so maybe we do movie rape movie rapes there we go wait see the fact that it's like in movies there are plenty of scenes where someone
Starting point is 00:10:57 stops a rape yeah back to the future much more so than in history that well look that's sad but you know so we so it's it's a it's a it's a rape prevention slash movie memorabilia museum now we're cooking and we'll have Michael J. Fox come and he'll you know he'll do whatever you can do now I mean it's thoughts and prayers
Starting point is 00:11:20 of Michael J. Fox I don't even want to make jokes about his situation it's so horrible I mean he might be happy so I don't want to make him feel bad I think he wrote a book about how he's happy all right well I mean you know that's great it's he deserves he deserves for some of my nervous
Starting point is 00:11:36 system to be ripped out of my body and given to him he's great was he is he is so famously and publicly happy that kind of enraging how good is your life what you go to his house is just like covered in like um like weird massage balls yeah like he like as he moves he moves around a lot as he moves around he's like he doesn't like i picture it's like a like a car wash but with massagers and he just roams around his house and he's just roams around his house moving very radically sometimes
Starting point is 00:12:11 but he's being massaged by all angles and then there's ladies and people with chocolates and he's just and people with feathers and they do things
Starting point is 00:12:19 with the feathers you know yeah just crazy stuff I wonder and maybe this is out of line yeah but I wonder
Starting point is 00:12:25 if other people's if other people with Parkinson's like kind of hate him you have to yeah I mean he's most people
Starting point is 00:12:32 of Parkinson I think most people are kind of unhappy anyway we're not happy you know people in this country and so if you have parking i mean yeah sure maybe it focuses you because it's like it makes you focus on the things you like but like you got to hate you got to be
Starting point is 00:12:51 screaming at the tv go why am i doctor fuck me my dog i have the worst doctors why couldn't they fixed it ah like you can blame god if you want but i blame the doctor i mean you know there's no cure what you've been doing this whole time you're playing golf i thought you're a parkinson doctor what's a parkinson that's gotta be a weird thing if you're a parkinson guy no sure it's like you just like it's like i'm gonna get to a field that like all i do is tell people is something they can do which is probably not true there's probably things you can do yeah i mean is there anything we can do about parkinson i don't know i mean if anyway if i if anyone could do anything it'd be michael shrey fox
Starting point is 00:13:37 and he seems to be getting worse I mean so I don't know I mean so maybe my point stands that like they're there I mean do you go to a special doctor when you have Parkinson's a specialist I think so I'm a part because I always wonder what kind of guy
Starting point is 00:13:54 for instance becomes a gynecologist it's a weird move it's just like you know especially especially back in the day like what is it lucrative like whatever I don't know but like what kind guy, but I'm going to be the Parkinson guy. And your whole gimmick is just like,
Starting point is 00:14:12 you tell people are going to die. Where it's not lethal, is it? See, I shouldn't be talking about medicine. You tell people it's going to get worse and then you go play golf. That's how sick this country is. I mean, I think it does kill you eventually. I mean, I think.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Maybe. I don't know if it like directly kills you or if, you know. Why can't we fix this, Lucy? I don't know. Why can't we fix anything in this country? what if we should we do a telethon for Parkinson's
Starting point is 00:14:43 for Michael J. Fox just for him I want the money to go to him if he wants to give it away someone else is his business but I don't I don't want to like I don't want to have to feather out
Starting point is 00:14:54 who's a faker or not now I know who would fake that plenty of people what are you talking about I would I haven't but I mean you know it's like people I can see the people jumping on me who would fake having a disease to get
Starting point is 00:15:07 money like all of my neighbors in this building everyone who makes noise in my hallway right when they're them and their friends are just like going to the elevator and just giggling and fucking punching each other be adults those people were fake parkinson's right so i don't want to deal with that so you just want to give it to michael j5 that's the only person we don't for sure has he definitely has 100% you know this is great because michael j fox being him probably has some kind of foundation called like the michael j fox foundation that like benefits people with parkinson's but we'll create our own michael j fox foundation that's just for helping michael j fox yeah he's giving all his money away we want to give a little back to him
Starting point is 00:15:54 yeah and we'll maybe we'll just like we'll get we'll collect this money and then we'll buy him like a nice replica of the DeLorean from like a die cast replica of the DeLorean back to the future I mean it's like super expensive but he's like not
Starting point is 00:16:16 like he wouldn't give a shit he's like he's we call 10 grand how insulted would he be we if we we so we call our foundation and Teladon
Starting point is 00:16:29 it's called the Ray and Lucy Michael J. Fox Parkinson Foundation. And so it's Ray and Luzi, MyVossoe, Foundation, Telethon, right? And we tell him about this. And we're building this up.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And he says, like, it sounds weird in his head. Why, like, why is it named this? These guys are fucking, this guy smells weird. But, like, he's like, oh, he collected money? We collected five grand from our Michael J. Fox Parkinson's Foundation. And we bought you this die cast aluminum
Starting point is 00:17:01 fucking fucking replica I'm the salarian and we'd be so fucking dumb he would be so sick to his stomach we immediately okay we get a picture with you and we have his guy come
Starting point is 00:17:24 we hire a professional photographer and like it's not us but like he's we tell him to do this But he's, like, asking, like, he's getting all these different variations. Like, it's not a quick thing. Like, when I took a picture of my boss of Donald Trump back years and years ago, you know, before he was president, of course, I was very quick. Shot, shot.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Two shots. This guy's going to have been an elaborate, we do poses with us. He's going to be asking, oh, all right, now can you, like, can you and Ray hold Lucy? Like, you know, and she's laying down, like, her, you know, fist under her cheek. Like, also, I remember, we're sitting. They're going, we don't know why he's doing this. We don't know why. It's a good movie, though.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Back to the future. Yeah, it's great. So is that, does Lorraine going to be in her? Could have been a, could have been a Dandelion Museum, whatever it's called? Why not? Yeah. Because some of the money from the Michael J. Fox, the Lucy and Ray Michael J. Fox, Parkinson's Foundation.
Starting point is 00:18:30 may end up being embezzled to go towards the Could have been a rape Museum of Historical Artifacts I can picture myself in front of Congress I don't know why it's been escalated this far to Congress but Senator Dodd you don't understand This was about rape
Starting point is 00:18:48 It was about honoring women Who had to wear with all To stab their rapist a little bit And get some of his blood on them Just to get clues To get clues So that was fun Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:09 Well have we gone to that Was this number we're talking about? I don't remember That was a really long tangent That went a lot a lot of places Yeah What we got going on Alec Baldwin is being sued
Starting point is 00:19:23 Oh Now what do you think that's about Is he being sued over the over shooting that woman no that's what i would have thought too i would have thought he's being sued by the woman where is it i'm trying to bring it up sir i thought i have a new thing going on with the with the screen and i'm trying to be all efficient it's all multi-task screen and i can't find the picture of dumb alec baldwin doesn't matter uh we'll just find it here josh alec ballwin being sued by Marine
Starting point is 00:20:00 here we go by a Marine uh yes marine why look I look he's being sued by a Marine for not murdering enough this is kind of because it's weird I assumed it was just Fox News uh because um you know
Starting point is 00:20:21 that's what came up on the Apple News was Fox News and I was like oh they tend to kind of get little you know a little juicy with the with the headlines but everyone's citing the Marines. Oh, he's the brother of the Marine. So the family of a Marine killed in Afghanistan. Now, I know
Starting point is 00:20:37 you're thinking. When was Alec Ballwood in Afghanistan? He's filming a movie called Rusty Kabul. It's Rust 2 Sea and Kabul motherfucker motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And he hired a Marine to be his DP, is director of photography but he shot him anyway so apparently uh there's a woman i think and baldwin after mccullum's death baldwin found one of the marine sisters royce on instagram and sent her a check wait well hold on i'm gonna read this whole fucking this is we're all over the place why i'm at least let me read this the family of a marine killed in afghanistan during the biden administration's chaotic troop withdrawal has sued
Starting point is 00:21:28 Alec Baldwin for defamation, claiming the actor falsely accused the serviceman's grieving relatives of being insurrectionists. But it's a weird, it's a weird way to go. It's a weird I can't see how you would get to that point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Riley McCollum, 20 of Wyoming was one of 13 U.S. service members killed in the August 26 bombing outside the Abbey Gate of Hamid Karzai International Airport. after McCollum's death, Baldwin found one. I started reading this before and didn't make any sense. It still doesn't.
Starting point is 00:22:03 As to McCollum's death, Baldwin found one of the Marine sisters, Royce, on Instagram, and sent her a check for five grand for his widow, Gianna Creighton, and her newborn. The actor told Royce that a check with a tribute to a fallen soldier, but then this month, Baldwin accused Royce of taking part in last year's riots in the nation's capital and called her an insurrectionist
Starting point is 00:22:29 after she posted a photo on Instagram that she took on January 6th, 2021 as a Washington monument. What's going on? What the fuck? I don't know. So. This is like three different stories just mush together.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I think he just happened to send her a check. Maybe. So it was just a coincidence. Like that before he had sent this woman a check for her sister's dead husband. maybe right like probably she posted the image on her page on January 1st ahead the one year anniversary of the invasion of the Capitol Royce who attended a demonstration in support of Trump
Starting point is 00:23:07 was not involved in the riots and was never accused of crimes during the mayhem oh wait wait hold hold hold on neither Creighton or McCollum's other sisters Cheyenne were reportedly at the Capitol on the day of the riots oh quote quote this is this is a hold on so it was it might have been no it wasn't a coincidence or maybe it was so he gave his money right yeah five grand is this lady right for her dead husband uh and a year later i guess he happens upon her uh page and sees his picture she posts and writes are you the same woman i sent the money for your sister's husband who has killed journey afghanistan exit paul reportedly wrote
Starting point is 00:23:53 on Royce's Instagram when I sent the money for your late brother out of real respect
Starting point is 00:23:59 for his service to this country I didn't know you were a January
Starting point is 00:24:03 6th Ryan oh God what was fucking let's dick I'm Baldwin
Starting point is 00:24:12 is fucking insane oh also also you know even though the comment says
Starting point is 00:24:21 are you the same person I gave that money to you know he's just like stalking this woman's instagram going what is she doing with that money i gave her i love the idea he didn't just randomly come across her page i love what i love the idea that he's asking though like hey it's like what the thing to ask are you that fucking woman someone's capital right whatever this picture is are you that woman gave the money for your brother's sisters marines have killed uh and now you're i didn't know you were
Starting point is 00:24:53 We're a capital rioter. What the fuck? What if it's not her? The sister pushed back at the actor telling him that protesting is legal in the U.S. That she had already been interviewed by the FBI. Quote, your activities resulted in the unlawful destruction of government property, the death of a law enforcement officer, an assault on the certification of the presidential election. I reposted your photo
Starting point is 00:25:24 Good luck Baldwin wrote back According to the lawsuit I mean he just killed a woman like two months ago Didn't he? Yes What is he doing? Oh my God
Starting point is 00:25:36 I mean Is your life changed forever You're that bitch I gave money to You're ungrateful horror Are you a capital girl What the fuck I think this is him She's like I hope
Starting point is 00:25:50 They deserve to win this is like crazy to me the most logical explanation for this is that the worst kind of started to dry up after he shot and killed a woman and and the work and he's now tracking down every penny he gave away look if you were i want my money back you capital rioting bitch that money was for burying your your your your your jarhead husband if you didn't put him in the ground i want it back like what they think what i mean is he is he does he give people money and then follow them on this like instagram does he like donate money to people and treat them like an ant for him i think he remembers every penny he gives
Starting point is 00:26:41 away but he like does he probably has a list like i don't have one but you like i don't have one but i sometimes get added to lists like funny people or fast that fucks whatever you know and like and so like they exist so he must have lists where it's just like people I paid and it's just and he probably like feels good back because he knows he's a weird like a he's a weird like when he wants to like feel good about himself yeah he like looks at the people who like he was look at this look at this little kid in a wheelchair he looks at the lives i've changed yeah give you in a wheelchair 200 bucks and he fucking and he's scrolling to his personalized feed he might have a separate phone for
Starting point is 00:27:26 it people like all this is happy is happy times phone it's good feelings phone he pulls it out and he opens the instagram and like it's just all the the the cripples and the and the and the handicapped and the people were purgages i paid off and all and the and the wives of soldiers let's see how you I gave life to all of you. He's just scrolling over his phone. And he sees his woman at the Capitol of riot. I mean, he's drunk, by the way. No, he probably regularly rages out at at least one person he's given money to, like, once a year.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And this is just the first time we've heard of it. Do you call her an ungrateful pig? Yeah, these are all just his daughter to him. He thinks he's his daughter's friend somehow. He doesn't realize He thinks Instagram is just like pictures From the phone calls I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:22 No he doesn't I don't know I mean I I mean how long How furiously was he waiting After he shot that woman And then Did a press count
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like a not press conference Like a what do you call those things It's hit down an interview Yeah But who was it? Do you remember? Was it Chris Wallace or something That doesn't sound right
Starting point is 00:28:45 Papilla Riley Whoever it was Doesn't matter Wasn't it Cooper Oh maybe Oh no George Stephanopoulos Yes Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yes the man you hid Clinton's lies Yeah And then he just And credit to everyone Who said he was a faker I would tell some judgment At the time Because like look
Starting point is 00:29:10 You kill a woman You're probably not happy about it Now I don't know now i just this is this is this is a this is uh he's just he couldn't whatever have you seen like that video he did with the splendor packet no what we're talking about i keep seeing it everywhere but i actually haven't watched it yet let me let me find it let me so i can it's on youtube i think i have it here let me just let me bring it up here so
Starting point is 00:29:44 what the but yeah man was this real i think so yeah but yeah killing someone fucks with you i guess how is this work i went to my man's house not david's house this morning he came out with his daughter uh was dear friends with my daughter carman and And he had a very unusual countenance to him. And he and his daughter proceeded to tell me a story that their neighbor, who lives two doors down from them,
Starting point is 00:30:26 went to a store at a takeout food place, organic crush out east here. And the woman who's their neighbor, she found this. he's holding up a splendor packet is there something written on it she found who is this for? She found the splendor packet
Starting point is 00:30:59 what is going on? You are 100% true thanks for the laughs good sir cheers to a new year love you it's Oh The Splendipacket
Starting point is 00:31:16 Okay So someone In 2020 is going to be a good year So some fan Wrote him a note on a Splendipacket Yeah He's posting this to the world Hey he claims
Starting point is 00:31:29 Look I know you people think I shot someone Who I knew For no good reason And then I went after this woman Who's a widow of a soul
Starting point is 00:31:43 because I think she might have been at the Capitol. I gave her money. I don't know what's going on. But look at this. Look at this one in the packet. Why? This guy, I mean, he's proven he can kill people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And he's this crazy. He probably shouldn't be on the streets. No. Why? I mean, this is the problem with the prison carcarsal system in America. to Alec Boll and his last just roam free He's gonna kill it
Starting point is 00:32:15 I mean I'm not Is my opinion that he he could kill again Oh yeah I don't know you know I don't get very litigious With the women he donated money to So I'm gonna be careful
Starting point is 00:32:27 Can't he see things out of the capital right Uh No this is a mad man This is this is this is Can we get him on the show? Oh We should try What would be the first?
Starting point is 00:32:41 first thing you'd say to him. I go, well, we'll get to, Alec, can I call you Alec? Is that really, or is it Alex? I mean, I would probably say, is it Alex Baldwin or Alec Baldwin? It's Alec. Okay. I was asking that, though. You must know that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But you get me up, Bowler. Mr. Bolman, thank you for coming. It's good to be here. Can I call you Alex? Why would you be able to call me Alex? Well, I mean, look, I know you're a Hollywood star, but it's a completely different name. The podcast is kind of an informal medium. I thought we could, you know, talk.
Starting point is 00:33:18 If you were talking to Alex Trebek, first name basis, you know. If you were talking to Alex Trebek, would you ask him if you could call him Alec Trebek? I don't understand. I'm just asking to use your first name. But my first name is Alec. It's very well documented. Alec? Alec?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like, I've heard Alex before. Yes, yes, it's Alec. I've heard Alex before. I've never heard Alex. Are you sure? sure is that a nickname is that a nickname that like you're named Alex but like they call you Alec like you know because you're I assure you yeah cowlick there are many Alex in this in the world and I'm and I'm one of them name of one of them one of the Alec name one more Alec Guinness
Starting point is 00:33:57 never heard of them don't know who that is thinking making them up are you just are you're that just a beer you like anyway why do you shoot that woman well she She was a bitch. Yeah. All right. I'll see you later. One times. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:34:29 We, I guess we'll talk about this Batman. We have. Let me see this. Can you hand me to this Batman? The definition of Batman's are getting kind of loose here. Well, you might think that. What do you?
Starting point is 00:34:40 think you were asking me before what is this what what is this did i say it like that i mean just like a shrew no why i don't mean to me in my head is what is this i picture is more like legitimate anger like what is you asked me why don't you have more buddy what is to be fair i think you ask like is that is that Batman but i i interpreted that as like you're buying other shit now But it's not. It's a, it's, what do you think he looks like? Um, I thought maybe it was, uh, I know there was a character named Doomsday. I thought maybe it's Doomsday.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yes, there's a character called Doomsday. This is not him. This is from the, uh, death metal, I think, or metal. Dark Knight's metal. This is the destroyer Batman. Oh, so that is a Batman? Yes. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:35:37 100% of Batman. This is, remember those old, all the various variant. batman's this one is bat bruce wayne uh i forget what prompted it maybe the joker but he splices doomed his dna into himself and becomes this uh to help solve the world's most complex crimes i guess uh in his alternate world so the you know the world's greatest detective uh needed to you know enhance his detection ability wow well he looks pretty cool he was hard to stand up um i like it because it seems like of all the things batman does as a billionaire it's like the most jeff bezos thing you could think of
Starting point is 00:36:23 you know like like after he gets a second like another divorce he's gonna be in his wife like you know he's fucking just making a uh a stamp pad out of a pussy for lino decaprio you're about that what there's that picture or interaction or the like There was a video on Twitter like months ago where they were at some party. And she and she's just fucking gushing over Leo. Like you can just tell how moist her tasty cakes were. Wait, wait, at moist, whose wife was? Jeff Bezos was his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Oh, oh. And you could tell he was just enraged. And, uh, and like I feel like this is what I mean, this is a famous thing. You can look it up. Um, it's, you know. Wow. Yeah. Uh, so I feel like this is like, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Honestly, that's weirdly like wholesome to me. Like, just because I imagine any woman who ends up with Jeff Bezos is kind of like a, you know, I picture, you know, a super villainy type woman. Yeah. But it's like, it feels very human that she would just like be gushing over Leonardo Cabr. Yeah, I guess I guess the socialist on Twitter just ran with it because they feel like that that was a win. Like, we got them, boys. His wife wants to fuck Leo. His wife wants to fuck another multimillionaire.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. Well, not another. he's would you do you think he's attractive later on the caprio like of course he is yeah I think it looks like a mouse like he looks like a fucking
Starting point is 00:37:49 like a nice mouse like a handsome mouse um no I guess I guess he's good look yeah I mean he doesn't look it's gonna sound phony but like he doesn't really do anything for me
Starting point is 00:38:05 well good because he would never date you because you're not 19 but he's he only days 19 to 21 year olds a good thing he doesn't do anything for you well I mean look you were 19 in the one but not that long ago
Starting point is 00:38:19 I've been like it's it's more slight of him because like why can't you you wouldn't bang CJ Craig from the from the West Wing I think he has banged a 24 year old but that's probably Is that true that's crazy of true that's probably when he was his age now
Starting point is 00:38:36 so that's probably when he was 14 teen on growing pain i still would would have missed the cutoff but i mean look the guy the guy is uh what they call him a libertine is it still a libertine if like you're you're fucking younger people but you're older you still are you a libertine also i feel like that's who libertine was invented no it's been to i think young people who just fuck a lot like young maybe you might be right but like i picture leer de caprio showing up like you know was like 50 now he's like showing up to like the Riviera be a Hey, I'm a
Starting point is 00:39:09 Libertine. Let me suck off your tits. I don't I think that, yeah, it's just like, that's just, you don't need a category for that. It's just. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just, I'm, what do you think he calls himself?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Like, what he calls himself? I'm the wet cheetah. That's what he says. Yeah. You know, like some people like to call himself on a panther, I'm a wolf. He's like, I'm a wet cheetah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 He just says that. Like, he says that. He whispers that in the woman's ear when he's like in a bar. You know what they call me? I'm the wet cheetah. And like, and she's disgusted. She's like, this is bizarre,
Starting point is 00:39:53 but I'm still gonna, like, yeah, how sex of him? Like, he's leaving on on DiCaprio. He crawled into a bear. He crawled inside of a bear. Yeah. You know about that, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Like, you, how can you die of sex with someone? who crawled inside of a bear. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Imagine if you, wouldn't it be great? I mean, you think he has the bear and he has sex with these young women inside the bear? That would be crazy. You think he saves it?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Look, I mean, he might not need props yet. But he's getting there. He's starting to look. I saw a picture of him and was starting to look like, you know, his buddy from the departed, Nicholson. Because Nicholson, yeah, look, he's still charismatic, but he's a weird looking. guy leo my guy weird looking and he's going to need to have that prop like when he wants to bang
Starting point is 00:40:42 19 year olds in his 70s he's going to have the bear the bear skin the bear the bear carcass and he's got to remember the reverend and she's going to know I'm 19 in the year of 2016 or whatever I don't know what the reverend is I want to ask you for
Starting point is 00:40:57 sweet hot why don't you read a history book or two I'm like okay that's why would that be in a history book The history of men Of cheetahs Wet cheetahs
Starting point is 00:41:14 Wet cheetahs What cheetahs Uh Anyway, I crawled inside of a bear I got Dead bear I crawled inside of his real bear I think
Starting point is 00:41:26 I don't remember if it was real or not Was it a real bear? I think it was a real dead bear And he crawled inside I mean it's only a story If it's a real bear. If it's a prop, then he's just climbing inside of a prop. True. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:40 You want you to go on a fake bear, you bitch. You fucking scoos. You for scoos? You don't think I need you. I can get a million. I got my lines out of the block. Who want to have sex with my bear cars?
Starting point is 00:41:57 See you later. Tuts. Anyway, want to go home with me? That's probably like Leonardo DiCaprio. At his sexiest. Me? Doing it?
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you first. And then after that, him and the Revenant. You did it was just, he's all strung out
Starting point is 00:42:15 and, like, and confused the whole time. Yeah, but I like that. I mean, look, I get strung out
Starting point is 00:42:20 like the departed where he's just, like, gnawing on his, like. The departed, too, yeah. Okay, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:25 it's weird for, honestly, like sometimes I forget like what a little angel baby he was. Yeah. Like, he was adorable.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Yeah. I mean, can you imagine? You think a 19-year-old girl looks at that picture. And girls, I can't believe that guy made me do an anal and a bear carcass in a year, 2016. And someone's like, made you. I mean, no, I don't want to go that far. He just, but, you know, I didn't want to, per se, but I wanted to, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It was a bear. I felt like weird. Does a bear carcass polon? in the museum? You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, sure. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I don't accuse him of that. I think he's all consensual. Yeah, I mean, sure. Consensual bears. Look, if you can call that consent, if you can call it, if you,
Starting point is 00:43:24 do you think a bear carcass is such a erotic thing? The inside of a bear and the prospect of having sex of it is so erotic that you couldn't really call that consent, like you, like, if you're inside of a bear, if you're inside of a bear carcass, you legally can't consent.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Right. That should be a rule. Because you can't resist the pheromones. There's so, look, the pheromones. The pheromones might as well be MK. Ultra drugs. Yeah. That's how potent. It's just like, they're, like, they're bare pheromones.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And you're just, and you're just like sitting next to its glands, sucking them in. You're probably going to have brain damage. Yeah. From all those glands and these secretions. poisons if you will so that's the Batman I'll move back over here I love Batman
Starting point is 00:44:14 we have you're a fan of vampires right well I'm a fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer right but you like all sorts of I'm not going to eat up any old vampire shit
Starting point is 00:44:30 but I like Buffy you like teenage vampires well not there's a lot of teenage vampires young sexy vampires i'm not a fan of like the vampire diaries but yeah it's a vampire diaries buffy is a classic show what's a vampire diary it's like a soap opera with vampires like isn't that what buffy is no buffy is a very like rich layered show i don't know about that i mean there's there's there's a bunch of okay i mean we watch the season of it uh it's fine this guy just excuse me my throat's getting drunk This man, Joss Whedon.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Is it Whedon or Weddon? Joss Whedon. Joss Whedon, the unfolding. I thought this happened like two years ago or three years ago. This whole Joss Whedon being canceled thing. But this caught my eye. This is article that was on the Apple News from, I think, Vanity Fair. And this is the cover.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It's the undoing of Joss Whedon. see that and he's got he's posing the way like a 15 year old boy tries to pose to look good in his school picture like when his mother gets him like just private school pictures and like the and the and the fat photographer comes around and like you know poses him to look like you know he thinks he looks like a badass but just looks like a fucking ash kosh kosh kid that's what he looks like here my point is he thinks he's like did he think this was going to be a good article when he posts for this picture like why is I mean he's scowling at the camera this is so weird because there's an article about his I'm going to go through it because I haven't really read it but he's scowling at the camera
Starting point is 00:46:17 right and it's like well if you know it's an article about how you're a creep why are you scowling why you giving us that an image but if he didn't know like uh he just think it was cool like this is my thoughtful contemplative thing but we're going to talk about how you know all those women were liars and then they just they just totally didn't do that well did they take this picture of them i mean is that stock photo would you do that i mean i guess you could i guess i could be falling for like this could just be some stock photo but like it seems like when you have a big spread right right like this is kind of a picture you would see yeah well these are these do look like pictures they took of them actually yeah the undoing of joss whedon maybe this is a puff
Starting point is 00:47:08 piece maybe this is a coming back story maybe he's gonna maybe his article could be about how they're all liars i mean according to him right the undoing of joss whedon the buffy creator once an icon of hollywood feminism is that true and i kind of kind for what because he he made black widow date uh the hulk it's because like he okay like with Buffy, like, there is, like, a lot of short skirts. I'll tell you that much. Look, there are short skirts, but there is, like, a very feminist core to the show, which there isn't, and you, when you railroading me like this.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Sorry. That's funny loud, though. It's more feminist than this interaction so far. That's, but it's, but it's a funny line. Who is that? What? You know, it's feminist? Having a great point.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Pussy. Anyway, sorry. Look, there are a lot of, there's sex appeal in the show. Nobody would deny that. Right. But, you know, there's a feminist core to it. Like, Buffy is very three-dimensional. You know, she's, you know, she doesn't end up with a man.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Ever? You know, she's entangled in several little love triangles, but she never ends up with anybody. That just seems like sad. Yeah, but it's not, it's out of choice, you know? because she chooses her destiny over the uh she's supposed to be celibate to fight vampires well not necessarily celibate but like you don't necessarily want to be like dating a vampire are our slayers are slayers not allowed to take the pill that's why she doesn't like fuck around oh they not to take birth control i mean i think they are okay but they
Starting point is 00:48:58 now i'm now i'm picturing some kind of like 1950s puritanical thing going on. Look, there might be some weird ceremony where they produce another slayer under duress. I don't know what you can have a boyfriend. What I'm saying? But whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Doesn't have feminist. I think feminism is letting women have boyfriends. It compromises her judgment. Yeah. Well, that doesn't seem feminist. You can't go near a man without having you without going old ditsy doodle. Buffy is a greatest vampire slay
Starting point is 00:49:31 I've ever seen, but when you get a whip for some you go right out of the window. You're totally useless, baby. You got to keep you away from the quack. So first of things,
Starting point is 00:49:54 once an icon of Hollywood feminism is now an outcast accused of misogyny. How did he get here? He did stuff the women. But anyway, in the fall of O2, 100s... Why are you right like this? I just want to get to the meet.
Starting point is 00:50:11 This is in the medieval city conference, blah, blah, blah. It wasn't just scholars who worshipped him in those days. He was a celebrity showrunner before anyone cared who ran shows. In 2007 5, the comic artist, Scott O'Kertz designed a shirt that gesture that Whedon's statue in popular culture. Josh Sweden is my master now This is really overblown I don't think he was ever this
Starting point is 00:50:37 He was the fucking weird turd When you when you showed up at like Comic Con Like there'd be six fat guys Uh they'd be like I'm Jasmine Hello And like he and there'd be some girl And like dressed up like
Starting point is 00:50:53 What was it in 2000s? Like some girl dressed up like Balma from Dragon Bowl Z some shit he was like yeah kind of attractive perfectly attractive I'm not trying to shit
Starting point is 00:51:05 but you know but he's he's not going after Kate Upton right or Leonardo DiCaprio no he wasn't a guy like even the Buffy thing it's like it's
Starting point is 00:51:14 look there are enough people who are into it but like nobody really instantly respects it or anything no it's one of those things that's surprisingly respectable like it's like
Starting point is 00:51:25 when you go back and look at it I look hey just you're that guy makes the vampire show, right? I'm Martin Scorsese. You know, I thought you were just a piece of shit a third loser who didn't have any balls
Starting point is 00:51:40 and your show was useless but I had it on the hotel room because my granddaughter, who's mentally handicapped, was watching it. And I thought for something designed for mentally handicapped little girls like my granddaughter, this is
Starting point is 00:51:56 that's all right. Anyway. that's how Scorsese sounds as well um do you think Scorsese would like Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Starting point is 00:52:08 no I'm saying he thinks it's nice that he has a slight reprieve from having to like fall I mean he doesn't want to take care of his granddaughter
Starting point is 00:52:20 who happens to be handicapped but it's just more like but like he wants a little bit he wants to check his phone every once in a while so like he plops her in front of the TV and like it grabs your attention And the men with the teeth.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's just the teeth. Yeah, the men with this pointy teeth. She doesn't know that they're vampires. They're just like. They're pointy. They're just men with teeth that really focus her in for some reason. Just draws her in and he's short, short skirts. They were soon joined by Charisma Carpenter who played Cordelia.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That's exactly who I was thinking of. That Cordelia girl who he does stuff to in real life. well he doesn't yeah basically that's part of the story that I knew before this article but she was always wearing very short skirts and Buffy yeah I don't
Starting point is 00:53:10 I only remember that because I was like oh that's the girl that he tried to like punch the baby out of her what do you do he tried to make her get an abortion he tried to he uprated her for getting some tattoo of a rose or something you got madge guy
Starting point is 00:53:28 a tattoo of a rose? Yeah, you like berated her for getting a rose tattoo. You fuck, I can't believe you. Caligula. What's your name? Collicula. What's her name? Cardelia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Hey, Cordelia. We're not filming. Could you just call me charisma, whatever? We're not filming. Wait, wait, wait. Your real name is charisma? Cordelia is a fake name? Why didn't you catch that?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Why are you fucking named charisma? Carisma Carpenter? What kind of, I believe her. But what kind of fucking name is that? Charisma. Oh, God. I don't like that. Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Okay. Hello, charisma. Hello. I don't know. The roof was going. Yeah. What was the tattoo of a rose? What?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Why don't you get a tattoo of Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Well, why would my character have a tattoo of Buffy the Vampire Slayer? I was from out the show. I mean, unless we know that you care about the show. She doesn't even know that Buffy is a vampire slayer, so. Yeah, but no, it's a, I don't mean that. That's crazy. I'm saying, like, a tattoo of the logo of the show.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Again, like, I don't think, look. With a slight, with an airbrush-looking, of Sarah Michelle Gallagher. Look, I think that would just be, like, if people saw it, it would be a little bit meta, you know? Like, I don't think this was really a show where people have tattoos of the show logo in the show. If you ever get pregnant, you know what I'm going to do to you? I'm going to hit you in a hand with a hammer. Don't you ever get pregnant, you fucking bitch.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Soon joined by Chris McCorm. who played Cordelia and Buffy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we skip ahead a little bit? I want to see what she says. After she became pregnant, oh, go ahead. You go ahead first, so then I'll go. I just swear it's fat.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's those are going to call her fat. Heading to the Angels fourth season, he called her fat to colleagues and summits her into his office to ask, as she recalled, and she was going to keep it. She claimed he had mocked her religious beliefs, accused her of sabotaging the show, and fight her a season later when she had given birth.
Starting point is 00:55:59 He wanted to see the baby was hot. Yeah. Look, I mean, she's going to have a baby. Let's just see it first. And he saw her. He was like, I've had better. We're going to cast that baby
Starting point is 00:56:11 as a freshman in the high school. I mean, he's just, you know. It puts the baby in a short skirt. Yeah. What would you want me to skip to? Okay. I'll just read it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:25 It's a little later in the article. Honestly, like, it's like, I hate to say it because it is so cliche. And I don't think it's always true. But it is amazing, like, how often it's true that, like, you just can't trust men who identify as feminists. Oh, yeah. Like, it's like, it's amazing how often it's true. Okay, so here it says, in 2006, Equality Now presented Whedon with an award at an evening dedicated to honoring men on the front lines of feminism. I mean, you were just saying front lines.
Starting point is 00:56:56 It's so gross. Yeah. What are you talking about? In his speech, Whedon referred to his mother as extraordinary, inspirational, tough, cool,
Starting point is 00:57:08 and sexy. Wait, what? Wait, hold. Wow. Wow. Because I was about to go off just because, like,
Starting point is 00:57:19 the idea that you think you're a feminist, first of all, because of anything to do with your mother. is the most insane thing I've ever heard. Yeah. Like, you know, like, it's such a cliche response for, like, a joke character
Starting point is 00:57:33 to be like, oh, like, you, you know, how many women are you, casual, are you friends with, right? You don't have sex with. Oh, my mother. How about my mother? I can't about my mother. You know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I don't know who is. To critique myself for a second. I don't know what kind of question that is. How many women are you casually friends? I don't have sex. I don't know who's asking them. Whatever. I like to think they're asking him this question,
Starting point is 00:58:04 like, at the event, honoring men on the front lines of feminism. But, yeah, so he called his mother sexy. What's looking at her up? Was his mother sexy? Can we find this? His mother was Lee Stearns. She was an activist and unpublished.
Starting point is 00:58:25 novelist who taught history at an elite private school in the Bronx. I'm going to guess if she was hot, they probably would have published it. Yeah. There's some CD publisher out there. We try to bang hot girls. I just don't think it's normal to refer to your mother as sexy, even if she was sexy. No, of course. I mean, but like men, sometimes, but they have beautiful mothers, they call them beautiful.
Starting point is 00:58:48 No, but there is, look, there is room. Like, if I was given a speech, you know, like, you don't understand. A lot of guys talking about their mother, and they, it's their mother, and, like, they took care of them when they were young, and they nurtured them, and that's why. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about my mom. She's got this fucking, I don't know, this quality. I don't know what you call it, but it's like, you just fucking, you, her pussy smells good. You know?
Starting point is 00:59:22 It just fucking smells good. And then you start thinking about maybe, maybe I could pretend, I could wear a mask and pretend to be a salesman. You ever do that? You ever knocking on your own door of your house when you're a young man and you're wearing a weird, a mask, a bandana, and you're saying you're a, I'm a washing machine salesman. And you're trying to have sex with your mother. I'm just Sweden. I agree about his vampire slayer. very weird um weird weird guy i don't know
Starting point is 01:00:00 so what did he do though what is going on we said we have what we've heard so far is the stuff like why is there an article now let's skip to the end i i don't know i know like at first it started with uh it would be funny like he does this whole long interview where it like they pitched it to him as like you know your side of the story or whatever right and like and he's but he's like agent's like nothing good can come of this like look I haven't gotten work in a while people you know they uh they need to hear my side maybe maybe you know like sometimes these things don't stick
Starting point is 01:00:38 and you know once you hear like you know maybe these this cardalia this is this cardalia woman she uh she don't sounds so good people hear about a rose tattoo she think she's a slut you know whatever it looks good and then like you know he calls his agent the day is publish was like it's just the same shit oh fuck i mean what what did he do nothing right it's just what what look i think that's kind of the the extent of it like i don't think it gets worse than that necessarily then we do that two years ago yeah no it's a i mean is someone just out to get just beaten well i think they're trying to explain maybe like when you put it in context of like him winning awards
Starting point is 01:01:26 for being a feminist it does kind of like well you're crazy but but you know what's interesting is that like if he tried to defend himself over night now like you try to explain himself he'd like like people are to get me they publish this article two years ago no but they're republishing it
Starting point is 01:01:42 the initial thing's fine no people that was true yeah but why are they republishing it ask yourself that question um so what's your favorite episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer I like the one where Spike realizes that he... Oh, no, actually, I like the one where a Buffy's nemesis creates a bot that's in love with him. And Buffy has to destroy the bot because it starts killing people.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I like the one where I like the one where, uh, that guy just starts biting his mother's pussy I'm a vampire and then no one no one slays him that is a good one it's a home movie of just reading
Starting point is 01:02:39 yeah no it's good I mean do you feel bad watching the show now that that's you know been found out you feel guilty do you feel like he's you kind of the blame no I mean look I watched all kinds of things Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. I watch. Anyway. Look, it's a weird note to end on, the Whedon Boy. Usually we say we wish him the best. I don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I mean, I hope he doesn't like, you know, try to seduce his mother. Right. She's probably very old now. I mean, she might,
Starting point is 01:03:17 look, she might feel the same way. She might feel the same. She might feel the same way. Imagine if they got together, if, and then him and his mom, you know, started dating. Kissing. That would be a great way to end that story.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. And now he tried to prevent life. He took one pregnant woman and told her to go, fuck herself. But told us to get, dump that thing, dumped that thing in the toilet. But now he's dating the woman who's pregnant with him. Yeah. Where can people find you? They can find me on this podcast.
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