Kump - Ep. 223 Sydney Sweeney's Sophie's Choice

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Ray is back from a pinkeye-related hospital stay and ready to unravel the controversy around Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad, which some are calling a eugenics dog whistle. He and Lucie dive deep into the marketing logic (or lack thereof), whether Jay Schottenstein is offering an olive branch to white nationalists, and the collapse of ad agency standards. Then it spirals: Gaza starvation denial, Quiznos rats vs Grimace, the ethics of full-contact haunted houses, a pitch for the Dinosaur Hotel chain, and Barbie Dream Beach in Gaza.

Welcome to Kump. Sorry the show is a couple of days late. I was in the hospital with pink eye for multiple nights. Observed. You think, oh, that's just a, you just need to make the eye drops for your pink eye. No, they want to, they want to watch you these doctors and examine you. Have you ever had pink eye, Lucy? I have, yeah.

But nobody's ever experimented on me the way you were experimented on. Nasty. They shove nasty things in me. rulers measuring tapes you know it's just a lot in life I've been dealt

They were just I feel like they were just using it as an excuse to violate you I don't It's a must be a TSA They like to get handsy with me I have the There's something about me

I have a magnetism Towards these creeps Who want to reserve their like You know I feel like you know When an invading force Comes into your small town and they want to kind of break down, you know, someone.

Take the strongest man and break him down. Yeah, I'm not trying to say I'm the strongest man, but I see, I have the kind of the weird yoke of authority, of a small town authority, and they want to... You do, you put forward a presence like you're not going to mess with me. I'm a corrupt small town mayor. Yeah. You know, I'm wired into the worst people, and I'm bowled off easily,

and they've come in, this invading force, this jackboot force comes, just trying to tamp down on all the illicit, you know, post-apocalyptic movement. Right. Regardless, I get, you know, my eyes, I don't know what to tell you. If I was Sidney Sweeney with her wonderful genes, perhaps I would have beautiful eyes that don't get, you know, whatever, chicken meat inside them. That's a good question. Do you think Sidney's ever had pink eye? I bet.

I don't know. No, you realize how genetic she is. Sidney Sweeney is the most genetic woman. Her jeans are like, are like opals, like milky opals. This is an interesting, what happened this week? Sidney Sweeney, this is, let's see if she brings up her pink eye in this commercial. Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even I color.

Why is she wearing like a, like a, uh, like a mechanic's like cover rolls what is this is this baggy i don't know her this baggy thing she's got to wearing like a boyfriend look like you know it's a little oversized like she's wearing her boyfriend mechanic's uh coveralls like don't wear that you're you're on your period don't wear that you're gonna bleed them they're gonna make fun to me when they see blood on my my crotch that's a good point though it's like the jeans themselves the clothes they picked for yeah they're not necessarily like the tightest or like the most revealing i haven't liked the way jeans looked on women for years. They wear these baggy mid-drift jeans. Look, I'm not here going, I'm not here

like the mayor going like, hey, with a measuring tape saying, where would I like? You know, that's just not, I'm not, but it doesn't, it's never, it's for a long time now. I've never understood this mid-waist jeans. You like your jeans wasted very low. Well, all you, really, you know, they used to call the whale tail, right? When you, when the tong was sick out, honestly, you were ridiculous-looking thongs. You knew it wasn't authentic. You know, all the time. We come up, like, six feet into the chest. Do you, genes aren't feminine unless you can see a little bit of the crack, a little bit of that outline, a little bit of Camelton?

No, you're right. You're right. You're right. Have them look like Ralphie Mae in a spaghetti-eaten contest. RIP. It's a clue. Sydney Sweeney has great jeans. And everyone's saying that she's...

All right, no, I know, breathy, breathy Hitler. I like her voice. It's comforting. No, look, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's generically sexy. You know, it's, it's sexy in a way where it's like, you know, if you had some, like, you know, cocktail waitress in Vegas trying to be hot and she wasn't doing that, you'd be like, you're not even trying, you know?

I got tip you, I guess, but, like, you know, I don't expect you to, like, take me back to my room, you know, but, you know, but how, it's just the kind of, what are we paying for here? and clearly I haven't paid and I'm being a nuisance and they're about to kick me out in this scenario just because I'm trying to steal chips from other players but regardless

I mean I don't she's no she's no Audrey Hepburn she's no Marilyn Monroe she doesn't have the depth of like an Audrey Hepburn or really like the girl or like the girlishness of a Marilyn Monroe

like she's kind of in the middle or the ability to eat pills frankly we all under understate that i think that's her best trait that that's kind of completely gone away that the sexy innocent thing has gone away well i mean it comes and goes it ebbs and flows depends on who you but yeah i mean it's right now the queen of the queen of sultry sidney sweeney the genetic sultress uh the bumblebee of hollywood uh is it's in charge and she ain't and she ain't playing cute she ain't no winnie cooper she's going to now here's the thing i don't um when did like i understand that like like it's just all right people are saying

that this is a a nod to eugenics i guess a nod to uh germany's history of eugenic experimentation and and racial codes right it's people are arguing that i mean it would be interesting if that was the intention of it but like but this is an old aren't they reviving an old campaign here i don't know i don't i'm not an american eagle head uh i don't i'm not up on older ad campaigns it's not macdonald i mean bah bah bah i'm loving it like that's catchy american eagle i can't name me a one ad campaign i know brook shields did something like this they said which you know here's the thing you call they're calling it's a dog Whistle. Is the entire field of genetics just the purview of the Nazis now?

Right. Like, is Jurassic Park a Nazi film? Is Jurassic Park trying for the will? I'm just trying to direct Jurassic Park? I mean, I understand that, like, you know, she's not saying, like, look, I got great genes. And you are going to be aborted because you have a hang nail or something. it's like you know you can be people are attractive or not now there's just subjectivity to it people are people are blonde or not or whatever the hell you want skinny girls or fat girls i don't

care you know right i don't care do it be a lot as long as there is all rural adults we're all fine but that being said some people look one way one will look another way that's not Nazis that's just you know i don't know i didn't know i didn't really it also means like they're saying She's saying my jeans are blue referring to her blue eyes because she can't say, like in an American Eagle ad, she can't say, and that's why I have big tits. Right. Yes, exactly. Well, that's a fair point.

Look, hey, I both, we both know you're trying to shove a hot talk between you can't do cantaloups here. But, uh, wink, wink my eyelashes. Like, you know, that's my impression, Cindy Swinney. That's how she sounds in my head. Right. My eyelashes. I have to be, I have to be catalog. Like, if you stupid God, talking, like, I don't know what happens.

It just seems like, look, are you, I mean, it's, I, we're going to. They're trying to do innuendo. Right. People are only seeing the literal message. Like, they're just, they're just, what, you're not saying? No, this is about you sticking in my head. This is about me getting plowed, all right? This thing about, this is about you, your wife finding, you know, like some, some AI.

what they call that stuff deep fakes of me and your cash and your internet cash that's where it's at I saw some response to this on LinkedIn yeah on LinkedIn

where what I was on LinkedIn and the new Twitter it was on LinkedIn and there was this woman going like I work in advertising and all the people who are saying that this doesn't mean anything

right like yeah I work in advertising they think through everything they think through every detail who does they don't let they don't leave anything up to chance this is not true at all and I was like I've worked for an ad agency those guys are high half the time yeah but like

but light like you know kamikaze like half their business like a year or two ago over that they didn't think through right yeah that's a good point I don't know these ad agents here's the thing about you got to know about ad agencies and this is not coming from I'm not in the business per se I've had a certain job

that's some were adjacent to it and I've talked to I don't know. I'm just sorry. I'm also not involved in the Kennedy administration, but I can talk about him getting clipped. So whatever. By the way, subscribe to the show, get notification bell, Patreon.com, slash rate comp. You get an extra episode every week for five bucks a month. That was quick.

So people appreciate that. That was speedy. Right? This is the new comp. So, you know, but here's thinking about the advertising and business. It's all it's changing now. But for a long time, it was just people with accounts. like expense not expensive accounts per se

I mean that too but like you had a certain amount of your budget you have a certain amount of money every year and had to get spent right and just like in every other thing organization where if you don't spend it you know it gets taken out of the next year's budget so I think for years like this idea that Coca-Cola was

was really tracking how much how effective the polar bear was the polar bear drinking Coca-Cola that gave us 18.2% more cocaine junkies they don't know

it's like a weird leap of faith I think is my point where you go look I mean they gotta know we're there well you can't just stop advertising right because you do eventually people born into it won't really know like they won't

see coke as that ubiquitous thing I guess right maybe but like this idea that like these ads are all very specific there's a lot of money behind it And I think occasionally people can, you know, these jobs get shuffled around in corporate America, right? Right. And some new VP comes in, the new VP of marketing, we're going to have a whole new thing.

And they think about it for a minute. And they had something that they put a lot of attention into it because the CEO is involved in this one or whatever. But half the time, it's just like now what we do. We got to spend this money. We got to let people know we're still around. The American Eagles. Whatever happened to the American Eagles. They wrap my ass.

Sydney Sweeney. Eagle, like Eagle's Nest. Ooh, yeah, you're finding a lot of information here. It's like, and like, but I'm saying, they don't think this through as much as you think. Sometimes, you know, the guy who did, what's some good ads? The guys who did the Quiznos, I always loved those Quiznos hamsters. Those were fun. The best ad of all time.

They were great. I mean, honestly, I mean, I was, people, the idea that you wouldn't eat, I, the idea that that's disgusting, but like, oh, grimace is appetizing. Oh, I want to eat where grimace is. Bring up Grimmis for a second. Just be me, people love to bring up the Quiznos rats singing. If you don't know, it's a very, everyone knows what I'm talking about. Quiznose was a delicious sandwich shop and they're almost gone.

And people love to blame the rats, the singing rats, because who wants to eat a sandwich is a rat shop? But this is Grimmis. This is one of the main guys for McDonald's. What was the intention behind this? Yeah, and what's the appeal of it visually? Like, what does this make you want? I mean, if you were eating eggplant par, maybe.

But they don't, they've never made an egg plant parm, I don't think. Why wouldn't they make an eggplant palm hero at McDonald's? It's called the Grimmis. Yeah, it's actually McDonald's is fantastically not associated with purple. Can you imagine them trying to do eggplant? I mean, I can't, I have an eggplant. I put in a deli container, you know, I slice up, I roasted nice, and six hours later, it's like soup. You can't, you can't transport eggplants like that.

Trust me. My point is, uh, they just don't, no one, no one knows nothing. And we all like to, you know, play, it's not. money money money money morning quarterback money morning quarterback whatever uh but sydney the sweens was you were you were pointing i mean here's the thing i i is she the greatest actress yes uh of all time of all time that being no but it's i saw somebody point out that it's like she she probably knows she's kind of like on the back end of what like she she's maybe approaching the back end of what her appeal is going to be it's interesting it's an interesting

interesting thought. I mean, you're probably right, because women don't have, usually have long shelf lives. She's young. She's beautiful. She's, she's maybe like, I actually might think she's a better actress than most people will give her credit for her. But like, you know, but she's not great realistically. Sure. I think it's a Merrill Streep. She's a better actor to Merrill Street. I think I think I think so too. I thought Sophie's choice was a real modeling. She might be better than Merrill Street. She might be. I think honestly, if you look at her in White Lotus when she's like, yeah, excuse me I can't see Merrill Street pulling that off can you imagine Merrill Street trying

to be like the hot girl at the pool and going excuse me it would just seem like insane but she's the greatest actors of all time and Sidney's when he's trash that's just the the Hollywood narrative they want to push on you they're trying to push you know who else it was a big one they'll live baby Adams she's the new it girl who else I think I would actually definitely are you Sidney Sweeney's better than Amy Adams. Well, Amy Adams is like 16 Oscars. Yeah.

And no one knows for what. You ask him for what? And it's like, I don't know. Was she in Kundoon? I don't know. I don't remember. What's like Kundoon? That's Scorsese, right?

I never saw a Kundoon. Which one is Kundoon? We get demonetized because of that I'm saying that name. It sounds crazy. What is it? It's like an Indian thing? What is it?

You never heard of, look it up. Look it up Connoon. You never look up. It's a Scorsese. film I think it's like about like the oh it's a what it's about the Dalai Lama it's like it's like it's like the last emperor but different and 1937 a two and a half boy from a simple family in Tibet was recognized as the 14th reincarnation of the Buddha of compassion yeah he's a Dalai Lama and that's why he's allowed to lick kids tongues or whatever he does the Dalai Lama I guess

I wonder that's covered in the film he's like lick my tongue that has a reference don't want everyone's mad but It's a reference to condoon. Whatever. At least he thought it was crazy. She's like, what did you think I was bringing up? I don't know. But American Eagle had a response to the controversy. You want to read this?

Sidney Sweeney has great jeans, is and always was about the genes. Her genes, her story. We'll continue to celebrate how everyone wears their A.E. genes with confidence their way. They couldn't just write American Eagle? I don't understand. It's like, you haven't taken up a lot of space here in this picture. Right. A lot of negative space.

You could maybe use one more line without an American Eagle. I'm sorry you're not as ubiquitous as, you know, like Mickey Deaves. Well, I saw someone pointing out, and look, patterns, you can find patterns if you look for them. Yeah. But like I saw someone pointing out that, you know, the capitalized H's H-H, H-H, 14 words underneath. I always forget what those are but like it's but it's some kind of gnaz

thing well I'm really disappointed you can't remember that I'm very disappointed my wife can't remember the 14 words this is going to look at a real cock now I look like a fool why you do reflects on me

I mean it's just no it's it possible that the CEO and the people behind the American Eagle the people who own American Eagle are trying to push a white nationalist eugenics agenda

that it's just trying to push the Nazis. I guess you have to ask yourself who owns American Eagle. Who does own American Eagle? Can we look at? Who does on it? Let's see. Jay

Chattinstein is a that sounds German, doesn't it? It does sound German? The executive chairman does it? does it I vote this up by the way he's not he's not I mean he's not only the CEO

he's also like the primary shareholder you know so I don't know if this man maybe but then we have to you always ask yourself who's like if this makes any sense

that Jay Schachtenstein is trying to push a Nazi agenda maybe he is people are allowed to push different you know Kanye West can be a lot of different people can do it. Maybe, maybe Jay Chattinstein is trying to push a little bit of a Nazi agenda as an olive branch.

You think he's like, look, we know, we know we've kind of hammered you people with like you can't have race hate and whatever for years. No race hate for you. And so, and this is like, this is our way of saying, you know what, we've all had a rough couple years. COVID and this earthquake Go crazy kids Go crazy have a little Have a little White supremacy in your coffee

It's just for I mean it's just people will cling to anything And then no one And like no one's gonna look and go hey Who are we bombing now Who are we starving to death Who are we starving to death? Where are these vials with Epstein?

where are they who jerry epstein stole children from me why did you have them well i understand it seems weird why do you feel comfortable stealing your children your massage children whatever they were it's all there oh look at this sunday-sweenies maybe maybe she's maybe she's maybe she's maybe is she quoting mind comps maybe City, Sweden, he's quoting Minkum and the, in the, in the, in the white lotus. Let's look into that. It's just all very, I just don't know. And the people that will, like, point out that she's a Republican, but, like, aren't the Republicans, like, don't they love Israel?

Yeah, they like, look, it's all, it's all, it's all, you know, it's a big key party now. It's a big wife swap. Yeah. And no one knows what's up. And it's also, like, you're allowed to be Republican. It's half the country You gotta stop You gotta, I don't believe

We support this Well, I mean, then you have a problem Understanding the progression of events In American current history You can't believe it You think we've been, it's been I'm sorry, I should have been normalized Whatever, I don't know

It is Like, you know The extent to which people are like Allowed to like support a guy who Yeah, is Trump a little autocratic Yeah That's what they like now Right

That's what the people like I don't like it What do you want me to do about it Like yell at Sydney Call Sydney Sweeney a white criminal You white criminal I mean Throw eggs at her

I mean what are we Are we supposed to have a tribunal for Sydney Sweeney Are we supposed to bring her to the Hague You know what you did You and J. Scott and Einstein, whatever he said his name, cooked up a plan here to bring back the Klan. Right? I mean, what are we getting at?

What is this selling? Is it because she's not 600 pounds? I know, like, when you see people on the Twitter, oh, it's because people are hot, oh, liberals hate hot people. There's hot liberals. There were a few years there, you know, where I don't know if, if you've, maybe you've felt seen by this but like you know where everybody

everyone on a cover of anything right was not looking great it was just no it was like me on the cover of the swimsuit issue it was very large we don't need that you know it's like he's like no one this idea like that you you haven't

honed that that you know the fat people aren't good at smiling first of all did that feel make you feel more like a centered no I felt rejected I should have been in it

yeah it made me think oh even this this woman's disgusting and she and she's actually getting what have I done you know what I mean that's a thing

what you want you don't want to show people here's the gimmick there's only so much good stuff to go around I know people have told you over a long time about the American dream

it's all it's all kind of not great it's all most Bull. Oh, I made money off crypto. Good for you, sir. You made, what, 10 grand over the course for a couple? Probably people made more. People go, I made tons of money. You're doing nothing. All right. Also, it's like the people who were made icons, the people who were put in the center under the spotlight and, you know, focused on as like kind of objects of beauty. They ate pills and they died. Right. Well, that too. Matthew Perry, he wasn't the hunk, I guess, but still,

but he's like, you know, he drank so much vodka, his, like, face flipped inside out. Like, this is not a good existence. And he slunk into a jacuzzi and died on, like, fentanyl or whatever. Or, like, you know, what was it? Catamine? You're like, oh, it's everything so great. Even celebrities. Like, I mean, you have, you just how rich you have to be to have something nice in this country. I mean, really nice, not your tomato garden, like, a real nice, like, piece of property it's i mean it's so what this idea is it does it it's better to have a class of royalty who cares about you i feel like i'm not saying like i'm not trying i'm not one of these like you know constitutional monarchists right like on jubilee i'm not trying to get that going

i'm just saying but this idea that like we you don't want the person who's eating themselves to death on purpose to feel like they got a shot at being you know uh the next sydney sweeney right It's only, all that's going to do is hurt them. It's true. You'll pick a couple Willie Wonka style, random fat kids. And, you know, that girl who's like the, who's that, like, the native, which is Indian, like, American, whatever, fat woman who's, like, the influencer for, like, young men. Did they try to push? Look up.

Oh, right. Yeah. Who's this woman? And it's like, yeah, they'll pick up a couple of those and they'll make them, like, you know, I guess, like, you know. What's your stupid name? just for just right liberal uh fat woman influencing men good images

there we is that her is it sir it might as well be it looks it looks enough like her if it's not her we you know but i think this is her right is this is this a woman whatever i don't know it could be point issue is no less you you know, no more or less than that woman. Okay. And then they'll pick a couple of them to go, you can be like an online presence.

Right, like they're some kind of ambassador or something, right? They're not going to let you in that tuck it. But I'm not going to let you in to like, you know, Palos Verdes. They're not going to give you the keys to, to, what's the other one? Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara's quite lovely, you know? They're not allowed there. You're allowed to, like,

like, you know, talk to, like, in cells online and like, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So this idea that, like, it's being democratized. It's just a way of, like, cruelly, or I don't care, it's cruel enough, you know. It's just, like, it's just, it's spoken mirrors. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, um, yeah, it's strange.

Like, you know, it's like, like, I remember you've got, you have good genes. Right. Being kind of like, I feel like it used to be a more. more common compliment that you would hear. I feel like it still is, yeah. You know, like you would hear every once in a while, like you maybe hear a person. It just has it going on. Right.

You just, oh, you got, you got great jeans. Right. Or even, like, it would be used to, like, if somebody's grandparents were just, like, lived, like, crazy long. Yeah. Oh, great jeans. It's just, like, yeah, it's just that something makes you have a certain nose and this person have a different one.

Right. It ain't the same as, like, now we're going to sterilize you. So you can't breathe. I mean, it's just like, you know, it's just crazy. And look, I mean, are they dog whistling? And for those dogs, dog whistling is what, the act of saying something. You know, we want to appeal to racists, but not, but wink, wink way. That's the gimmick, right?

It's like, I don't know if you've looked around. We're past dog whistles. We're well past dog whistles in this country. You can just be racist. You can just be. You go on Twitter and see whatever you want You can go on No one needs American Eagle to like

Put the cosplay as like Garing Herman Garing you know Mm-hmm Yeah No one's like oh I wish these jeans were more racist So I'd buy them I wish these genes were racially You know

A part of a set of laws A racial coification system Who's ever Do you think people at Walmart are trying to like you know these Levi's but who you know don't they support black people aren't black people ought to have Levi's I don't want them then it's true well think it through what is this appeal you really think American Eagle is going to be I mean it is just like the most like you know these these these jeans must be made in like a gulag and like in like you know American Eagle

was like Johnny America Uncle Sam Jeans So I don't know What do you What do you What do you think Sidney's

Next career move should be Should she just Should she like Maybe date Nick Quentes That would be something That would be crazy It would be a real treat She's he's

Feuding with Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes? Yeah, Tucker Carlson said that he was a little gay kid in his basement And Nick Fuentes is saying that his dad was in the CIA Mm-hmm So it's all right, didn't that turn out to be true? Yeah, no, Tucker's whole point was

I only found out last year. How did you know who's telling you? Oh, that's strange. Which is, yeah, if it's true, it would be strange. It's also like, all right, yeah, I mean, sure, you only knew the last year. I mean, I think he was hanging out with the Contras like Tucker.

Yeah. was like in the concerts like for whatever this is really interesting i don't need to the point the point is i don't think i thought that his dad ran a frozen uh family dinner fortune or something well he's part i know he's part of the swanson tv dinner fortune yeah dr carlson that being said i like i think when you build a frozen tv dinner fortune though you you know the first few years can be pretty intensive right you have to scale up, you know, find new investors, go public, make an IPO, new factories, you know, as you get bigger, it's more strict standards from the FDA and, you know, and marketing and all

that. But after a while, it kind of runs itself and you're free to, you know, overthrow governments in South America. It's just, it's like, it's kind of like you've done your bit and now you get to relax. It's all about building passive income streams. Exactly, right? You move from one to the next. So it's like, you know, you'll just keep, like, what do you think he's packing every

meatloaf into the tray you know it's like after a while it runs itself and then you get to you get to so disconsent in uh nicaragua um yeah that seems like i think that Tucker curls i guess Tucker Carlson kind of underestimated how much overlap there is you know like between tv yeah between him and Nick Fuentes oh i think like tv dinners and intelligence like if you knew how in bed with the massad the guys from kid cuisine are the kid cuisine bring up cake cuisine I don't think you remember what I'm talking about I kind of remember kid cuisine I think

your images this is a massage operation this is actually this is actually directly directly connected to the USA situation are they giving cake why don't they give can we ship some cake cuisine to Gaza I mean you don't have to be a kid to eat this crap I mean it's like you know what imagine how good a kid cuisine would look if you were starving

I mean imagine how little it would help you it looks pretty good right right now imagine how little it would help you I mean hopefully it would put some it was the calories alone would would help you live but I mean imagine that imagine you you you you you you get bombed for months you get a you know power and utilities are all shut off bombs bomb more bombs it's tax and the sewage probably situations I imagine and you have to leave your home because so much bombing and then you get you know you're you're at the camp whatever the place where they put you and then they're shooting at you when you try to eat and then and then you finally get your hands on piece of food and it's cake cuisine sauceolito patties or the so

saltilito sausage patties is that one of them I just remember I remember watching the pianist and there's this part of the pianist where he gets some bread and some jam

sure and Polanski the bastard you know bastard that he is yeah he did a good job of making like the jam

look really good you know like it's shiny it's nice shiny red deep jam only a PDF file can make jam with that good on camera

if you want if you want someone to sell your jam. You get a PDF file. No, go on. I'm going to say, I bet it probably looks like that.

Yeah. She's shining. But Kit Kuisine is probably shining. When you're when you're starving. Maybe or they might be going, are these batteries? What are we doing here?

This is some kind of, do I, this installation from, I don't have a house. Why are you giving me insulation? Oh, it's food. Oh, interesting. Okay.

Do I microwave this? I don't have one. You got one? Uh, so I just kind of put in the sun and bake, bake it that way. I guess so. Yeah, you would. I mean, honestly, if you're starving at death, you'll, and your teeth are knocked out. I don't know.

Yeah, I'm just assuming you would gum the nuggets from a kick cuisine. Mm-hmm. Why they make that motion? Why do they make that motion? You're doing it. I'm just saying you put it. I'm holding my mouth just chewing in my point. Whatever.

But, man, the starvation situation in Gaza. a, it's very, absolutely horrendous. It doesn't seem, uh, to be a great thing. No. Like one on the limb. You know, no, it's, it's, it's, what is, do we have a story on this? If it's, I mean, years ago, or at least, you know, a long time ago, Israel said that they were putting the Palestinians on a diet.

Right. This. What is, oh, they said, oh, actually, why, yeah, I can't remember that now, which is, we're, we're We don't want to starve and we want to put them on a diet. It's a bit cheeky for genocidal things. Right. You shouldn't be cheeky when you're doing genocide. If you want to call that genocide, that's fine.

I enjoy being a fake lawyer too. But we'll say genocide adjacent. Right. You know, cheeky is not the right tone. No. You should just be like, you know, like we expect there might be some food shortage. But they love, these really, they love to get. to throw around some flare

in the language. They do like to... They're a jazzy Broadway kind of people. Some people, right. Some people would argue that, you know, hey, like, you know, we're doing some nasty stuff here. Like, like Cheney, big Cheney, would be a nasty guy or Rumsfeld. Nasty men.

Men who did nasty things in the Middle East. But when they were described stuff, they were usually pretty kind of, you know, a matter of fact, you know, well, yeah, we do it and just pay some shortages of food, and we'll see what we can do about that. but there's logistical problems and more. You can go that route, or you can go, I don't put these on a diet.

Yeah. It just doesn't seem to garner empathy for your side. I don't know. Do we have the, so what's supposed to boy killed by Israel just after he collected aid? That seems, like, I don't, I'm sorry for my ignorance.

What are they in? Are they on the beach? The people? They have these. They've been pushed to the coast, right? They have these food distribution sites Where people gather in the day I've seen videos of those where people are lots of people

Overcrowded kind of gathering in the desert to like get some food I think they're on water Are they by the water? I think so I think they've been pushed out to the water Until the next phase But whatever but there's these camps where they where they Supposed be able to get food

You know pretty regularly like the IDF will just open fire into the crowd, no explanation. No, I guess Israel would argue that, look, we're allowing food in and you, you know, it's really your responsibility to act in a way that would, that couldn't even be misinterpreted by a soldier as threatening as you're getting your food, even if you're five years old, even if you're five. Right. I know you think, oh, five-year-olds, what could they do?

especially a starving five-year-old. You think a starving five-year-old couldn't be a threat? Well, you're not a trained soldier. So what do you know about that? How do you know how to identify threats? Yes. I mean, the only people who didn't serve are going to armchair quarterback about how they wouldn't be threatened by a five-year-old. How about you mind your privilege?

Check your privilege. All right? Five-year-olds can be very intimidating, even if they haven't eaten in three weeks. that's what they were you know I think are what I'm not saying you're looking at me like I'm a monster this is what's what's the matter um this is all coming from a whistleblower named Anthony Aguilar yes he was on American right he was he was okay he worked at a GS Gs what they call them a CSG one of those military contracting kind of things and he was he was he was next he was a military veteran and he retired and he was hired by this firm

as part of some operation and he witnessed this stuff. Now, I don't know why. Look, I get that like primary, if you're running like a Blackwater type thing, like a mercenary company.

I get that a lot of people you hire are going to be ex-military. But you probably get a few guys like me. Guys don't you think outside the box a little bit. Guys can go, hey, why don't we just, you know, why don't we sit up some nice, like, chocolate fountains?

you know give something for the kids I mean I'm just saying so why don't we somebody who's just saying how it's going to play and don't shoot them when they're eating that's a bad look don't shoot them while they're eating I feel like there's a problem no one brought this up because they're all from the same pool of people

they're all military guys I'm not saying military guys want that to happen but they just didn't think like it didn't occur to them to point out right because it's like you look anything can happen in battle right that's how military guys thing and most of them don't ever you know

But, you know, but, like, but I would say, hey, let's make it a hard rule. Don't shoot the kids while they're eating. And they could have avoided this stuff. They should just, they should just black, people, this wasn't Black War, but companies like that. I think Black War, you know, walk so that everyone else could run or whatever. They're still running. I don't have mercenaries work.

I'm not tapped into the mercenary community, unfortunately. That's my point. I should be. They should farm out mercenary, like, advice to me. They should be a council. like he should be a guy who's been in war maybe a guy in the industry and an advertising guy and a podcaster

like me right yeah the big ones what you want you want you want Rogan that's got to do with this he's busy I got plenty of time to advise on how not to shoot children while they're eating kid cuisine um um

but look at now look up the response there's a response that uh like where Israel says it was just sick that they were sick kids or something. As well seems to be for misusing, yeah. Okay.

So they're claiming that this is a, basically they're claiming that everyone who's supposedly sick has cystic fibrosis or something. Yeah, I mean, not eating for many days. Right. Sometimes we'll make one sick, but, um, right. Yeah. I love that scene.

when he's like starving that uh i gotta say this kid doesn't seem super well fed either way like yeah it's like it's like he's like he's holding a can i mean what's the argument that he has a can in his hand right he's fine he's got a can of chicken rice soup that lasts him three weeks what is the i just so you can see even in the picture like you could see like the outline of his like that i don't think that's caused by any disease like that's caused by losing a lot of ways this is the craziest thing i've ever heard in my life this is the craziest discussion i'm like i'm not i'm not not going to get into this discussion, but I'm not going to start, like, nitpicking the jaw lines of children, whether they're starving to death or have cystic fibrosis.

I mean, it just seems, this just seems like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a thankless, uh, effort. Right. Like a thankless job. This is, this is, this is no point. I mean, this can't be your move. If you, if, if kids are getting killed, at least, at least pretend like you don't like it. Don't just say, hey, it's fine. I guess this is a fibrosis. This is from the Jerusalem post, by the way. The headline is, that seems unbiased. The headline is Israel slams media for misrepresenting Gaza and Child's condition as starvation.

And then underneath it says, the child's older brother is shown standing by looking distressed, but relatively healthy. He's relatively healthy. None of this looks relatively healthy to me, I have to say. He looks distressed, at the very least. I've never held a can of food and made that face before. I'm not sure what's going on. on this picture, but I've never held like an Italian wedding soup can from Progresso

and made anguish in my face. I might not be thrilled. I might rather be eating, you know, chicken parm hero. Right. But I've never just wailed. You know, we're in the United States, obviously, but like I feel like I've seen some people, you know, who say they have cystic fibrosis who are a little fluffy, you know? Sure. No, I don't think... I don't think it automatically

makes you emaciated. I don't think, I don't think Jennifer Aniston was like, how I get some cystic fibrosis so I can look good from my bikini body it's just not the move you know you just gotta it's it's all ridiculous it's a ridiculous way

they got to stop just stop oh god gosh it's just enough it's like yo you really they really want to build this hotel I guess this is this Gaza is it gonna be shaped like a guitar with one of the guitar hotel

maybe I'll be honestly if it looks you love that guitar hotel It's just, it's fascinating. You build a whole guitar. We get a picture of that going. It's fascinating. It built a whole hotel based on guitar.

I'm not sure what the gimmick is supposed to be. Do you go in there? I wonder if you walk in, is there a bunch of guitar? Do you, is like, are there a bunch of, like, lines on the floor? And as you walk, it makes the notes. That would be cool. This is the guitar hotel. Everyone can see it here, which I believe is run by the hard rock, but I'm not sure.

Yeah, hard rock, right? They built a whole hotel. It's very cool. I would think, you know, if Israel decided to, like, hey, people are mad at us. We wanted to just kind of mow through these people and make Gaza into a resort town. But now they're mad. And we're afraid they're not going to want to come because of what we did to make it.

Right. We're afraid that the horrific past will haunt them. Right. We're afraid that we've tainted our brand. I think what they might want to, you know, maybe I'm not trying to help them. the last thing I want to do is help you know to make money of this but it is kind of

I think about the worst case scenario it would be awful if they built like a whole band of a drum hotel and a bass guitar hotel and a regular guitar you know what I mean and a singer you know imagine that

that's the future of hotel that would be phenomenal shaped like things a dinosaur hotel and I worry that that's going to happen oh I'd love to stay in a hotel room in the dinosaur's little hand. Oh, who wouldn't? Who wouldn't want to stay in the Bronosaurus hotel?

There's a teradactal hotel. It's right between two twin towers, you know? It's actually like done to look at the Twin Towers. It's very tasteless. But I'm saying, this is the kind of thing. They could turn us around and I don't want, I hope we stay vigilant and don't let them build a dinosaur hotel and just whitewash what's happening right now. Yeah, that would be horrific. Yeah.

You know, because once all of that amazing stuff is built it's easy to forget yeah no you would just could you would look it's like the colossus of roads remember the colossus of roads oh yeah the guy yeah he's spreading his legs he's just spread eagle standing up he's like sydney up there you know in roads in roads Greece remember and uh i mean maybe it's been destroyed for thousands of years or whatever but you know and it's like people no one knows why that was built that might have been that might have also been some kind of you know hate crime but we don't know we just call it the colossus of roads that's what I worry about and I think that's kind of what you go why were it it's like these things are inexplicable these these the actions you know well they didn't start it okay okay uh sure but that being said it's still more like are you guys just not checking the news and seeing how it's playing is my point right at certain point's not about who's right or wrong I mean it is but there's also another level we go even if you think you're right like we look they don't seem to believe us

we're saying what we are rationale they're not buying it right maybe we like and but no but then not to care look abu gray was happening right we took the prison which was infamously run by saddam's people sam hussein it was a bad place to go political dissidents and whatever Kurds probably and all the people saddam didn't like people who made fun of his mustache and we conquered iraq right we take the hotel I don't know the Abu Ghra prison Right And then for a while

We ran it And you know We had American soldiers torturing people And there was heinous things Unspeakable things You know And then when we did it

When people found out We didn't go Right But I mean But I mean But But you know We thought they might be terror

We said This is bad We got fire Linden We get a scapego Right Oh yeah Oh yeah

Yeah Yeah I'm just saying like it's just it's just the barreling forward of it all just seems a little like you know but what are you going to do what am i just don't build a dinosaur hotel is all i'm saying don't you dare don't you dare think you dare build that dinosaur hotel i hope someone else does i'd love to see a dinosaur hotel and in a in a moral country yeah the country in the kind of like sweden or switzerland where they did they they don't ask they yeah they move money they don't ask where it's from is that a sin the swiss how many build a dinosaur hotel

australia would actually be nice you have sydney the sydney opera house and you stay the dinosaur hotel oh yeah yeah you see lobohm god that would be a classy vacation what classy vacation does they have a mad max experience down there in australia i'd love to go do that the love to pretend to be a marauder or even just be a victim imagine like you know we'll we'll do a big stage show and we'll like tie you you pay it like 10 grand I don't know I don't get that kind of money to spend don't get me wrong but it wouldn't because if I'm describing it can't be everyone

but you know but it would they tie you up to a pole as these like performers these marauding you know post apocalyptic bikers I mean I'm not saying they have said you know that would be awesome just it's all happening around you

and you're like tied up you're like those people you're tied to a car while someone's some stunt driver is driving into the desert I've always liked that I Yeah, I always like the idea of haunted houses where they can, they can pick you up and touch you. I've never actually, I've called being kidnapped. I've never really done that before, but they exist.

Do they? Yeah. A full, a full contact on the, haunted mansion? Skin to skin. It's called that. No. Oh, okay. But conceptually, it's skin to skin.

Who, who, how much do they cost? I mean, the liability alone must be crazy. I think it is a pretty bad liability. They just usually just grab you and shake you a little bit. I think that in some of these things They can like they can pick you up They can put you on a table or something I've seen ones where there's this guy who has a thing

He has kids It was on the internet like years ago Yeah he's I think I know who you're talking about He's really extreme Yeah and he's like actually tortures people Yeah that guy I mean the new I like know what that police chiefs do in that town McKinney Manor or something

Oh you know oh you do what you do you do you do Do you follow your on Instagram Well what I was researching, like, you know, full contact, you know. I want a GFE haunted house. Full contact haunted houses. And, like, the most extreme haunted house in America came up. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that guy, I mean, you could argue that, like, you know. This guy, that guy tortures. I don't think it's fair. I don't think the guys who run regular haunted houses or, like, appreciate that. It's not fair if you're actually, like, a serial killer. Like, I'm not, I'm not, like, I'm just running something. for the kids like do i have to actually like like you know i'm like the guy wasn't caught but

clearly he's done this before right you know clearly he's like wain grow from heat you don't know what this is do you um but that is the future i think because they already have kind of like air bs where you can stay at the barbie the barbie mansion or something right what is so what is that does that mean that like what makes it the barbie mansion is it literally just look like the one that you could have played with as a kid. Mm-hmm. Okay. So it's not like,

it's not that it has like a plasticy kind of finish or anything. I don't, I don't think so. But like, but like, but are you hot when you stay there or you have to be like, or can you just be like a 500-pound woman? I'm bobby.

What's the problem here? And you're just taking big, big, like those park size, one of those plus-sized park hoppers to go to Disney World. And he was a fucking fat woman eating a burrito. Oh, look at this. This is like a,

it's pink. I love how it's pink. Gave me some Chimichangos. I love being a girl. Um, I don't know. Barbie, they should do more with the Barbie brand. They should be Barbie like,

that's what that's going to be God. It's going to be a whole, like, Barbie Dream Beach. Oh, that's going to be called Barbie Dream Beach. Honestly, that would be interesting. If God, they just rebrand Gaza as a Barbie theme park. Mm-hmm. It's Barbie. one looks Barbie. Remember the Ken song? I'm Ken. Look at me. I'm Ken. What is it? Ryan Gosling? I'm just Ken. I didn't. That kid's not starving. He's eating kid cuisine. I'm not really mean. That's that's what they're trying to do. So, you know, it's no one of cystic fibrosis is allowed to Barbie theme park. That's just very, that's just their one rule. You can't have cystic fibrosis and be here. How common is cystic fibrosis?

Or I think it said in the article cerebral palsy But like Maybe both I'm pretty sure someone's But either way How many how many how many How many? That doesn't seem like a kid with cerebral palsy

I gotta say Like that I think he doesn't seem to be like Struggling to walk as much as he seems to be Severely underweighed Yeah I mean I'm not a doctor with a specialization And neurological disorders And degenerative diseases But I mean I imagine

it's probably more likely he just hasn't enough food and he's going his cat is he scream what is he screaming with that can wow one can the fuck am I supposed to do with one can like it's like the parted

I'm trying to treat my cerebral policy with this you think risotto soup cures my cysticicic my process um it's a strange time to be

uh But yeah, when we got, it was this skeletal, a skeletal dying child. No, that's, yeah, no, that's, that's, that's, that's, um, that's, um, Cushin's disease. It's also, it's also weird to just be like, no, like, a lot of kids are starving, but not this one. Right. They're, they're using AI, like, what else would be happening? Right. How mean, it's, it's like, it's not that big a place.

You keep bombing it. Yeah. Where are these people, like, you do these, I don't know the numbers. I'm not trusting anybody. So I was reading an article where, like, this woman was actually going through, like, kind of, like, how the math is adding it. Like, the amount of food going in compared to the amount of people who are there. Yeah. And it's like they're allowing basically, like, a quarter of what would be required.

Right. To actually, like, keep people alive, the number of people in there alive. So it's like, yeah. Yeah, Occam's Razor, it seems like they're just starving. Occam's Razor says that the dinosaur hotel is really the best option. um that's that's really the outcomes razor at all it's just that you know you build a bunch of dinosaurs you build uh well what are they go the T-racks for sure the rap the problem of the raptor is like a motel because they're small they're not one of the big dinosaurs but you all like these little motels

uh where you know where you where you're going to meet someone from craigslist maybe yeah or you uh you have a little you know you have a few uh party favors you know right birthday kicks uh uh We should have like raptors Glass raptors Even the you know even even even even the sleazy motels or dinosaurs This is a kind of I mean I do kind of have his vision now And I'm not gonna let Israel take it from me I'm not gonna give it to them

But I do kind of want to develop this I've never felt this way in my life until this moment Where I felt like you know I got like Steve win that guy who makes those hotels in Vegas Like I didn't grow up like I want to make a build or Trump I guess I want to rub and make a big building like I don't understand that motivation it's I mean We need it, right? Yeah. Well, you need someone to be like, we need to waste a lot of resources, buildings, massive buildings that no one lives in.

That needs to happen. Yeah. But it's never in my dream to be the guy. But I'm now, for this moment, I'm actually kind of realizing I do kind of want to make, I need to find investors, start some kind of syndicate, right? Like some kind of, and get this dinosaur hotel chain. not it's a what or the dinosaur hotel family of oh it's a dinosaur hotel world really yeah yeah yeah i think you're right i think it has to be there's got you know you got to have little trolley cars

i don't even like dinosaurs that much i just think it'd be really cool to have a terrarium inside a big t-rex you know the lobby is just big big bushy lettuce you would think other kinds of tropical plants but that's all that's just you go in the lobby i guess there's just a big waterfall and lettuce plants growing I'm like lettuce. Lettis. I kind of get what you're going for like tree stars like for the land before time.

No, I was like and you can grab one with your mouth. That would have been the right thing to say. I said, let's have a bunch of lettuce in the lobby. I appreciate you giving me cover here. But I should have said tree stars or or palm trees even would have made more sense

on a bunch of cabbage. let's have cabbage growing in the dinosaur oh man so it's just oh there's an earthquake did you feel the earthquake last night I didn't they said there was an earthquake at 10 p.m.

I you know we're a couple floors up but I am not in the 77th floor or anything it's like the third floor of a building I didn't feel nothing I think it's I think it's fake news what could be the motive you think there was a you think an underground bomb went off maybe i bet there's some kind of underground morlock type city and they were bomb them so sometimes an earthquake just feels like a little you know you just get a little massage from it i'm sure yeah i mean uh is that is that

trump's defense but i was an earthquake and then she said a massage no earthquakes were happening and then Jeffrey Epstein stole these women or children, whatever for me. It's all very, it is going to, it seems to have lost steam, though. Yeah, the Epstein thing. I mean, look, I don't know. I guess these things happen, you know, and one oracle comes out and another and you feel like, well, you know, it's kind of like 9-11. Like, the first thing happens in another day, you know, like, oh, so they're going to keep, like,

dripping these out. Right. They got to pin this guy. And then it just stops because there's only a couple, only had a couple of scoops, I guess. I mean, there's still much more to know. I think, you know, but maybe they overestimate how much people will, you know, I don't know.

Care or engaged. I think I'm going to solve it? I wish you would. Look, I was thinking about solving it, but then I had this idea for a hotel that, you know, where you could be a bronnosaurus or stick. Maybe that can be part of it. As part of it, the dinosaur, if you come to the dinosaur world in Gaza, you can see

there'll be a little printed out client list in the lobby. A printed out client. Oh, okay. But you have to say, you have to pay for a room. You have to pay for a dinosaur. I love this idea. I love this idea. I don't understand the in between.

So I want to help, you know, get this list out in the public. I'm going to build this hotel instead, but I'll compromise and steal the list, make it up. What are we doing? I'm just going to make it on the list. Here's who I think did it. The guy who made cake cuisine. It's like a replica.

It's like what this list might look like. So there's no names on. It's just kind of like we zoom in. It's just blurred little like squirrels. Yeah, I think that would help put people at these. there's never for you know don't forget we don't know but never forget but only if you come and you stay at the dinosaur museum slash Jeffrey Epstein Museum

uh slash hotel okay so I worry about this I worry about this branding so now you know it's the dual dinosaur hotel slash Jeffrey Epstein Museum it's like it's a little sloppy it is I understand these themes don't necessarily connect Yeah, I, maybe I'm starting to get it now. Maybe I get why the people who run the many businesses that control America, those don't can't be bothered. Hey, we're trying to make, we're trying to make Coca-Cola here.

What are we giving shit? You know, we're trying to sell you, you know, Ford pickup trucks. We don't fucking care what this guy did. You know, I have to go, why isn't, why isn't every Ford if 150 have an inscription with the list on it? It doesn't seem feasible. Also, we don't know who's in it. All right, it makes sense. That's where I'm at.

You've opened my eyes. You maybe realize what hypocrite I am, a business hypocrite. Why don't you, you're doing your do nothing podcaster? Maybe the dinosaur can be moved. Like, you know. the legs if you like you pay extra to be in the legs and one and the legs kind of is that possible or maybe whole things are the whole thing can be workers in the legs maybe the whole thing can be on like some kind of hydraulic thing and this thing will clearly lead to like mass

people no longer being alive probably because if anything goes wrong it'll just you know it's a nightmare yeah you're building quite a titanic here I don't know any large building's ever been built on rails that can move around. But the first one will be the, the Tyrannosaurus the premier, not all of them do. Yeah, my sleazy raptor motel won't do this, but the premier T-Rex

villa will move around like a T-Rae, you know, it'll basically be on rails, I'll move a couple of, you know, 10 feet, 20 feet. It's about the idea of it, like eating gold leaf on an ice cream scoop. This seems like the kind of thing that only Saudi money can build. Yeah.

You're not wrong. The Saudi What you call it? The Saudi nest egg The Saudi nest egg might need to be tapped for this That's it's a it can be a force for good Hey Saudi we you guys didn't like what was going on guys well how about this Well no I'm not doing Gaza are you saying I got doing Riyadh

I want to do it like in like somewhere like a revitalized like Detroit Hmm or North Carolina I don't know what happened to that I'm just saying I feel like you know you don't think New Carolina deserves a dinosaur hotel I think they deserve a renaissance yeah

they yeah dinosaur hotel could be just what they need I'm gonna make this happen and by that I mean I'll never talk about it again well we solved everything thanks for tuning in

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