Kump - Ep. 234 The Jeremy Allen White House
Episode Date: October 24, 2025Ray and Lucie discuss Ray's Jeremy Allen White conspiracy theory, a revelation about the White House East Wing destruction, their own ideas for White House additions, and much more. 🎧 Subscribe... on Patreon for bonus episodes every week:patreon.com/raykump
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Welcome to Kump.
We have a lot to get to today.
Hello, Lucy.
Hello. Hello. We were going to discuss this White House
Demolition Project with the East Wing is very
Interesting. I have an interesting bit of information on that
So stay but for I this stuck in my craw
And it's gonna seem weird
I don't know how quite like you know pivoting through it organically
Can we just see? Let's just show this weird thing
This is Jeremy Allen White
It's a tweet I saw now if you don't know if you're listening on the audio
And you don't know who Jeremy Allen White is.
He's the guy from the bear that show that's a comedy about a restaurant where nothing's funny ever seems to happen.
And it's just, they take like a place that's sort of Steakums in the middle of Chicago.
Like, I'm sure it's good, but like Steakams, but good, right?
That was the gimmick for that, the bear in the canon of the show.
And then the idea is that it becomes like a four-star Michelin thing in the middle of down.
whatever part of Chicago isn't good
where people get killed all the time.
I don't know about that.
They deal with that element of it?
I don't know.
But it's fine.
People know that show.
But he's kind of a genius, right?
He always plays a genius.
What's that I'm saying?
He's like, this guy, he's like a troubled.
He used to work at like the top chefs' kitchens.
He knows all the best boys.
All the top chefs.
He's like, he knows everyone in the industry.
He's always, like, he's the kind of thing where he comes in.
Like, he's James Bond going to a spot.
convention, oh, you're still in the business?
Oh, I'm working at the Steakam shop.
It's like, you fell far.
That's before you find out, he was good.
It's like, oh, he knows these people, right?
He's such a genius.
And then this guy, and back when he was on Shameless, he was playing a genius.
He was his kid.
The show was about like a, like a wino.
Like, like, Frigian, William H. Macy plays.
A wino's illegitimate children.
Right.
He's eight children, and he's just a guy who does like,
at first.
Like, I think he sometimes steals credit cards, right?
And you think, oh, is he going to become some kind of hustler on the streets?
Like, hey, daddy, or whatever, you know.
But, no, he gets, like, recruited by the NSA in this show later on.
You watch, I come in one night.
You're watching in the middle of the night.
I only watch the first season.
And he's like, what's going on here?
He's like, oh, he's being recruited into the CIA as a computer genius.
Now, why is this so important to me?
Why do I care about you?
Because if you look, this tweet, it's pictures from a magazine spread.
I don't know which.
It doesn't matter.
You know, at first I'm like, well, it's really interesting.
You know, he got kind of his barrel chest.
It reminds me of an old-school actor.
You look at his face.
Look at his damn face.
This is the dumbest-looking man I've ever seen in my life.
The dumbest looking man.
He, he, these faces, and it's not the first time I've seen this.
I mean, look at that, look at that expression.
Look, this is not, I'm not saying he doesn't know, uh, you know, you know,
you can't name
all 50 amendments of the
Constitution or whatever. He hasn't read
Chaucer. I'm saying this guy looks
like if you asked him
how a toilet works, he would just
stare.
That's my level of intelligence.
Hey, come, how do we figure out this kid's
really a gifted
kit? Well, ask him how a toilet work.
What else would you do?
Boop go down.
It's like how they do they pick the dolly
Lomber. Just put him in front of
of a toilet and see what he does.
See if he can make sense that is crapper.
But, yeah, but he looks like he doesn't,
it's just an old school level of dumb.
Like when you watch like the Sopranos or like, you know,
the Godfather even, they're like not, again,
they're not, you know, Rhodes Scholars, these characters,
but they have conversating.
But when you watch an old mob,
but these guys, like there's always these lumps, right?
Like, well, who's that famous of Luke Grabrazzi from the Godfather?
was the one guy, uh, uh, you know, like, kind of like, it hurts to even, like, you know,
dink.
Like, thinking actually hurts their brain.
We don't see that anymore, but that's what you see when you look at Jeremy Allen White.
Right.
And look, if it was just this, would I be going on crazy?
How do I look to people?
I get it.
I'm not just going off on one tweet.
Can we pull up, is why I have a here on this button?
No, okay.
So this is, this is a Calvin Klein billboard.
I believe I saw this on, like, Sixth Avenue or something for, like, a few months.
This is a Jeremy Allen.
Now, we've all seen the Calvin Klein billboards.
It's men, well, you know, when they are men, let's just say, it's, you know, they're, they're showing their butt, your ass, you know, the jeans.
They're showing the bod.
It fits nice.
Maybe it's coming down.
It's, it's, it's, it's, they look, he looks like he's just a candid picture of like a fucking stalker took of him trying to get changed in the street.
before, like, an acting interview.
Like, it looks like Jeremy L. White showed up, and he's like, hey, I've been on
Shameless with the Wynel family, where I play The Genius.
But I'm not like, I'm still not, what they call offer only, where you just get
offered parts.
I have to audition for the bear, and he showed up for the audition, and he just changed
on the street and took the picture.
That's how dumb he looks.
This can't be an accident.
His face is filled.
It's a mix of stupidity and shame.
Bewilderment at the idea of where, like, I'm a.
What is...
It's a camera.
What is I'm doing a camera?
Well, he's not mad that you're taking a picture.
He doesn't understand what a camera is.
That's the level of stupid on his face.
He looks like he's trying to take a shit
and he doesn't know how.
Right.
And also, he's been, like, beaten in the past for doing it.
Yeah, for asking how to take a shit.
I just don't want to make a firm mistake again.
I don't want to do the wrong thing.
I mean, I just...
He's attracted.
His face is attractive.
I'm not the person to judge, Jeremy.
You know, he's, in a lot of ways, he's like a physical Adonis, maybe.
I don't know.
He's got a great bod.
I'm not a woman.
But, yeah, he's got a nice body.
I think he's reasonably tall enough.
I know women might tall.
He seems tallish.
I mean, he's got, like, that kind of old school, like the, his nose is kind of sharp.
You know, like an Italian guy, you know, like they kind of, he should, but he looks like a, like, like, a handicapped person.
And it just, and it's just, it can't be a coincidence that keep making it like geniuses.
This is some kind of sciop.
They want to rewrite history and narratives for us.
This is like, they don't need to go and write Beowulf because they don't read
Baywolf, right?
It used to be like, you know, actors, like, yeah, if you saw them talk in an interview,
it would be clear that they were as dumb as rocks.
Right.
But like, but in the movies and the characters they were playing, they were playing a genius,
they had gravitas.
Like they knew how to deliver a line like a genius would.
Yes, yeah.
Dude, I love the Americans.
I don't show up about that.
and Matthew Reese, the guy who plays
like the main guy, is like this nuance
and like subtle character who's a killer
but also like sharp and he's kind of got
these like quips and whatever
all the things that are making you go to this guy
and you hear him in an interview and it's like he's
you know but they don't
have to do it right? They have gravitas
I'm saying that I don't know if Becky Reese's
I don't want to talk shit I mean like the guy
he doesn't seem like I'm going to say he's brilliant
but he knows how to have him part bravatos
but you watch this guy in these shows
that's the other part is this good point
he's not doing that
and the show he's just going
like if the show is about him being a cook
he's like we need more stagoms
I would get him a stagops
that's what he thinks like a top chef does
I know Gordon Ramsey is a thing
but I mean the level of like
I remember watching that show
because he just seems to scream
like it's all wrong
all right
it's just like
then why would they do this
they want to confuse us
and that sounds simplistic
but that's actually the most
important because so much like the discourse and we'll get to the whole east wing for instance and
tear down and stuff and some other stuff that's going on this week right i don't care anything about
politics i don't care you know who who my point is but like you notice what people talk back and
forth about it is these fine points that like what are we talking about that right and like they want
that to be they they they just want you and stop quest like they don't want you to have a firm ground to
even have a debate
anymore. That's what they want
10 years from now.
They want to replace you with an
Amazon fire tablet.
Right? And like it's going to be
easier when you just don't
like when you watch Terry Gilliams Brazil
you're not like, oh, this makes
sense that the people
who control me are smart. It feels like
these satires are all well it feels arbitrary
who controls everything, right?
But that's not an accident. Because
when you think there's a change you can be, well this doesn't
seem fair. They want
a world where that doesn't come up.
They want a world where you go, well, I know, if I try to bring this, if I try to bring
this up, I'm Jeremy Allen White in your example.
I know it's getting a little confusing now, but that's how it's going to be.
Because it's, I'm saying he's dumb, but they also want to make you, they want to
realize that that's a genius.
Yeah.
And that you're also like, hey, I don't know how to take a shit.
I was, apparently, I mean, I thought I did.
I was beat pretty hard last time I tried.
I did the wrong thing.
I don't want to do the wrong thing, but I know if I ask again, I'll just get hit again.
That's the problem situation we're in.
That's, like, this is what they want.
We're not, maybe not quite there yet, but that's what they want.
That's why Jeremy Allen-Ly's very valuable to them.
And why do you go, why do they keep casting this guy in things?
And he's good-looking enough for so we're a lot of people.
Jacob Alorni's quite handsome.
Right?
Yeah.
When he gets roles, I guess, whatever.
Why do all these genius characters just keep going, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Right.
No, my point, but why.
Because they want this.
They want,
they Barry Cogan plays like fucking swab guys now somewhere, right?
Right.
It's like, that guy's like a weird, like,
that guy should be playing like whoever like Dustin Hoffman played 30 years ago.
Right, yeah.
He started off kind of playing like ghoulish characters,
which was great.
Yeah.
He was great in those roles.
Right.
But him playing creepy ghouls.
Right.
But now they want him to, oh, you know, he's a date to Green a Carpenter.
Oh, the girl was in her underwear and that's now this week.
Which was like, yeah.
And everyone's like, is she hot or not?
I don't know.
Why don't I care about Barry Coogan's girlfriend?
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
But this is what I'm saying.
It used to be like Paul Newman, Robert Redford.
Things made sense a little bit.
Right.
Oh, he's dating and who's a, he's dating and Margaret.
Quite attractive.
And like, it's just, and it's like, but it's just, but Paul Newman never looked like this on his face.
You know, in HUD, he played like kind of a, not the smartest guy.
HUD, he played like a guy who was like a, like, his dad owned a cattle ranch.
and not a particularly huge one
it was kind of not doing great
but he was like the guy who was still like
you know he helped with that
but he was like he was banging all the
all the wives around town
he was like a dumb jock who's just like
he got getting in trouble because he's banging
everyone's wife and it was like hey
hud this is getting
we're starting to get sick of this
and then the movie kind of turns
through the thing about because the cows
getting hoof and mouth disease and the FDA
or someone comes that's like
whatever the agriculture
or whatever does this
comes down to you have to kill all the cows.
And I guess that inspires him to, like, grow up.
But he's playing, like, a not-sharp.
He never looked like this.
I don't care what which role we're talking about.
Yeah.
I think you're onto something here.
It's for the purpose of confusion and demoralization.
They just don't want...
I mean, look, you could also argue that I'm losing a grip on reality.
But I'm starting to go on Twitter too much,
and I just spent all my time staring at Jeremy Allen White,
and I won't admit to my wife that I'm gay.
That's also possible.
I don't think it's true.
I don't think I'm attracted to Joe,
but I've been staring at him
and the right of his picture of him
and his underwear up for the past 10 minutes.
So whatever, I don't know.
I feel like I do feel like I'm onto something.
I feel like they don't want anything to make sense.
Um,
but you look,
what can I do?
I'm going to try to meet Jeremy Allen White.
Maybe they should have him on the show.
I mean, do you think he would do the show?
You think we get on and show?
show him. Can someone show it? Can someone clip this? Can someone do the work I'm supposed to do
for this show and for me and clip this and sent it to him and say, hey, this guy was talking
about you. Do you find this flattering? It'd be funny if he's not dumb at all, which I don't
think he is, to be clear. I'm not saying he is dumb. He might, I mean, if he wasn't,
but if he's not, he's such a good actor, it doesn't make sense that he sounds away. He would
be so much better in my opinion but whatever my point is someone show him this if you could
and say hey do you find this flattering or offensive do you want to react to this i don't know
i'd love to get his take on this i need to get more funny to start a feud with jeremy allan
i mean it wasn't the point i made if i was if i was good at this that would be the point of this
but that point of this was just to just spondificate about how he's going to look at this and he's just
what is this fat idiot saying about me i look too stupid
it and on the billboard they pay me two million dollars to be on yeah i'm the moron i'm the big
idiot fat guy well played and i'm like oh i don't know they want they want they what they want
but it begs the question why would you pay someone two million dollars to do this and then
choose this frame why if you ask him that he'd say what you say no no now i'm just eating my own
I'm just eating my own debate
I'm just saying but no but yeah
he's just going to be funny he's like
I don't know I don't think about it
I just look hot
but I don't think that's the case
I think he actually well whatever
anyway
that's just food for thought we'll move on
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So we have this White House, what would you call?
How would you just say it succinctly?
It's change.
You know, change is the only constant.
Sure.
And the White House is changing.
it's it times they are changing it's a lot of people have been showing pictures of the wreckage right do we have
that up here or no of the demolition you pull that up people but like look so here's what's going on
the what trump is i guess he announced this recently and we all made fun of it and i didn't you know
quite know what it meant but he's like we're going to make ballroom here and everyone was kind
of laughing that's why Kimmel got fired for for a minute and then brought back you know i got just
i don't care whatever actually happened but yes this is the
That's fine, right?
Just leave it.
That's fun.
So this is the, this is, everyone freaked out this week because this is these pictures
started coming out, and this is the White House being torn apart.
And you know, I think you're wondering, like, what, what would you have to offer this,
this debate about whether this should be torn?
And I'm honestly not even sure.
Some, you're actually not on bad footing there.
Like, why would I be talking?
Because I'm actually not even sure what the back and forth is, right?
Like, people seem to just be, like, mad that he's doing it without congressional.
approval, which I don't know.
Do they need it? Do they not need it?
I don't know.
Like, they're all valid questions, I guess.
There's going to be a lot of Heming and Hong and free.
But here's my thing.
Here's why I brought.
It struck me.
I don't actually know what I,
or it didn't until this happened,
realize what the east wing of the White House is.
I literally thought,
do we have a, this is the white,
do we have a picture of the White House first?
Like, is that the, is that the White House there in the photo?
Right.
that one look like that one that's is that the west wing or the that's just the
white mansion right what you see when you look at the white house is my point is just i think most
of the time people are looking at the center of it yeah i'm not sure what you think the white
house is i'm not saying many people will know i'm not like breaking ground here they know but you
you have like the the building that we think of as the white house and then just and you think
well, which one's, like, so you have the West Wing and the East Wing, right?
And the, you know, and the President works in the West Wing and what happens in East Wing, I'm not sure.
I didn't know until, I knew there was a West Wing, is my point.
And I only knew that, but I only knew that after a few years of watching the show the West Wing.
I mean, when I say I know it was a West Wing.
Do you know it after the first season?
Well, we'll get to this.
And people are people going, what the hell are you talking about?
Well, you sound like you're having a stroke.
but I want to get this idea across
because I don't think
I'm actually like a handicapped man
in the brain
I don't think I'm stupid
I mean people think overstate my intelligence sometimes
but that's stupid
and watching the West Wing
and Donna and Josh
you don't know it doesn't matter where they are
I remember she was waiting
and she's his assistant
and it was established
I was waiting by this window
to see you come up with a parking lot
and I just got curious one day
and I'm like where would she be standing
in the building
and I looked I was like
I mean, this is like years ago.
I'm looking at the freaking thing.
And I see a picture.
I'm like, oh, it's a whole different building, the West Wing.
It is?
I thought it was all connected by, like, colonnades.
It's like a different building they build.
And then they build, like, a pornico or something that connects it.
Okay.
Or something.
Like, you know what I mean?
So it's like, it is kind of part of the complex, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I've known that for years.
And, like, well, all right.
But here's what's crazy.
I still didn't know it was a,
separate building called the East. I thought the resident
was the, I thought the main thing was the East Wing.
Oh, this is the West Wing, which is sure occurred to me. I know I'm dumb,
but like, so the mansion, the middle thing is just a residency.
And then you have the West Wing. People were, the, I don't even know what happens
in the East Wing. Apparently you can't have parties in there.
It's a museum? I don't even know. I'm saying people lose in their minds.
A bad thing that's way off to the side. If you go to the,
I've been to the White House twice, not inside. But like, on Boy Scout trips,
And we went to the gates
And we're looking for
Yeah, we're standing there for a few minutes
Because I was younger
I'm still probably cool if I went now
Oh look, it's the thing I know about
The White House, you know, you're looking at it
But you don't see
Like that's just behind the trees and shit
You don't even know it's there
A lot of the important stuff
Is in the West Wing
Well someone's like
Oh yeah, imagine the West Wing
But yeah, look, it still wouldn't make a difference maybe
But like if they said to you
Like the Oval Office is gone
You'd at least go like
well, interesting.
Right.
I've always known
the White House
to have an oval office.
It's in every movie, right?
I'm not saying
it doesn't matter.
I mean, maybe I'm saying that.
I can't imagine
that I'm so much less informed
than most people.
I don't think this is, though,
because we have a chart here?
Yeah.
Bring up that chart.
I don't think they always exist.
I think, I mean,
they say they say they do.
And people are acting like,
like he's like he's shilling
the Constitution and set on fire,
which he will
I must say he won't do that
but this is a separate issue
this is like
I can't
also on top of there are
legitimate things
where they've rebuilt this shit
this is only like
goes back to like 19
I think they built it in 1900
and they renovated in 48
like heavily
like whatever
I don't know
should you tear
I don't know
I'm not a lawyer
or if I mean
I know Jackie Onassis
got really upset
about like Penn Station closing
and so much so
they made sure
the Grand Central Station
didn't close down
in New York City
I would have been more like, hey, can we get a new war on commission?
You killed my husband, right?
I would have put more emphasis on that.
Hey, can we find her who actually killed my husband?
I guess she's been through enough.
Whatever, I'm saying, but she, like, there's a whole preservation thing that's happened since then.
You could argue.
But I don't know.
I just don't think people understand what the West Wing or the East Wing is.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of it seems to be, like I have a list of rooms here.
There's a garden room.
I've heard of the Rose Garden.
I haven't heard of the garden room.
Yeah.
East Colonnade, visitors' entrance.
It's a lot of the visitor stuff seems to be there.
So is that where you go?
There's a theater where you watch a video
welcoming you to the White House.
This does make sense because I always did think, like, what?
So they're going to, like, you're going to go on a tour.
I've never been on the tour, but you go on a tour
and you're showing up while, like, you know,
whatever it would be at the time, Andy Card, you know,
You know, if you watch, the chief of staff and they're having these, they're talking about Cuba and nuke in Cuba, whatever they do in the West Wing, and people just showing up for tours.
But I think, you know, I'm sure they do it off hours.
But the point is, like, it just seems weird to be even showing up in the same, like, I, but no, that makes sense they have a separate visitors thing where you, you go over there, way over there.
So, like, even if you are a weird lunatic, we have you over there for a while, and then we bring you over the for the tour over there, right?
Yeah, we get to, we get to, we get to scope you out a little bit.
Right.
It's kind of when you go to, you know, some theme point.
and it's like this stupid, you know,
when we went to the World War II Museum
and we watched a dumb Tom Hanks movie.
Right, remember?
Oh, you didn't see that.
It's not great.
It's fine.
Tom Hanks, he's a pro, but whatever.
My point is like, yeah,
so I don't really, it doesn't matter
if that gets torn down and rebuilt.
Like, well, I'll admit a lot of shit.
I'm not like, I'm not sitting here
and the one like, don't want you, Trump or this and that.
Whatever.
There's a lot of divisive stuff happening.
Very spicy time to live.
This doesn't seem like one of the big things.
Apparently, they're Nixon.
Yeah.
There used to be a swimming pool in the White House.
And he turned that into the press briefing room.
Right, right.
And then, look, he put in...
I'd be pissed about that if I were the next president.
Sure.
Well, you know, I mean, I don't know who...
Probably his wife.
What was his wife's name?
You remember?
I was one to say Cynthia, but no, that's the sex of the city.
He was banging her.
It's the worst kept secret in D.C. or whatever was probably.
That Kennedy was just banging hoars in the fricking in the pool.
right yeah I mean it was a new story that came out like 10 years ago
about some new hoe do you think that's why he did it
he was like I'm gonna cover up that dirty dirty boys
why I think his wife might be like I know what
I go these parties I know what I know what
these East Coast elites don't love us but I don't
invite to some parties and I know they were fingering these
assistants down there in the pool no more pool
you're not gonna be swimming with always in the pool
well the president finally I finally get the finger a hole
my dad don't let
Orangefield be sold
so I don't know
it's like yeah I mean
that might be why the coverage
there's also there used to be
I know Nixon put it put in also a bowling alley
right yeah and then famously
I thought he tore that down
to Obama to put his basketball court
but then apparently I mean maybe that
I don't know where that is that in the east
I don't know where they put it
because I someone made a point that
that was like a $200 million it couldn't be
I think they just lied
On all sides
Like Obama's basketball court
Was 200 million
That's crazy if it's true
I'm not surprised
It's just
Seems like too much
Right
For basketball court
But whatever
It doesn't matter
It's true or not
Nothing's real anymore
But you know
So I don't know
I just I know it seems
Like I'm just
Ranting about how I didn't know
And no one else could know
I know
I could have a blind spot
But like they don't teach
This in school really
Unless my schools just sucked
I did go to like
weirdly not grade schools
I went to this Catholic school that, like, I've said before, but, like, if you weren't on, like, the honor roll track, and I never did my homework, and whatever, I mean, it wasn't as smart as them.
I think that wasn't smart, but I was lazy.
Whatever, it doesn't matter.
But if you, they have, like, decent teachers for those people, and if you were, if you had, like, a C average, they would give you, like, retarded people would teach you.
It was weird.
And then this, whatever.
So maybe that's not a blind.
Do they teach you in school at any point?
Um, you, you get certain, like, highlights.
You know, we, the Lincoln bedroom comes up.
Yeah, but that was, wasn't that because, like, they were trying to sell, like, wasn't it under Clinton or something?
They were trying to sell a raffle off, like, raffling off, like, you stay in a Lincoln bedroom.
Oh, right.
There's a whole big controversy.
And then, like, wasn't he banging Lewinsky in there or something?
Who knows?
But, yeah, you're right.
They bring up, that would come up.
Yeah, like, right, the Lincoln bedroom and then, you know, the Oval Office, obviously.
Right.
But, like, but, yeah, like, you don't get a full.
overview. I get it. I've never met a person who was really into the layout of the whole
White House. I mean, it makes sense. I think most teachers know that like, look, we're lucky
if you remember the Bill of Rights. Right. Right. Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to spend
a whole, like, a whole day or two talking about the physical additions and layout of the White
House complex as it were. If they really care, they can look it up on our own. And no of us
did. Right. Because it's just like, why would you emphasize this? But, like, how can just ever really be
that pertinent. Well, weirdly, it is kind of now. I mean, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
Trump's going to do it, and people get mad, and nothing's going to happen. Um, so it doesn't
matter or matter, but like, matters like in a, in a one-day context, kind of. It is an interesting
time to be alive in the sense that, like, you know, everything matters a lot for one day. It's kind
like that Andy Warhol thing, but with topics. Right. You know, like, who would have thought the
physical layout would matter? It doesn't. Um, but yeah, I mean, apparently he's getting from private
Donors, that's part of the gimmick, right?
It's going to cost like $250 million or something to do.
Damn.
A lot of money.
A lot of money.
Did you hear what private donors?
No, I mean, that could be interesting, but also, like, yeah.
I mean, is it donors or is it one?
And this is the one you were talking about last week?
I don't know who.
The one you were saying, you know, which countries you love the most?
I don't know.
I'm just saying, look, at the end of the day, he should be getting something out of this.
I mean, even just for him.
you know what I mean
yeah I mean
what is the downside
well if would this person
I'm trying to speculate here now
I mean should he go through Congress I mean
oh he should go through Congress I agree if he did
if that was the case before
no I don't know like you could
there's weird things of this kind of stuff
sometimes you find you say that and someone says
well no actually because of the uniform
executive edition
real estate additions clause in 1976,
they don't have to.
Oh, okay, I'm a moron now, right?
You try to get into this stuff too deep in the weeds
and everything's designed just make you just go away.
But, you know, but in the general sense, yeah, all right,
I guess Congress should get involved.
But am I more passionate about that fact when it comes to war?
I would say yes, and they don't seem to get involved with that as much.
it seems like with wars they just get to do what they want now with presidents and then like
you know they'll get like a loose approval maybe for some stuff not other stuff
I guess they did approve Iraq but then not Afghan you know whatever some of this stuff gets
approved the drone strikes Obama did again I don't want to keep bringing that up like I mean look
Obama did that I was going to say a lot of good not I don't know if he actually did that much
but I think even if he meant well a lot of drone strikes right and why about keep catching
streets on the come pocket about drone strikes because that's all I know
is that in cash for clunkers
what would you add
to the White House if you were president
what's an interesting question we'll pivot off this
me ranting about
I just don't know what this is
we'll move on
you're right what would I add
to the White House
you're telling me you knew what the White House
I don't believe you you're lying
it's all the sign that makes me look
I'm losing my mind
no you're gonna try to make a fool out of me
you didn't tell everyone
you could have just done everyone else
and quietly kind of to yourself go,
oh, I didn't know that,
and not make a whole podcast episode
about how you didn't know
and no one else could have known.
But what, I did?
That's what I had done?
So, yes, what was your question again?
What would I add?
If you were president, what would you add?
You mean, like, kind of like one of my funding?
It's a good question.
What would you be your basketball court?
Right, yeah.
Like, so Nixon had the bowling alley,
which does seem like a nice thing, right?
You could conceivably, if Gorbachev comes over,
you can both bowl
because there's nothing more weird
than a good bowler anyway
like you know
if someone's really good at bowling
and you're not pro and that's so weird
it's like no one's gonna
you can just kind of bowl
and have a few drinks and it's nice right
versus basketball is kind of like
you know you get fucking played he's like a fool
with basketball
sure he's got you're gonna get crossed over
Obama's crossing over
Z from China
you know that can be really bad for diplomacy
but yes well you know whatever I'm just giving a nod to the bowling alley but what would my thing be
what laser look it's laser laser tags fun laser tag's fun but no people don't seem to um
think there probably will be a president who like puts in a paintball I was thinking paintball yeah
and that could be fun and then also a secret service could train and it's probably he's a problem
I know too much um and that's why I was a pre-president not because of the other reasons I know
too much. But no, but otherwise, I'd definitely get elected, but I know too much. They won't let me.
No, but like, I would just be like, this seems, like, paintball seems like something they could use to somehow stage, like a weird once-in-a-lifetime, quote-unquote, like, you know, a million to one odds, I get shot.
Right.
You know, where like, oh, the paintball was low with a bullet. I don't think that's possible. But somehow, in my case, the paint will have a bullet in it.
It'll work. I know what's like, I know. It's a pain hardened so much that it became.
I mean, that, look, do you say that?
These pepper guns that these ice guys have.
I mean, it's pepper, but it's hardened, and it doesn't feel good.
And I think it's kind of a sense you like a paintball gun.
And this is like a tube and CO2 or something and pushes something.
So, you know, that, you know, someone puts a, there's a funny thing.
Someone puts a ball ball ball barring in there.
You're fucked.
Yeah.
So that's what I don't want to get that is my point.
Um, that's smart.
That's,
you're thinking ahead.
I think,
I think, like,
an old school arcade could be fun.
Oh, yeah.
You know, some pinball,
a, like, a,
Pac-Man machine,
maybe.
I don't love Pac-Man,
honestly,
but, you know,
we love that,
what was the game?
We, like, bubble-bobble?
Oh, oh, right.
Bust-a-moove is fun.
That could be a fun thing to add.
You know, that way, you know,
like,
some idiot,
whatever,
playing an arcade.
Shut up.
That's what I would say.
Nice kids.
Go, take in the arcade.
I'm not dealing with your kids all day.
We're here to talk about
whether you're fighting,
let me fire missiles from your country.
I'm not having your kids in the room.
It's in the arcades.
Why it's there?
I never get to go,
so I'm too busy as the president.
But yeah, it could be fun, right?
Like a nice, like a,
whatever, and maybe a little laser tag.
Right.
Could they put a gravitron in the basement in the White House?
What's a gravitron again?
Or the wand.
The gravitron was.
that like thing at the carnivals
I don't think they have them at like six flags
type things they might sometimes
have them as fixed theme parks but they're
more of like when you have like a church carnival or whatever
or town thing it's the one that's like
a like it looks like a UFO almost
if I remember and it spins around
yeah this is it yeah put a picture up
oh man kids get decapitated
in these all the time well hold on
no that's not that's not it oh no
the grabatron
the one not the that's the different thing
okay on the bottom left what's the one
the enclosed thing.
Yeah, that's a gravitor.
It looks like a fucking strip.
You still might be able
to get decapitated in anything.
But this is more like
you go inside of it
and it's...
It's so funny about it.
It first made your scandal
that you put a gravitron
in the White House
and it gets decapitated by it.
Well, you get the capitated
in anything.
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You get the captain playing bowling.
No one says playing bowling, by the way.
Interesting.
But, yeah, no, the idea of this, this fun ride, I loved it, honestly, is that, like, it spins around really fast.
You go inside and there's a kind of vinyl panels on the wall, and it starts spinning around, and you kind of, I don't think you even belt into it.
Do you belt in when you go on Gravitron?
I think you just start spinning around gradually gets faster and faster, and the gravity, like, the force sticks you to the sides.
Right.
And it starts going crazy, and you're just stuck.
you're stuck to the side
and somehow gravity fails
I don't think it's physically possible
there's a motor fails you're fucked
if it stops spinning all of a sudden
I guess you can go flying or fall
that's probably where people could get injured
right um
I was asked them to double
I mean a lot of these things
these things are run by like the
I don't know I've never met the people
who work at carnivals honestly
they say carnies right
all these people are all carnies I mean
it might be true I just can't vouch for that
how the dumbest people you ever met
but that's the that's a
Right? Yeah, the Carney stereotype. Right. Even to the day, people seem to look down on people who work these machines and yet people don't tend to die. Yeah. So if I have the White House engineering where the Army Corps of engineers just give it once over, I think I'm fine. Yeah. Probably, right? Airplanes don't just fall out of the sky. Why would the motor of this thing stop working just because, you know, some like, you know, the mirror of Qatar is in there. I'll tell you why.
You know why.
Yeah.
That's why.
It would be an arcade.
Maybe I don't put all my eggs in the best.
Maybe a small amusement park type thing.
Why not just turn it into a carnival that you can't go into?
It's only for the people who work in the White House and the people we like.
And I think I have the job already on the president.
And my friends and my boys.
It's really, it's like it is an American thing, right?
I guess we do it a lot.
Because I'm saying, like, you know, you win, it's supposed to be kind of like, well, you won, but, you know, you're not supposed to, like, glow about it and be like, you know, and we're getting all the perks, right?
Like, it's not supposed to be Tamney Hall where then we win the election and we, and we hand, we dole out the jobs and the, you know, the grift.
No, it is, like, a lot of politics is that, but it's not supposed to be, you know, highlight it.
It's not good for society, probably, if you make the front and center.
But that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
Like, if I'm, if I'm a run as a Democrat was just there.
I'll say a Republican.
People always call me a little, you know, S.J.W.
I'm not.
But, you know, I'm a Republican.
I mean, not what Democrats is in my, in my little theme park.
Unless they vote on bills I like.
Like, hey, hey, uh, was this name, Federman?
Hey, John Fetterman, yeah.
I'll give you more incentive to vote for a lot of poison inside,
poison, poison, poison apples.
If I can go my theme park.
You know, so it's nice.
It's a thing because people could,
Remember people were freaking out about like the Eminems, the White House Eminems at one point
and how they were given to people's like kind of social credit?
No, I didn't hear about this.
I remember reading about this where it was like it became this kind of thing on Instagram.
Oh, presidential M&M.
I think this like was a thing in the first Trump administration.
People, it was probably, look, I think they really, Trump is a divisive, he likes to make bold moves.
But I do think a lot of stuff ends up being stuff that like was always, because I don't
I don't think he invented them M&Ms.
They were out for years, right?
These White House, but they look at the presidential M&Ms.
But people are freaking out because, like, well, they would only give them the people,
the people who curry political favor.
This is it, yeah.
I couldn't, I mean, I would never think to think, like, if I was a guy who worked
at the White House, right, where I got to visit because I was part of some podcast that,
you know, interviewed, whatever.
I would never think to go, hey, can I get a pack of those, as M&Ms that you guys
heard you guys make?
To me, it just seems like, it's like one of those things you hear about and
school where it's like yeah they even make them for the president it's like a stupid gimmick
that like a corporation does probably and no one no one actually cares but it's a nice thing
but this became a thing because of instagram people like to show it like i got i have access
i have the m&ms it seemed bizarre to me i never even think to ask it for him or or being it's cool
i mean sometimes you keep like a like a security key from a hotel when you run a vacation just
a little memento but i'm always about to throw those out like why am i keep you
it's like it's like that but that's my point and if that could cause a stir
imagine uh being having me owning you know besides being president controlling this white
house dean park that you you know because everyone's got kids in this world
at the birth rate well we have all successful people seem to have kids it seems to something
you do it's like the thing in the power they would bald with like have some kids
people don't know you're gay or something shit right um and it's see you would think you don't
care. I think it is all performative because the whole
I thought the gimmick was that people, these powerful people
don't care about their kids. They're all too busy,
right? This is why
fucking Katz and the Craigle is a song.
That's not written about some guy who, you know, some
grave digger. That guy's around.
You know? That guy is.
Yeah, that song's about a mover and a shaker.
Yeah. The grave digger shows up to your
ball, little game. You know, he shows up to
your recital. It's a, you know, it's a vice
it's the congressman. It's the
staff or the White House who says, hey,
you know what? There'll be a lot of
the league games that I'm going to miss
so let's not start a precedent here
you know I got an important job you're part of my
life you're not my whole life
you know the grave digger's like no let's hang out
more and you don't want that
I mean the other thing people complain
is cast in the cradle thing do you want your dad to be
the grave digger that's really
the question people don't really ask
that they think it's all my dad
loves me and kisses me and hugs me
but that you have it
and not like you know
cool clothes
your life sucks
no one else is going to tell you that
but me maybe a bunch of people
they didn't tell me that as a kid
right oh you anything you want but make sure you have nice clothes
or your life will suck
people will not look inside you
I'm not against your will
look inside me
but no they'll treat you like trash if you're not
if you're not you know don't have the trappings
right
right yeah apparently this is stored under Reagan
by the way well the beans
the magic beans
yeah yeah so whatever i mean i think it started under freaking you know george washington some some weird
corporo oligarcho techno fascist started it they all are don't not just frigin he was weird though
i love how his big move was like i'm gonna fire all the friggin's the airfactor reunion guys
and was like yeah is that is that what adam smith was leading with we this is how we this is that
we reboot the economy we we say fucking we're gonna pay you 10 000 an hour to fucking make sure people don't
fall in the sky and you question it will kill
you. I mean I'm
saying everything that was wrong but
they can bring that up a lot. My dad
would tell me that. I said like he
they all bite chicken and he won
like it was some great thing. I'm like
I get it. I get there's
a reason where they probably shouldn't have
strike and maybe there was actually
unpaid. I know I couldn't strike when I was
in a union at the morgue technically
I guess there's a similar thing because you have public safety issue
but like it still seems like a weird thing
to brag about. It's unfortunate they really
they really just weren't getting paid enough or
something. Right. Yeah, and they
do get like, you know, to this day, I think
they get worked pretty long hours. Like, it's...
Yeah, I mean, I'm not here with the fiddle
for the... I don't know anything about these guys.
I just feel like, you know, I get it. I was fed
stories my whole life about, like, you know,
the auto worker unions, like, you know,
you could... They would have four guys
doing the job of one guy, and it'll be
at the bar, banging some girl,
and then the only guy would be stuck working,
but he gets to do it the next day. And, like,
There's a fucking bucking out.
I was like, all right.
Yeah.
I guess you, but then it does seem like a lot of our problems come from,
it's like it's a pendulum.
I get that sometimes they have too much, you know,
oh, I want to live in a right to work state.
Fuck union.
It's like, I made a lot more money when I got into a union.
Right.
Like, it's the same job.
It does seem to work sometimes.
I don't know.
Like, it's, it just seems like when, you know, we have like the bill,
you know, the most powerful, the richest man in America is a Chinese guy who was in Shanghai.
not true what we're saying like there's a lot of wealth amongst people all the
wealth is all by people who don't care about this country at all and I don't think
a solution is not have a union I think and whatever I'm not an economist but yeah
Reagan right sorry and I was the side but yeah he but he mentioned the M&Ms what
would you I want to know what would your addition to the White House be um I well I was
thinking a petting zoo petting zoo could be cool well let's not just well past that that's
actually a really cool idea.
I mean, you know, it would be the best petting zoo.
Why, you still get, like illegal things?
Yeah, right, exactly.
Things that are just illegal everywhere else.
That's actually, look, that's great.
Because you don't, yes.
Let's use this unhinged power for some good.
Well, yeah, you can, you know, they can make an embassy.
Like, we're in America, right?
And so America's sovereign nation.
It's all important.
But when we decide to, that's China.
Right.
Because the embassy, right?
And all the other country.
I guess it's international convention, whatever.
it needs to have.
But then you have that power, is my point.
So you can probably also say, well, this is animal law doesn't apply in this
sector of the White House.
And the thing that's great about animals is that, like, most animals,
no matter how dangerous they are as adults, they're very, like, they're cute as
babies.
This is a great point.
So you just keep perpetual baby tigers, you switch them out when they get too old,
when they get too dangerous.
This is a great point.
Yeah.
And also, because I remember I remember being fascinated by hearing by the food in the White House at one point.
It's what relates to that.
And it's because it's weird.
Trump loves to eat, but they don't emphasize any of this.
But there was that movie The Contender, where Jeff Daniels was the president and trying to get Joan Allen, I think, to be the first female vice president.
And he just keeps going, they make me these shark-sake sandwiches, you want one?
They make them all the time.
I mean, you can, like, the person can reason, I guess, have anything.
Right.
And part of that is because, and why it's the release of this, I think the logic besides just, well, he's the, the,
facto the king and he you know whatever it's not it's not proper but more so it's just him and
the people around him you don't think it was not a restaurant that has to serve people you know
thousands of people and like and be profitable it just do all and the same thing where your petting zoo
petting zoo is have to operate on some condition of well we can't just keep getting rid of the babies
every three months how could that but it's a white house right so you kind of can because you could
just like you just declare this is this now goes to yosemite or something this
vicious spider
So you could just have
It could be a
Just have babies
Right
So yeah
That we were envisioned like a baby
A baby petting zoo
Right yeah
I mean obviously some of them
Could be allowed to grow up
Right
You know like it's
You know I'd love to have a red panda in there
That means
The Central Park Zoo has that
We better get that
Yeah
If you become president
I'll be the first lady
Whatever they call it
Whatever Doug Adam Hoffer's gonna be
And I'll make that my thing
For you
Well, you get to pick it, but someone's trying to tell me, no, no, we're going to have 15 red pandas, and they're going to be the butlers.
Like, that's already, that's already a thing.
And if you don't know, red panders are like, maybe you can pull a picture up for them.
It's not what you think.
Well, again, I keep saying that a lot of these facts people might know, and they go, no, you're an idiot.
We know this.
Here we go.
They're the best animal in the world.
But look at this.
Yeah, we know what they have in Central Park Zoo.
Look at how cute is.
It's a little tiny teddy bear.
They're amazing.
I don't even know how it's a panda.
I don't think people name things properly anymore.
Like, I mean, I get they may be related, but that can't be a panda.
That and a panda bear can't be the same thing.
Look at that.
It's like a fox.
That's going to be at the White House.
It's going to be so amazing.
And that's not even part of the zoo.
Like, that's, that's legal.
If the Central Park Zoo can do that,
then we can just put those everywhere in the White House.
Right.
So, like, that's, like, I'm yelling.
I'm screaming.
There's, like, interns and, like, people who work for the zoo.
I'm screaming.
And then I also have the other staff of the White House president.
You understand.
But we're saying that's otherwise illegal.
and just petting zoo.
This is, this is, this is just the, the appetizer.
This is going to be interested in our illegal petting zoo is that we have these lying
around.
That's how commonplace red pandas will be in the White House.
Right.
Yeah, it'll, it'll start like, you know, they're going to be in this wing or, or that
wing, whatever.
Right.
But eventually, like, you know, people, people, people forget about the story.
The rules start loosening up.
I'm going to lose people here.
I don't want to lose people.
I don't want this to happen.
This is the way it always goes.
You're going to start dying.
Because it's become so lax.
You know what you know how it has just becomes like an exotic quarter's house?
What's this thing?
When you have like, it has to be here at a certain time.
They come in and out at a certain time.
And then, you know, your job is to make sure that this red pan
and shows are back in this pen, the backstage pen, right?
Whatever we call it.
But, you know, like the one, this is a show pen.
And we have people coming in.
And then when you're done, they come back here.
and there's no wally gagging, right?
That panda stay alive in that environment.
Right.
But I'm like, no, they just like, I wasn't lying about.
So when they walk through, I go, I want to be a surprise
the way a cat can be a surprise to someone's house.
Right.
Oh, the cat's here.
Nice.
But it's a panda.
And that kind of environment, you inherently have to lower the standards of what people
knowing where they are.
They get stepped on maybe.
Right.
They make their way into the furnace.
You know, I don't know.
Like, they forget to eat.
Right, yeah, things happen.
It's hard to keep track of when they're eating or not eating.
It's a big place.
Yeah, no, it's a big, we're establishing.
The White House has the whole complex, you know, I didn't even know the Eastwood
existed.
It's going to stink.
It's going to stink like shit.
That's the thing.
Maybe that's the only saving grace is that I don't like smells.
I don't like this, I don't like this smell like shit.
So I'll be like, it will just make them hate me more.
But I'll be like, look, all this, all the laissez-faire of bread pandas, but you better
I better never smell it.
Well, I was going to, no.
So they'll have to kind of be, like, waiting, like, ninjas with, like, those fucking smell detectors
and shit, make sure, you know, and they're just cleaning a shit up right away.
Piss and shit.
I mean, they probably piss and shit a lot.
They're bears.
I mean, they're small, but just.
Oh, yeah, I mean, we're going to have all the animals.
Right.
That's the right pan.
I mean, yeah.
I don't think anything else would be lying about, though, right?
The rest of it will be in, in, I guess, the.
wing, right?
This might need to get split up
between the West and East
wing, to be honest.
Not the resident.
So, like, oh, so you show
out, I, all right, so you,
we're going to have people coming, like, the granddaughter,
like, some fucking congressman from Wisconsin
is going to, like, be the swing vote for some
fucking, like, you know, we want to make cancer illegal
or something. So we fucking need him
to vote, and you're like, hey, why don't you bring
your grandkids? Oh, I do have
grandkids. Well, why don't you bring them down with their
parents, I guess they're appropriate parents,
where you can bring them yourself
I'll always be awkward even
as a president
I guess in this case I'm you're I'm the
president's wife but whatever
but I handle these things
why did you come bring them and
you know so it's not like you know
and so these people who don't really know
the White House grounds that well
like you have to come and like well
have a map
this is a shitty map we print that out
how do I see the alligators
well that's in the West that's near the West
wing, and they have to travel through the residency or something.
I don't know how this works.
It's going to become a real problem.
Oh, that's amazing.
What, you know, can you give me, like, five things that would be, like, five best
attractions at your baby pettings?
I mean, you've got to have a baby elephant.
Holy shit.
So we're getting, we're getting real here.
Yeah.
We're going to have biggest and smallest.
Look, I, this is actually you're, all right.
Baby elephant, baby birds.
I'm not having too much to say
So name your five
And then I'm gonna circle back on that
All right, we got a baby elephant
Yeah
We got a baby baby peacock
Okay
Um
We got a baby
We got a baby tiger
A baby lion
Oh my god
Baby bear
These are these are
You name the fight
I guess
This is what you would not
Is a reason or illegal
And like
He's a problem
I was talking a lot of shit
About how we can be
I was gonna go that
It's gonna be a scandal
I'm being saying this to Congress.
I got to be honest
Mr. Senator.
I don't want,
I don't envision myself
being at this hearing.
But I talked a lot of shit
leading up to this petting zoo.
I forgot and I,
because we can just,
I assume that the,
you know,
the various natural parks
that we have
and subjugated zoos.
Excuse me,
what is that?
Subjugated zoos?
What does that mean?
I'm not sure.
Smaller zoos,
we can kind of strong arm,
you know,
to take our shit.
Could we could make it
so that we could basically
keep this baby shit going, right?
The cycle of babies.
But I failed to think that my wife was,
and it's a prerogative to pick baby elephant
is the first thing, which is like,
where do you even get elephants?
I don't think we have national parks
that take elephants.
So we're just, I think we end up killing,
I don't want, even if I don't want to think about it.
I want to say, even on a YouTube video or podcasts,
I'll just say, that we can't, we execute a lot of elephants.
Because where else would they go?
It's like when you put down an animal,
like, well, if it's just a suffer, it's got rabies.
Where do they go when they're on a farm?
They don't be on our elephants don't be on farms.
What?
There's no elephants on farms?
I mean, where would they do?
I mean, I guess that would be a heavy-duty plow.
That would be one hell of a plow.
I mean, if you're, if England, for instance, had elephants to pull plows for them,
that would be a lot of corn they could make.
That might have been made the Industrial Revolution happening quicker.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But, I mean, I don't think there aren't farms.
I don't think, I mean, it would be funny if we said, hey, we're going to can't, we're going to be, we, I like to think we're good people.
We have to be just the most strong armed presidential couple that will live.
Just to make this, yeah.
Right, it's always comes from it.
We're going to waste all our political capital on this.
I don't even think it's not political capital.
We're going to literally, the, the threat of the military force on civilians will they have to be used in some cases.
it goes to be on political capital
we have to tell farmers
look
uh you ethanol subsidies right
there's like always a controversial thing
right
ethanol we know we we buy your corn
and make ethanol and no one really likes ethanol
but like you know
it's good because you get paid off
it's like we're gonna take it away
and we're also going
we're gonna burn some of your fields
when you're not looking
if you don't fucking take these elephants
everyone takes an you know
every acre every extra amount of acres
gets an elephant
and you take it on, right?
And it's just part of it.
And you can maybe use them to grow corn.
How do we do that?
I don't know.
Figure it out.
They're big animal.
They're powerful.
Look, I mean, you know, when I was bringing up the farm before, I was kind of implying, it's a sensitive subject.
Sure.
But like, you know.
Oh, that's a euphemism.
Maybe you use them for meat.
Oh, okay.
Self-sustaining.
But this is an interesting thing.
You know, this is like, I'm basically going to pitch this as a contemporary Garden of Eden.
Sure, that's how you're going to pitch it.
But I'm going to be in this weird, thankless role where, like, I have to explain, you know,
these things don't tend to get expressly stated.
That's the whole point.
It's plausible liability.
So I didn't want to ask my wife what exactly she means because she has to tell them why she has to lie to you guys.
So I thought she meant that we have to fucking force eat on the corn farms and they figure it out.
but she actually meant we should eat the elephants which I didn't realize that's interesting though
I mean why is this such the case that people don't do that eat elephants I think they're probably
pretty tough they're all doing injured right but I feel like a lot of the things that make a thing
tough is that the thing it moves the thing um is is the tough thing the muscle that builds right
No, so, like, you know, an elephant's leg is so big that the part of the leg is close to the thing that moves the leg, the joint.
But, like, also, like, a lot of, maybe a lot of relatively tender meat because it's just moving, it's the part that's not the muscle moving that leg.
I really don't know how muscles work.
I'm assuming this is true, but, like, you know, maybe you get a lot of tender meat.
Also, we'll tell people, at least.
Yeah.
This is going to be substance.
This is going to become, why not give us the prisons?
I mean I've tasted present food it's horrible
Right
It's too much sodium
Yeah like if they were given some elephant meat
Like elephant steaks
No it'd be so they're eating like the stuff
Where I think it's certain about a sawdust
It's mixed in with a quote unquote ground beef
You're right?
It's like it's weird like
What they call it like particles or something
It's some kind of weird like fucking things
It's not literally cardboard but it's some kind of weird
I forget
It's almost like styrofoam
But it's food
technically it's like it was wherever it meant me useful or something oh like Cillium husk type
type type things you know cellulose and stuff like that cellulods you get elephant stakes
you know that's actually not a bad idea and it'll be a demand for it then
that's the only thing people they stay endangered is that there's no demand for something you
know right like if it yeah that's true when people eat beef is never going to extinct
you probably think about it for a second it's never
your mind
you could argue that their lives are constant
agony but
they were telling you that
no no
if the cat over said that to you
no I guess I guess not
that's a loophole
I mean it really is
I mean I'm not
I don't want to did this
I mean that seems
if a cow could tell you I'm in a lot of pain
I feel like we wouldn't eat at less
that does seem to be like the color off mark
but you know whatever
point is
this is how we save elephants
right and we can become
overrun with elephants perhaps
I don't you know
there's going to be giant ships coming into the harbor
every every day
we're going to like import so many elephants
I guess from Africa
this is going to be a disaster
I mean the pandas have a problem
breathing right
yeah they don't breathe
I don't know why they can't just like
artificially inseminate them
you tell me they can't make a machine
that go like the Sibian thing
that's Howard Stern invented
right that thing is
it on with a with a with a I don't sure
you know the device it goes inside you
they can't make that for a panda
Howard Stern was able to invent it he's like a radio jockey
that shock shock I mean walking the government
for the panda thing
whatever yeah you think that with our technology
we would be able to inseminate just about anything by now
that really should be our campaign slogan
right we can we're not the smartest we're not the
we're not the best shape
we know our kids are dumb
we don't we don't make good science anymore
and crops suck and people have cancer
we can't say anything
you will
you use you show us a hole
we'll fill it
you know
what's the word ethically
we ethically fill a whole hole
so I want to make that clear
otherwise it might sound like something else
right
and what you mean ethically
why just want to make sure
they don't think we're doing that thing
like this is a weird thing
to be a weird thing
to brag about
I agree
but it's a wild time
so you know
that covers
ethically fill all holes
there's a t-shirt
yeah
I mean look
this is the
I'm going to bring this back up
this is a red bag
and look at that little
lazy panda
I love it
amazing
do you have any idea
what your policies
would be as president
oh god
I know
this is this is it
this is a policy
this is
I mean this would be
so much about
we just want that
well we should at least
I mean I'm saying that
I feel like we're getting rid of your stage
and this is probably my point
I think this actually is kind of
a thing like similar to what I'm talking about
with Jeremy Allen White, the genius
the resident genius you know
he should is either
is there a resident genius in America
there should be
they should because honestly
we've been like a genius laureate
right because I know and we haven't had that
before I feel like we didn't need it
because we did have legitimate geniuses
who made stuff and invented
this stuff and but now if that's going to be if it's going to be the case where we're kind of
dumbing down the country on purpose with Jeremy Allen white um we should maybe make him
the first genius lawyer just so established so people don't get the twist that he's just a
particularly dumb guy right we need to make sure that this is across the board now this applies
to everyone he's he's not just a genius he would like have he's the genius and maybe we'll
probably need one other guy who looks kind of like him to be the next genius and then you know
We can stop talking about it
after that.
But the point is
this thing with like
they want
We're talking so much about
the East Wing and this and that
and Trump's did he dropped a big
turd on
Harry Sisson, right? He made an AI video
and it was and people like
it, right? Do you have that by the way real quick?
Oh.
It doesn't matter. It's fine.
He made a little Democratic kid who gets paid by the DNC or whatever to make YouTube videos or whatever were Snapchat's and Trump
Is this the kid who's kind of a player?
I don't think he's a player.
Well, maybe, I don't know.
Point is, a lot of people know who you're a hairy system, but if you don't know, and Trump didn't like, you know, whatever, he made a video or someone made a video he retweeted where he's flying a fighter jet and drops just shit, not just on him, but like he's part of a whole bunch of people.
Was it a no king's thing maybe?
He's a no king's protest.
I think there's no king's protest
led by Harry's just in this
environment
in fantasy world
and Trump just in a fire jet
dropping
fire jets you just don't drop a lot of bombs
I didn't think it's more of you shoot forward other planes
but whatever you know
he's dropping just gallons of shit
I mean thousands of gallons of shit
oh wow and it's just like you know
we do have
I mean look
do we have this thing we show
I won't be I want to end with this
because this is a i like jeff daniels i watched them on the newsroom on hbio which is an insane show
but i thought he was good in it you a couple years ago got me uh for a bunch of years ago actually
tickets to a broadway where he played uh to kill a mackenberg for my birthday yeah it was great
great great actor uh and he got something to say about this video i'm talking about with the
with the shit and the fire shed and harry sis and let's just pull this up for a moment um
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where he was flying with the crown
and the, you know,
spewing or excrement all over
the people down below. The country,
America. Yeah, I tried it. Would Lincoln
have done that?
It's an interesting question.
I don't think Nixon would have done it.
She's trying to save it and go,
well, I don't think. And maybe I'm
crazy here. But if all
things, I still think that's the craziest
thing I've ever heard in my life.
So you look like, we live in a reality where Trump, the president, we don't know what Trump's doing.
You know, it's all wild shit.
And he's dropping shit.
And I think it's hilarious that he's dropping the shit in the kid.
Like, oh, this is not the thing we, this is not the thing we care about.
It's like, it's either going to end well or not, but it's not going to be because of Harry's sister's shit video.
But to look at that and go, would Lincoln do this?
It's perhaps the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Would Lincoln make an AI video of himself dropping shit on Harry Sisson and a number of protesters?
I don't, in a fighter jet.
Would Lincoln be doing, would Lincoln have done this?
Yeah, I don't know.
These people, look, there's a lot going on with the presidency.
It's a very different time.
It's very divisive, like the immigration stuff.
And it's back and forward.
Like, I mean, you go, I got to use immigration is a problem?
Also, like, is it being handled ethically?
And he's the legitimate questions.
And people go, and they're not saying, you know, there's a lot of, you know, bad faith
arguing back and forth.
And, but it's a very divisive time.
It just seems crazy.
And, like, these people, like, on the left, you know, he's Democratic, go, no,
it's like they call him the liberal fascist, literal Hitler, and I only gets helpful or accurately.
I mean, it's not, it's not, it's whatever.
Like, you can't just call everything that, like, whatever.
I'm going to explain myself on this.
Point is, but, you know, but they act like it's like, you know,
this might be your last election if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you get elected.
And so I'm not saying that, but if you're saying that and then this is your, but then this is how you react.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's like, it's like I go on.
Look, I know it's all bullshit.
Like, you can't see Lincoln doing this.
It's going on.
It's a guy who would tell you, this is the end of democracy.
And by the way, it's a video where he dropped shit out of a fighter.
on to Harry Sisson, the influencer
whose paper, would Lincoln have done this?
Like, you know, it's just, I'm like, am I expressing this right?
This is just the craziest idea of this.
I don't know what happens to these people's heads.
Like, if you think that the democracy is on the ropes,
you wouldn't care at all of it.
This is not the thing you would talk about.
You wouldn't, like, you know what I mean?
And like, this doesn't seem to be the high stakes issue at hand.
You know, I would think maybe the, you have.
problem with ice raids.
You know, and maybe, you would say, like, why are they wearing a mask?
And someone might go, well, they've been wearing a mask forever.
But that kind of discussion, right?
Right.
And they go, you know, like, again, they have authority, but, you know, people don't know
if they're cops, they're kidnapping them, and they're going, well, yeah, but they won't
let them, well, they won't let them arrest them at the court house.
Like Obama did, because it's the secretary of cities.
It's a debate, right, about important issues.
You're dropping the shit.
With Lincoln have dropped the shit on the Harry's system?
It just seems like a...
Yeah, I mean, in a...
way it is like in a way it's
I guess it is an appropriate question just because
merely asking the question at this
point is so absurd
that it does kind of like highlight how
crazy it's all become
but it's like yeah
but it's strange like he's still like
he's still in the mode of like
how you might talk about
like Bush term one or something
right yeah
you know where things are where things
still were comparable
right yeah I think what's happened is
in a lot of ways, it's like,
and the Trump is definitely the spearhead of it,
but I think other people, you know,
the Democrats have tried to, like,
keep up in their own way and weird ways.
And it's just like,
it's a lot of shit posting in real life.
And online, of course.
And it's just a vibe now.
So, yeah, I mean, of course,
no, I don't think I think Lincoln would have done this.
I want to make that very clear.
I don't want to skirt the issue here.
I don't think Lincoln would have done this.
Mm-hmm.
It's just, I mean,
did you ask that about the immigration?
It's not.
If you said, hey, these guys are coming and they're wearing a mask and a van and it doesn't
say ice on it, right?
And so people don't know.
Now, that also leaves that, by the way, you know, people are also following these vans around
so they know.
And then they're going, no, we can't take people.
So someone, they know their feds because they're following the van around.
But whatever.
I'm just saying, it's a complicated issue.
But he's just, Jeff Daniels is saying this to you.
We go, would Lincoln like this complicated issue?
with Lincoln
of having the
Unmarked van
with Lincoln
like the bang bus
I don't know
Lincoln when
Lincoln
not like Eisenhower
not like Nixon
and she brings up Nixon
she even like
what the fuck are you talking about
now and you go
and maybe I make it
quite clear
I'm going to watch this
here's the thing
is there is a song
is this the song
we interviewed
Joan Baez
for the Best People
Podcasts
we asked her
is the same thing
the movements in the 60s and she said you know what is that the same girl from before yeah okay
yeah so this is how he ends in your view or whatever that's the things but one of them we had each
other and we had the music on saturday seven million americans found each other at the no king's
protest and today thanks to jeff daniels we've got the music this is a song called i wrote
crazy world okay let's hear i've seen a young girl smiling
something he just said.
I watched him fall into her pretty green eyes.
His cheeks turned Valentine red.
He's asking, he's the Ricky Jervase thing
when he's thinking about President Diana.
He's looking over, like, that's good, yeah?
Yeah, it's just like, so if it seems like,
well, I think you're extrapolating, right?
So he wasn't, you know, but no, this is what he thinks
is you, if we're actually, like,
if we're about the collapse,
into tyranny.
I don't,
I just,
it's a cognitive dissonance
going on.
This was literally
connected,
this anchor,
just connected what's
happening here
to some of the best music
of the 60s.
Like,
some of the best protest
I didn't think
on that level.
You're right so narcissistic.
I'm basically jump biased.
I don't know if you know
what John bias is,
but yeah,
I'm basically her.
Remember times they are changing?
Right.
Well, why don't you listen to this?
Yeah.
And you want that new sound
will listen.
But no,
but it's just like,
I mean, like, look, the protest is called no can.
I didn't think no king is a dumb name, but girls are being, like, it sounds like, it just sounds
dumb, but like, I get the sentence that you're trying to do, and you think that, or you think
that, right?
And I don't think people are crazy to be kind of concerned about, like, you know, the encroachment
of whatever.
I think norms are being shifted.
Well, you're like, and some, look, and you could argue that, like, certain norms are
part of, like, entrenched power.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe. I mean, I could buy that more and tell me when you see, like, what?
Whatever, but another point of conversation.
The point is that if you believe that,
and then this, I mean, I don't know.
It just seems like this is, it's a very, like,
this is we being, is this kind of like,
is he the Jeremy Allen White for boomers?
You know?
I mean, this all just makes more sense
when you realize that the people watching this
are like lying in a hospital bed.
Right.
Their kids aren't there.
That is the only time I ever see, like,
I remember the last time I watched like network news
or one of the time I remember,
it was like my grandma dying.
Right.
And they were like, I literally said it like, I literally said out loud,
who watches network news anymore?
This is so bad.
It's just, I'm like, and she wasn't the good grandma.
It's fine.
But yeah, so I don't know.
It's a very fun time.
Can we listen to a little bit more of this?
I just, I don't.
This is the worst thing I've ever.
Yeah, well, yeah, because it's this way we can just kind of cut it off because it might, yeah.
but
I've seen an old man walking
with his wife by his side
I watched him reach down
take her hand
damned if I didn't cry
it's so bad
he's like he's like an okay guitar player
Yeah.
But, like, it's just so insipid.
It's just so, like, he thinks it's going to heal work.
Like, there's a lot of, I mean, you know,
fucking Steve Bannon's like, I don't know what,
on what thing was watching interview.
He's talking about it's going to be a third term for Trump.
And he's like, what you mean third term?
Like, well, I don't know.
When the time comes, we'll see what happens.
Which just seems ominous.
I don't know.
He said something like, we'll figure out the wording.
And what do you mean wording?
But I don't know.
I don't know.
that's happening
I saw an old man breathing
I mean I look at FDR had four terms we did pass
an amendment because of it so it's like but it's not
like fundamentally like at the end of the world you would
think but like we know I know it's a constitutional amendment we're gonna do it
you say don't worry about and he's fucking
I don't know it just seems like this is not we're on different
maybe it doesn't matter maybe it's all fake is my point
which I don't want to do that I don't want to
be the guy who like every time you know oh you're excusing every norm trumps whatever i don't want
i like to not be like anyone's anyone's goon right but these are gonna be people who like
this is the end this is the end and you're gonna sing like you know i watch the old man it's pretty good
right i'm like july it's insanity anyway we're a man with that country until you get elected
And then we're going to be every country.
We're going to be the elephant country.
We're going to have to start wearing elephant clothes.
I have to start making like hoodies out of elephant.
We'll be the first furries in the White House.
Oh, God.
That's going to be our legacy.
They always go with the worst thing you do.
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