Kump - Ep. 159 Truest Crime

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Ray and Lucie discuss Epstein, Gypsy Rose, Jonathan Majors, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Hello and welcome to Kump. Hello. Well, Lucy. Hi. Welcome back, everyone. We are back on YouTube with video. This is our new format. uh it's taking a long you know it's worth the weight i think yeah people if you don't think so

and uh you can go eat a bridge or swallow a swallow something uh you're not supposed to welcome back uh you know we we were so excited for this new year this new age of comp media uh we got a lot of exciting things to talk about people have been you know clamoring uh I've been dark on X. It sounds ominous. But I haven't been doing much tweeting or whatever you call it. What do you call it now, Xing? I don't want to be like the guy.

Now, like, a lot of Musk is an engineer a situation where everyone has to sound like a crotchy old man. Right. Like, why do I call it? I mean, I guess no one else is doing that. Everyone just accepts the reality. Yeah, it's really, it's not enough to just change the name. You have to do a whole rebrand. You have to come up with a new name for the, for the tweets.

I need, yeah, I need to know what it is when I retweet. They call it repost. Stupid. I need to know what I, you know, what it is when I, when I, when I, my tweet at food celebrities and I, and I call them, you know, pirates. I drunkenly, I just accuse them of, I accuse them of poisoning children. And then asking, you know, and then try to blackmail them with just, you know, I don't even have, I don't even Photoshop evidence.

I just, I just try to claim, I'm a comment, I have information. One day, I'm going to hit the jackpot. One of these Food Network celebrities that I accused, as I say, I know you're poisoning children. They're going to be like, oh, how much you want? I thought you were going to say that it still wouldn't be noble. I thought you were going to say they were going to get caught and then you'd get credit for being like the pressure.

No, I'm just trying to lazily and randomly blackmail people. This is just overt blackmail. Yeah, but very lazy. Not even like, I mean, you could, I could play a game where I, take a guy Fieri's face and I put it on a guy poisoning uh I mean it's probably not a lot of pictures of guys on the internet poisoning uh rivers or wells in uh in in in third world but if there is one I'll put his face on there it's not having the same race you know and I'll just be like I'll put this out on the internet oh please don't here have a free hot dog I'm on my

restaurants that'd be that be exciting uh for me uh but I don't even do that's what you do for a free hot dog I mean look I'll take what I can get is my point but I don't even do that i don't even try to make fake evidence i just kind of hint and hope they get the free hot dog right so you know i mean look at that point you might as well just you know buy the hot dog put a gun in their face and say give me a hot dog i think they put a gun in my face you're all right that's usual you're correct lucy uh might as well just i mean this is really worth it what am what am i keeping this going for good point uh if you've missed us um well we're back but just so you know some people often go

well when you're when you're not here or you have your patreon at patreon.com slash ray comp when you're not posting on uh youtube or or iTunes wherever Spotify is the patron the patron is still going and now it's a perfect time then because there's a backlog of episodes you don't know about that we've been going the whole time uh so you can go check this for five bucks a month This is like getting like a million episodes for nothing. Five bucks, for five bucks you can buy a hot dog from Guy Fierry. Or you can get like dozens of hours. I mean, there's hundreds of hours of content on that Patreon.

If you've never subscribed, there's so much, so much. Yeah. It's absurd. There's a lot of episodes. And the last one, sweet soup of success. Oh, right. I mean, it's pretty great. It's an amazing episode.

You try to invent. the whole genre of food that is both disgusting and disturbing. And, you know, look, could sweet, I don't even want to get into this. That's for, like, people who are used to us. I'm trying to get people on board. I don't want to discuss what sweet soup is all about.

That's a great point. All right? So just know it's out there. It's part of this re-event. Maybe I'll have some graphics next time I mentioned the Patreon. And you go, look, this is here. Here's a visual cue. They can see the visual cue.

But not yet. I've been telling you for years our lack of visual cues are holding us back. You think you're joking, though, but that is what's holding us. I mean, we need to be doing Simon Says with our, I was watching a game. I have his NBA league pass on the YouTube TV. What am I doing commercials for YouTube? Which we're on YouTube. It's all so incestuous.

And I forget what, you know, what smaller market team it was, maybe Indiana, maybe Oklahoma City. one of those teams usually when you're watching a game on like national TV or whatever or even on like you know the New York feet if you watch it on MSG they'll have like a halftime show I guess they don't have one in Oklahoma City or whatever

sorry to slander your state but whatever it was they don't have any performers there I guess what happened will usually see like we go into games and you see like performers like we were in New Orleans over the holidays oh they were great and we saw we went to a Pelicans game when there was a jazz band playing. I mean, it was nice.

It was cool, but they don't show that in TV, usually. They have, like, a halftime. They go, they need to score more baskets. Whatever. Or less baskets, maybe, if that's their strategy. But in this case, they showed it, and it was just a game of Simon Says. There was just some guy who was, like, you know, puffing and puffing around with, like, he had a couple cheerleaders and hype guys, and one of the players, and a bunch of fat fans,

and they were just, he was doing Simon Says. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I feel like if we, like, we could target the people who like that. And I'm not saying it's bad. It's just like, why are we trying to compete with like the best of the best? Let's compete with the middle. Like, you know what I mean? And I don't know, look.

I don't know what a great game of Simon says would look like. But like, he was not putting a lot of effort into it towards the end. He was just arbitrarily. Well, to be fair, he had to reteach these people the rules. A great game of anything requires people who, like, do it. Right. You know, like, you have to, I don't encourage. I would not want to be a guy who practice.

is the place Simon says. But, I mean, that's how you'd get good. You'd be watching and going, you know, not for nothing, but these people are really good at Simon says. Like, no one's missed for hours. Right. You know, that's what it would be. Because it's not that complicated of a game.

So you'd just be watching, like, it would be, it would be impressive. Honestly, it was more like a North Korean sport, in my opinion. And you'd have people just, and it would go on four days. Yeah. And it would not, it would be more, it would be more impressive but they're still standing.

Right. Right. And then like the adherence of the rules, that's just built in through years and years of a different kind of program. And we have our own thing. You know, we, we, we're programmed with like, you know, nacho cheese and, you know, Guy Fieri hot dogs or whatever. But, and no Koreans have, you know, it's more of a brutish conditioning.

So, you know, we wouldn't last a day. I'd be done at least. I would last two hours of motion, Simon says. So, okay, are we alienated enough people? Yeah. I'd be discussing Simon says for 10 minutes as far as the new rebrand, the Kump rebrand. Checklist.

Simon says, 10 minute discussion, check. How have you been, Lucy? I've been good, yeah. That's good. what's what I'm excited for these for these Epstein docs you're excited for the Epstein docs this is yeah people have been hit me up on Twitter that's why I brought up Twitter initially people are going why where have you been comp we need you these Epstein docks dropped I don't know why you need me that's a compliment they need you they

need your they need your analysis my biggest analysis has been this guy is a bad guy and they probably killed them which I don't think I'm unique in I mean I I'm flattered but I don't know what insight you think I'm going to add to this. So you're saying you don't think the official narrative is quite... Well, we have some names that we think got left off, perhaps. And we're going to get to that in a minute. I guess first, let's just refresh people, I guess, on what... So you want to discuss this Epstein thing?

I thought we're going to brush it under the rug. So you want to discuss it? We'll discuss it. All right. This is the biggest names from Jeffrey Epstein's unsealed court documents. you want you want to take us through this sure I don't know what this guys this guy's we don't have to watch him he's uh the names of acquaintances and associates of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein by the way I was reading a Reuters article yeah where they refer

him as late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein I thought that was kind of funny I prefer I'm pretty early the early sex offender Jeffrey Epstein his early work Jesus the late sex offender I mean uh well I guess that's yeah they keep calling him a finance I mean, what did he, what is he known to have financed? Because, I mean, we just refer, we think of bankers and financiers now is very generic. But, I mean, like, J.P. Morgan was, like, the guy who financed Edison, right? And, like, Weston House, was he, was he a financier? He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he took a work for, for that point is, there was a time when, like, J.P. Morgan was a guy going, like, that's the guy who financed Edison.

right right what did he what the Epstein finding what besides you know the plains and the islands did he like was he behind slapchop that would be interesting that is a good you know what that's a good question right yeah what did he finance i mean i look i'm sure he did it it's just it seems like no one really cares about that anymore no one puts the emphasis on what what did you what were you into what was your gimmick financier does it doesn't necessarily mean you're financing things people need right right right I mean, if you are just financing illegal sex for politicians and celebrities, you could probably make a good living as a finance.

You're doing that. No, of course you could. I don't think that was his day job or his whole day job. I think he probably did a few mortgages or I don't know. Or he probably invested in a couple of Facebook clones or maybe, maybe what was like J-Date, perhaps. Oh, yeah, maybe he was behind J-Dade. You think he went, you only think he went to, you went to the whole web bubble and didn't invest in a single day. a website while he was doing the other stuff you know he probably he might have got his hands

and pets dot com lost a little money you know maybe maybe uh what's another one you know from back then oh uh what what was the one that uh price line price line with william shatner maybe he was the guy who suggested he maybe he was a start maybe geoffrey i've seen in his private time his less you know uh controversial private time was a trekey and he liked william shatner they why don't you get William Shatner to do some poetry during thepriceline.com commercials. I'm your financier. Listen to me. And, you know, and I guess it shows, if that's true, it shows that he wasn't putting

all his eggs in the financier basket. Because really, a good financier wouldn't have made such a blunder if that was what he, but we don't know. Yeah. This is speculation. So what we're left with is the names. Right. Right.

The names of acquaintances and associates of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, including that of former U.S. presidents and British royalty, were released on Wednesday evening in a set of court documents that were part of a suit against Jislane Maxwell in 2015. Now, I'm told, I've read that a lot of these names, just because someone's in this cache of documents, it doesn't mean that they're up to no good, that these are some of these people,

these names were his accusers or lawyers involved in the case. Now that could be something like Prince Andrew might have said, for instance. Like, hey, now everyone named here is guilty of anything. I don't know. I know when the first names I saw was,

was DiCaprio. I don't know if he, is he even into young people? Who, what would he, what do he possibly have? Isn't he famously into like older women? Yeah, no, he's a famous cougar hound. Yeah.

But, you know, what am I do? So let's take a look at some of these names. I do know that, like, there's an accuser who accused, like, it was, she accused Bill Clinton and Prince Andrews explicitly. Right. And the defense tried to basically discredit her, as is their job, I guess. Yeah. But it was kind of interesting, like, certain articles just started calling her discredited accuser. Oh, just because they said it.

Just because that's what they were trying to. who wrote that article that's that's a very big clue yeah NBC oh yeah let's look into that journalist first quote unquote um anyway go on let's let's let's get let's stop beating around the bush or else we'll be accused of sweeping things under the the documents the first and more than 200 that are expected to be unsealed over the next few days are part of the defamation lawsuit filed by victim, Virginia Roberts, Gryry. I don't know.

Let's just get to the names. We don't need a preamble. I feel like they make the accuser's names hard to pronounce on purpose. We just get to the names. Yeah, where are these names? Okay, names of figures that were previously associated with that.

This feels like a guy who a kid who wrote a fucking goddamn like book report who just didn't read the book. And he's just talking about, there are a lot of names. this thing. Give me the names. Where did that? What the documents reveal? Skip down to that. We're reading too much preamble here. This is like that Scorsese movie from this year. Too long.

For the most part, the documents say little about the actions taken by individuals outside of Epstein. Though there is a 2016 deposition from Joanna Schallberg, one of Epstein's victims, that mentions politicians and figureheads in the U.S. abroad. Well, celebrities like Bruce Willis. Who wrote this Georgia or her, Martin? Get to it. Get to them. Get to names. Keep scrolling. King Charles and Third. Is that one of them? Oh, that's actually the king, isn't it? Okay. I thought it's an historical king. Well, celebrities like Bruce Willis, Cameron Diaz, Cape Blanchett, Kevin. Cameron Diaz was one with the kids? Is that true? Is that something about Mary?

I didn't realize this was what they meant. That's the something? You know, there's something about Mary. Oh, and she's, like, really cute, and then she's kind of cool. And they ate bread far off? No, she went to this island. Oh. Kevin Spacey, Naomi Campbell, and Leonardo DiCaprio were also mentioned in the records.

They have not yet, they have not been accused of helping Epstein in any capacity. Well, it's not that they had to have helped him. Well, yeah. They just had to have enjoyed the fruits of his evil labor. Yeah. Right. Well, I think part of the gimmick is, to be fair. I don't need to be too fair,

because I don't think DiCaprio would ever come to my aid with rhetorical defense. But to be fair, I think when you're into the whole, you know, intelligence, honey pot, you know, using children as sexual blackmail, in the milieu with intelligence services, perhaps, you know, with Lex Wexner and perhaps massage, I don't know, these, these are just being accused over the years, you know, I think part of the thing would be to kind of create a milieu of people

that, like, you know, where you have different trunches of like, like, maybe it's possible that certain people just came to an island and they thought it was just an island where, you know, adult women were kind of exploited or enjoyed. Or just, like, exploited in the Hollywood way. Right, yeah. There's different levels of it.

And so, who knows? I guess that's possible. So that is like, you know, I don't think every single person, it would be hard to get everyone. How do you even figure out who's into that? Right. It's like some of these people by, well, look, maybe having a bachanol of any kind is a little expected.

And maybe the idea is that he, like, once he got a little exposed, that was part of the point maybe. I don't know. I'm just purely speculating. But the idea is like, hey, you're, like, we'll do this for 10 years. And then it comes out, like, there's the Epstein Island. Before he got caught, though, for real. Like before it was a real, but there was a hint, right?

Right. And then he goes to, you know, the Cabrio, I guess before he did, like, you know, catch me if you can. And it's like, hey, you came to my island. Like, he has a lot of fun. Hey, you know what I'm accused of? Do you want me? No. Like, I mean, tax evasion?

No. Anyway, if you don't want people to be, you know, you've been to play ball. I don't know what DeCabrio gives you in that case. Maybe he, maybe he introduces you to other people. I don't know. Right. Maybe he spies. Hey, if you want to play.

Matt and Mouse with Tom Hanks again. I bet you could caprio. I bet you DeCaprio would get, not every world leader, but a lot of world leaders in a room. Sure. And he can just wear a dumb wire. Like,

you, you, like, he basically do the party with the King of Jordan. He's like, you know, he's just like,

I mean, so, I mean, it could be very useful. The Caprio, like, there was a time when DeCaprio, because now he's a little over the hill.

But there was a time when he was a lot of fun for that, that type of guy. You know, I bet, like, a lot of kings would want to hang out with DiCaprio. Oh, yeah. And probably still would. Or Brad Pitt, right?

And I don't know if Brad Pitt's involved in this. For sure. So, you know, it's like, you know, hey, we're going to tell everyone that you were on this island unless you wear this. And like, it's just a really old watch. It's not even a good, like, discreet microphone. It's just one of the big flowers that shoots water. Right. But it's got microphones inside of it.

Something, you know. I don't know. Um, anyway. Showberg was only. asked if she had met. Kevin Spacey's one of them. I mean, he's at least been accused of other stuff. Right.

Not just, not just, you know. It's hard for me to imagine Cameron Diaz being like, bring me a child. That's why she's so good at it. Yeah. Because she's playing against type. Sure. Kids don't see it coming. She gets to their offenses down.

Showberg was only asked if she had met the aforementioned people, which she denied. connections to Epstein previously led high-level executives to resign from their positions, including Barclay's chief executive, Jess Staley. Jean-Luc Brunel, a French modeling agent suspected of scouting girls for Epstein, killed himself in a Paris jail in 2002 while awaiting trial for rape accusation. Do we know if he was depressed or not? Because, like, you know, I don't want to just slander. You know, John Luke Brunel just because he was depressed.

Right. Perhaps he just, uh, did they, give the possible he was on like you know one of these prozac or something and then in the paris jail wouldn't give it to him um i guess yeah that's always possible or is it possible he did everything they accused him of and he was caught and he just that's all i'm just i'm just who knows i wonder is like i've never i haven't heard of this one like is there like a is there any theories about brunwell i don't know people think i'm an encyclopedia this stuff i don't I'm not the guy who's been leading the chart.

I mean, I thought he, when he died, it seems like they killed him. You're going to need to start mainlining this Epstein news. I know. It's very depressing. It's part of your reputation. I've said for years you should not be allowed to do anything with kids, even raised them.

So I don't know what people want from me. I think kids should be raised by robots in Ohio in some kind of school made by LeBron James. That's where my kids are going to be raised. raised, and I think everyone else, and it shouldn't cost a lot of money, but LeBron pay for. He likes paying for things in Ohio, which is all, I mean, how do we fix the U.S. economy? We just get everyone to register as a poor kid in Ohio, and the LeBron James will pay

for everything. Yeah. That's a side note. I don't, you know, that doesn't normally fit into the course of episodes, but that's, that is an idea that I have. I'll, maybe we'll flush that out later. But he likes, he's very good. He makes these very good schools for, you know, underprivileged kids.

Well, to be fair, didn't they kind of, didn't they not perform so well? I didn't hear that. Is that true? Yeah. Are you sure I heard of it? When I first heard about that. Are you sure you not referring to the Lakers? Maybe I'm mixing them up.

You can see his school with Russell Restbrook and on the Lakers. No, I was like, when I first heard about those schools, I was like, that sounds, that sounds great. Yeah. And I think, I don't know. Well, I mean, look. There's no like, there's no like actual nice idea that ever works out. Well, if you really want your kid to do well in school and you have the option, and you have the options. Send him to an educator, not a basketball player. I mean, he's doing his best.

But he's not, you know, he went to college for, no, he didn't actually. He was like the last guy to not go to college. Here was their mistake, right? They did all the, they addressed all of the economic issues beautifully. Right. They just, they just forgot to teach anything at the school. Yeah. They didn't bring your bicycles. Here's out of drift. I mean, honestly, that would probably pay off better. Yeah, maybe. They go play in Europe or China. or something. Sure. Honestly,

we should teach our kids to play basketball. And this sounds disparaging because honestly, the leagues, the world's basketball is moving. I don't want to say

ahead of America, but it's going that direction. The last five MVP's been foreign-born players. But there might still, but they're all coming here. So maybe if we can get our kid and we,

if we have a kid, we don't have one. That's not an new announcement. But if we do, and we train him but we tell him you'll never play in the NBA I don't care how good you are

you're never going to you just don't even imagine that possibility but maybe he can make a 50 grand a year in like you know Serbia because like yeah well you know Nikola Joke you know what's the name? Yokic is from Serbia

the current you know the reigning finals MVP two time regular season MVP that's right and where does he play here we got the spot missing over there You really are like Wonder Years' father material. Well, what do you want me to tell them? I mean, I'm not particularly tall and you are.

You're not. I'm not tall, but I got some tall jeans in my family. We could have a giant. Well, maybe we can cut their legs off and glue them to our kids' legs. I don't have a chance. You know, if they'll consent to that. Can we do some kind of like Gattaca surgery? You're just like, is that what happens?

You take a tall man's bones and you just break your child's bones. I'll have a doctor do this. The kid just kind of uses the bones of stilts. Right. Yeah. But then, like, over time, if you, like, put glue in the middle or something, I don't know. Is there anyone who plays basketball on stilts? Like, there's somebody, like, there's.

No. Wait, in the NBA? Well, look, people do all kinds of crazy things on stilts. Oh, like, Harlem Globetrotters? Oh, yeah, like, did they ever do that? I don't think so. Play basketball on. Probably not, but I mean, you can look it up.

But I mean, I'm sure if someone's done it. Look, still, people on stilts to have an aside are always looking for attention. There's the only reason to be on stilts. So I'm sure someone on stilts has tried to do that. Right. I mean, it goes hand in hand. You're tall. Everyone thinks tall is good for basketball.

Sure. But I digress. We were talking about the most important, you know, criminal case. perhaps of the century. So maybe we should go back to that. Yeah. Okay. I am intrigued by the stilts thing, though.

I do want to see a video. I'm dunking on stilts. The documents on Wednesday confirmed the scale of both Epstein's alleged a sex trafficking ring and his powerful social network. Prince Andrew, the younger brother of King Charles III, was one of the names referenced in the documents, mentioned by a witness for touching her breast. I'm pretty sure I think that's bad

but there's worse stuff right I don't want to be the I imagine it can't just be that that can't be the smoking gun I feel like they must be like hyper focusing on certain details because there's more like corroboration or something it does seem like you know

if I was Prince Andrews lawyer which I'm not and ever would be because you know I don't take I don't do business with the queen but that being said I might be like, look, this guy is, you know, the worst sexual blackmailer and, you know, he's right next to the devil. And all you got on my guy is he touched the, I mean, it sounds like I'm equivocating him. I'm just saying it's like it does seem like you're focusing on Prince, you know, maybe focus on the meat first.

Right. That's just trying to get the most famous people. You know what I'm trying to say here? Well, it's hard to tell what's the meat. Is the meat, is the meat the biggest name that did something criminal? Or is the meat just the worst thing that happened no matter who did it? Well, here's my, that's what I'm saying is I feel like the second thing is worse. Right.

The worst, you know, and, you know. And it probably wasn't a janitor who did that, right? It was probably also an influential person, right? I mean, it does seem odd that he would go all the way to an island to do that. So it's probably more. Right. Right. It just seems weird that this is like five years later.

Right. He's been disgraced for years. And they're still saying that. Right. I think he didn't. I just, like the case is, it's the shame. There should be more, it should be more information. Well, look, if you bring underage girls to an island.

Right. For the purposes of having Prince Charles grope them. Right. It does seem pretty bad, honestly. Like, it's not, like, it's not, maybe not the worst thing your imagination would go to. But that's still, like, why they brought them there. No, I get it. I'm just, I'm just, um,

Yeah, I understand. You want something really dark. I don't want it dark. I'm just, I feel like we're getting to the point where it's just, you know, I think people are getting,

if you just start talking about the most famous thing, which of course is going to have the least evidence probably. Right. Because everyone's real, no one wants to talk about the king, you know,

the prince, right? You get the small stuff and then you work up, he was there and then you get that and then he connected. Like RICO. That's what I'm trying to get out here.

Yeah. We need like RICO. Sex RICO. Sex RICO. Yes. We need it. Sex, Rico. It's the very least we should make a show called that. Yeah.

Where it's like a science fiction show where people actually, you know, get convicted for hurting children. I don't know. I'm just saying, you know, it just seems like when this prince is, like, how long is this trial going to take? Are we going to get this guy or not, is my point. Also, it does get a little worse in the next paragraph. So.

Well, okay. Andrew was also previously accused of, of raping geo-free. Lead with that. Lead with that. There's so many victims. Just like, Andrew, don't have a whole paragraph where it's like, oh, he touched this. And then later on go, oh, he also rapes them.

Just lead with that. And then we'll move on to Kevin Spacey or whoever. You know? This seems like Time Magazine is just not really prioritizing the information. Right. Well, maybe there's a reason for that. I don't even know who runs time. What is this?

I was going to make a Doctor Who joke, but that seems dumb. Doesn't seem appropriate right now. But this is all, we knew Prince Andrew was up to no good. What are the new names? Right. This is why I don't get involved as I should, because I have too many good ideas that no one listens to, and then there's no one ever gets to the new names.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, and now it seems like, They're just reiterating, like, the, the... Just scroll, it's probably a very long article. Just keep school. Bill Clinton. All right, we've heard about him. Right.

But is there new stuff about Bill Clinton? I think he was on the plane like 40 times I've heard, but I don't know. I thought he was, if you asked me how many times I really guessed that. I don't know. Trump was apparently on the plane. Michael Jackson. Have we heard about him before? I might have, but that might be newer.

So, Michael Jackson, Stroburg. This is what happens when we skipped that. We don't know who Stroberg is. No, we do. She was the one who was accusing Prince Andrew. Oh, she really, she really went through the mill. That sucks. All these things are her?

That sucks. I thought there's a bunch of, you know, victims. Schorberg recalled meeting late musician Michael Jackson and Epstein's house in Palm Beach. Oh, not even on the, uh-oh, but said no when asked if she had massaged him. Okay. I mean, I guess that should be in the article. Yeah. And maybe he just did the mortgage room.

I mean, I feel like Michael, Jackson had his own gimmick, you know, he built a, he's like, I mean, he built an amusement park in his backyard and he had the whole Jesus juice things allegedly or factually, I don't know. Right. But I mean, maybe he was like, no, I admire what you're doing, but I got my own thing over there in Neverland, so, but you know, you do you. An island, ah, seems like a lot. I don't want your, I don't want your busted 15-year-olds.

God. Wow. Oh, you mean because it's too old for Michael, John? Yeah. Yeah. That's sad. You know, too female. This gets dark. Yeah.

It gets very dark. Bill Richardson, I remember that guy. The former governor of New Mexico. Yeah, I remember Bill Richardson? Bill Richardson was also met. Oh, he died? I guess. Oh.

He was accused back in the day, yeah. He said in his deposition that Maxwell instructed her to give him Richard massage. Yeah. Lex Waxner. Well, yeah. Leslie Wexner was like the Wasn't he like the main guy behind it?

Um, right. He was one of the main guys, right? Well, he was like the connection to the missile, I thought. He's the guy who owned Victoria's Secret and was like, you know, wasn't he also in that movie we watched about the making of Tetris? Oh, was he? Was he? Was that Maxwell?

Oh, that was that was just Lane Maxwell's dad. Oh, yeah. That's right. Um, Alan Dirk. Oh. Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's lawyer, was also mentioned in the newly released records. I thought we were going to get, look, I don't want to make light of any of this, but I thought we were going to get some new things, like screech.

You know, or like, you know, the kid, like, you know, the kid from, like, the show with the boy meets world, the bad boyfriend, the bad, you know, there was Savage, there was Ben's Savage's brother. and who's his bad boy friends. You were actually like these documents should operate like a Hulu reboot of like a classic show. Well.

Their job isn't to introduce you isn't to remind you of old stars, celebs. I didn't say it was. I just felt like they said there's going to be all these new names. I feel like all these names were there. I thought it was going to be like

they were teasing it like it was a sequel. Like it was going to be, oh, you have no idea who's in the next expendables movie. Now we got John Claude Van Damme and. And, you know, the bad guy from, um, help me. The bad, the bad boy from, from Boy Meets World.

Well, I said that. The bad boy from Clarit. You know exactly who he is. We watched an episode of the show before the other day because you were nostalgic for it. Who might think, who might think is Sean? Yeah. All right. Leave me hanging.

Sorry, I thought you were looking for the actor's name. No, I don't care of the actor. You know, I called the guy Screech. Uh, whatever. What else we got here? Is there any, I mean, these names are all around for years. What is the new bombshell?

I mean, I think it's just more... When are you going to arrest these people, is my point. How about Marvin Minsky? He's going to make the fall. He's the only one. Marvin Minsky, computer scientist and former MIT professor. He's the only one. He's taking the fall for all of this.

He's going to get publicly executed. Oh, God. This is no... I mean, um, All I can say is I hope he actually did it because he's the one guy who's going to get convicted. Geez. Is there anything more of this?

Should we try to skip to another tab here? There's another one. Prince Andrew. That was just a continuing because... Epstein and Sex tapes of Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton together? Wait, were they... At sex tapes of Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton? Like, like, just, like, gay tapes?

That's the kind of thing I was saying. They're going to drop this. Who's the top, you think? I just think there's more like, just math stuff. It was kind of a 69 situation. Yeah. I don't, just, you know, one's the, like, who's, who's more impressed? Like, you know, one guy's royalty, but one guy's the actual leader of a country.

So it's kind of like, well, let's just, you know, I mean, Bill Clinton's not trying to insult the queen. How awesome would it be if a sex day during those two got released? Yeah. Oh, man, you could, honestly, great title for it. Yeah. The special relationship. I love that. Yeah.

We should somehow, can we copyright that? Yeah. I love that. Unsealed documents show defense team used Sarah Ransom's claims later retracted. Oh, to show she manifestly lacks credibility. Well, she retracted the claims. Um, at gunpoint? Yeah.

Yeah. Look, we threatened her. she said, she said, fine, I'll retract them. So I don't like we're even talking about this. Scroll down, like, let me have seen the defense team sought to undermine the reliability of one of the witnesses against them. So are these trials going on still? Yeah, yeah, I think they're a continuing, like, lawsuits.

That question should tell you why you don't really need me to comment on this. I don't know anything. I don't know if there's a trial. I don't know where it is. I don't know what body is, is it a Supreme Court of America? Is it, you know, a civil case in Nicaragua? I have no idea. Is it a Haig?

People really just imagine you every waking moment just pouring over documents. I mean, I don't know what you think my life is. I mean, if I, you, if I was into this stuff, I would be grifting like everyone else is. Yeah. Like, hey, you're going to tease you with a new info. I got screech on the line. He died, unfortunately. Those who were filmed were alleged to have included Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and Sir Richard Branson,

who you might know from Virgin Airlines, or Virgin Galactic. Do you think that's, you think that a little tongue and cheek? Was that the right word? No. You kept naming all those things Virgin. Could be. Yeah. If I was, if I was investigating billion years, what'd you name your company?

Oh, Sun Microsystem. All right, what about you? Oh, Virgin. All right, let's talk to you. What are you up to? What's your company called? Blood of Innocence. Frankly, too tight.

Too tight, too tight incorporated. Oh, God. Oh, God. We're terrible. No. Terrible people. Her clean. We're on the side of the angels.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. You've checked recently, right? Our clothes are dirty, but our hands are clean. What? I don't know. I don't know what that means.

Her claims were flagged by a firm representing Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, to demonstrate ransom manifestly lacks credibility. The court was not given any proof of the existence of any tapes, and the allegations were retracted by ransom soon after they were initially made. Yeah. Ransom gave a victim impact statement before the sentencing of the British socialite just lay Maxwell for sex trafficking. So she made a victim impact statement, which means like she must have been sort of credible as a victim, right? I don't know how anything works.

I don't know. I didn't actually, I'm like, I almost got a paralegal associate. So let's recalibrate what I know about the law. The court was provided with emails in which she claimed the three were filmed by the child sex offender. she also made serious accusations against former U.S. President Donald Trump I believe her Yeah

I believe her Yeah I feel like there's some shenanigans going on with Sarah Ransom What do you mean? Like she's lying? No no I feel like people are I don't know Maybe people are yeah like put in his curse to her He's saying I believe her Yeah I believe her too

Who's who Why was she benefiting from this? How the hell is she benefiting? Right When does it play here? Even if you were like, oh, it's a political thing. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew. It seems like a hodgepodge.

Yeah. Richard Branson, it doesn't seem like someone's like, you know, it's not exactly the most coherent portfolio. Right. A U.S. judge ordered hundreds of documents to be unsealed as part of Geofre's previous, sorry, I keep properly mispronouncing the name. previously settled civil claim against Maxwell which was filed in 2015

images were also released as part of the latest tranche of documents including a resurfaced photo of the former labor minister Peter Mandelson with Epstein on his private island little St. James I always forget how cute that island name is the first episode we come back with

we're doing on YouTube probably right we're reading this in time time okay it's a good point no but you you'll see but they didn't they didn't come up with our corporation names um yeah i just don't know what the this just feels like we've gotten the end of this yeah is there another thing for that you oh yeah so now it came out that the UK's the UK's biggest law uh you know police force or whatever said they're not investigating they seem to announce that like we're not investigating this guy is that usually

something that people do yeah yeah it just seems like a strange thing to just promise hey we're ignoring this yeah okay so you got you'll get your hopes up here we're on the take honestly it's weirdly honest to just be like look clearly clearly we're not going to look into this too much this is still a monarchy yeah you know he's the king's brother what you want this thing we're going to i got a pension Anyway, let's move on to a more, um, my God, Prince Andrew. What else is going on in the news? We got, uh,

John Majors, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a layer topic. Kang the Conqueror. I like Kang the Conqueror. I thought he was a lot of fun in that, in that Ant Man movie. Yeah, he was all like, you know, Paul Rudd, you know, you don't know who I'm, I'm a clone or whatever. There's a million Kangs. At the end, there's all these. Kangs.

It's like, oh, you're going to have Kangs for 10 years. There are all the different versions of them. It's going to be a lot of different wearing and costumes and outfits. So what's this new Oracle? Appears a wipe-way-teer shot an assault verdict. Oh, no.

Jonathan Majors appeared to wipe away a tear in his first interview since being found guilty of assaulting and harassing his ex-girlfriend, Grace Jabari. So he's out of Marvel, huh? Not to make light of the case. I don't know what I mean. I don't think he's going to.

became the conquer. I think I'm pretty sure they're replacing him. Yeah. He's out. He's out. That's a lot of Kings to have to replace. Yeah. I don't know if there's a guy.

I mean, less like I look, there is a guy who, um, he's not replacing him as Joe Coy probably. He did not do well that the people, the Golden Globes didn't like it. I don't know why.

But, uh, uh, yeah, I mean, who do you think should replace Jonathan Majors as King the Conqueror? Hmm.

That's a great question. It can't be Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, that would be the probably, if you want the worst villain to put in the MCU, just, I mean, why not just get Jeffrey Epstein? Like, they put them digitally in, like they do with other people. Right.

The age them, you know, they made that guy, Gran Moff talking in Star Wars Road 1, remember? Like 10 years ago. They can do that now. Let's get Jeffrey Epstein to be the bad guy. That's a, yeah, that's a great idea. Jesus, I don't know. Adam Driver?

Can Adam Driver do it? You want the guy from Star Wars? The whiny Darth Vader? Yeah. I guess. He could be a whiny the King and Conqueror. I mean, why not Rick Moranus?

He's not busy. Yeah, what's Rick Moranus doing? He was raising his kids, but they got to be like 40 by now. Right. And then he got like, during the pandemic, I think he was in New York and someone like, you know, beat him half to death.

On the Upper East Side or something. Up where I saw it. Yeah, yeah, it's sad. God, this guy's love. But he's probably healed. He's probably healed up. Yeah, his wife died. I think so he had to raise the kids.

Um, and then, you know, 20 years later, like a homeless guy beat him up. But I mean, you know. The only morally pure person in Hollywood is getting the shit kicked out. Yeah. So let's give him a break.

Let's get a little Rick Moranis. Give him the, uh, treatment. Honestly, that would blow people's mind. and Rick Moranus. I mean, most of the people

in their targeting wouldn't have any idea who he is. Maybe you're right. You would blow their minds Peter O'Toole. Was it? It would blow the minds

of people over 30. Sir Alec Guinness. Like, yeah, guess. These people watch Fast and Furies of 12 and Paul Walker died like halfway through them. But yeah, no, it'll be great. Could we get,

Did they get the rights to Paul Walker's image in perpetuity? Could they do AI Paul Walker and the... And with a spider body? Yeah. That would be nice. Maybe, yeah, maybe just have a guy with a spider leg. You know, it's just the guy. But he's always only powers.

I mean, honestly, like, everything has to be like, I'm going to destroy a space time continuum. Sometimes he's to be like, I'll, you know, I'll shoot my spider web as a... some woman yeah it's gonna come up her face don't be able to breathe

I feel like what's gonna end up happening is like they're gonna recast the role but they're gonna be like yeah we already kind of got a head start on the replication CGI so you know all the other gangs are still gonna have

to be Jonathan Majors that would be great just like audio dubbed What was Kang's deal? I thought he was like a cyborg from the future in the comics Or something Oh yeah, I don't know anything about Ken As far as I know

That representation of him Man is the only one No, yeah, he's a guy, he's a big bad in the combat I only read one thing he was in He seemed like a, but he seemed like almost like a like metal man He wasn't like a proud of African-American looking guy Right He just had like a metal face

as far as I could tell. Or maybe it was purple. Honestly, maybe this is the sign that Marvel should slow down a little bit. The person you were setting up to be the next Thanos or whatever. Right. Maybe don't sign people a 30-year contract. Yeah. Maybe don't, maybe don't, maybe, maybe don't plan 15 movies on anybody.

Right. You know, make a Spider-Man, a Spider-Man. Yeah. And then see where it goes. you know if Kang does well put him in another one you sign people to one movie at the time I mean you've ruined movies

it's not what they're gonna go and make some other movies like what are they gonna do make the godfather while you know if you don't sign them to a contract right you've ruined the landscape of cinema it's over like you're the only game in town you'll get these people to be in the movie again they think like if we don't sign

they're gonna negotiate then you replace them like you did what's the guy Don Chito replaced Oh, the, yeah. You ruined his career. Terrence Howard? They actually have to do this. Meanwhile, they just ruined Terrence Howard's career when they had to.

It's just insane. Look, here's what they really need to do to get back any kind of excited audience. To get their groove back. They need to make a new Miss Marr, what was it, Captain Marvel movie? movie with Bree Larson where just halfway through like 30 minutes into the movie yeah she gets brutally beaten to death wow and then the rest of the and then the rest of the movie is a dance party live stream okay I'm into it I don't know why you are I'm not into it but I do think it would be successful this is your version of like selling your soul to make it in Hollywood as an

executive yeah you'd be like look I'm not proud of this but I got an idea this is Lucy's idea Look, I'm a proud woman. I actually like Brie Larson. I thought Room was a great film. Oh, she was great in it. It was a good movie. Room was a good movie. The first, like, four fits of it.

They got, at the end of it got a little, you know, she's crying. Sure. Enough. You know, you escaped. Celebrate. But, uh, but, uh, but, you know, let's just make her a sacrificial lamb here. Let's just, uh, is it going to be like, uh, like kind of like, Petchy and his brother in casino?

It's getting beaten with pipes. Right, yeah. It's just going to be like two guys like two guys. They're going to bury her alive? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a little...

Yeah. Is the little girl Marvel also going to be beaten? And she'd be going, no, no. Well, that's a little too much. Well, it's like a casino. He's like, he's like, oh, yeah. And they watch them, they make them watch it. No, it has to be something like that.

It's one of the most... Honestly, that's what I'm most disturbing. Yeah. I saw that when I was a little bit too young to see it. Sure. At first. And there's something about the sandy. Just imagining that sand going into their wounds.

Something about getting beaten and bloodied and then, you know, here's some sand. That's really. That's, I mean, you don't need King to Conquer. You just need a, you know, a guy of the knife and a bandful of sand. He just cuts you and throws sand at you. That's a worse thing you think of. There's nothing worse than just dying slowly of internal bleeding while you're, while you just keep accidentally sucking sand into your mind.

I mean, you go to the beach, you take a shower. You still got sand on you. Yeah. I mean, I have a ton. I'm not saying, I know I wash myself. I mean, like, it's a sand sticks to things. Right. Imagine having a giant arterial wound.

Oh. Gaping, like, you know, just you're bleeding out. Your femoral arteries just get, you, and like, it's a bunch of sand in there. Yeah. You're terrible. Never going to get it out of there. Oh, God. The doctor's going to be, what are you, what are you getting mugged in the beach?

Oh, it's the worst. Oh, my God. yeah so um just call him the sandman I mean that's the whole thing there's a comic called the sandman but I think he's about dreams or some bullshit but the sandman should be that

I am the sandman oh what are you like you know you haunt people's dreams no I cut them open and I throw sand inside them oh brutal we should really I mean honestly

who's that guy who runs the MCU I forget his name but he's like you know beloved The bald guy Calvin Kennedy No No she uses Sony She's not beloved

Yeah But we should We should have his job We should We should have a lot of jobs There's so many jobs We should have I don't know why

If his podcast was bigger Would Hollywood notice That like Would we be the first people Recruited Not to like act though But just like They should be running our

Something Running our or shared universes. If we ran that monster universe, remember we with Tom Cruise, with the mummy, they tried to make a whole, like Marvel,

universal monster movie cinematic universe. Right. We could just made that because we just, everything had been sand. Sand and, just sand and pussy wounds.

Anyway. So, you know, good luck to Jonathan Majors. He was good in a lot of things. Yeah I like them with King This is the last one

This is I mean I guess this is all In various levels of crime episode Yeah We got this gypsy rose Thing you brought up Now this woman I remember seeing this girl

In a documentary years ago I don't I famously don't love true crime But this is A Gypsy Rose The documentary called What a Kill you I'll kill you, Mommy Dearest or something.

It was called Mommy Dead and Dearest. Right. Yeah. Which as a title seems a little overwrought. It's a bit much. Because Mommy Dearest was already an ironic title. Yeah. It was about a woman beating her kid.

Right. We'll call it Mommy Dead and Dearest. But she basically was a, it's one of those munch house and things where your mom feeds you glass and then tell the doctor you got like a stomach egg. Right. And it infuriates me. And the dumb doctors always believe.

They never, they never stopped to think. I would never, I would, I would accuse every mother who came in my office of poisoning their, I don't care what kind of cancer it was, I don't care, you know, leukemia, uh, non-hanskin's lymphoma. What, what you feed her? You know, I would be sued so many times by mothers. I mean, usually, what doctors should really do is they should just throw it, like, they should throw it in casually during the examination. They should be doing like, you know, they ask them about the kid's condition and the mom's like, oh, you know, they've had a, source row you know it's like she's she's

her temperature has been high and the doctor's like mm-hmm mm-hmm and uh and what did you poison her with how much glass you feed her a day and what do you put glass in how many champagne flutes broken champagne flutes you grind up with her Cheerios daily

at least one or two of these uh crazy crazy fat maniacs would go would just go uh yeah I put it in your soup oh shit oh god I have a good place The soup is blend of the soup But maybe maybe Maybe like a like a hard

Like a grape nut cereal Right It's kind of hard Something you chew on Right Everyone would notice If you put glass in their soup Of course

Is it a glass Do you put glass in my soup? Motherf- Why did you put glass in my soup? But yeah So she got that treatment From her mother And eventually she met a nice boy

On the internet Who helped him Her murder him or her right she met a nice boy on the internet who helped her murder her mother yeah um nicholas

godogen cool yeah whatever so she and they put her in jail which I thought it was weird but you know yeah and she got out recently

right and so she's now she's you know doing the doing the tour I guess as you would as you do and uh you watch some of this yeah I watched a little bit of it

let's let's take us through this Do you miss your mom, Didi? Yeah, I miss my mom. When you look back, do you think there are ways that this could have been handled differently? Absolutely, absolutely. I look at things in hindsight, and I realize that there were other options besides murder. Interesting. This is like a pretty brutal murder, right?

They just like knifed her up, right? I think it was, yeah, I think it was pretty harsh They got it like a fish Yeah Yeah Yeah, murder by stabbing Right, yeah She got a little stabby

Stabby, stabby Where's your broken glass There's no glass here I couldn't think of anything else to say I mean, it would be great If it was just like Do you ever say that there was maybe Another way to handle it?

Well, you know, she made me eat through a feeding tube I didn't need so I maybe Right, yeah Maybe don't poison me Right? Yeah, they, oh, that's right. She was, like, in on it, right?

Um, yeah, I mean, I think, I think at some point during her childhood, she thought she was actually sick, but... Right. They used to, like, they used to do little charities, right? Yeah. Like, oh, save Gypsy Rose, wherever her name was. Right. You know, a gypsy something, or Roe, is it a gypsy?

Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Isn't it gypsy Rose, like, a famous story? Isn't that the movie Gypsy? Yeah, there was, like, a gypsy row, yeah. And the whole thing was that she was, like, a fake, I don't know. Gypsy Rose, who was a fancy stripper or something, I think. I don't think that's what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of the movie where they, where they, where it's just like, you know,

the mom's making her be a star or something. Oh, um, yeah. It's called gypsy, right? Something like that. I don't know. So anyway, what, what now? So after that question, what happens? Right.

Is this you going to run for president? Right. I was sheltered that I couldn't, I couldn't see them. time. She's the face of one of the most shocking crime stories in memory. This is the house where Claudinia Blanchard was found stabbed to death. Gypsy Rose Blanchard, portrayed by her mother as a chronically ill girl, unable to walk with that signature baby voice. That seems to be real. That seems to be real. Yeah, the baby voice. Don't make fun of her. Yeah. With that signature, ugly face.

Come on. A perpetually ill girl with a signature annoying as fuck voice. And nobody could stand. A perpetually abused girl. Who wasn't much to look at? Like, geez. But it was all a lie. Her mother, Didi, was actually the one who was sick.

With the psychological disorder, Munchausen syndrome. No. No, you just, that's what I mean did. You're just a disgusting. What was Jeffrey Epstein psychological disorder? Right. Lunch housing by sex offending? No, he just did some weird shit.

Where a parent seeks attention through their child's made-up illnesses. I never need, I never, I mean, this whole thing, oh, but I wanted detention. That's not enough, enough. I don't care. Right. I would be a good judge. Like, look, people who really have that disorder aren't always, like, the best

at, like, monetizing it. Right. Yeah, it's like, she did it so that she could, like, get money from... Yeah, usually, like, they're probably usually, like, rubbing, like, seashells on the kid's face. Right. It's got a sunburn.

I don't know. Yeah. I get caught immediately. But, like, this one's, like, you know, no, if you manage, like, raise millions of dollars, you don't, you know, you don't get the out. Yeah. But to be fair, did she get stabbed to death.

So, I mean, I guess, what am I complaining about? Right. your mother controlled so much many people just can't understand why you didn't just get up and walk out of that wheelchair you weren't sick it's mental it's emotional we're weird thinking she asked that question to a lot of people such as her why don't she just get out of that wheelchair this woman has never met a person in a wheelchair who she didn't think was faking it She doesn't have to you Why don't she get out? She's embarrassed in the country.

She goes to the VA on a regular basis and goes, why don't you walk it off? I. Wait, what are they called again? IED. IED, more like me, me, me, me. There you go. Good job, Luce.

All these reasons combined together is what prevented me from just walking out of that situation. Give us a sense of... You're out of jail. Just admit it. I wanted to kill her. Yeah. Just say it. Wouldn't you?

She got to get caught. She had to get caught. She fucked around and she found out. Play stupid keys, win stupid prizes. I feared more than anything that if I ran away, that things would be worse for me at home. Gypsy becoming the mastermind in her mother slaying after a lifetime of abuse. I actually didn't even want her to be killed. I just wanted out of my situation.

And I thought that there was the only way out. So I think that there is this judgment on me that I killed my mom because I hated her, and that's not true. At age 23. I didn't know where the keys were. She pled guilty for the role she played in her mother's brutal murder. Guilty. Stabbed 17 times by Gypsy's then boyfriend. Are they still together?

Now, after nearly nine. They broke up? Oh, did she do that? She initiate that? The breakup? Yeah. I assume yeah her lawyers probably said like you need to break up with this I mean this guy helps you you can't be seen necking with this guy in the courtroom yeah I mean he's now he's just like you know

you got what you yeah this guy and he's just there and some jail yeah he's like he can't be like oh she she munch houses me you just like you found some girl on the internet some and killed her mom like and women wonder why chivalry is dead right seriously honestly like this is why you know you what match.com yes is that uh is there more to this or i'm sure there's more but you know i don't want to live in this world anymore good job gypsy there's always more right

good job gypsy rose uh blanchard maybe she can be the new kang That would be awesome. I mean, she's actually killed someone. And she should reference her mother's murder in the movie. Yeah. I killed my mother and I'll kill you too. I've seen every MCU movie.

This is not what are we going to have to make that documentary part of the MCU now? Like back like we like Rick recount it. Honestly, oh man. That's a good idea. This episode is just filled with like free ideas for Marvel. Yeah, we're just giving away, you know, Hollywood a lifeline. Yeah. Well, thanks so much for tuning in.

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