Kump - Ep. 226 Kump On A List

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

Ray and Lucy update the “Sensei John” situation which has escalated with slander. Ray spirals about eviction, plots basement-dungeon diplomacy, schizophrenia simulators.👉 Patreon: patreon.com/r...aykump

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Kump, and please stop calling him Sensei John. All right, Sensei John. People keep messaging me saying, oh, the updates on Sensei John. They're commenting on YouTube. They're commenting on Twitter. X.com. What's up with Sensei John? There is no Sensei John.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Sesea John is a character that John Higland made up. This is a man who you met in our basement. Not Highlander. Higland. Who somehow convinced you into letting him coach you. Look, I let him, I think it will coach me. I mean, like, I'm going to be down in the gym anyway. I'm down there.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I'm getting sweat. I'm getting pump. Why, you know, if a guy wants to, you know, give me some pointers, you know, I'll, I'll let them. I'll pay him a little money if he wants to spot me and just make, I'm not good with organizing stuff. That's regardless. It doesn't matter, all right? If you watch last week, you know, this John Higlin guy, this guy paid to be, like, quote, quote, trainer, I guess. Got, got, you know, after one update, got really mad and called me, started calling me names and fat and slob or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Wait, wait, wait, you paid this man? Well, I mean, I paid, I paid him, like, a $200 deposit. And then, like, it was supposed to be $50 a week after that. So, he's got, he beat me on the deposits, I guess, but I'm not going to keep paying him. He's insisting that I keep paying him. He's insisting that like, but he's not no power to enforce that. I didn't sign a contract.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You're not goals, Jim. But, yeah, but he's not always playing hardball. He's gone behind my back, this John Hinkle and God, because he wanted me to call him Sensei. I never agreed to call him Sensei, all right? That's something he wants. That's something he, I'm not playing his game,
Starting point is 00:01:54 but he's playing a dirty game where he's gone to the landlord now, and now I'm on a list. The landlord has said that, like, I'm on some kind of probationary list. I'm not supposed to use a gym. They, we might get evicted.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I don't think that's going to happen. But I don't even know what power they have here. I don't understand. He's now trying to ruin our lives. You know, he's literally trying to destroy everything I've built. He's, he's telling them that I'm using a barbecue
Starting point is 00:02:19 where I'm not supposed to use it on my patio. I just throw my barbecue out. You know, I mean, I just took it in. I didn't really throw it. it out before they know I told them I thought they don't listen to this
Starting point is 00:02:31 but you know it's like you know but he's trying to tell him that you know you're recording a podcast here who cares they know they come they've come and service our air conditioner they see what do you think what do you think they think we're doing but he doesn't know he's trying
Starting point is 00:02:48 to play dirty he's trying to destroy my livelihood and I'm not going to take it lying down look I think we need to start preparing for what goes down if this guy comes to our door. No, because I'm not afraid of John Higland. I'm not afraid of him.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I don't care. Like, people think just because you have, like, toned arms, I'm afraid of you. I'll rag doll, John Higland. I'll throw him in the sewer. All right? I'll drag him. I'll drag him like when those movies were a guy's dragging a woman by the hair. And everyone feels really bad because it's a woman, but he's a man.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Does he have long hair? He has hair. He has a nice head of hair. I wouldn't call it a ponytail He doesn't go down to his ass I'll put his hair in his Well no We'll see
Starting point is 00:03:37 But he'll be he'll be I'll shave him I'll shave him like the rat he is And I'll leave him in the sewer metaphorically That's a good move that's very humiliating Yeah No I'll show look
Starting point is 00:03:50 You don't understand what I'll do with John Higland I'll bite his fingers I'll spit in his eyes I'll just hold him down and just spit into his eye over and over until he gets a pink eye You know, you think your mouth's sterile Everyone thinks your own spit is sterile Well, first of all, even if it was,
Starting point is 00:04:08 I had a girl telling me that once that spit is sterile And I can wash my contacts with my spit You know, and she was like some kind of biology major or something I don't know, I told people like subsequently told people that Because I started using that trick when my contacts I got drug and then have eyedrops I take it out and put in my mouth for a second You let your contact
Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh right We were in married You can't take no takebacks All right This is like And people look at me like I was scum And I realized this girl
Starting point is 00:04:37 I mean she was a pretty girl She wasn't a weird She didn't seem like that weird But apparently she was a big weird And she gave me bad information This is years ago All right It's in my past
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm not going to apologize Because at one point It's not the same contacts But regardless Even if that's true It's my spit going in his eye of course like you you know you take a young lady as credentials seriously and you just and you end up and you end up getting a spit all over your eye contact it's a wonder i'm not everyone who's called these guys incels and all these lonely men he's in cells i mean i don't agree with andrew tate's methods i don't agree with the like the prescription to like you know wear bikini shorts or wherever he does and show everyone's you know his junk and like talk about like on bikinis i don't think that's manly but i agree these men are lonely for a reason. Because women just tell them
Starting point is 00:05:27 dispirious things that hurt them. That hurt them later in life. That embarrass them. That make them sick. I didn't get sick. Yeah. I didn't get sick at all. I'm a healthy. Do I get pink eye like once a year?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Who doesn't? Well, okay. Well, I'm glad that you have a plan for John Hickland. I mean, you know. Well, look, let them come. Let them come at me. Let John Hengland show his face and see what happens come to my door. You know, he wants to play games for his typewriter,
Starting point is 00:06:01 sending letters to my landlord. How about I'll send a letter to the landlord saying that, you know, I see you dragging kids into the basement. Oh, wow. He writes, he writes hand-typed. I don't know. I mean, I assume, I mean... Letters. I know he has a typewriter. I don't know if he sent them a typewritten letter. He's talked about
Starting point is 00:06:17 his stupid IBM's electric or whatever he has. I thought he was like, he's like, what kind of shock is he? Like, all he talked about, he barely taught me anything. I gave his guy $200 and most of what he talked about was how he wants to write a novel and he bought an IBM Selectric. I'm not even sure if it's a good
Starting point is 00:06:33 typewriter or not. I know it was a prevalent one, but if you're like a typewriter in there, is that a good one to get? I don't know. You can comment in the comments, please. No, seriously, I don't know. He's like, he acted like I was something I should be impressed that he bought some like IBM
Starting point is 00:06:49 Electric. I'm like, oh, what did you go buy the, you know, a thrift store? No, there's a guy online who's services them and sells them, you know, custom refurb. I'm like, all right. And it's like, it was $400 on it. Hmm. Which, is that a good price?
Starting point is 00:07:02 He said it works perfectly. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. He hasn't read. I don't even know what he was. I can't say. I couldn't, I couldn't write a novel without this. Well, he's like, you know, what I do?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Write a novel and the same thing I, you know, did I make meal plans on? Hmm. I'm kind of, like, well, he didn't even make me a meal plan. I'm doing my own meal plans. This guy thinks. he can play dirty he doesn't know how dirty I don't I feel I'm a little handicapped because I have you around
Starting point is 00:07:30 so it's a nice thing because I can't just throw my life away but I'll throw my life away and even with you around if it gets if it gets annoying enough I'll throw my life I'll go to prison I mean I never been to prison but I mean I feel like I would you'd wait for me this is why it's good to have a protector
Starting point is 00:07:49 in the house I'm on a list a protector you know a speech personality because you know a lot of guys they might they might get stalkers like this right they might drag stalkers into into their wife's life right but they don't even know how to handle oh yeah no i'll stalk him yeah you want you stalk me i'll stalk you back i'll just i'll just have a mirror i'll get one of those like they make them yet those 360 cameras or you have to turn them still i'll get cameras i'll get i'll get all sorts of shit
Starting point is 00:08:25 They used to have the spy glasses for kids. It was the whole thing. You remember with the mirrors in the glasses? By the way, by the way, before we get into nitty-gritty, I have to plug this. I have to plug it. Just go.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'm streaming every day now. All right? I have to get back at John Higland. So I'm streaming every day. I'll discuss, I'll give you updates. If you want more updates after this. But just, you know, I know I was saying kick for a while,
Starting point is 00:08:54 but then I realized, 12 people follow me on kick, and I have over 1,000 people follow me on Twitch. So I might try to simulcast, but for now, I've been doing Twitch. I'm just saying, but you want to you, and look, even if you don't want to watch the stream, just know there'll be clips in the YouTube feed.
Starting point is 00:09:10 New clips, and then there won't be clips from the show, this show. There'll be clips from this. I'm not putting random things of me playing Mario, Luigi's Castle or whatever. Look, oh, look, we got to find Luigi. Oh, I'm just sitting there. and why am I watching this clip?
Starting point is 00:09:26 It would be good stuff. Whatever. If you like this show, you'll like that. So click on a note. Don't be afraid to click on them when they show up in your feed. Also, and while you're there, you can subscribe to the channel.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You like all the videos that you watch. It's imperative. Don't let John Higland win. Don't call them Sensey John. We have a Patreon. Patreon.com slash rate comp. Extra episode every week.
Starting point is 00:09:53 On that. So that's all the plugs. All right. If you listen to Sense A John, I'll plug you. Why, I just called him Sensei John, didn't I? Maybe Sensei John was worth the, was worth it. Don't call him Sense John. Sorry, maybe John Hickland is worth the, worth the price after all.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah. Because you did say one of the things he would scream at you. Yeah. As you were doing, you know, weighted sit-ups with him on leaning on your neck or whatever. Yeah, well, he'd be kind of pressing. Yeah, whatever. It wasn't good. It was, it was like, it was like, it was like holding onto my neck.
Starting point is 00:10:24 But while he was injuring you in this way. He was doing squats, I believe it was what it was. That was right. And he was holding on, he was holding onto my neck. And while he was doing this, but, you know, it doesn't seem like the safest way to build strength. But, like, as he was doing, he would scream at you about creating more content. Yeah, but he, well, he, no, he was mostly scream about his content and how, like, and he's stupid how he had to, like, buy ribbons or toner. I forget what he was, he said he got inkled over his hands at one point.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And he was just, and he's like, what was this goddamn ink? going, you know, I have to go on a date later. And I'm like, well, I don't know. I mean, he has to be dates this week. I don't know what he's doing. I think he might be, like, he might be something kind of prostitute. I'm not trying to, like, give him a compliment. Like, oh, wow, well, what a guy, where the guy to be prostit, you know, the desirable man or anything.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I mean, he has nice hair. And he's totally, he's fit. He's not my, I don't think he's particularly strong. I start I'm curling like a 20-pound weight. What is that? He's like, oh, I'm just doing some conditioning. What? A woman?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Were you a woman with that weight? I'm sorry, you're going to let me, you know, you're going to be silent for that. No, I mean, I've got, I'm shit on women now. All right. I curl basically 20 pounds. Right, well, you're a woman. Yeah. No, I'm saying you're right.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. Right. So don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. You get very sensitive when we're talking about Sensey John. It's not Sensey John. It's John Higland. Stop playing. into his game. Now, here's what you got to understand. He's, I mean, I try to tell these
Starting point is 00:12:00 people. You call this man into my life. Well, I didn't know. I mean, you tell me, I'm usually never talk to people in the building. I don't, I despise the people in the building. They throw weird parties in the basement and on the roof and they're all like weird euro trash. And they talk about how like, you know, there was some guy in the roof while you were playing guitar. Wasn't he telling you like, oh, my dad's in finance, but I respect people who blue cattle. And I was like, I mean, You should throw them off the roof These people are animals You know, it's always
Starting point is 00:12:29 Everyone who comes in, I'm in the hotel I'm in the elevator and some guys speak in French and then a bunch of people In a bunch of people in the basement It's like a rave then you hear Miley Cyrus And it's like I don't know I'm going to get into the other nitty-gritty People, you know, just just old men
Starting point is 00:12:46 smoking in my basement Old men Yeah Were they doing that in there? They're like tunnels in our basement There's tunnels in our basement. There's tunnels in our basement. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Well, to be fair, it's not a full tunnel. It's more like... It's not like the ones you saw on the news a couple years ago, but they're like weird nooks and crannies. You go in... There's nooks. There's hidden nooks and crannies. There's like a parking garage. It's not, but it's not a garage for us to use.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We don't have a car, but like we did. We couldn't use... But it's there for like the landlords they get, the service guys. But then in between that and like, and there's like a room that's supposed to be like a wreck room. But it's just got like a broken foosball table and like a... dirty couch and like a refrigerator and then a wine fridge that's empty and there's always drilling going on
Starting point is 00:13:30 beyond the door you know there's always some kind of construction going on well they're making cages cages for humans but one time I snuck in there right you stuck in there and I saw a little and I saw a little dungeon in between the the parking garage thing and the rec room I guess you'd call it and the sauna that we like I've never used because I'm going to just feel
Starting point is 00:13:50 like I'm going to get like hepatitis in there yeah but like there's In between that, there's some kind of weird tunnel. Yeah. And they throw like bar mitzvahs and sweet 16s there and like, and raves. It's either a dungeon or they're trying to construct some kind of elevator. We have elevators. But we have an elevator.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You've either a grain elevator? Yeah. Maybe they're trying to drill for water. I don't think you can do that. I mean, I know Manhattan's like a bomb stone bedrock or something. I believe they exist. And I think there's some kind of end of day as like bomb shelter thing. I would love to have a bomb shelter.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You know, he doesn't need a bomb shelter? John Higland. I mean, he's guy. He, he told him I was, I threatened him.
Starting point is 00:14:37 He told him that I smelled. I don't smell. One thing I don't do is smell. I smell great. You always make sure that you smell good. I am such a, I do nothing else in my life. Well,
Starting point is 00:14:49 but I smell not. I smell all right. I don't smell nice all the time. You're, very high you're more than average hygienic for a man i think yeah i don't want people i don't want people to know where i am or hear me or smell me right i you know yeah i'm not the smallest target i'll grant you that so i make myself invisible to the nose but you know you're gonna be invisible to the hose john higland because i'm you know your face will be left marked up not yeah again this is
Starting point is 00:15:20 you're going to play you're going to play this for the building this is all satire i can just say that i can't get in trouble for this anything i say here it's just it's just comedic satire it's a comedy it's a comedy show so nothing i say it doesn't matter if i say i'll take your mother and i'll take her on a date and i'll leave her in the sub the worst subway station in new york and leave her to her own devices oh wow i'll find his mom i'll seduce her i'll take her on a date you know, leave her in the slumiest, scummiest subway station and all of New York City. Can't do nothing to me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Because, you know, it doesn't matter. You play this for the judge. He was like, well, it's a colony podcast. The satire. Satire. He's got a comedic license. All right. I'm protected by the First Amendment, John Higlin.
Starting point is 00:16:08 What protects you? I ain't the Second Amendment. I know that much. I know you're afraid of guns. John Higlin's afraid of guns? You don't tell me, but I think he is. I try talking to him about guns. He was like, he changed his subject.
Starting point is 00:16:19 It was stupid. typewriter. You know, he just told me how it was something to do it has the order, how the order correct feature, or not the order correct, but the correction feature. Like you think it's wide out, but it's not white out. It's some kind of other thing. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:16:33 What kind of novel does he want to write or what kind of book does it? I don't even, I mean, I'm not sure. Well, it was something to do with like the grass is like the, it's like, it's some book called the grass, the grass shirt. the grass is greener or something like the grass is greener in my in my in my in my bed or something I don't remember it was something like that the grass something about the grass being greener yeah which is trite is with very trite it was I mean what am I going to say that oh the yeah I guess I mean it could I guess it could be like whatever maybe sometimes immigrant parents
Starting point is 00:17:12 my parents immigrated from freaking you know from frigginia I guess I guess I guess it It could be a, you know, self-help. It could be anything. It could be a sleazy romance novel. It could be some book about how he's a certain predilections, I assume. I assume things about John Higlin and I can't say out loud because they'll broach that comedic satire. You know, there's a certain, you can't accuse people of being certain things or doing certain
Starting point is 00:17:39 things, but I have much of spout. I'm going to get to the bottom of him. He's going to be, trust me, all right? try I know people you don't think I know people I may you I may be an embarrassment if you take me to certain places I may not fit in in every country club I may not be wired into the new york social scene the way my wife would like you know I may not know the right things to call things at restaurants I don't know you know what wine to drink with what's food or you know or how to dress properly but I don't think you're
Starting point is 00:18:17 selling yourself a little short. But I know people. I know some people who know people. And they'll tell me things about you. You start of the war. You can't win, John England. Son of a bitch. You get me evicted?
Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't even want to live here. I'm overpaying and rent as it is. I got tricked into paying more than rent than I should. So you do me a favor, get me evicted. I'll go, I'll just squibing. squat. I'll just squat with your parents. How about that? I'll trick your parents or anyone else you love into into, yeah, go ahead. Do you think we could, do you think we could negotiate access to the dungeon? Look, I mean, maybe, maybe I'll, because if we get John Hickland in there,
Starting point is 00:19:03 he's done. Yeah, all right, here's maybe, I don't think the building cares. I think the building's trying to cover their ass. They don't, I don't think, I don't think he's got them wired around his thumb. That's right. It's all about liability. Yeah, it's all my liability, so I might make a deal with them. I'm trying to, like, you know, like, fine, I won't use the gym. I'll still use it. Yeah. I got to get my pump on, all right?
Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm just, nothing's changing that. I'm going to lift weights. I'm going to eat chicken breast that I suvied. I'm going to cram that protein, and you ain't going to stop me. All right? Shut your mouth. If you try, you know, it's like Jesus said, if you try to, if you live by the sword, I'll just, I'll cut your face.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I'm quick like that you live by a sword you'll die by you know you'll die tonight that was that's that's in the bible i don't think i don't think john england's a religious man you live by the sword you die by my fist you look you know it's it's it's you try to play a grown man's game you can get beat like a boy you try to shove me into a corner I'll know my thumbs off and then what what we gonna do with those you know like then then all of a sudden my hand gets fit in certain places and I can just do all the damage these how about you write these in a book how about John Higlin writes this how he was he bit off more than he could chew you think I'm I'm messing around here
Starting point is 00:20:46 You're supposed to support me I do I do I you know I'm gonna do I'm gonna do dangerous things this guy anyway I feel like we've gotten to a
Starting point is 00:21:02 bit of a look I don't want to be homeless all right oh Ray comes on vulnerable enough why is it come come you should be more vulnerable so people will like you more But fine, I'm afraid of being homeless
Starting point is 00:21:18 And John Higlin's put me on edge Is that the thing you fear most, you think? Homelessness? The only thing I have, the only thing separate right? I mean, I think about it. Me, I go home. If it wasn't for that, like, people just think I'm a vagrant. You know, people just think, like, who is this, like, home?
Starting point is 00:21:40 I mean, the only reason, I walk into a building. And people, and, like, people probably look and go, I'm about to kick him out and I never come out for a while I guess he lives there that's my saving grace rang it this world would
Starting point is 00:21:55 would gna you up I refuse to jingle change in 2025 I'm not going to jingle change the people why would I carry cash I mean is this like when you go to a wedding and make sure you bring some singles to go
Starting point is 00:22:10 you know the tip the bartender to me it's open bar right you still got you want to tip these people you don't have to you just put you know you just pretend i got you before i don't remember yeah maybe they do some smaller wedding than you thought no shit they got remember i didn't tip them screwed but usually you can get away with that i don't because i'm not like a cheapscape but i'm like i'm going to do that for homeless people i'm going to get a bunch of singles out and change every morning i don't pay for things with cash you're going to have to
Starting point is 00:22:46 tattoo a QR code on you if you're ever homeless that's not a bad yeah just give me scott i i'll go to wall street i'll just i'll just get me sock tips i'll get in their face like i don't need money just give me a tip you know what what should i buy inside inside inside inside me right inside trader that's be the name of this podcast but like trader like trader like t r like traitor like treason inside traitor get it yeah
Starting point is 00:23:16 I just had that idea I might change your name this podcast to inside traitor that's a separate point you got nothing to say of that yes no
Starting point is 00:23:28 you don't like it I mean I you know it's it's an idea for a name you think people are going to think you think being known as a traitor is a bad thing
Starting point is 00:23:37 I think it's a fine thing I might assume that it's about that it's a podcast asked about inside trading right but i'm a traitor people know how traitor i don't want i don't want people who listen to me who don't know how to spell um i might i might i might learn to regret those words is it about traders is about no i'm the traitor yeah okay inside who are you betraying i don't know it's a conceptual thing you know what is your you know your mom's house are they in your mom's
Starting point is 00:24:03 house that's a huge podcast the jo rogan experience what it's it's two guys talking not an experience it was a Jimmy Hendricks you know an album he's right he's eluding to you know I mean that's true you're thinking too literally inside traitor you know who am I betraying
Starting point is 00:24:21 Joe Rogan all right and everyone and you know how about that you would start a war with him John Hagelin and Joe Rogge and we're taking both on the same time is that what you're asking I'll take on all of them
Starting point is 00:24:35 I am so sick of this I am so sick of being afraid of being homeless I didn't know that this was such a deeply held fear for you for so long people aren't going to be like oh look you've never been homeless right no but you can be homeless people will be like oh you're like
Starting point is 00:24:56 I can see that like if you had been homeless before and it's like oh I never want to end up like that again people are going to let me I don't know a lot of people who but you're a smart guy like I feel like you'd always be able to find a job take care of yourself very abrasive sometimes You know, I burn a lot of bridges. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't bother making new friends. I stopped talking my old friends.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I, I don't, I don't live in the past. I don't live like a child who's just older. I'm a man, all right? I threw away my childish things. So I don't have connections like that. But don't give, where choices John Hagelon, the people I know won't let me sleep in their couch, but don't tell me what you are and what you do at night. and with who?
Starting point is 00:25:39 How old they are if you get my drift. Well, maybe one thing that we should do you're poking the tape. Maybe one thing we should do to combat the sphere is we should just
Starting point is 00:25:58 maybe build a structure that we can live in if we ever became homeless. What do you mean? Like a teepee? Yeah. like American Indians. They just build out a really nice tent or something.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Whereas like if we ever be, if we were ever homeless. Can I, can I emigrate to the tribal nations of American Indians? Is that what it's called? Can you, can you immigrate there? Look,
Starting point is 00:26:21 there's, they're a sovereign nation, right? Are they, like, here's what I don't get. Here's what I don't understand. All right. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I don't understand. We just let everyone, and I'm not trying to get political here. I'm not trying to get, oh, Oh, like immigration does this, immigration does that. Whatever, come with your open masses and your wounds, whatever. That being said, if everyone can come here, why can't I immigrate to the sovereign nation of American Indians?
Starting point is 00:26:53 They're all sovereign nations, right? The Cherokees and the wars are all packed, right? All these Indian people are, you know, their tribes, right? They're sovereign tribes. Why can't, why won't they let me immigrate? it's a good question like could you join their tribe if you i would assume you had to you'd have to like pass tests of character and stuff what what so i i haven't done enough i'll show them my podcast like you know it's like no one else you know none of you people
Starting point is 00:27:21 can do the come podcast line it's like when you go to germany they don't want they want know you're not taking away jobs from people right most countries you go go like we have to prove you have a job it can't be done by a native or whatever right by by a natural born person or whatever but you know like I think you can fudge it like yeah they can have Pod Indians can have a podcast where they have Americans they're going to call them Cherokees
Starting point is 00:27:45 can have podcasts but not this podcast where it's like it's it's kind of like a snowflake every podcast is unique Apparently there are some lineage and blood quantum requirements Oh oh oh oh so they get to pick whose blood gets where
Starting point is 00:28:02 This sounds like eugenics this sounds like the Nazis the minimum blood quantum requirements vary ranging from as high as one half to as low as one 30 seconds so I have to
Starting point is 00:28:18 prove I have to give them my blood to show them like most countries want to know like I had a great grandfather who was Irish right and supposedly he was in the IRA and he was hung by the British
Starting point is 00:28:33 and then people said well that's not they probably did that if he was like so you know like a you know that's usually more for criminals not like IRA I don't know that's true I was always told that he was in the IRA and he was hung by the British regardless I tried to see if I get and I'm not leaving America but why not have a EU passport so I can go Gallivan like a European I go I can go in a beta and I can go right I can rave I can hang out with the chemical brothers and the and then daft punk I think they broke up. Why not have any of you passports, by point?
Starting point is 00:29:08 But they want to know, like, well, you had, you know, if you had a grandfather who was Irish. But they're not testing my blood, is my point. Right, they're just testing your relatives. Yeah. They want these, the American Indians want, or Native Americans, only this thing, you know, I don't know. I think they want to be called tribes, right?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Mm-hmm. What tribe are we talking about here? Well, yeah, this is like a range of tribes they're talking about. Wait, so we're not, we're not Indians, we're tribes, but they all have the same rules. I don't understand. Well, it's, something's fishy here. Why are they allowed to do this? Everyone's, everyone's so mad about, you know, like, oh, you, whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:47 The point is, maybe I can go live with them. Oh, there is also honorary membership. Maybe you could get that. How do I get that? I'm telling them an Eagle Scout. I don't know. I don't know if it's, being an Eagle Scout. Scout. I don't know if that's going to...
Starting point is 00:30:02 Eagle is probably a sacred animal to them. So they'll kind of be like, all right, well, we'll tell us more about this. It's like, well, I had to do a bunch of merit badges and I had to build like a, I'd do like a project. I was talking about the Vile of Life program. And I'd be like, well, all right. So like, you know, and if you don't remember the vial of life of my Eagle Scout project, where I went, I went around to, I got these vials.
Starting point is 00:30:23 The idea was you put, you get a packet. It comes to a vial. And inside the vial goes this piece of paper where you put your medical information and then you put it in the fridge and then we give you a sticker that goes in the door and then the sticker would say vial of life inside and I went around these old people and gave them these packets it's free of charge and that was my program and but I never coordinated with the fire department I was supposed to coordinate with the fire department so they knew what this is about that other people I didn't invent it so maybe there might be you know
Starting point is 00:30:57 maybe these people is fine I think they got I mean look the fire department guy was there I didn't cost anyone any any problems because the fire department was there and my court of honor and the guy said to my mom or something we didn't hear about this but you just did
Starting point is 00:31:13 all right so like don't come to me 30 years later like why you should have talked to you got your notice my point is we tell him about that leave out the town my coordinator with the far we just leave that far out
Starting point is 00:31:27 look maybe you should just start to live your life don't wrap me out to these indians maybe you should just start living your life in a way where you can be like kind of undeniably socially native american what is that what does that look like it means it means all your friends have to be native americans i don't know any of americans how i meet them are the american bars look why why would you want an honorary membership if you're not willing to put in any of the so i can live i'm not homeless This is not because I love these people so much I mean they're fine
Starting point is 00:32:01 I have a problem with them I'm just trying to like I'm trying to have things in place in case John Higlin succeeds I mean you're just trying to be a squatter then you're just trying to be a squatter They got plenty of land I'll learn I'll get better at woodworking and we'll build stuff together
Starting point is 00:32:19 we'll build on the land We'll build a store I'll build a store on reservation for them A nice general store. I'll sell them electronics, maybe since. See, if you're this industrious, I just don't see why you can't. You realize the permits I have to get to do that in the non-reservation setting?
Starting point is 00:32:37 The U.S. government has no rights there. They can't stop you. If they agree, if I get, if I get, if I start whispering in the chief's ear, like, hey, we're going to make this like, yeah, you'll get a cut. And like, no one can say boo. You know, the IRS, the FBI, they can't get there. You know, so, I mean, I'm not. not doing anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'm just saying, I get, I get it, there's reasons we have restrictions in America. You can't just make a store that, you know, sells poison. Well, look, the requirement for honorary membership is basically you have to, you have to make a significant contribution. How much I got to pay these people? To a Native American tribe. How much do they want? If I have to invest a couple of grand. I don't know if it has to be money.
Starting point is 00:33:18 If I invest a couple. Maybe you can defend them against white raiders or something. I'm not a lawyer. I mean, I'm almost a paralegal. Maybe I could help them out in that way. you know because I'll tell them I'll just tell them I'm a lawyer it won't matter
Starting point is 00:33:34 whatever happened on the tribe stays on the reservation stays there so like the fact I'll just I can be the lawyer on like whatever courts they have there whatever reservation court there is I am I saying oh like as a white man
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm smart no it's not about that I'm particularly well suited to be a lawyer I just don't know any of the I haven't got to school for it If it wasn't if they still had that thing Where you could take the bar I could probably pass the bar You know what I studied
Starting point is 00:34:06 I studied for the tour guy test I got I got and I got I got put They got the star next to my name That says you're like you got a really high score I didn't know nothing about this tour guide stuff I didn't know who built Stanford that was in white architectural firms And what's the Woolworth building
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't know any of that shit Like I took the time I ended up becoming it because, yeah, I got another job. But, you know, the bar, you know, I'll probably spend more than a couple days studying for the bar. I'll take a few weeks. You know?
Starting point is 00:34:37 I'm sorry if you're a lawyer and you feel like that's insulting to you. I'm sorry it wasted your money at law school. But whatever, it's, you know, but don't feel bad because I'm not allowed to take the bar here. So jokes are on me, except on the reservation, I could. I'm confident I could be a good lawyer for them whatever you think it's a joke you think it's all a joke
Starting point is 00:35:03 until we're homeless anyway we'll move on for now we're fine for now I'll let you know remember you know come watch the streams and what's the podcast I'll give you a little updates and you'll be time to find that
Starting point is 00:35:20 for homeless or not but look life is is your right to plan for this because life is full of vicissitudes what does that mean you know vicissitudes you know changes in fortune was like a bug like a mite like somehow like bug mite that goes in your like the homeless people have and he died of vicissitude you want me you actually you would you would you'd laugh at me if i was dying to vicissitudes on the streets i would have eaten on the trash like a rat I'd be horrified.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I would use it. I mean, I, like, I'm not going to live in a dumpster. I know you don't think I'll just live in a dumpster. I have pride. I'll travel. Everyone travels to California's. They can show a bunch of junk in their veins and hang out in the street. I'll go to the woods.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'll be. To the great redwood forest. Where is that? Is that an Oregon? I don't know. Maybe I'll go upstate. But yeah, maybe the great river forest, whatever. I'm just saying I'm an Eagle Scout.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I can form. porridge for berries I can I can hurt animals we're not hurt them hunt them I got the animals either what I mean you know I mean how would that help you no I mean is in the problem I'm sorry I in the process of hunting them might I hurt them a little bit yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I not every kill is a clean kill you know mr. Moses Joshua fucking Jesus You know, Jesus Christ, I'm on trial here with my wife. We're not going to hurt them for no reason. We need the meat.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Look, the people- We need the meat. Do you agree with that at least? We need, yeah, we need the meet. All right. On the same page. I'm doing this for nothing. So what's, yeah, what was it?
Starting point is 00:37:17 But look, the people who become homeless. Yeah. I don't think you really have to worry. Because the people who come homeless are, like, people who are dealing with like you know mental health conditions usually right you know addiction or or something that they can't help bipolar schizophrenia right you know that kind of thing they ran out a bad role you know what you could probably benefit from was that watching a little of a schizophrenia simulator all right well this is a good transition so you you found
Starting point is 00:37:45 you found just in case you ever do get this condition because it can cost you a lot right it can it can land you on the street it can cost you your job it was a good transit no i could turn you would do an absolute mess give lucy credit this is actually a good transition this is actually very uh you had you because we were going to talk about this but you yeah you i didn't i don't i mean it feels it feels like weirdly like like like dj slick like you know speaking of uh you being a homeless vagrant uh why don't we transition to this i feel it a little uh i don't know like just exploitive but i guess it's fine I pour my heart out.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I be vulnerable. But you're right. You're right. It is a good transition. All right. Let's talk about it. So you found these, you found these things off.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I've been watching the Schizophrenia simulators. Schizophrenia simulator. This shows you what it's like. This is what it's like to be in the mind of a schizophrenic. This is, this is, this is, this is, this is, who made this by the way? Um, this guy with no credentials whatsoever. So the guy, the guy we're looking at here. But, but it, there's, there's definitely a.
Starting point is 00:38:51 theme. Like, I've watched a few of these now. Yeah. And they all kind of represent the schizophrenia ghosts in the same way. Interesting. Okay, so, well, don't, don't, you know, let's see. Play this for people. What you're about to see is a schizophrenia simulator created by someone who has
Starting point is 00:39:11 schizophrenia on what it feels like to have these hallucinations. Check it out. So it's like water. It's like the urge around you is kind of like shabby of demons so if you have people who aren't looking but basically it's these these these squiggly lines they look like they're made of water yeah uh almost but almost like like these bubbles with like dark kind of lines or outlines and they're going now here's the thing i've always been uh who's get the terrible affliction
Starting point is 00:39:47 and i've always what you know what you you know and i think a lot you know you know and i think a lot you know it's a hard thing because if your mind's telling you things are real what you know how do you it's hard thing I've always thought it's very hard to like I'm just sympathetic I guess yeah like it's like how would you really know but you why if this is what they're seeing
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm kind of a little less sympathetic I gotta be honest of you you don't think this would scare you look it might scare me but I wouldn't think it was real imagine you're looking at the woods and this motherfucker just comes at you Yeah, I'd be like, yo, there's a squiggly water guy.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm seeing a squiggly water. I've never heard a schizophrenic say I have a squiggly water guy after me. You know, a water-based creature. Some kind of jellyfish. And they look like big jellyfish with the face of a man. Right. I'm just saying, you thought this was real? I mean, you thought this is the guy telling you to shoot, you know, the politician?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Right. You killed your trial because of this guy told you to? It sounds like you wanted to believe it in this case. Now, I don't think that's true. I don't trust the guy making this. I don't want to slander all the people who have schizophrenia. I don't know if they would co-sign this. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:00 It doesn't seem like you should believe it that. Or at the very least you should go, look, I got something to tell you, it's going to sound crazy but there's a water-based creed, like a jellyfish with a man's face telling me to do this. I've never heard him say that. So I don't know. I'm going to call and people are going to go,
Starting point is 00:41:18 well, you're not a schizophrenia expert. How can you, you're not a doctor or a psychiatrist? Right. This is my point. I can be a lawyer. If this guy can just make this up, why can I just be a lawyer? Well, like, you would think that like, okay, you see this for a little while when you're a kid or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Or whenever it starts and you're 30s or, like, and it creeps you out for a while. But you would think that once somebody told you, oh, you have a schizophrenia, you know, these things are apparitions. Right. That you would be able to tell the difference after that. Right. Yeah. These people, like, they don't say, hey, I'm haunted. I would so freak you out. Of course it would freak you out to have a jellyfish with a man's face telling you to kill people. Of course it would freak you out.
Starting point is 00:42:02 But the thing you should not do is panic and leave that part out. Are they leaving that part out because I think that would make them look crazy? Well, maybe it would, but you haven't helped your case. They always have them sounding crazier than they would otherwise. And everyone would say you think about this for a second if how many people have schizophrenia in America dozens hundreds thousands I don't think it's a lot probably it's probably a decent amount of people probably a decent amount of people oh wow 2.8 million a lot people yeah a lot of people if they were all saying jellyfish
Starting point is 00:42:38 are after me yeah all right we we go we got the bomb is jelly are they seeing jellyfish that are there right is there are there are there invisible creatures that we can not only certain people can see through their you know with because our cones and rods aren't usually aligned to see these jellyfish people we've lost a lot of time if that was the case we've lost a lot of time right I'm not going to blame I want a victim blame but you know why isn't there a cure because you didn't mention the jellyfish men but it's like even the non-schizophrenic people even the people like replying to these like simulation videos yeah they're like oh man this is like demon possession
Starting point is 00:43:15 right you know it's like they're like even they're like these are these are real demons so this is this is a good shot you were freezed on you know it's creepy as hell but they've never explained it this way
Starting point is 00:43:28 they've always said they've always made it seem like it was actually a person like what is that like is that is that your brain trying to trying to like is it your brain trying to simulate something that you don't understand as a human face or something
Starting point is 00:43:41 probably something like does John Higlin's behind not him but like people like him it's just it's just like it's probably just like uh it's probably somewhere that produces these effects right if that i don't buy it though was my point you you're accepting the premise it's like this is like this is like do you remember there's that trend on ticot where all those like young teen girls were saying like oh i was i died in the holocaust oh right yeah I don't believe what I see on TikTok. I don't believe it's going, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:17 and people go, like, oh, there's probably some guy in some podcasts like ours out there with some gimmick out there. If you listen to their podcast, they're going to get this going. We're going to get this schizophrenic simulator out there and we're going to pretend it's real. And you guys respond for us, right?
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah. It's just, you know, it's kudos. We should steal that idea. We should make our own simulator. What do you think? If you actually started seeing this, that one hearing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:44 If every day you start seeing the little goblins like this and they were like John Hickland's coming after you he's almost here
Starting point is 00:44:51 he's coming yeah but how would you how would you deal with them what would your response be I don't go fuck themselves I'm not afraid of ghosts the man in the ghost
Starting point is 00:45:02 actually does something I'll be afraid of it you know right people go oh yeah the incredible why is Andrew Tate talk about that
Starting point is 00:45:10 all these guys you're telling men how to be men and none of them ever talk about like and shut the fuck up about ghosts enough with the ghosts no one care ghosts can't do anything they're dead
Starting point is 00:45:21 but it's like blood coming out of my eyes and ass I'm not going to be afraid of ghosts oh they made oh they opened the window and closed it oh oh look at you look at you that big shot big intimidating man
Starting point is 00:45:38 do nothing how about you how about you know If my fucking cock falls awful, I'm taking a piss, I'll be afraid of ghosts. How about that? How about that? How about I take a big piss? Like, the cop falls into the toilet forever.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Then it's like, oh shit, does a ghost do it? And I would assume it's a ghost. What if the ghost tricked you into thinking your cock had fallen off just for a second? What if it wasn't? It told me, like, you'd hit your cock fell on the toilet. What? What if it wasn't permanent, but like for five minutes, you really? thought your cock fell off.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Would you be afraid of the ghost then? It would just, so, so, so, so, so it's, so to be clear, it's a jellyfish face. Yeah. And goes, hey, look, and look down your cox in the toilet and look down, my cat, and then it's there. Yeah. Like, oh, my God. How did you do this?
Starting point is 00:46:29 How did you do? Oh, Moro. This is, this is a problem. This is, this, this, this, this, you've gone too far now. I also, you've escalated way too quickly. I mean, you could have done a lot. now, now we're, oh, wow. Why? Can you undo this? It was a trick, actually. Yeah, I would be like, oh, so you just do stuff in my mind. What do I care then?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah, it's like, it's like I'd be, I'd be upset until they told me it was fake. Okay. Yeah, look, I mean, I believe what I can see. Oh, so you don't believe in Christ, shut up. Christ loves me, all right? Yeah. He thinks you're scum, not you. I see him in pictures. What? I see him in pictures.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You see Christ in pictures? What do you mean? Yeah, the pictures where he's given everybody bread and fish. I mean the paintings? Yeah. The icons. Some guy did that. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:32 My point is, no, if I find out, you know, so what was the implication? Are you trying to connect to this? schizophrenia is what you're trying to say like oh what if they made you think this and I act on it and then and then like I go after John Higland I throw his typewriter in the ocean because like you wouldn't just be like oh my cocks in the toilet whatever no I'm called a doctor I'd be diving in the toilet trying to grab your first of all am I bleeding in this in this in this delusion maybe maybe there's blood I would grab look I'm on Eagle Scout so I would grab it immediately I would grab some I Look, first of all, and I don't want to the aside, for a number of years while we were in this apart, we've been in this apartment for a while, the fridge slash freezer was very faulty. And they finally replaced it recently. But it was always like very unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And I wasn't able to freeze food reliably. Now that we have a new freezer, it's a little smaller, small than I'd like. I free stuff. I mean, I, I'm living a whole new life. I just buy value packs of chicken breasts. and I freeze them in the vacuum seal and then it gets pop right in a suede and I don't know nothing goes bad
Starting point is 00:48:46 I'm not wasting food anymore I got tons of frozen vegetables because frozen vegetables are great if you know how I cook them probably so what would I do? I'd either grab a frozen thing of chicken breasts or frozen thing of chicken thighs or a frozen bag of spinach
Starting point is 00:48:59 and I'd wrap my severed cock in there first then I would you know if I'm really gushing blood I would grab I have I make these turkey burgers on the cast iron skillet and I got one of those smasher things these burger smashers
Starting point is 00:49:14 and actually you think that's a gimmick it's not actually there's a piece of cast iron it's a circular piece of cast iron and it really lets you squeeze down hard on the pan I would use that I would get that really hot in the oven and I would burn my crotch the corduroise the wound
Starting point is 00:49:28 and then I would get to the hospital and say hey look you got some of the scar tissue out and then so my cockback on I don't know how this happened I think I'm being haunted by this it looks like ghost but the ghost it knows they can actually do stuff
Starting point is 00:49:42 not some normal ghost right those pussy ghosts or just goes boo and opens the window this one this one means business but I mean whatever I mean like who goes to cut their cock over and goes to the hospital
Starting point is 00:49:53 and says can you put this back on I mean I have to really be like a munch housing attention seeker for that to be fake you know right um in the middle of it
Starting point is 00:50:05 so I don't know at what stage does the ghost reveal real that was all a joke while I'm burning myself I mean like look it would suck if that happened while you were burning yourself yeah that's when you just burn my cock yeah exactly well
Starting point is 00:50:20 all right look that's that's fine but that's not happening is it we don't have I would explain this to the cops or the doctors or the FBI I mean we had I would say look I burn my god because it tricked me to think of my car that's not what they say
Starting point is 00:50:36 they always say like he told me to do this No, I didn't believe it for one second I never fell for it I mean I I believe what I saw But I don't do what things tell me to do But if I see my I'm cordorizing the wound You can't it's always one thing to say I saw blood gushing out of my crotch
Starting point is 00:50:56 So I burned it Yeah It's another thing to say It's a whole other thing to say Oh this dog told me to shoot people That's a whole different thing Yeah It's true
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah, I mean, I think a good rule of thumb is If it seems like your cock just mysteriously Separated and fell into the toilet Right You got it, I feel like it's probably a good therapy Or conditioning for people with schizophrenia like that Yeah To kind of like go through like it goes through the go through your five senses
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah Do you feel like your cox can cut off? Acid, sugar, sweet, sour Does it taste? Like do you taste? Oh, oh, senses, I'm thinking of the five tastes Can you taste the iron and the blood from when your cock fell off? Wait, wait, wait, I was confused, but now I'm-
Starting point is 00:51:43 I feel like I'm creating it. This doesn't exist yet. It's like a good therapy for schizophrenics. So you want people to taste their drink, like reach down into their crotch, which they think is bleeding. Yeah. And then see if they can taste the iron. Yeah. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Do you make, right, you check, right. Oh, that's your cock. Can you, like, if it smells, does it smell like piss? Yeah. Because you were pissing, right? She smelled like piss. Right. In the middle of pissing, your cock, right?
Starting point is 00:52:06 fell off. Did it smell like piss? And don't tell me a piss has no sense. I'm not saying my piss reeks, but if I get up close to it, it'll smell like piss. Don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot and say,
Starting point is 00:52:19 oh, what are you going to smelly piss? Everyone's piss smells like piss if you get close enough. Unless you drink a gallon of water every 10 minutes. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I don't piss green, but I mean, it's not pure white, like, you know, like water coming on my dick. Whatever. I don't know, I mean...
Starting point is 00:52:37 You know, here, can you hear yourself? Are you screaming? Well, I would be screaming. You actually would be screaming. You probably would be screaming. Yeah, I mean, you need to... You need to be to edit this book for you. This is a weird medical book you're writing.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Because some of these ideas, I mean, some of it makes sense. Some of it's like, you know, are you scared? Well, I mean, yes. I'm scared of being homeless. So interesting. It's very interesting. there's there's also there's also this other one where like it's weird because like sometimes the voices inside people's heads yeah it seems like they sound sometimes they sound
Starting point is 00:53:17 kind of like uh just annoying like innocuous but annoying right like they're just almost like repeating your thoughts yeah yeah look at the water yeah yeah nonsense yeah but um sometimes they're actually but sometimes the voices are are scary sometimes they're mean to you yeah yeah right Yeah, that's true so. Nobody cares. Nobody wants you. No one could. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:53:47 They're talking about you. Even he can't. I'm not seeing squiggle faces. No, yeah, this is just, I guess this is just pure auditory. This makes much more sense. Yeah. There's people that share your brain that are telling you nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, it happens all the time. at what point this voice the voice tells him that he stinks oh well you stink he's watching away because you stink you smell why he's kind of bother you're stupid let's fix
Starting point is 00:54:16 I might have schizophrenia I mean it's not quite he doesn't usually have different voices but I mean yeah I'm always like I definitely relate to this more yeah than the visuals no I think everyone has this yeah I think everyone's got a little bit of this
Starting point is 00:54:30 right we just kind of know this who's this guy who's this schemer this version of it is just like it's just on blast right yeah but there's no like there's no guy with an ice cream cone's face that like like you know transparent ice these guys look like transparent poop emojis right
Starting point is 00:54:45 I mean I always say that's what they call it right they'll call it the shit emoji they call it the cacophilia emoji they call it the fucking poop emoji yeah I'll call the big nasty shit I don't care I'm not trying to get monetized the big nah they look like a transparent version of the big nasty shit
Starting point is 00:55:02 emoji. Whatever. No one censor me. I'll censor you. Do you think part of being, maybe part of having this condition is just that like you're kind of, you're already kind of sensitive.
Starting point is 00:55:18 So like the voices would bother you more. Or like the visuals would. Yeah, look, I mean, look, I would probably, I probably am less likely to be colon quotes because I would just be like, you know, whatever. gives of shit.
Starting point is 00:55:33 He'll just be nasty bag. Yeah. Like, oh, you smell. I smell fine. I don't feel great. I'm not wearing Chanel. You know, Chanel number two. I know number five is a big one.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Those are the numbers, right? Are your other numbers or Chanel's or then it's number five? Why is number five is no other numbers? Are there no other numbers? I don't know. Whatever. The point is, I'm not wearing any of that stuff. You got me a bottle of something for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I wear that. It's nice. Oh, yeah. Tom Ford. Tom Ford. Is that the guy? It kind of makes you it smell like a stack of wood.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I don't know. What? It's nice. I don't think it. I don't think it's what wood smells like. Like pine, you think it's like pine needles? Maybe like pine,
Starting point is 00:56:17 sticky pine needles. Yeah, like pine and piney woods. I love getting in the woods and going to hang and playing with sticky pine needles. It reminds me of being at camp with my friend who I was kind of lackey for. It only doesn't want to last a couple of weeks, but it was kind of his lackey. And he would walk around with hatches and threaten people and you would go yeah boss I mean that was a vibe right I don't know I didn't say
Starting point is 00:56:38 yeah boss but definitely in hindsight I'm like I just is lackey because I remember he like he would just like we had like there was like a latrine um like you know from like because we we had our campsite it was it was kind of we talked about as before it was it was camp uh jagu I believe you know of course it won't me I believe I know it was this was when they shot moonrise kingdom years later the west Anderson film the famous you know uh and there was basically all the was a Boy Scout camp and everyone did be different campsites and like not every there'd be a latrine and when I the first year I went I actually didn't shit the whole week because it was like it was just you walk in it was a big box with three
Starting point is 00:57:19 three toilet seats on it no divider I was disgusting I piss in it if I wouldn't shit in it I was disgust it must have been like sixth grade or whatever I held it in the whole week nasty Do you think your shame over your shit was part of what made you a lackey? Well, look, I mean, that wasn't that, that wasn't that, that wasn't that year. There was, that was the last year they had. The next year, they had at least stalls, uh, in the train building. So it's more like, it's more like going to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I don't think it's shame over my shit. It's just, we, I think it's objectively very weird to be sitting next to another man on the toilet, just next to you and you both shit into a toilet seat on the box and a hole in the box. I think it's, I look back at that now and it's like, I'm proud of myself. Like, yeah, that's disgusting. They're trying to groom you or something. I mean, I don't think they were. I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I think the people at the camp were, I never had a problem with them. I think they were in the past. I don't know why you would, you know, it's just different sensibilities. That used to be manly, I guess, the shit next to another man. But a certain point we realized it was, what you don't, what you think is normal? I mean, look, I guess. Look, I don't know how men's bathrooms are supposed to work. Picture a box, a box.
Starting point is 00:58:35 But I know you all pissed together in one giant trough. It's different. So, like, it's like... We don't piss into a trough. What are you talking about? Wait, wait, wait, what? Occasionally, there have been urinals that are kind of like... Shitting next to each other.
Starting point is 00:58:50 What trough do you think we're pissing into? I'm not saying, like, I would want to do it, but it's like, it's like maybe a man would be okay with us. Well, I guess I'm glad you don't know where the inside of a men's room looks like. but it's usually not a big trough that we piss him together it's usually these dividers and it's still not the greatest thing you don't want to be next to a guy if a guy is next to you with a urinal I'm not afraid of it but it's always so in men's rooms there are usually dividers between the urinals yeah but then why do so many men
Starting point is 00:59:21 have stories about seeing some other guy's cock and being embarrassed by it or some guy seeing their cock I guess maybe maybe there's not dividers all the time, but a lot of the time it's like the urinal. Now I'm trying to think. I think there's a slight divider usually. It's not a divider, at least that the lip of the urinal comes out a bit. So I get
Starting point is 00:59:41 look, but a guy might be pissing further away from the urinal. I mean, there's people you walk in sometimes and then we grow men like with their pants and underwear down to their ankles pissing in the urinal. I mean, the time you're working, I mean, occasionally you know, okay, like, I seen grown men do this. Disgusting. Both, I mean, it's disgusting in both.
Starting point is 01:00:00 cases, but like, you know, at least the ones of kids, I'm not going to yell at you. Yeah, with men do, you're like, what the fuck, dude? That guy's just trying to show you his ass. But, um, I don't know. I, I, I haven't seen a lot of men's cocks at urinals. So I don't, I don't accept your premise. The quote Atlas shrugged, check your premises.
Starting point is 01:00:21 All right. Because I don't, I don't, I, I, I, I, never seen no cock in the urinal. I don't think I ever seen a cock at a urinal. Honestly. I'm trying to be honest I'm not saying I've never seen another guy but like a urinal doesn't really happen you know
Starting point is 01:00:34 I mean you're looking down you try to see a cock trying to play peaksies peekie peek-a-boos just saying why are we talking about this right so I mean look I don't know
Starting point is 01:00:50 I think something's wrong there's a disconnect here because you think it's normal not that it's normal think about this you go in it's like a wood structure there's no lights in there right it's camping and there's a big woods it's not why i brought this up but it's a big wooden structure and there's like whole like three holes and like they they i guess they get and they probably didn't originally have a toilet
Starting point is 01:01:12 seats even it's something they probably added in the 70s or the 80s you know like modernize it but and then that's older and you're just sitting next to another guy taking a shit maybe some guy you know maybe some guy from a different troop and i don't think it was even different i could see it being awkward if he was I don't even know if there was different bathrooms for, like, the adults. It's bizarre. So like a grown man would just be sharing a box with a child? I think I'd probably try not to, but what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:01:44 I don't know. It's not for me to say. The point is, I remember being in the urinal and the guy I was with, like, was, like, waving hatchets at this guy. Mm-hmm. We don't fuck with us or something. I don't know how it started. I was, you know, and whatever. They were at the urinal or the latrine.
Starting point is 01:02:03 What were you doing while he was doing this? I think I had a fleshlight at my hand. I might have said, yeah, at one point, or I don't know. I think I was confused. It escalated very quickly. I mean. But were you thinking it to blind the kid or something? No, I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I think I was a little just kind of like, just like kind of surprised by I rolled with it. Right. That he was like going quick. He was threatening this guy with hatches. I'm like, I'm not going to, like, I'm not going to wrap my friends or something. Or like, you know, I'm not going to. It does seem like the stir up.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Look, now I might be like, hey, settle down. The guy didn't, you know, probably, hey, he don't want none of that. He don't want none of that. Don't worry. He ain't going to hurt you. Or sometimes, you know, sue them a little bit, calm him down. But I just kind of went along with it. I was like, you know, seventh grade, whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Well, I'm sorry I just stand up from, you know, for that man who probably would do, if his rolls reverse, he'd let me get hatched. He didn't care. You were just like part of a roaming gang of violent youth. I mean, look, it's, I had a taste of that. with a big taste you know whatever
Starting point is 01:03:01 this is gonna keep me it is gonna make the Indians keep me from a lot will be immigrate to to the sovereign states of my work in your favor yeah hey I'm okay with hatchets
Starting point is 01:03:12 you know I'm fine with you want pull a hatchet out ain't gonna phase me my hand my hand don't shake with a hatchet so anyway
Starting point is 01:03:21 so there's that what was the point of that I don't remember. But regardless, thanks so much you're tuning in. Thank you. And don't forget,
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