Kump - Ep. 170 Harvey Weinstein's Conviction Overturned | TikTok Ban | Ellen Kicked out of Show Business

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

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Writing the topics. Today's, today's, canceled citizen of the week, if you will. What's going on? We have Ellen. We've talked about Ellen. This has been a long time coming.

She was kicked out. out of show business. I thought she was worth a hundred million dollars. What's going on? She's claiming she's been kicked out. She's been betrayed that she's had a Judas kiss

planted on her lips. Those her words that someone gave her a Judas kiss? Hey, remember that the theme song from Yellen show? Hey, it's Ellen. Hey, it's Ellen. If you fire me, I'll say it's a Judas kiss.

Anyway. She's, uh, have you ever heard any of the accusations against her for, like her staff? That she's, um, a lesbian? That she's, she's been accused of, I thought she committed to that. Well, she's been accused of toxic workplace behavior. Oh, that. Okay. I thought they were just being homophobic. Yeah. What happened? Um, I guess she's a real witch behind the scenes. Yeah, look, I, didn't she, like, I'm going to ask you a few questions. Did she burn people?

I don't think she burned people. Did she call the FBI and tell them lies about her employees? I don't believe so, but she may have doxxed a woman who... Worked for her? Who sells abused dogs or something? If I was in Ellen's shoes, by the way, here's what I would do. A nasty employee, an employee who didn't want to do her job or his job was just giving me guff.

I said, I have a phone number. And then when I call that phone number, a man picks up do you know where that man works no where the FBI I can tell him whatever I please and I'll tell him things about you and it doesn't matter if they're true who's he going to believe you

who is not known to anyone or the richest comedian in Burbank so you better you better get my you better not you may give me another scone or I'll tell me burn cats

I'll get you another scone anyway you don't have to tell them that you know I burn cats Hey hey what's Let's not be petty All right I'm a PA It's my job to get you scones

I'm not trying to argue I want an argument All right I just want my scone I'm trying to be for that creative here I'm trying to create whimsical media for the for the fat women

of America for the fat, lonely women who sit here and watch. Oh, it's Ellen. She's going to docks you if you take care of dogs. It's Ellen. Do you think she's ever vomited while meeting a fan? Just vomited at the side of them? I mean, I think she has, like, you know, like armed guards who will, like, prevent you.

It's like that thing, Dune. I don't like the new Dune because the old Dune that David Lynch made, even though he wasn't proud of it, they were all these guards that had, like, these big headdresses on and they were like if you try to get towards the emperor they'd be like what yeah and then they'd be like that but only they'd have swords i only had got you know what they call those swords skimitars you know like uh indiana jones the circular swords circular sword i don't know what i might think of a skitth or something i don't know you know the skit is what the grim reaper has right there's no i mean it might be a

circular sword like it's an oval like a like a like a circle so they have like a like a killer donut i mean it's more of a curved sword it's not circular it has an arc to it so they have these cemitars yeah and then and they and they cut and they hurt you with them if you try to get near pretty ellen that's what i call her i call it pretty ellen the comedian the comedian do you think young ellen degenerous was hot at all uh yeah i did I think she was attractive. I mean, I don't know if I mean, you know, I wouldn't try to, uh, it would be a crime for me to like to ask her out, right?

In time machine? I'm saying it's like, no, it's not crime, but like from a straight man to ask out a lesbian woman, it's kind of a, they consider that a violation these days, right? I would be canceled for that, right? I don't think it's a crime to shoot. I would be brought to the Hague and said, why would you, why would you offer, She has no interest in what you have to offer. You're a man of the flesh.

She's like a wizard. I feel like, I feel like, you know, women, when they don't, like, straight men, they're like wizards. It's like, it's like, I am, like, it's like a person who doesn't have to eat. That's what we have to offer is our ability to, I mean, we're, we're going to other stuff. I do, I do all the cable in the apartment, drew me and you. I run the cables And you sometimes resent that

But yeah But you're not a lesbian woman You're a straight woman Yeah I feel like a lesbian woman I can do my own Do you think that's your only value to me Is that you can run

Is that you can organize cables Yeah And sex Yeah Sexual stuff I mean I don't think it's a crime To shoot your shot I think even just saying

Shoot your shot It's very aggressive It's very much like I would be I would be burned at the altar of YouTube. I mean, I would, like, should we, should we, should we do this? Should I try to sleep with that, with her? If you're so confident, that's okay.

Should I do this? Well, I mean, honestly, now she might, she might pick you up. Maybe she's heading back into the closet because she's saying in this article. Oh, oh, is she saying that? Well, she's saying in this article that basically, I mean, I think we should read the article before you threatened her to threaten her to get back in the closet.

Let's get some context into the mix before Lucy said something and accidentally it seems crazy. I'm not saying I want to send her there. Well, none of us do. Yeah. Now I have to say it.

Neither do I. Why are we in this position, Lucy? Let's read some of the article. But she seems to be saying all this has happening to her because... Let's see. Let's see. Ellen Generous is laying it all out. Is that way, like a photography spread?

Like, was this just metaphorically? I'd love to see it. I'd love to see it. I mean, just for the academic element of it. Yeah. I'm a looker. I like to look. If it's only if it's being offered.

I'm not a snoop. Two years after walking away from her eponymous daytime to, is that how you say eponymous? Yeah, eponymous. I feel like there should be something more there, like whatever. upon this daytime talk show I thought she was still I thought she still was on the air

I thought she I knew she was leaving but I didn't realize she'd even ended it yet that really ended with a whimper I guess did she do a last dance I wonder what it was like I mean she would do very lame dancing right that was her gimmick people would come out and they'd dance together and they'd bring fat women out to dance yeah and they'll dance together

and someone didn't didn't Obama do a little do something with her god he really had to get it really Infamous dance They really made him That's like They really made him Just

Just just to base himself Didn't they? He'd pretend like he was enjoying that Dancing with Ellen Which was mired in allegations Of a toxic workplace During his final years The comedian reflected on the controversy

And its impact on her It's all about her with Ellen, right? Very much, very selfish person From my year Very very just just I mean, does she give it a charity? How would I know? I assume, no, but I can't say that for sure.

Is she nice to children? I would assume, no. Well, she brought out that I remember her having that Japanese kid playing crazy train. Oh, right? And she was yelling at him, right? And she said, get off of stuff. I got kicked out of show business.

Generous quipped while eating a golden pretzel, literally a pretzel dipped and guise. gold. During her stand-up comedy set at the Coronet Theater. I mean, she's doing a comedy set. I guess the Coronet Theater in West Hollywood doesn't count as show business. Yeah. I beg to differ.

How long did you have that show? Like 20 years? Yeah. Make some room for someone. Gee. There's no mean people in show business. Is that a quib? Oh, like she's like.

She said that sarcastically. Like, I can't be mean. Yeah. the be kind girl wasn't kind the 66 year old continued I became this one-dimensional character who gave stuff away and danced up steps did she dance up steps like she was on like

did she do that? I don't remember ever dancing up steps isn't that like a Gene Kelly thing I think she just danced a little bit maybe she would dance towards the audience towards the fat women she entertained the human seals who clapped for her I became his one-dimensional character who gave step away and danced up steps.

Do you know how hard it is to dance up steps with a mean person dance up steps? This sounds insane. Yeah. This sounds like a person goes, like, could I have buried this child in the woods? Do you know how hard is to bury a child in the woods? Like, no, I don't. Do you? In 2020, 11 current and former elder generous employees detailed their experience on the talk show,

which they described as a toxic work environment. an explosive BuzzFeed news report. I mean, is that, is that why BuzzFeed's gone? Is she shut down BuzzFeed? This woman, like, runs half the country, and she's like, I got to get a show business. She has launch codes. This woman has launch codes.

Ellen could blow up at least 20. There's probably certain countries she can't, right? Like certain big countries, important ones. But she could blow up, like, you know, whether those, the micro-micronisia. she could She could learn She misses on Micronesia

She could I'm sure the Pentagon Would let her If she came to the Pentagon She danced for them She'd let her blow up something Uh What was the other country

Finland maybe They might let her A bunch of damage to Finland Yeah maybe Sweden Not Switzerland Because there's still banks there right But I'm just saying This is

But she was kicked out of show business She's I mean Has she witnessed beheadings I don't know Probably I would assume so based on her personality uh go go go yeah go on in 2020 11 current and former ellen degenerous

show employees detailed their experience i read this already oh okay right right some mention facing microaggressions favoritism by executive producers and claims of unexpected terminations well i mean this doesn't sound that bad where's the burnings right to ellen's credit why People are whining nowadays. No one wants to do their job, you know? I had a lot of crappy jobs, a lot of terrible jobs. I worked at McDonald's, which I loved. I was awful at.

I would make a mess. I remember I had a manager at McDonald's who told me, took me aside one day, and he said to me, Ray, come here. I want to show you why everything you clean looks like ass. And I was all right And he And he taught me how to take the rag

That I would clean the tables with And instead of being all bunched up And like you know Like a lot of toilet paper Just spread it out flat And wipe You know Circular motion

And I learned And I worked at a I guess CVS type place Like it was CVS And I was fired for amongst other things I was like a snowstorm one day And I was just kind of randomly Using the price gun

on the photo lab machine and they were showing me the video and I'm like yeah I think it's the price gun why are you doing now I don't know an answer it seemed appropriate at the time so that

I mean I had these jobs but it was also much more personal but when you go to a store now people are very much like I remember going to the bank and I and then and this is like not even now this is a while ago it's gotten worse since then this is before the pandemic going the bank I took out like an odd amount of money let's just say like my rent was like I think at the time it was like it was around a thousand right and it was like but I was like to pay for I was also paying like the exact amount for the extra cable box that they got right and so it was like a thousand thirty two and this guy the bank asked me what is this for oh that's a weird number what was this for and I gave him him the business. I said, who the hell of you to ask me what this is for? He said, he seemed confused and looked down. I'm like, how dare you? Nobody wants to do emotional labor for you anymore. Nobody wants you to, nobody wants to make you feel good about getting their service.

Right. Well, just don't ask me questions. It's my money. I do think that's a little invasive. That's where I was just crossing a line. If I would ask that, I would be told to, you know, I would get the riot act. Yeah. But these people don't have managers anymore. Hey, managers, you're the problem. Why am I looking at not the camera? Managers, you're the problem.

I stared at a wall. I'd be terrible in the show business. Go on. In addition to an internal memo vowing to make improvements, the comedian apologized in the season 18 premiere opening monologue, adding, I take this very seriously. And I wanted to say, I'm sorry to the people who were affected. I went to Charlie's Chuggle Hunt.

Oh, I didn't go to business school, she continued. I went, oh, oh, hold on, I skipped over stuff. As for her, it appears returning to her comedy roots is also a way to unpack the tumult from the show. After all, she also admitted she didn't know how to be a boss. This is like a Pentagon general, being like, I'm sorry, I was hangary after he, like, bombs a refugee camp, by mistake. on purpose. I didn't go to business school, she continued.

I went to Charlie's Chuck lot where I be headed a goat. That's not something. The show was called Ellen, and everybody was wearing a t-shirts that said, Ellen, and they were buildings on the Warner Brothers lot that said Ellen,

but I didn't know that meant I should be in charge. Are you kidding me? Seriously, seriously, what is this bitch talking about? What the hell is this? I can't even not. What is she talking about? You realize how,

how cut through it you have to be to get your own talk show you can just get them i just ended up here what you already had a sitcom that ran for like at least a few seasons right and then you get a talk show did she get yours of donald's all talk show is that what happened it doesn't matter the point is she got a talk show you don't just i don't know if you ever anyone who's tried to be famous ever You don't just get things You have to stab people in the back to get them No, that's like a special kind of like sociopathy That only late night show hosts have

It's like the ability to just stab thousands of people In the back And then go on the show and go I just ended up here somehow Why did I do? I just hit the button And made the people set on fire I don't know

I'm a little baby I'm just a guy I just bite people I just have a drinking problem And I bite people real bad I don't know What is this shit? What is this?

I'm not, you kids I don't like about Johnny Carson He didn't like pretend Not to be a monster You knew he was doing stuff You don't know what To women, to men, I don't know The worst stuff in the world

Maybe not But he probably liked a few highballs I like to play tennis with, you know, with rocks. He drove tennis balls for you. I don't want to speculate on what Johnny Carson did to people to hurt them. But I bet he did. He didn't he, didn't he, like, Joan Rivers didn't get his blessing to do a talk show? He never talked to her again.

His good friend Joan Rivers? Because he betrayed, she betrayed him. Because she didn't get his, you're not in the mafia, Johnny Carson. You were, you were jack off in Balibu. You're at the dawn. You're the dawn of Malibu. Enough. Alan.

She's like the modern day Johnny Carson. Although, you know, Johnny Carson was allowed to stay. Oh, I don't know. Hey, I'm going to put a turban on. Imagine, what if we blew up Iran? Go on. She also drew parallels to the 1998 cancellation of her sitcom Ellen,

which came as a result of her coming out as gay. Did it really? sound like a direct thing. They came out as gay and they were like, you're done? I think, look, I think she might have came out as gay partly because the show was a decline. Yeah. And like, it wasn't a very good show.

It was James Spader, not James Spader, but Jeremy Piven, who is a tremendous talent. And, but he had to have his breakout success in the entourage, right? Right. So, you know, she was, in my opinion, underutilizing him because she could probably care less about Jeremy Piven. Right. Poor Jeremy Piven.

Poor, poor Jeremy Piven. Seriously, he's great. You were watching Anzoraj? No. He's so good. So good. I didn't mean that. What happened to him, I don't know why he's not in Hollywood anymore, but let him back.

Even if he did do something, what I care? I mean, I hope he's not that bad. But I think the guy seems like a nice guy. Don't know anything. I don't judge people. I'm a Christian man I may not be the most I may not have the biggest Eucharist

right and I may not have the and I may not you know I may not be nailed to the largest cross Is that what you think Eucharists are They're like a rank

That people get You get a small one And you're not important Then you have a big one Hanging around your neck Well sure The priest holds up a big one But then you get a small one

The guy with the biggest Eucharist Becomes Pope Well I've been to you've ever been to mass I mean I know your family didn't take you the Mass a lot, but, you know, when you go, yeah, the priest holds up this big old Eucharist, right? Yeah. But then what do you get, a little one?

Yeah. So maybe you're, maybe, maybe, maybe don't be so glib. And that, and that wounded your ego when you were a trial. Yeah, why don't I have that big Eucharist? Yeah, but why didn't wound? I'm like, I guess I'm not, I'm guessing not holy enough. I'm pretty sure, look, we may have been, what are you, what did your judgmental family call it? A&P Catholic.

For ashes and palms. We may have been A&P Catholics, but I'm pretty. sure that wasn't the priest's personal Eucharist. It was like supposed to represent the community's Eucharist. He ate it. I don't think he eats the whole thing. I think the people up there with him eat part of it. Oh, who is entourage?

Jeremy Piven? What are you talking about? Doesn't the guy who hands out the wine get part of that big Eucharist? The Eucharistic minister? Yeah. Perhaps. You know who else got something? Me? Because I was an older boy. Sorry to the bottom night and then it was there.

So, you know, I don't complain. Like, I work my way up. I keep my head down. I work my way up. Head down, way up. All right. So Jeremy Pivot, I'm sure. And so is Alan.

But Alan might have taken a few shortcuts, stabby, stabby in the backpack. All right? Nothing to be ashamed of, but let's not pretend we're little pixies. Oh! Oh! Why are you gleating from the back? What happened? You got a booboo?

Did I stab you with a knife? Jeremy Piven I'm just dancing up steps Right I'm just dancing These fat seals These clapping fat seals who love me

For those of you who are keeping score This is the second time I've been kicked out of show business DeGeneres noted This is the most sociopathic person Who's ever existed What the hell is she talking about Kicked out of showbid

She became a hundred millionaire Is she worth half a billion? I don't know about. What is she talking about? My mother doesn't know she's my mother. Wait, did I lose something here? Well, oh, okay. Eventually, they're going to kick me out of for a third time

because I'm mean, old, and gay. I mean, old, and gay. I mean, she is gay. She's admitting that she will be old. She's old now, I guess. I mean, she's admitting she's mean. Right, she is mean. She's not denying the fact.

This is actually a great spin. Like, look, Ellen, no one's going to believe that you're not the worst person in the world. You're just, you have the, you look like Nasfrocktu with a wig, right? She looked like, I mean, I don't mean physically, completely. I mean, some of it's also the personality, but yeah, physically too. I mean, honestly, picture her bold. Look at her, look at that picture. She looks like, she does look like a vampire.

Like someone, like someone put a, like a fucking nice wig in a vampire. I guess Am I good now? Am I passing for the human? She drinks the blood of children but not in the way we talk about lately. Right? Just the old-fashioned vampire way.

Right. She has every Karen in the world's sire to her. Yeah. Fat Cairns. Fat seals of women. It's like a movie the seventh seal. But it's actually just a fat woman. Seven fat women.

Any of the more than that, however, the comedian expressed being in a difficult place, sharing insight while opening up about her mom Betty DeGeneres' battle with dementia and her own struggle in this new chapter of your life. I don't pretend to care about your mother at 11th hour. Yeah, don't law. All our moms have dementia if we're lucky. What do you think? You think it's fun when they don't have dementia?

They remember who you are? Go on My mother doesn't know She's my mother That's been nice for her I was with her for a second When she was just like Yeah I mean

This is like don't back pedal My mother She thinks I'm just some weird monster Who stabs her with fork When I don't eat my jello She explained I'm trying to figure out who I am Without my show

Those are weird things to tie together My mother has dementia and I don't have, all I have is $300 million. What do I do? Do I travel? Who will I be mean to when I travel? My mother's, my mother can't remember how to chew her food. So I burn her, but this doesn't feel the same as having your own show.

Sometimes I think about lighting her on fire, but then, you know, that wouldn't get my show back. It would just make me feel good. that's it that's how it ends my brother doesn't know she's my mother she explained and i don't care anymore i'm talking about my show again that's literally it's like hey my mother she doesn't like even her dementia it's about her right her mother's dementia is all about ellen you go but it's like it's like literally like my mom's dementia she doesn't even know she's my mother not like she doesn't know who she is right she doesn't know who i am and i don't know who i am This is someone who's never

Sociopaths are so lucky when they're gay Because they can just blame being gay But they're sociopaths Yeah It's really like it's That wasn't always the case But in this day and age Now it's a boon

For sociopaths Yeah It really is a plus Because you could just be a monster And go I guess it's because I'm gay right I'm just

a gay and that's why he won't let me burn them whew I wish I could dance if I could dance if they give me her show you can dance

I know I can dance I can dance real well someone get me someone get a hold of whoever you know what monster opened the sarcophagus

and like let out of spirit and gave her a show Get that, get a whole that spirit they loosened 20 years ago. And maybe you can give me a show. Yeah. Do I have to go on a safari? Is that how it works?

Do I have to go like Machu Picchu or something? And like, and like, and like, and grab an idol or something or something about a genie? I mean, some gin, right? Do I have to find a gin? How do I get the monster to give me the show? The monsters who gave her a show. You know? I'll do the rituals

I'll cut my hand and I'll vow to entertain the fat seals of women you know that's really who runs this country right

clapping seals of women or men I mean were there ever men in the audience I don't think so they allowed to be I don't think I ever saw a single man in the audience

it's a shame because I feel like some men liked it I've always been attracted to lesbian women is that am I being too vulnerable Um When have you been attracted to lesbian women

Not exclusively But I mean Ellen You were at oh you Oh you were attracted to you Yeah I might admit it I thought it was cute Yeah I mean

Yeah when she was young I was all kinds of women But I mean I always found The short hair thing kind of cute Hmm Right I never knew that Well because it's not

I don't need it It's not like Oh if only you were a lesbian woman I would have proposed earlier You know, it's just like, I have nothing against it though I would have gone to see Ellen But she wouldn't let men on the show Yeah

She wouldn't let them watch What's happening Did you ever watch the show? I saw a couple of awkward interviews Oh, with a Korean kid With a couple of different people I think she made some girl cry once or something Because she was going through all our relationship failures

I don't know Ellen was telling a child about her relationship failures She was grilling some Some kid And then what was her woman Who died she was with right She's like telling some five-year-old girl

Like some Chinese girl Who's playing the piano She's trying to tell her about What's her name? Oh, Anne Heish? Yeah she's like And then Anne Hitch didn't You know

I brought her to Malibu And she vomited everywhere And the Chinese girl Like screwed up playing you know, Chopin, and she's like, you missed a note! Anyway, little Chinese girls are great at Chopin. Oh, yeah. Is that racist to say?

I'm sorry. But they are. They're very talented. I love watching those videos. Oh, what were we watching? We were watching that movie, that awful movie, Little Man Tate. Right. Where he's, and he's playing a piano, he's playing Chopin or something.

He's supposed to be really good, but it's like he doesn't, he doesn't rise to the level of a mediocre trying to eat this kid. Oh, no, there's so much better. But then some older Chinese women will still be like, no, no, you screwed up. I'm like, this is crazy. Anyway, just put that in place of Ellen.

Yeah. So it's an old age. Teach excellence in this country. Will you teach someone to be excellent? Stop dancing up a steps. I just show some kid who's just trying to be excellent and just being told. they're wrong and then maybe i'll be able to get a frapichito in this country do your jobs

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I ask me if I'm okay. I'm not. Moving on. So speaking of the worst people in the world, Harvey Weinstein. That means Harvey? I mean, no, I think he's pretty bad. Do we have this on here?

Harvey Weinstein was... I think the article has a link to one article about it. You know, whatever. Harvey Weinstein was overturned. His conviction. He was accused of all sorts of stuff that the algorithm loves. All sorts of activities. This is great for the algorithm.

Just scroll past that. Scroll past that word. That word that gets us dinged. Harvey Weinstein's 2020, you know what conviction, was overturned Thursday in New York, making way for a new trial. It's conviction. Just say conviction. I hate that cutesy stuff.

You know. You know. You know. You know. Just leave that words. Harvey Weinstein's Tea Party conviction. Harvey Weinstein's sugar conviction. Yeah, these euphemisms, I don't like it.

Harvey Weinstein's naughty boy conviction. I like that. We can start that. We should start a whole thing. Harvey Weinstein and then the naughty boys. We conclude at the trial. So what happened here? The state court of appeals founded the judge in a landmark

Me Too trial prejudiced Weinstein, the former film rule with improper rulings including the decision to let women testify about allegations that weren't part of the case. Okay.

We conclude that the trial court erroneously admitted testimony of uncharged alleged sexual acts against persons other than the complainants of the underlying crimes because that testimony served no material non-propensity purpose.

With just Joy Lauren Adams being like, Chase and Amy was a terrible film. Why do you allow it to be made? It's just, there was a three-hour testimony by Kevin Smith. Yeah. I was talking about Batman the whole time. Shut up.

Where, can you not wear shorts to court, you idiot? And the hockey jersey? Look awful. Get fat again, will you? Somehow it's even worse when you're not fat. Yeah. Yeah, so. The court compounded that error when it ruled that defendant who had no criminal history

could be cross-examined about those allegations as well as new as allegations of misconduct that portrayed the defendant in the highly prejudicial light. Did they object? Yeah, like, did this ever come up? Did the lawyer actually, I mean, I guess they must have objected. You can't just not object and then the court's like overturns it. I know that they're picky about that. But you actually have to object.

You can't just be quiet the whole time. And otherwise that would be my plan I would just be like I'd be like Did you did you set that Did you set the walrus on fire? And I'd be like And then later on they'd be like you know

Appeal it Just appeal everything You can't you have to object Yeah What No I think he's staying in jail Because no he's been charged Convict of other crimes

Right I'm pretty sure he's like everyone No one's ever said he's innocent Right Except him I don't think even his lawyer said I think he barely said he's in the same thing Yeah I think he said why can't I do this

I made Goodwill hunting And like we didn't direct it No but who else would have made this weird movie And like fair point I like goodwill hunting but you know It's like it's not exactly There's issues with it

You know A different producer might have You know Cleaned up the edges of girl hunting I wish that you could It makes math look like it's like, you know, just like some comedy routine. It's just like math is jazz. Yeah.

I wish you could do what I could do. A million people can do what you do. Maybe not as fast. Like math is the kind of thing more like, except for like, you know, Newton maybe. You figure one thing out. You figure one obscure thing out. And then it's like, oh, wow. You go around.

No one's asking you to figure puzzles out all day. Doesn't make sense. Right. The movie makes no sense. Only a man who's preoccupied. with masseuses would make that, would have that film made. You should have read,

you should have been given notes on this film. And he doesn't get a math guy involved to help with the script. Yeah, it's like somebody, you know, at least, at the very least he should just be a math guy. We can't have him doing poetry and,

and history too. I know everything about the Civil War. Like, like, like, it's like, it's like, I don't,

I don't, you can't be the bad boy who doesn't work hard in school, but then like I read 12 books a day. that's not when they're not giving brain damage to like you know other kids in boston you know after we have our snacks we have snacks now and you leave the snacks on the counter to go beat up some cop but then you reading chaucer doesn't add up right and if this guy that's the best proof you have because if you weren't you know chasing a masseuse around the Hollywood the Beverly Hills Hotel or, you know,

then you maybe would have caught that note. Or are they New York based? The Carlisle Hotel. Be a chasing... I just picture like a Benny Hill montage. And the Google hunting script is just sitting there in a foreground, not being read with no notes given. This is not how math works.

What's going on? Judge Jenny Rivera called the error is egregious. said the remedy is a new trial. Weinstein's accusers could again be called to testify if prosecutors decide to pursue another trial. Judge Madeline Singus, in a dissenting opinion, accused the majority of whitewashing the facts to conform to what he said, she said, narrative,

and failing to recognize that the jury was allowed to consider Weinstein's past assault. I don't know if you are if you're not convicted, though. I don't know how the law works. But I think if the justice system is lazy enough, that this guy's never held account, then like, yeah, you might not be able to bring up

random accusations. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I can't. I'm not a lawyer. This is my job. Yelling about nothing. That's my job.

Someone get me a Frappuccino, please. Before he set. Don't put yourself down. You're a great legal mind. Thank you. Our truth isn't overturned. Why, the accuser says, all right, enough.

No one needs to hear that. that we're sorry for your loss or whatever. Just say the truth. Yeah. It makes it sound weird and suspicious. Yeah. Just say the truth. Right.

Our lot. Have a little confidence. This guy raped a million people. Our version of the facts is not overturned. Yeah. Our version, our story. Whatever. Louis, Louise Go.

He's working commercial production and the wine. They don't need the comment, by the way. And they might want to, and I guess you're allowed to. But, like, this shouldn't be about that. It shouldn't be about who had acid thrown on them, who was chased around the Hollywood Hilton,

you know, with a jar of acid. Or not. I don't know the facts. I didn't follow this case closely. Was he, he didn't have a jar of acid? I don't believe he had a jar of acid. I feel like everyone who does a crime should always have a,

jar of acid. Seems like a very good thing to have. I'm not trying to give advice to criminals. I'm just saying, like, I was assuming if I was a criminal, if I was trying to rob a bank, I just have a jar of acid. And you know what I would do? Just toss it over my shoulder at the end. Right. No weapon. Where's the weapon? You see your weapon anywhere? I mean, I've felt like the acid, the ass... Wouldn't the jar end up somewhere? Wouldn't the acid destroy the jar? How would you hold it then? I feel like the kind of thing where there's a jar. I don't know.

How do they want to throw ass to anyone then? Don't they do that in Russia? They throw asses on people? I think they have, don't they have like, yeah, that's a good, what is the container? I think they make it up. It's all this big. Everything's a lie.

I mean, there's a glitch in the Matrix. Or does a device. Maybe they use a lead carafe. We got to look that up. But we shouldn't say, we shouldn't give people instruction. It feels like giving people instructions. Yeah, we shouldn't be doing that. That's not good for the algorithm.

Like and subscribe, please. Is there anything else? Texting with other survivors. We're all saying our hands were shaking so much. She said Thursday. They have a text group for the other survivors? I would advise against that. I would advise to not.

There's a group chat for everything now. I am not on a single group chat. Now, I don't, I don't, I mean, victims of crime should do whatever they want, I guess. Do other crimes? Not universally, what I'm saying, yeah. Do you think they should get a pass? They should do crimes? They should do some symmetrical crimes.

What do you think these women should be allowed to do? Well, remember we were covering that story on the makeup brigade or the California girls, the California girls makeup stealer parade? Not even a little bit. When was this? There was a woman who was a ringleader. How long ago? Oh.

And they were stealing stuff from Sephora. Right. Okay. I think they should be able to do a little bit of that, maybe. Okay. So you can steal from Sephora, but you have to. I mean, did every victim of abuse or just abused by a famous man? Well, obviously.

We need to make a ranking system for this. Look, like a lot of things, if there's a famous person involved, you're more likely to get a little special treatment. I feel like your Eucharist rank should factor into this. That's your Eucharist. You know, the bigger Eucharist are more crimes you can commit. Which makes sense.

I mean, the whole year you are, I think, look, people complain about this social credit system in China. But I feel like this, you know, you look, they always talk about, like, they always focus on, like, the negative, like,

what do you get taken away for not, for being bad? But how, you know, why not get something for being good? Mm. Look at it that way. Yeah. Like, if I, you know,

if I, uh, pick up a little bit of garbage, do I get a free fish for a sandwich? sandwich? That'd be nice. Right? Yeah, that would be nice. Um, if I, um, don't throw ass to someone, what will I get? Well, that's, that's opening a can of worms. If it's, if it's everything you don't do. I think, I think there should be, look, we're getting to AI, right? AI is a complicated idea. See, how, here's, here's not where I mean it. If you were to ask a social, a civil servant, well, look, he, because this is my idea that you were basically,

you would have recognized capabilities, registered with the government. And then if you didn't use them improperly, you would be rewarded for not using them properly. So, like, I can demonstrate to the government that I know how to carry acid around. So every day I don't throw it to someone, I get a prize. But it would be too hard to track what everyone knows is capable of. But with AI, they can do that. I can log in to Siri and say, hey, I learned about acid today. And it keeps tracking what I know.

And it follows me around. And I have this little jar. I don't know what it was made of yet. But in this version of reality, I would know. I'd have to write the video. And it would just keep track of it. And then I would get fish fillets all day. Right?

Every day, we'd be munching on fish fillet sandwiches. Yeah. Look, I could see how that would be nice for you. And be good for everyone because people would learn skills. And it's a way to make the economy run better. So the people would learn skills to do violence that they don't intend it on doing. Right. And then every day they don't do it.

But first you have to prove that you are capable of it. Look, people are going to, look, the people who are most likely to stab you and hurt you are going to learn them anyway. Right? So why not build that into the system and incentivize? You can, like, people steal, a lot of people who do the worst things get the least bit, you know? Like, the people. who do the worst violent crimes are not making that much money off it a lot of the time. Yeah.

And so maybe if we just appease them, which fish fillet sandwiches, you know, it can be nice for them. They'll feel like they have a stake in society. That's all people want is a stake in society to not feel like they're being kicked out of show business, to not have their show taken away from them, to have a few fat seals of women clap for them. Yeah. That's what I'm proposing.

It could work. predictive social fish relays. This is the future I envision. I'm not saying we copy from China. Because what is China done? They have TikTok. The government decided that TikTok is a spy. I'm not saying it's not.

I'm just asking. They are going to ban it. They're banning TikTok. Let's bring this up. Do we have us here? Bring it up. They've banned TikTok, which I think is fine.

Because I don't know what China's up to. But I don't. think we should throw the baby out with the bath water right so we can ban tic-tok but i think we keep the social credit scores but we do them in a way where you get nice prizes what's wrong with that can the u.s actually ban tic-tok well that aged badly it did didn't it this is three days ago well this is not when he signed it this from vox Biden has signed a bill to build a ban tic-tok but it's not over yet let's see this I mean did they said this about torture, didn't they?

Right. Well, we can't torture people. You know what they said? Shut up. But Cheney, when we were talking about this on the patron the other day? Cheney basically, they was like, we're going to torture people.

You know, well, I didn't seem like you're allowed to. The Constitution says you can't, you know, we have a judge who ruled and said you could. Well, can we see that finding? No. This is a safe. It's classified. But we're not going to bet TikTok.

I think they'll figure that out. But what's the argument here? President Joe Biden assigned to build a band TikTok starting a nine-month countdown until the social media apps Chinese parent company bite dance Every time we do say bite dance

Bite dance Give it a more Bought dance Fish Relay Will be forced to sell it or have it be removed from U.S. app stores The proposed band has generated

Furor on Capitol Hill and online That's generated the furor. Oh, no, we brought back to furor. That's what was confusing me. I was like, I can't just be pronounced furor, but I guess it is. And online, since it first passed the house as a standalone bill last month,

TikTok has not actively pursued any buyers and is not vowing to challenge the ban in court. You said what you want to try to pronounce that? Is that what happened? Despite former Treasury Secretary Steve Munchin, among others, have an expressed interest. I believe it's the Munchin. You didn't know how to pronounce that. to say the um manuchin manuchin is it i just thought if it's in parentheses this must not be very good well i mean i think it's i think it's i think steve mnuchin wants to buy ticot i think it's kind of

interesting that is interesting he's a weird nerd looking guy why do you think he wants ticot do you think i mean do you think he wants he who control i mean if china's using it why aren't we just using it why can we make our own ticot well i think it's like it would be hard at this point for a knockoff TikTok to compare with their TikTok. What if we just put a tariff on TikTok? What if the U.S. government just gave money to people to make TikToks? You would catch on. Like you pay less.

You get a tax subsidy if you make money on TIPTO, on U.S. TikTok. You know? How come the government can't work for it? Give me a fish filet. Do you realize how good fish filet sandwiches are? They're not just for lent, you know? They're all year round. They're delicious.

They have the tartar sauce. They're fried. They're greasy. Like going on a bun. Perfect. There's already been a revolt from users that were first amendment concerns. Well, good luck with that.

Good luck with that. Do you remember the Patriot Act? Julian Assange is like in a two-by-two room right now. Like, I'm just standing up straight for, you know, three weeks of that time. First Amendment. Didn't they, like, put that woman in jail because she wouldn't around Scooter Libby? This is all before, you know, no one on TikTok would know what I'm talking about right now.

You're guarantee you that, 15-year-olds. Scooter Libby. Do you remember, what was the last time that you were, like, in a sincere way, like, oh, my, there's First Amendment concerns here? Like, 1994? Maybe, like, five? Like, you know, like, the 90s at least. I mean, certain things happened in the beginning of the 2000s. I don't mean ever, the band ever clear.

They really put that into question. Let's just say I didn't come of age in an error where the First Amendment was very valued. Last month, the social media app told its users to call their members of Congress and protests of the new bipartisan bill. Throw fish really, so dance at them. Dance at them. They do that thing where it's like, they do that thing where it's like, it's like, oh, I'm, I'm in a,

I'm in like a outfit and I'm in the bikini. Mm-hmm. But it's like, what would it be? It would be like, I'm in the bikini, but now I'm like, it's just a little screen mask on or something. Something scary. Arguing that the band would infringe

on their constitutional right to free expression and harm business and creators across the country. The only way you can pull the First Amendment in the office, is if you want to, like, you know, create theocracy. Then they're all about the First Amendment. Yeah. If you want to, like, you know, make a turn Tennessee into like some kind of, you know,

like Mormon fundamentalist, you know, encampment, then you're cool. You can't stop him. It's religion. It's religion. But the other, otherwise the First Amendment is, like, is that worth the parchment? It's, uh,

that officially bun has made them. Lawmakers and both parties Didn't take kindly to the impromptu lobbying frenzy Some characterizes as confirmation That the poor should be Put into camps Of their fears of the Chinese-owned app Which is already

Wait, wait, hold on Some categorizes confirmation of their fears Of the Chinese-owned app Which has already banned on government devices Is brainwashing America I don't think I don't know what the purpose of brainwashing America Is through TikTok

I might say it's not just because I don't understand the purpose of me, but I don't know why you're doing it, exactly. But I assume it's to dumb them down, right? Right. I don't think the best proof of that is vivid protests. Yeah. Right?

It's also like, I don't think they're, like, ultimately, whatever it is, I don't think their end goal is to get people to, like, defend TikTok. Or the Constitution. Right. It's also just the amazing, it's also just, the perfect response to have If that's true, China might be on our side

against our oligarchy government. We want to ban your app. We don't want you to ban it. Well, you're brainwashed clearly. Clearly this guy's out of control. Is China trying to protect the U.S. Constitution? This is crazy. I wouldn't

have thought so. I'm not like team China, but maybe. The White House has backed the bill from the beginning, reportedly providing technical support to legislators when they were drafting it. Even as Biden's re-election campaign has started using TikTok for voter outreach, as he should, because it's fun. Don't you want to see Joe Biden drool on loop to like to um-bop?

Just sing him-bub. Um-bop, it's coming on. Um-bop. He's just drooling. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Like that. what do you think theater of the mind this is because this is uh is this because the biden boys i forget what their names were but the biden boys that were under and there was uh bow right no no not those boys oh the young men that that were like oh harry's this isn't or whatever yeah is that because they didn't work

yeah weren't you trying to like wasn't you trying to shove the biden boys down our throat hey we care about the environment something tells me if the Biden boys has been a hit you know this would not be happening hey bro we care about the environment we're 19 shut up people don't know what we're talking about

the people who watch us understand that I don't think it's a big overlap in the audience it's not clear whether the ban will survive legal scrutiny a federal court recently overturned a Montana law that sought to ban TikTok the legislators have argued that it is a narrow scope

and would not amount to a total ban on TikTok that would violate the First Amendment, some legal experts believe otherwise. In my view, this loaded gun is a ban in all but name. I just hold me a gun. Yeah. He puts it in his mouth. It's an arboid. The bar for such a justification is necessarily very high in one of the protected

America's First Amendment rights, blah, blah, blah. Laura Meggis argued the bill under consideration isn't actually a total ban. Rather, it went an act of a new authority. scroll down, please, to narrowly define situations when they are controlled by a foreign adversary. I mean, we declared war on China? How does this work? Like, when do we, we have, like, diplomatic relations with China.

Now, I'm not being naive here. I'm just asking how, like, at what point are you allowed, like, could we just be like, well, France owns this app? So go to hell. Right. I mean, are we allowed to? Like, when did we decide that China is, officially our adversary.

I get it, but we're not even in a Cold War with China per se, right? It's not like Russia. Yeah. Even Russia now. Like we've never we have our grievances, right? Like we rat them out to their

human rights abuses sometimes. And I don't know why they don't just go, well, you do. What do you do? But whatever. Apparently there have been some, like, I was listening to some show recently where they were going through like all of the different telecommunications, like international kind of bands that they've done in the past.

I guess there was like one, like way, way back in the day where they made it illegal for like foreign entities to advertise on the radio or is something like, so I guess it's been kind of done before. Okay. But I just didn't know as long as, I mean, look, I'm not even saying, I'm not even making the case that as long as you treat them the same as other countries. I don't care. I'm just asking if you're, they seem to be talking as it was China.

And it's like, are we, I'm just. curious when like when does that happen is there someone like this we all get together and say to an adversary we trade with them all the time i know that they were contentious right they're stabbing up all the minds i'm very i like to care about things that don't affect me this is a prime example like i should be saying like and subscribe join our patreon but i'm like how did we define an adversary i'm the only guy asking this they do vacillate a lot They expect us to kind of switch back and forth Randomly

Yeah Can we get one after the show? Yeah, you can get one Oh, you do good for it I mean, I've never liked the idea of a fish fillet But why I just, it's just not my, you know Because you don't love America?

It's just not my speed I like a cheeseburger Which is more American It's so jingoistic It's so jingoistic You realize that fishing for a huge swat of the country is a major industry, all right? Fishing, you know, who's a fisherman?

Who? Jesus. We hung out with a lot of fishermen. Was he a fisherman or did he just multiply the fish? Well, he was hanging out with fishermen all the time. All his friends were fishermen. He said, I'm a fisher of men, didn't he? Oh, yeah, that's true.

Yeah, so, I mean. Seems different than a fisherman, though. He was also the same. In some ways, the same exact thing. I mean, just have tried to insert him. I'm sure he knew how to look cool with the fishermen. I'm sure he knew how to fish. Oh, you guys are fishermen?

Well, I'm a bit of a fisher of men. That sounds like he was trying to pick up, pick up. Are you a fisherman? Well, I am a fisher of men. He's like, well, bro, we have families. Oh, whatever. I'll hang out there. You guys seem cool, though.

What? What? What are you going to be looking at? mad by that? I think some would, but, you know, they're just telling on themselves. You're telling on yourself. Because Jesus is just busy fishing men and making fish fillets.

It doesn't matter. Is that why you don't want me to eat fish relays? Because we're married and you're jealous of me fishing men. You think about their fishing men? It's raining men. Hallelujah. I think it's fine. Look, I'm not going to be disgusted if you eat a fish fillet next to me.

I thought you were going to say something else. Algorithm! What do we take away from this whole, you know? We got Ellen, we got Weinstein, we got, we got fish fillets, and we got TikTok. What's the unifying? I think we should start summarizing our shows now. So what, what's, what's the, what's the unifying factor? I think they should give Ellen DeGeneres a TikTok show

And then put her on trial And then it will kind of die a natural death That's interesting Does she get her own TikTok show I mean she can just have her own TikTok show Like Tyler Carlson just made his own show He's not whining about getting kicked out He actually got kicked out

Yeah And from all accounts he's a lovely guy Right He's I mean no one accused him I don't know about all accounts, but I'm sure some accounts. I think it may have been some accounts that are not great, but whatever. But, I mean, the point is he went and made his own show. Why isn't Ellen?

Yeah, that's true. Well, Harvey Weinstein. Yeah, no, she shouldn't complain. She should make her own thing. Should Harvey Weinstein get in on the TikTok thing in prison? Do you allow to? A prison is allowed to make TikToks? I think that should be a First Amendment issue.

If we're going to talk about the First Amendment, shouldn't Harvey Weinstein be allowed to be on TikTok? I say yes, even though I find a man deplorable. I still think he should be allowed on TikTok. Yeah, I mean, should prisoners in general be allowed there? I think a lot more fun. Yeah. Oh, you can't profit. So give it.

I mean, that's always a problem with recidivism, right? Is that they never have like a bad income after they get out of prison. Let them generate some income on TikTok that they can cash in on when they get out of prison. Well, give the money to the families. Is that not done there already? the family's probably they have enough money yeah you're right

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