Kump - Ep. 156 A Career Low

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

Ray and Lucie discuss the Middle East, Amy Schumer, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump ...Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to cop. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Those of you out there on the YouTube video program, is YouTube a program? an application the site yeah it's a site all right
Starting point is 00:00:35 what's the difference of me a YouTube being a program on the website probably nothing it probably has to be a lot of programmers on the YouTube website
Starting point is 00:00:43 yeah it is an app yeah I'm starting a program the YouTube program you might even notice that we don't have any video on there and that's because we're still in the process
Starting point is 00:00:55 of redoing the studio and it's taken longer than expected. If people have been clamor, we have to come back and do the show on the main feed because we want this information from you. We want this insight from Ray and Lucy. And particularly about this is what you refer to Lucy as the Israeli Palestine.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I don't think that's an insane thing to call it. Maybe it's not. I mean, you... I'll put no spin on it, and then we'll let them decide in the comments if just referring to the whole situation as the Israeli Palestine makes sense. I might be wrong or right. What would you call it? Doom.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's just doom. You know, people go, what we want to know what you think. Well, a lot of people want to know what I think. I was actually, we're the reason I haven't been out here talking about it. I mean, I'm on the Patreon, but, you know, we've been, I was actually involved. in peace talks with the whole Israeli Palestine and did not go well. It was actually before the, you know, big incident happened, kind of a career low for me. What did you say to them?
Starting point is 00:02:14 I said, shut up. You shut up. You're stupid. Just fucking stop. That is a confident maneuver. Yeah. Yeah, it was. I was pretty confident.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I feel like a lot of people would like a... I was pretty confident when I said it. Yeah. Then a lot of things happened afterwards. They got less confident. They didn't appreciate your boldness. They didn't, you know, at the time, they had nothing to say. They just sat in their hands.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That's just like them. Yeah. Nothing to say in the room, but then once your back has turned, real bratty of them. Let's drag your grandma to Israel, you know, whatever. Yeah. That's right. Um, yeah, some of you get very offended by the whole situation, various ways. like who have you seen i mean people get mad that the uh the people ripping down posters in
Starting point is 00:03:01 new york city yeah what is what's with that it's in the cover of the of the post like look at these dirt bags it's not even clever anymore i don't i don't advocate me people humas yeah right i'm sorry i can do the is it wrong to not say the h sound the hamot what i can't say it i don't think you have to put the the extra mustard on it on it okay i don't want i i don't be the guy saying like mozzarella cheese yeah you know i want to be that guy that seems that seems like a lame thing to me what you mean the guys would go moussorel no i'm saying i don't i don't want that's that's that's that's i think everyone says mozzarella cheese no it's one thing to be like the idiot going like let me get some fresh
Starting point is 00:03:47 mooserelle but you don't say mazrella cheese or mozzarella you know Let me get some mozzarella, please. No, let me get some fresh mozzarella. Yeah, you got a split a difference. That's what you're supposed to do it, like in my view. You don't go, let me get some fresh mozare. No. We also go, let me get some mozzarella cheese, please.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You know? I think I was driving Lucy crazy. Lucy's like, I think every single time. Have I tapped into the new, the new comp? Lucy's going off the charts here. She's loving this. I think every time I've requested mozzarella cheese I've said it exactly like that
Starting point is 00:04:30 Can I have some mozzarella cheese? Well, you have the You have the luxury of acting like a five-year-old girl I don't want to call you that on it I can't do that I can't be like mozzarella cheese please They'll find me out in the streets They'll gut me like a pig
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'll be left with the wolves You can just be like You just wander around like your little red riding hood asking for cheese um no so in that in that sense I don't want to be the guy saying you know Hamas and it's like oh hey what are you white I think however you would say halal is how you should say
Starting point is 00:05:06 Hamas I say halal I don't say howl or much I make fun of it I can make that sound kind of kind of but I feel like if I say it's going to sound offensive I think if it hasn't been ingrained in you since you're a young child you don't have to say to make the noise
Starting point is 00:05:22 Hamas. You know, they've been learning that since they were like two. All right. Well, don't get conspiratorial here. They've been trained to be better than you. It's like great replacement theory. All right. That being said, what are we saying about the whole?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, but the posters, it's all, look, I don't, I don't like it. But also, like, like, why are you tearing it down? I mean, I guess they feel like it's propaganda. But also, like, you know the hostage zone in New York, right? Right. Like, the post is covering it as if, like, we're keeping people from, like, from seeking, like, a lost dog poster. Yeah, it's like, yeah, they're not here.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And it's not even the kind of thing that would influence, like, our government. Right. We're pretty pro-Israel here. It's not like Joe Biden is walking past them and he sees them. And he's like, maybe I should try to get the hostages back. You'll say, maybe I should, you know, lick a child's hair. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah. Reminds me, I should lick a random child's hair. And be 80. That's what I am. I'm an 80-year-old man who licks children's hair. I guess it is possible that a poster could remind Biden to deal with the house. We are that. I haven't seen posters before.
Starting point is 00:06:35 To be fair, that this doesn't happen for a while. But that might be, maybe the strategy is only there because Biden is so susceptible to wanted posters. Like, imagine Biden back in the day with those like Osama and one of dead or alive posters. Oh, right. Like you saw those were like, oh, my.
Starting point is 00:06:52 God. Hope he got him dead. I hope he's dead. Dead or alive. He got, you think he got a six-th shooter? When that happened, you think Biden in 9-11?
Starting point is 00:07:02 He's like, Jill, buy me a revolver. Buy me a cold revolver and a belt of bullets. He'd do it with a shotgun. Well, he says that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 He says, he tells his wife. He's the biggest advocate of a double-barrel shotgun. For his wife, because, you know, women can't shoot. you know, a shotgun can shoot a very, you know, wide target
Starting point is 00:07:26 compared to a little colt revolver with a belt of bullets, you know? Do you think is, I mean, I feel like Biden's wife would resent that. Yeah. She represents everything. She calls me a doctor, please. You know, so you think I can't shoot? That's why shoot your wad comes from because the shotgun is a wad. That's what gets left in the body, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Joe Biden has to be the first lady you hear the least about. Yeah, because she's just unremarkable. It's ironic because she's like calling me a doctor because there's nothing remarkable about her. That's the last thing I ever heard about her. Yeah. Is that she wanted to be called doctor? Where's her like cured of fat kid program or whatever?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. It was her eternal kid's trans. Is that her thing? Why don't you start a green bean garden? Yeah. I'd love to have her on here on the show. Yeah. My wife said about you five years ago
Starting point is 00:08:23 But we were still not The Joe Rogans of the late 2020s She said we should go I'm a vision At that point We've grown to the statue where she would come on our show Right She would never come on our show right now
Starting point is 00:08:37 It's far too few viewers I'm probably a vision situation Where we're the new Rogans Where we're the ones fucking running Austin The Austin homeless scene You think Austin You think if I invest in homeless people now i can run austin in five years invest in homeless people yeah just like
Starting point is 00:08:56 you know curry favor i mean i i i guess it's well how would you curry favor i don't know give them drugs and food and money right yeah this isn't exactly uh how do you build a space rocket but how do you imagine this investment blooming like what do you think is they become my mafia A mafia of homeless That's not a bad Idea I guess you know Someone someone's talking to me
Starting point is 00:09:27 From some oil companies Like I got 16 Vagrants who'll stab you in the eye Before sundown I'm great comp I can't walk a I can't walk a mile I see the homeless man
Starting point is 00:09:39 Who knows my name They're like your Pinkertons Yeah I mean By Pinkertons you mean Slobbs or stab people sure i mean i'm not trying i'm not i'm not a pagerden stand but i feel like they resent the comparison so we we were preeminent the preeminent trained armed armed services and you have a bunch of people who don't care about their own lives
Starting point is 00:10:09 enough to stand the president whatever yeah if you ever make this happen you should call them the new Pinkertons You're a good point I just call them Pinkertons Yeah They sue me Sue me
Starting point is 00:10:19 So a bunch of homeless guys Yeah If anyone to ask where you're from You said Pinkertons
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah Bunch of Pincertons A bunch of Pinkertons We're found shitting all over the street
Starting point is 00:10:31 today Raised Pinkertons Just washing themselves and piss I'm really I'm really sounding anything homeless
Starting point is 00:10:40 now But I would encourage this behavior I would I would bring them down not pull them up bring it under my level they're going to be so shocked when they find
Starting point is 00:10:51 that i'm not homeless we thought you were one of us like no i have a job what's up i think i give you the money and the drugs no you get out there and shower in your own piss why would we do that do what well why don't we do what oh there is that you're You know, team building. Team building. Yeah. You know, it's like trust falls. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It does seem like you need at least two people to make showering in your own piss happen because you need someone to hold the container. Container. Well, like you say like someone pisses on each other. Like one guy pisses on the other guy and he returns a favor. Well, I'm imagining that they would only want to shower in their own urine. Oh. So if I had to shower in someone's urine, I would want it to.
Starting point is 00:11:43 be mine. I mean, I got to imagine that would be a little better urine than me. Why don't want to think their urine is the best? Well, you're already on urine. Maybe you go like, no, but my urine's clean. Like, I don't think that. I don't think anyone who drinks pits should really be choosy about which piss. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, nobody said anything about drinking. You can drink a little of this. This is going to happen. You go in a shower and you go in a shower and you, like, duct tape your mouth closed? What is this? What are we doing here? We're making up stories? You're going to fake stories.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It can't happen. Of course you're going to drink a little piss. You really just don't know how piss works. Anyway, but yeah, I don't think you should take the posters down per se. Is that where it was still on? Oh, right. Yeah, the posters. The posters are useless.
Starting point is 00:12:37 The posters aren't doing anything. I mean, look, they're putting them up in the middle of New York City. I guess to get attention. Right. Like, his house is still there. But I can't do anything. I mean, you know, I can't do anything one way or the other. I can't, you know, unless you're asking me to go sign up for one of the sides.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You know what they are? Do you think the people who put the posters up have a particular side? They want you, or you just want you to just get involved. They're pro. It's kind of like rock to vote. Right. Like, we don't tell you who to vote for. I mean, the people who do rock to vote are always, it's usually.
Starting point is 00:13:13 is Democrats, though, right? Typically, or just, I mean, sometimes they do seem kind of apolitical. They seem apolitical, but they're rock to votes. They probably want you not to vote for Republicans, right? I guess they also know the people watching those ads are young, so they know they're going to vote Democrat problem. Imagine, how many Trump voters do you think rock to vote, like, have delayed impact on?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Do you think a lot of them sort of puff daddy back in the day? Now, I'm going to finally vote now. They're watching the old repeat of, Kurt Loder. Anyway, in a similar way, do you think those people who put the posters up are apolitical or do they have a besides that I want you to know it? Maybe they do.
Starting point is 00:13:52 They just want you to keep it in mind. They don't need you to have any view of it. But they want me to get a gun. I can save these old people. I mean, just to be clear, just to like get to put this in context. Like people put posters up. For a while, for months in New York City, I saw the same poster that was put up by like a guy in his 60s
Starting point is 00:14:12 that had a picture of him. saying, saying, I'm looking for a girlfriend. Really? How often did you look at this poster? I ran into it so many times. And it was like, call this number if you want, if you're interested in being my girlfriend. What happened?
Starting point is 00:14:26 When you called the number? I did it call. But that's where the hostage posters are up now. In the same place where that lonely guy looked for a girlfriend. Are they up around here? When I saw them, which this was, you know, years ago, but I was seeing them in like the Lower East Side. Which posters?
Starting point is 00:14:50 The girlfriend posters. Oh, did you see hostage posters there? No, but I'm just saying in the city. Oh, okay, yeah. I got you. These are, this is who puts posters up. Right. You do, you think the guy, you think, you think this is also so a guy can get a girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:15:04 this whole situation? I think it's the same guy. You think some guy invaded Israel just to get a girlfriend? Do you pin to that with the Moss? You think a Moss is sitting there confused? Is that what you're trying to? I mean, I'm confused, Lucy. I'm just saying this is the amount of, you know, publicity you're getting.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Okay. It's the same amount as this guy. Right. I mean, he might be doing very well for himself. We don't know. He might be. He might be a fucking, like, you know, like have a girlfriend, though. That's true.
Starting point is 00:15:31 You think someone, you think a girl would have approached that guy? I mean, maybe a girl with, like, no survival instincts. What, you think that guy would kill you? You think that guy would kill you and leave his posters up? Maybe. That's the same if it was a crazy way to kill someone. Because the police would look at the poster and be like, nobody would respond to that. She wasn't murdered by that guy.
Starting point is 00:15:47 The police are lazy. They'd probably go, that's the guy. Police would go immediately, that's the guy. The opposite's true. They would just assume they would call it the, they would call them the, they would call it the, the, um, the, um, bulls and board killer. I was like, it's not a bullden board and whatever. And what do you call those things? Like a foam
Starting point is 00:16:10 Maybe like the phone pole A phone pole killer The love I mean I feel like they call them like the lonely hard killer or something I would call I would call him the tap dance killer Kind of it sounds funny Yeah I'm surprised no one's ever used that before
Starting point is 00:16:26 The tap dance killer I would love to an engineer situation where someone gets killed I just I named the guy the tap dance killer somehow Next time a woman gets murdered Let me know I want to call the cops I'm gonna lie I would say that like a tap dancing
Starting point is 00:16:43 I heard tap dancing in the area that'll probably that'll probably derail the investigation a little bit if it might take them longer to find the dead the dead woman well I mean how often they find them
Starting point is 00:16:55 anyway? I really gonna blame me I mean I didn't help in this situation I certainly didn't help yeah how much did they hurt though 1% 2% we're gonna really blame me because a woman's like
Starting point is 00:17:08 probably a prostitute's killer wasn't found. Whoa. What? Most women who get killed are prostitutes. Is that true? Yeah, that is. I mean, look, a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:17:19 yeah, prostitutes get on. So I can't, but I can't use that information to serve my point. Is that what you're saying? Just because somehow I'm a scumbag for pointing it out in a way that benefits me.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You know it's true. This woman was a prostitute. I'm not saying if you deserve to die, I'm saying the cops, you know, don't take it seriously. They're not going to look for that hard anyway. Right. So you're blaming me entirely just because I made up a little fake fact about the woman's death. You know, further one, can we be clear?
Starting point is 00:17:52 There's no, this is not some situation where she, like we were a vampire machine, like to bring her back to life and we get the killer's blood, all right? I'm not keeping this woman dead. She's already dead. Yeah. And I'm bringing this guy to justice. Another woman gets murdered by him. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Maybe. A lot of maybes. Right. It depends on, you know, how he felt, I guess. Who felt? The killer, after he killed. Yeah, I guess. Maybe he didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Maybe it wasn't for him. Why are we always assuming that everyone who kills a woman on spec just loves it? And it's going to keep doing it. You know, we're just like, oh, every, everyone who, like, everyone, maybe they realized they weren't a sociopath. Mm. You know? Oh, I'm just a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I can kill a woman and feel nothing. Yeah, they realized, like, that time I killed a cat and came in my, pants that was just a fluke yeah it wasn't a repeatable thing right and then they get those women like oh my god I feel terrible I feel so bad about this you know where's this in the true crime uh serial in killer com podcast should we call we should we should we ran our podcast called killer come that that hurt the algorithm uh it might we just called kill or C-O-M-E. Killer,
Starting point is 00:19:09 I like kill's not good, right? The kill might hurt us. That's what I call it serial and that's in a killer. You know? Because it hurts the algorithm. Yeah. We should get that, we should get those people.
Starting point is 00:19:24 The serial people? Yeah, we should get framed for murder. Whatever happened to that. That guy ended up being guilty, didn't he? I think so, yeah. Yeah. So we should frame them for murder, the podcasters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You need to take their place. we should make a cereal about them I guess them put in jail Imagine it How long would you need to be rich and famous for For that to be worth it Because let's just say you get caught Sometimes you guys get caught in like 70
Starting point is 00:19:53 And they lived a life of violent crime But they lived on the high in the hog for 50 years You know, you wonder Where this guy's this guy traded Because he spent a couple years in jail at the end A couple. Well it depends I mean, Bernie Madoff's rich as shit.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Now, is he still in jail? I think he's dead, right? He hung himself, didn't he? Well, because he's jail sucks. All right, so you probably got to hang yourself anyway if you go to jail. They'll screw up and let you hang yourself at some point. So I'm saying, how long would you need to be rich and famous for it to be worth it? The frame of serial people.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Um, I think if I went to jail at like 70, yeah, that would be worth it. So you want a good, like, 35. 37 years, 38 years? Yeah. 40 years almost. How much would you want? A couple. Just a couple?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Two years of being rich? Look at a boat. I'll go on a boat. I love boats. I feel like it takes you a few years to even fully reap the rewards of being rich. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like some kind of weird like annuity situation? Because you get the money but then you have to you know buy all your stuff and you have to. You think the best part of being rich... You'll need the best part of being rich is the moment you get the money and start spending it. I feel like it's probably...
Starting point is 00:21:12 I feel like it's all downhill after the first time you buy a Miatta. Or whatever. Or fucking or jack you're working on a Rolls-Royce dealership with a lot of cash and you go, give me this pentaga. I know I look like a pig, but give me the car. I got money! That's, I mean, it's all downhill from there, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's the best moment. I think it's actually having the car is nice but you've been in cars like that now it's occasionally I think it's not it's that be much more fun just to shove it to a British guy's face just make him eat it eat it bitch
Starting point is 00:21:47 I think it probably takes about six months to get all your stuff and to like and you need like a week with your stuff to start really enjoying being rich I think okay so you think once you get all the stuff You're actually like a materialist.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah. You actually think like the stuff. But the stuff is what's good about being rich. But you think the stuff will make you happy. You haven't learned the lesson from like every piece of art ever made, every piece of like. What? Like, you know. What are you a Buddhist mind call of a sudden?
Starting point is 00:22:18 No, but it's just the getting the stuff. It's more like it's just acknowledging that it's a drug. The first thing you said was I want a boat. Right. But I want to get the boat. But once I get the boat, when we're like actually taking a camera boat to paint the ass. Everyone knows that. Everyone knows the big pain in the ass to take care of a boat.
Starting point is 00:22:34 you want to get the boat you want to have that week with the boat brochures picking out your boat you know and then and you finally pick one and then it's like ugh and it's that moment of great like out on a boat and you get a woman in the bikini to feed you with hot dog whatever you know something make me feel something but you you think you think like you know you're like prod of bags going to make you happy forever no bags I never even think about bags I just think about things that give pleasure like why don't you want a nice bag it's a nice bag what nice bags cost i don't know a thousand dollars that much like a really nice one i'm a thousand dollars it might be a thousand first of all you think it's the most a bag would cost a burking bag costs like 12 grand
Starting point is 00:23:22 i don't look into bags that much so a burgen i know a burkin bag from gilmore girls let's look that up look at a burkin bag burkin bag burkin bag burkin bag I mean It's fine Look at price for a Birken bag That's just a bag Yeah Exactly
Starting point is 00:23:46 What do you want? You want a bag full You want to be made of human? Yeah It better be made of human Would you if I gave you a human If I can assure you it wasn't a product of slavery Or race hate
Starting point is 00:24:01 Or anything like that It's just a person who died naturally And they agree And like they profited, right? Like the family got some money out of this But it was like But the person decided Like I wanted to do it was for my family
Starting point is 00:24:15 Now that they sold them off Right Right It was an old woman bag A bag made of an old woman Would you would you like it? Yeah You would use a bag made of an old woman
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah I think I would Disgusting But you just you just spend You just spend 20 minutes justifying it. Right. I still think it's creepy. You eliminated any concern I could possibly.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm curious if you know, of course if it's like race hate, no. Yeah. Or some kind of like, you know. I don't want a Holocaust human bag. Right. Yeah. Or a bag that was like some material killer made. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like some, you know, sure. That's easy. But I still think it's weird or want it. Well, in the scenario I'm imagining, it's not like I'd go and seek it out. somebody just gives it to me. And tells me this interesting story behind the bag. This is my grandma. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I mean, how much of it do you think... Do you think it being passive like that makes it better on my part? Like, I'm not going out shopping for a human bag. It makes me wonder how you spend your days. Like, what these interact? I don't have these interactions. No one's handling me human bags. What is the first half of this conversation sound like?
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't know. I imagine myself at like. a thrift store you're not that outgoing i've seen you you're like you're fine but you're not like it's not like you're like you know the buzz of the bees you know you just you you're talking to town you get to know everybody you know you're not you're not like this networking guru so what what are you doing this making people more for you human bags i'm just imagining that i'm at like a small thrift yeah stand like not even a store like a stand like something on like on on a street corner okay look at it sells fruit
Starting point is 00:26:03 No, it's like clothing. Okay. But just a limited amount of clothes. You mean it's like hobos? So you get a hand in this bag by a hobo. They're telling you, hey, it wasn't, by the way, it wasn't a murder or a race hate. Like, I don't believe you. So when you see a hipster, like, thrift pop up, you know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You think hobos. I still do, yeah. I think they're hobo rifters. I think they're one level above hobo. No, because they're not necessarily homeless, but they're hobos. They're rifters. Yeah, I don't believe, like these, what these stupid chotchkees? Yeah, yeah, no, I hate them.
Starting point is 00:26:38 They used to be an old woman who would sell underwear at the bowling alley. She reminds me on them, and pogs. She sold underwear and poggs at the bowling alley. That's pretty disgusting. Yeah. Selling underwear. I think bought some. Thrift underwear?
Starting point is 00:26:54 It wasn't used, but she would sell underwear. Was it, like, loose? Did it come in bags? Like? I don't know. I think it had tags, maybe. I'm not sure. A used underwear can have a tag.
Starting point is 00:27:07 No, I don't mean like a tag. I mean, you know, when you buy underwear at the store, it usually has like a plastic connected tags. All right. What do you think I'm talking about having a mattress tag? I'm just imagining it having like just loose underwear and you're just digging through a pile of it. No one does that.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm telling you she would sell relatively new underwear. Okay, relatively. I think it was and pogs. I would buy the pogs. Were the pogs used? I don't think so. Why would it be used? It was the height of the Pog thing.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Back in the early, mid-90s. You weren't around for that. Were you around? But you weren't like, you're too young, maybe. I vaguely remember Pogs. I had Pogs. I bought him from that woman. I think I bought an O.J. Slammer from her.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Maybe it was a comic store. It was O.J. Simpson. He was like, he's in the slammer. He was in jail. Dork. No, but just a slammer. You want to slammer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I'm a dog. You're a fucking dope. Look it up. Look it up. O.J. Simpson. I bet you thought you were so edgy having that. I was like seven years old. Or like 10
Starting point is 00:28:09 whatever? Yeah, that one. Look it up. It's the gold one. That is kind of cool. Yeah, shut up. Great. I want to buy this actually. I don't you cost? I feel like this was made by neo-Nazis. What's it say? What did it say? Price was. $48?
Starting point is 00:28:28 I'm going to buy one. Love it. We bought it for my brother, too. Yeah, I want to. you fucking look at the back look at the back look at the back this one no the back scroll down okay right there
Starting point is 00:28:42 that's the back of it oh it's like shiny no what you not the hologram one okay the gold one oh okay what are you looking at the one of the blue background
Starting point is 00:28:54 yeah this yes okay there were a lot there were just a lot of these yeah but it looks exactly they don't they're not a shape like the sun you see he's got a gun to his head oh i had this as a kid this is a lot of fun what's wrong with you
Starting point is 00:29:12 why don't you get this i don't think this is even a pog what do you mean it's a pox slammer I think you picked up some like it says pox slammer what are you gonna say though it says pogg slam I didn't make this up but go ahead what was your theory
Starting point is 00:29:30 I think you made, you picked up some custom pin made by a, by what? I don't know, by like, whatever the equivalent of a 3% or was. Are you like, do you work for fucking, what's his name, the lawyer? The Innocence Project? No, who's the lawyer? Who's the mayor, Johnny Cochran? Yeah. Where it's like, I think O.J. Simpson's guilty.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Well, they're, it must be a white supremacist. It's not because I don't think he's guilty. He's definitely guilty. Mm-hmm. It's that, it's the glee with which this is made. Like, it's, it's, there's a, there's a racist glee to this. It's not racist glee, he's not done in some weird racial way. It's just like, I'm going to buy this now.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I love this. This doesn't make me happy. The whole scene they're painting is cool. The helicopter in the, in the cars. I'll say. What do you like? Was that, is that Israeli? What does that say before collector's position?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Uh, the bottom. Where's the number? Oh, my eyesight's going. It's just an engraved number. and I thought it was like Hebrew. It kind of looks like a Hebrew if you squint. Anyway. This is actually an engraved image of the hostages.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Anyway, moving on. Too bad. Too bad this episode is in that video because we're being great to show this, everyone. They just look it up. But look it up, you know, O.J. Simpson slammer. It comes up right away. What? You have something else to accuse me of?
Starting point is 00:31:06 I want to get back to this human bag thing. Oh, right, okay. So I'm at this, this is how I imagine accepting the human bag. Sure. I'm at this thrift stand, a bunch of random items. I figure might as well peruse them. And I start, my eye lingers on the bags. Yeah, I bet.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, I need a shoulder bag. And the woman says, this is a really interesting. And the woman, who is a good salesman, sees me looking and decides to describe the human bag to me. Okay. And says, I'm offering this at a discount. As you look at the bag, this is a nice bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 The woman says, and she leads with, I'm an offer this to the discount. Yeah. Okay. And then goes, hey, this is a real nice bag. It's a discount on it, by the way. It's not a great salesman. Maybe she's like, you know, don't leave,
Starting point is 00:31:57 the discount part. Well, she says there's a discount on this is a really interesting piece, like that kind of thing. Okay, so you want me to be you? Yeah, okay. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-oh. Oh, I wish I was a ladybug.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I'm excuse me. Look, that's a nice bag. Excuse me, ma'am. Hello. First of all, I just want to say, I'm sure this isn't usually how you express yourself. What's that?
Starting point is 00:32:23 What do you mean? I'm sure you don't usually just france around saying, a ladybug i wish i was a i'm not a ladybug i'm sorry i wish i was a ladybug but i just wanted to show you this bag it's really interesting and there's a discount on it and it's actually bag that i'm already looking at yeah okay yeah you're looking at the bags in general oh that's not what he said before you said you said this is a nice bag she comes to go well it's discounted Okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I love how you think it's a bad sales technique To tell someone about a discount Well, maybe, I've worked in places where it's like, You know, you kind of make the prices you go Or there's like a basic price But like you don't let's really lead with the fact that's discounted You sell a full price if you want to Whatever
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's not like Macy's where we have to sell for a discount price And we'd sell it, you know You get a commission and stuff You sell it, you know, I never thrive because I wouldn't like to do that I always try to give people a good deal but there was definitely a vibe of like don't lead with the discount
Starting point is 00:33:28 well you use that in your back pocket you use that when you gotta make a sale you know you go they start asking you better like well I can yeah I can I can do this discount for you you know interesting that isn't that's an interesting
Starting point is 00:33:43 pit though you're showing your cards too quick you're taking your pants off right away that's the problem we're going well all the more reason I'm a lucky yell to be getting offered this bag. You getting off on this bag? Gross.
Starting point is 00:34:00 The old woman. Go ahead. All right. So, these bags are so nice. I'll help you out. Yeah. Well, this one is actually, there's a really interesting story behind this bag. Which one?
Starting point is 00:34:12 This tan one. Oh, look at that. It's very tan. Yeah. Human skin. Well, it actually is made out of human skin. Okay. What?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Help! Help! Help me, cops. Shoot this woman. No, there's no need to shoot me. She has women skinned in her bags. There's no need for that, sir. Because the woman who is, this bag is made of, actually consented to it.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Like a gunpoint? No, not under direct. Consented. Why would you, why would someone have to, see, is the problem. You are not the level of salesperson who should be, to use to sell human bags. Okay, you want to reverse rolls? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Okay. Okay, before we get the wrong idea, ma'am. La-da-da-da-da. I wish there was a ladybug. Don't we all? Yeah. Don't we all, ma'am. Now, can I interest you?
Starting point is 00:35:08 I know as you're looking at bags, most of these bags you're looking at are trash. I have them in my store. I'm ashamed of that. Except for one. Why would you have them in your store then? We have to make a lot of compromised decisions as adults. don't we?
Starting point is 00:35:23 You have to bend our own sense of self sometimes and do things we didn't think we would ever do. Yeah, but this is your story. You're in charge. I'm a victim of circumstance. I'm a victim of the moment. All right? I do have bum bag. I'm not ashamed of.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I'm actually proud of my store. I want you to see that because I also, as a fellow ladybug enthusiast. Oh, this is the ladybug theme? what the no we're both label enthusiasts oh yeah sure yeah we have that in common oh oh great it was really the same anyway there's this bag it's made of a dead old woman oh my god but she wanted it that way she knew she was going to die and she said how can i help my family and also others who like fashion and her family was paid handsomely at her request to use her own skin as a bag for your choshkis.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Hmm. Well, that's really interesting. But the only reason... They don't get paid until the bag gets sold, though. It's on consignment. So it's really up to perhaps you to make her wish come true. Hmm. So how about you want to make this not gross the situation?
Starting point is 00:36:44 We can do that. How much is it? $50,000. Oh, my God. It's too much money, right? I know she I really should negotiate her down but that's that's her family gets 52,000 I'm going to lose two grand either way but I'm obligated it's a blood oath um I might kill myself I think the only reason you were more successful in your sales scenarios is because I was
Starting point is 00:37:08 playing a more open-minded customer I'm a better salesman all right I'm just negotiating all sorts of stuff now was you know I'll give it to you I'll give it to a discount $200 Wow, 50K to $200? That's a fucking big discount. That only lasts for 10 seconds, though. Um, okay. Ed, you're good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 There's that 50 grand. See, that's sales for you. It smells. It smells. Well, you bought it, bitch. Get out of my store. I fucking like lady bucks. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Anyway, so that's, when we talk? talking about you bring up a topic you pick a topic um speaking of the whole israel palestine thing amy schumer has been weighing in on it use that word carefully very deliberately don't you have she been way is this before which which uh tampon commercial had you just finished shooting uh when she did this by the way i see her in a lot of tampon She's shot, like, and it's not just, it's not just tampon ads. It feels like 50 versions of the same one tampon ad.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I feel like I know the answer to this, but has she done anything in her career before tampon ads? I do think she was briefly as... I basically remember her not being that, but all I know we're now as is a tampon lady. Does she do anything else? Was she on the episode of Growing Pains? She speaks on the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. Oh, that's where I know we're from.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. What does she have to say? There you go, I'll be flowing it, puss. Sometimes it mixes with shit. Oh, I'm just in there. So she got some backlash recently because... A backrash? I'll bet she has a bunch of backrashes.
Starting point is 00:39:15 She got some backrash for, like, kind of, rage messaging this other celebrity was it like Bella Hadid or something it was like one of the I feel like it was one of the Hadid's probably yeah these is really right or do they know there the other thing the other thing I'm not sure who it was but it was some like hot model sure lady type and like
Starting point is 00:39:42 it's got like real lean and Dunham energy and she was messaging her all these things because she posted like Amy Schumer posted this meme of where Palestinian protesters' signs were replaced with, like, nasty things, like, you know, like raping Israeli women for freedom or something like that. That's not what they have on their signs. But that wasn't, those weren't really the signs. Right. And so this woman kind of made fun of her for it, you know, and Amy Schumer, like, started messaging her a bunch and saying, you know, you're.
Starting point is 00:40:21 anti-Semitic To Schumer? One day, yeah. Oh, she messages her, okay. Yeah. And so then she got a bunch of backlash for that. Also, Martin Luther King's daughter took issue with her.
Starting point is 00:40:34 With Amy Schumer? Yeah. Because she posted like a... Is there a story for this? Because I feel like this is getting kind of complicated. Okay, okay. That's all starting this. Amy Schumer is clapping back.
Starting point is 00:40:49 The comedian 42 has been posting in support of Israel following Hamas's deadly October 7th attack, for which Israel has retaliated with airstrikes on Gaza, as humanitarian, protesters, and Hollywood celebs call for a ceasefire. According to the Associated Press, more than 8,500 Palestinians and 1,400 Israelis have died in the ongoing conflict. On Wednesday, Schumer took to Instagram to address the backlash she's gotten over comments on the current ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. What I want is
Starting point is 00:41:20 Every hostage back, Schumer wrote Referring to the over 200 hostages That Hamas snatched during their October 7th attack I will say they should Probably just get them back at this point They should I mean regardless of how you feel I mean look the attack itself was heinous
Starting point is 00:41:34 No one's saying I mean I guess people are saying it wasn't but it was I mean it was sufficiently heinous That you would think you know This has some retaliation here right We can disagree about how many How much I don't but you know There should be retaliation
Starting point is 00:41:47 what yeah i'm just saying like you know am i wrong no or you feel like i'm trying to like take that position and then say you don't believe that no no you think i'm trying to like messle you out despite what lucy might tell you this attack was saying no i'm just saying like you're gonna argue like oh well they need the hostages to get back to wherever gaza i'm not sure what what you could rationalize as they're they're trying to i guess they're trying to prevent retaliation on Gaza but but it's already getting blown up right I'm saying I'm saying at this point supposedly give them the best intention right right that like they took these hostages to prevent further attack which they caused in the first place by
Starting point is 00:42:30 taking them it's not working just getting back right that's all I'm saying yeah and also look it would be moral to give them back yeah I'm just saying but like it's not even providing a function Like Israel's give a fuck. Israel's, I mean, I'm not saying they go out of their way to shoot hostages, but you're not like, oh,
Starting point is 00:42:49 hostas here, let me not, they're just going, you know, they're like me. If some homeless, if one of my homeless pinkertons was telling me like, oh,
Starting point is 00:42:58 they don't have oranges, uh, we can't steal any more oranges from the fucking corner store. They stopped selling them. I wouldn't accept that. Right. I would start waiting a gun around. I go,
Starting point is 00:43:07 where, let me give me an orange. It's not really comparable. I'm saying, when you were, when you were fucking, you know, big, big shot, you got to not be reasonable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That's what I'm saying. That makes sense. This is the kind of analysis people have been waiting for. Okay, so here's, just for the context, here's the, so what has Schumer been saying? I want all the hostas back though. But she's been saying like, so here's the thing about the Martin Luther King thing.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Like, after comedian Amy Schumer posted a video featuring clips of Martin Luther King, Jr. speaking in support of Israel and denouncing anti-Semitism, his daughter Bernice King felt compelled to clarify what her father's stance would be on the war between Israel and Hamas. Amy, certainly my father, was against anti-Semitism as am I. He also
Starting point is 00:43:57 believed militarism, along with racism and poverty, to be among the interconnected triple evils. I am certain he would call for Israel's bombing of Palestinians to cease, for hostages to be released and for us all the work for true peace, which includes justice. Well, I don't know if
Starting point is 00:44:12 am I speaking on a turn here when I say I don't know if like a black civil rights leader let's just assume she's won even though through the transit property or whatever through dad like if they're the best source I'm not saying look I'm not saying that they're like
Starting point is 00:44:27 all any sematic or anything but there's a lot of there is friction often in the black community among you know sure I don't think MLK was though Jesse Jackson had an issue with Jewish people yeah remember I can't repeat that what he called you know he said
Starting point is 00:44:43 remember though yeah right yeah sure sure he was he walked with king he did but I mean
Starting point is 00:44:53 you think he overstates how much you walked with him though people people there was a time I don't know we still do anymore I guess people are too old but there was a time when people would say
Starting point is 00:45:01 that little fucking walk with Martin Luther King right I guess like that you can't you can't question that sure if you think he overstated he like walked once with them
Starting point is 00:45:10 I wouldn't try to discount what Jesse Jackson did I think he was friends with him. No, I wouldn't try to discount his role in the civil rights movement. Yeah. But Martin Luther King is like universally held as like the best activist in American history. Well, he was better.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah, I'm not saying that like, you know, like if this is more money and more problems, Martin Luther King would definitely be puffed out of eating at Mace. Right. But Mace is still good in that song. But it's not surprising to me that MOK was against anti-Semitism. I don't know. I'm not saying, like, I'm just saying, would he be the best authority? Would you accept, well, clearly I'm against anti-Semitism?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like, I don't know. Just because you're a good black, you know, black civil rights doesn't mean you have, you know. Right. I don't know. I'm just saying it's friction sometimes in those debates. Right. I mean, I didn't know that. I think Jewish people helped out a lot of the civil rights movement.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Sure. But there's other things that, like, you know, I don't know. I'm going to look at the Kanye situation. It's very, you know, you know. tense but go on no but I didn't know apparently he did like
Starting point is 00:46:18 specifically mention Israel who did Martin Luther King oh really at some point what you say that it has a right to exist yeah
Starting point is 00:46:24 but it's but you know okay seems odd if he had to point to that though like why I feel like I feel like
Starting point is 00:46:34 that do you think do you think Martin Luther King secretly hated Jews no well no I don't think that I'm
Starting point is 00:46:41 just saying i just feel like i mean the fact that he said that i mean like it seems like why are you even have to say that i mean a lot of people were saying it at the time i think i i i think if it went without saying he wouldn't have said it that's what i'm saying he wouldn't have said it's what I'm saying. If it went without saying, he wouldn't have said it. I love how it's your mind is wild, man.
Starting point is 00:47:13 What? It's just like, we started talking about this. I mean, it's great. It just turns into something I thought would be, you know, turn into you lightly mocking Amy Schumer, turns into you pulling a whole investigation on Martin Luther King and his sentiments.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I'm, no, I have no problem. I'm not to doubt. I don't think what Martin Luther King said. I'm just saying if it went without saying he wouldn't have said it. I'm just saying it's like, it's not like, oh, of course, like, you know, because he's a black civil rights leader, he should have some kind of, like, I don't know if she can necessarily like question or say,
Starting point is 00:47:49 well, you know, well, Martin Luther King would have said, you know, stop the bombing. Like, yeah, he's, like, I'm saying he may not be the biggest Israel supporter ever. It's not the same, it's not the same thing as like, you know, gold in my ear would have said stop the bombing that would hold more weight I feel like sure you know hey you know Moshe Dianne would have wanted the bombing to stop
Starting point is 00:48:12 you know motion Diane was um look up motion Dian he was the old Israeli defensive minister with the eye patch great great little guy oh wow yeah this is backward Israel had like a romantic like almost like you know
Starting point is 00:48:30 Like a pirate's thing going on. Do you trust a military leader more if they have an eye patch? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he might even if he fell on, you know, during a late night snack, getting a cracker and like, you know, hit it on the corner of a counter. I'm kind of surprised that we haven't had a president with an eye patch yet. I mean, it's fucking, this guy, I think, milked. I mean, I suspect he might have milked it pretty hard.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I don't know most as I am, like, much about him. I don't know he was one of them, you know, when they did the whole Munich post-munic thing. They got revenge he was like him and golden mayor They were in charge and they were like Let's get this shit going Um ruthless people Do you think whenever he was in an argument He would point out he would point at the patch
Starting point is 00:49:12 I would think so Yeah I mean you wonder but you can you can envision I'm a very cynical person So I see a guy like that with the eye patch so prominent I go like you know was he really a nerd He's just like he like you know working the kitchen Who knows what happens I mean Or did he like fucking is even real
Starting point is 00:49:30 Does he actually have a working eye under there? Right. I just, I just, I question these things. But that being said, it's a great look. It's a great, you know. So if this guy came out with like, hey, actually, we should stop the bombing. I think it would hold more weight
Starting point is 00:49:44 than Martin Luther King said it. That's all I'm saying. And this guy was the Israeli defense minister. Sure. I'm not trying to undersell Martin Luther King. Yeah, it would be more shocking. We hold more way. I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:49:56 Martin Luther the King might think Israel's rights to exist but isn't, like, the biggest supporter of older policies. Right. Like, Israel, you got to admit, Israel wants, like, a high, they have a high, they have a high commitment threshold. They, like, America funds them incredibly high, you know, billions a year. We, you know, we veto any, you, anytime of the UN questions,
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think they did, we veto it immediately. Right. A security account. Yeah, they still kind of treat us like assholes. Well, yeah, but, all right. I'm just saying, but also, like, the level of, like, we want your unwavering commitment here during the situation.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm not even complaining. I'm observing. It's high. It's a high threshold. So I don't know the day, like they're, I don't know that they would be happy with Bartlett King's level of like,
Starting point is 00:50:45 you know, car blanche. Oh, I'm sure they wouldn't. I think that's the point she was making. I think, I think Amy Schumer was using an out-of-context clip to try and make it look like this guy was some Israeli nationalist or something. Oh, she was trying to say,
Starting point is 00:50:58 Marley the King would bomb everyone? That he would support like Israel unconditionally here. Oh, I didn't catch that part of it. I mean, that was the implication. Oh, I didn't, wait. Did I miss that part? Oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I was the daughter just kind of messaged her out nowhere. Hey, by the way, my dad would not want you to keep doing this. I missed, I must have been thinking about bumblebees when I heard that, you said that part. No, yeah, so she posted that clip. Oh, Martin King going like bomb the Gaza I'll turn it to glass
Starting point is 00:51:34 I have a dream But Gaza Well, that all exists No Yeah, so Schumer Do you think that in Yahoo's happy? Give me the ribbons I'll open for you
Starting point is 00:51:47 Thank you I have no nails Ray has to open all my cans Well, we can just not explain that Now you have to why you have no nails Now you have to say because otherwise... For the same reason, everybody doesn't have nails.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I bite them. Okay. I don't people think I'm like ripping your nails off like your P or W. Bamboos shoots. That's something people would think, by the way. You think people would just automatically assume that? A certain percentage of people would.
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's not... You know it's luxury being a woman. No one would assume that about you. That you rip your spouse's fingernails apart. people there's probably a percentage of people who assume even now that i'm the one biting your fingernails one time i and i kind of i if anything i'm the one who's it was closer to have done that because even though i would never rip your fingernails out there was one time where i was kind
Starting point is 00:52:43 of admiring your sick long fingernails they're not long they're just not just no but they're sick like they're calcium rich sure and what you do i don't remember this and i was kind of like I started started kind of admiring it and I feel like I did kind of lightly pull on the tip or something like leave me alone
Starting point is 00:53:02 right yeah they were I think it needed to be cut that's a good point they were a little longer than usual they needed to be cut and you started kind of like pulling on them it's very scott
Starting point is 00:53:10 it's creepy as hell yeah those of you who I know there's lonely men out there and you'll figure it out it'll happen you'll find your happiness
Starting point is 00:53:20 but there's lonely they go wow I would you know I would trade the world to have some woman awkwardly pulling on my fingernail. No, you wouldn't. It feels terrible. It was a moment of pure, pure uncomfortableness.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Pure discomfort. Maybe. Maybe you'd make the trade. I guess it's a net positive or life together. Thank you. I really appreciate you. saying that but I'm saying but if all you have is that moment like I would just accept that like if you're real cock about it which you shouldn't don't let yourself so short even if you're lonely that I would take that only that well don't think only that because that sucks right
Starting point is 00:54:09 that moment of like someone pulling on your fingernails horrible yeah I don't think that you should stand for that no but no I would you I would never let you continue to do that I have self respect as soon as I realized what I was doing I felt bad about but like it was demonic I thought you were trying to, like, you know, do some witch stuff. Do you raise fingernail or newt? Some virgin blood? I don't know. I could solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with that.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Why don't you say? And yet you won't let me perform it. Well, I think that shows what you're about. Yeah, I'm fine with that. If you guys need my fingernails and some witchcraft, I'm not into this. so what happens amy schumer still around she's dead do you think that yeah who's happy she's doing this
Starting point is 00:55:00 um i don't i can't imagine do you think she's like making a lot of people like israel more i can't imagine that's the case yeah imagine like imagine being on the fence and then seeing amy schumer right he's what i don't understand it's like just like you I mean, she's doing the worst version of this,
Starting point is 00:55:24 which is just, like, literally taking any criticism of Israel and saying it's anti-Semitic. I feel like not all, like, not even all people who, like, support Israel do that. No, no, a lot, but it doesn't mean that, pointing aside doesn't mean that we, like, don't support Israel. Right. Now, like, I'm not even going to say what I do.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I'm calling about it. No, it's like, we don't have a, I mean, yeah, I don't think you should be able to do what Hamas did. Israel doesn't need us support. No, I mean, let's say, it's just like, it's just, yeah, like Hamas, that, that attack definitely demanded retaliation. Yeah. What's that retaliation look like how long was it go on for is a question.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Also, separately, you know, once you retaliate and you kind of establish that, you know, because no one should put up with that, no matter what you did before. No one, I don't care how, how, how much you beat up a kid, you know, he can't, he can't, like, you know, like, medilate your mother. Right. You know, that's that cool. Yeah, and also, like, to be fair, like, I don't know. I'm coming out of it from the perspective of, like, if I can, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:27 criticize my own government after 9-11 happens. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to, yeah, of course. No, yeah. No, yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Whatever. My point is, uh, I'm actually helping my saying, like, don't, you know, no,
Starting point is 00:56:43 Amy Schumer's not winning hearts and minds. Maybe back when she was, like, making jokes about Mike Tyson being a rapist or whatever. Right. you know back in those fun roasts yeah era but but tampon salesman amy schumer is not winning hearts of minds yeah so maybe put her on the bench coach that's what i'm saying you think you think if she were heard this podcast she would she would you know um she'd be eating a bunch of cheetos while she was doing it i don't know if that would me eating a bunch of cheese dip that was that you got you got her
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah, I was a little turn around. Like, oh, do you think you should be offended? I said, do you think she should be cheating? I don't know. Um, I'm no. I mean, am I a fan of Amy Schumer? No. Oh, I was going to say yes.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I mean, Trayreck was all right. Wasn't it? Not that, but that you're a fan. Oh, I like you. I was offended her in the past. And at this point, a distant past kind of, but, you know, right. She used to be kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:57:48 You didn't defend her so much As you just verbally abused those who hated her Well, there'd be guys at open mics Who would be like, you know Oh, Amy Schumer's not funny And it's like, and like If it was like the funny guy The open mic
Starting point is 00:57:59 Which still means nothing in the end of the day Like, I mean one thing But it wasn't even that Some guy couldn't even get like Like couldn't even get like a fucking People that Open mic don't like him Right It's a fucking real loser
Starting point is 00:58:08 He's telling him like newer losers Like oh you know I'm like Amy Schumer I'm like Oh she's really awful I don't think she's funny at all I was like What I don't know
Starting point is 00:58:18 I really want to say who it was anyway. This is a little scumbag. I have no respect for this guy. But what did you say to him? Oh, you said, like, we do you talk about it? I mean, Schumerer. I was like, I started laughing at the little fuck himself. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I was drunk. I was, I was a mean person sometimes. I don't think that makes me that mean. No. I said worse things. I said worse things, so I'm not mean. Anyway. Where are we leaving this?
Starting point is 00:58:50 I mean, do you think, is Moshe died Diane alive? Let's see. All it has, it doesn't even have his life. Usually they have his life right at the top. Yeah. Oh, he died in 81. Oh, it's a long time ago. Well, I wonder if he were supported Israel.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Probably, right? Yeah. If you're the iPatch having IDF, the IDF, you probably support Israel. Yeah, probably. Imagine imagine me trying to make the case Moshe Diane wouldn't support this war Moshe Tayaan would have defected to Hamas That's probably not true
Starting point is 00:59:25 The one thing you got to say about Israel They don't have a lot of defectors Not a lot of people defect away from Israel They're pretty good at that I feel like we have more defectors You don't see some Israeli guy joining up with Hamas But you did see there was that guy John Walker Who joined Al Qaeda
Starting point is 00:59:42 Remember? Or Taliban maybe Maybe join the Taliban. Look up John Walker. American Taliban, I guess. He joined, he was. Oh, yeah, Taliban American. John Walker Lund.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I just, I put that name out of my back. Well, yeah. What happened to that guy? Is he alive? John Walker Lind spent his formative years in an affluent. This is like a People magazine article from like 1987.
Starting point is 01:00:08 What are we looking at here? This is like the weirdly, most weirdly formatted website. This is obviously, in the early 2000s. Yeah. He's going to be Wikipedia. I wonder if he's,
Starting point is 01:00:19 they're not going to know if he's alive. He was eventually caught. I wonder if he's dead or not. They have a picture of him after he's been captured, though. Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, he wouldn't say if he's dead or not. I'll say it takes a few years to convict someone of the treason, typically.
Starting point is 01:00:32 There we go, see. So where is he a Supermax? Oh, where is he now? Oh, what's that picture in the middle? Oh, damn. Let me see. that what is that that that's him he's a he's like belt belted to a journey yeah wow is that him in the taliban or is that him when he called him i think that's him when we caught me he's funny
Starting point is 01:00:57 me that was a taliban halban did that's one i want to join you uh Lynn photographed after being transported to camp rhino that's us right camp rhino I guess yeah the rhinos have him where is he um so oh it's okay so right now he's in prison there you go released oh he's released what what happened read this
Starting point is 01:01:30 uh and on may 23rd 2019 Lynn was released early for good behavior from the Tara hot Indiana federal prison prior to the end of his 20 year sentence wow so he was released early we should get him on the show yeah can we get john lind on the john walker lind
Starting point is 01:01:49 jesus christ you think you should make him third mike yeah i mean yeah why isn't anyone has anyone tried to talk to him i mean i think it'd be a fascinating interview whereas ask him i just try to get him to like you know um go in the business with me whatever we say what if it's like
Starting point is 01:02:17 Taliban Taffy that's your face The cover is him in the in the On the gurney I'm on the gurney Yeah And it's just Taliban Taffy It's like
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's like made with Company owned by John Morgreland The American Taliban Oh my God The logo is him in the gurney And his mouth is stuffed with Taffy. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I love it. Yeah. This is a really good idea. All right. Well, the American Taffy. He accepted several probation requirements due to his continued support of Islamist ideology. What does that mean ideology? Like he...
Starting point is 01:02:59 So I guess he was like, I won't try to join the Taliban anymore, but I still believe in their thing. Was it just mean that he's Islamic? Oh, it might just mean that he's Islamic. I mean, it's been. Bad that he did what he did, I guess. I'm not sure exactly what he did, but I assume trying to join the Taliban, even in hindsight.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Even though we don't, like, there's no part of me was ever like the Taliban with the good guys, you know? So whatever. That being said, it still seems weird that they did try to get him and not be Islamic anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah. I feel you shouldn't be allowed to ask that. I was assuming they meant, like, you know, support of Islamic extremism. Maybe, but isn't that, isn't that, isn't that highlighted? Islamic ideology Islamist ideology
Starting point is 01:03:45 Islaman's ideology Is a real Yeah okay it's a religious political ideology It advocates for Islamism And is dedicated to realizing Their ideological interpretation of Islam Within the context of the state Okay so they want an Islamic state
Starting point is 01:03:59 Which I have plenty of I mean the one thing is you know Keep saying there's only one Israeli state It's like 25 Or whatever Muslim states Right I guess that's true I mean there are a lot of Muslim states
Starting point is 01:04:11 I'm not sure what my point is. Anyway. This is just interesting. These requirements included a ban from internet use and contact. Is he a hacker? Yeah. And contact with fellow extremists. Mm.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So we can't go to the meetups anymore. What if it's other, what if it's an extreme crypto guys? Guys who's really into like NTFs. Can you get into NFTs? Yeah. Can he buy a board ape? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:41 that's i think it's pretty at a certain point you could have argued it was a moderate position than want a board date yeah now but before and after you know it's pretty extreme in my opinion like if you wanted to buy a board date now i'd call you an idiot right not you i'd probably find a better way to say it was you um anyway that's crazy so can we get them on the show you think maybe we're gonna try we're gonna look at see we can give the the american taliban on the show do you think they'd consider us fellow extremists. Yeah, that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:05:14 He's like, you know, not in any sense. We weren't, we're not allied with him, but, you know, we have our own old things going on, our own views on water sports. I don't know. Anyway, thanks so much for supporting the show. Thank you. Don't forget we have, we sell our Patreon. As it comes every week we do the Patreon.
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