Kump - Ep. 228 Kump DESTROYS Doorman Fallacy

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

This week, Ray and Lucie dive into philosophy, paranoia, cartel chaos, and the strange logic of the “doorman fallacy.” From blown-up boats in the Caribbean to escalations with John Higland, from weird weddings to military dark humor, the conversation spirals into madness.

Hello and welcome to Kump. You know, a lot of people, let's just get right to the point, have been complaining that I'm not a serious enough man. The world has a lot of problems, and I got to fix them. I got to address them. I have to enter the realm of philosophy and tubes and all this jargon, this technical sociological jargon. So we're going to accommodate you.

I found a video about philosophical paradox of sorts. And Lucy, can we play this paradox? The advertising executive, Rory Sutherland, has a wonderful concept called the doorman fallacy. The doorman fallacy. Imagine you own own a hotel and you have a doorman out the front of that hotel to open and close the door. Simple enough. I've got a number of doorman because you need them to work in shifts. Now imagine you get in some management consultants and you ask them to find efficiencies in...

All right, this is enough. This is ridiculous. Look, I have to take over this entire space. I can't have this case. I know where the doorman fallacy is. I learned it in college. This guy doesn't know how to work YouTube. Is it sort of like the trolley problem?

Go, go read Brady Hollywood. No disrespect, but I'm going to truncate this, all right? Go to his channel, watch this video. I'm sure it's great. Here's what the doormant fallacy is. You hire a doormant for your hotel, and he's supposed to do his job, right? But then you find out your doorman is selling crack. What the hell?

This is a hotel. I mean, we don't sell crack in our hotel. And the problem is It's not even that he's selling crap You wish you were selling the things other than crap Maybe powder of cocaine might be more preferable But that's the least of your problems Because he's not doing his job

He's at the in a bathroom and a toilet Getting blown and getting and trading sex wares And getting his knob slabs for crack And you know what's happening? Packages are getting stolen And then you might as well not have a doorman anymore That's the doorman fallacy All right

That's what, I'm like, no one can, people think philosophy is, like, obtuse. That seems more like a doorman problem, to be fair, than a doorman fallacy. Well, I think, look, first of all, I, well, for. Fallacy usually, like, it's like, it's like a problem with your logic. I thought fallacy was a fancy word for blowjob. Maybe I'm mistaken, all right? I mean, what you're describing seems more like a doorman situation. Like, you've got a situation with your dormant.

I think, the way that I understand. fallacy is like false like bad false is bad right yeah and so like fall so it's like you know this is like you're supposed to be a doorman but this is like this is fallacious doorman activity you know like this is like the product the doorman being good would be like opening the door taking the packages and signing for it not getting his dicks up for crack in the toilet but this guy's doing the latter not the former so it's fallacious it's fallacy I was fired for fallacious behavior on the job. I was getting my knob slopped.

How much knob-slob and do you take? What is, is it, vials of crack cocaine? Is that the nomenclature? Is that how we're running the world now? We're going to do away with the dollar as a world reserve currency. But it's not going to be what you think. It ain't going to be the euro. It ain't going to be the Chinese yuan.

Is that you pronounce it? I believe. It ain't got to be crypto either. It's going to be vials of crack cocaine. And you can exchange that for either, you know, apples and oranges or knob slabs. Get your dick sucked or get an apple. That's the new economy.

All right? Neoliberalism is coming to an end. We're in a new situation, a new economic situation. And it's much more exciting and much more depressing, right? You didn't think you could be, like, depressed and excited. same time, right? You thought it was like, you know, you sit there in your bed and you go, I wish women would, I could sap women in real life.

That's what they call it, right? There's what the kids call, you know, these young people, they call, I'm saying, they wish. You're imagining a masturbation addict. Right. Who wants. He's internalized the idea. What he really wants is to masturbate in front of somebody. I think that's really what people have kind of conditioned themselves into, unfortunately.

I think they have kind of short-circern. targeted the parts of the of the exchange. I'm not saying they can't learn to. It's, you know, you, but, you know, these young people who condition themselves to debase themselves with the wonderful, all these different kind of videos, you know. Ooh, get on the bus. We'll give you a money for this survey. But then a survey gets dirty. You know, you know what I'm talking about.

I'm not going to advertise them for free anymore. I'm always referencing them, but not going to give them free advertisers anymore. Is that one of the ones where they would leave them on the side of the road at the end? Yeah, but I think that that's fake. I think they agree to do that for the gag. But regardless, you know, they've had such a fun time that when it comes down and they're like, we're going to get women, men, whatever. And they're just like, I'm not, I know they know, but they watched enough of it. But I'm just saying it's the same way you eat a sleeve of cookies and then you try to eat a carrot, it don't work no more.

You don't, your body doesn't want the carrot if it hates you for it. It makes, and it tries to get you to jump off a building if you eat a carrot. We, we can, we, we, we are the masters of our own, like, reality. Mm-hmm. And so, therefore, we can kind of, like, create, like, force our bodies into new, like, like, like, like, feedback loops, right? Mm-hmm. And so I'm going to give young men the secret later. Um, what does I figure out?

it out. The point is, what were we talking about? We're talking about the vials. Oh, you thought you couldn't be excited and you're like, oh, I'm just so depressed, if only someone can excite me. But we're entering a time now where you can be excited and depressed, like, you're

with your girl. You know, you finally stop faping, and you got a girl now. And it's exciting to watch her get stabbed in front of you by the mass hordes of just of just, the men of violence, right?

The hungry masses, the people, the people who do eat carrots, because all they got, and they're coming for what you got. I mean, I feel like that qualifies, right? I feel like I'm right. I feel like, why, why am I not a manual Kant? Why am I not Keek or Guard, wherever any of these philosophy guys are? Well, I just said, has more bearing on the real world than anything Emmanuel Kant ever said. Do you think ever talk about a guy's fapin?

and the problems they're with or like what or like you know what happens if your girlfriend or wife gets stabbed in front of you I mean I'll look it ain't gonna happen to me I you know I'll just well Kierkegaard talked about the pain of the you know the binding of Isaac and the and the video game

the go the thing that you know when God ordered oh God was like I'll kill your son he's like yeah most death no problem on it you know I'm kidding yeah I wanted you to put up

a little bit of a fight Yeah Do you even like this kid? Like Well I forget Was that his kid? Didn't that guy like want a kid forever? Was that part of the deal?

Like he was like 300 years old We've never had a kid And I banged my like maid Like Arnold Schwarzenegger And like And got her pregnant But that's the whole thing That kid became banished

Right? Yeah, that's a market It's like eight There's like 8% of the Bible was devoted to that one story. But how this guy just couldn't get his chick pregnant. And then God's like, all right, fine.

I've unlocked the pussy or whatever. You know, I've unlocked her old pussy. You can be cream pie now, you know? And then he's like, yeah, but you know what, I'll kill it. How old was, I mean, he was, I guess he got about 15 years. If he didn't go through with it, he's like, you know, that guy, it's kind of weird. He gave me, have a kid finally, and then he's like, look, you got 15. what do you want you want to watch them not get a job there's no job look around you're

like you're the second guy ever made or whatever how many what this is not i'm not a rabbi or a priest or a pope but things are going to get nasty out there and john higland i did something wrong i think i might have done something wrong we'll get that what do we'll get to john hangland in a minute and everyone's like what's happened when john higland you know We'll get to that in a minute. First off, let me say, you guys are all doing a very good job at liking and subscribing and devoting yourself to this new cause. Now, if I promise to give you more philosophy, if I promise to teach you how to fish instead of fucking pouring fucking fish, I mean, I'll just pour fit. How to fish into your own soul?

No, this whole teaching man, the fish thing, they forgot to tell you they poison the water. All right? How about you give to you a fish, my fuck? I'll figure out how a fish land. you give me the fish now and then I'll go fish on my own I'll get a book because they're dumping there

the Exxon Valdez and $1,800 and $1,800 you know every time I... But why don't just give him a fish and teach him to fish? Yeah, I do both. You're such a good fisherman?

Give them both. Be a man. You want you guys? I love the idea like some guy's starving some skin and bones fucking rat in the man is like, ah, I'm hungry.

Like, I have a fun of those fish you're a bucket of fish. I had one of those like shut up I'll teach you the fish like I can I have one first Like nope It was like that bean dad What's a bean dad

Did you ever Were you privy to that when I was going down It sounds familiar The guy like taught his daughter How to open a can of beans Yeah Or let her figure out Right right

When she was hungry He's like he like open these beans I'll stop molesting you or something Whatever I forget exactly don't accuse me of anything slander or whatever that's just how i remember it uh here's the thing uh so look point is we'll get we'll get the bean done in a minute perhaps or maybe i'll forget point is you know but subscribe and like and that's all fun we also have a patreon patreon patreon.com

slash rake hump you get extra episodes every week for five but it's a great deal everyone who signs up is like i can't believe i didn't do is earlier and I'm like I know you don't listen why don't you listen to me in the comments section of the Patreon but we're all happy so why don't you you know if that's your thing why don't you do it if it's not your thing I'm like you know whatever

people are meeting each other in there they're finding their wives and husbands people are procreating in our comments on Patreon yeah they're they're just like you know people be getting pregnant in there people are just you know like I found a baby who's baby is this no one answered

I'm like well I just gave you the fire department but you were talking about John Higlin you feel you've what incited him that you've well look I mean we'll get we'll get through him I'm not trying to tease you here I'm not trying to be old old school radio jock Howard Stern

well oh we're gonna have beetle juice I'm gonna make I'm gonna show off beetle juice the freak man which I can see he didn't call him that was a vibe I would like to have beetle juice on my show and just talk to him like a man talking about politics you know

not like that fucking Howard Stern that scumbag you treat him right yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't convince you know people on TV to convince it was I you know why would I do that why would I do that and I'll tease things

that being said we'll get to John Higlin in a minute because the point is it kind of plays into something else another story an exciting story for some and a terrible story for others and that's just a way that we're not

in the world of neoclassical neoliberalism economics anymore I said that before and I'm saying it again this idea that we'd all get better if we just trade winners and losers it's the name of the game plus and minus right

zero some games so do I what do I feel about a guy in a boat that blows up I mean I don't want anyone to die. But I don't know, you know, we blew up a boat.

We bought, we have a video of the boat blowing up. That almost makes it sound more, that actually maybe condemns them more than they should be condemned. I'm not condemning anyone. It wasn't just some guys in a boat.

Right. It was, it was a heinous cartel members. Most likely. No, I mean, probably would. I don't think we just blew up. Bad guys.

Well, look, if you look on the backlash, some people seem to that we just targeted the military, I mean, not me. I'm not, you know, I'm not sitting in the middle of some basement and some, on some off-s pentagon off-site with joystick, you know, firing hell-fired missiles. Don't, you know, that's not my job. I got my, I already got my part in the economy, all right? You find some other guy to do that, who's trying to fap less, you know?

My point is, though, some people, some people push back, they seem to think that, do we have the video of that? Oh, the video of a, yes. I guess whatever. People will know. If you don't, you know, basically, oh, here we go. This is the... Tonight, the White House releasing this dramatic video of the U.S. blowing up a boat in the Southern Caribbean.

President Trump says it was carrying drugs from Venezuela, and that the strike killed 11 members of the notorious gang Trenneragua. Right. So, the way some people will pitch this is that I guess we don't even know if these guys were just fishing. Right. Maybe they were just fishing. maybe they were maybe they were going on a pleasure cruise which if that's the case like look i mean a certain point what are you going to do as a person what you want me to tell you can you can affect change

if they're going to blow up i mean you might as well just accept the fact that's a terrorist at this point there really is no answer anymore i we spend all these years going like whoa oh checks and balances this probably is a good thing right like it's probably we blew a boat full terrorists or Narco-terrorist or whatever. Right. And if not, what are you going to do about it? It's exciting, right? It's exciting.

And they're really just randomly blowing up boats. It's all, that's... There's no checks and balances anymore. Right. You're like, you're going to talk with the Constitution, we're just going to randomly blow up boats? Like, you kind of have to pick what you're going to claim when you fight back. I mean, even a lot of the critics of it, like, they seem to admit that, like, yeah,

this is probably who these guys were. Okay. You know, but the criticism is more they deserve to trial anyway. Right. Which I kind of. I mean, what is this? 1927? Like, what year are you, like, we've gone through this.

We spent, like, decades blowing up Pakistani weddings. Right. You know, and like, you know, because they might have a guy who knew a guy who, like, you know, who, like, used a prepaid card to play poker with another guy who, you know how it goes. And it's also, like, I don't know how much, I don't know how much under an obligation we are to actually, like, extend. like our constitutional protections that are intended for our citizens to to what country we have in the clay war on

drugs and underage prostitutes across the other thing I mean look I mean how do we have to what's next we have to like extend constitutional protection to CIA agents I mean where where's it end but you know it's not that complicated

because you just kind of like I hope you're telling the truth right and if you're not like you know what would just I mean what would that be I don't know you're right you do because I feel like I maybe early on saw people making the here's what happens on on social media you start off getting people and like they kind of coalesce eventually around better arguments like you're saying you know oh I'll give a fair

trial it's the argument yeah but at first you see people go on like well they're fishing maybe maybe they're fishing maybe they're doing paddle boarding it's like you know well so yeah maybe my anger is misdirected don't get me wrong they may have been having fun on that boat because I've been reading a little bit about these guys that trend der Agua

right okay well look so here's the thing before you get into it yeah we have a new set we haven't worked out to theme music

I may have like a bumper graphic but we have a thing we're gonna be doing where Lucy here does in a segment which does investigate reporting

I've embedded myself with some of the most dangerous people in the world on your computer yeah I've not allowed my wife to go hang out

with drug dealers I've parted with them. Whether at a hotel or on a boat. They've tattooed little butterflies on my neck. Do you realize how emasculating that would be to me? He's all so emasculating. My wife became like what, cartel property? Like I can't, I'm not, I don't want to take shit.

My wife's ass belongs to the cartel. I live my life in a way where I can, like, not take shit. Yeah. And by that, I mean, I don't really get involved. Like, I'm not the biggest, but, you know, whatever. Like, I mean, I don't get involved with people in the cartel because I don't want to get into a contest of who's going to do the worst thing to who, right? Right. That's how you have to live your life, by the way, boys.

Don't throw yourself into a situation. You call it a coward's way. It's just being pragmatic. You know, it's like, but sometimes women be doing it. They didn't lose. Thank God. But this could be a thing. A woman could bring a man down is by getting herself wrapped up in the cartel.

She thinks it's platonic, but really she's cartel property. And it's just a... I think I've earned their trust. And I'm just sitting there going, you have made my life ruined. You've ruined everything. Because I, you know, I don't know what to do. Look me in the eyes.

And they're just... I have to come, I have to go to John Higland and be like, I made a mistake, Mr. Higland. You have to, you have to teach me. Imagine I just came back. I was covered in face tattoos. I mean, look, I love you. I don't know what I'm going to do.

Like, like, we have to, like, get you late. Like, we have to bring you to, like, one of those MRI machines and hopefully just, like, lasers your face off or something. Yeah. Just get you a new face. Yeah, it's a totally new face. Because they'll just, they'll just send, what are they called, the Sicario's after me? Mm-hmm.

I, look, I, like, everyone likes, every man likes to fantasize about what they do versus a cario came after them. But, like, you know, probably getting, I'm probably dying. Like, just going by the numbers here. I know I've been working out more lately, but, I mean, come on. Maybe if I keep doing like, you know, I did incline press today, get my pecks big enough, maybe I'll sing a different tune. But for now, I'm not betting on myself, you know, whatever. Point is, so what have you learned about these men?

Well, okay, so here's something kind of interesting about them. They started, they started their project, their gang project. I love to do this game. Do they have a prospectus? in this prison in Venezuela You were they Oh, you were you mentioned a little bit about this war So they were they prisoners originally of the prison

Yes Okay, so go on And so basically they managed to somehow Kind of take over this whole prison The Tocorone prison Wow And I did not realize this I thought you, I assumed

You were telling me a little bit I assume that they just kind of found Like an abandoned prison I was like hey, like party boys You know the way a homeless guy might find like a like a nice box right right you know like I can spruce this up um but they they took over the road the prison they were in yeah wow and they got like all this stuff for it like they there was a swimming pool there there was like a zoo with exotic animals in it

wow that's bad they had a nightclub I imagine being like one of the guys in that prison who like I don't I still don't feel like joining this game yeah I just go and like what we took over the president yeah no but I mean you're gonna keep me here right like you guys have the prison like i'm not i'm not guard and it's like you you know i guess you join i mean this is like it's basically it's like a google headquarters or something yeah it's it really does sound exactly like how i envisioned the google campus yeah yeah exactly just a bunch of fucking you know violent um sexual offenders and uh and and graphs um so and so they and so they that's

that that's where they kind of make their shipments from and then we don't know where they go. Yeah, that's like where they started like headquartering themselves. And then I guess a couple of years ago they actually did like do a bust on it. Like a bunch of people went in. A bunch of police went in. Oh, so they don't have the prison hang out anymore?

I don't think they have it anymore. That actually makes me sad. Yeah. Maybe that's why they're doing this. Maybe that's why they're out there or the boats. Right, yeah. I mean, but you're kind of a party people.

Well, yeah, look, I mean, I don't care what you tell. telling me, I love boats. Now, I don't go on boats all the time because I don't have a boat because I'm not a rich man yet until I get that money. I love a boat. And you tell me, hey, take this package, a bunch of $10 dudes and just go, you know, can you bring beer? Yeah, you're being beer.

You're shit with the cartel. I don't go, fuck what you do. Just bring his package there. You know you're listening to some fucking Jimmy Buffett. Right. You know you're fucking, you're doing some yacht rock. Oh, for sure. You're fucking, you're ripping a few fucking cold ones.

Maybe, maybe, uh, what else he's doing? You got, you got, do you think they had any, like, ladies in the boat? I mean, it would be pretty, it would actually be sad if, like, they had a bunch of, uh, you know, trafficking victims in there with them or something. Yeah, well, I don't know that, look, I think a lot of people, yeah, I think a lot of what we call. Today, President Trump, uh, like, blew up a, a shipment of underage prostitutes. Well, I don't, I meant, like, you know. I meant, like, cool prostitutes who were like, you know, I don't think you want to bring much, like, you know, the most...

Hardened prostitution. Yeah, you want it around a boat. You wouldn't, they only got to sea sick. You want some women that have been around before. Right. I just make them deserve it. I mean, whatever. Look, boats are getting blown up.

I'm not the one blowing them up. Don't get mad at me. I just, like, I'm just, I'm just, fine. All right. My fantasy's ruined. Can't have women on the boat. Just a bunch of dudes. Big sausage party on a boat.

Great. No, no, now that I get it. They're hard and like that. they're they're gang bitches well don't I mean be careful what you say

but you know they might try to tattoo your face um she means she means there's most respect

possible um yeah I mean it sounds like a lot it could be a lot and it blows up it's not great

it's just what you're gonna do though now like this you go why why is Ray teasing John Higland why you know why do you wait to tell this story

before he got to the John because if you're turning in for the first time much why but okay welcome no I mean I'm glad you're here yeah but it just seems to I didn't do anything special I didn't want to show I mean I assume everyone knows John Higlin the guy who was training me in my basement that my basement gym that lives in this building that you know that's not clear he lives the building and he was training I was painting to train me and he got mad at me and started calling be fat and all those nasty stuff and and then we did the banding like call him sensei and whatever's been

back and forth to tit for tat so I got Look, I've been working out regardless. And they told me I had to go to the gym until it was resolved. I've been going to the gym. I've been doing my packs. I've been doing everything. I've been treating my body like a temple. But I did get drunk the other night.

I got a little drunk, which I haven't been doing. And I did something wrong. It's the wrong thing. What did you do? Look, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm living in fear. I don't want to give that impression out. But it's like somewhat stressful. I mean, like, I don't love beef.

I can engage in beef, right? I can beef with people I can be a confrontational person I have no problem with confrontation but like the idea it's just annoying to have to live I've lived with people who I have like perpetual beef with for years

and not just my father like you know like roommates or whatever like people who like I lived in this like windowless room and like I wasn't cool with the people but it was fine co-workers I was just mean mugged every time I got one to you know go get a you know hot dog

I got out of the fridge or whatever I was like, you know, I'm going to be to chat with them. So, but here's the. But, you know, but so it was a little stressful, what everyone would call it. And I, uh,

I, you know, so I have a few, some whiskeys. And I printed out a picture of that boat. And it just reminds you this, the boat blowing up. It was,

it was in this exact frame. One of the, you know, basically. I printed out of this picture. And I found his address, John Hinkland, on a package in the lobby.

Right? This is a security floor of the building, I guess. No, No door, man. And so I went, I went to that, you know, unit, the door is door. It was like 2 a.m. I've had, there about it.

And I taped a picture, that picture to his door. Oh, wow. Yeah. Damn. I don't know how he's going to take it. Wow. This is escalated. Well, I feel like you, the least good, the least charitable interpretation of it is I'm making a very strange threat to John Hing one.

I probably shouldn't be saying it on the show because they don't know yet. Right. I don't think. No one's contacted me. But I just, I don't know how he's going to take it. I mean, this is the first time that you've kind of,

you've given him a taste of his own stalking medicine. Yeah. Well, look, I'm just sick. I don't like being, like I feel like we do, I really talk about this even before,

just a few minutes ago. I don't want to give you the impression that I feel like my wife holds me back in life in any way or that like I can't do what I want to do. But I do feel like, I have to be aware of, like, I, I, like, if I, I would be much more of a mess and chaotic force, maybe, if I didn't have to work, I don't want you getting attacked. I don't want him, I don't know if he has a girlfriend that, like, you know, I don't think he would hit you. I mean, if he is, it's a suspectable. Don't hit women.

But, like, he might have a girlfriend who is, like, a rat of a woman. Oh, oh, they always do. Right? These crazy guys always have, like, a crazy rat girlfriend. And so, like, yeah, I don't want you getting, like, you know, like, so I feel like she would just get, like, like, just use her nails to scratch your neck. Mm-hmm.

But we have a wedding coming up. And I don't want, I don't want you get your neck scratched. Yeah, she just starts scratching at me and spitting at me and going, you know, bitch, you know, right. Yeah. You know, just, and like, you know, I could see it. It would be something. It would be something where she kind of like, you know,

she's like, stop choking me, what? I don't know why I always, like, and then she starts choking you. I don't know why I always attribute you, like, strange. women with the characteristics of me and what I would do in a situation but she's like don't choke me and like you're like what and she starts grabbing your neck with her nails. Whatever. Look

I mean I'm sorry if you can't relate but I have a wife so it's just you know it's a concern is all I'm saying so I that's why you haven't escalated sooner right I don't like taking shit but also like why escalate but I was if you had nothing to lose

if you had no if you had no wife right um now i have a wife to lose no no life no yeah um no i would just i would career like what would you what would you do to john hickland of none of those things were a factor i mean i look i i i don't want to say because they think no i mean i don't frame him for murder uh my murder you know uh i would like i might shoot myself in the leg or stab myself and blame him right you know uh i might try to I have a drill I'm not sure I mean

I didn't know where he lives because I did fantasize about just drilling into the wall a very large drill bit just see what happens now I think that was also drunk that night too I didn't do it

because I realized I don't know if he's on the other side of the wall or if he's like on the other side of the building but you know I thought about maybe like just leaving grease all over the floor that would be creepy I mean if you came home one day

yeah if you knew you were you were in a few with someone and you were dealing with them. Right. And you came home one day and your walls were covered in drill holes. Right. That would be kind of crazy. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, if he did live next to us, that'd be so great.

Because I would just, I mean, I feel like it might be like spaces. I don't know how construction works. I know some people in this show do you can listen to the show loyal listeners or construction men. And then maybe you could, you know, leave the comment, you know, would my drill, what kind of drill? I mean, I'm not trying to do it. But I'm saying, I don't know if like my wall, I know I can hear these scumbags.

making noise all night, these fucking watching their anime, these fucking people I live with, these rich kids who watch anime all day and they cackle and they play music, I hate them. I fucking hate them. But I don't, you know, but I'm not going to drill, I'm not going to just drill holes in their wall for no reason. You see what I'm getting

at? Yeah. It's just, I should have joined the army. You know, I really should have joined the army. Because I really, it's not, I get it. I get, it's not that I want to hurt anybody or, you know, I wish I had, I know it can screw you up, you know, especially when you're in war. But it is knowing you can, knowing how to do things.

No, we're just maybe, or just doing, you know, horrible things in your past. Can, like, those guys, a lot of those guys who see the horrible stuff don't fantasize necessarily by doing horrible stuff. Like leaving, you know, leave drill holes in the wall. Right. When the guy, you know, to get back of the guy. Honestly, I, I loathe to think of how messed up your mind would be. if you had actually been to war.

I mean, yeah. Because you have some, you have some crazy dark thoughts even now. I don't, do I, I mean. You had a little bit of PTSD to that. Look, I'm a whimsical man. You could have been a real problem. I feel like, look,

would I have been responsible for the my life? No, I would not have done the MyLy Massacre. No, no, I don't, yeah, I don't view you that way. Yeah, but I might have done like, you know, but it might have been responsible for like, um, like, I, the other day I'm a good guy, I feel like, Like, I don't want to hurt defenseless things.

Yeah. But, like, I could see myself, like, if a guy's already dead, like, it's sacrilegious. This is what I could do. I could be the guy. I feel like, I'm just being honest. It's not me trying to be a tough guy. I don't know about war. I'm not pretending to.

I'm just being honest about how I see myself. Like, that's just, I'm just trying to relate to you people out there. Right. No, this is good. You're opening up. I don't feel good about it. I'm just being honest. Like, I don't think most soldiers would hurt women and children.

neither. They're not going to be wrong. But I'm saying like, but yeah, maybe I'd wear someone's intestines of the necklace. I don't know. Like, it's, like, you could get, you can see yourself getting to a point like that where it's like, I mean, I wouldn't torture the guy, hopefully. Yeah. You never know what you're going to do.

You like to think you know what you're going to do, but you never really know. It's true. Like, what if, what if I got a buddy and he's trapped in a camp, in an enemy camp. I got tort, you know, oh, you're not going to torture him to get him loose? I don't know, maybe I would It's a good buddy Best friends My best friends in there

Yeah I'm not gonna judge guys You know Without the evidence Or knowledge But yeah But I could see like What this guy's dead anyway

And like he's not getting Oh you can just tell He's not getting a nice burial You know It's almost like It's more just like The gallows humor Well more just like

No more like I'm gonna be The weird crate I'm like yeah yeah Just build morale up in the unit Oh Oh, oh, right. Like, oh, yeah, every unit needs a guy. Like how, how some, how the Apatrius used to, used to scalp their, their female victims.

Was that? And then they wear the, the scalp of the woman as kind of, like, as a, as kind of battle, as kind of a battle costume. That seems not what I'm doing. It seems. As they were riding at you with their hatchet in hand. I'm not talking about wearing women's intestines, all right? I don't know what that is. That seems weak.

Well, look, obviously that's. You scalped a woman? Right. How about that men? Imagine that. Imagine you're dehydrated. It is kind of a good battle tactic when you think about it. Because imagine you're dehydrated in the desert.

And this man, this giant man on a horse comes riding at you and he's wearing like a bloody woman's wig. I take it back. I take it back. I do know I'm going to purport to know a little bit about the military and what I would do. In this context alone, in the context my wife is, and Lucy my wife is just

rigging painted here. I feel like I would be a good military commander for that moment. So I go, don't panic boys it's just a woman scalp they only killed women don't be intimidated shoot straight boys you know i feel like i was that's how i see that situation it's just like it was a bunch of guys you go oh damn maybe they killed a bunch of you know they could look at me they could be guys to work at the post office you don't know from a distance but yeah but you at least but it's a woman's Scalp?

Come on. I'm never being intimidated by that. How tough could that woman? I'm not saying women can't fight ever, you know, but still. So no. But every unit needs, like, kind of like, you know, look, Adam Ball, like, the big animal mother in Filmmel Jacket, right? Was Adam Baldwin, I think it was?

You know, he says a not nice thing to that movie. He seemed like he generally kind of made me an unpleasing kind of guy. but even the guy was the black guy who was being racist to was like look he's a piece of shit but he's a he's a fine human being when the battle starts you know that's like you need and I wouldn't so what would you rather be have me screaming

the M word all day or I'm wearing intestines you know it was a different time it's not it's not it wasn't cool back then but it's less cool now so I put the intestines on my head I go come on guys nothing to stop us we're going to win I was once when I was in school

I was like listening to this I went to listen to this speech by a guy who is part of a group called Veterans Against the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not very catchy, but yeah. And it was, and he was, like, you know, the whole thrust of him, it was actually a moving speech, like, it was about what war does to people and how you should never send people to war flippantly or just for profit or whatever. I agree with that.

But he was, like, telling his story about how, like, one of the things that made him realize how messed up he was, was that, like, he got, it was that him and his troop, like, discovered a dead body or something, like some guy who had been blown up by one of them or something. Okay. And so he like, they like took pictures with the corpse.

Oh, yeah. And then he put the pictures in a lot, one of the pictures in a locket. Yeah. And then sent the locket to this girl he liked back home. Oh, God. Like, it's kind of a gas. Well, this is so much worse than anything I was describing. First of all, to be clear, I want to point

out, just remind you, you know, like, I Look, I got myself into that mindset. But that's the worst I could see myself getting as my point. Right. I'm not saying I would do that. You know, this guy, frigate. Honestly, I'm not sure what I consider worse. Oh, this is way worse.

But my thing is the thing of like. Because that was a guy, like, I think that was just a guy getting too into the dark humor of the setting he was in. He didn't realize how much it would freak this girl out to send her. No, no, no, I'm going to tell you why it's worse. All right? My thing, my theoretical thing that I wouldn't want to do when I would be ashamed of, But we're the worst I would go, is my point. It's a guy who was already dead and you did that, right?

Right. And you go, all right, I'm wearing the intestines. Like, first of all, it's like, yes, it's technically sacral, I mean, and I guess, I would not endorse this. But it's like technically sacrilegious or whatever. But like, it's not bringing shame to him. Like, I'm not wearing his head as like a second head. Right. You know, it's just, it's intestines, right?

Like, it's just nasty and it's gnarly. And it's just like, we weren't warm. We're going to get us through them We're fighting to the end, baby But I'm saying that for the benefit of the younger soldiers, you know? Right. You know, where I'm protecting. Yeah.

I feel like I'm not just a soldier in this case of like a mother hen. Right. And like for the morini's intestines. Again, theoretical. Now, this guy, no, look, I don't like to subscribe the idea of someone who's repenting, like to pile on. Right, right. But it is, I want to be clear, like, even in my wildest dreams, I wasn't this bad.

Now, I didn't go to war, so it's easy to say. But I'm just, I don't want the idea that, there's a difference between, like, you don't know what will happen and, like, saying, like, well, I can see myself doing it. It's different things, right? So, like, I'm not trying to judge them. No, look, I think you are being very self-aware here. You're saying that, well, you would do something, and it's, it's pretty weird. I know, I know, I could be pushed to the point perhaps, but no further. Right?

So, like, it's very clear. Now, this guy is doing it for a gag to get some pussy? To get laid? Well, I don't think. I think it was more of an afterthought. Like, it's like, I want to send this something to this girl I like. And we took these pictures. Right, but my thing is, let's sort of cut you off.

My thing is like to show the other young soldiers. Like, we're the darkness. Right. Like we're in hell. And we're demons. And we're doing this. And no one can kill us. Right.

Then we can all get killed. You mean, whatever, it's war. But like, his thing is more just like, what's up? What's up? What's that dude? You know? You like that? That, look how cool I looked.

You know, we're wearing this guy's head as a hat. It's just, I do think it's just worse, even though I, he's repenting. So it's fine. It's fine, I guess. I would have not told that story. I would have, I would have worried that it made me, like, I think he's overshared, perhaps, even in the con, but that, but again, strategically overshared. But he overshared for good cause. If I was, like, he was speaking to end the war.

I know. If I was, like, the guy above him in that organization, I'd be like, look, again, we all did stuff. I mean, I didn't do anything that bad, but we all did stuff that we're not proud of, but, you know, I think you, you're, you're sharing my alienating people more than it bring people in, you know, like, it's just, I, I love how immediately, like, we're talking about this starts out as you try to sympathize with the psychology of being there. No, I don't, I don't, I don't, like, no, but my theoretical thing is better than yours. I'm being careful, but I do think I have a good sense of how the public is. The public is fickle. Look, I get it. I get that you didn't mean to wear his head as a hat.

But I mean, you know, just saying, some of these people are a little sensitive. Look, this was what, probably 2010 or something, right? Look how much more sensitive people got since then, right? In general, for all sorts of reasons. Right. How sensitive. Oh, you think everyone would be like, oh, it's so cool you did that. it's okay now

no they were cancel's ass I want this guy to get a job later you let me just say like I hope that wasn't videotaped yeah I'm near for the soldiers I'm not trying to cover up massacres but like you know whatever you didn't mean to it's a fine line war is hell it's why it shouldn't be war

it's like Bruce Willis and I mentioned a wild bag for that movie to siege Bruce Willis like don't put me in coach you know like yeah they wanted to put like in military to New York City of terrorism or something and the guy I'm like a hammer

not a scalpel right and they put him in and they got mad and he tortured the guy they told you to do this

oh poor Bruce Willis for me whatever I mean whatever I mean now now he's not doing well what is this what's happening

I'm sorry I didn't need to bring that up I thought you were going to play the clip from how did you find it that quick don't worry about we're past it

it's fine yeah no he doesn't remember that he was a famous actor he doesn't remember his name probably sad i mean sometimes i mean i'm afraid i actually like bruce wills a lot i don't know i'm about him personally but yeah these are these videos about him that's all these videos about bruce willis and just seems sad i wasn't going to bring him up but they did i heard three is amazing i heard one's amazing i heard two is also pretty good fifth element he for he doesn't remember how much

I love him or my whole or yeah and if I told them about my intestine idea he wouldn't remember it for a couple minutes you know I think that actually could be you know maybe that should be maybe we should get people in his situation who are like they agree to but like if you tell me hey you tell me because some people just don't want to talk to a priest people don't trust priests anymore I don't blame him I know a lot of priests might mean well but you know sorry sorry not sorry but like they still got get stuff over their chest We should engage, like, all the, he doesn't have Alzheimer's, but whatever it is. You know, you're a patriot?

Yeah. Well, when your brain goes, goes bad, how about you, you know, this will happen. I mean, the guys will just tell you the worst train and shit in the world that they did in war. And you just go, yeah, it's all right. Let's, you know, whatever. It's fine. You don't remember anyway. Right.

But you do subconsciously. It's like a horror movie. What if you did? What if you subconsciously did remember a little bit? Right. And just leaking to your weird. you know broken consciousness that became your memory don't steal this idea for a movie this could be my big break it's called bruce willis's mind oh man I mentioned so

yeah so I mean honestly maybe nothing will come with it I feel like if someone just randomly saw a picture of a boat blowing up they feel vaguely threatened but you know it's not like what they're gonna do go to the cops right hope not hope they don't you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna lie from me if it comes down to it. Always. Give me a liar's alibi. Give me that sweet liar's alibi, maybe.

One more time. You tell me ahead of time, I'll construct an amazing alibi for you. I'll create a replica of you. I bet you let me. A big straw replica. You always do this. And I'll literally like go to the diner with it or something. Why can't you just learn the script?

if they give you. So it's not just me. It's not just me saying, oh, yeah, he was here. Why can't you just learn? Like a waiter. It's like some. You always want to make it some,

it's a show tune thing. Like we're making a play. It's just like, you know, just remember the fact, important facts, you know? The waiter will be looking at me and my hey husband and he,

but he won't remember that it was. So we're involving a waiter now? He won't remember that it was hey. Like, because I'll make it look really good. He'll just think like, oh yeah, there was a guy in like a, in a red,

white and black. We're going to prison. Fatigue. we're going to prison a sweatshirt and a crazy hat and we're going to prison you need to cut this out listen if I come to you in a panic I'm like I need you to make it out of my you can't be you know come over these crazy ideas and then I can use your credit

card to pay for the meal and I'll get a delicious meal they're going to get us on bank fraud or something now the kind of meal that like a waiter would remember you know what like can I get pissing shit in an omelet a piss and shit omelet I remember he Yeah, this fat guy came in A fucking weird camo shirt And he was asking me for a piss and shit omelette

I was like, what? And he's like, I'll just have a hamburger I was like He didn't even He, I barely got a chance to respond He's I think he wanted the hamburger I don't know Who wants a piss and shit omelette

And that's like a long like That could be on order like a like a little segue You know Like it was a quippy segues they have Like the scene ends Restoken him the cops He's like, I mean, who wants a piss and shit on one anyway? And just cuts up like the next scene.

Well, never to solve this case. Oh, I mentioned before that we're going to a wedding. That's right. A little wedding, a family wedding. A young person's wedding. A big young wedding. How young are they? Like 30.

In their 20s? Oh, I thought they're like late 20s, right? Jeez. I mean, I mean, I mean, I didn't. They're feeling catty today Well, no, I don't love young people Look, I mean, if you're a younger person Listen to the show, I'm sure you're not the type of it

But I don't like peat like festivities Per se I mean, I mean, look, it's one thing How much of older people just set in their ways And we're all just, we agree to come together And have a little, we're celebrating And we know how to act, you know right? And we know how we know how to drink

and not make a big deal out of it and not like dance so loud and act like this is the greatest thing ever right yeah I'm just saying but young people tend to think this is like this is amazing like my parents are in here I'm gonna get crunked that's the little thing

I don't like it you call me you call me a foge you can call me a you know what's about you look at me like a boomer energy I'm sure they're mid-20s it's fine you're going to have a blast at this thing I'm gonna I'm gonna do whatever I do

here's I'm well look I'll be honest of you I will I might let myself go a little bit that has that expression let yourself go um because I got a little

look the invitation uh kind of tried to make me I feel like they wanted to make me feel like self-conscious because it said something to be effective of this is a fancy wedding

right it's not black tie because that would be tuxedos right that would be tuxedos it's not it's not tails and pails but it was recommended

that you wear a dark suit yeah which I have anyway because I wear a suit I wear a funeral so it's fine dark shoes yeah

I don't like the idea if you're gonna do black tie you're gonna do black tie you're gonna do you know otherwise I don't have otherwise I know how to dress myself for a wedding I'm not gonna show up

to your fucking wedding, you know, wearing a, you know, wearing a Budweiser frog t-shirt as much as I might like to, you know, and me showing up a Budweiser shirt and a, in a pair of, in a garbage bag is my pants. You know, I mean, like, that's that way, when you tell me to dress nice, that's how I feel. So I might, I might decide just to get a little very, very drunk. Oh, yeah? I make a big problem with myself. You're going to make a scene?

Well, I mean, a scene, more of a problem. A scene is just more like, oh, what's happening there? I want, I want people to be like, is this going to be okay? Is the wedding going to keep going? Why is he so sweaty? He's very red. And you know, who overserved him? Oh, he bought a giant bottle of bourbon.

Okay. I guess called the cops. That's what I want to have happen. So, all right. So you actually want to, I mean, is this, are you going to start grabbing the mic? Look, I mean, you're saying it. You're saying it's going to, I have too much respect for microphones in my, you know, in my experience. You know, I'll do something nice with the mic.

I'll give a nice speech. Yeah. And it'll be probably better than any speech for the night. I don't care of drunk I am. All right. I'm going to really. So that's, I don't like that implication. I would just be boring people with my drunkenness.

I'll tell some nice dirty jokes I'll rant about you know migrant crisis which might you know may go over well with some of the who knows things are you know things are not what you think young people are not politically what you you know no one knows what's happening with them

I mean something you know they're they're very I've heard they're very intense politically if you catch my drift and uh maybe I'll play the crowd a little bit we'll see we'll see how we'll see you i think is go with a little crowd work but but that wasn't even what i was thinking though you got you went right to the microphone i i want i i feel like i would come in and try to impose my will on the weight staff and now i love weight stuff not not will i i i really have my sound to you because you don't understand i'm always

very polite to waste of but i but i would i would need to build up like a credibility for why i'm a problem. So I ever start coming and give them my macros first. Like I need to know the calorie count for this meal and the macros. I don't understand.

I've been lifting lately. I've been working out. I can't just not know. I can't put things in my goddamn what's so hard. You know what they put in the chip? What are they cooking with oil of butter? You know?

I just started making it. Honestly, like they should be able to tell you. I don't know why restaurants can't just like, I'm not saying you have to publish it in like the newspaper like this has a thousand calories oh don't eat it i get it you're a business but if i want to know if i can eat this bun meat sandwich and stay within my macro range i shouldn't it shouldn't be like trying to find the holy grail in jerusalem or whatever you know right um and i guess things this will escalate from there as organically i'm not going to try to script

the whole thing line for line but i feel like you know i just want i just want people to remember me when I die is that so wrong what's wrong why everyone else gets to do that everyone else gets to like go to war and write a memoir and like or be a politician and write a memoir what am i going to write about you want a legacy i need stories i need stories to tell my grandkids or people in prison who i'm in prison with you know like what am i going to say like oh and then like if i if i end up going to prison for any number of reasons even though i try to live my life is a moral man if I am going to prison what I'm going to be like and then and then the next week me and Lucy podcast it again I need real stories you know I need to get my I need to get

my hands in the dirt maybe we should go on a cross-country road trip interesting like to see America maybe we should maybe we should uh get a abandoned school bus or something right yeah Like a RV This is starting to sound like the kind of thing that leads to my murder But what I mean me? Well, I know it wouldn't be you I'm not taking you a national park, don't worry We'll build a cage

Like not a cage But like a whole The whole back half of the bus will be caged off And the end of the cat can be in there Right And we'll go around like that Like there's a lot of YouTubers like that There's that guy Andrew Garfield

No what's his name The guy with the big hair And he goes around you know the bars and talks to drunk people and like I'm a journalist like I guess the guy who Andrew Hunter Biden oh um Andrew something whatever Callahan right we'll be like the new Andrew Cal you know you've had you've had your time now we're doing it we'll just follow him around and like you know look at him over this guy he's a very he's very famous oh right yeah this is this is uh this guy you can see his face yeah

some of them aren't the only one of those pictures are him. The guy has the big hair. Whether he goes around the bars and he goes some drunk biker and be like I don't really watch it that much. I've seen clips and he goes like what do you like what kind of chicken you like or whatever? I don't know I probably

see this is a problem. I don't think things true. Right. So I'm thinking like that guy's probably asking some really great questions. I know he was talking to Hunter Biden about crack. You know how much crack cost or whatever where you buy it. Yeah. So I don't know. I think I think he asked the difference between crack and power,

which just seems like, I know you try, like, it just seems like, you know, we all know the difference is. You look up in two seconds, I work at peevee, why you're asking any crackheads? It seems insulting. It seems like insult.

So it's like asking you have a woman who was like, like he became a prostitute because he was broke and I'd be for kids. And, you know, oh, interesting. So like, how much would you charge for a blow job? You know, like it seems like it seems disrespectful or whatever. But you did the guy, I guess 100 Biden does have a corruption allegations right so I guess this is all wash but my point is we'll follow him around

and we'll just try to beat him to the punch like I feel like every time we see him like interviewing guy I'll just roll up with my own camera well it's like the way you would if you saw if it was like fire in the fire chief without the fire and like everyone's trying to get the mic in his mouth and like and the people yell at each other like reporters like I'm asking the question it'll be like that but these are random people it'll be that's actually not bad again no one steal this idea I have all these ideas I need to franchises these ideas out. I'm an idea, man.

I'm like Carl Rove. You know? I feel like I could I have come up with those like guys, what they call it? Cause those Brooks brothers goons. Everwood in the Florida recount in 2000. Like they sent those guys and like dressed up like preppy. Oh right. Yeah.

The prep squad. To try and like to meet, try and mug their way into into the into the count. I feel I could come up with that. Like that's my role. I miss my. I don't think I miss my window yet. But, I mean, I think I'm the guy behind the curtain, like, what if we just, you know, what if we just poison in the water? You know, I think, what was that mean?

Like, I don't know. I had the idea. Yeah, you figure it out. Right. You know, like, brainstorming. Yeah. I, you know, like, well, you imagine a writer's room would be like, we just brainstorm ideas. But, you know, for carnage or whatever.

Why can't people, why don't we have a writer's room for wars? I mean, like, literally, but, you know, like, literally just a bunch of generals going around. like you're just riffing and they come up with ideas we get stuff like that's basically war propaganda right no but I don't mean like I don't mean how to convince people let's keep going doing the war I mean like actually do yeah we spent like 20 years Afghanistan and no one and like you should have like a bunch of dudes just be like well if we try uh what if we try just giving them money I mean there are ideas like this sometime I think no one has idea but like it should be a thing where you're ripping off each other and like everyone's got a gun because you're in the

military at that point so you get to have a gun and maybe we shoot it when it's a good idea we'll shoot our guns in the ceiling I feel like that's kind of what like the OSS was like the OSS before yeah the original before the CIA was like oh we got

because the OSS used to be like dirty tricks yeah like how we get these Nazis at one point they were like strapping bombs to bats right like cool shit you're like oh it's fucking wildcard shit and then everyone got back to the war like all right now we're going to take what we were doing and we're going to just

a few shanings is now it's just going to be like how we make the banks get all the money doesn't seem what we're doing about the bats like yeah we'll leave the bats in germany that's for you know that was fun but now we're just going to fucking you know tank the economy uh and give the banks all the money and maybe the president goes you know into the ground you know it's like well that doesn't seem fun the president goes it to the ground the same look it's like everyone's like Oh, the original OSS became the C. It doesn't seem like it.

I mean, I guess a few of the guys. E. Howard Hunt. That reminds me. We'll end on this. Bring up William Buckley E. Howard Hunt. Sorry for the beeps. I think my chicken's ready. I've been sousviting chicken and my apps telling me it's ready.

Is that us? This is like an old thing of us. It's like a picture and picture. We should start doing it. We should start having episodes. Infinite comp. Yeah. This is the infinity comp.

William Buckley, E. Howard Hunt. Now, everyone knows who E. Howard Hunt is. He's a classic CIA guy. He was OSS. He was around the Bay of Pigs. All sorts of shenanigans. He's tied into all of it. Let's get.

And he's going to introduce his back of journal. He's a rival war game, which is what they're going to talk about in the show. We're not going to watch the whole thing. That's, I mean, it's probably fun. He's just the part we just describing him. On television, two quotes, the black male of Howard Hunt. And the tapes, of course, as we all know, use the same word. But there are two interpretations of Mr. Nixon's conduct when threatened with the alleged black male we propose today.

To question Mr. Hunt about these critical events, both as they affect him and as they affect Mr. Nixon. Howard Hunt, who was second in command of the Watergate, break-in. He gave himself up shortly after the principles were apprehended. In January of 1973, he pleaded guilty. In March, he was sentenced to 35 years in jail for conspiring in a simple break-in, unarmed, without lawsonous intent, and with a clean record. He was jailed in March. Meanwhile, his wife had been killed in an airplane accident. In August, he testified Before the Irvin Committee, in November, Judge Zareka reduced the sentence to eight years. In December, the Court of Appeals ordered his release, pending a review of alleged irregularities in the prosecution.

Next June, the next month, the Court of Appeals will hear arguments. After that, he will return to jail or remain free. Meanwhile, he is at work on a book about his experiences tentatively entitled, The Road to Watergate. It will be his 43rd book. I'm constrained to say, full disclosure-wise, that I have known him 23 years, and I'm the godfather of three of his children,

an executive of his wife's estate. What? I thought it's a long buildup, maybe. It's a long buildup, but it's like, that's crazy. Dude, no, this is like, so you're CIA. Right, but I've heard whips a bit before, but like, it's just so blatant. I know it was like a long, but without, you get. Like the godfather to both of his children, like, that strikes you as weird to begin with.

Three of his children. I'm godfathered, three of his children, an executive of his wife's estate, who died in a plane crash shortly after Wardigate? Like, what's going on? Right. it. And he just brings this guy later in the episode, like, someone's asking them, like, the whole thing pertains to, like,

uh, I guess like John Dean came to Nixon back, you know, it was one of the crucial things of Wargate and said, like, a hunt wants like, whatever, $70,000. Uh, always going to, like, say shit. Whatever, he's the guy, we get the money.

The money can we got. Um, and it's like a crucial thing where he's like, a black man who's paying off a, blah. But like, I know, this is the whole point of this interview is like, yeah, maybe it's, true, but he's establishing that, you know, uh, actually, you know, like covert people who get caught, there's always an understanding of the people, family gets paid while, while the imprisonment's happening, you know, talk. It's one of those things, right? So, you know, but like, like, this is, like,

female, like, journalist was in the crowd, and she, like, they'll answer her question. He's like, do you think, uh, Nixon should be, uh, um, indicted? He's like, do you have to answer that? He's like, don't answer that. I didn't bring you up for that. So whatever. I mean, we're talking about the OSS and stuff. But that's, I mean, Buckley might have been the guy with the bats. Right. Is the point.

He'll probably claim that he was just, you know, at Harvard, you know, chicken highballs. But maybe he was trapping bats to bombs. You don't know. It's a dangerous world out there. But, uh, truly. So anyway, we've come to another end. But there's not, not the end for you out there.

There's hope. It's going to get a lot worse. But that's only for you. if it gets better for you bad or worse boat blows up i don't know there's no more answers just stay safe and uh you know just trying to try try to be all right try to be okay have a good night Thank you.