Kump - Ep. 217 Trump's Secret Box

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

President Trump claims he left instructions to “obliterate Iran” if he’s ever assassinated—and KUMP breaks it down. Ray and Lucie unpack the death box, JD Vance’s loyalty, and whether the Pope can rebrand as Jesus Christ the First.Plus: how much war profit should taxpayers get? Should you be able to invest in a nuke startup on Robinhood? What’s the point of Ted Cruz? And why the NYC subway needs Roman-style phalanx shields.Subscribe on Patreon for weekly bonus episodes:👉 https://www.patreon.com/raykump

Welcome to Kump. We are here watching President Trump respond to an interesting question about Iran. Let's take a look. I would. And why say that you're unhappy to sign it if it's Iran and their proxies who have threatened to retaliate against you and your team by killing you guys for taking out Soleimani? Well, they haven't done that. And that would be a terrible thing for them to do. because of me. If they did that, they would

be obliterated. That would be the end. I've left instructions. If they do it, they get obliterated. There won't be anything left. And they shouldn't be able to do it. And by... I'm not sure that's how this works.

Right. As much as I don't want them to do... I mean, God forbid, the Iranians try to take out Trump. I think it's advised. I think it would be appropriate for the United States, you know, responded, you know, with obtuse force. Is that I think obtuse force?

If I was the president, I would say, I'm going to give you an obtuse force from here to the afterlife. That's a time where you want to use the carrot as a gun, right? Yeah, like the sticks and bones. But I don't know that the president can leave a note if he's killed. I don't know if that's how the pen.

I don't think the Pentagon can like, it's like you know it's like it's like you get a box and this open open in the event of my death and just contains a bunch of you know puzzles and maps and like war plans written in crayon I don't think you can do that it's not I think it's one of those stupid knives out movies that they make with the Daniel Craig where you know they're supposed to oh I'm dead well now follow these mysteries it's like you can't do that like will J.D. Vance follow the orders uh in that box perhaps it might you know he loyal like that is jd vans like i mean he does he just seems to do whatever he's told go to greenland and look like an ass he does uh you know go go you

tell him you going to conquer greenland whatever he's he's like didn't he like get the pope killed i mean he gave the the pope tb or something yeah he gave the pope like you know some kind of you know venereal infection through his hand of a doorknob he's uh you know he's he's the he's the he's the i don't know the there's charlie chaplain of politics didn't charlie chaplain was getting the into weird situations but yeah i i got it's possible he'll just go well here's the bog the box they have to level i ran i have to turn it into into a into a garden of death it'd be funny if he got to the end if it actually happened and jaddy vance opened the instructions and it was just like bomb

America. And it's like, okay, I guess I have to do it. His wife's like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm the pressure I'm under. You're the president. You do whatever you want. It's not that simple. He knows.

He knows. He's up there watching over me. Trump, it is an interesting thing. People go, why'd you stand? There's no standing. I mean, you can, but it just means you leave. Trump's the kind of guy where it's like, you know, you either leave or you do whatever you're told.

Like, there's no, like. you know, oh, I respect him because you have the backbone. There's none of that. You know, it's just full compliance. And it's like, you know, a bunch of yes men. It's like, well, I guess the people, you could argue that, you know, when you have a situation like that,

it might be, it might seem more noble to be a worm and to go along with it. Because, well, who is going to come and replace me? And it's a valid thing. You know, the monsters Trump had in his first turn. might have pushed back on this whatever this

you know is this just just cavalier we haven't attacked Iran directly yet in America no and he's being very coy about he's being very cool you're right Cois is the word Iran I'm Israel sorry

is specifically Netanyu was that yet Nahu another way I said we're not weird out weird out yet nahoo he's he's doing everything he can to get to get us to just bomb and level

the entire the entire Persian Riviera if you want to call it and Trump is not resisting I wouldn't call it resistance it's kind of a hit or two going on it's kind of a little seductive dance where he's like he's like you know

maybe well let's see let's see what other offers I get for Saturday night you know let's see who else wants to court me But, you know, it's a strange, I don't know what the strategic benefit of any of this is. I don't know what the commercial benefit is, except for certain people who might have known ahead of time that we were going to do with this. It just seems like all downside for us. Yeah.

All downside, all downsides. I shouldn't say. We still have a warning. What if Ayatollah? What if Ayatollah Comani reached out right now? It's not Comani. It's Kamani or something. Comini was the original one

Who died in like 89 And then the new one is the Aitoa I believe Kameni It's very similar I don't know how that word I don't know if that guy changed his name To be more similar to Comani Which would be

I mean Is it like Pope names where you all like Well Pope is like You picked from like five names I don't know It's a good point Well I think Pope could do whatever he want I think a lot of popes just try to like you know

Align themselves Here's popes get very insecure because, like, well, I want to be, like, a great pope. So I'll name myself this, like, you know, and be lying to that guy. But you're always the Pope. And you always forget that. I would name. I would name myself, I would just be Pope Bray. Let me know you got to change your name.

Well, you know, my name, Raymond. So let's go by Ray. What's your Pope name? Pope, Pope, Pope, Jesus Christ. What if I came into Paul, Jesus Christ the first? Is that, is that doable? Can I do that? I would love, I was like, I'm Pope Jesus Christ, don't get confused, I am not that Jesus Christ, but I'm the first Pope named Jesus Christ.

I mean, there are so many Latino Catholics who just name their kids Jesus. If they can do it, why can't the Pope? Yeah, I'm Pope Jesus. I mean, I does take this thing off of it. Yeah. In Italy, I think, you know, at least in the English world, the British-speaking world, when we say Jesus. So when you, when I hear Jesus, you're right, but it is Jesus.

But I don't tend to make the connection all the time. But you're right. It's just, so I mean, maybe if we did hate it, I'm Pope Jesus and most, and then it was like, it's fine. And then you just start slowly slipping in. Pope Jesus. Pope Jesus. Jesus was a difference. I'm not saying I'm God.

I'm God's messenger on earth. This is why are you getting the Kim twisted? So I don't know. of us has how the Itola's work. But we are on the brink of World War III, maybe. So what if the Ayatollah

Kamanii reached out to Trump right now and just, you know, started... And just said subscribe to the KOM podcast? Yeah. I don't know what Trump would do. Something nice like that.

I think we'd be smarter from... If he said, hey, hey, let's break bread. Let's take things down a notch and subscribe to the Com podcast on YouTube and, and wherever platform you're listening on because I know you are because it's great

and he'll go Don't kill me I'll bomb you Right, right But this is a comp podcast It's topical, it's lively You're listening to it right now Subscribe to it

It costs you nothing Trump And then they go They also have a Patreon He's like Patreon He's like Patreon. Oh, I'll bomb me Patreon.com slash rate comp You get an extra episode every week

For five bucks a month That's not bad That's a pretty good deal we have a have how many leave us alone without making a nuke even if we were we're not now we're not so it's fine

this is the kind of situation now where we're like you could just stop bombing them now and it's probably fine even if you were I said last week I want them to have it and I stand by that

because I want anyone who we might attack I'd rather they have one I don't think it's ever good our military I want them to be as strong as possible for a reasonable amount of money, to be clear. I can be spent too much.

But whatever. But, yeah, I don't want to be more powerful than us. I get that. But I don't, but we, it's too tempting to have all these, you know, available. It's like we're trying to go on a diet, right? And then somebody in you, and someone in the house just brings home cupcakes every day. I'm not having a big fan cupcakes, but whatever. Gummy worms.

I love those gummy worms from Haribu or Haribow, right? And, you know, when someone brings those around, Yeah, yeah, it's just, oh, you wouldn't want those just sitting there while you're trying to not eat, right? In the same way, these generals, these defense contractors and these, and these deep state operators and these banks and people who run the banks, whatever, they just love a country that doesn't have a nuke, where they can just bomb. And, like, it can't be Europe for some reason. No one never goes after Sweden. I'm not saying we should, but it just seems like, you know, they don't fit it. I might even saying it's an all Islamophobia.

It's just as a narrative. It goes back to the Middle Ages. I get it. It's convenient. There's no Swedish narrative where we're like at war with the Crusades and all that. Like it doesn't fit. That's a good point. Like the most dangerous, like the worst place for a country to be in is like almost having a nuke.

Right. You know, like if you're not even close to having one, if you don't even have any of the materials. Yeah. You're a little bit, you know, then you can make the case. This is a small country. You shouldn't be bombing it. What are you doing? Right.

If they have a nuke, then they're impervious to certain things. I wonder, though. But it's that phase of being almost there. How did India get one? India was a big country, right? And I don't think anyone wanted any of you to have a nuke. I don't think the British wanted them to have a nuke.

I don't like, but they ended up because we weren't looking that hard, I guess. I don't know. I don't, yeah, that's a while back. Iran got, I mean, Israel got, I think, because they stole uranium from us. Good for them. Well done, boys. Props. Yeah, props.

But if Sweden was trying to develop a bomb, I don't know that we know until they tested it. Who's looking at Sweden, really? Are we really devoting, like, NSA, you know, echelon and, like, you know, and CA, you know, heavy assets towards Sweden? I imagine being on the Sweden desk. It's got to be one. I mean, how many countries are there, like 260-something something?

Right? And like, imagine being one that's on a Sweden desk. I mean, there's reasons to have it there. I get it. But it's just kind of, you don't, if you want to date and I know you're not supposed to tell anyone anything, sure. But when you go on it, if the girl's hot, you're telling her about stuff. You know, you're trying to get it in. You're hinting at least. You're hinting. Hey, I can't say anything about Russia. Oh, whoa, whoa. Let's get some sizzling fajitas. They sizzling. I love it. I mean, I would only, a girl, I would only tell the one, you know, what would I do at the desk. Oh, I'm not even supposed to mention the desk. With the one, what were you in the one?

What did that mean? I just imagine the guy like holding a kind of like a carrot, like kind of like a carrot going like I would only tell, you know, a girl I was really serious about, about the, about what I do. About how I killed those children. I poisoned that well. but we only got to say we were trying to get the local Catholic Church Diocese to let us use their one of their churches as a missile base and so we had to show we meant business it's all

it's all very it's a real politic you know it's all geopolitical um yeah I'm just saying so I ran look did we overthrow their democratically elected you know prime minister today when he nationalized their oil back in, you know, 53, I think it was. Yes. Yes, we did. Was it because BP, on behalf of BP, the British, well, Churchill,

actually, I believe, he was that power at that point, but was he back in power? I think he was back, he had a gap, but he was back in power, and he basically, they wanted him, but like, oh, we can't really, we don't have the manpower for this right now. Let's, I'm going to pull him off on the, I believe it was, uh,

Eisenhower at the time. I'm going to pull him off the dumb Eisenhower and his stupid minister You think I Eisenhower had that great speech Everyone loves to bring up He's like you know And beware the military industrial complex

Because they tricked me To fucking overthrow when I ran They're really crafty We should really just have I feel like we need a A holiday or something Like a national day That's recognized

Where any senator Any congressperson of any party can just come out and say what another country has on them basically and they won't be judged for it right you know like I that's a great idea that's a great point you bring up

because it comes up you know it was a well I want to get to that in a little bit that's a great idea when we get to that next topic that's actually gonna be maybe a useful thing that we could maybe sell to somebody

I love you why can't you sell political ideas by the way If I have an idea of how the government could run a little better, how can't make a little money? Everyone else makes money. We're trying to make some money. We're trying to get some nice things. I want some baubles.

Every other podcast has baubles. You know, where's my baubles? I think you explained this to me before, but what's a bobble? A bobble? It's any kind of, you know, shrinket, like expensive trinket that's just nice, like a nice watch would be a bobble, wouldn't it? Or the bubble will have to be just like a jewel. I don't know.

It seems like it would have to be useless, like a diamond egg or something. Right, like a Faberget egg, everything would count as a bubble. I love a bubble. You know? I was watching that Michael Shannon guy or some thing on real, you know, home architecture. He's like, here's my marble apple I bought in Florence, Italy. He's like, it's my favorite thing I own. It's a treat to myself.

And he was like, he seems a little bit relatively modest. He was a very nice apartment in Burr. but like you know relatively modest life i've should just for the video whatever but he's like he's like he's like it's like a half it's like a apple of a bite taken out of it like this is the best thing i own it's a marble that's a bobble oh man uh what so yeah i mean we we over through most dick uh and then we put the shot in power right resa pelavi i believe his name was who's His dad was the Shah. And, like, I don't think it goes,

it only goes back a couple times. I mean, his dad was, like, put in by the British. This whole thing was very, you know, ad hoc. Persia was a great empire for centuries. I don't know what happened during the Middle Ages. But, like, the, you know, this Iranian Pahlavi regime doesn't go back to Persia. It's not that old.

But, uh, we put the Shah in power. He was pretty brutal, but also, you know, if you had money, it was pretty nice. If you weren't that Muslim, you seem to like it. The people who are really Muslim didn't like it. Because I guess he would beat them for wearing burkers. I don't think you should be forced to wear a burker, but I also don't think you should beat people for wearing them.

Yeah. And I'm not saying he did, but the Zavok, I believe, the Savak. That's what his secret police were called. They were pretty brutal from what I've heard. They did a lot of Abu Ghraib type stuff, perhaps. But, you know, people didn't report on as much. And then they had the Iranian revolution. in the 79, and they took the hostages, and it was bad.

You shouldn't do that. It's, you know, wrong. But they didn't kill any of them, and that's pretty unique. Not completely unique. Yeah, that's pretty good. Not completely. It's the only time it's ever happened, but it's pretty decent. Yeah.

So decent, it was like 54, they have for over a year. That usually doesn't happen. Usually at least one or two get winged. Did they do any weird sexual stuff to them? I don't think that, but they did kind of do mock executions and make them think they were going to get. So it's not perfect. Yeah. They weren't total gentlemen.

Don't get me wrong. But I mean, you know, if we're going to make it out, like, they're the villains of all villains. You know, they're James Bond Spector or whatever hell. They're the Army of Thanos. You know? What does Harry Potter have? The wildings? The wild wizards?

I don't know what that book is. What's it? Severus Snape is wild wizards? Are those the villains? There is a Voldemort Right, right What's his crew called? What's his crew called though?

I don't know if he has a crew I've seen snippets of it They like they yell these There's people who infiltrate There's enemies Yeah There's other people There's bad guys in the books

It's not all It can never just be one guy His face is glued to some guy's face At some point I'd love to make a thing Oh really Yeah That's interesting

I think that was in the first one That's very interesting We just literally glued it. I love a villain like that. I'd love to be a villain and it's just me or whatever. I mean, maybe people wouldn't be afraid. But you just go around and you're getting your ass kick some of the time. But it's always you.

And you're like, I'm just here. And you just won't go away. That would be the worst villain, right? Like some guy, like if a genie can make you a mortal but not like that powerful, but you're always just bothering people and sometimes you take them out. And sometimes you hurt them and they kill you. cute you, but you come back. I don't think they always deal with you, but you're just always a nuisance.

Right. That, to me, it's the greatest thing. The worst thing. But, you know, people, like, Iran is the worst thing. I don't think I ran. I think I ran, you know, look, I mean, they overthrew the guy, the CIA, they called the embassy, a nest of CIA vipers or something, which sounds about apropos. It seems like, I'm not saying I'm on their side.

I don't know that the best people. I know women, some of the women, you know, a surprising amount of these women do want to wear the burq. I don't know what the ratio is. I know they say people get sick of it. The pendulum swings. There's like, some of these women are definitely as intense as their husbands. Yeah.

Like, about the religious stuff. Sure. Like, I was reading something earlier about, like, some girl got assaulted or something. Yeah. And the wives of all of the guys who did it came out and were like, she kind of had it coming. Right. Look, I mean, it's true.

it's very messy when you look there's a there's a degree to which people don't want to be dominated whatever the hell things there's a pendulum right even in America we had tradcats for a while right yeah and the people who are doing tradcats

used to be communists and now they're like I don't know now they work in you know in some kind of in CIA black sites and just carving people up is people you know there's horseshoe dairy right and I'm just saying you know but like when you try to make

the horseshoe your people people sometimes you know I'm just you can't just over you can't go on

we said this in Iraq that they were going to like throw Laurel reefs at us right right

they literally said that they were gonna they were gonna throw like they were gonna throw pink roses at us and put us through a gate

I don't know they have a gate or an arch basically I remember I like the McLaughlin group or something or crossfire

you know back on Carlson was on crossfire And they're like, yeah, they put us through an arch. Like, in Washington Square Park. And it's just going to be pink roses everywhere. And they're going to be like, good, good job.

Saddam was a bastard. Right. Didn't happen. Yeah, people only do that under threat of death. Like, they only celebrate you and pass you up like that. If they think you're going to send them, if you think, if they think you're going to feed them to a lion. Right.

Also, like, if you, like, you can't, like, put a guy in power. Like, I mean, they know. People know more. than you think they do. They know you put Saddam in the first place. You would use them to attack Iran. Right, yeah. You know, they know we're messing around.

No one Iran is going to be like, oh, we know we love America. They may not like the mullahs, but no one loves us. So I don't know what the plan is, but it's fine. You know, are they, do they want a weapon? Yeah, maybe. They do, I'm sure they want one. I would want one, right? Does it mean you're going to use it?

Probably not. They're not suicidal, probably. I think it's the biggest misnomer. This idea that any leader has ever been suicidal, I think is crazy. The people who get into charge never want to just, like, go. I mean, don't show me some stupid terrorism thing. The CIA actually did. But what they didn't, let's assume it didn't do it, right?

Okay. When is it ever, like, I mean, Saddam is the closest thing, and he didn't have it. Right. The crazy thing with Saddam was like, give us the weapons. No. I don't got him. well let the inspectors in I mean what was the thing

he kept saying he was he kicked them at some point right the inspectors right and I'm not sure maybe he maybe he told they're gonna plant weapons that's yeah that makes sense that's an interesting thought I just had you know why

because he he took a great for granted how like how much we cared like oh he probably did think well they're probably planning weapons because I don't got weapons I got rid of them like years ago right And you probably don't want to plant them. And the funny thing is, we didn't plant them.

We should have. And we didn't care. We didn't even bother planning them once we got it. And people are, well, there's no weapons here. Interesting. But you were sure we had them. Yeah. Maybe we were.

But is anyone going to be accountable? What does that mean? We're going to be accountable. No. Was that real question? No. It's an opposite. They're going, oh, I don't see.

You'll see. Anyway So should we go after I ran? I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's in our interest. But it never seemed like it was. Are we going to get cheap oil? I don't think we will.

Is China going to get involved? I mean, they're getting cheap oil now because they're saying, you know, they got a deal in the sanctions. It's all very cavalier. Right. The polls are saying, obviously, you can only trust polls so much. But, like, you know, it is saying that a lot of, like, Trump supporters,

specifically support it, which is interesting because I've always kind of associated them more with like an anti-war part of the Republican Party. Yeah, and like, and they seem to be support it. They can just, but I guess they're just like sleepers. They just get activated. Well, yeah, you would think that they would be like America first, right? And so like, hey, look, this is Israel. I'm not saying they should be, you know, going after Israel.

And Israel, go to hell. I'm not saying they should be saying. But it's surprising the extent. extent to which they're, like, doing it for Israel. And they're not concerned at all that we're doing it on behalf of a foreign country, and it's not really our interest. You would think that would go hand in hand with the whole MAGA thing. Right.

Yeah, the excited, oh, we don't want to, you know, American jobs, get these immigrants. There's too many immigrants coming in, which, yeah, look, it's a problem. And I don't know if you're solving it, whatever. I mean, you could argue maybe, maybe if you just make, make ice wear it, like, you know, wear a uniform. Why can't I wear a uniform? Right.

I mean, someone brought up the mask thing or well the people are docks in them. Okay, okay. You can't get a shirt that says ice on it? I had a shirt that said the morgue, had the morgue symbol on it.

I wore it everywhere because I liked it. It was one of those like under armor type shirts and it just fit really well. So I wore it to the movie theaters and everything. People were talking like, I can't get a shirt like that. I'm like, no. You need to work at the morgue. You tell me, ice can't get a shirt.

shirts they can get shirts why are they not wearing shirts like why are they dressed in flannels like they're going to a sound garden concert enough I'm not saying don't deport people I mean whatever this is the game but just just just dress up like a door like a cop

I mean I guess sometimes you got to infiltrate but I mean like you're not blending in you guys you guys look like you're like the most Militant, you know, Milo-Kiley fan group I've ever seen. Yeah, they look like secret police. Yeah.

I mean, stop fetishizing out being secret police. That's just, you know, you're just too try hard. If you were secret police, you'd be secret police. Not that you guys really would make the cut in the secret police. You're too big. You're too bleh. You want, you need people who are like sneaky to be the secret police. you know like the german like like what's his name in glorious bastards you know right the uh yeah

the german guy the austrian guy whatever his name is you know give me some milk please you know that's what you want the secret police you don't need some burly freaking psychopath who's like watching doctor mike on youtube and how do i get my gains anyway it'll be funny if like in a week there's like a viral video if you just get you just get in shit beat out of you by ice. You're just getting dragged into a van. I think they could beat me up. Don't get me.

I'm not calling them pussies or not. And I just don't know why. But you guys aren't secret. You guys are very, Sylvester angle, you know, just wearing ice shirt. And you take away the argument, right?

Why are you giving people the, like stop trying to get the Supreme Court to shut you down? If, on the counterpoint, the people on the left or whatever should be telling you know do the opposite hey shut your mouth they're doing your work for you they're doing it so you stop doing in such a cartoonish way it doesn't it seems like

everything is cartoonish nowadays nothing seems real no one seems to know what they're doing well maybe they do but it just seems chaotic right anyway uh but my point is I don't remember my point is but we have uh what's this so speaking of people who want to go into iran what's this uh bring the uh this is Tucker with the uh So Ted Cruz I thought Ted Cruz Was like not dead but like I wrong here

Didn't wasn't this like political career over or something And he seems to be coming back lately I thought like after he ran for president And embarrass himself You know That he would be gone But he's still there Yeah

And so which ones this is the Right okay Where's the one where he talks about the The famous clip by the way This one yeah how many people living around by the way I don't know the population at all no I don't know the population

you don't know the population in the country you seek to topple how many people living around 92 million okay yeah how could you not know that I don't sit around memorizing population tables well it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 Why is that relevant?

Well, because if you don't know anything about the country. I didn't say I don't know anything about that. Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay. No, it's not even... I think that's actually true. Look, I mean, it is cheap shot.

Oh, maybe slightly, but you should have been able to go at least like, I don't know, like 70 million. Yeah. It's 90. All right, 90. Yeah, right. You should have no idea. You shouldn't have no idea.

Yeah. Never, never say you have no idea. You're always better off guessing and, like, it was. double that. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah. But I do I know affirming you have no idea, it's never a good idea in my opinion. Also I think he missed an opportunity.

And then this is assuming I'm Ted Cruz in this case. Ask me how many people live in Iran. Do you know how many people live in Iran? Well, a lot more than I'm about to. Tell you that much. I agree with that line B. I mean, it's evil, but like, you know, why is no one if you're going to be... But it's, yeah, it's

Why did everyone choose to be, like, I mean, the thing, but Trump is the only guy who, like, actually goes for the panache anymore. Most of these guys are, like, are happy to be these, but now evil bureaucrats. Right. You know, like, you know, put some English on it. This is something that Christopher Hitchens used to do. Or it's similar to something Christopher Hitchens used to do in debates where he would say, I think it was with Charlton Heston. where he was basically talking about during, like, the Gulf War, where he asked him, he was like, can you name, like, the countries that border Iraq? Your children.

No. It's too chay. Can you name, you know, the countries that border Iraq or something? Let me try. Iran, Syria, Jordan. Let me say. And perhaps turkey? Can I get a little turkey?

Let's see. Pretty good. Actually, yeah, Turkey in the north. Oh, Kuwait. Obviously, Kuwait. Miss that, yeah. Let's see. It was bringing us up real.

Saudi Arabia. Did you say Saudi Arabia? No, of course I should have said that, too. I'm a dummy. No, but you got most of them. Oh, yeah. Saudi Arabia's a big one. But it's like, I feel like that's a somewhat better version of the quizzing thing.

Yeah. Because, like, that actually is really relevant to, like, Yeah, foreign We were saying on that We were talking about some the Patreon this week And I forget For a different reason

And I was saying I was like I just I know these things And then map stuff It just leaves my head immediately I just can't retain I can retain other information But map stuff

I always forget I always think like Is England on top of France Or below France I just can't remember stuff I mean I should know I know I know the reasons Why it would be there

But I just can't It's just my My whatever So you're a But yeah, so he and what Charles doesn't do? Bull, pull a gun out. Yeah, they threatened to kill himself. You British Pants.

I'll have you. But yeah, like, I feel like that's a little bit less petty. Like, ask it the population number. That's a little bit of a cheap question. Because like, who knows, who off the top of their heads knows the exact population of most countries? Well, look, I mean, I do think. realistically i think you're realistically i think you're right yeah but here's a problem i do think that senators at one point and maybe he's a pipe dream knew a little more than the average idiot

yeah that's definitely true we're just like no no we actually i i'm like isn't he on like the i mean the maybe he's not on the foreign relations relations committee maybe he's not maybe he's not on any kind of defense committee i'm pretty sure he's on a couple committees they're kind of important. Like, you have to make laws. Right. These guys are all like, I mean, I think they are. Like, he's probably a lawyer, which is, I know, I met a lot of dirtbag lawyers in my life.

And they don't seem that smart to me. But it's better than, like, you know, not doing that. Yeah. You think they can retain information at least. Even if you cheated, you copied off something. Right. I don't know. Whatever.

It just, it seems to go, well, like, is the population number or cheap shot? Again, you should have said, like, I don't know, 200 million. Yeah. 90. Well, it's less than, oh, so less. This is what you should do. That's not the best move. I correct myself. Always overstayed it. Yeah. I do think this was a really good interview in general, though. No, there's some other clear. Yeah.

Oh, this is your favorite part. Yeah. I came in to Congress 13 years ago with the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel, of the United States Senate. And I've worked every day to do that. What? What? I mean, I don't understand.

Tucker did a great job of kind of calling them out and, like, questioning, like, A-PAC, and we'll get to that in a minute, maybe. I got to say that confused dog thing. It annoys the hell out of me, usually. Oh, Tucker's tactic? Yeah, but when it's actually directed at, like, somebody in a real position of power, it can be really fun. It's fun, yeah, you kind of, like, Tucker can be a fun guy.

Yeah. Even he, though, doesn't challenge it. I mean, he might have his reasons or his tactics. And, you know, Israel is a very touchy subject, let's just say. And you can't, you got to question it a lot. I mean, maybe they don't throw you in jail. But, you know what I mean? You get a lot of, you get called on names if you ask questions too much.

But, like, you know, it does seem like a strange instinct for a Republican senator from Texas. to go out I want to get to Congress why to make sure to get more cows for your state or make sure to make sure

you don't have droughts or what else happens in Texas you know to make sure the rodeo gets funded oh no

to make sure it is the Israel it doesn't seem like you can be your concern for Texas right I know the Christians and somehow

this idea came along that like you know Christianity is tied like we've always been the best friends of Jewish people

people, which is, you know, I mean, I'm not saying we shouldn't be. I'm not saying, you know, but it seems, that's not really, I mean, if you think about, like, the most time of, like, Christians, you know, like, we are Christians, you know, like, Crusades. Right. It wasn't really a great time for Jews. Yeah. You know, Richard Leinhardt, that, you know, that, you know, a crusader king that one was talking about, he kicked him out of England. And I wasn't right. I'm just saying, like, this idea that, like, well, of course I would. It seems to not, I'm not saying it to be, It's such a bad instinct. I'm just saying maybe it's not a real instinct. Maybe a little bit more going back and forth. I don't know. It just doesn't make anyone evil. It just makes them, it's more just a why are we not questioning it? Right.

It's their job to try to scheme, you know, any country, lobby, whatever. Get your, why is it, why is it, but, you know. Yeah, why does it have to be your priority as like a. Sure. But also, if I question you, why? Why is it like, oh, of course, because I'm a Christian. And that's like, what? It's all the Bible.

People take it for granted, like, all these people are maniacs. Because the whole thing is that, like, you know, at least with these evangelicals, that like, in Israel needs to be run by the Jews so that, you know, something to do with that when the apocalypse happens or for the trigger the apocalypse. Because they want to, they want the apocalypse. And it sounds crazy. They go, wow, these guys are maniacs. And then you used to have to explain why the neocons were all like,

into this, you know, stuff. And then you kind of, and I'm realizing maybe that's just a smokescreen. No one else seemed to have that priority until, like, you know, 20 years ago. But, you know, I don't know, let's see. What's the other clip he had? He talks about something

with the third thing we're talking about, right? I'm hardly the one who's... I've never taken money from the Israel lobby. Have you? Taken money from the Israel. From APEC. So APEC raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually a misnomer,

because the people who raise money are individuals. So it's not the PAC itself, but they're individual members who believe in the American-Israeli friendship. Is it an eight-pack of foreign lobby? No, it's an American lobby. It's the APAC stands for the America-Israeli political action. What is it lobby for?

So, to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen. I can't. No, we're really bad. They're a club. They're the Keystone cops. They can't do nothing. Right.

to Congress 13 years ago with the stated intention of the beginning of that club Do we have the thing where he's talking about What was it? It was something, it was God I'm blanking

Oh I think that's that From Israel Israel shares The Mossad is one of the best Intelligence sources on the planet I mean I used to look Don't get me wrong I used to love the Mossad

I used to I screwed that up I used to love I've always been into like intelligent stuff I used to read about spies. And I love his, you know, the massage, like, oh, they got like men, right? They weren't guy likeman and Eli Cohen and all this stuff.

I was like, you know, I was like 20 years ago, I was into this stuff. Right. It's fun. And it was, it was romantic, you know, even Munich. I went and just took all these guys out and just cuddled. That being said, like, so I'm all, I'm primed to be like, yeah, massage, they're really good. But like, yeah, that's like, yeah, it's over seven. It seems like really big.

Like, I mean, it's, look, is it, does everyone screw up occasionally? Sure. But I mean, it's not, we're in the post screw up time. Maybe I wouldn't make the case, hey, we're getting them a sardintel. Also, we did the Iraq war. Because the whole way, people make the argument, well, it's really hard for us, our spies to go into the Arab world and whatever. And so, like, you know, we have Israel does it for us.

Well, okay, so the, what was those weapons? Right. You know, the WMDs in Iraq. Nothing. So I was blank on that. all right I'm just saying That's what makes them so good

Why did 9-11 happen Their ability to give us information And withhold it Yeah 9-11 happened That's okay No that's fine Hey guys

Next time maybe stop 9-11 He's referring to He's just referring to All the dirt they have on him They're these really good heroes You wouldn't think Israelis make great hero sandwiches People associate

They're more of pizza sandwiches But they actually They have some delis over in Tel Aviv That make phenomenal deli sese heroes, six foot heroes. He's like, the Mossad is the best intelligence

agency in the world. Every time I have sex with a man, they're right there taking pictures. Well, that's the thing. We have the thing where he's like talking about like, it's a weird, I'll admit, it's a strange angle for Tucker to take, but he's talking about how, like, well, is everyone you know, all our friends, do we spy on? Is that, is that what he's,

maybe he's talking about here. Let's go back to that. The enemies of Israel, the people who hate Israel, they all hate us. It's almost a perfect overla. lap. And so if we tried to recreate, if we're just trying to defend America, we tried to recreate the national security benefits of our alliance with Israel, it would cost, I don't know, 30 billion, 300 billion. So can you elaborate? And again, I'm going into this as someone who's always liked Israel and still does. But I also think at this point, given where we are, it's fair to ask

rational questions about what the benefits are. Good. So does Massad share all of its intelligence with us? Oh, probably not, but they share a lot. We don't share all of our intelligence with them, but we share a lot. It's a close a lot. Do they spy domestically in the United States? Oh, they probably do, and we do as well, and friends and allies spy on each other, and I assume all of our allies spy on us. I assume all of our allies, you know, develop intricate sexual blackmail on us, you know? Yes, do they, do they use honeypots to gain compromise, on, like, virtually every member of our government. Sure, as one does when you're allies.

I mean, I'm sure the Swedes also do that. Right. It's just, look, it doesn't, like, it's the wrong move. Well, I do think some of the tactics, you know, probably aren't great. Well, when the Swedes do it, it's actually Mossad pretending to be Swedish. Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of the game. You'd be a good spy. That's, like, Rule one, like, rule one of spying is, like, who are you?

something else. Yeah. I work for the IRS. Right. Give me that, give me that info. Yeah, it's basically that and also like,

hey, no, she's 18. Oh, you're psych. You know? Right. That's just the whole spy game,

apparently. That's how you become the best spies in the world. He's going, yeah, she's 18. Trust me. I go for it.

No, it's a real alarm clock. It's not a camera. Shut up and do it. Yeah. Anyway, um, that's why I think my holiday idea is good, you know, right. You give everybody a chance. Yeah.

One day a year, you get, you get to talk about everything, every wrong thing you've ever done. Yeah. That's been used against you. No, no punishments. No, no, uh, no using it in attack ads. Yeah. Oh, right, right. I'm sorry, yes, yes.

This is the time when we, it was supposed, yes. No, yeah, there's a perfect idea. That's how you. Compromat, uh, day. I do think it's a great idea I always go straight to the worst thing nowadays And I'm just picturing like people going like saying Like a guy stands up just a heinous looking guy

Warts and sweat marks on his shirt And he just for five minutes Unloads the worst shit you've ever heard of your life Just the most heinous It's like that scene I want to give it Oh man it's a show But it's a show I always tell people to watch But I don't give it away

But you know And it's just like you know it is just it's just if you know you know but the point is and he goes hey compromise day at the end of it and you know I guess we have to I guess it has to be a maybe he's an elected official right you maybe you can only admit to a couple things at once right yeah yeah you get one thing you get one thing you can't you can't just you know because that would that was incentivized way too much a dirty pool mm-hmm dirty-tham pool if you ask me.

It's good because it incentivizes people to use the thing, the thing that they're getting a little heat over. Right. The thing that the spies are starting to, you know, press them on. Yeah. You could just say that. No, you could look. Like, for instance, I don't want to make it, you know,

feminist is going to go after me. You're going to hear some horrible stuff. Famineists are going to go after me for this. But the guy goes, hey, look, it's my friend's bachelor party. Yeah, we had some drinks, you know, a few party favors. a girl come over, she didn't make it through the night. She didn't make it. No one, no, no, no, it's fault really.

But she didn't come out the other end. All right. So, uh, there's that. So, uh, are we going to vote on this bill or, what's the bill? Oh, yeah, we got, we got a war. We're going to buy my rent. What's the deal? Yeah, I mean, it's a good, it's a good idea.

It's a good, uh, look, it would require a huge cultural chef. Sure. No, you have to hear. Look, I mean, that's the thing. This country is very, we're a weird combination of pious. Like, we're so pious, right? And we're like to say America is such a religious country, a pious country. But we're, like, made up of all the people that, like, society's rejected.

And I have to, oh, you're going about the, I'm acting with the current immigrants. But sure, right? Like, I don't think they were thriving wherever they're coming from. The Pope's not coming here to live. right if someone's gonna be if you get to live in the vatican palace you're coming here but the point is you know like everyone whoever came here is just like is a scammer a schemer we told me that's a lot you know the american dream is just yeah getting over yeah but we're also pious we love to have this veneer of uh you know we're oh we you know we we when someone come when something comes out when anthony we're is texting texting some girl showing them her his pecks and his arms and more you know

We act like, oh, what did you do? How many times can you do that and still not surprised? Right. So you're right. It'll be a cold, because we love the pearl clutch. We should have a bunch of pearls on our flag, a pearl necklace. You know? The star to a star should be pearls, because we love clutching pearls in this country.

Oh, what did you do? You have, oh, you disgrace the White House, shoving a cigar in there. I mean, it's not great. Yeah, it's pretty dirty, honestly. I mean, honestly, I was younger. I was less annoyed by it. I do understand being like, it's a little filthy. It's the one look, by your intern.

You know, you know, Kennedy was having like movie stars shipped into the White House. It's a different kind of problem. Whatever. I'm saying, you know, you're getting your intern involved. And people were mean about her, Molly Lewinsky. I thought she was pretty. You know, she's not going to be on the cover of the swimsuit issue. Maybe nowadays.

You see, now that is you, Jesus Christ, what happened than that? She's got a glow-up. That swimsuit issues used to be a lot of fun, right? That Sports Illustrated swimming. Now, I wouldn't bother. Oh, I thought you were saying that Monica Lewinsky had gotten hotter. No, yeah, you're right. Well, I think she had.

She's gotten a little bit hotter, and the standards have gotten a little bit lower. Yeah, I mean, when Tom Green did that thing with her 20 years ago, I mean, it's been a while. I don't know. I don't know if she may, she might, she's probably met herself on the way down again. Whatever. This is not, like, now I'm dunking on her. That's how it goes. It's a little bit.

that I was eubris. I don't know. So should we go into Iran? What's your verdict? I mean, I don't think we should go. But, you know, sometimes, like, once Americans hear that there's a war maybe that's going to happen. Right.

They just start to get themselves hyped up for it, and there's nothing you can really do about it. They really love the idea of war. And then they really don't hate the idea of anyone dying. I mean, I'm not trying to minimize anyone dying, but for people who love war as much as us. I mean, how many people died in Iraq? Like, 3, 5,000, maybe 8?

I mean, compared to, like, all these wars we fought in the past, it's a tiny amount. And people act, like, still like, oh, my God, all these men done. And yeah, you should. I get it. I get it. I'm just saying, like, for people who are as bloodthirsty as we are, and that's fine to be bloodthirsty. We don't have a stomach for it. Right, yeah. We get, we get the, we get bad

war hangovers. Like, we, Yeah, yeah. It's almost part of the fun. You know what it is? We got that Persian Gulf War. It's like a fake war. The first, you know, the first Iraq thing where we went there and like, I mean, a lot of guys didn't even fire their weapons.

And we, I mean, it was like Desert Shield. And there's a one week of Desert Storm, I think. And then it was just over. And we didn't even go after us. Like, there was no, we didn't have to like hold it. It was kind of clean, right? And we were like, ah, with the bet. I had the car.

I had the, can you find, can you Google? like just Desert Storm Trading cards So we can find a picture I had these things I had fake dog cags Not like I was like

I was a kid I wasn't like trying to do Stolen Valor They said like Operation Desert Storm Or something I was like Are these? Yeah

Is it? Yeah That's yeah These look at these I had They were fun I mean I liked them a lot I even got some on eBay

Like 10 years ago But I lost them But I lost them But yeah You think anything You're worth money Nothing's worth money Who made it was this actually like produced by the I think tops made it well I think tops like people make like baseball cards

Yeah they got they got another war effort I'm just saying like we got like so we program people that think you have clean wars and like there's not such thing But we we have because we used to like go to war and like you know I don't know 400,000 people were dying we were like oh man It's rough yeah and now if that happened we would we would invade the moon you know this is an atrocity in for me you know what I'm saying we don't I just it's a strange combination of like you know competing is conflicting tendencies right whatever what am I a philosopher am I going to figure this out whatever go or I here's my thing what if I get out of it I got to get something out of this my tax style I'm not trying to be the guy who's like hey cop my my my tax tax dollars pay your salary. You know, I mean, that's true, a certain extent. But the point is, but in the case of war, I think it is a big issue. The reason most of our tax dollars go to pay for, you know, the war machine.

Every other country has health care. It doesn't work that way. It pretty much does. Shut up, it does. Yes, you know it does. Shut up. Yeah, people love pulling that car. You can't just take from the military budget to pay for universal health care.

Every other country does. Right. I think, well, you know what the difference is? Because there's no us to us. Right. Everyone else has us to pay for. I agree. Make them pay.

Because everyone else has us to pay for. That's why you were able to do it maybe. All right. Well, but there's no us there for us. But also, uh, my point is I got to get a little p. I don't know. It's always, you know, there's always, you know, there's always a guy's scurvy who tell you that, by the way.

Oh, yeah, I get the good health care there. And then literally they have like, you know, like a green line going down the side of their leg. like they have you know shrimp have that shit thing the poop shoe thing right they have that in their leg and they're telling you how the health care in England's not good but uh

no I got we should get a little dividend a little war dividend a little war booty because people are making money don't get me you know I've said multiple times probably I don't know if you play comp bingo you probably remember the times you know me saying apocalypse now uh you know

gun hand and then like you know bring it off how uh I just blanked What was it? I'm not sure Warboot. No, just the Oh,

what's in it for me? Yeah, whatever. I mean, the point is a, oh, no,

a trillion, you know, how many trillions of dollars went missing during Iraq. Oh, right. Yeah.

Rumsfeld was like, oh, we can't have for two trillion or something right before 9-11. But by the time, like,

07 came around. I don't know, it was like, five trillion or eight trillions. And when people had like, oh, we just lost it. Well,

you didn't lose it. I mean, did, I mean, accounting wise. But, I mean, that means, like, we don't, that money got spent. Someone got that money. Trillions of dollars. I want a will. You know, it's true.

Look, I get you can't break up billions for everybody. You can break up some trillions. Right. Trillions can go a long way. Get me a taste. It's my taste. And why don't I get anything? If I fund a movie, I get a piece. Right? Yeah. If I'm the backer

of some stupid American from pie, straight to video, you know, American Pie, Virgin Time, or whatever these movies are, you know, these crude movies. People get, you know, people, someone, they get made and someone puts money up, and then if enough, you know, guys, you know, buy that Virgin Time DVD, whatever it is, you know, then the cash flow happens, and you, and I get back my money plus a little extra. That's the game. That's capitalism, baby.

So why, why not with war? we're not doing that for you but we are but we are it's not about it will be incentivized people why am I the only one we care about incentives for everyone else got bad incentives Nancy Pelosi's making you know double trading legal inside our trading her entire career you're sue me for slander or is it true Nancy

she does she listen to this show probably she should she should if you know it's well I'm not going to say that I'm not going to misconstrued what I say. If anyone's going to have their words misconstrued as me must be clear about that.

But, you know, I mean, does that make me a war profiteer? Yes, but in a sensible way. It's sensible. Right. But we'll join the club. In this country, you're either a war profiteer or you're a sucker.

And I'm a sucker right now. So are you. And most of you at home are suckers. I think. You should be. able to make like you were saying this about bills earlier that like we should

you should also be able to make weapons on spec like new weapons who should and if they're used to end a child's life in the Middle East but what's that thing? You can oh you're saying I should be able

to be a weapons maker? Yeah. Look I think I can I think I don't think that's actually illegal I think if I buy the equipment to like melt I don't know how you make guns you melt something you melt another gun and put it into a gun mold but I'm allowed to make guns

to some of the military I just don't have the capital for that you got you know I don't have to pick iron molds or whatever hell it takes to you know to make you know machine guns but yeah I agree you should be maybe there should be a program for that maybe there should be an Uber for gun manufacturing or Robin Hood maybe Maybe Uber was the wrong analogy

But like Maybe that's an idea An app where you can get together And you can put in a pool With a bunch of other people And make weapons Or fund weapons Or fund a revolution somewhere

Right Or fund a military Maybe this is how I used to work in Rome You used to basically like Generals were like rich guys I think most of the time They were just kind of raised an army And train them

And like they had to conform To like the Legion model right the roman you know wear uniforms and dance around with shields whatever do the phalanx probably you're the phalanx when they put their shields together oh is that what that's called yeah it's called the phalanx it's the idea as you move together and it's really hard to like attack you

I think the cavalry is really good for that though if you get on the horse you can kind of jump over and spirit a guy again these are but you know it would just be a definitely subway riders should ride the subway like that shields yeah just form that I'll just pass through I can't I mean I need another obstacle

people people can't move as it is people people move it they already move as one and just stay still how many stabber I mean I probably got stabbed on some way this weekend right

yeah don't think about it why do you live in this city I don't know can I live in your farm I'd like farm I would be on a farm how do I

can you relocate me into a rural situation if not shut your mouth I would never live in the dirty city you don't problem solved uh man but yeah i think i should get a little action little action tight taste a little tight action not tiny i mean like money right yeah well uh what else we got anything else we have the this woman got off her crimes um yeah woman got off charges

Karen Reid hit her boyfriend with a car Well she was accused of right That's the idea Yeah well yeah whether or not she did it Intentionally I guess Wait is this the case I was talking about Where the end of the cops

The ones who did it That was one of the theories about it Yeah Okay I don't I don't What is this? I don't know anything about this then I'm not sure either Okay I'm not sure I shouldn't have pulled this up

because it's actually that one everyone on Twitter was saying I don't know if it's true but on Twitter it was saying that a bunch of cops got together and like killed their friend whether it was a mistake or a fellow cop and they tried to pin on her that was definitely like

I think one of the possibilities that's the problem on Twitter I hear I hear that and it's like that's what happens as if that came out in trial but apparently it's only the one theoretical possibility right this is this is the problem social media I was ready to be like those dirty cops and maybe it was just you know an uber

driver so what happened her husband is dead though right that's not made up yeah he's definitely dead he was a cop yes okay well that's cool was she like a big national story um yeah it was in the news for a while oh good for her i mean not guilty of murder manslaughter and fleeing a deadly accident. Is anyone saying that she got away of murder? Yeah.

Oh, really? Quite a few people. Who's saying that? I mean, just, just folks. There's always gonna be. She's got an evil light in her eyes. There's always,

she seems fine. Everyone, look, what country? I do think that there are certain situations where like this probably shouldn't be your, people love to do this no matter what the circumstances of their trial was. Like, do a little hand gesture. Like, I'm free.

Well, whatever. If you didn't kill your boyfriend, you probably, you know, you should still look sad. that he's dead I think it was years ago I think if your boyfriend got killed and you were charged with it no I don't know I think if your husband maybe I don't just try to look sad for the cameras I don't think you're I think you've already you she's already been acquitted double jeopardy I know enough of that I am not look honestly you I think you're you're kind of ignoring how heinous it is to be charged with a crime he didn't do

and like you know Ben I think it was two trials oh really yeah no I I would I would give the little devil sign too. I mean, I would pretend I did it. I would say I did it. I got away with it. Bastards. You know, you're just filthy bastards.

If I did it too. Right. Caring Reid. Yeah, I'd pull an OJ immediately. I mean, I don't know. People got to stop trying to gumshoe. This rat culture we live in. Right.

Enough being rats. What are you getting out of this? It always, like, it always boils down to people just like overreating like a body language too. Oh, these body language experts were doing a double fig leaf, whatever the hell. These people go to hell. These body language experts, these,

these, what's the other ones? I read people. I bet you read my ass. Frick. I am so sick of these. It's just grift city left and right. At least war grifters are like, you know, getting something done.

these body language experts we should we should do we should do some with the body language experts we should I just start my own biolinguish channel I should just try to convince people that they're like you're just accusing of crimes you know I can I can tell about your

the way your legs are folded that your kids are you've done things to your kids horrible things probably very coy about it too what do you mean oh it's just I'm just reading your knees but what are you saying I did to your kids I mean something bad some of the worst things some of the worst some of the worst things I mean it would make for great the problem with us is

that we have too much I don't think of myself with someone with integrity but I wouldn't do what I'm describing at least not yet and so I mean whatever you want to call that if you don't want call that integrity not not accusing people of horrible sex crimes then uh whatever we want to call it I need to get rid of that so we can get that you know sweet sweet mula just saying yeah hey what's that we what's that with your ankles your ankles are all your ankles you know your ankles mean you're cheating your wife with your son terrible you shouldn't cheating your wife with your son but you didn't your ankles gave it away we can have a fake a book a shelf of fake books you've written

yeah behind you yeah the ankles are the windows to the hole um be home um i don't know what's what's a body thing um give me some kind of name the dimples of a killer yeah there you know the dimples of a killer uh sweet sweet caroline died because you're you're i don't know you you you're fig leaf they love doing the fig leaf thing because i is the whole thing What was it? Would they put it on paintings? The paint and the nude paintings of a fig leaf to cover it up. And so when you, when you put, like people, I guess they probably argue like, well,

you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're falling your legs, it means you're afraid your genitals being exposed, which means you might you bite genitals. Because everyone does what they, everyone protects what they do something like that. I don't know. I'm shots fired anonymous people. I can't remember their names. Anyway, uh, thanks much for doing again. you and uh yeah remember we have a subscribe to the show you know just hit the subscribe the notification bell um patreon dot comps slash ray comp you get extra episode every week five bucks a month

these things are all options also iran's an option i guess we'll see what happens next week have a great week Thank you.