Kump - Ep. 235 KUMP Haloween Special

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

It’s the KUMP Halloween Special — Ray and Lucie are dressed as demonic saints invoking the Blood of the Lamb to protect themselves from ghouls, discuss the origins of the holiday, their own Hallow...een horrors, and much more.🎧 Subscribe on Patreon for bonus episodes every week:⁠patreon.com/raykump

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Starting point is 00:00:22 19 plus Ontario only. Please play responsibly. Concerned by your gambling or that if someone close, you call 1866-3-3-1-2-60 or visit comixonterio.ca. Welcome to Kump. It is All Hallows Eve, Halloween, the Halloween day of the year. Welcome, Lucy. Welcome. To this spooky day. And before we get into our festivities, we're all dressed up.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We're dressed up like demons and God. What am I? I'm some kind of pumpkin demon. You're a pumpkin ghost. I'm a pumpkin witch, peacock, and you're some Montigra wench. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And then we're just, I want to give a, I want to invoke a prayer to protect us from the, from the wickedness and snares of the devil. So let's just bow our head. Dear Lord, Jesus Christ, Christ, please invoke the lamb. You're the lamb, invoke the lamb's blood. Spill that blood right all over us. Just cut the lamb's throat. Let that blood just drench us.
Starting point is 00:01:28 please protect us from these ghouls, these goblins, these wicked children with their snares. The children of the devil, as you've always said, let your lamb's blood and the mutton, the blessed mutton, just pour all over us, drench us, and give us your, give us your, just give us everything. Save us from the Babadukes. Babadukes, Apache Mamas. And all the, all the postpartum metaphors. All those whip post-partum women with bodies that kind of fill apart and they're depressed about it
Starting point is 00:02:02 and don't let them hurt their babies You know, they're sad because their husband comes home and he goes, eh And that's not what it used to be, huh? It's not their fault. Don't let them hurt the babies. All right? The babies didn't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Just protect me, my wife. What's wrong? Come on. What do I do? What do I do? It's not yet. What's the skin? are yours. You're the old
Starting point is 00:02:28 encompassing Christ. You can't help you out? All right. Love you. Bye. Amen. T-G-Y-L. Yeah. What's that mean again? I'll talk you later. Yeah. Peace out. Yeah. It's a day of invoked. It's because, yeah, we'll talk about what Halloween is. I guess we'll get to us to do. It's a holiday.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We'll get to this earlier than usual. Please subscribe. Look at us. We're dressed like ghouls. Just subscribe to the show in every format that exists on. Just get it everywhere, notification bell. So, you know, imagine if you, you'll be seeing this tomorrow, you feel like a fool because you'd have notification bells on and go, oh, it's not Halloween anymore. I can still listen, I should, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, but you could have taken part. You could, you could have done a drinking game with us. We're doing a Halloween drinking game. Yeah. Every time, every time I invoke, you think it's not losing. Every time you scream at somebody having a holiday party in the hallway. You know what? I don't want to, because they'll sue me.
Starting point is 00:03:27 The parents will sue me when you die of alcohol poisoning. I don't think they don't have to do drinking games on, you know, officially. I think it's supposed to be on the L, you know, so some kid dies ain't my problem. You're not supposed to, yeah, you're not supposed to peer pressure. Don't drink. Don't do it. This is a blood, God. You know, Patreon.com slash rate comment for an extra episode every week.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It's the only way to get that. So, yeah. Save your soul. Mm-hmm. Save the whole. So where is Halloween come from? We all know it is What is it?
Starting point is 00:04:02 November 1st is all saints day It's the day of saints And And therefore they made this thing Like we got we got everyone You know the church ran it Don't forget the church ran everything Back in the Middle Ages right
Starting point is 00:04:16 The church was like your Was like Walmart But also you know Raytheon and then Palantir They had a monopoly They had monopoly on everything and knowledge. And they were like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:28 November 1st? Because the day of all saints, right? The day of blessed saints. We got St. Francis. This is the animal guy. We got, uh, what else we got? We got friggin. St. Lucy.
Starting point is 00:04:40 St. Lucy. Which one was St. Lucy? She's the one who, uh, she's actually very Halloween. Yeah? Because, because she actually, she took her eyes out, her own eyes out. There were some pagan prince or something who wanted to marry her. Oh, right. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 her all pagan and she and because she had beautiful eyes or something right and so she poked out her eyes and she gave them to him on a plate like you like my eyes so much here you go you know i but uh my soul belongs to christ you are i said who's you remember the guy's name uh i want to say philip but i'm not sure if i was philip you know what i'd say like you you be lucy yeah okay here's my eyes oh you're my bride my bride's here welcome everybody what a lovely halloweons my beautiful bride uh She's, you know, I haven't met her yet. She's a, she's, uh, some guy's, some guy's daughter, I don't know, like, I made a deal. A lot of this is political.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yeah, a lot of it's political, but, you know, but I'm glad to see her. It's going to be nice to make a baby or something. I don't know. How you doing it, how you doing, sweetheart? I got something for you. What do you got? You got me a gift. My beautiful pride got me a gift.
Starting point is 00:05:46 What do you got? You know how you love my eyes so much? I do. I forgot to mention. I love her eyes. I've seen her eyes before. I did see her eyes. I said to that guy who made to deal with.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I don't know. I forget if he was a king or whatever. He was a fisherman. But he said, like, show me your eyes. And he said, like, he was like a bird of one of those Muslim burqa things. You know, those burqas? He made as I saw him in their great eyes. It's where we got. Well, I would say, you said you love my eyes so much. What's my gift?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Here they are. I took them out and I put them on a plate for you. You took your eyes out. You know what you just did? You played yourself. That's what I would say. I was told. Ain't nobody going to want you now. Yeah, you know, I don't want the eyeless bride, but you know who else doesn't? Anyone else?
Starting point is 00:06:31 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what, I don't know what chum, a fisherman who drinks his own chum. You know what chum is? Bride, without eyes? You probably don't, you don't lie. Chum is the guts of fish that we don't eat, and we use it to catch other bigger fish. You didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Don't tell me what you knew. Anyway, the guy who eats, some guys got to eat that chum sometimes because they're low on our toe and pole and decide, and he wouldn't touch. you because you got no eyes so you plagued yourself back in the Middle Ages or whatever you wanted to be a big woman make a point
Starting point is 00:07:04 look at you now eyeless am I really so bad I'm like a king or something I'm Philip the kind of whatever the king I am and you don't want to marry me I'm not Tom Cruise
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm not Benicio del Toro well why don't you get them go get a time machine you're done this is because I'm 5'9 you're tall your tall envy this is why men are lonely
Starting point is 00:07:33 because women be cutting their eyes out bitch would be like that Jesus yeah but um so that's one saint I don't know what he was doing those animals
Starting point is 00:07:47 St. Francis is the cutest saint I mean I guess is always with the animals I've heard his other stuff, too. I mean, I forget. You can look it up if you want. I forget if he's, like, into, I can't even see anything. I forget if he's into, like, what you call it?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Do you want to take it off? You did your duty. No, I'm good. I like this. I respect. I'm not Princess Lucy or whatever her name is. Yeah. You know, I, I, I, what a scammer?
Starting point is 00:08:21 What a scammer? she was. What's they know, look, can you can you Google St. Francis and see like what's, well, maybe as chat chipped the dark side of St. Francis? Because I think I've heard every time
Starting point is 00:08:36 you hear about these saints, we're really getting away from Halloween here. We have a tendency to ramble. But yeah, let's just see the dark side. And we won't do every saint. There is something kind of spooky about religion. Yeah, you're right. Honestly, what I just described is scared than any minion costume. Right?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Have you found anything about St. Francis? Let's right. Let's cancel him. Cancel St. Francis. I can't. You have to narrate what you're doing. I can't see.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I mean, do you, like... I'll vamp. So, you know, but I know about St. Francis is he likes cats. Okay. The dark side of the St. Francis refers to the less commonly known aspects of his life,
Starting point is 00:09:14 including his suffering from physical and mental trauma. Oh. That doesn't seem like a dark side. That's just something you struggled with. His wife died. Yeah. The dark side of him. Are she that guy who's wife?
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah, that's why I became like a manga animals. Yeah, but your wife's dead. Wow, that's pretty dark. Yeah, dude. You kind of have a dark side. You bring me down, Francis. Bring me way down. I find the church can burn up.
Starting point is 00:09:36 You know, the glory of God, not the sadness. If God is doing that to you, what's he going to do to me? I cheat on my taxes. Oh, apparently. I don't really. I'm actually very honest. That'd be the irony if someone would believe that. I'm too honest
Starting point is 00:09:52 As a young man Francis was imprisoned after a battle An experience that deeply wounded him physically and emotionally So most scholars suggest He may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder Oh God Oh God
Starting point is 00:10:06 I don't know if any of this is a dark side Is it just a I mean it's kind of interesting to me That St. Francis was a killer Yeah no we don't know He might have been known You know it's like Remember the movie Patton
Starting point is 00:10:17 And Patton when the guy's always got shell shock doesn't exist and he smacked them because he wasn't a killer I don't think that's a problem you know I mean I'm not saying if you killed guys you can't get stressed it depends on when the stress comes on right you know
Starting point is 00:10:32 some guys have post traumatic stress but then I assume I know I'm a sports in the military but I'm paid to say the thing it's not particularly well but I appreciate everything I get but you know I'm paid it's my job to say the things
Starting point is 00:10:46 that some people can't say So, you know, nail me to the cross For I'm about to say But yeah, maybe got some guys A unit, and I wouldn't know Who'd go, yeah, but his post-traumatic stress Started during the stress, you know what I mean? You know, we all shot a bunch of guys
Starting point is 00:11:03 And we feel bad about it. He's hitting the corner. Now, I'm just saying, okay, it's possible that exists. Is that dark? Is that the darkest thing on Halloween? I'm sorry. I'm assuming that's a thing that can happen that some people feel that some guy you don't think some soldiers in regards to a professional and he's like what what you feel sorry for you know i kind of i kind of resented the guy in my unit who got really scared during the war and like i was scared too but i still shot the kids and the wives and the soldiers you know yeah i feel bad about it he gets to like pretend he's right you didn't even
Starting point is 00:11:39 shooting the wives you know and look it just happens people go oh don't you think soldiers all they do No, it's messy. War is messy, but whatever. That's just Halloween. Right? It also says that he was, St. Francis also experienced spiritual darkness. Right. And claimed to be tormented by demons who caused him sleepless nights.
Starting point is 00:12:02 This is exactly why we need Halloween. This is actually placed into it perfectly. Because he would have thought, why do you need to wipe the slate clean? Because saints got messy lives, right? The saints are all just disease. St. Lucie's playing herself. St. Francis got dead, dead wives. It's post-traumatic.
Starting point is 00:12:21 You know, it's like, oh, this is, the Pope probably looked at this slate of a freaking saints he had. You know, these are all just basket cases. There's wackadoos. Dark, dark demons. We need to get these demons out. Yeah. It's invented Halloween.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's all Hallows Eve. And it's invented to clean the slate to get all Saints stay going. Right. You got to get. that spooky drill you hear that spooky drill go yeah i wonder if they do it happens sometimes they're built they're always building something in our beautiful utopia we live in so if you do i apologize but go on sorry um you're talking about the same friend the spooky demons oh yeah i mean yeah you got to purge him yeah you got purge him out you got to get him out it's like it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:13:08 a la diet what they call that the hollywood diet where you just drink a bunch of cayenne pepper and lemon and honey and you get your brain's out for a thousand years and you look amazing you look so fuckable it's so good you just I mean honestly you think the people on the Hollywood diet
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't want to think about that but they you know and the timing you got a big premiere going on and you're like maybe you're like a low level actress maybe you're like the girl at the coffee shop in the Tom Cruz movie but the whole cast got nominated you're in there you go oh the premiere
Starting point is 00:13:40 I want to look my best in my gallows dress, my gown, and you do the Hollywood cayenne pepper diet shit your brains out, right? You look great and you fucking drapes all over you. And then you know, Tom Cruise takes you, he wouldn't might. It was
Starting point is 00:13:56 a hot, a hot actor, right? A shake a ballardi type, right? Takes you home and you're in bed and you're pumping. He's pumping you. It's just so things are happening, you're getting pumped. Do you think he ever, you know, the Hollywood diet
Starting point is 00:14:12 They have a blasty ass all over them. Oh, my, oh, I'm sure. Right. I mean, if you're doing some weird diet. Hollywood, Hollywood sex must be. And you can't turn down the pump because the pump is like, is like part of the networking.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh, no, and you, it's not like, yeah, no, it's not like, oh, so I have to go, but we just get together. No, he's Jacob O'Rearty. Yeah. You know, the Hollywood man. You can't let that go to waste. You're not commandeas, right? You're not, you know, you're not Sidney Sweeney with a big transparent tit dress.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Right. You know, shout out Sidney Sweeney. You have to take, you have to take, you know, a lot of Hollywood is taking it where you can get it. Yeah. You know, when, when you get the, when you get the, when you get the, when you get the, when you get the, when you get the, I mean, I'm not talking about like, you know, non-consensual shit. I'm just talking about, like, you know, women who want to bang Jacob a Lurdy. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Right. Women who want to put it, women who want to put in that effort. Yeah. Well, it's just they want to get pumped. He's great. He's, he's playing Frankenstein. He's, I don't know he's got a good body. He's a guy from saltburn.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He's playing Frankenstein. Yeah. And he's on the euphoria. And they want women want a bank famous guy. It's not like, stop it. Not every time. It doesn't mean you can assume it. But like stop acting.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Like every, like women don't want Kevin Spacey. They want him inside him. They know he's a gay man. Doesn't matter. Yeah, you made a good point about the whole, like, Leonardo DiCaprio yacht controversy. Right. Like, I'll try to summarize it, basically, like,
Starting point is 00:15:33 it was like, you're telling this 19-year-old girl, whatever, international supermodel, whatever. Right. Like, it's, it's problematic for you to go on Leo's yacht and fuck him. Yeah. When, like, you know, realistically, she's probably gone through so many less desirable dicks before she's got in there. Oh, grotesqueries.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like, just so sure that she can be there. Right. That's her grail. Yeah. She's gone through, like, the bouncer, but not even the bankers, the bond, the guy from the bond company, you know, like, just some accountant. I mean, there's a few who, like, you know, there's a few guys. just lied.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They weren't even part of the food chain. She was like, oh, God, I got to start over now. She went to, you know, it's like, one of those choose your own adventure books, and she went down the wrong path. And the whole time she was collaging. She was, she was vision boarding. Yeah. This is all worth it because one day I'm going to be on Leo's yacht.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I get to suck on Leo. This is my lot, my lot in life is a suck on you, Leo's yacht. Yeah. You know? She had that tattooed. She got a tramp stamp of that before she realized tramp stamps her out, you know? And now you're trying at the, at the, whatever, I don't know, the sports metaphor. Right. But when she's about to close the deal.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Touchdown. When she's about to enter the touchdown zone. You want to, you want to take her rail from her. Yeah. We were like rail out of her mouth, right? That's, that spiky grail. That scabby grail. Whatever, mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I just don't understand. Man, like, it's just, that's just whatever. This is, again, this is not the Hollywood Bang episode. This is, this is a Halloween episode. Yeah, that's also. But, you know, but that could be a funny ghost, not a funny ghost story, but a ghost story. It's like, oh, so you go home with Jacob Allorty and, and, like, you know, it's not his fault. He's like, hey, you look cute and your dress.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You look, you look, you did the Hollywood diet. He's not, he's not asking you to starve yourself with Kanye and Pepper. He's just, this is what is. He's just enjoying the results. Life is a very complicated matrix of just unrelated things mixing together. And so you're pumped, you're getting, pumped by Jacob O'Lauri Frankenstein and his Frankenstein outfit
Starting point is 00:17:42 and you just blast shit a lot of them. And it's just, it's the story you can tell you kids. Right? Because he got your pregnant cream powder. He was going to pull out by your cream podage by mistake. That's actually that's a fun story actually.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Because of that, he didn't think they're not cream, oh my God, wow. Oh, wow. so we're back we're back in the new york groove uh all hollows eve now i told you that whole story about all hollows eve right no no i'm just saying well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes you did yeah it's all why because there's something i mean i mean maybe they had it but it's like everything else in this religion it's it's stable on top of something else there was something called sonheim or something i believe which was like a pagan ritual and it was and uh they
Starting point is 00:18:35 would just kind of i don't know burn witches or whatever which is which is begin burned all the time. You know, pagans would burn witches? I don't know who pagans were. I think pagan just means not Christian, right? Like, Romans were pagans, I think, but also other people were like the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:18:51 pagans, I guess. I don't think pagans of religion, per se. Some Christians are kind of pagan. Well, I don't think, I mean, saints are pagans, by the point. The idea of a saint is just they tacked that on to, you know, because they had all these different gods,
Starting point is 00:19:04 Jupiter and Rome, Romeo, whatever, Mars, right? these are old, you know, type, these are old gods of Rome. And Greeks had their gods and the Vikings had theirs. And I'm sure the Tell the Hahn has own special gods. And when you have a religion, that's the thing about religions nowadays. It's very locked in. They're very like, no, we have our mythos, right?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. But religion used to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll negotiate. You take some of it. Well, yeah, we have gods already. We'll make a part of this. It's folk. What do we call him? Little gods?
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, little god, that sounds stupid. Saint. I never heard that. All right, saint, sure, whatever. It's a saint. What are they even mean? Sounds like Satan. Why does saints sound like Satan?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Maybe. Maybe we call him like, well, maybe because the devil used to be a little god or an angel. Lucifer was a, what was a lucifer was a traveling man. boy, right? The specialist boy of God. He was the morning star. He was the, he was like the delivery guy or so. No, Gabriel was his delivery. He was going to say, hey, hey, he told you're pregnant. Right?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Oh, boy. I'm good for you. I wish I get pregnant by God. I'm just an angel. Can't happen. And Lucifer was like right there with that guy. I think he was even higher up. He was the best. I don't know what he did. He fought. They always talked about this war, the war of heaven. the war i mean do they have swords are they just kind of using like like goku magic command am cams and stuff lightning bolts what is the what is the tactics of the war on heaven
Starting point is 00:20:48 i don't know right what kind of artillery are we talking about it's just a battle of wills like who's got the most will like they just know they just know like how do we determine it they don't have to they just know like imagine if you're like imagine like we're like we don't know what spirits are right spirits could exist in a in a form of a plane of existence where like you were just you feel truth you feel fact right you feel power yeah so it's just like it would be it would be anathema and then how do you know what you mean how we know you know like how do you hear anything and they look at you you don't get this do you ah it's not worth it and just leave that's why ghosts only come around once in a while
Starting point is 00:21:28 if ghosts were real why don't they haunt you during the day and well they kind of get bored like they only come out when they're bored probably like spirits are in some weird realm And, like, they try to talk to you, and it's like, and they're like, oh, and you're like, oh, God, oh, my God. And I'm like, oh, they're got a retard. Yeah. I mean, it was an idiot. It's a big dummy. He doesn't get anything.
Starting point is 00:21:48 He doesn't understand. He's a coward. Yeah, he just runs away, like an idiot. Like, when you're a cat, like, it's the way called scary cat, right? You're a cat and it's like, ah. I was a while I walked past the litter box before, you went before the show, and the cat jumped out of it while I was pissing. I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I felt bad for Dana of the cat. But, yeah, I mean, like, I didn't mean. do um we know we when we get when we get a place on mansion we'll have a little wing of the house for a litter box but that can happen but right now we don't have that so i have to walk past it sometimes well dome my point is that's like how i feel about that if i love that cat that demon don't love you right so it feels like it feels the way you feel you if i if i sort of some random thing jump out of a while i was taking a crap and jump around but what's going on You see a fly, a fly sitting on your bag of flower at your house and you walk past as a fly, you don't feel compassion.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You go, I want an idiot fly. I hate you. That's how a ghost feels when it sees you. Well, you know, I think that they're like the reason the nighttime stuff, like the reason the ghost came out at night in the past. Right. And maybe made it a little bit more sense. Yeah. Because like it, because during the night it was just like dark and quiet.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Dark is the night. And maybe you could just like hear a ghost better during that time. Sure. Like, you know, you notice things that you wouldn't notice during the day. Because you would take an ayahuasca, like one of those Indians. Your senses are heightened. Yeah. But now it's just like everybody's, it's all the same shit no matter what time of day.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You're watching Netflix. You're watching, you're watching The Stranger Things. You're watching, you're watching Jenny Ortega on Wednesday. You're like, oh, I was kissing Jimmy Ortega. Like, she's kind of young, dude. Oh, I don't care. She's old enough to be on Netflix. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Who's, you know, I'm not. house and I'm having this conversation with this creep and I can't hear the ghost this ghost is trying to like get it but getting a word in edge of the ghost is like Lucy told what I'm talking trying to get a word in edgewise you know the ghost is like hey I'm gonna kill you kids and I'm yelling hey what what do you mean what was this age gap this argument going on Twitter for shut up we can't get the Epstein files and we're talking about a 50 a 50 year old and a 30 year old I like here. I mean, ghosts is like, well, by the way, I'm, I'm going to, oh, boo.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Just hold on a second. I got this guy in a corner. I'm going to really, I'm going to get him to, I'm going to say he's wrong, which never happens. It's amazing. We spent so much time arguing. Who am I, Andy Rooney? We spent so much time arguing on Twitter. And no one ever says they're wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:27 We should be buying war bonds. the Japanese took my legs don't see me can fly no more the guy from Labowski now I should have been that guy for Halloween Mr. LeBowski oh man so
Starting point is 00:24:44 another prayer just yeah dear Lord I know the inequities are high inequities are huge please the blood just fuck just kill that lamb the lamb sitting there
Starting point is 00:24:57 I mean why did you tell the story of the prodigal son right when you cut the fatty calf but you won't cut me the lamb of the lamb? Give me the blood of the lamb please God just to clarify I believe Jesus is the lamb of God all right but he's fine with it he's always like to drink my blood you're you're kind of saying like you know
Starting point is 00:25:16 kill Jesus again no I'm saying like you know he died for your sins once he keeps telling me to drink his blood how long is blood gonna keep you gotta keep cutting it from the lambs yeah I think he's trying to say I think he's saying, like, I'm the lamb. Like, I think lamb might be him. I mean, we don't think about that.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But, like, he may have been talking a lot about lambs, right? He did. Maybe it wasn't all metaphor. Maybe he meant, like, maybe he gets to have it. He's like, look, I mean, drink your blood. What blood? Well, church, you didn't have consecrated wine. That's grape juice.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I told you, the blood more weird. Yeah, lamb blood. Why do you think I kept saying lamb? lamb blood it's good for it's got a lot of nutrients B12 it helps you against COVID you know
Starting point is 00:26:09 it's a lot of it is a lot of mixed metaphors because he's the lamb right but then he's also the shepherd yeah and we're the no my whole point I'm a lamb who could be his own shepherd it's not cool it's not great thing don't you get it I was the lamb who's his own shepherd I was saying
Starting point is 00:26:25 you don't need to follow nothing oh yeah it's not cool Wouldn't that have been a great way to live? I get you. Interesting. Yeah. The old guy of all. You're all drinking fucking wine.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Getting drunk. Piss ants. You know, what if you just called you a piss ant? I mean, it's usually not that offensive, but if Jesus Christ calls you a piss ant, wow. You feel how horrible. You little brass.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You're old junk. All of you, you all just junk to me. you know like he'll watch you live in a junk drawer but you big nothing's I really despise you I won't say hate because you know it's not really it's not really a Jesus gimmick Jesus don't hate right
Starting point is 00:27:11 guess so so I just despise despise your ass that's the spice of life anyway um so I'm not sure much about Sondheim and I can't really read or screen right now so whatever
Starting point is 00:27:27 like Steven Sondheim I mean look it up it was a Sanheim look up Sanheim I mean you can read it though because you're just wearing you're just wearing like a mask of a girl from eyes wide shut I guess or something that's right you're like are you playing a prude from eyes wide shut you just some secretary
Starting point is 00:27:45 we thought we were clear you were you were gonna be a high class escort like oh I just thought it was a party well he's getting dressed like I'm gonna I'm not doing that here I mean I'm uncomfortable. If the right guy takes me into a room, maybe. But I'm not going to walk around a mansion, Westchester, or whatever, Long Island.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I think it's supposed to be on an island, actually, which I don't know where that mansion would be on an island, but whatever. I'm not comfy. There are a couple of Long Island mansions that, you know, I don't think that one is, but whatever. That's my favorite Halloween movies, I was why it showed. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a Christmas movie. It really is.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Why does I never come up? I mean, I won't do up. I think it does exist. I don't read it, but like, it's always it's a hard of Christmas movie. It's never his eyes wide shut. Right. But you find...
Starting point is 00:28:35 Well, it's like Christmas. Christmas is definitely there. It's definitely a factor in eyes much. Oh, yeah, it ends on the Christmas presents. Right. But there aren't a lot of Christmassy things in it. They're rapping gifts. He walks around in his Christmas stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I think when he's walking around the fake New York City, it looks like, you know, London. But doesn't, um, uh, John McLean literally say, like, oh, ho, ho, ho, oh, yeah. No, all right. There's no, like, like, clever little Christmas lines.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'm not saying it replaced Die Hard as a Christmas movie, but whatever. Why do you know Halloween movies, are there? Are there any Halloween movies? Like, movies that take place on Halloween? Yeah, but aren't necessarily Halloween. Right, but okay. Yeah, that's a good point. But are, all right, but, yeah, so that's a big, it's called, all right,
Starting point is 00:29:22 other than Halloween in the franchise. Mm-hmm. And not horror movies. Are any movies that are just, like, take place on Halloween? Incidentally, as it were? Pumpkinhead, I think. That's not a horror movie? I think, oh, that isn't horror.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, that's a good question. Because it's inherently, it was like, it takes place on Halloween and it's horror, it's inherently related. I mean, like, a movie about some guy who was an accountant, but it just happens to be Halloween. I think, you know what? I think, and the band played on, which is that movie that HBO made that was based on the famous book about AIDS. And the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, I remember there being a big Halloween, scene like because you know
Starting point is 00:29:58 there's a big gay Halloween and you might be still be in Greenwich Village a big Halloween parade in the city and the band played I remember bringing a decent movie Ian McHellan was in it
Starting point is 00:30:07 and B.D. Wong who was in he was the guy who was the Asian scientist in Jurassic Park that's right who's actually made a call he actually brought
Starting point is 00:30:15 I thought he was a relatively minor character he's also the church chaplain the prison chaplain on Oz the prison show in HBO whatever is a decent movie if I remember correctly
Starting point is 00:30:24 so Samhane Soan Sandhame sounds right Is celebrated around November 1st It's pagan ritual And it involves honoring ancestors Yeah And the changing seasons
Starting point is 00:30:39 Through activities like bonfires Ancestrial alters And personal contemplation It's all about harvest It's all about getting that corn I like a good bonfire Bonfire Bonfires are dope
Starting point is 00:30:50 There should be more fires Yeah You know what we used to watch Rocky The movie Rocky right in Philly there was all these bums used to have like trash cans full of fire
Starting point is 00:30:59 which maybe that's why the trash cans now were like mailboxes we can't really like you can't light a fire in them but that would be kind of dope and they were saying like spooky holly
Starting point is 00:31:08 a bunch of homes you're the homeless people don't have anything cool anymore they're just kind of annoying and they allow and they pull out knives on the subway which I guess is kind of spooky
Starting point is 00:31:16 that's nice I mean that's nice but you know they uh but if you saw like because in Rocky weren't they singing like do-op and like Motown songs.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah, they have a culture. Yeah. There's a there's a hobo culture. Yeah, different from the from the bindul. We talk about hobo code recently. Right. But this is more like, or patently, you are definitely against. I'm against hobo code. You can, you have to sign up for the page you and find out. I'm not going to repeat. You know, just one of time
Starting point is 00:31:42 for that. Good gimmick, gets in the pay. We need your money. Um, what you call it? But yeah, but no, I'm against this hobo culture. I'm against The idea, look, to be just very sufficiently, the idea of Homebo's writing messages to each other in my front lawns, just, fuck, I find despicable. But the idea of like, you know, but if they had a fire and they were singing a spooky song, you know, it was a mash, the monster mash, you know, or stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Saying monster mash and four point, part harmony. That'd be amazing. Dude, that'd be so spooky. Or they're just like ghosts. And I'm like, oh, we're homeless. You know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I mean, I, yeah, I, I think that culture, that culture had value. Sure. And now you've played yourself. Moving on, because, you know, how much can we talk about history we didn't research? What is you, you have, let's, let's, do you have, what will we bring up? Halloween stories. Yes. You want to start?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, sure. I have three times in my childhood where I was brutalized on Halloween, I believe. three times I was I was dressed up as a Zorro and uh that's a great costume it was cool yeah I got I like Zora because they just have a show on the family channel I think it was and it was a re re I didn't see that Antonio Bandara's movie it was something else um but his kid took my sword and just whipped me in the face with it it was because like it's one of like plastic swords but it's kind of flexible and he's like let me see that and like all right and he just kind of like like a whack like a switch
Starting point is 00:33:23 it hurt a lot that's the first mistake you never give up your sword you know I mean he wasn't really an option it was like you know yeah I remember it was older I learned that I learned that lesson this guy in my bus was like hey let me see your watch I'm like I'm not let me see it and like
Starting point is 00:33:37 he started hit me in a punch of me in the head yeah I like don't get it wrong don't get it twisted no try that now I'll be dead one of us will be dead probably me I'm not wanting to happen I don't take shit no one no more um but you know you have to take your lump sometimes yeah um you got to learn
Starting point is 00:33:58 what it's like yeah learn what it's like low yeah just so you never you never let it happen again you go wow I have my I have options do you think I have no options I always have options you know I always have one last option if you know what I mean I'm the ghost now what was it on the heels of that that you thought of that response the the I'm gonna go on your front lawn I'm going to shoot myself on your front line. Well, I'm sure that inspired me. Not directly that, but just kind of a certain level of like, yeah, I'm not going to be the punk no more. Yeah, that's not what I meant by.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I guess I was describing an option in that case where it's like, I'm going to come to my house and shoot myself with your front lawn. Yeah. I should make shirts of that. Yeah, you should. We're going to make more merch. I want people, I want my messages. Sometimes I feel like the wisdom. I give it the world.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I know people tweet at me and stuff. I always just, they'll bring up stuff I forgot I told the world. And I appreciate that. But I want, but you know, I want, I want a front and center.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I want, I want, you know, the people to bear witness to my threats. You know, the public, right? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Another time, I was, uh, I was, uh, dressed as a, a psychotic person. I found this Jake the Snake Roberts head
Starting point is 00:35:21 My dad bore a used car And it was just under the seat And it was like I guess it was from a doll or something But it was just a head And I stapled that to like a white sweatshirt And I was like a stray jacket Tide up a straitjacket up a straitjacket And this guy and this guy just
Starting point is 00:35:36 Like Got right, like took an egg And it's right in my face I smashed it Like to use the whole like smashing thing Damn And then I just like took his bag and drew it
Starting point is 00:35:51 and then like you know they punched me I think oh really yeah his candy was a little junked you know I don't think I had known that you had ever taken a punch I think you what I'm just like soft little bitch
Starting point is 00:36:04 well well I feel like you I've given punches you have a lot of stories about verbally defending yourself which sometimes stops the physical conflict like if you can do that yeah no I'm not I'm not a newsy Right? I didn't like, I didn't like, you know, I didn't pull out switchblades as a kid.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I did it as an adult once. I guess my other one, I think that was around Halloween. I was looking at my third one is that some guy was trying to, um, I was with my friend at a bar and, uh, I had a blade on me. And you, and this guy came over trying to sell us, which I, for a while I thought me they overreacted. Um, this is 20 years ago, so you can't even say anything about this. But, you know, nothing, no, don't come at me with this.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'm an older man. I'm wiser now. But whatever. He can't be. And he's like. I want to talk to you about this package we could sell you for drinks
Starting point is 00:36:51 which like it doesn't exist now now I think about it it doesn't exist at all I was right to just be like I was like no we don't just go away What was this was Did he work at the bar?
Starting point is 00:37:02 I don't know it's just some bull Yeah exactly it's weird And like I just pulled the blade out In my in my pocket Just in case Which is like an excessive I get you know It's like why were they doing that
Starting point is 00:37:14 I didn't you know But it's like this guy seems like a problem and then like he's like he got because he got pissed me not as soon as he sat down but he started getting pissy because i was so dismissive of him like what you mean you think i'm nothing kind of vibe right because those guys a guy who does that he thinks of himself as an entrepreneur somebody's a hustler right yeah i'm a big hustle i'm a big new york hustle boy and i freaking and uh you know and so he got pissy i'm like oh this guy maybe a problem i was young it was like 20 something like 21 and i pull a knife out in my pocket and i was just in case
Starting point is 00:37:45 in case I'm ready to do something which is not I would not recommend it's just like you have to think about what comes down like you know in my head I'm like well I'm not just gonna stab I have no reason but if I need to but you know you kind of put
Starting point is 00:37:59 part of the reason I know I don't want to carry a gun a lot of time is like well it's a lot of stress to think about like is this the moment I'm allowed to shoot you know there's a lot of rules and you know like the guy you can't be running away which like
Starting point is 00:38:13 yeah but like guys like things move back and forth. You know, situation has changed a lot. And I don't think, I just don't think a court's going to ever take my side. If it's ever doubt, it goes against me. Right. Right? So I'm just looking at, but whatever. That's besides the point. So I had this out.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And he goes to grab my, I had, I think I had like a weird hat on. It was a cabby hat. I was going to look for a while. And he like, oh, like, he's trying to pull that shit. Oh, let me see a hat. And he starts to reach him my hat. And I was not thinking, I'm like, don't touch my hat. But I used the hand out of the knife in it. And I pulled the
Starting point is 00:38:45 knife out. He's like, whoa, what the fuck? And he just really dropped the knife my mistake. But I think
Starting point is 00:38:51 it kind of it was kind of like that scene departed where Nick, Nicholson's kind of like the gun and just kind of,
Starting point is 00:38:57 oh, but you know, it's kind of part of the whole like like it's not I'm not trying like I'm so crazy I don't even care and I'm dropping a gun
Starting point is 00:39:05 and pick you look at that well do I think you know I can notice his friend's got a little cagey. So whatever. Spooky times. Did you ever have a memory of, like, I feel like this is a common thing.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like, like dressing up, being at that awkward age in like seventh or eighth grade. Yeah. Where some kids start wearing more mature costumes, scarier costumes. Sure, yeah. Or maybe even a little bit, this is disturbing to say, but like, you know, like sexier costumes. Well, I don't know if it's a man, I do, women start getting sexier. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah. I like women. Don't get twisted. But, yeah, no, I never kind of evolved into, like, a really intricate costume as a, like, teenager kind of thing. Yeah. I think one year I went in a garbage bag. Right. Yeah, that's actually kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Like, the minimalism of that is cool. Yeah, I guess. But, like, I remember, like, going out trick-or-treating with my friends, like, around the time this was happening. Yeah. And I had, like, planned this whole, like, umpalumpa outfit. Oh, right? Yeah, from a Charlie Chaliyonka, right? And it just looks ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I have a couple of pictures of it. It just looks ridiculous. It does. It does seem, I don't remember that that transition, but still trick-or-treating. Right. That seems odd to me. Yeah. Or maybe even, honestly, maybe even the trick-or-treating was done.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It was more like a party or something. Right, Halloween party, sure, yeah. That's more where it would be. Yeah. You have, like, a bunch of, like, slutty, like, teenage girls, like, going trick-or-treating. It's like, I just wouldn't recommend it to them. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:41 They weren't even, like, they weren't even necessarily sexy. Like, it was, it was more like, but they were getting cuter, like, more aware of, uh, that a boy, you know, my, my, my, my, my, my, they weren't, they weren't, they weren't, they weren't, they weren't, they weren't, they weren't, where's that come from? Who, who cares? Who am I offending? Everyone. But, you know, it's, uh, it wasn't like these, you know, oh, I'm, I'm the, I'm sexy, uh, I'm sexy coroner. Right. I'm doing an autopsy with, and a thong sticking on my ass. oh look at that we found we found the bullet and bend it over and it's hanging out she's like Sydney sweetie but it's just like the colors of an oopalupa are so off putting right like it's just like bright neon green
Starting point is 00:41:27 and orange no I honestly like it sounds hilarious because like your an opa lumba is kind of like obnoxious to look at it's just like what am I looking is disgusting this is a little butterball green and orange butterball like it's the most unpleasing in a good way
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's a funny way because, like, but when it cuts to them in that movie, everyone loves that movie. I like the movie. I don't love as much as everyone. I read the book when it's a kid, so maybe that's part of it. You never liked the movie after you read a book. But I envision them very differently, you know, but, uh, yeah, no, it's like, uh, they have a particularly obnoxious, uh, look to them. Yeah. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So it's like, oh, you look cute. It's like some guy, older boy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. they told you like the handicapped
Starting point is 00:42:17 like sister or something wow yeah so that's fun you know we haven't you know in the city you don't get a lot I mean I think they used to be a thing in the city
Starting point is 00:42:33 because I grew up in the Rhode Island and we did trick-or-treating in the city I guess there used to be there was this thing where you go to stores right like you know whatever main street you're here and you can't and like if you go into a store they'll give you candy which sounds lame
Starting point is 00:42:48 I mean I feel if I was a parent I'd be like I don't like go this liquor store they're expensive I go the cheap ones but you know close to the fucking subway um but like oh you're like hey come back soon like uh but I bought you wine for your birthday I made your birthday dinner right or something or something like that and then yeah and I went to that that that that that that whatever that place is, you know, it plays on the main street. I don't people know where we live with the main street, with the liquor store, with the wine, whatever. If I had to go in there on, like, my kid and be like, please give me him pretty much
Starting point is 00:43:23 because tears, even though I'll never frequent your business, it feels weird. Right. But whatever. But I think we're all going to need to, the reason I'm bringing this up, but I think we're all going to need to get a little more used to trick-or-treating. Take a trick-or-treating this year is training. Because if we don't get this snap back in place, there's going to be a lot of kids trick-treating. your house you know what I mean yeah it's a stock up yeah and I don't mean ammo all right
Starting point is 00:43:48 you don't have to shoot like if you're gonna shoot them anyway why not just give him a can of beans bullets cost money how much of the bullet cost is it really cheaper is it really cheaper than the can of beans like oh they come to me I'll shoot him give me a can of beans I actually did see I saw like a video of a guy yeah he had put he had a bowl of candy yeah for the kids who were coming to his house yeah But on top of the bowl, he put a, like, potatoes. Oh. There were, like, a few potatoes.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah. Just as an experiment to see how many kids would want the potato. Yeah. And a lot of them did. Well, they just... You know, it's just a novelty. You just take the potato to throw it someone. They threw the handicapped kids.
Starting point is 00:44:31 They shut their heads in with it. Yeah. Potato's a good weapon. I mean, yeah, it's like, uh, it's a lovely... I mean, I'm trying to... That's a good point. They probably were taking it as weapon. one thing they take for granted is that like
Starting point is 00:44:45 there probably would be no situation unless you had a weird parent or friend of a friend of parent or a friend in your circle that did this but I mean I guess it's not really Boy Scout dogma either to be fair it's kind of similarly random
Starting point is 00:45:03 a potato gun I remember one time we were at a camp out it wasn't it was like a two or three day camp out in some you know in the woods like a shelter thing but one the dad's you know he wasn't a Boy Scout leader he's had me one of the guys he built he made a potato gun at a PVC pipe and and it's like PVC pipe an aerosol in the lighter or something and you just put potato in and shoots it very devastating if you got hit I think it was
Starting point is 00:45:30 an episode of that showed Nash Bridges if I remember correctly uh or something where I don't know it was but some kids did it and they and they shot it at a car the car like crashed killed people and they felt oh my god yeah it was terrible yeah but that could happen. I mean, it's a devastating weapon. Kids used to mess around with cars a lot more back in the day. It seems like... At least in movies. It seems like it's kind of a trope of like kids throwing stuff
Starting point is 00:45:53 over the overpass. Oh my God. You remember what? We'd be talking a lot about like horror when the Patreon, we'd be talking about the favorites of horror movies or whatever or something. I completely forgot until now, the good son. The good son. McCauley Culkin played in Elijah Wood. That was a crazy movie. I don't know if it holds up or not,
Starting point is 00:46:11 but I mean, they dropped him. They were dropping, like, what, like fake dead bodies over the overpass on their car that making them crash? Yeah. It's so crazy. No, to be a kid who's just like, I'll just do shit and, like, let, let mayhem happen. That's terrible. I remember watching that movie kind of like a illicitly.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Like, I had been explicitly told not to watch it. Right. I know you love Home Alone and Home Alone 2, but this is not Home Alone 3. But I remember it being kind of good. I'd like to see that one holds up. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the ending is weird. I don't know if that mother's a good mother in the end.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Right. I mean, it's a 30-year-old movie. I can spoil it, right? I'll just spoil it, right? Yeah. A spoiler alert. Look, if you want to watch a good son, skip ahead to, I don't know, I'm like, just kind of skip ahead.
Starting point is 00:46:58 But don't. What's the difference? It's not that good movie. The mother at the end, like, they're in a tree house or something or over the cliff, and the mother has, like, they kind of are fighting, I guess, because Elijah Wood realizes that it's called Kilken's evil. And he's, like, the cousin? or something of him
Starting point is 00:47:15 Right, yeah, they're loosely They're not brothers, their cousins at best, they're not friends And like, but you know I guess he slowly realizes How many he's killing cats probably He's probably doing such a sociopathic stuff Right
Starting point is 00:47:27 And the fight happens And they go over the cliff And the mother catches both of them And she can't pull them by She's a woman, she's, you know, physically useless almost She can't pull them back up Yeah, the two kids, but whatever
Starting point is 00:47:39 You know, you're gonna die I need both hands or you know and you think, like, oh, she's going to save her son. She lets her son die. She grabs a lot of wood because he's got a good heart. He's got a good soul. Yeah. Which is a big stretch for her mother, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:52 I got he's a bad kid. Yeah. A bad seed. Right. But that's cold as ice. Right. That's like, hey, hey, hey. I mean, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:48:02 See a young song, right? My sons died today. Kill my son's treehouse day. No, it's bad. I chose the better boy He wasn't my son But I wish he was I mean did she get him as a son now
Starting point is 00:48:18 I forget he wasn't an orphan that kid We should have watched the movie It's possible It's possible we remember this terribly I think that his parents died And that's why he came to them All right It's okay I guess she gets to keep him at least
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah It'd be really funny She has to go home Like he goes home to his family And it's like oh I don't get to keep you Well no I mean I appreciate you save my life I mean it's not that unrealistic
Starting point is 00:48:40 It's like okay you uh in the span of three weeks right all of your kids have somehow like almost died and now you're you were hanging out near a cliff you're letting them hang you're you're not fit to raise children no she should keep them yeah i mean like i know my son's the one who did it but i mean like what are you doing you let me you let me have no yeah but i saved your life yeah i appreciate i'm just surprised he did blood blood you know you know you ain't heard the blood lady i mean honestly is there anything more create what i know like there's people out there who say like you know they'll turn their sons in you know if he did you if he did the old club city bombing they'll turn them in right um
Starting point is 00:49:20 what do you think about that if i had a son and he committed heinous things i just you know you think you just take care of it yourself's a difference everything's bad that seems to be like the ultimate like like it's outside of the law yeah for sure but like that seems to be the decent thing to do i'm not going to hell because is what my son did. Right. God's not going to send me to hell because I didn't turn my son into the law. Like at that point, like this is a bad situation.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I'm just trying to get out. I'm just trying not to go to hell. My son's going to hell. I believe that. You get a lot of people. I don't think God is going to be like, where you didn't turn him in. Like, I, like, God, I'm pretty sure you meant that I should take care of my son, right? I know that.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I know, like, betraying my son might be, might be, you might have beef with that, you know? But no one's ever going to blame me for this. But do you think that you would take him out to the woods maybe and handle it like George and Lenny's style? No. I'm not going to kill my kid. I'm trying to not there with a hell. You completely got in the wrong direction here, I think.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'm trying. I mean, that's a real roll of dice. I'm not rolling the dice of eternity. You know, my son did. My son's like, let's see how forgiving God really is. I didn't make that, I didn't make that gamble. So what would you do? Like, how would you keep them from hurting others?
Starting point is 00:50:43 I would just be like, hey, you know, I'm just go hide. Figure it out, dude. What am I going to do with a town? I'm the sheriff all of a sudden. How does this my responsibility? I gave him wheat, wheat loops, whatever. Wheat loops, uh, weedies. I fed them.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah. Gave him a home. I'm supposed to, I mean, I told them not to hurt animals. What are the ones supposed to do? I didn't invent mental illness. yeah so you wouldn't turn them in but you wouldn't give him safe harbor don't try to lock me down I'll do what I do I'm like hey I'll leave I'll leave a bag of a grocery bag right full of like you know just rope and um roll I like some fruit and a rope rope rope has an implication
Starting point is 00:51:28 what that is no fruit is a survival you know fruit a rope um um some duct tape you know it sounds like you know whatever I'm saying a bunch this is just this is conspiring I'm giving them options yeah if you want if you want to take care of yourself take care of yourself I know ain't my business you're my son how much am I supposed to do
Starting point is 00:51:51 if I'm supposed to like take him to the fucking I mean first of all he's like if my son's that kind of a killer I mean I like the thing like I beat my own son but I mean how old what's the age gap at this point I mean I'm not like 70 and he's 40 you know he's gonna I mean, if he's any kind of man, he's going to beat my ass for I turn him in, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Oh, I'll just turn you in, boy. Like, what? Like, they don't kill me. Your goal should be to raise the kind of son who you would be afraid to turn in. Seriously, I mean, imagine the idea that you is an elderly man is going to turn in your alpha male Chad's son who killed him of his terrorism. It's crazy to me. It's just a crazy idea. Like, what kind of a bitchmate son is he?
Starting point is 00:52:33 He's like, oh, I guess I got to be like, oh, I'll turn you in. He's like, oh, it's very, very noble of you, old man. And he just chokes me out. I'm so proud of your son. I don't agree with what you're doing, but I love that you can do it. I'm dark triad, dad. I'm proud of your abilities even if I don't agree with the method. It's all.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But a capable boy. Yeah, I mean, look, there's a lot of those other ghouls out there. Yeah. I would, um, you're, Your package idea, like your luggage idea. It almost sounds like a weird version of like the priest in Les Mez or something. It's like you can choose to take the rope and continue your crimes or you can choose to take the fruit. My luggage idea.
Starting point is 00:53:25 You mean my grocery bag of duct tape and rope and ropes and apples and rope is luggage? Yeah. All right. And it's almost like you're presenting him some kind of symbolic choice. Oh, yeah, that's my luggage. your luggage yeah a lot of my grocery plastic grocery bag full of apples and rope if that's what you mean yeah
Starting point is 00:53:41 oh it's a duct tape too yep that's my luggage yeah let's go to Tahiti sorry I mean to step on your my cheap little wordplay joke I made fun of your word play I'm sorry go ahead no you're talking about
Starting point is 00:54:00 yeah a little bit I read I didn't see the movie or the play I saw I read the book but only the first hundred or so pages and that still doesn't get to the end I think he just I think I got to the point where like he was just about to meet John Valjean
Starting point is 00:54:13 I think the play starts out with like briefly he meets his priest who lets him go right yeah like he's escaped from prison the whole first hundred pages was always just like just set up and talking about
Starting point is 00:54:23 how good of a guy that priest was just to establish how I guess how crazy that book is so I don't know but it's good it felt good like this priest is so fucking he did this and then this guy came and he fucking fed him food is so fucking good
Starting point is 00:54:38 I don't know It's been a long time Yeah It's like Frankenstein You were telling me about Frankenstein the other day That's right yeah About how I actually might listen to it today
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's not that long Yeah yeah it's a quick read It is a great book I'm gonna do it while I'm pulling turnips out On the ground I wish I had turnips on the ground That's besides the point One of the things about Frankenstein
Starting point is 00:55:01 That a lot of the movie adaptations Don't really pay attention to yeah is that by the end of the novel he's actually a pretty sophisticated creature right well i had no idea so first of all yeah it's like it's like it's set up where it's being someone's reading someone's not like an arctic trip into the arctic and they're reading the journals of frankenstein it's like a book within a book kind of thing a piste i always forget the word but it's like epistolary or something novel yeah it's told in letters yeah you know like paul's epistle to the ephesians right yeah um And then, like, yeah, he does the whole thing with, you know, steal the brain, all that's shit.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But then, yeah, he, like, but that's just a phase. Right. And then he becomes a man. He becomes a man. He becomes very eloquent. Yeah. Like, he's, you know, and a lot of the movie adaptations, he just kind of stays a half-dum thing. Is he ever in any movie, does he ever become eloquent?
Starting point is 00:55:55 I think that in this recent adaptation, they kind of do something like that. Oh, okay. Because I've always known it as, like, basically he, he, like, becomes alive. I never watched, like, closely. But Mike, I always wrote the gimmick was he, oh, it's alive, and then he immediately breaks out. Yeah. Which maybe I'm getting that wrong. Well, like, I don't know if I should spoil it, but, but.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Well, yeah, you know, he immediately breaks out, goes into a rampage, and I don't know, he might kill other people, but they chase him with torches and stuff. Like, oh, what bad people, but he just kills a little girl. Right. And it's like, oh, so they were right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But apparently that, does that happen in the book?
Starting point is 00:56:31 And then he still becomes eloquent? Like, he gets away? There's different kinds of killing that happens. happens in the book he's serial killer he kills women yeah he kills prostitutes really well he kills uh prostitutes he kills frankenstein's like fiancee or wife or someone because you wouldn't put out let me get let me get that goo let me get that goo I want the goo right is that is that is that uh spooky what's his name um and you guys
Starting point is 00:57:04 glad he said when he's like goo goo was he referring to that yeah I mean yeah he's kind of spooky right I'm saying when they said gogoo like we're my or my coining that now I want to do I want to because you can think of that as a I want the goo yeah like frankly sounds like I want that goo and she's like
Starting point is 00:57:19 no I'm engaged and he's like oh now you're dead so soft two birds of one stone huh like that's not what this is the analogy doesn't hold Anyway Spooky So the good sons
Starting point is 00:57:34 And Frankenstein So I'm going to check that out What are your other Spooky Like what is some of your I'm trying to think You know honestly as a kid Goose bumps never really did
Starting point is 00:57:46 Any heart We liked them because there was FOMO Yeah it was FOMO to it But there was one book And I'm not recommending it It was RL Stein And they always had to raise bumps on the title and it was called hit and run which I think was like basically
Starting point is 00:58:04 this is a plot of uh I don't know you did last summer but I think it came first yeah I don't know I remember that's even creepy I remember seeing and creepy as a kid to me I don't remember reading that scared um full metal jacket was the scariest thing in the world it was pretty scary the second half you always dunked on the second half yeah that sniper scene oh yeah scariest thing I've ever seen my life yeah I mean, the first, and obviously, I mean, I think you're going for the less obvious point there. That is also a scary thing. Like, it's like, but, you know, the first half is some of the most disturbing stuff I've ever seen in a movie.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Oh, yeah, but those are fun. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It is, it actually is scary, like, at least, like, you know, the whole, hit the guy with soap. Yeah. You start feeling bad. Right. Like, yeah, just a dream fat, just a bad dream fat boy.
Starting point is 00:58:58 He's like, oh. Right, like it's kind of like they're graping it. Like, they're beating him, but it feels a little bit like they're graping him. It feels like a big grape, grape juice party. Yeah. Get that grape juice. Welch's, if there were real Welch's, Welch's grape juice. And then there's the whole, like, you know, on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And he's taking matters in his own hands. If you know what I mean. But everyone loves that. Everyone says the second half isn't good. and I'm only talking about this It seems like a strip But this is actually my Probably my favorite horror thing
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah Is the second half Which is probably the creep that most I mean look him Him on the toilet Right before that goes to black Is probably like the most like Ever been like impacted by a movie scary wise
Starting point is 00:59:45 But like that whole thing with the Sipe sniper And the end of the movie Is the most like It's so spooky And he turns out to be like a 14 year old girl or whatever But she's still got gun She's not sniping She didn't seem to have a sniper
Starting point is 00:59:58 rifle though I mean she probably did you know she pulls out like an AK and starts shooting at them or whatever but like I where was her sniper rifle that I think about it must have been the kuberger's a master there must have been a sniper rifle there somewhere right was she just sniper is it possible that that she's not the sniper the one and but she just happens to be there and well she has a gun I mean if anything she's like garden for the sniper right yeah and maybe do they already get take care of the sniper before they got to her no I don't think so whatever is he it's some spirits like a ghost i guess you look i mean if you look closely maybe there is a sniper rifle it's a mystery yeah i'll solve this mystery or die trying
Starting point is 01:00:37 are we doing time are we time i i can't see anything in this mask i don't know what time it is please help me out i think we're about okay well thank you so much for tuning in and and being part of this halloween uh travesty with his majesty with us thank you and just you know remember what you know the The Lord bless us with the blood of the lamb. Just cut that lamb. Just cut the lamb open. Drink the blood.
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