Kump - Ep. 239 Ms. Rachel's Neighborhood.

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

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Visit unsmoke.ca. Hello, and welcome to Kump. Hello. Let's get right in our first story. We have Miss Rachel, Children's TV host, being named one of the anti-Semites of the year, 2025. Top 10. Top 10. We have Tucker Carlson.

We have Cynthia Nixon from the Real Housewives or the desperate. What was she? Sex in the city. She was a sex in the city. We have Sank Unger from the Turks along with his partner. And Ms. Rachel. Now, she is a children's TV presenter, and I only remember her from this. I don't know.

I'm not trying to, this is a popular clip of her. Can we play this? Let's go back to sleep, Rahaf. We're so tired. This is my friend Rahaf from Gaza. Shall we wake them with a merry tune? Now, what's the deal here? She has no leg.

She has no leg, and I think she was also missing an arm. Right. And so is that, is Miss Rachel smuggling through the child? You think that's why they call her an anti-Semite? I don't understand what, I mean, look, I'm not trying, I don't, it's a year 20, 25, a lot of different things happen. You know, we can't just take people's words for it to the not anti-Semites. Right. You know, we can't just accept the fact that, you know, um...

You think that she got this kid through Hamas? Look, this kid might be work. I might think these kids in Hamas. Like, you know, she's one of the captains. I'm just saying it's possible. Is it possible this kid has things in her, you know, uh, appendages, these metal appendages, these spider arms and legs.

Oh, my God. They smuggle in, you know, a difference in this day. Are you suggesting this child has a bomb in her prosthetic or something? Look, that's exaggerated. That's hyperbole you're laying on me. I'm just asking, is it possible she has the makings of a bomb? The trappings. Yeah, the trappings.

The, you know, the fixings for a bomb. you know the things you would use I don't know how to make a bomb I'm not a child right I don't have my arms blown off how I know how it works no this is

this clip is going around and then people were just going to look at her she's she's supporting her mask because this kid is Palestinian I guess yeah and then they don't like that I do believe in that you know collective guilt thing over in Israel I didn't really do went this far

yeah I didn't really realize that when we blow half your body up, it's your fault, collectively. Collective guilt means you also have our guilt. That's how, that's how collective guilt works. You have your guilt and our guilt together. And that's how, and as you're always guilty. Right.

Now, this is, is there more of this clip? That's basically, is she. Now, she's saying wake up soon to the corpses? No, no, no, they're singing a song to bunnies. Okay, I thought they're, they're not trying to resurrect. Like Hamas soldiers. For a second, I kind of thought that, too. I was like, are they singing to the dead of Gaza?

But no, they're singing to a hatch of a hutch of bunnies. I thought perhaps the Hamas was using her as a mage, much like in the Final Fantasy game, resurrecting. You know, imagine if you have soldiers, you don't have less soldiers than the empire, the enemy, right? The more powerful people. But you have the ability to resurrect your fallen soldiers. that could be really good. That can help you. So maybe Ms. Rachel's doing that,

but you're saying it's just a song for children. You're saying it's just a song for children. And then she's not doing that. Like the Knight King or something? Well, Night King? The Night King? The Night King? Oh, yeah.

Oh, you mean Game of Thrones? Right. Sure, I'm thinking of Final Fantasy. But yeah, a lot of role-playing games have that ability. We can resurrect people. It was very trivial almost. You buy it at a store, you know, a feather, and it brings you back to life.

video games aren't real. Let's pretend as they. Are they mocking dead people in Israel here? Look, how little bunnies? Skip little bunnies, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, she does seem to be highlighting, though, the amputated, like, a little too much, in my opinion. Let's hop again. Hop little bunnies.

I mean, why would you make her hop? I guess someone, someone in Israel might argue. It was like, are you having an amputated kid. This is the amputated, hey, it's actually amputated kids on both sides. Why are you making her a hop? Maybe. I'm just paying devil's advocate here. Are there amputated kids on both sides? I don't know.

Aren't there? I know they weren't. There's a lot of the worst stuff was debunked maybe. Drawing them into whatever, you know, on October 7th. But it was horrible stuff. Right. You can't say that wasn't. You can say other, you know, but it's just, you know, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying

to, to, to, to, to, hold water for, you know, either side. I just want to make sure that my kids' TV programming is not terroristic in nature, right? I don't want, I love to have a lot of kids. You know, I have a few kids already from different people all over the world. You do?

Well, you don't worry about it. It's just on your business. Do you guys ever baby mamas? I didn't really, if I did, I keep my, I keep it close to the vest, don't worry. My point is I don't want them I grew up with Mr. Rogers I grew up with Eureka's Castle

I grew up with you know with Spider-Man and Batman not with terrorists teaching my kids how to make a bomb that's not what I want for my kids I don't want my kids to become child soldiers all right I don't want my kids to become you know the guy from blown away

with Tommy Lee Jones and Jeff Bridges right if you get that reference I mean I remember there being some political messaging and my children's programming. Would you watch? I watched a show called Shining Time Station. Oh, with George Carlin. George Carlin played The Conductor, and there was some, like, you know, I would say

there was some Marxist rhetoric in that show. There was, like, there was an episode where he's talking about rich people and how they have little clubs and they want to keep you out of their club. Sure. Yeah. He was talking about sex clubs. Right. George Carlin was famously snubbed by a lot of swingers in Hollywood.

Hollywood. He liked to tell a good joke or two. I love George Carlin, but he was famously cocked by the Hollywood system. But no, that's fine. So what do we have? In all series, I don't, I don't think Ms. Rachel's a terrorist. I did look at the article slightly, and they seem to have some theories about why she's holding water for Hamas. Is Ms. Rachel not Jewish? I have no idea who she is. I mean, I don't know what she's get? What channel is she on? Is she a YouTuber? I think she's a YouTuber. I actually watched Miss Rachel for the first time recently.

Oh, yeah? Watching my godson. My new godson. Oh, right, yeah. And, you know, she's very sweet. She goes, yay. She calls them, she calls them littles, right? Yeah.

I don't like that. I think a lot of people call them littles now. Yeah, I mean, she's like little people, like Peter Dinklage. I don't think we should look, but they're called little people. And you know what I call them, but I don't know, you know, with that no hate, but I feel like little people's demeaning. I've always fought that. But I'm not one of them, right? Obviously.

I'm the furthest thing from a little person. So I don't need to be speaking for them. But I don't like in an age where Peter Dinklage and his ilk, whatever, however we want to put that, call themselves little people. I don't think it's great to call children littles. You think it gets confused. I think it confuses the issue. Right. And I think I don't like anything that confuses that issue.

I don't think is any bad. The other fit to confusing kids of adults, ever, even when they're small. I guess the idea behind littles is that, like, is that there might be some families where somebody's raising a younger person, but it's not actually their child. Somebody's raising their little sister. But it's still a child. Yeah, that's true. It's calling kids. You could just call them children.

You just don't say your kids. Say the kids at home. Yeah. You know, hey, it doesn't matter if you're being raised by a man. a woman or two men or two criminals, two gangsters, two drug smugglers, two terrorists. They're just littles. It's just a way of equalizing everything. So we have an article.

You have someone from actual context on this? Yes. So a pro-Israel group blasted for anti-Semite of the year list featuring Miss Rachel and leaving off far-right figures. So they're not even mad that she's on the list. just a ranking. It does seem cowardly in the sense that like she is a children's programmer

so she's limited in like what she can respond with. Right. You know, it's like she's got to remain appropriate to that mission. I mean, I don't, like, if she pulled out a gun sometime. Yeah.

Like, hey, this, this video is only for no little, like, no, the thumbnail just says no littles to, no littles today. No little's allowed. Yeah. It's just like, hey, this one's not, for the littles so take them away and she goes earmuffs and i eyeballs gone right uh are they gone are they gone okay she posed like gone you think i don't know how to use this i've been using this

they told me how to use this in jordan in 84 in Beirut i'm standing i'm about this life I mean No But yeah What can she respond to What But point is like is she What is the accusation?

Does this article have the accusation? But it's also like The other thing is It's just that She also just genuinely Like doesn't strike me as an anti-Semite So it's like somebody who is an ant Like you know

Is somebody like Tucker Carlson Right Might be more of a toss-up You know what he says and thinks And private Well the anti-Semite is often used a very broad sense for things that, you know, might just be criticisms.

But in this case, you know, I feel like, do we have there, like, bring up the other article. Bring up the one with the actual thing first. What do you mean, the other article? The one that, the, this. Well, this thing. Right. Is that just a picture?

Yeah. Oh, well, all right. But, like, they actually accuse her of stuff in the article. Well, let's see. Miss Rachel became a household name with her hitcher. show engaging babies and toddlers.

However, since her rise to fame, she appears to have transformed into a mouthpiece for Hamas. Now she spreads vile propaganda against the Jewish state to over 20 million followers across multiple accounts, outnumbering the entire global population of Israelis and Jews. Ms. Rachel, no stranger to controversy, has previously dabbled in politics, but quickly refocused on her brand and catering to children until October 7th. After the October 7th massacre, she began incorporating Hamas propagated images and stories into her content. So these are some of the examples they use.

This is a post from her saying, blocking food and water to children is indefensible. Well, she didn't say, no, it seems fine. Blocking food and water to children is cruel. It's pretty loaded. this is what they're putting that is this is this what dog whistling is i don't this this seems crazy to me i thought they'd be i thought they'd be more to this i don't they'd be like well she hung out with you know solomon laden back in the 90s or or something right uh 300 more Palestinian children killed over 15,000 Palestinian children killed total stop bombing

children that's not that's what I feel like stop bombing children might be a bit naive. I don't know how modern warfare works. I'm not a soldier. I'm not a general. I don't want to offend people who bomb. I don't know. Sometimes maybe it has to happen, right? I'm sure America bombed plenty of children in Iraq. But I just can't understand. Like, when someone says, when someone makes the point, hey, stop bombing children, I feel like your response to be like, hey, we'd love to. We'd love to stop bombing children. And we're going to try. Maybe you don't I mean... Well, we want to get to that point as

quickly as you do. We want to bomb as little children as humanly possible. Right. We clearly don't. You're dropping bombs. We want to do less of that. We love for that to happen.

I just don't understand the idea of going like, you're such a stop bombing children. A, you're a racist. Stop being racist. Tell me to stop bombing children. You crazy racist. They're bored of this or is this? There's also, they claim that she

makes claims that were debunked. I'm not so sure about that, but she has a long list of offenses driven by Hamas and UNRWA. Isn't it like the organization for refugees? I don't know.

Data rather than credible sources, including claiming to have seen photos of starving children with protruding limbs. However, this was quickly debunked as a misrepresentation of a child with cystic fibrosis. Oh, so back when they kept saying those kids are starving and they're like, no, they

have diseases, and she shared that, which we know when, no one really got to the bottom of that. I think I remember seeing that picture. Yeah, a few of those, yeah. I mean, maybe I don't understand what cystic fibrosis is, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't like, you know, it just doesn't make all the fat on your body disappear. Yeah, I thought it was when you had like weird stuff inside you. Yeah.

Not like we were hungry. But, you know, I'm not a doctor. Again, I'm not a doctor, so whatever. I mean, look, this is this, this does seem like a very baseless thing. and people now this other thing you were showing me before

what was the article saying that they're just mad that she got ranked as high as she did like how are you going to put her there and not put

a you know like does Nick Fuentes on there yeah oh yeah there was leaving out self-avowed

Nazi Nick Fuentes in exchange for celebrities children's advocates and other activists simply because they said Israel should stop

massacring children and genociting Palestinians well they're probably saying groipers gonna groip is what their point

But it's anti-Semite of the year Yeah, I know, but yeah It's kind of like Oh, well, you know, it's like We can't Like the point is it is to name them right Not to get them to stop I think your point that even if it's less like

You know, look this this award used to be pure This would be a pure award You gave it based on merit Right Not based on who you want to take down Yeah Right and now you know You used to be like

If a guy was like maybe You know, a guy might say some vile stuff but not have his usual following, right? But he was saying this nasty stuff about Jews and in Israel and just really, and he only had a couple hundred thousand followers, you'd give them the award because you really put the effort in.

And now, people like Ms. Rachel, they get the award for nothing. They get the award just because they have big followings and it's wrong. It's a wrong, it's a cruel thing to do the art. You know, art used to mean something in America. You used to, you know, it wasn't a lot of popularity contest. Yeah, the nepotism really has to end.

The nepotism and anti-semitism, the nepotism in the anti-semite of the year has to, really have to, they got to stop that. It's too much nepotism in this award. No, but yeah, I mean, like. I mean, they should just, or at least they should just rename it, like, uh, mid-woman we kind of think is uninformed of the year. Yeah. Well, you think she's mid? Now you're going after her? that's bold

so when I was attacking her because she's not hot enough I'm just if the award is for the most mid anti-Semite what happens

if you Google Miss Rachel hot let's see I don't want is she is she like a is she a baby these aren't even

these are yeah there are some cute pictures of her so she's all right looking this is

no I wasn't talking about mid in terms of look oh all right I thought you meant that she's not right looking Like, it should just be middling anti-Semite.

Middling anti-Semite, right, yeah. Middling, yeah. Right, so, I mean, the point is, Nick Fuentes is a very popular guy who's been very critical of the existence of Jews or just what they do. Look, I mean, vocal about them not being his favorite people. Yeah, and questioning a lot of things

that people say you shouldn't question. Yeah. You know, like, there's just housing laws or Holocaust, things, you know, There's just things that are intended to be hot water issues. I've never heard Ms. Rachel deny the Holocaust. Yeah, right, exactly. Denying the Holocaust.

That used to mean something. That used to mean something. You know, getting other people to doubt the Holocaust. Right. That used to be a huge thing. Right. You know, it's in the same way that you thought, in social media terms, right? You used to think that followers meant something.

It's all about getting followers, and then you talk to your followers. You attract followers with your stuff, whether it was tweets or your, or how that. on Instagram or your little dances on TikTok. You get a following. And then you have people you can speak to when you want to sell your gear, when you want to sell your merch or your book, right? But now they've changed the algorithm now. So anyone can get viral at any time, sort of,

just because it's all about retention, right? And just and just and like, so it's everything's got to be everything. So it doesn't matter that you've convinced, you know, a couple million people, the Holocaust isn't real. Uh, it's got to be, uh, you know, you have, you have to be doing it with a child dancing. If you're a child's not dancing. If you're not delegitimizing, I've lost a threat here. I'm not sure how even you even make the argument here.

She just dances with crippled kids, right? I thought this was nice. I thought this would be like, wait, look, this is the kind of thing where you would just go, Hey, Ms. Rachel, we all love Ms. Rachel. Yeah. Miss Rachel's fun. It's like going to Mr. Rogers. Now, I know Mr. Rogers didn't get involved in the Boer Wars or whatever.

That was the 80-Hunders, actually. Whatever was going to Falk, he didn't get involved in the Falkland Wars, right? He didn't take a side in the Falklands, I don't think. Right. The fight between Argentina and Britain in, like, the 70s, to his fault. Kind of spineless of him not to, right? Spineless coward. Yeah, there's this rumor going around that Mr. Rogers was a Navy seal.

You ever heard that? Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't think it's true. all. He might have been in the Navy at one point, but I don't think he was a seal. I don't think it's part of Devgrove. But, you know, but it doesn't seem to bear, because he really didn't speak out of his war. Do you think anything about Vietnam? You say anything by Nicaragua back in the day, the Contras? Why wasn't he protecting the St.onistas? You know,

what kind of man was he? It's, it's also like when Miss Rachel weighs in on the stuff. Yeah. It's not like she's saying, you know, Israel doesn't have a claim to this land or from the river to the sea. She's not saying river to seas. She's really just saying, can we not bomb kids? Can we not start?

She's not questioning, like, you know, where did they get the money for October 7th? Who gave it to them? Or anything like that. Why were there so many holes in security? Right. She's not making claims about BB, right? His corruption and what he and like, you know, was he funding? I've never heard.

I don't know if she, I don't think she's doing that. Right. Correct. Tell me if I'm wrong. I thought she was dancing with children. I think I, a lot of people are saying I do kind of agree that this, all of the other stuff doesn't matter. Candace Owens accused Israel of shooting Charlie Kirk, right? Yeah, that's true.

I mean. Well, I think she won it last year. Oh, she really won. No doubles. An anti-Semite of the year. See, again, look, if you, if you have. Just like, didn't someone win Best Picture two years in a row? Didn't Russ a Crow?

Oh, yeah. People win stuff all the time. Yeah. I mean, that really degrades of your awards because we already got to reduce this melon already. Right. I don't like that. Yeah. The best man win.

Yeah. Or woman. Yeah, if somebody shows up every year and does the best they can. You get nominated. You can be nominated. You can say no one's going to fault you if you don't give her the actual award. Now, this is top ten. Are they going to announce a winner?

I'm not sure. they might yeah okay yeah I think they do announce a winner usually so yeah I'm no one saying that that candidates should win but I do think that if you're gonna put you not put her on the list after she famously accuses Charlie you know Kirk who being killed by Israel yeah which seems you know like she has she does bring up interesting points about a lot of things let's just say I can't I can't speak to the veracity of anything it just seems that seems more offensive to them than dancing with children right I mean Did Kanye ever win anti-Semite?

Oh, he did, okay, in 2022. Oh, he put the work in. Yeah. Kanye, he's ahead of the game. He won his award with no one knew where it was. Oh, man. Did any of the synagogue shooters ever win anti-Semite of the years? That's a good point.

Can we go back and see the, so you think Dylan Roof should have gotten it? Was that synagogue? Was that church? Well, that was a church. Okay. There have also been a few, you know, synagogue shooters over the years. No. I don't think it does any good propaganda-wise to do that.

It wouldn't be, it wouldn't come off quite as like a tongue-cheek. Illinois for being titled. That's right. The board of, one of the board of directors of, uh, or chairs of Ben and Jerry's got it. Okay. Would they make, one really specific one? They could have just done Ben-N-Jerry. October 7th, Arnold Sherbert?

October 7th. Crunch? I don't know. October 7-up crunch. It's a 7-Up flavored ice cream. No one liked it. So they're putting the whole squad up here. Yeah.

They're getting around to the whole squad. I mean, they say Mothel Tov, Candice Owens. It's a very, like, telling cheek. Right. Yeah, this is not, doesn't seem like serious people who make this award. I wouldn't worry about it. But I do think, like, all of the other stuff they mentioned, the photos that they claim to be fake. Yeah.

Whether they are or they're not, that's not really what it's about. I think it's about this video. Because this is like, this is scary moving. No, yeah. So play it again a little bit. You know, I don't want to dwell on this. This is a sad story. Yeah.

Is this kid still alive? Hopefully. Hopefully. Play this kid. I mean, she just cut to the white shot. Skip little bonnie. Skip, little bonnie. Skip, skip, skip, skip.

Ben, stop. Let's hop. Again, hop little bunnies, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. I mean, honestly, it does seem like, uh, it does. It's very humanizing. It is very humanizing. It is, it's better, it's better propaganda than you think, you think Hamas typically comes up with. It's the, you know what I mean, it seems like, because like, it's like, you know when they're watching it and they're like, ah, and she's like, hop with a bunny.

Like, oh, you motherfucker, hop? You're making them hop now? There's nothing more telling than making that one-arm land hop. You know, that you know what you're doing there. That's no accident. She knows exactly what she's doing it. You know that kid will never hop again because of us. So, yeah, I mean, where would you, like, if it was the top 50.

What we do it? Top 50, where are you ranking her? of anti-Semites yeah i i wouldn't rank her on any list of anti-semites i don't think she is one well yeah i'm not going to go that far i let him even even uh even uh point of view uh i like to you know i like to look for speak for itself okay but so where would you rank her on a list of 50 yeah i think i think somewhere in the 40s or 30s 30s 30s you don't give her top top top 25 is always is always give her 27 because 26 looks too obviously we were waiting to get at the top 25 27 that's respectful then you can go look look you can argue well look she's you know she she she may

not have meant to be but she did the most damage to us that that might be a self-owned right that might not be the best peer for yourself but they feel like that could seem legitimate to go hey thinking outside the box on this one number 27 goes with miss rachel now hear me out you know like that's the thing but when you give her the top 10 what was she number three or something right yeah it just seems that you're you're gilding the lily or something

it's just silly yeah it's just it's being losing credibility by the minute this is another thing that came up was was her response to this uh Sarah Hurwitz what's this who is a pro-Israel pundit is that her that was Rachel

this is this is Hurwitz oh that's her oh okay She's telling him as original Or not, I don't know They do kind of look similar Yeah Let's see What she had to say

We're kind of entering a post-literate society And if like all day long Your brain is just smashed Again and again by TikTok With really upsetting Cardage in Gaza Then like they're you're talking And like not to I'm sorry if this is a graphic thing to say

But like when I'm trying to make arguments In favor of for Israel I realize I'm talking through a wall of dead children Like that's what people are seeing So when I'm like, yeah, but it's 1.5 civilians for, they're just the incarnate. But that's the emotional blackmail. I mean, fair enough. Well, it's also just dead kids.

Yeah, it's also just in reality, dead children. Where, who built the wall of dead children? I'm just asking. I love the idea, like, I'm trying to bring up arcane stats, and they just don't, all they see is a dead kid. I'm trying to say, right, but it's 1.5 to the pie, radius squares. And they're like, but dead kids. I'm trying to talk to them about population density.

Right, yeah. And they just keep saying, but you're killing all these kids. I'm yelling per capita as they're holding a dead baby. Canada's Wonderland is bringing the holiday magic this season with Winterfest on select nights now through January 3rd. Step into a winter wonderland filled with millions of dazzling lights, festive shows, rides, and holiday treats. Plus, Coca-Cola is back with Canada's kindest community. celebrating acts of kindness nationwide with a chance at 100,000 donation

for the winning community and a 2026 holiday caravan stop. Learn more at Canada's Wonderland.com Yeah, it seems crazy. Is she actually there or this is the person responding to Ms. Rachel? So this was like something that she said at a conference.

It was recent, right? Pro-Israel conference. relatively recently and Miss Rachel addressed it this was another recent thing recently the phrase a wall of dead children was used casually to describe 20,000 precious children killed in Gaza

the children who were brought up the children were brought up not to talk about how 20,000 children shouldn't have been killed but about how images of them get in the way imagine that phrase being used to describe any other situation where children were killed it wouldn't be I promise you that every child

child was someone's baby, someone's universe, they were not a wall, they were 20,000 worlds. Yeah, look. I mean... It just seems like she just cares about kids. Yeah, or the very elite. Look, you have to know when someone has the high ground. Right. Right? Yeah. It's just like,

I'm not... Because I do, I am open to the idea in theory that like, yeah, someone could go around and like cherry pig and go, well, you killed kids here. And like, well, let's go look at all the awards and see... Now, I'm not saying that Israel hasn't killed a lot of disproportionate. I don't know. Right.

I mean, it does seem to be a disproportionate level of bombing of somewhat indiscriminate targets. Yeah. But I'm no expert. I know general, I guess I said before. But that being said, I just can't understand the response to, like, hey, you bomb these kids. You don't understand. You would have to read the Klauskians, Art of War, or whatever these, you know. Do you understand how a predator's drone even works?

No, I just have a baby's arm in my hand. Is this your baby's arm, anyone, anyone? I don't know. Like, it just seems a little crazy to me. Like, this is a situation where it would be a, like, it would actually make more sense, be more respectable to, like, adopt the attitude of, like, that Sherman quote

you like to bring up all the time. Oh, you know, General Sherman was, uh, he wasn't, he was like the second to grant, basically. Right. And, you know, a lot of people know he is, but he's the guy who did the march to the south, march along the south or whatever. basically he went to he burned down Atlanta and then he went to Savannah he basically went

down south and he go I'm about to do the worst thing that anyone's ever done right and he just did like he'd be like burn down the crops he would like pull up the we'd make what's called sherman ties where you'd have the men pull up the railroads right and then like bend them around trees so you couldn't even like put him back in and look it's you as a kid you get kind of like, oh, this is crazy, wow, yeah, badass car. He created the idea of total war, basically, or at least in the modern age, where, like, you know, which extended into World War I, where it used to be people just lined up somewhat, you know,

and, like, you know, fall each other in a field, sort of, as opposed to, like, killing everyone in the town. Now, it's not a clean break, but, you know, you get the idea. And, yeah, he's, I'm going to do the worst thing anyone's ever done. Which is... Like, it would almost be more respectable to do adopt that attitude of, like, She's obviously a very gentle soul. Right.

You know, it's like, war is hell. Yeah. We've done horrible things. Right. Like, you know. It's like, but it's just like, how could you? Right. How could you say that the 20,000 kids are dead?

Right. No, like Apocalypse Now is all about like, you know, this, you're fighting people who are willing to do anything. Right. And you're having this kind of antiseptic thing. And to argue that, you know, like perhaps, you know, we need to not, you know, you can You could make a logical argument that, like, by being more brutal up front, you can save lives in the end or make a better world in the end. That gets messy, right? Yeah.

That immediately opens up the door and people start manipulating that. But there's an argument there. There's a way of looking at things, right? Yeah, but it's, yeah, to your point to go, look, I just don't understand how you can have a problem with killing babies. I just think it's really, really racist and the same negative view. you're a terrible person um shame shame on you go to hell that seems to be what they're saying to her and look it's one way of looking at the world is one way of uh analyzing but yeah look there were not one wall there were 20,000 worlds i look i mean is every baby precious

maybe it's a fair argument to be brought up i mean i don't like the idea it's a baby right to me, I have some sympathy for the Ms. Rachel going, these are 20,000 precious babies. Babies are inherently precious. Like, whatever you want to use the term precious for, I get it. I agree. But to say precious, maybe that's

empty smelly. They call baby precious. I, I'm open-minded. Uh, let's move. You know, have we squeeze the Mr. Rachel story? Ms. Rachel Lemon? Yeah.

Oh, and then just one more post. I kept a brief in this one. Wanting kids to live isn't anti-Semitic. Says you, Miss Rachel. Says you. Says the anti-Semite of the ear. Hey, hey, hey, that sounds all great and all. But you don't see me on that list, do you?

Because I don't have enough followers. What's this next rule? You say that, but I doubt your premise that every kid is freshness and I'm not named on the top 10 anti-Semites of the year. It's true. It's a true story. The true, that's a true thing. So now,

what are we moving on to? This TradLife thing? You brought this up. What is this? I don't even know. It's, who, Matthew English, this is the guy from one of those things, Matthew Iglesiasis. I don't, I have a better thing to bring up. Okay.

I was thinking about AI, an AI robot. And aerobots, you could have... It's an important topic. Yeah. Well, you know, people are starting to have sex with them or wanting to. You're starting to have, be able to make machines that you could pump or hump, right? Yeah, the artificial wombs. You could maybe put a womb in one of those things.

You could put a womb to that a robot. Then you could have sex with a robot. They could give you a baby. Amazing. And I'm assuming the other way around, too. You could put, you know, my testes into a robot. It could go to work. if one of us is tragically killed.

I wanted to discuss how cool we'd be with a robot replacing either one of us to each other. Like a... So if I'm shot to... If I'm assassinated for my statements about Ms. Rachel. If I'm gunned down the streets. But if Israel decides that I was too anti-Semitic

just in the past half hour, somehow, even though I seem to be, you know, giving them slight benefits of the doubt, they decided that I was being, you know, I was actually gilding the lily, which, again, I don't know what that means. I like saying it now. Is that not using it correctly?

Gilding the lily. Is that what gilding the lily? I don't think so. I just like saying gilding the lily. Can you look at what that means, by that way, real quick? Gilding the lily. I think it means, like, beat a dead horse or something. A necessary ornamentation.

You can argue I was basically, hey, you were toning cheek defending us for comedy. You were gilding the lily. They might be right. And they said a death squad assassinated to me. In that case, what, um... Oh, do, so... Oh, would you be okay?

Would you want to replace me with a robot that looks like me somewhat? And would you be... Or vice versa. If you were assassinated because Israel said very clearly she was one. Pushing the, you know, leading the charge against Israel. Killed in the Lilly. She was killed in the Lilly. Would you be okay with me having a robot Lucy replace me?

A trad, a trad robot Lucy. And here's where it gets into dicey things. Right. Would it be okay for us to maybe perfect each other? To remove certain traits or add traits. Would that be infidelity? Look, if I died tragically and you respect, and you replace me with a perfect,

one-to-one kind of robot. As best as best as as Dow Chemical could replace your brain and personality. Yeah. Dow Chemical becomes very good in robots soon in my version. I would think that was very romantic. Sure. You know, I would think if you perfected me,

have you turned me into a bit of a stepford wife. Well, yeah, I was going to say, I love you and you're perfect the way you are, your wife. But that being said, just for the sake of argument here, Like, like, just a generic husband-wife. I'll replace my wife, but give her big tits. Would you have great tit?

But I'm just, you know what I'm just, you know, like, I'm just saying that that's kind of what I'm, or, you know, or like, or dick, give her a dick. That could be fun too? I mean, could you swap them out? Ooh. Now you're cooking. Because she, could it be a thing like a transformer robot where it literally just like, I don't have to, like, unscrew her dick, you know, I mean, it just goes inside. Right. I mean, now we're cooking with gas, you know, or like, yeah, because you make me to have a bigger dick or, you know, better shape or just, you know, more hair, less angry, you know, don't rant as much, not as abusive.

You know, this is, this is all, now we're getting into some murky territory morally. I mean, because they use the thing. Because, you know, I would, I think I would trust us to do it. Right. Us to play around like that. Sure. But the implications are dangerous because, like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like. Well, I think what you get.

You start to worry, like, would people, like, murder their spouse? Well, that's exactly what I was thinking. I was exactly what I was thinking. Are you created perversion? Because everyone's like, why not? Why not deprive myself? Because people on the age of the day that don't think things through. And they really don't care about moral hazard.

With people on Twitter. I mean, I'm sure dreds, too. I don't read. Like, I put myself on Instagram real. I mean, I read threads. It's like, uh, these people are very, like, it's just the opposite of Twitter. I mean, it's a bunch of assess pool as X can be. So is threads.

I knew where people talk nowadays is that point. No one's talking well. Including me. When I talk, I'm just yelling about Pulp Fiction sucks. Because I watch this week, it wasn't as good as the rest of the stuff. And I was, it was ranting about Tarantino. People got very mad. whatever.

My point is, yeah, because I go, why not be able to add this or that? You mind why? My money, sure. But yeah, you are creating a moral hazard where, like, you could just, you know, you could just replace her with the best, you know, I want my wife to have bigger tits and not to nag me about cleaning. Right.

You know, and then like bang, bang. Now, I guess it's always the case. But there's a thing. It's like, look, look, people are, I don't think this way. But people are. nasty people and the less they have going on materially or if I didn't have like this creative outlet for instance

I don't like I have no hobbies but like you know I lived my life in such a way where I didn't necessarily you know grab the bull by the horns and like develop a great career other than this so it's not about people having nothing going on in their head but you know when people feel like they got beat by life they can get a little bitter and I'm just saying

that person go why not why don't I why not just do this you know and they're held back because well who are going to get to replace this woman right exactly I'm describing I'm describing not a great

not a man that anyone we want to admit to be like but it's just like it's a reality of the world part of our nature right we kind of accept that guys with tremendous wealth yeah kind of do this sometimes they have options right They don't even have to, because they can just afford a divorce.

They can afford a divorce, or if they really want to, they could maybe get their wife disappeared. Yeah, they have. And then get a younger, hotter. Sure, yeah. There's a spectrum here. Right. But, you know, guys in a certain situation, but with a robot, here's the way I don't understand what this technology. It's like, I never understand why it's going to be affordable than me.

We're getting to an age where it's like, why does the world need me? But whatever, they're going to offer me a fucking wife that's like, I guess like a body. I guess I could buy it on mortgage is the point. Yeah. You can't really buy a new wife on mortgage right now. You used to, maybe you used to be able to maybe. Because you would just get it from the dad and he'd actually pay you for the wife. That's the thing.

We talked about this recently. It used to be the dad would pay the guy to take the one for hands. Right. Which I don't understand. If you have a hot daughter, then what, like, you pay him less? I guess the idea is, the idea is you pay the initial. I guess if she married really rich It might not matter

Right But if you were Marrying her off to some middle class guy It may be like enriches your family In the end Because he sends his back old trinkets Right Like he's here

Like go you or he'll invite you You can go stay at his house Yeah Because he has good prospects and stuff And then also it's like one less person Under your roof That's the initial thing Yeah you get taken over with my hands

Right. That's, that's accepted. But you watch, what's the movie you love? Pride and Prejudice. Pride and Prejudice, yeah. You know, like, but I guess they get to go party and make asses themselves at the fucking house. Right. Which, you know, what's his name?

Mr. Mr. what? Mr. Darcy? Yeah. You know, you would think he'd be like, ah, don't worry about it. You know, you're fucking, I get it. If I didn't have money, I'd act this way, too. But he was this hero of the story was like, they embarrassed themselves. They were disgusting.

Disgusting. Disgusting pigs. Yeah. So it's like, your mother is a pig of a woman. Right, right. That's like the hottest scene in the movie. Yeah. It's when he's telling Elizabeth, your mother is a disgusting pig of a woman.

You act like, I'm a bad guy, but you brought your family, and they acted so impressed by money and things, which things when I take it for granted because I was born rich. I was born rich as you can possibly imagine. This is a guy whose house, it was literally, it makes a saltburn house look like dog shit, right? Oh, yeah. This guy is Darcy. If you see, I mean, I don't know in the book if that's accurate, but. It makes it look like a tacky. Yeah, yeah.

No, no. Like in the book, when the movie they made with, it's Tom from Succession. And he played them and Kira Knightley. And when they go,

that house they show in a movie at least is so fucking huge. It's a cat, it's like, it's like Versailles or something. And this guy is like, they're actually so trashy when they came to the lower house.

They came to, or his friend's house or something, right? Right. And it was like, he was just so disgusted by these people. The equivalent of like their cabin. Right. Yeah.

Their summer cabin. Right. It's, you know, and it's a giant palace, too. Right, also a giant palace. And it's just like, he's like disgusted these people who basically live in a glorified farmhouse. Yeah. We're like, who still managed to put on dresses and suits and like making a decent appearance, right? They weren't in like rags per.

He thought they were rags, but they weren't real rags. That he was disgusted with these people. Why were we even talking with him? I got a second to something weird thing about his friend. prejudice we're talking about robots we got on the subject of dowries somehow right right so i mean that guy why would that guy like what what does her family get like he has his hot daughter i'll secure nightly yeah hot daughter no no no argument there right roland pike's also one their daughters back in the day right but they're hot daughters and all he gets is taking her off my

hands like he doesn't get like does he get a little bit something back is my point i think ultimately he does get something back because like I think the sisters that also like when when the older sisters marry rich the younger sisters their prospects improve right so the whole family just kind of

gets elevated into a different even if they're not getting money directly because it might be like it's like the whole family kind of gets elevated the name gets better the name gets better yeah that's what I care about is my name the company the point is

that's what you used to get when you're hot daughters Now you don't get shit. Yeah. Right. Now a guy's got to pay for a hot daughter. Right. You should be given to you. Yeah.

You know what I was like fucking. Like I would pay you to take it. I actually, no, not giving to you. Pay. You have to pay a guy to take off your hands. That's my point. Yeah. True.

So now you can just pay for a robot. That's right. It's a reverse thing. We're getting back to a point. You were hitting on something before where like the really disturbing thing. Yeah. It's just like the. price point for all of these things.

Right. Like, you know, being kind of achievable. Like, a well-paid computer program or can have a robot wife. Yeah. Yeah, but it will be, you know, that will be the case in like five to ten years probably. Though you also kind of made a good point that it's like, by that point, if you really could do that. Yeah. Isn't that, aren't we all just kind of in a position at that point where we're replaceable?

Well, I didn't think. Like, are they really going to give the guy, those alienated guys robot wives? or are they just going to send them to the large mines? Well, what's what I'm saying. I had this argument with Tim on his Patreon recently. And, you know, it was the episode where we were talking about

it came out recently that we all be putting, me and you would be put in buildings. We'd be in building four. And he's still being a building, building six. We don't have houses or not us. And then, like, my fundamental

of this agreement, though, was like, why would they keep me alive? Which he seems to think, his argument was that basically there's like, that basically it would just be too messy which maybe

but yeah the best case they're putting you in a building though you're not getting a robot wife right you're not getting these things I think we agreed on that at least you know you're not going to kill you but you're not going to get the trappings of

AI you might get a petri dish right to come into I guess and then they grow and then they take your your come to a plant right and they put it in one of like the thousands of of artificial wounds.

You can buy a flashlight that has like an attachment. Right. Like the certified for like whatever the app is. Yeah. You know, you know, like 23 of me is the genetics app, right? Don't be something for like this. Fleshlight wounds. If you're a normal guy, it's not going to be a whole girlfriend experience.

No. No. Are you picturing that to be a guy who has like a wife who just, it's just not working? Well, I'm also just imagining guys like who might be fantasizing about this because they're just like, they're not getting the wife in the first place. They want a baby?

But they want a baby. You're going to take care of the baby. Yeah. I don't think any guy who wants a baby by himself. That's not, no one's, I mean, if it happens,

it happens, but like, you know, if you're John Favre or Danae made taking that girl because like FAMK Jansen's, I just want to be a whore. Right.

Literally. Yeah. I just want to be a drug whore. You take the kid. You like, he made a regs, you made her pasta earlier in the movie. And he's like,

I guess. I think that's a him. I mean, that's a great movie. Wasn't as popular as swingers, but I liked it. You liked Maine, right, Vince Vaughn? I did. That was a good movie. But it's weird that he'd the kid at the end.

I don't think most men want that. Like babies. But I'm not choosing to have a baby by myself. Well, I think that the situation has gotten so, you know, well, you also have an avenue to these things, like, you know, the traditional way, semi-traded way anyway. Right. Like, it's like, I think, I think that some guys have just become so alienated and frustrated.

Right. But they've started fantasizing about the baby and not, and they've scratched out the woman entirely. I mean, it doesn't seem weird, though, because, like, you could just, you could just inseminate. Can you just do that now, though? Can you just, like, ask for some, I guess they want to sell the egg? There's no market, right? There's no market mechanism now for the egg to just be available to inseminate. Yeah.

You can, you can find a surrogate. They could get a surrogate, I guess. So, yeah, if they really want that, why aren't they? doing that. Right. I mean, guys who have money aren't really that alienated, I think. I don't think guys who have good jobs. They might not get the, like, if you're focused on getting what, you know, what's considered the 10 out of 10 of anything, stop it. Like, it's like, it's like, stop trying to find that. Right. Whatever that means. If you get lucky, like I did, but like, what are you going to? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, but no, but it's like,

what are you going to, people are too fixated on like, on finding like these metrics. People want to have data points. It's the matter. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. They overwhelm you with emotion. It's always going to be,

you did. Yeah. But it's, yeah, it's always going to be, there's always going to be a luxury version of these things. Right. That is out of your reach, probably. Right. They'll make you, they'll buy the gummy bears and have the tits.

send the ass to let you do the anal during the Super Bowl while she's making nachos. I mean, it's not going to feel real. That clap for you while you play video while you play video games. You're not going to want it. That's a thing.

You think these are all like you're going to click these boxes and go, why is she doing the anal while I'm watching Rick and Morty? You know, it doesn't make sense. It's uncanny Valley. You know, it's not a real person anymore.

I don't know what people want. People, and like, it's just like, oh, I don't know. They don't ask me to do anything. Like, oh, you just don't do it. Just be a bad husband. What are you talking about, bro? People have always done that. The alpha move is to have a computer program.

No, it isn't. The alpha move is wasting some woman's time and be mean to her while she makes you a sandwich. It's not nice. It's not good. It's not virtuous. I love the idea that being alpha, I mean, virtue and alpha don't go together.

Alpha is the guy that the virtuous guy is, like, protecting you from. Right. The alpha guy is like the fucking Viking. Yeah. It's the marauder. It's the, it's the heretic in the Middle Ages. You know, it's the Muslims when you were fighting the Crusades.

Or maybe you're the alpha. Depends on the battle, right? Right. It's barbarians, the barbarian horde. It's the thing you're fighting, it's typically, unless you're, like, just crushing peasants, then you're the alpha, I guess. But it's not a virtuous thing. Right. So my point is like, you know, oh, I'll just, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, like, I'll, I'll, like, a thing now, like, as, like, as, as, like, this guy's the most, I'm the best debater, and one the most popular debater is in the red pill. It wasn't, like, take, I get, I get, I get, you take the red pill, but the red pill is now, like, a genre.

Right, like the manosphere or something. You know, you call it the red pill, which is interesting. Like they all live in a red pill. Right. He's one of the, like, he was when that Andrew Wilson guy came up. And like, he's one of the most prominent debaters in the red pill. I just got, I just started, you know, I have captivated my mind. So what would you, yeah, I guess you, I think there should be a law that says you can't

modify, you can, you can recreate your spouse, but you can't modify it. Huh, that's, yeah, that's interesting. You can't modify a living person You can recreate them one to one You can you it's like you it's like buying life insurance It'll be like it'll be like trying to Okay, all right yeah It'll be your life insurance policy

Yeah and you'll be able That's okay here we go We landed on something But that might be a good ethical kind of regulation It won't be you can't just buy that right It can only be got through like a life insurance policy Where they recreate it one to one And you have to kind of go for like

like right now you get you get a health inspection and whatever for life insurance to make sure you don't have like a terminal disease or whatever I think usually right yeah you have to do it like that um how did Walmart do that they didn't give me people health uh exams I guess they got they had health exams but they don't give health insurance

right didn't Walmart get help like take like insurance policies out on his elderly like elderly employees right yeah I remember hearing about that it's weird who would give you a life insurance policy getting on an old man. That just seems crazy. Like, he's going to die pretty soon. Is that actually a true?

Whatever. We'll look into that movie next week. But the point is, what's my point? Oh, the point is you can only because, yeah, you're not going to be able to afford this typically. It's an insurance policy. A lot of people will get it.

And so if your spouse dies, you can replace them. That's actually feasible. Right. That's actually something that, you know, and you can't modify it. You can't give them big tits. not only that you not only can you not modify it but it's going to be a little bit shittier yeah like you know you know like when you ask chat gbt to take a real picture of someone right

and and imitate it like you know you iterate it yeah but just like change one thing yeah and it creates like some awful like you know like a disgusting like ghoul version of the thing yeah that's what you get yeah and the better your insurance the less ghoulish it can be right right Like, you might, like, you would, the stuff you get through your basic, I've had jobs where they give you, like, a basic life insurance policy. You know, it doesn't do much. That, like, that, that level of it will give you a ghoul. Yeah. You know, someone to watch the kids, basically.

Right. That's what, like, that's what, like, on some level, it'll just be someone who's, like, kind of reminds you of your wife who watches the kids. Right. So you're not, you don't want to quit your job or, like, or lose all your money on daycare. But, like, on the higher end, when you pony up. you get a fucking pretty good thing but never better they'll be there'll be blurring of the lines right people go to jail for this maybe well they probably never go to jail but it's supposed to for like you know because you'll see people who

have a replacement wife is like oh she looks kind of good you know how they had to do that you'll have people who like commit like basically life insurance fraud by by misrepresenting their wife's weight on the yeah there'll be some you'll you tend to have someone on the inside like help you out for bribe. Yeah. Well, they'll just kind of, like, you can modify the profile. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And then, yeah, and it's actually very, very nasty. Nasty business. What do you do is for kids? What if you were a dead kid? Oh, man. Now that now we're getting crazy. I mean, kids?

I mean, it was that movie AI, but they couldn't have, that was the thing, they couldn't have a kid, and they eventually she did. They jumped a gun. It was like some pet cemetery. Do you have, you see AI? Um, yeah. I forget that was Haley Joe Osmond. That's right.

They should remake AI with current Haley Joe Husband. He looks so fucking crazy, though. Oh, man. You get a replacement child who is the age that your child was when they died. Right. But they don't get older. Maybe they swap them out. You get three swaps.

You get, you get, so they'll be like a scale, like an actuarial scale. So let's just say die at eight. We'll get a swap at 12 and you'll get a swap at, uh, 40. I'm not going to say 20, like 18. You get a swap at 18. You don't, you have to pay up for the 40-year-old. If you want to, they'll change. I mean, yeah, that's thing.

You get a swap at 12, so you can have a slight teenager, right? Maybe 25. Right, yeah. Like, who cares if they never become like a, a old? Yeah. Who cares to get a old? I think it's a little bench press you. Right.

A robot's going to be actually strong. I feel like it's just accepted, but like, why? Like, wouldn't they have to have, like, pneumatic gears and shit inside that would make it very heavy? Hmm. Like, are things that are small now? Like, are these things, like, I guess, I guess, I guess they could build them.

But, I mean, wouldn't the things that make you strong ultimately, wouldn't it make more sense that a robot would actually be kind of weak? Or, like, as strong as a human? I'm not sure. Like, typically, the things you would think are associated with being, very strong, like, hydrolyx, I think, and, like, gear... I don't know. Neither one of us are robotic people.

Not really. I mean... I've watched some of those Boston Dynamics videos. Yeah, those things are... But a lot of the time, that seems more like they're training the dexterity of the thing. But those are probably heavy as shit. Yeah. So, like, if you...

You probably, they might crush an elevator. Mm. I don't know. Maybe probably not that heavy. You probably learn about this. I'm just rabbling about it. I think that's about it, right? Yeah.

Unless we've gotten that we've squeezed the juice on that. You know what I'll do if you die? What? Self delete. A fucking self-tolead. And then what our robots live together. I don't replace both of us. Yeah.

So, you know, the world. That'd be an interesting thing. We could be together and help. That would be an interesting thing. Can a couple who self-deletes each other, murder, suicide, can they, can they, uh, can they, uh, get replacement robots? what situation would that be it's just like they both decide like

we're shitty parents it's some kind of will thing and the parents the parents fight for like Terry Shivo the parents fight for them to be brought back to life it's like it's like the time to kill but just pointless and robotic thanks so much for tuning in the comp

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