Kump - Ep. 174 BILLIE EILISH | MEMORIAL DAY

Episode Date: May 26, 2024

Ray and Lucie discuss an avant garde Memorial Day tribute, Billie Eilish vs Taylor Swift, and much more. Sign up at https://www.patreon.com/RayKump for an extra episode every week! Follow Kump on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/raykump Kump Hand Merch https://bonfire.com/store/kump/ Follow Ray on Sound Cloud https://on.soundcloud.com/QbP8

Hello and welcome to comp. Hello. Hello, Lucy. Hi, how are you? Oh, I'm fine, thanks. Happy Memorial Day weekend. that all the troops who have perished. Is that the way to put it?

That's a respectful way. Who've fallen in the field? You have to go in the field of battle, right? You don't get to come home, like the guy from Save the Prophet Ryan and be like, was I a good man? And then like, and then you have a heart attack. And then, like, you know, on the toilet

and your wife finds you. And then it's like, well, put them in the Memorial Day records. Right? I don't think that counts. You have to go in battle. I think you're still a veteran if you die on the toilet. You're a veteran, but I think you're only Memorial Day counts for you.

Memorial Day is for the past. Right, you're still counted on Veterans Day. On Veterans Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with all the other living veterans and all the other just, you know, and even if it did, I mean, if you're discharged dishonorably for selling stuff out of the coffers or the, army, for instance, are you honored on Veterans Day? Are you still a veteran? I think you're

still a veteran. I don't know. I'll call you a veteran because I don't care who you steal from as long as it ain't me. Hey, steal from the Army, just don't steal from me. That's my motto. That's when I worked for president. That's going to be the motto, the slogan. No, but you don't get to be a Memorial Day recipient of my good graces, unless you go, unless you meet Lucifer in the field of battle. What about, you meet your maker? What if, what if, or God? What if you kind of stayed alive on the field of battle?

It does seem like we're disincentivizing people to do that. You go, hey, what about the people? Yeah, one of the people who, like, hid. They don't get nothing. What if I hit it during the battle And I shot my like I shot my gun at the end Just because like in case my like sergeant like checked my magazine of my gun Hmm

There's no bullets But I shot into the air Maybe maybe it landed on someone Could have What if as you were running away like a coward Yeah Like you got hit with friendly fire And and

Well then you count on Memorial Day oh you died it doesn't matter that you were running in the opposite direction well i don't know it's a good question like what you know i don't think the military i think the military is very political so i don't think they go out of their way to like cowardize the dead you know i mean to say hey we had well we lost a thousand guys in this big battle at bunker hill or whatever but uh but a lot of them are cowards they don't tend to do that it doesn't really help the narrative so it's why we're like unless you got a real as your sergeant really thought you were a piece of garbage right yeah like i i swear to got if you i'll find out if you were running i'm

i'm gonna look at your finger footprints around you i'm gonna see if you uh if you if you got if you trying it over that's why it's a good point you're better off not trying to where are you running to well you're better of just laying still i think yeah there's probably no real safe place like if you find a farmhouse go into it like in that movie then they get shot in a farmhouse whatever all quiet on the western front

didn't seem very quiet seem very loud I don't understand the title what do you mean you don't understand the title it wasn't quiet well it's a double meaning no it's what one of them's wrong no no it's kind of a double meaning there but it's not double it's only double if they're both right

I think it's double because it's because it's about, it takes place sort of towards the end of World War I. So it comes like it ends when. Oh, right. Because they're negotiating the armistice, right? Right. So like I, but like they were, it wasn't quiet. But then also it's quiet because there's a lot of people who died. That's and they're, but usually when a lot of people die, uh, there's a lot of people die, uh, there's a lot of noise, even afterwards.

Because the people are like, when you die, uh, and I've, here's the thing about war. I mean, I'm not, I haven't been. to war, but I'm going to clue you in on something. Not everyone dies at the same time. I don't, it seems odd. But, I mean, it's not just like, you know, a battle starts. Everyone dies. It takes a while.

So, like, people might be injured. And when you're dead, some other guy is screaming because he's getting his light cut off by a sawbones. Yeah, but when they call off the war and then everybody... That's what I call a doctor because they saw the bones. Well, I guess when they call off the war and everybody goes home they take the bodies with them right i don't know i don't think maybe probably if they can i don't know like at the psalm for instance um which was a big battle in world war one with the british

and the french probably i guess were the germans i forget but uh but it was one it was famous for like they just kept sending wave of wave of guys out of the trenches into the the meat grinder of a machine gun nest on the other side of the on the other trench, right? And so there's like hundreds of thousands of people died. I don't know if they picked all of them up. That seems like a lot. I would just leave them with, I would just put dirt on top of them.

I'm not the most, I'm not the, I'm not the least lazy person. So if I was a general, I would make me call up, I call up the other, like pretend you're the French general. Okay. Ring, ring, hello? Hello? Hey, it's Ray, you know, the general from England.

Oh, hello. Yeah, it's up. Look, I know we're supposed to be fighting each other, but we got, look, I think we both have been to a lot of guys, dead guys here. Oh, there's a lot of death. And, uh, yeah, yeah, uh, these machine guns, wow, right? What are we doing? So, um, so many people they kill. Yeah, they kill so many people.

It's just, it's not our fault. It was good. Well, I don't know, it's good. I mean, it's sad, right? I mean, either way, uh, I don't know if I really won't feel like picking them all up. I think it's bad for morale for like my guys just be picking them all up all the time. So how about we just like agree to like make a, make a field here where we cover them in dirt?

This might be true. Is this what a ponderous field is? It's not. That's where they're very unknown people. Well, isn't like the poppies or in the poppies kind of symbols? Are they just playing the poppies over the dead people? Is that what happened? The poppies are a World War I thing, right?

We're two, I don't know. But I think the poppy field is supposed to be some sort of, maybe place where they buried people, I'm not sure. I don't know how to do the opium. Maybe it was. Because poppies were opio, the buzz, opium. I once saw in a documentary that there's, I think it was the psalm, where, like, they, they. She's very happy about it. I think it was the song.

Well, it's morbid, but it's interesting. Like, the, so many bombs went off. bombs i i mean i knew i knew they in world war one they they draw there was so much artillery they drew bombs over the like out of airplanes but not it wasn't the same as world war two it may have been artillery like there's so much artillery right right right that went into the ground that there's actually like natural that now it's like all now it's all hilly like it's like there's natural like divots in the in the ground all over the place is that is is it like is it like is hollywood hills

it's like very very chic oh i live at the sam i live at the vanguard of the sam it's like it's a single resort development it's like a place where i have a pool i've an infinity pool uh you know and and i bring women back there and i cook them sausages because england or france french like sausages right if i was going to be an english playboy do the wait do the french like sausages don't you mean you're you're you're you have some kind of French and you don't, you know, aren't, aren't they, isn't there a sausage thing? I think, I think, look, they, they live in farms, a lot of French people that live in Paris. Look, I'm sure they'd eat a sausage if you put it in front of them.

I don't think they're, yeah, yeah, I think they eat sausage. They're pigs. They're pigs that's right. I think they have wine and sausage and, you know, I think it's a thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's true. Everyone has sausage. Literally, everyone in the world makes sausage. You take sheep's intestines, you know, shove stuff into it, meat, other things, spices.

is Memorial Day. It's like Memorial Day. So here's what we have to, here's the thing that we're supposed to. I brought this up for a reason. Not to talk about who eat sausage or not. It's Memorial Day. I want to make a memorial for the troops who, you know, died in battle or running away.

Because if, you know, we count them all. Even if you were hiding in a farmhouse. Yeah, I think you should, by the way. I was just posing the question, but I do think you should count the people. people who were killed as they were running away from the best. I don't think you're, well, I mean, look, it's scary, but I don't think we should treat them the same.

I'm not saying it makes you the worst thing in the world, but we're going to go out of our way. The reason we have Memorial Day, right, practically speaking, is so that they get, you know, because like, all right, look, I, I get, this war, it's fine. But next time, people are going to be like, wow, last time a lot of us died, right? And I'm not going to want to go again. We, you know, you fool me once kind of thing. right shame on who but but but what if we treat them like heroes right that's the idea that's what I'm a moral lady's the thing I'm not saying that like you know it's that cynical

in my heart but that's just look come on let's get real so my point is I know we all love America but I'm just saying that like I don't think it's good to treat for that purpose to treat the guys running away even though I'm not judging too hard uh like I get it's scary fight or fight or fight you don't pick you know we have a lot of like victims instinct kicks out yeah sure uh that being said it just doesn't work well for society if we're just like you look run away or don't

we're gonna give you a medal anyway right yeah and here's your medal of honor for being a coward I'm not calling them a coward but I mean objectively they kind of comparatively are compared to the guys who didn't run their cowards it's true if you run away from the battle? I mean, I get it on a human level. I can get it. But you are compared to, at least, relatively a coward. I'm definitely

not saying we should give a medal of honor to people who are cowards. But Memorial Day, I think, can be equally for them. Well, look, I mean, it does seem like if it wasn't for this war, you wouldn't be dead. When you're frying your hot dogs, you can think about the people who are cowards, too. I mean, look, here's the thing. If you got drafted, first, it makes it more understandable. Like, and go, look, I mean, you didn't ask for this. If we didn't have this war, you wouldn't, you'd still be alive, even though you're a coward.

But that being said, but if you, if you, if you, if you signed up on your own and then ran away, no. No. That's, there's no excuse for that. That's just, that's being a tease. I'm a fight for the country. Then you don't. Well, what if it's like a come and see situation and like, coming, come and what? You know that movie come and see?

No. Oh, okay, come, oh, that come. Okay. The regular come. Okay, well, I thought he meant like coming in the sea. The cum that's normal. I thought you were envisioning some guy who went to the ocean to get one out before the battle. They got shot by mistake.

His hand was, you know, with hammers in his pants. It's very shameful. I'd be so ashamed that that happened to my son. My son got found like a Normandy with his hand in his pants. Oh, my God. Can you imagine that? He's a shame you feel as a father. We've had your son die at Normandy.

I don't know. At least, I mean, you know, the greater good. Well, not really, sir. I mean, we found him jerking. He jerked himself to death in the ocean. I'm just imagining you commiserating with another father. And he's like, yeah, my son was a draft dodger. And you're like, yeah, I know how you feel.

My son was a classic come and see. he died just went over there to jerk off and watch the act so anyway died with his hand in his pants so many young men that day he died with his hand in his pants one hand over his heart the other in his pants

anyway the point about the point I'm trying to make here is Memorial Day should be for the ones who did I'm not judging that. I'm not saying it makes you a bad guy. You got to get stressed out. I don't think I've ever been under that much stress.

I mean, it would be crazy if I got found out somehow. You'd be like, you put yourself in someone's like POV somehow. And you realize that like that one time I like worked in like a, at the movie theater concession stand for like a summer. And it was like, you know, Friday night. Well, you know, it was very busy. And you found that that was the same amount of stress as battle. I don't think it is. Imagine that.

Just imagine if that was a case. It probably isn't. But it's possible, I guess. There might be similarity, isn't? I guess I was working at McDonald's. And they got very busy sometimes. And we also, the McDonald's was similar because we really were like

well-trained. They were a well-oiled machine, kind of like a military. It's kind of like being in the military. Maybe. Maybe I'm overstepping. Maybe Memorial Day, sometimes I'm to make the day to make that comparison.

But, you know. Regardless. I know, I think you make a good point about how you have to have been, you have to have been drafted to, to run away. To run away. Yeah, I still don't love it. I'm still going to have to throw about it. But what if it was one of those situations where maybe a, maybe a 15-year-old guy wanted to be brave and he pretended to be 18? Wait, wait, what's going on?

Well, people used to do that. For what purpose? To, like, entrap somebody? No, not to entrap somebody. were traps in general and in general like I thought he was 18 in world war two I'm not like I didn't do it was on purpose I mean yeah I just I didn't he look old I don't know there were guys in the world war two era who would pretend to be older they would they went as kids they pretended to be older than they were oh for the war yeah oh okay if you're a child soldier you mean to get into the army

can you run away no no no well I mean really kind of like I don't love the look look I mean, like, everyone loves Anthony Edwards now. This is a basketball thing. But this guy, Anthony Edwards, a young guy, 22. He's not that young. He's not only 18. He's 22. Everyone loves his spirit, right?

He's, I don't show about this guy. He's good, he's a good player. He's a great player. But it's just like, but he's a little cocky, in my opinion. And go, well, he's young. Yeah, he's young, but you don't be cocky when you're young. And the same thing applies here. I might catch a lot of heat for that, for that take.

That was just too cocky, but whatever. And if you don't know, don't you don't know it's fine but the point is if you're if you think you're such a badass that you go oh no i well you guys go you need a fit 18 but i'm 15 but i'm such a man i'm gonna go the war now all right and you run it's pretty lame dude that's pretty that's pretty that's you really bit off a lot more than you could chew oh how bad could war be oh i'm 18 I'm 18 I I have no respect for that. I don't know what you thought wore a while.

I've never been under the illusion. I get back then, the propaganda was more like just, you know, you didn't have, like, you know, anti-war films. You didn't have a, you know, you know, these, like, you know, car and much platoon, right, and film metal jacket. It wasn't around back then. Right. You didn't, yeah, you didn't have all the anti-war.

You'd have Johnny got his gun, whatever. Commentary. Yeah. That being said, I don't know what you thought this was. You saw, you also, you saw guys of. peg legs right they were all there was the guy who worked at your corner shop at a peg leg you thought he was just a little coward you didn't see all the guys coming home with with parts of their face are plastic now yeah what about that guy the guy the guy you got you know the fandom of the

opera face yeah he was just a he was just the clutz so i don't know tripped and fell a stack of bullets so no i don't give i really don't give any credence to like oh i was 15 like well you're a liar you're a liar and a coward i love how unimpressed you are by it i've seen so many like i'm really impressed if you don't run away yeah then that's like holy shit i mean i'm wow okay fair enough but it multiplies how much you know of a coward you it works both ways it enhances it if you fight and if you run away you're more you're a liar and a coward that's fair yeah yeah i do think okay what do you think about this maybe we should have like uh i feel like we should have a special like a a special day like

a special day sure but one that we make we control and we make all the money off yeah exactly but it's a special day just for um just to remember uh the officers child soldiers oh like i say so if you're relative with a child soldier you get like you get to wear a golden maybe a golden tuxedo. I think ideally we don't have child soldiers, right? We don't, we don't want to encourage that. I'm going to nix that. Some countries have child soldiers, and it's usually not looked upon well.

It's usually not a bragging thing. And look at all the children when we send to war. Well, it can be a solemn thing. No, no, I think sometimes in history is best just to, you know, pretend things didn't happen. Now, I would like to have a separate, a separate, a separate, Memorial Day for the officers. Okay. Just because I feel like they get overlooked just because they went into college and they

don't do like the actual fighting. But they also plan the war. And like they get some guys killed, maybe, but like, you know, otherwise what? They would, you know, the army would just be like a bunch of guys, you know, fighting on their own without some daddy. Yeah. You need daddies. You need the daddies.

So, I mean, making an officer's day, it's not better, but it's a little better. But, you know, whatever. It's how the army works. but the officers club is better than the regular club right probably yeah maybe it's not as raunchy you know i bet the regular enlisted guys club just raunchier if any veterans are out there he let us know if it gets raunchier in the enlisted club but whatever so you know you have an officer's memorial day and then we'll also have and later on we'll have a regular memorial day too i feel like we give the officers this one and eventually we'll look up with a different one or whatever

But that's not while we're here. We're not here a reinvent Memorial Day. I want to make a memorial. And I'm thinking like a big glass coffin. Is there something in the coffin? Bodies. Oh, wow. Just actual human bodies.

Yeah, I feel like we take, we take Arlington, right? We just take all those people out of Arlington. I think you throw John Kennedy in there. Imagine, imagine the World Trade Center, for instance. Like, that's, I was over there, you know, just walking around in that. It was nice. I saw one World Trade Center. Imagine if all the people,

who died in 9-11 like it was it was a glass like vestibule or foyer that's crazy and it was full of skeletons that's nuts why don't think we do enough with skeletons in this country I feel like i feel like Mexico might do more of them maybe they're not real skeletons i don't know but i mean the whole you know day of the dead thing that would be pretty cool and then we what i would love to have heroes be put on like um like their skeletons hanging from like and where they've been troika dummy kind of apparatus or just and they dance to music but they do a national anthem right

imagine if George Washington's skeleton was like hanging over the World Trade Center yeah not like the overlooked entrance you know and just kind of going welcome to the World Trade Center be some guys you know I think all the all the skeletons of the presidents would be cool yeah we have like random people who died in 9-11

random people who died in war it seems a lot of those people to be fair to make your point a lot of those people were running away. So, I mean, you know. It seems like it would be a little undignified to stuff all of their remains and in one cough. Yeah, I want the people who ran into the building. Anyway, so whatever.

I mean, or maybe a spider, a giant memorial spider. I don't know. I mean, like, I don't think I'm memorials. There are always weird shapes. The Washington Monuments is a big spider. Why not a spider? yeah it makes it as much to do with george washington as his as what we made does i mean at least the lincoln one looks like him i know jefferson's just the dome right is adam why doesn't

adams have one what if it's like a why doesn't adams have a monument i don't know doesn't he like more important than jefferson wrote the declaration but he also like i don't know and he bought louisiana i guess you got by louisiana that means something in this country Maybe it's like a giant spider in all of, like, its eyes. Yeah. Its eyes are all reflecting like a fallen soldier. Right. The ones you didn't run away.

And it will just kind of like, you know, there will be a loop. Okay. So if you look at the eye of the spider, you'll see a bunch of like things. Yeah, I love it. I love this. Put it and put it in the middle of Central Park. Right? Yeah.

And it also, maybe its body is a bomb. a bomb like an actual bomb and its legs or guns wait oh wait so not a bomb we're going to use no oh okay I think it's like a bomb I don't know why we're doing this I feel I feel like you're being disrespectful

like why can we just have a spider oh it's gun and a spider web is a spider web is is a you know anti-aircraft enclave you know oh and the scud missile is his teeth where's it stop lucy yeah you're right anyway so all the heroes out there we see you could that be the new thing memorial day we see you oh we see you oh oh you oh you oh you die sneaking into a trying to steal chickens from a farmhouse? I see you at Memorial Day.

Do you say have Memorial Day to everyone? When you would have Memorial Day, did you ever have Memorial Day like picnics or barbecues to your family? Not really. It wasn't a big. I don't remember. I did. They were great.

We had Pudgy's chickens. Pudgy's chicken. What's the Pudgy's chicken? Oh, you have Pudgy's chicken? No. My uncle Mike used to throw his barbecues. And he was great. And he had a nice house with, like, the barbecue was like brick, you know, one of those things.

But not nice. I mean, it was a fine house, but the barbecue was nice. I remember. It's a big brick, one of those big brick ones. And, uh, and he, you know, he put a good spread out with hot dogs and hamburgers, but he'd also get pudgy's chicken delivered or pick it up or whatever. And it would be great because he'd always brag about how they didn't put, there was no skin. Because that, Long Island is a weird place.

where like it's the least healthy place I can think of but like they like the pudgy their fried chicken place we take the skin off first before we fry the chicken like you're frying the chicken I guess the skin's got a lot of trans fats perhaps or just fat saturated I don't know when you're when you're frying in like in this oil what's the oil

that the people say don't not to fry it in trans fat oil yeah people make a big deal about the oil for fried chicken how it's bad poly saturated fat yeah maybe we're used the ones they're used used to use i mean i'm just i'm just saying like i mean like hey we took the skin off first and then we fry it it was good though it was tasty i don't know if it was better than the other ones but you know

it's tasty and you have you know heroes and i don't know my point you booze it was a funny and we'd play bachie ball yeah bachie ball is a good yeah it was fun memorial day so yeah it was like uh but i don't remember ever saying happy memorial day maybe we did was it a friendly was it a friendly game of bachie ball or did it get competitive i mean i screen probably a lot, you know, but I was a little kid. I'd be like, fuck. And my dad was well, shut up, shut your mouth. And I just get a little like, ugh. And that's these these are what like, you know, these are the things that kind of inspired me to like threaten to burn his house down later on in life. Yeah. Um, whatever. Happy moral day, dad.

What else is going on besides? Oh, uh, we didn't remember to like and subscribe. Remember? Yeah, please like it. I don't really memorialize this podcast by liking and subscribing. You know, you like it, you subscribe it with 26 minutes in. But why don't you hit a notification bell while you're at it? To remember the fallen troops. Is it wrong?

Am I cross the line now? Hey, hey, hey, remember the guy who died defending that, that, that, that, that, that, that, uh, that eagle's nest, not, what they call the crow's nests? The machine gun nest. Oh, is that, is that what it was called? I don't know. was that the Eagles does the guy's the different thing

there's a different thing different war um whatever notification bell Patreon for the troops no don't do it for the troops do it because you like the podcast we don't want I don't want to be seen

monetizing soldiers do other things for the troops yeah you know plant a poppy field and not for heroin don't do it for the heroin oh wow do you think soldiers hate us me and you like us personally yeah me and you personally or me do you think they hate me well i mean uh volunteer firefighters hate you right

well i had running with them once but i mean i don't think they all do well they all know about me have you ever like have you ever spent any significant amount of time around veterans um like a group of veterans no not really have you you were you hanging out of the VFW? I have like, I probably weren't parties at VFW holes and stuff. I mean, it wasn't a ton of veterans. I mean, who, what do I know? What about, what are you?

Well, you go hang around, uh, Home Depot? Is that, like, where you see the most veterans, like pound for pound? I don't know. I don't know where you find all of them. I feel like a lot of them know how to build stuff and, you know, and when they come home, the kind of guys who do their own work. Sure. You know, some veterans are not going to come home and, like, go to task grab it.

Right. I go, hey, can you fix my, you know, toilet? They'll fix themselves. They're a veteran. So, like, you know, pound for pound, Home Depot. Of all the places you could go, I think you'll find more veterans at Home Depot than David Busters. That's probably true.

Or Sephora, a makeup store. Right? Yeah. I'm just curious. I don't know what that. their recreational activities are. I mean, you're people.

Recreation is invading countries? No, it's whatever people do. They go see movies. They go see Planet of the Apes movies, perhaps. Right? Yeah, I can see Veterans Like Planet of the Apes. Why wouldn't they?

I like Planet of the Apes? Yeah. I didn't think I would. I like the original movies. You know, Charlton Heston. And Roddy McDowell and then for years I didn't watch any of these Planet of the Apes movies

These These uh These these What's it for rise of the planet of the apes And and war Attack right or I don't know Point is We watched a couple weeks

Dawn Sure Dawn of the Planet of the Apes And Rise of the Planet of the Apes Seems like it's basically the same thing But We think rise in dawn are the same Yeah I mean

Sunrise and dawn are kind of the same Sure It should be like like rise um continuation of the planet of apes at the very least dawn of the planet of the apes should have come before rise of the planet of the apes look i think you look hollywood would do better if they hired you to consult on titles um i don't think is their biggest problem but yeah it wouldn't hurt because you you do have a good logic for that you're very sharp mind for when the name is wrong

that being said I like the James Franco one we watched him you know I didn't see the new one yet was this the kingdom in the planeting apes yeah yeah no I mean I think that I haven't seen that one but it's just a patient I've been watching

these films and his rise of the planet ape I mean James Franco is like a bios chemist or something oh my God very bad as far as his acting and just this whole I mean I don't think I ever noticed it before. I usually like him.

He's good in Pineapple Express. But when you try to make him into like, you know, the guy who, you know, shoves chemicals into a monkey's brain, it doesn't ring true. You can't make him smart. You can't try to make him smart. I'd love to go to his acting school.

In a movie. You know what I mean? I would love to go to acting school and have him teach me a thing or two. Who can die? Wait, you want to join his sex cult? Oh, so I was kidding. Yeah.

I was getting at the sex cult. I want to be in a sex cult. Wait, did he actually have a sex cult? I don't think it was a cult per se, maybe it was. I mean, that's, um... I know Jared Letto had the, supposedly has the sex cult. People say that.

People, a lot of people say on the, on, on the Twitter that we don't, I've never seen it. I've never, no one's ever been like, hey, you want to come to Jared Lutter's house and we, and then join this cult. No one's ever invited me to take part in the, in the, in these interactions of sex and cults. Um, I, I don't think I would get to go to the eyes white shut, you know, the building from eyes wide shut. that state well be a little ambitious

well I'm working yeah maybe if I can get one of the you know I'll start work I'll start lifting weights and becoming a lawyer and maybe you know I'm working my way into it that would be nice I think it would be nice to go to one of those parties not to have sex

what was you do we eat the hoagie it would be the one person we brought pudgy we were pudgy chicken hey they don't put the skin on they take the skin off before they fry it No, that's not the skin. That's just the, you're thinking it in the bread. It's still fried in the bread and bread in the matter, but we take the skin off for the skin.

You know, it's kind of that clearish, kind of heavy, you know, when you see it. The skin, they don't have, it doesn't have the skin. Sure, it tastes good, but it's not great for you. Well, neither is the oil. I hear you. I hear you on that. Anyway, we don't really want to have sex. I just need to bring chicken.

why don't we just go get chicken on their own yeah what do you want to go for if not for the chicken you usually like the part where they like in cloaks i like the cloaks part but also i suspect even though i'm sure no one eats it yeah there's probably some pretty good food at a nice wide shut party like there's probably you know there's got to be at least one room with with really good food i don't think they have a lot of food i'm not saying they have like a buffet what you think they have But I... You think they have a sit-down dinner? Everyone sits down and eats a big turkey meal.

I just think they probably... A roast chicken dinner? I mean, it would be... If those people were going to make a roast chicken dinner, I'm sure it would be exquisite. There's nothing better than a good roast chicken. Really isn't. Yeah, very juicy.

Very juicy. That would actually get... A nice roast chicken would actually get me very much in the mood to have sex. They're not just strangers. in a cloak but I don't know about Pudgy's chicken Pudgy's chicken would

actually make me feel very greasy I wouldn't feel comfortable like kissing kissing women my greasy chicken face That makes sense Maybe it's why you have the mask To cover your greasy chicken face

Oh god Why what are we talking about? So anyway Planet of the Apes I mean They're fine I don't know I don't know

I don't have time to say it but do you think the veterans like them it seems like I feel like they might do you think you're planning apes and we're running them of war I don't mean anyway I'll say I'll just say this

I don't think it has to be said but I don't mean because I don't Roseanne got a lot of trouble making hints of planning the apes that's not what these are very relevant films that's all I'm saying and they're involved wars but saying anyone's the ape

right um no i don't think i don't think that like a veteran's going to get flashbacks from watching the planet of the apes something are ferocious those like the apes are like pretty aggressive i mean it does feel like combat i imagine i think you might get a flashback the beginning of the third film with Willie harrison when the soldiers those guys are all soldiers and then the apes attack with the rose and arrows oh yeah the third one is kind of like Like, it's like, I guess, Bridge on the River Kwai, but like with... Sort of, a little bit of like, hey, we're going to make you build a wall. Yeah.

Bridge on the river come. It's not that good. It's fine. It's all very fine. I know what you expect in America and at the end of America. You thought the best films are going to come at the end of America? It's not going to happen. We're not, we're here.

Take what you can get. That's my other campaign slogan. Hey. Take what you can get. Do you think it says something bad about me? Because I don't know what your emotional reaction was. But do you think it says something bad about me that like I don't strap in? That I didn't really care about the apes.

Like I didn't I didn't care. Yeah. Why? That's something of empathy and you don't have it. Yeah, sure. I like I just didn't care. I just didn't care if they died. Um,

like when that time, when like when Woody Harrelson kills the the lead apes family. Right. I didn't feel a thing. Look, I'm not going to call child protective services on you already. I mean, you have a child. But either way, like, I wouldn't use this in court against you. But, yeah, it sounds like, I mean, I wouldn't brag about it.

You know what's weird? I was watching it. And this and an ape just gets shot in the face. And I felt nothing. It doesn't, it's not like, oh, look at you, hard. You're hard. But I know I've, I know I felt bad when animals die in movies before. You just don't like it when digital animals.

I just don't like it when humanoid. animals humanoid animals dying. This just means you don't care about humans dying. You're like a peanut person. I don't know. I don't think, I mean...

I don't think in any way, like, it's positive. I don't know what to tell you. No, you're great. I love you, my wife, but I mean, don't say this out loud. You know? Keep these stars you keep yourself. And don't tell the world. I think it's because I...

On Memorial Day. you know fair enough for the troops for the troops uh speaking of the troops billy ilish and taylor swift are scuffling beefing are they beefing a little girl on girl violence don't make it sexual don't make it don't make it hot uh billy ilish calls three hour concerts psychotic amid taylor swift feud let's get to the bottom of this because honestly I tend to agree I've never been to a three hour concert

and it all started back in March when Billy when Ilish spoke about now if you don't know Billy Ilish she's that girl he's just singing about sleeping with your dad that's her big claim to fame like I'm the bad type sleep with your dad while he's ripe

whatever that song was yeah and the music video is like a bunch of like middle aged dad bods and it's like yeah this is this is who she fucks was the plan to like get dads to pressure their daughters to listen to this because like it's like why why who does that appeal to everything's very cynical yeah are those guns going off or is that was that fireworks it might be fireworks can you everyone hear that we need we need a bunker to record in I can't stand the fact that people are shooting around us

imagine New York was just getting bombed right now oh my god we're like we're like Taylor Swift um shots fired shot at my gut uh when ily spoke about the environmental ramifications of excessive vinyl variants uh which artists put out to boost their sales sometimes though her remarks were jabbit swift so i guess a lot you know artists they make these different vinyl records with like different pictures of their pussy on it like this is my pussy if it was blue and this vinyl's my pussy if it was red waxed but they're both of the same album

yeah but they're both of the same songs I was singing about some guy when she used to date the guy from Oz is one of the guys Taylor Swift dated that you broke up with the Schillinger from Oz Shik K Simmons I mean that would be insane

that would actually get me to like Taylor Swift these guys were actually just like not all older but like weirdos like one of them was uh who's that guy who's the irish guy everyone who's very crazy and he's good actor the cyrus guy or whatever the cyrus guy wait which guy who's the virus from con air no john malcovitch that'd be amazing if she dated john malgavitch i guess that was the plot of louis movie right i love you daddy oh right yeah with a who's that francis ha no it's Chloe Cloe Severnier

Chloe Moresz was dating with a John Malkovich? It was John Malkovich, right? Yeah. I thought he was very sexy in that movie. I mean,

he was pretty good. I'm kidding. He wasn't that sexy. He was kind of looked very old. He was very, he was definitely old. Yeah. Yeah.

If she was dating him from Ranglinger, that would be great. But I feel like he got the assignment like you're supposed to be old but like you've got to find some like there's got to be something a little bit sexy about you.

No, I'm not saying. made a bad movie. I'm just saying it maybe was bad, but like, I don't know. I mean, I'm not one. I just think you're on Malikovitch. I think he's a great. I'm a big fan, so I don't know, I thought the movie was, you know, interesting. I'm just saying it would have been a real interesting

take if it was, if it was like Teddy KGB from Rounders, right? Right? The Russian mobster from Rounders, John Malikovitch and he's dating a younger woman? Mm-hmm. He was like, sticking

around. Well, I smash the pot whenever the fuck I please. Anyway, how'd we get on to this? Billy Ilish, making different variants of, oh, no, she's against it. Some dance remark, struck the remarks or a jab at Swift, that it can easily be applied to many musicians. I mean, I never thought, does Taylor Swift make a bunch of vinyl records? I guess she does.

yeah do you know I have no idea you don't listen to Smith I assume yeah someone as big as her she probably makes a lot a lot of vinyl of her

I don't like to say yeah I don't yeah I mean I did I did buy a vinyl copy of the Charlie Brown Christmas album Target but I don't like you can buy vinyl

a target now I mean I only got a record player this year but I mean I'm not like I'm not like one of these audiophile guys who listen to a lot of ton of vinyl

or anything that being said I don't It seems to go against the whole point of vinyl for like these very pop stars that have vinyl records, right? It should be like you find some like old jazz album that you pretend to like and you post it on Instagram. That seems to be the point. Some funk thing that no one actually listens to,

but we're like, this is great. Look at it. Look at what I found. Right. You know? Maher. These are industry-wide systemic issues. Eilish wrote at the time.

that she also takes part in the marketing practice. Oh. So, right, then you're just a... Hey, I'm a rat, you're a rat. You're a filthy hypocrite.

Yeah. I love it when people just did, I love it when people like come out against something and immediately announce their hypocrisy. Yeah. Well, you shouldn't... I do this too.

Then stop. Like, you don't complain about it or stop. You shouldn't use child labor. Even though I, I use a ton of it. We probably shouldn't be doing this, you know? We shouldn't be putting a kid.

and the machines to clean it, even though their hands are so small. It's such small hands. It makes it better because they can get in. And then if their fingers get chopped off, who cares? Because it's just a, you know, poor kid. You're just disposable. It's not, you know, there's no life to, you know,

you haven't accomplished anything. So I, you know, whatever, right? That's the way. I'm the kind of person who, even if they make it illegal, I'm not stopping. Right. It's interesting that rich people don't, like, a lot of people will get a child dying

and they go, like, well, I think part of the, no one really, no one, here's the thing about being a normal person. You don't really have to point out why it's sad when a child dies, right? Right? Yeah. Help me out here. Sure, yeah. Okay.

That being said, I think the rationale for deconstructing it has partly to do with, you know, because they hadn't had a chance to live a life, right? Mm-hmm. So much potential. Right, their potential. But there was nothing. But rich people look and they go, well, you haven't accomplished anything, so you don't really have a life. that's what people don't understand about the rich

and this is what I would explain when I'm running for president and I think I can win one day people go you won't run for president wait and see how bad things get eventually you know the world and me you're going to meet each other in the middle

you don't know how low the middle is going to get you haven't seen it yet I have an instinct eventually I'll be desirable for the role of president And go, well, I'd rather be dead. I'm sure you would. I'm sure you would.

Have Memorial Day. The climate crisis is now, and it's about us, all of us being a part of the problem and trying to do better or sheesh. I don't think sheesh helps anything, but whatever. This is not really what it's about, though. Things may have to heat up once Eilich released eight eco-friendly vinyl variants. How are they eco-friendly? Is she making them out of trees?

That's not eco-friendly, though, of her album on May 17th, as well as multiple follow-up digital releases. Meanwhile, Swift released a few more digital versions of tortured poets, as well as a remix of her single Fortnite by music producer. This sounds like we're, what is all? Go with a part that's interesting. Here are the eight vinyl variants.

Where's the, okay, here you. So she's on the, live stream I guess wait there's a bit more to the discourse than that oh this is the article these releases are pretty par for the course for the most part of the evidence is pretty circumstantial blah blah blah blah then i'll share her thoughts on psychotic three hour concerts of may 23rd quote i'm not doing a three hour show that's literally psychotic ilish said during a fan discussion so basically oh nobody wants that you guys don't want that i don't want that i don't even want that as a fan my favorite artist in the world I'm not trying to hear them for three hours. Look, far be from me, I'm, am I, color me surprised that the girl who threatened to sleep with my dad which was like, really, I mean, cool,

what do you show you his model trains? Okay, but like, you know, but I mean like that, that girl is based. Because this is, this sounds base. Am I using that word right? It sounds based. Three hour concerts do kind of sound like they suck. Three hours, who need,

look, you need to stop. People need to stop going at three-hour concerts. You know how long a concert should be? You know how long it should be? An hour and a half. However long it takes to play, born in the USA. You know? But on the dead man's turn.

That plus four minutes, you know? Right. You play it encore, you play it again. That's only a lot. Born in the USA two times. Two times. You don't mean, any more than that would be annoying. I think Bruce Springsteen could get away with that

I think he could get away with I mean maybe he could I mean playing that song twice and then leaving I'm pretty sure people go to boot They follow him around don't they And they make bootlegs of him And he does covers of like old blues legends And they don't pretend to like it

Whatever happens that Bruce Street I've never been to one I'm sorry I'm not an elite I've never been to a Bruce Springsteen concert I don't have a thousand dollars I'm sorry to spend on Bruce tickets shots fired at bruce i'm the fan of the working man

they're giving me six hundred dollars you beat your shit you really sell your kids look if he doesn't charge that much then I don't care whatever then fine I'm wrong and who gives the shit I suspect it's not cheap to go to you bruce right

well that's what the market demands no it's fine I just don't know why he pretends to be you know a hammer in the sickle and the profit margins you know it's it's it's it's it's incongruent as I would say um happy Memorial Day happy Memorial Day how long does Swift perform during the Erez tour three hours and 15 minutes yeah I mean no one needs this shit you got remember people go these things they think this experience I look maybe it is for you you shouldn't have his experience it's that no one cares about you with these concerts you know no they're not you're not forming a connection you're not you're not you're not you're not

you're not if you're experiencing it's it's just just do drugs you know you're doing them anyway why do you need to just listen to a CD oh I really saw Beyonce who cares oh I saw somebody they're not better I mean they are better than you but I mean like why you go out of your way to see people who are better than you right you know why don't you go Why don't you go watch a garbage man? He actually is better. He's actually doing hard work. You think garbage men should have concerts?

Where they do garbage work? I think there should be, I think there should be at very prominent garbage stops. I think there should be like bleachers. You buy tickets and you watch them, you watch the impressive. And it's short because they don't spend three hours at one stop. Yeah, you watch them picking up all kinds of trash. Well, yeah. You watch them hammering.

rats. But it takes two minutes. You know, they stop. You're at some prominent intersection or wherever garbage gets picked up, you know, in the city of New York. And they, and they're screaming. They were yelling and said, move your fucking car! And they throw a rock at the guy.

And then, you know, whatever. It's fun. And it's lively. And you're smoking, crack with the garbage men. Everyone's having fun. We don't need Beyonce singing for three hours. She's beautiful. She's, she's, she's, she's, what's the word?

She's a star. She's a star, but enigmatic, right? She's effervescent. Mm-hmm. She's an icon. She's a diva. I don't need three hours of it, though. Right.

Why can't lemonade just be like, just give me the best one. Give me three songs from lemonade and don't go home. Yeah. Lemonet, I need my lemonade. Does the song who does? I want my lemonade. Defend the troops Lemonade

I've been to plenty of comments I've been the smashing pumpkins I've been the violent femmes It's like three hours We need that shit Why didn't you play Dishw like a cover of a Dishwala song Remember Dishwala?

No What's Dishwala? Give me all your thoughts on God because I really like to meet him I think that was a Chihuahua as their one hit it was like late grunge is almost

like alternative is almost over songs like 96 probably yeah give me all your thoughts on God let me get it wrong this while it might be a different one but if I'm right

that's pretty good pull I didn't admit that so what's going on so I mean the fans are mad at her because I saw this beef on Twitter people are mad at ilish yeah um because she's taking shots at biance and taylor swift basically yeah you should you should keep your mouth shut your mouth and fuck my dad

unsurprisingly many fans believe ilish was dissing swift and biance considering a renaissance tour also boasted a three-hour runtime i don't know the renaissance tour and the eras tour seemed to be doing pretty well for what apparently nobody wants when TikTok user commented this sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This story sucks. What else we have? Let's end it with this.

This is a nice one. This is a real Memorial Day story. The world's most arrested man dies at 74. Kentucky legend Henry Earl was busted more than 1,500 times. That's a good outlaw name actually. Henry Earl? I like that.

Yeah. I'm Henry to Chase Earl. That'd be a good name, right? Yeah. Henry Earl, whose criminal history included more than $500. I mean,

yeah, now it's going to be like, oh, he's like, 1,500 child loss station cases. Then he looks like idiots. Which criminal history included more than $1,500 passed away last week.

He was 74. This has to be 74, this has to be 1,500 separate bus, too. Like, not just, like, different charges on one bus. I don't know. I don't know how that works.

For the last several years of his life, Earl resided at a nursing home in Owentown, Kentucky where he racked up the majority of his arrests. Oh, he racked them up at a... A nursing home?

This seems like they just kept arresting a mentally old man. Or maybe just in Lexington. I don't know. As reported in these pages, Earl was regularly collared for public order of crimes fueled by alcohol and booked into the Fayette County

Detention Center in Lexington. They want to try to get him rehab. that probably would have been the move right the move yeah why can he just quit in a kinder society yeah they were just they were just hugged them I would have bit them and got wrestling again uh when tsg stopped counting earl has spent a staggering six seven days in the county lock it up for offenses like public intoxication intoxication and disorderly conduct violent crimes did not often appeal on earl for digits rap sheet right I mean it's 50 hundred crime so i mean there's got it's like if it's not often it's still maybe a bunch his last arrest was

in april 2017 that's a long time is eight years ago this guy's kind of a poser he's laid arrested owens in cemetery no surviving family members were identified well what uh what uh what uh i thought that these were gonna make i thought that maybe some of these crimes would be yeah like fun and elaborate he ran naked through a cinnamon bun right and he pissed all over the cinnamon buns and everyone was mad at him. That's Earl. Remember when he ran naked through a through a candy shop

and shuddle over the candy? I'd throw all the candy out. Crazy Earl. Earl to chase. I thought he'd call him. What's the, who's the most prominent criminal you ever met? The most prominent criminal I've ever met.

Yeah. Geez. I'm not sure. But, I mean, you must have met them at the jail, but. Well, I don't, I don't, well, I met Pete. I didn't really, all, first of all, doing someone's mugshot doesn't mean you meet them. Maybe it does, I guess. But there was no one that can remember was prominent.

I didn't interact with Bernie Gets once. Oh, you did? Yeah. It was, I think I instant messaged them. Wait, you made first contact? Well, he was on the Open Anthony show for a while. You instant message. Well, they mentioned his, like, his screen name.

I don't be Anthony's show I used to listen to. And so I just went on AOL instant messenger and I was like, hello, Bernie, yes. What did you say? Did you say, hey, I'm a big fan? No, I just said, hey, how's going, Bernie? He's like, hello. Was that, did it just end there? Did it just Peter out there?

I think so. I might have mentioned his hamsters or something. Hamsters? Yeah. What kind of? I think he mentioned them on this show. I don't know. Imagine if we had Bernie gets on.

They're like, well, what do you do now? He's like, well, it's been 40 years since I shot those black kids. I mean, you know, I do all those things now. I have amsters or whatever he was talking about. I don't remember, Lucy. It wasn't, it wasn't, this wasn't, this wasn't finding Forrester. You know, I didn't have, like, he wasn't my mentor. I just.

So Bernie gets big leagued you a little bit. No, he actually said hello to me. Yeah, but he didn't continue the conversation. He didn't express any interest in you. I didn't even say anything. I mean, imagine, imagine. imagine he's actually very if you think about it very nice some random person you're doing your mind in your own business and all of a sudden one of those windows pops up is hello burney he goes

hello i mean that's very odd behavior he might he might he maybe he's hoping i would you know reach out to him more yeah possibly i don't i don't feel good that i brought this up now you make me feel a certain way about this. I think it was a nice, wholesome story. But then you said, how's the hamsters? And he just said, he just... I think, I don't remember exactly. He just ghosted.

No, I think he said, they're fine, probably. If he said it, I don't remember if it's happened, exactly. I remember one time he answered back. That's what I remember. Bernie Gatz was not impressed. Whatever. I mean, I'm not impressed with him either. you know

he's just an infamous man um no I think you're better than bernigas yeah I thank you oh I whatever a fellow fame I have it's not from shooting kids

no again I don't I mean I don't know I didn't want to make this the whole anti-Bernie guests thing would they attack him I forget if they were attacking him or not I forget how that whole story went down now did he do the thing where

because I know like George Zimmerman part of why people hate him is because he sold like t-shirts and stuff like did bernie gets do that to be like to be fair to george's admit which i don't want to be but uh they hated them before that sure but i think that inflamed it sure it didn't help i don't think bernic gets really tried to capitalize on it um but i don't remember maybe he did so what's i think he said at the end one of the things that got him was like you're still moving and he shot him oh he was down the ground okay it's not great it's not a great thing to have done i don't know

I just forget the details. I mean, I think they were, were they mugging him? If they were mugging him, it's one thing. I think they were at least, like, hassling him, right? They were hassling him, yeah. And, like, there was, like, kind of a crime wave at the time. Yeah, it was a different time when people, you could shoot people on the subway, maybe I go to jail. And so he was confused.

Right. Am I going to be one of the guys who gets away with this? Yeah. I don't know. You know, look, I could see it being, like, I could see, I don't necessarily think he's like a cold-blooded killer or anything. Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't even want to take sides here because I don't remember the details and I've admitted to reaching out and asking about his hamsters or something

I just don't know how this makes you look I just want to take the tongue oh sorry no go ahead when you were reaching out to him I don't don't say it like that was it was it mostly just the novelty of it yeah I was like 18 or something yeah I was like that makes sense yeah I wasn't like this guy did something great Like they mentioned like I'm listening to the show They're listening to a screen name And I'm like I'm like

I'm like Hello No totally If I had like Elizabeth Holmes screen name Yeah I would I would definitely message her The girl from Theranos Yeah the girl from Theranos

Yeah totally Do you have it? We should interrupt No we should get it Yeah If anyone else Elizabeth Holmes from Theranos Let's know We should try to get

Become her prison pen pals You want to try to like joint date her you want to ask her to be in trouble with us we should offer to adopt her baby did she have a baby yeah I think she might be pregnant right now in jail I think yeah I think she got pregnant like it seems like she may have got on purpose yeah to get some leniency well I hope I hope she has no leniency I don't have the judge I'd be like were you you you thought you were going to get leniency what you really got was mean mean mean mean I mean I mean I shouldn't be a judge

I have more appreciation I have more appreciation for judges who really throw the book at you with those quips Anyway if you're a soldier who served Thank you Thank you very much If your soldier who ran

I'm gonna say thank you personally I'm gonna say thank you too Yeah still thank you I don't know if this holiday is for you But I'm gonna thank you Not for running but you were there I thank you for running Yeah

Well All right I mean we can't we can't We can't incentivize running Let's see Thanks so much for listening to the show either way uh don't forget like and subscribe please if you could uh it helps apparently they say it helps and the notification bell uh we also have a patreon uh where you get it's not just

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