Kump - Ep. 156 A Career Low
Episode Date: November 3, 2023Ray and Lucie discuss the Middle East, Amy Schumer, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump ...Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8
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Hello and welcome to cop.
Hello.
Hello, Lucy.
Those of you out there on the YouTube video program, is YouTube a program?
an application
the site
yeah it's a site
all right
what's the difference
of me a YouTube
being a program
on the website
probably nothing
it probably has to be
a lot of programmers
on the YouTube website
yeah it is an app
yeah I'm starting a program
the YouTube program
you might even notice
that we don't have
any video on there
and that's because we're still
in the process
of
redoing the studio
and it's taken longer than expected.
If people have been clamor,
we have to come back and do the show on the main feed
because we want this information from you.
We want this insight from Ray and Lucy.
And particularly about this is what you refer to Lucy as the Israeli Palestine.
I don't think that's an insane thing to call it.
Maybe it's not.
I mean, you...
I'll put no spin on it, and then we'll let them decide in the comments
if just referring to the whole situation as the Israeli Palestine makes sense.
I might be wrong or right.
What would you call it?
Doom.
It's just doom.
You know, people go, what we want to know what you think.
Well, a lot of people want to know what I think.
I was actually, we're the reason I haven't been out here talking about it.
I mean, I'm on the Patreon, but, you know, we've been, I was actually involved.
in peace talks with the whole Israeli Palestine and did not go well.
It was actually before the, you know, big incident happened, kind of a career low for me.
What did you say to them?
I said, shut up.
You shut up.
You're stupid.
Just fucking stop.
That is a confident maneuver.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.
I was pretty confident.
I feel like a lot of people would like a...
I was pretty confident when I said it.
Yeah.
Then a lot of things happened afterwards.
They got less confident.
They didn't appreciate your boldness.
They didn't, you know, at the time, they had nothing to say.
They just sat in their hands.
That's just like them.
Yeah.
Nothing to say in the room, but then once your back has turned, real bratty of them.
Let's drag your grandma to Israel, you know, whatever.
Yeah.
That's right.
Um, yeah, some of you get very offended by the whole situation, various ways.
like who have you seen i mean people get mad that the uh the people ripping down posters in
new york city yeah what is what's with that it's in the cover of the of the post like look at
these dirt bags it's not even clever anymore i don't i don't advocate me people
humas yeah right i'm sorry i can do the is it wrong to not say the h sound
the hamot what i can't say it i don't think you have to put the the extra mustard on it
on it okay i don't want i i don't be the guy saying like mozzarella cheese yeah you know
i want to be that guy that seems that seems like a lame thing to me what you mean the guys
would go moussorel no i'm saying i don't i don't want that's that's that's that's i think everyone
says mozzarella cheese no it's one thing to be like the idiot going like let me get some fresh
mooserelle but you don't say mazrella cheese or mozzarella you know
Let me get some mozzarella, please.
No, let me get some fresh mozzarella.
Yeah, you got a split a difference.
That's what you're supposed to do it, like in my view.
You don't go, let me get some fresh mozare.
No.
We also go, let me get some mozzarella cheese, please.
You know?
I think I was driving Lucy crazy.
Lucy's like, I think every single time.
Have I tapped into the new, the new comp?
Lucy's going off the charts here.
She's loving this.
I think every time I've requested
mozzarella cheese I've said it exactly like that
Can I have some mozzarella cheese?
Well, you have the
You have the luxury of acting like a five-year-old girl
I don't want to call you that on it
I can't do that
I can't be like mozzarella cheese please
They'll find me out in the streets
They'll gut me like a pig
I'll be left with the wolves
You can just be like
You just wander around like your little red riding hood
asking for cheese
um no so in that in that sense
I don't want to be the guy saying you know
Hamas and it's like oh hey what are you white
I think however you would say halal is how you should say
Hamas I say halal I don't say
howl or much I make fun of it
I can make that sound kind of
kind of but
I feel like if I say it's going to sound offensive
I think if it hasn't been ingrained in you since you're a young
child you don't have to say
to make the noise
Hamas.
You know, they've been learning that since they were like two.
All right.
Well, don't get conspiratorial here.
They've been trained to be better than you.
It's like great replacement theory.
All right.
That being said, what are we saying about the whole?
Oh, but the posters, it's all, look, I don't, I don't like it.
But also, like, like, why are you tearing it down?
I mean, I guess they feel like it's propaganda.
But also, like, you know the hostage zone in New York, right?
Right.
Like, the post is covering it as if, like, we're keeping people from, like,
from seeking, like, a lost dog poster.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, they're not here.
And it's not even the kind of thing that would influence, like, our government.
Right.
We're pretty pro-Israel here.
It's not like Joe Biden is walking past them and he sees them.
And he's like, maybe I should try to get the hostages back.
You'll say, maybe I should, you know, lick a child's hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reminds me, I should lick a random child's hair.
And be 80.
That's what I am.
I'm an 80-year-old man who licks children's hair.
I guess it is possible that a poster could remind Biden to deal with the house.
We are that.
I haven't seen posters before.
To be fair,
that this doesn't happen for a while.
But that might be,
maybe the strategy is only there because Biden is so susceptible to wanted posters.
Like,
imagine Biden back in the day with those like Osama and one of dead or alive posters.
Oh, right.
Like you saw those were like, oh, my.
God.
Hope he got him dead.
I hope he's dead.
Dead or alive.
He got,
you think he got a six-th shooter?
When that happened,
you think Biden in 9-11?
He's like,
Jill,
buy me a revolver.
Buy me a cold revolver
and a belt of bullets.
He'd do it with a shotgun.
Well,
he says that.
He says,
he tells his wife.
He's the biggest advocate
of a double-barrel shotgun.
For his wife,
because, you know,
women can't shoot.
you know, a shotgun can shoot a very, you know, wide target
compared to a little colt revolver with a belt of bullets, you know?
Do you think is, I mean, I feel like Biden's wife would resent that.
Yeah.
She represents everything.
She calls me a doctor, please.
You know, so you think I can't shoot?
That's why shoot your wad comes from because the shotgun is a wad.
That's what gets left in the body, you know?
Joe Biden has to be the first lady you hear the least about.
Yeah, because she's just unremarkable.
It's ironic because she's like calling me a doctor
because there's nothing remarkable about her.
That's the last thing I ever heard about her.
Yeah.
Is that she wanted to be called doctor?
Where's her like cured of fat kid program or whatever?
Yeah.
It was her eternal kid's trans.
Is that her thing?
Why don't you start a green bean garden?
Yeah.
I'd love to have her on here on the show.
Yeah.
My wife said about you five years ago
But we were still not
The Joe Rogans of the late 2020s
She said we should go
I'm a vision
At that point
We've grown to the statue where she would come on our show
Right
She would never come on our show right now
It's far too few viewers
I'm probably a vision situation
Where we're the new Rogans
Where we're the ones fucking running Austin
The Austin homeless scene
You think Austin
You think if I
invest in homeless people now i can run austin in five years invest in homeless people yeah just like
you know curry favor i mean i i i guess it's well how would you curry favor i don't know give them
drugs and food and money right yeah this isn't exactly uh how do you build a space rocket
but how do you imagine this investment blooming like what do you think is they become my mafia
A mafia of homeless
That's not a bad
Idea
I guess you know
Someone someone's talking to me
From some oil companies
Like I got 16
Vagrants who'll stab you in the eye
Before sundown
I'm great comp
I can't walk a
I can't walk a mile
I see the homeless man
Who knows my name
They're like your Pinkertons
Yeah I mean
By Pinkertons you mean
Slobbs or stab people
sure i mean i'm not trying i'm not i'm not a pagerden stand but i feel like they
resent the comparison so we we were preeminent the preeminent trained armed
armed services and you have a bunch of people who don't care about their own lives
enough to stand the president whatever yeah if you ever make this happen you should call them the new
Pinkertons
You're a good point
I just call them
Pinkertons
Yeah
They sue me
Sue me
So a bunch of
homeless guys
Yeah
If anyone
to ask where
you're from
You said
Pinkertons
Yeah
Bunch of
Pincertons
A bunch of
Pinkertons
We're found
shitting all over
the street
today
Raised Pinkertons
Just
washing themselves
and piss
I'm really
I'm really sounding
anything homeless
now
But I would
encourage
this behavior
I would
I would bring them
down
not pull them up bring it under my level they're going to be so shocked when they find
that i'm not homeless we thought you were one of us like no i have a job what's up i think i
give you the money and the drugs no you get out there and shower in your own piss
why would we do that do what well why don't we do what oh there is that you're
You know, team building.
Team building.
Yeah.
You know, it's like trust falls.
Right, yeah.
It does seem like you need at least two people to make showering in your own piss happen
because you need someone to hold the container.
Container.
Well, like you say like someone pisses on each other.
Like one guy pisses on the other guy and he returns a favor.
Well, I'm imagining that they would only want to shower in their own urine.
Oh.
So if I had to shower in someone's urine, I would want it to.
be mine. I mean, I got to imagine that would be a little better urine than me. Why don't want to think
their urine is the best? Well, you're already on urine. Maybe you go like, no, but my urine's clean.
Like, I don't think that. I don't think anyone who drinks pits should really be choosy about which
piss. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, nobody said anything about drinking. You can drink a little
of this. This is going to happen. You go in a shower and you go in a shower and you, like, duct tape your
mouth closed? What is this? What are we doing here?
We're making up stories?
You're going to fake stories.
It can't happen.
Of course you're going to drink a little piss.
You really just don't know how piss works.
Anyway, but yeah, I don't think you should take the posters down per se.
Is that where it was still on?
Oh, right.
Yeah, the posters.
The posters are useless.
The posters aren't doing anything.
I mean, look, they're putting them up in the middle of New York City.
I guess to get attention.
Right.
Like, his house is still there.
But I can't do anything.
I mean, you know, I can't do anything one way or the other.
I can't, you know, unless you're asking me to go sign up for one of the sides.
You know what they are?
Do you think the people who put the posters up have a particular side?
They want you, or you just want you to just get involved.
They're pro.
It's kind of like rock to vote.
Right.
Like, we don't tell you who to vote for.
I mean, the people who do rock to vote are always, it's usually.
is Democrats, though, right?
Typically, or just, I mean, sometimes they do seem kind of apolitical.
They seem apolitical, but they're rock to votes.
They probably want you not to vote for Republicans, right?
I guess they also know the people watching those ads are young,
so they know they're going to vote Democrat problem.
Imagine, how many Trump voters do you think rock to vote,
like, have delayed impact on?
Do you think a lot of them sort of puff daddy back in the day?
Now, I'm going to finally vote now.
They're watching the old repeat of,
Kurt Loder.
Anyway, in a similar way,
do you think those people who put the posters up are apolitical
or do they have a besides that I want you to know it?
Maybe they do.
They just want you to keep it in mind.
They don't need you to have any view of it.
But they want me to get a gun.
I can save these old people.
I mean, just to be clear, just to like get to put this in context.
Like people put posters up.
For a while, for months in New York City,
I saw the same poster that was put up by like a guy in his 60s
that had a picture of him.
saying, saying, I'm looking for a girlfriend.
Really?
How often did you look at this poster?
I ran into it so many times.
And it was like, call this number if you want,
if you're interested in being my girlfriend.
What happened?
When you called the number?
I did it call.
But that's where the hostage posters are up now.
In the same place where that lonely guy looked for a girlfriend.
Are they up around here?
When I saw them, which this was, you know, years ago,
but I was seeing them in like the Lower East Side.
Which posters?
The girlfriend posters.
Oh, did you see hostage posters there?
No, but I'm just saying in the city.
Oh, okay, yeah.
I got you.
These are, this is who puts posters up.
Right.
You do, you think the guy, you think, you think this is also so a guy can get a girlfriend,
this whole situation?
I think it's the same guy.
You think some guy invaded Israel just to get a girlfriend?
Do you pin to that with the Moss?
You think a Moss is sitting there confused?
Is that what you're trying to?
I mean, I'm confused, Lucy.
I'm just saying this is the amount of, you know, publicity you're getting.
Okay.
It's the same amount as this guy.
Right.
I mean, he might be doing very well for himself.
We don't know.
He might be.
He might be a fucking, like, you know, like have a girlfriend, though.
That's true.
You think someone, you think a girl would have approached that guy?
I mean, maybe a girl with, like, no survival instincts.
What, you think that guy would kill you?
You think that guy would kill you and leave his posters up?
Maybe.
That's the same if it was a crazy way to kill someone.
Because the police would look at the poster and be like, nobody would respond to that.
She wasn't murdered by that guy.
The police are lazy.
They'd probably go, that's the guy.
Police would go immediately, that's the guy.
The opposite's true.
They would just assume they would call it the, they would call them the, they would call it the, the, um, the, um, bulls and board killer.
I was like, it's not a bullden board and whatever.
And what do you call those things?
Like a foam
Maybe like the phone pole
A phone pole killer
The love
I mean I feel like they call them like the lonely hard killer or something
I would call I would call him the tap dance killer
Kind of it sounds funny
Yeah
I'm surprised no one's ever used that before
The tap dance killer
I would love to an engineer situation where someone gets killed
I just I named the guy the tap dance killer somehow
Next time a woman gets murdered
Let me know
I want to call the cops
I'm gonna lie
I would say that like a tap dancing
I heard tap dancing in the area
that'll probably
that'll probably derail the investigation
a little bit
if it might take them longer
to find the dead
the dead woman
well I mean how often they find them
anyway? I really gonna blame me
I mean I didn't help
in this situation
I certainly didn't help
yeah how much did they hurt though
1% 2%
we're gonna really blame me
because a woman's like
probably a prostitute's killer
wasn't found.
Whoa.
What?
Most women who get killed are prostitutes.
Is that true?
Yeah, that is.
I mean, look, a lot of them,
yeah, prostitutes get on.
So I can't,
but I can't use that information
to serve my point.
Is that what you're saying?
Just because somehow I'm a scumbag
for pointing it out
in a way that benefits me.
You know it's true.
This woman was a prostitute.
I'm not saying if you deserve to die,
I'm saying the cops, you know, don't take it seriously.
They're not going to look for that hard anyway.
Right.
So you're blaming me entirely just because I made up a little fake fact about the woman's death.
You know, further one, can we be clear?
There's no, this is not some situation where she, like we were a vampire machine,
like to bring her back to life and we get the killer's blood, all right?
I'm not keeping this woman dead.
She's already dead.
Yeah.
And I'm bringing this guy to justice.
Another woman gets murdered by him.
Maybe.
Maybe.
A lot of maybes.
Right.
It depends on, you know, how he felt, I guess.
Who felt?
The killer, after he killed.
Yeah, I guess.
Maybe he didn't like it.
Maybe it wasn't for him.
Why are we always assuming that everyone who kills a woman on spec just loves it?
And it's going to keep doing it.
You know, we're just like, oh, every, everyone who, like, everyone, maybe they realized
they weren't a sociopath.
Mm.
You know?
Oh, I'm just a sociopath.
I can kill a woman and feel nothing.
Yeah, they realized, like, that time I killed a cat and came in my,
pants that was just a fluke yeah it wasn't a repeatable thing right and then they get
those women like oh my god I feel terrible I feel so bad about this you know where's this
in the true crime uh serial in killer com podcast should we call we should we should we
ran our podcast called killer come that that hurt the algorithm uh it might we just called kill or
C-O-M-E.
Killer,
I like kill's not good, right?
The kill might hurt us.
That's what I call it serial and that's in a killer.
You know?
Because it hurts the algorithm.
Yeah.
We should get that,
we should get those people.
The serial people?
Yeah, we should get framed for murder.
Whatever happened to that.
That guy ended up being guilty, didn't he?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah.
So we should frame them for murder, the podcasters.
Yeah.
You need to take their place.
we should make a cereal about them
I guess them put in jail
Imagine it
How long would you need to be rich and famous for
For that to be worth it
Because let's just say you get caught
Sometimes you guys get caught in like 70
And they lived a life of violent crime
But they lived on the high in the hog for 50 years
You know, you wonder
Where this guy's this guy traded
Because he spent a couple years in jail at the end
A couple.
Well it depends
I mean, Bernie Madoff's rich as shit.
Now, is he still in jail?
I think he's dead, right?
He hung himself, didn't he?
Well, because he's jail sucks.
All right, so you probably got to hang yourself anyway if you go to jail.
They'll screw up and let you hang yourself at some point.
So I'm saying, how long would you need to be rich and famous for it to be worth it?
The frame of serial people.
Um, I think if I went to jail at like 70, yeah, that would be worth it.
So you want a good, like, 35.
37 years, 38 years?
Yeah.
40 years almost.
How much would you want?
A couple.
Just a couple?
Two years of being rich?
Look at a boat.
I'll go on a boat.
I love boats.
I feel like it takes you a few years to even fully
reap the rewards
of being rich.
What do you mean?
Like some kind of weird like annuity situation?
Because you get the money but then you have to
you know buy all your stuff
and you have to.
You think the best part of being rich...
You'll need the best part of being rich
is the moment you get the money and start spending it.
I feel like it's probably...
I feel like it's all downhill after the first time you buy a Miatta.
Or whatever.
Or fucking or jack you're working on a Rolls-Royce dealership
with a lot of cash and you go,
give me this pentaga.
I know I look like a pig, but give me the car.
I got money!
That's, I mean, it's all downhill from there, I imagine.
That's the best moment.
I think it's actually having the car is nice
but you've been in cars like that
now it's occasionally
I think it's not it's that be much more fun
just to shove it to a British guy's face
just make him eat it
eat it bitch
I think it probably
takes about six months to get all your stuff
and to like
and you need like a week with your stuff
to start really enjoying being rich
I think
okay so you think once you get all the stuff
You're actually like a materialist.
Yeah.
You actually think like the stuff.
But the stuff is what's good about being rich.
But you think the stuff will make you happy.
You haven't learned the lesson from like every piece of art ever made, every piece of like.
What?
Like, you know.
What are you a Buddhist mind call of a sudden?
No, but it's just the getting the stuff.
It's more like it's just acknowledging that it's a drug.
The first thing you said was I want a boat.
Right.
But I want to get the boat.
But once I get the boat, when we're like actually taking a camera boat to paint the ass.
Everyone knows that.
Everyone knows the big pain in the ass to take care of a boat.
you want to get the boat you want to have that week with the boat brochures picking out your boat
you know and then and you finally pick one and then it's like ugh and it's that moment of great
like out on a boat and you get a woman in the bikini to feed you with hot dog whatever you know
something make me feel something but you you think you think like you know you're like
prod of bags going to make you happy forever no bags I never even think about bags I just think about
things that give pleasure like why don't you want a nice bag it's a nice bag what nice bags cost
i don't know a thousand dollars that much like a really nice one i'm a thousand dollars it might be
a thousand first of all you think it's the most a bag would cost a burking bag costs like 12 grand
i don't look into bags that much so a burgen i know a burkin bag from gilmore girls
let's look that up look at a burkin bag burkin bag burkin bag burkin bag
I mean
It's fine
Look at price for a Birken bag
That's just a bag
Yeah
Exactly
What do you want?
You want a bag full
You want to be made of human?
Yeah
It better be made of human
Would you if I gave you a human
If I can assure you it wasn't a product of slavery
Or race hate
Or anything like that
It's just a person who died naturally
And they agree
And like they profited, right?
Like the family got some money out of this
But it was like
But the person decided
Like I wanted to do it was for my family
Now that they sold them off
Right
Right
It was an old woman bag
A bag made of an old woman
Would you would you like it?
Yeah
You would use a bag made of an old woman
Yeah I think I would
Disgusting
But you just you just spend
You just spend 20 minutes
justifying it.
Right.
I still think it's creepy.
You eliminated any concern I could possibly.
I'm curious if you know, of course if it's like race hate, no.
Yeah.
Or some kind of like, you know.
I don't want a Holocaust human bag.
Right.
Yeah.
Or a bag that was like some material killer made.
Right?
Like some, you know, sure.
That's easy.
But I still think it's weird or want it.
Well, in the scenario I'm imagining, it's not like I'd go and seek it out.
somebody just gives it to me.
And tells me this interesting story behind the bag.
This is my grandma.
Yeah.
I mean, how much of it do you think...
Do you think it being passive like that makes it better on my part?
Like, I'm not going out shopping for a human bag.
It makes me wonder how you spend your days.
Like, what these interact?
I don't have these interactions.
No one's handling me human bags.
What is the first half of this conversation sound like?
I don't know.
I imagine myself at like.
a thrift store you're not that outgoing i've seen you you're like you're fine but you're not like
it's not like you're like you know the buzz of the bees you know you just you you're talking to
town you get to know everybody you know you're not you're not like this networking guru so what
what are you doing this making people more for you human bags i'm just imagining that i'm at
like a small thrift yeah stand like not even a store like a stand like something on like on
on a street corner okay look at it sells fruit
No, it's like clothing.
Okay.
But just a limited amount of clothes.
You mean it's like hobos?
So you get a hand in this bag by a hobo.
They're telling you, hey, it wasn't, by the way, it wasn't a murder or a race hate.
Like, I don't believe you.
So when you see a hipster, like, thrift pop up, you know what you're thinking.
You think hobos.
I still do, yeah.
I think they're hobo rifters.
I think they're one level above hobo.
No, because they're not necessarily homeless, but they're hobos.
They're rifters.
Yeah, I don't believe, like these, what these stupid chotchkees?
Yeah, yeah, no, I hate them.
They used to be an old woman who would sell underwear at the bowling alley.
She reminds me on them, and pogs.
She sold underwear and poggs at the bowling alley.
That's pretty disgusting.
Yeah.
Selling underwear.
I think bought some.
Thrift underwear?
It wasn't used, but she would sell underwear.
Was it, like, loose?
Did it come in bags?
Like?
I don't know.
I think it had tags, maybe.
I'm not sure.
A used underwear can have a tag.
No, I don't mean like a tag.
I mean, you know, when you buy underwear at the store,
it usually has like a plastic connected tags.
All right.
What do you think I'm talking about having a mattress tag?
I'm just imagining it having like just loose underwear
and you're just digging through a pile of it.
No one does that.
I'm telling you she would sell relatively new underwear.
Okay, relatively.
I think it was and pogs.
I would buy the pogs.
Were the pogs used?
I don't think so.
Why would it be used?
It was the height of the Pog thing.
Back in the early, mid-90s.
You weren't around for that.
Were you around?
But you weren't like, you're too young, maybe.
I vaguely remember Pogs.
I had Pogs.
I bought him from that woman.
I think I bought an O.J. Slammer from her.
Maybe it was a comic store.
It was O.J. Simpson.
He was like, he's in the slammer.
He was in jail.
Dork.
No, but just a slammer.
You want to slammer?
Yeah.
I'm a dog.
You're a fucking dope.
Look it up.
Look it up.
O.J. Simpson.
I bet you thought you were so
edgy having that. I was like seven years
old. Or like 10
whatever? Yeah, that one. Look it up. It's the gold one.
That is kind of cool. Yeah, shut up.
Great.
I want to buy this actually.
I don't you cost? I feel like this was made by neo-Nazis.
What's it say? What did it say?
Price was.
$48?
I'm going to buy one.
Love it. We bought it for my brother, too. Yeah, I want to.
you fucking look at the back
look at the back
look at the back
this one no the back
scroll down okay
right there
that's the back of it
oh it's like shiny
no what you
not the hologram one
okay the gold one
oh okay
what are you looking at
the one of the blue background
yeah this yes
okay there were a lot
there were just a lot of these
yeah but it looks exactly
they don't they're not a shape like the sun
you see he's got a gun to his head oh i had this as a kid
this is a lot of fun
what's wrong with you
why don't you get this
i don't think this is even a pog
what do you mean it's a pox slammer
I think you picked up some like
it says pox slammer
what are you gonna say though it says pogg slam
I didn't make this up
but go ahead what was your theory
I think you made, you picked up some custom pin made by a, by what?
I don't know, by like, whatever the equivalent of a 3% or was.
Are you like, do you work for fucking, what's his name, the lawyer?
The Innocence Project?
No, who's the lawyer?
Who's the mayor, Johnny Cochran?
Yeah.
Where it's like, I think O.J. Simpson's guilty.
Well, they're, it must be a white supremacist.
It's not because I don't think he's guilty.
He's definitely guilty.
Mm-hmm.
It's that, it's the glee with which this is made.
Like, it's, it's, there's a, there's a racist glee to this.
It's not racist glee, he's not done in some weird racial way.
It's just like, I'm going to buy this now.
I love this.
This doesn't make me happy.
The whole scene they're painting is cool.
The helicopter in the, in the cars.
I'll say.
What do you like?
Was that, is that Israeli?
What does that say before collector's position?
Uh, the bottom.
Where's the number?
Oh, my eyesight's going.
It's just an engraved number.
and I thought it was like Hebrew.
It kind of looks like a Hebrew if you squint.
Anyway.
This is actually an engraved image of the hostages.
Anyway, moving on.
Too bad.
Too bad this episode is in that video
because we're being great to show this, everyone.
They just look it up.
But look it up, you know, O.J. Simpson slammer.
It comes up right away.
What? You have something else to accuse me of?
I want to get back to this human bag thing.
Oh, right, okay.
So I'm at this, this is how I imagine accepting the human bag.
Sure.
I'm at this thrift stand, a bunch of random items.
I figure might as well peruse them.
And I start, my eye lingers on the bags.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, I need a shoulder bag.
And the woman says, this is a really interesting.
And the woman, who is a good salesman,
sees me looking and decides to describe the human bag to me.
Okay.
And says, I'm offering this at a discount.
As you look at the bag, this is a nice bag.
Yeah.
The woman says, and she leads with,
I'm an offer this to the discount.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then goes, hey, this is a real nice bag.
It's a discount on it, by the way.
It's not a great salesman.
Maybe she's like, you know, don't leave,
the discount part.
Well, she says there's a discount on this
is a really interesting piece,
like that kind of thing.
Okay, so you want me to be you?
Yeah, okay.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-oh.
Oh, I wish I was a ladybug.
I'm excuse me.
Look, that's a nice bag.
Excuse me, ma'am.
Hello.
First of all, I just want to say,
I'm sure this isn't usually
how you express yourself.
What's that?
What do you mean?
I'm sure you don't usually
just france around saying,
a ladybug i wish i was a i'm not a ladybug i'm sorry i wish i was a ladybug but i just wanted
to show you this bag it's really interesting and there's a discount on it and it's actually
bag that i'm already looking at yeah okay yeah you're looking at the bags in general oh that's not
what he said before you said you said this is a nice bag she comes to go well it's discounted
Okay, go on.
I love how you think it's a bad sales technique
To tell someone about a discount
Well, maybe, I've worked in places where it's like,
You know, you kind of make the prices you go
Or there's like a basic price
But like you don't let's really lead with the fact that's discounted
You sell a full price if you want to
Whatever
It's not like Macy's where we have to sell for a discount price
And we'd sell it, you know
You get a commission and stuff
You sell it, you know, I never thrive
because I wouldn't like to do that
I always try to give people a good deal
but there was definitely a vibe
of like don't lead with the discount
well you use that in your back pocket
you use that when you gotta make a sale
you know you go
they start asking you better
like well I can yeah I can
I can do this discount for you
you know
interesting that isn't that's an interesting
pit though you're showing your cards too quick
you're taking your pants off right away
that's the problem
we're going
well all the more reason I'm a lucky
yell to be getting offered this bag.
You getting off on this bag?
Gross.
The old woman.
Go ahead.
All right.
So, these bags are so nice.
I'll help you out.
Yeah.
Well, this one is actually, there's a really interesting story behind this bag.
Which one?
This tan one.
Oh, look at that.
It's very tan.
Yeah.
Human skin.
Well, it actually is made out of human skin.
Okay.
What?
Help!
Help!
Help me, cops.
Shoot this woman.
No, there's no need to shoot me.
She has women skinned in her bags.
There's no need for that, sir.
Because the woman who is, this bag is made of, actually consented to it.
Like a gunpoint?
No, not under direct.
Consented.
Why would you, why would someone have to, see, is the problem.
You are not the level of salesperson who should be,
to use to sell human bags.
Okay, you want to reverse rolls?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, before we get the wrong idea, ma'am.
La-da-da-da-da.
I wish there was a ladybug.
Don't we all?
Yeah.
Don't we all, ma'am.
Now, can I interest you?
I know as you're looking at bags,
most of these bags you're looking at are trash.
I have them in my store.
I'm ashamed of that.
Except for one.
Why would you have them in your store then?
We have to make a lot of compromised decisions as adults.
don't we?
You have to bend our own sense of self sometimes and do things we didn't think we would ever do.
Yeah, but this is your story.
You're in charge.
I'm a victim of circumstance.
I'm a victim of the moment.
All right?
I do have bum bag.
I'm not ashamed of.
I'm actually proud of my store.
I want you to see that because I also, as a fellow ladybug enthusiast.
Oh, this is the ladybug theme?
what the no we're both label enthusiasts oh yeah sure yeah we have that in common oh oh great it was
really the same anyway there's this bag it's made of a dead old woman oh my god but she wanted it
that way she knew she was going to die and she said how can i help my family and also others
who like fashion and her family was paid handsomely at her request
to use her own skin as a bag for your choshkis.
Hmm.
Well, that's really interesting.
But the only reason...
They don't get paid until the bag gets sold, though.
It's on consignment.
So it's really up to perhaps you to make her wish come true.
Hmm.
So how about you want to make this not gross the situation?
We can do that.
How much is it?
$50,000.
Oh, my God.
It's too much money, right?
I know she I really should negotiate her down but that's that's her family gets 52,000 I'm
going to lose two grand either way but I'm obligated it's a blood oath um I might kill myself
I think the only reason you were more successful in your sales scenarios is because I was
playing a more open-minded customer I'm a better salesman all right I'm just negotiating all sorts
of stuff now was you know I'll give it to you I'll give it to a discount $200
Wow, 50K to $200?
That's a fucking big discount.
That only lasts for 10 seconds, though.
Um, okay.
Ed, you're good?
Yeah.
There's that 50 grand.
See, that's sales for you.
It smells.
It smells.
Well, you bought it, bitch.
Get out of my store.
I fucking like lady bucks.
It's crazy.
Anyway, so that's,
when we talk?
talking about you bring up a topic you pick a topic um speaking of the whole israel
palestine thing amy schumer has been weighing in on it use that word carefully
very deliberately don't you have she been way is this before which which uh tampon commercial
had you just finished shooting uh when she did this by the way i see her in a lot of tampon
She's shot, like, and it's not just, it's not just tampon ads.
It feels like 50 versions of the same one tampon ad.
I feel like I know the answer to this, but has she done anything in her career before
tampon ads?
I do think she was briefly as...
I basically remember her not being that, but all I know we're now as is a tampon lady.
Does she do anything else?
Was she on the episode of Growing Pains?
She speaks on the Israeli-Palestinian crisis.
Oh, that's where I know we're from.
Yeah.
What does she have to say?
There you go, I'll be flowing it, puss.
Sometimes it mixes with shit.
Oh, I'm just in there.
So she got some backlash recently because...
A backrash?
I'll bet she has a bunch of backrashes.
She got some backrash for, like, kind of,
rage messaging this other celebrity
was it like Bella Hadid or something
it was like one of the
I feel like it was one of the Hadid's probably yeah
these is really right or do they know there the other thing
the other thing I'm not sure who it was but it was some like hot model
sure lady type and like
it's got like real lean and Dunham energy
and she was messaging her all these things
because she posted like
Amy Schumer posted this meme of where Palestinian protesters' signs were replaced with, like, nasty things, like, you know, like raping Israeli women for freedom or something like that.
That's not what they have on their signs.
But that wasn't, those weren't really the signs.
Right.
And so this woman kind of made fun of her for it, you know, and Amy Schumer, like, started messaging her a bunch and saying, you know, you're.
anti-Semitic
To Schumer?
One day, yeah.
Oh, she messages her, okay.
Yeah.
And so then she got a bunch of backlash for that.
Also, Martin Luther King's daughter
took issue with her.
With Amy Schumer?
Yeah.
Because she posted like a...
Is there a story for this?
Because I feel like this is getting kind of complicated.
Okay, okay.
That's all starting this.
Amy Schumer is clapping back.
The comedian 42 has been posting in support of
Israel following Hamas's deadly October 7th attack, for which Israel has retaliated with
airstrikes on Gaza, as humanitarian, protesters, and Hollywood celebs call for a ceasefire.
According to the Associated Press, more than 8,500 Palestinians and 1,400 Israelis have died
in the ongoing conflict.
On Wednesday, Schumer took to Instagram to address the backlash she's gotten over comments
on the current ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
What I want is
Every hostage back, Schumer wrote
Referring to the over 200 hostages
That Hamas snatched during their October 7th attack
I will say they should
Probably just get them back at this point
They should
I mean regardless of how you feel
I mean look the attack itself was heinous
No one's saying I mean
I guess people are saying it wasn't but it was
I mean it was sufficiently heinous
That you would think you know
This has some retaliation here right
We can disagree about how many
How much I don't but you know
There should be retaliation
what yeah i'm just saying like you know am i wrong no or you feel like i'm trying to like
take that position and then say you don't believe that no no you think i'm trying to like
messle you out despite what lucy might tell you this attack was saying no i'm just saying like
you're gonna argue like oh well they need the hostages to get back to wherever gaza i'm not
sure what what you could rationalize as they're they're trying to i guess they're trying to
prevent retaliation on Gaza but but it's already getting blown up right I'm saying
I'm saying at this point supposedly give them the best intention right right that like
they took these hostages to prevent further attack which they caused in the first place by
taking them it's not working just getting back right that's all I'm saying yeah and also look
it would be moral to give them back yeah I'm just saying but like it's not even providing a function
Like Israel's give a fuck.
Israel's,
I mean,
I'm not saying they go out of their way to shoot hostages,
but you're not like,
oh,
hostas here,
let me not,
they're just going,
you know,
they're like me.
If some homeless,
if one of my homeless pinkertons was telling me like,
oh,
they don't have oranges,
uh,
we can't steal any more oranges from the fucking corner store.
They stopped selling them.
I wouldn't accept that.
Right.
I would start waiting a gun around.
I go,
where,
let me give me an orange.
It's not really comparable.
I'm saying,
when you were,
when you were fucking, you know, big, big shot,
you got to not be reasonable.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
That makes sense.
This is the kind of analysis people have been waiting for.
Okay, so here's, just for the context, here's the,
so what has Schumer been saying?
I want all the hostas back though.
But she's been saying like,
so here's the thing about the Martin Luther King thing.
Like, after comedian Amy Schumer posted a video featuring clips of Martin Luther King,
Jr. speaking in support of Israel
and denouncing anti-Semitism, his
daughter Bernice King felt compelled to
clarify what her father's stance would be on the war
between Israel and Hamas.
Amy, certainly my father, was against anti-Semitism
as am I. He also
believed militarism, along with
racism and poverty, to be among the
interconnected triple evils.
I am certain he would call for Israel's bombing of
Palestinians to cease, for hostages
to be released and for us all the work
for true peace, which includes justice.
Well, I don't know if
am I speaking on a turn here when I say
I don't know if like
a black civil rights leader
let's just assume she's won even though
through the transit property or whatever
through dad
like if they're the best source
I'm not saying look I'm not saying that they're like
all any sematic or anything but there's a lot of
there is friction often in the black community
among you know sure I don't think
MLK was though
Jesse Jackson had an issue with Jewish people
yeah remember
I can't repeat that what he called you know
he said
remember though
yeah
right
yeah
sure sure
he was he walked with king
he did but
I mean
you think he overstates
how much you walked with him though
people people
there was a time
I don't know we still do anymore
I guess people are too old
but there was a time
when people would say
that little fucking walk with Martin Luther King
right
I guess
like that
you can't you can't question that
sure
if you think he overstated
he like walked once with them
I wouldn't try to discount
what Jesse Jackson
did
I think he was friends with him.
No, I wouldn't try to discount his role in the civil rights movement.
Yeah.
But Martin Luther King is like universally held as like the best activist in American history.
Well, he was better.
Yeah, I'm not saying that like, you know, like if this is more money and more problems,
Martin Luther King would definitely be puffed out of eating at Mace.
Right.
But Mace is still good in that song.
But it's not surprising to me that MOK was against anti-Semitism.
I don't know.
I'm not saying, like, I'm just saying, would he be the best authority?
Would you accept, well, clearly I'm against anti-Semitism?
Like, I don't know.
Just because you're a good black, you know, black civil rights doesn't mean you have, you know.
Right.
I don't know.
I'm just saying it's friction sometimes in those debates.
Right.
I mean, I didn't know that.
I think Jewish people helped out a lot of the civil rights movement.
Sure.
But there's other things that, like, you know, I don't know.
I'm going to look at the Kanye situation.
It's very, you know, you know.
tense
but go on
no but I didn't know
apparently he did like
specifically mention Israel
who did
Martin Luther King
oh really
at some point
what you say
that it has a right to exist
yeah
but it's
but you know
okay
seems odd if he had to point
to that though
like why
I feel like
I feel like
that
do you think
do you think
Martin Luther King
secretly hated Jews
no
well no I don't think that
I'm
just saying i just feel like i mean the fact that he said that i mean like it seems like
why are you even have to say that i mean a lot of people were saying it at the time i think
i i i think if it went without saying he wouldn't have said it that's what i'm saying he wouldn't have said it's
what I'm saying.
If it went without saying,
he wouldn't have said it.
I love how it's
your mind is wild, man.
What?
It's just like, we started talking about this.
I mean, it's great.
It just turns into
something I thought would be, you know,
turn into you lightly mocking Amy Schumer,
turns into you pulling a whole investigation
on Martin Luther King and his sentiments.
I'm, no, I have no problem.
I'm not to doubt.
I don't think what Martin Luther King said.
I'm just saying if it went without saying he wouldn't have said it.
I'm just saying it's like, it's not like, oh, of course, like, you know,
because he's a black civil rights leader,
he should have some kind of, like,
I don't know if she can necessarily like question or say,
well, you know, well, Martin Luther King would have said, you know,
stop the bombing.
Like, yeah, he's, like, I'm saying he may not be the biggest Israel supporter ever.
It's not the same, it's not the same thing as like, you know,
gold in my ear would have said stop the bombing
that would hold more weight I feel like
sure you know hey you know
Moshe Dianne would have wanted the bombing to stop
you know motion Diane was
um
look up motion Dian he was the old Israeli
defensive minister with the eye patch great
great little guy
oh wow
yeah this is backward Israel had like a romantic
like almost like you know
Like a pirate's thing going on.
Do you trust a military leader more if they have an eye patch?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he might even if he fell on, you know, during a late night snack,
getting a cracker and like, you know, hit it on the corner of a counter.
I'm kind of surprised that we haven't had a president with an eye patch yet.
I mean, it's fucking, this guy, I think, milked.
I mean, I suspect he might have milked it pretty hard.
I don't know most as I am, like, much about him.
I don't know he was one of them, you know, when they did the whole Munich post-munic thing.
They got revenge he was like him and golden mayor
They were in charge and they were like
Let's get this shit going
Um ruthless people
Do you think whenever he was in an argument
He would point out he would point at the patch
I would think so
Yeah I mean you wonder but you can you can envision
I'm a very cynical person
So I see a guy like that with the eye patch so prominent
I go like you know was he really a nerd
He's just like he like you know working the kitchen
Who knows what happens I mean
Or did he like fucking is even real
Does he actually have a working eye under there?
Right.
I just, I just, I question these things.
But that being said, it's a great look.
It's a great, you know.
So if this guy came out with like,
hey, actually, we should stop the bombing.
I think it would hold more weight
than Martin Luther King said it.
That's all I'm saying.
And this guy was the Israeli defense minister.
Sure.
I'm not trying to undersell Martin Luther King.
Yeah, it would be more shocking.
We hold more way.
I mean, like,
Martin Luther the King might think Israel's rights to exist
but isn't, like, the biggest supporter of older policies.
Right.
Like, Israel, you got to admit, Israel wants, like, a high,
they have a high, they have a high commitment threshold.
They, like, America funds them incredibly high, you know,
billions a year.
We, you know, we veto any, you, anytime of the UN questions,
I think they did, we veto it immediately.
Right.
A security account.
Yeah, they still kind of treat us like assholes.
Well, yeah, but, all right.
I'm just saying, but also, like, the level of, like,
we want your unwavering commitment here
during the situation.
I'm not even complaining.
I'm observing.
It's high.
It's a high threshold.
So I don't know the day,
like they're,
I don't know that they would be happy
with Bartlett King's level of like,
you know, car blanche.
Oh, I'm sure they wouldn't.
I think that's the point she was making.
I think,
I think Amy Schumer was using an out-of-context clip
to try and make it look like this guy
was some Israeli nationalist or something.
Oh, she was trying to say,
Marley the King would bomb everyone?
That he would support
like Israel unconditionally here.
Oh, I didn't catch that part of it.
I mean, that was the implication.
Oh, I didn't, wait.
Did I miss that part?
Oh, maybe.
I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I was the daughter
just kind of messaged her out nowhere.
Hey, by the way, my dad would not want you to keep doing this.
I missed, I must have been thinking about bumblebees
when I heard that, you said that part.
No, yeah, so she posted that clip.
Oh, Martin King going like bomb the Gaza
I'll turn it to glass
I have a dream
But Gaza
Well, that all exists
No
Yeah, so Schumer
Do you think that in Yahoo's happy?
Give me the ribbons
I'll open for you
Thank you
I have no nails
Ray has to open all my cans
Well, we can just not explain that
Now you have to why you have no nails
Now you have to say
because otherwise...
For the same reason, everybody doesn't have nails.
I bite them.
Okay.
I don't people think I'm like ripping your nails off
like your P or W.
Bamboos shoots.
That's something people would think, by the way.
You think people would just automatically assume that?
A certain percentage of people would.
It's not...
You know it's luxury being a woman.
No one would assume that about you.
That you rip your spouse's
fingernails apart.
people there's probably a percentage of people who assume even now that i'm the one biting your
fingernails one time i and i kind of i if anything i'm the one who's it was closer to have done that
because even though i would never rip your fingernails out there was one time where i was kind
of admiring your sick long fingernails they're not long they're just not just no but they're
sick like they're calcium rich sure and what you do i don't remember this and i was kind of like
I started started
kind of admiring it
and I feel like I did
kind of lightly
pull on the tip or something
like leave me alone
right yeah they were
I think it needed to be cut
that's a good point
they were a little longer than usual
they needed to be cut
and you started
kind of like pulling on them
it's very scott
it's creepy as hell
yeah
those of you who I know
there's lonely men out there
and you'll figure it out
it'll happen
you'll find your
happiness
but there's lonely
they go wow I would
you know
I would trade
the world to have some woman
awkwardly pulling on my fingernail. No, you
wouldn't. It feels terrible. It was a moment of
pure, pure uncomfortableness.
Pure discomfort.
Maybe. Maybe you'd make the trade.
I guess it's a net positive
or life together.
Thank you. I really appreciate you.
saying that but I'm saying but if all you have is that moment like I would just accept that
like if you're real cock about it which you shouldn't don't let yourself so short even if you're
lonely that I would take that only that well don't think only that because that sucks right
that moment of like someone pulling on your fingernails horrible yeah I don't think that you should
stand for that no but no I would you I would never let you continue to do that I have self
respect as soon as I realized what I was doing I felt bad about but like it was demonic
I thought you were trying to, like, you know, do some witch stuff.
Do you raise fingernail or newt?
Some virgin blood?
I don't know.
I could solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with that.
Why don't you say?
And yet you won't let me perform it.
Well, I think that shows what you're about.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
If you guys need my fingernails and some witchcraft, I'm not into this.
so what happens amy schumer still around
she's dead
do you think that yeah who's happy she's doing this
um i don't i can't imagine
do you think she's like making a lot of people like israel more
i can't imagine that's the case yeah
imagine like imagine being on the fence and then seeing amy schumer
right
he's what i don't understand it's like
just like you
I mean, she's doing the worst version of this,
which is just, like, literally taking any criticism of Israel
and saying it's anti-Semitic.
I feel like not all, like, not even all people
who, like, support Israel do that.
No, no, a lot, but it doesn't mean that,
pointing aside doesn't mean that we, like, don't support Israel.
Right.
Now, like, I'm not even going to say what I do.
I'm calling about it.
No, it's like, we don't have a, I mean,
yeah, I don't think you should be able to do what Hamas did.
Israel doesn't need us support.
No, I mean, let's say, it's just like, it's just, yeah, like Hamas, that, that attack definitely
demanded retaliation.
Yeah.
What's that retaliation look like how long was it go on for is a question.
Also, separately, you know, once you retaliate and you kind of establish that, you know,
because no one should put up with that, no matter what you did before.
No one, I don't care how, how, how much you beat up a kid, you know, he can't, he can't, like,
you know, like, medilate your mother.
Right.
You know, that's that cool.
Yeah, and also, like, to be fair, like, I don't know.
I'm coming out of it from the perspective of, like, if I can, you know,
criticize my own government after 9-11 happens.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to, yeah, of course.
No, yeah.
No, yeah, exactly, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Whatever.
My point is, uh, I'm actually helping my saying, like, don't, you know, no,
Amy Schumer's not winning hearts and minds.
Maybe back when she was, like, making jokes about Mike Tyson being a rapist or whatever.
Right.
you know back in those fun roasts yeah era but but tampon salesman amy schumer is not winning
hearts of minds yeah so maybe put her on the bench coach that's what i'm saying
you think you think if she were heard this podcast she would she would you know um she'd be eating
a bunch of cheetos while she was doing it
i don't know if that would me eating a bunch of cheese dip that was that you got you got her
Yeah, I was a little turn around.
Like, oh, do you think you should be offended?
I said, do you think she should be cheating?
I don't know.
Um, I'm no.
I mean, am I a fan of Amy Schumer?
No.
Oh, I was going to say yes.
I mean, Trayreck was all right.
Wasn't it?
Not that, but that you're a fan.
Oh, I like you.
I was offended her in the past.
And at this point, a distant past kind of, but, you know,
right.
She used to be kind of fun.
You didn't defend her so much
As you just verbally abused those who hated her
Well, there'd be guys at open mics
Who would be like, you know
Oh, Amy Schumer's not funny
And it's like, and like
If it was like the funny guy
The open mic
Which still means nothing in the end of the day
Like, I mean one thing
But it wasn't even that
Some guy couldn't even get like
Like couldn't even get like a fucking
People that Open mic don't like him
Right
It's a fucking real loser
He's telling him like newer losers
Like oh you know
I'm like Amy Schumer
I'm like
Oh she's really awful
I don't think she's funny at all
I was like
What I don't know
I really want to say who it was anyway.
This is a little scumbag.
I have no respect for this guy.
But what did you say to him?
Oh, you said, like, we do you talk about it?
I mean, Schumerer.
I was like, I started laughing at the little fuck himself.
I don't know.
I was drunk.
I was, I was a mean person sometimes.
I don't think that makes me that mean.
No.
I said worse things.
I said worse things, so I'm not mean.
Anyway.
Where are we leaving this?
I mean, do you think, is Moshe died Diane alive?
Let's see.
All it has, it doesn't even have his life.
Usually they have his life right at the top.
Yeah.
Oh, he died in 81.
Oh, it's a long time ago.
Well, I wonder if he were supported Israel.
Probably, right?
Yeah.
If you're the iPatch having IDF, the IDF, you probably support Israel.
Yeah, probably.
Imagine imagine me trying to make the case
Moshe Diane wouldn't support this war
Moshe Tayaan would have defected to Hamas
That's probably not true
The one thing you got to say about Israel
They don't have a lot of defectors
Not a lot of people defect away from Israel
They're pretty good at that
I feel like we have more defectors
You don't see some Israeli guy joining up with Hamas
But you did see there was that guy John Walker
Who joined Al Qaeda
Remember?
Or Taliban maybe
Maybe join the Taliban.
Look up John Walker.
American Taliban, I guess.
He joined, he was.
Oh, yeah, Taliban American.
John Walker Lund.
I just, I put that name out of my back.
Well, yeah.
What happened to that guy?
Is he alive?
John Walker Lind spent his formative years
in an affluent.
This is like a People magazine article
from like 1987.
What are we looking at here?
This is like the weirdly,
most weirdly formatted website.
This is obviously,
in the early 2000s.
Yeah.
He's going to be Wikipedia.
I wonder if he's,
they're not going to know if he's alive.
He was eventually caught.
I wonder if he's dead or not.
They have a picture of him after he's been captured, though.
Yeah, but I mean, like, you know,
he wouldn't say if he's dead or not.
I'll say it takes a few years to convict someone of the treason,
typically.
There we go, see.
So where is he a Supermax?
Oh, where is he now?
Oh, what's that picture in the middle?
Oh, damn.
Let me see.
that what is that that that's him he's a he's like belt belted to a journey yeah wow is that him
in the taliban or is that him when he called him i think that's him when we caught me he's funny
me that was a taliban halban did that's one i want to join you uh Lynn photographed after
being transported to camp rhino that's us right camp rhino I guess yeah
the rhinos have him
where is he
um so oh it's okay so right now he's
in prison there you go
released oh he's released
what what happened read this
uh and on may 23rd
2019 Lynn was released early for good
behavior from the Tara hot
Indiana federal prison
prior to the end of his 20 year sentence
wow so he was released early
we should get him on the show
yeah can we get john lind on the john walker lind
jesus christ you think you should make him third mike
yeah i mean
yeah why isn't anyone has anyone tried to talk to him
i mean i think it'd be a fascinating interview
whereas ask him i just try to get him to like you know um
go in the business with me
whatever we say
what if it's like
Taliban Taffy
that's your face
The cover is him in the in the
On the gurney
I'm on the gurney
Yeah
And it's just Taliban Taffy
It's like
It's like made with
Company owned by John Morgreland
The American Taliban
Oh my God
The logo is him in the gurney
And his mouth is stuffed with
Taffy.
Wow.
I love it.
Yeah.
This is a really good idea.
All right.
Well, the American Taffy.
He accepted several probation requirements due to his continued support of Islamist ideology.
What does that mean ideology?
Like he...
So I guess he was like, I won't try to join the Taliban anymore, but I still believe in their thing.
Was it just mean that he's Islamic?
Oh, it might just mean that he's Islamic.
I mean, it's been.
Bad that he did what he did, I guess.
I'm not sure exactly what he did,
but I assume trying to join the Taliban,
even in hindsight.
Even though we don't, like,
there's no part of me was ever like the Taliban
with the good guys, you know?
So whatever.
That being said,
it still seems weird
that they did try to get him
and not be Islamic anymore.
Yeah.
I feel you shouldn't be allowed to ask that.
I was assuming they meant, like,
you know, support of Islamic extremism.
Maybe, but isn't that, isn't that,
isn't that highlighted?
Islamic ideology
Islamist ideology
Islaman's ideology
Is a real
Yeah okay it's a religious political ideology
It advocates for Islamism
And is dedicated to realizing
Their ideological interpretation of Islam
Within the context of the state
Okay so they want an Islamic state
Which I have plenty of
I mean the one thing is you know
Keep saying there's only one Israeli state
It's like 25
Or whatever Muslim states
Right
I guess that's true
I mean there are a lot of Muslim states
I'm not sure what my point is.
Anyway.
This is just interesting.
These requirements included a ban from internet use and contact.
Is he a hacker?
Yeah.
And contact with fellow extremists.
Mm.
So we can't go to the meetups anymore.
What if it's other,
what if it's an extreme crypto guys?
Guys who's really into like NTFs.
Can you get into NFTs?
Yeah.
Can he buy a board ape?
Yeah.
that's i think it's pretty at a certain point you could have argued it was a moderate position than
want a board date yeah now but before and after you know it's pretty extreme in my opinion
like if you wanted to buy a board date now i'd call you an idiot right not you
i'd probably find a better way to say it was you um anyway that's crazy so can we get them
on the show you think maybe we're gonna try we're gonna look at see we can give the
the american taliban on the show do you think they'd consider us
fellow extremists.
Yeah, that's the problem.
He's like, you know, not in any sense.
We weren't, we're not allied with him, but, you know,
we have our own old things going on, our own views on water sports.
I don't know.
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