Kump - Ep. 241 GRAVEYARD OF A.I. DREAMS

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

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I was back in prison for a bit, but now I'm out, so glad to be back. We're back with the program. I don't get right, too. I read something very troubling about this guy on X.com, whose friend, it works in the Fed, apparently, and they're saying that we're going to have an AI bubble burst in a matter of weeks. Really? A matter of weeks. All those giant companies, Navidia.

Navidia. Who else makes AI? Microsoft. Siri PlayStation I don't know Whatever the AI It doesn't matter

The point it's all going down Everyone there's the same 20 trillion dollars Is floating around his economy back and forward Like ping pong with the AI The data servers Right It's all and then

It just looks just true I don't know I don't work in the Fed I don't know if the Fed has a finger on the pulse but it's got me it's giving me pause because here's the thing we could

there's a number it doesn't mean it has been an AI bubble burst it could be any kind of situation where we have an economic collapse and that calls and that brings AI down with it and it makes what are we going to do

or what's it going to look like if we just short of getting to what's this thing they have, the AGI, the, what's that stand for again? Do you remember? The singularity. The thing that makes it

makes it all pop off. Right. It makes us totally replaceable. The sperm and the egg moment. We're basically waiting in AI for a sperm to hit the egg. You know, sperm with sex, you know, sex.

When sperm comes into the woman, it just goes all over the place and most of them never hit the egg right but then one does and it's magic one little soldier changes everything one little soldier changes everything

it just it's like that movie Look Who's Talking It's just you know The baby starts talking to itself Bruce Willis is involved It's magical It's magical And now what now

But now we're living in a time Much like look who's talking Bruce Willis as dementia and doesn't even know it. I was reading the side note, I was reading it today in the variety, which I don't think variety needs to be talking about this, right? Is there bigger things on a variety, the Hollywood

news media's plate and Bruce Willis's awareness of his own dementia? I think so. I think the industry is collapsing. And I think the biggest studio in the world just went bankrupt, like last week. But they're worried about Bruce Willis, no, he's got dementia, it seems weird to put your energy in that basket.

But in the same way, it's kind of the same, but as a metaphor works for this. What happens if that process of singularity is interrupted by the financial collapse of these things?

What are not going to happen by? Hey, you chuds who trade ram chips to each other, SIM cards, and Dins. Here's my. He's eight games of DDR4 RAM. Can he get on my baby? I'm feeding some my baby.

That's for you to worry. I'm not getting richer off this, so I'm not worried about whether I'm talking on my head. I'm not even talking about it. Someone, it gives me the opportunity to speculate, though, because if it does happen, the technology we have isn't going on. We're going to still replace everyone and everything with AI.

They put too much into this to not do it. Right. And what are they going to do? They're going to, they're going to, with no, money just like rebrand completely no we're just gonna live in like a new reality of like for lack of a better term soviet a i you know we're just gonna have like the dumb a dumb down like idiot like ai's kind of like like everyone's like because you're the thing i'm all every time i try use ai for anything it's always like it just comes out terrible uh it seems like it's going really

great, it's asking me, I can make you a, I can make you a project file in Adobe Premiere to do this animation. Really? Like, yeah, okay. And then like, and then two hours later, I'm ready to break my computer and it's like, I just finally get into admit, oh, I can't do that. It almost makes it worse because it has such a can-do attitude. Yeah. No, it tricks you into putting eggs in its basket. Yeah. I just asked you how to, I just asked you how to make it dissolve. But you trick me into like learning learning fucking Pearl script.

But whatever. The point is people, and then you bring it up and then people love to go like, well, it's still new. Just give it time. It's going to be big. All right, fine.

It's going to be big. I'm not saying it's not. Well, if it doesn't get big. But a financial collapse means we're stuck with this handicapped AI, this uncle Fester AI for the rest of our lives.

And like, it's still ruining everything. and still taking all the job. Yeah, like they're going to fire everyone because all the more reason to fire everyone because there's no money left. Right? So you're going to show up to a hotel to check in. So I'm like, like a bad hotel when you're back on the road selling coffee pots or whatever.

Like you're the guy from Desert of a salesman. What does he sell? Insurance. Yeah, sounds like that kind of, I'm going to be in Detroit trying to sell people, fire insurance. It doesn't work. and then I'm going to check into a holiday end. It's just going to be some like,

it's just going to be an arm and like a knock off iPad tablet with a face. Like that Robocop 2 that shot himself. Remember the head of the tablet LCD screen face? I think that was the one. And it's going to be run by like the dumbest AI you've ever heard. And it's just going to be like, you know, like digital, digitized voice. and like, you know, and just have an arm that, you know, it can use for anything. Anything.

It's going to end up being just good enough to, like, shatter reality. Right. Turn everybody angry against each other. Everything is going to take forever. Yeah. Everything's going to be like, kind of like now where you're like, where it's kind of like, yeah, I want the check-ins. And so, oh, right, right, right. So, yes, you want, you want, you want, like, lunch.

No, no, I'm checking in. Right. Okay. And so it's giving you a menu again. Like, I don't care. I'm trying to. I just got here. I'm not eating at the hotel.

I bought a bag of meat under the highway. And I'm going to cook that on my radiator. And so don't try to sell me your overpriced frigging tuna slop. All right. And it's just going to take, like, it's just going to be a 10-minute process to do anything. You want to order a hamburger or McDonald's. it's going to be like it's going to constantly trying to upsell you but it's all it's like they're going to start and create trying to ingratiate they're going to try to maximize every every interaction

because it won't be any like uh the advertising thing will collapse a bit they'll be in the co-cocoble still advertise but this whole like the targeted ad thing no one the the dollar in this scenario the dollar collapses maybe not completely but like it it it because comes down, there's a dollar crisis, and then we get depegged. And normally getting deep pegged, I know, you know, everyone loves getting pegged, but no one wants to get depegged. But the depegging I'm referring. What are you talking about?

The depegging. Yeah. Well, the pegging, I believe it's the right term. Is it just, it's the, it's when they pull out of pegging you? Well, that, no, I don't even think that's a real term. Oh, okay. I mean, the depegging I'm referring to or decoupling. Because you never heard of an economic term for peg the dollar like currencies are pegged to the dollar

Right? I got it. I got it. What did you? I'm sorry. Sorry. I honestly, I actually very legitimately thought you were talking about some kind of like when it gets stuck in there. The machine gets stuck inside me.

Yeah. Yeah. The device. Okay. So you're deep pegging. It's a financial term. I mean, yeah. the idea that maybe maybe people start using the Chinese yuan or the Russian I mean I don't think

they're going to use a ruble whatever maybe he's the point is that a lot of American power is done through the dollar and in fact we own like the people like the dollars use as a global reserve currency and like and so my point is uh that won't be possibly won't be the case in this scenario I'm describing and so like it's just going to be a real bad time financially and they won't be able to like the spend is not going to be there like it was the the the current the advertising spend advertising is a lot of nonsense and it's all you need it right but a lot of it's just kind of like you have accounts and budgets right and people don't really know when it works or why it works they know it works you have to do it but like you know you got basically you have

this budget and you got to spend it right and like that's going to be gone they're going to like So my point is, like, it's the whole advertising model. So what they're going to instead do is start trying to mind every interaction with, like, they're going to try and, like, ask you at McDonald's about your dead dad. They're going to, you know, like, they're going to use this information that try to convince you. Like, every interaction with AI is going to be, like, to become your daddy dom, your emotional daddy dom. you know, like an S&M situation, but not to be sexual.

I mean, for you, it's kind of sexual. Emotionally. Well, it tap into your sexuality. Right. To get you to buy more hamburgers. Yeah, just emotional manipulation. Yeah, like in this scenario, the McDonald's AI's whole model

is going to be designed to try to, like, gaslight you into eating more cheeseburgers. It's going to try to make you cry. Yeah. Every time you have to do a simple thing with that. Right, but yeah, but it's sort of, but then it's, well, no, look, the crying is a gateway to control.

And then, yeah, so in that, and then it's going to kind of use that as a kind of a like a boot, like a boot, a side boot or side, like a side loader. Like in hacking or whatever, I mean, not real hacking, but the kind of hacking like, you know, a guy like me does where it's like, here's how you hack your Kindle Fire. Like, you have to sideload this thing. Oh, okay. Or if you have an Android phone or whatever, like it's the thing where you basically like, you like install a thing

and then it's it's just a way of like installing something that hacks it for you to jail break something or the home brew something and so in this scenario you're being side loaded by McDonald's you're being hacked to

but just to get more cheeseburgers in you and it's going to use like so it's going to use the information that has to try to emotionally like to kind of get on top right to be the top you know what I'm saying here Yeah, for sure. So it's going to be like, hey, it's going to try to be subtle.

But don't forget, it never quite hit that, like, really good, like, X Machina, you know, like, Blade Runner, AI, like, future. It can't replace your wife. No, no. We're never going to get dead wife replaced. Right. We didn't get there. We didn't get the singularity in this scenario. Like, in real life, if this guy, the Fed is full of shit or it's the guy on X, right?

then like yeah we're gonna we're gonna get there and you get in me go McDonald's it'll jerk you know it'll jerk you and then feed you like a baby like in a crib whatever you want like it'll just be like a land of milk and honey but we don't have that we have soviet AI in a scenario so you it's just going to be trying to like every penny counts every cent you know they retire the penny's coming back they got rid of the penny right they're going to bring that back it's going to be worth because it's going to be worth more than, you know, paper money. That's right. Yeah, all the commodities are hitting now.

I mean, look, the fruits are already rotten. It's going to do with they are. Like, we haven't had affordable orange juice in a decade because of some parasite from China or something, right? Right. I want to slander China, but it's some kind of thing. Like what... All our orange trees got raped.

Yeah, they got, you know, penetrated. But Chinese guys come over and rape our orange trees. They had a spy come over and jerk off on all of them. He's got poison com. This old time he saw, like, it's like a drill, like hand drill. Like, there used to be this guy called the, I think it was called the Yankee Workshop or some, or no, maybe that was it. It was the guy used to watch, or was that Norm was the Yankee Workshop from this old house. It was some guy who I used, like, you only use hand tools.

He had a weird beard, and he had spokesaves. I bought a spoke shave once. I didn't really like to use it for anything. Hand tools. Hand drill. You can say you know what a hand drill looks like? Yeah. Yeah.

The crank. It's going to so. Yeah. So in this scenario, the Chinese guy, Chinese national spy. Or maybe he's an American national who's working for the Chinese hand drills into trees and fucks them. I don't know. That's why I spend so much time on the hand drill.

That's guy. Hey, by the way, I used to watch a guy. Who cares? I watch it. The point is this guy's coming. He's fucking. It can kill anything. Yeah.

For some reason. Why don't we? I mean, honestly, like, why don't we? It's, is that the greatest irony of all that some guys when come kills? Because usually it creates life. But when it takes the, was that the terror of AIDS? Local news is in decline across Canada. And this is bad news for all of us.

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That's very astute, yeah. This is the thing that's supposed to keep us going. Yeah, it's killing us. Yeah. Why did they ever talk about that? and dare. Your greatest pleasure becomes your greatest pain.

Right. It's very, it's just yin yang. It's very, it's very kind of, what's the word? When, when,

like, puritanical. It's very pilgrim. But the point is, yeah, you like almost see, like, you almost see,

it's a horrible idea, but like, you know, how they got to the idea of it being a play, you know, a punishment, a play.

Right. It feels so good. Yeah. But I don't think people probably AIDS patients as they were dying and nursing their legions. They probably weren't like, oh, this is so ironic. No, I don't think so. I think they were like, my blood hurts. You know, why is my blood hurt?

Ah, man. So the point is, RIP, Arthur Ash. RIP are all those folks. Frey Mercury, he died. They said a lot of people to die of AIDS, and I'm not sure if they did. Like, Friday Mercury, did he die of AIDS? I'm not sure I think maybe he did

Yeah good for him I mean like yeah But let him get his do is all I'm saying I feel like I'm slandering him if I don't get this right Yeah yeah he died of AIDS Good good for me for knowing that 9091 that's kind of a late AIDS death isn't it Yeah well yeah

I mean people were dying into the mid mid 90s and But yeah it wasn't it wasn't he wasn't one of the He wasn't an early adopter if that's what you mean. He wasn't, he wasn't as a vanguard of Donner of AIDS. He was a pioneer in a lot of ways, but not in his AIDS death.

Well put, Lucy. Well put that in his tombstone. Kind of a, kind of a Johnny come lately. The dying of AIDS. Heard you die of AIDS, bro. Bye. I was watching,

this is like, to me, this is all the progress of AI, kind of like summarized. I was watching this video of, it was an AI video, a fraud. A deep fake. That was going around social media.

Yeah. That presumed to show like New York City cops arresting ice agents. It was like, check this. And the video was like, oh my God, NYPD arrest sites. But it's like if you looked at it, if you looked at it close it up, it was the jackets that,

like N-C-C-D or something. You can't even do a prop, yeah. But it's like, that's how advanced this thing is now. Now you have to go through the annoyance of like, is this actually happening or does this cop have three arms? Right. And you go, well, you ask, oh, okay, I guess it's fake.

Yeah, like, there's those things with the ice guy, with like, the type, I think the picture might have been real, but in order to enhance the picture that they removed its head. Oh, right. The guy's head, which is just like, that's kind of the whole thing of this AI thing.

It's so great. You told it, you told him to sharpen it and remove the guy's head. I mean, I could do that. Like, I could just go, it's just doing it.

I could do the clone stamp and just go, and then you accidentally, I've done before where you were doing the clone stamp, and you accidentally delete the head. You know, where you would delete, you know, not the whole head usually,

but, you know, you accidentally remove stuff or you go too far and it looks fucking, you know, it looks uncanny valley. Mm-hmm. We used to get in trouble with the more. We used to talk about this,

because, not in trouble, but the doctors would want us clean up the we didn't like ever like take anything and make it not true but like you know for the id pictures we would clean up their face so the family would have to see like the gruesomeness of the face right but then like the you know and and the doctors are we would go I don't the doctors didn't want to deal with like showing someone a picture of their carnage face or you know whatever or I think if they if they couldn't if it was too carnage to show someone you'd have to like you know

go through spinal records it's not just dental records you can go through like if the guy has a chest x-ray you could use that you can cut vertebraes and shit it's a tedious process I guess so they were you they were you know but then so we clean up the face and just just for showing the

family and but then the people the funeral hung up got pissed because people would come in and you go well yeah it's a close casket of course you know we mean and we can't show you can't show us versus his face you know his face is destroyed you know I saw a picture at the morgue.

Right. It was fine. Like what picture? Fuck you talking about. And they found out they blew their lid. They had like a meeting and I wasn't there. I didn't really. The word came down when I don't do that anymore.

Did it ever happen that somebody went through with the open casket when it was rough? That I think there's probably a stage where the guy goes, and I can show you this face. Right. before we have the open casket. I don't think it's the thing we have to decide to have an open casket. I think he goes like, well, do you want to see it first? Right. It's not like you have to say, well, I want an open casket.

All right, well, give me six hours and then voila. Like, you know, like, well, I guess it is. But, you know, like, you, like, you, like, why, if you find out at the fucking funeral, like everyone else. You guys, I mean, but maybe. I don't think I, anyone. Honestly, it would be kind of like a. a morbidly good reality show.

Like, it's like, let's take, like, the worst faces of death and see if we can clean him up real nice for an open cask at funeral. There was a guy. It was so bad. Oh, and the... I think he was jealous because, like, the doctors would be very happy with us. I can't believe we were able to identify it in the family, you know, and then I didn't just show him that half his face was missing or decomposed.

Yeah, so this guy, like, he was like... one of the mortgage assistants guys was like was tried to like he was sometimes they would fix the face up he tried like fixing a face physically it was the worst thing I ever saw in my life it was like it looked like I mean

he meant well yeah but I mean he was just and like the doctor man is take a picture of it just like appease him but then people just don't know no one just see this never shows to anyone oh he wasn't trying to the other person was like some people

I don't know, I forget if it was a person got hit by a train or something. People's faces are broken apart sometimes. Yeah. You don't know. I mean, there's a bad world out there. Yeah. Even the face of somebody who dies of like a relatively normal thing. Yeah.

Doesn't look great. You know. Oh, you look at it at him too closely. Like at a carcasska funeral. Yeah. You know, like it's like. Oh, yeah. Like after an bomb and everything.

Yeah. Yeah. No, sure. That pictures had. And pictures like, like, you know, but that picture they got hit, this guy that guy got hit by a train and some guy who wasn't trained to probably really do this, put him that together. I mean, it's, it's bad. It reminds me, whatever, a point is that. So my, in my example, it looked good.

But yeah, you could delete, I, my point is that you could delete. details if you're not careful. That's what it's just like a guy's head. Right. So whatever. The point is it's just not that good yet. It's okay. What it can do, it does really well.

It's like, wow, that's so cool. It's so cool what you can do. Wait until it happens. Which they keep saying, who knows what that will be. Keeps improving rapidly, but never actually like that usable. You don't what I'm trying to say?

It's always kind of. of slop even though it's way better they use that like that example of like you know will smith with the fucking uh eating spaghetti as some great example and you have talking about no look up the will smith eating spaghetti thing have you ever seen this well it's a famous uh i video from like two years ago or whatever um yeah oh to show like the improvement well they've released if you're brain ready for this whiplash this This is the original one. Was peak AI

Will Smith Yeah So I mean that's what we're dealing with Yeah So it's like you know Imagine now like you know Like you know It's where we

It always makes you wonder what is the point of all this Right I mean the massive computing power to get We don't understand any implications Yeah, we could just use We had things to do this Like it's not gonna be, it's never gonna be cheaper Maybe is it ever gonna be cheaper to make movies of AI

When you kind of factor in the trillions of dollars Did they say like didn't was the guy's name Justin Wang or whatever from NVIDia? Did you just say we need 20 trillion more dollars invested in these data centers? Right Hollywood's never like hey we need 20, million dollars more. Yeah. Well,

what? Like, you make your movies and we'll go home. Like, whatever, dude. I don't know why they're heading the video. It's talking about we need more money. Just,

what? Right. Go sell a bomb to the... I don't know what you're doing. Like, you're the richest guy in the world. Why am I talking... Why are you talking to me?

And that's like one of the more innocuous, like, purposes of doing this. It's like just replacing actors or whatever. Right. Like, it's just like... Killy Norwood. They say every day. I don't think I've ever seen... Yeah.

Like a brag about how much AI has advanced. Right. That didn't just immediately confront me with how evil at all is. Oh, no, yeah. Well, that's the thing. So here's the way you, I, look, people keep saying it's not a financial advice. This is financial advice. Yeah.

You need to start focusing on analog defix of your family. Um, because here's the thing. Gold has hit like 5K. Five grand an ounce. Big money. Silver is also very big. I mean, it was recently, like a couple years ago, it was true. It was half that, which is, yeah, is that indication that the economy is getting overcooked or like inflating?

Sure. But also, that's going to be the only thing that has any value is metal, metal and fluids. Bodily fluids and metal. Yeah, you can sell your blood, you can sell your plasma and you can sell gold. Who's got gold? you boomer parents, right? That's right. Are they going to give it to you?

Well, if you have a deep fake of them, you know, I don't know, like trading, you know, trading rotten fruit with marauders. Oh, my God. Yeah, you have to kind of extrapolate. He's the social wars, is that the right word, are going to be different once these things collapse. Like, it's not going to be like, you're not going to be like, I'll deep fake my parents through a blackface. No one's going to care. in the post-apocalypse of this. I just going to raise their station.

Right. Yeah. Worst case of, yeah. You're going to need to like kind of like a mad, you know, there's going to be winners and losers, just like everything else. It's the people who predict properly in business, right? Who bought people who bought Bitcoin. Hey, I'm going to spend my money.

Like I'm talking about like 2011, 2012, whatever. When people who bought it, it's like, you know, for $200, you could have bought a enough Bitcoin to be a billion. millionaire. Some guy was like, you know, I think it's worth it. Right? It's just foresight. Yeah? Yeah.

The foresight to know what's going to incriminate your parents in the near future after the economic collapse. We're computing power. You have the computing power now to make these deep fakes, right? But, you know, even like the sexual

things you can think of. I mean, what's going to piss people off in and the collapsed economy and they collapsed America you know what what's gonna and look if you think that's the worst thing you do don't do that

I mean it's wrong but also like you'll just go to jail for it you can't defake your parents doing that right you know you don't know yeah yeah right because why were you recording that right why are you creating that

if it could bounce back on you why were you recording it you don't want to go that far I mean that would be crazy if a guy went to jail for tape I mean if it wasn't deep faked like some guy recorded his own molestation by his parents and then he went to jail for making child pornography

I mean that's crazy that's actually that should be a black mirror episode someone could get in hold of the black mirrors and tell me you know I would have thought they wouldn't have done that but that was I don't want to spoil the episodes I won't point out which one but there was an episode that involved like that you know PDFs

pedoph, pedos right? Yeah shut up and dance episode well you said it a little spoiler but yeah I'm sorry right but this was like the first season it's Detroit season 3 it's been a while yeah I just haven't seen it recently the kid turns out I mean he's that kid he's like

where is he I think he's high school we don't see I think that's what was confusing about it didn't me it was like he seemed like a kid to me you can't yeah well yeah it doesn't mean it's so evil to think I'm saying you're doing it but like if he did think, well, like, I can get away. Like, like, sometimes you'll be movies where it's like a kid's like,

is like kind of fucking with an adult. You're going, I won't even go to jail. You know, robbing the bank or whatever. And like, when we go to Juvie, imagine like a pet, like a juvenile pedophile. Be like, what are you going to do? Send me the juvenile. Oh, man. That'd be so fucked up.

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Plus. That is an ingenious use of deep fainting You know, that's use it. Let's get something positive out of this. Let's get the intergenerational wealth flowing. Right. It's the only thing is going to, you know, how do you make your parents give you what's yours? And by what's yours, I mean, what's theirs.

But, you know, I mean, I guess you can take it by force. But, you know, it's just a matter of knowing which buttons are the press. I mean, for instance, like, who, like, like, what's, like, what's, going to be a blackmailable offense in five you know after after the dollar collapses is it being

I mean is it going to be a religious thing or Mormon is going to be targeted cursing the name Christ oh you think we're going to become a yeah we might we might go religious it could be a bad one okay so what I mean maybe

maybe you convince people they're Presbyterian instead of Catholic or Catholic I mean, that's the thing. You show them praying to St. Michael the Archangel. Yeah. Show them in a Pescapalian church. Yeah. Opening a Quran.

Wow. Okay. Or just putting a Quran. Or just putting it or just being delicate, overly delicate. I do think I love it. It's a real, it's a real, uh, not, to be critical of your defect skills but it's kind of

like a slab hand there where it's like you show them in Episcopalian church you know, worshiping Allah just being too, just being a little too decorous. Decarus? About Allah. What's dexterous? The Quran. What's dexterous? But I could see

an Episcopalian like pastor doing something like this. Right. You know, it's like not necessarily preaching the Quran. Yeah. But like maybe they have it there. Right. Like just just is a sign of like respect. What you're talking? Who does this?

No one's ever done this. I've never been to the people, religions do this? I got, yeah. They're showing it to children. You know, it's like a children's mass and they're showing that, like they're educating them about other religions. Yeah. Yeah.

That's interesting. It's a really complicated deep. I mean, yeah, this is the problem. I feel like that's the kind of thing that drives religious people crazy. When you start bringing other people's religion into your shit. Right. This is a kind of level of thinking that I'm talking about. It is kind of hard to understand.

Like, no, I'm not trying to shit on it. I'm saying, like, you know, but like it is going to be complicated. It is a kind of chess game. Right. You think it's just going to be like, oh, like, make it seem like he was jerking off online. That won't matter. Right. Yeah.

It's like, it's like, whether he's showing too much deference to Awa in the Episcopal Church, where they also play poker. Right. Like, that's how, it's going to be like the polymarket of the future is on, is, is, is analog. Here's the thing. You're going to have to print these out. Or get, buy a printer, right? You're going to need actual hard copies.

No one's going to have, the web's going to be gone. Or it's going to be like fragmented into a thousand pieces. It's going to be like there's going to be private web intranets. Right. Like, like, you know, there's going to be like, you know, there's going to be like, you Right now we have an open... Oh, you think there's going to be a collapse? Well, they're going to deep fragment the web.

It's going to become privatized and entrenched, like feudalism. It's the new techno feudalism. You're going to live in like the... We're going to, you know, meta. I mean, it's already starting to happen. X and meta, like Facebook and TikTok. I mean, Larry Ellison, but, you know, the deal finally happened. And apparently, if you say Epstein and the private.

message, but I haven't tried yet. I just try. It just seems weird, like, you know, like, I don't know, I don't know anyone on TikTok. I literally, I literally don't know anyone I could try, I could test chat. You know, if you say the word Epstein, it won't work. No, I'm serious.

Oh, really? People are people on X or not. I don't know if it's true or not. People are saying, yes. Oh, wow. So this is what I'm talking about. Like, you know, it's already starting to happen. But what I'm talking about is like a next level where they actually like bifurcate the internet

it's a private webs no more worldwide web I mean it's already there's already restrictions of certain certain countries you can have to be a hacker to be able to go to to see Swedish fucking

you know anime whatever you know whatever you're into it's going to be a ruckin it's a whole fucking thing gold and silver printed out

maybe we just modify the goals like perhaps like they keep talking about this metaverse shit and that's collapsing maybe we just

go into body into animal bodies like maybe like if I was a company now and I was hearing the rumors that we're going to have

to collapse like and I was like technology I would start trying to put like chips in the rat brains

and and then say you could be, you know, like, sell the idea that you could be a rat. And then, and then you could see the world. Like, you could basically, because rats can go anywhere. Like, I'm not sure. Rats, you don't, you don't need as much to live as a rat. Right. Yeah, you could just fucking, you know, you could be playing in garbage.

You could eat plastic, I think. It's not the best thing to do, but it'll just kind of fuse inside you. And you can just roam around and like the, the, the, the, your rat brain can like, you know, just kind of train. submit data back to you and that's it that's your life now and then and you and you live in like a shitty apartment but your rat goes out into the world yeah you can but you can you can live in the sky you can live underground i mean it should just be a robot rat maybe can we make robot rats yet can we make robot rats i don't know but i i'm sure somebody can i mean i mean no you think i'm

asking if you can make a robot rat no i'm not going to ask you to make a robot rat i'm asking of like, like society can make a robot. Because what the fuck is happening with robots? Why is it take so... I mean, honestly, these robots,

where are the fucking robots? They've been doing this shit for like, I mean, seriously doing it for decades now with this Boston Dynamic shit. With these dogs, these wolves that they make.

That's right, yeah. I mean, when are we going to get a fucking bipedal human that actually... I mean, they have sex robots now, right?

Or cleaning robots? But they're clunky. Yeah, they have the cleaning robot. They're too big. Make some of the size of a rat. And then let me be the rat. That's all I need. I can already see.

I mean, you remember how Apple did that famous, like, 1984 commercial? Yeah. You know, who directed that, right? Who? Ridley Scott. Oh, really? Yeah. Why 1984 won't be like 1984?

Yeah. I could see a commercial like that with, like, the smashing pumpkin song. Which one? Yeah, the butterline. Yeah. Despite all my right. Oh, right. Just because you're a rat.

Yeah. Doesn't mean you have to live in a kid. Right. That's a great. It's a great yes. And then it's called rat com. What's called rat com? The company does this.

Oh, got it. Rat com. But it's like R-A-T, like two words, Rat Com. C-O-M-A. But we get it. You get it. Rat come. like, you know.

Well, come rat. Rat com, I think. yeah, rat come. It makes people I'm telling me of, I'm out of the board meeting like, well, no, we're changing names of rat come, but not CUM not worry, we're not trashy, but people will think of that. Don't get me, don't get it twisted, sir.

But, because what makes you think of what do you think of when you hear come? Yes, it's, you know, I guess sperm and spunk and fluid, but life. right like it's it's where babies come from right so it's nice as long as it doesn't actually kill you

right it's very nice yeah one of the board members will bring up the AIDS crisis I'm like sir the dollars collapsed we're calling the company rat com also that wasn't really the come that was killing people it was the it's the tearing in the blood the tearing in the blood yeah wasn't it actually like blood

transference usually it's good point I caused it I think sometimes... It wasn't really the cum's fall. Well, that's a good point. I know it made it more likely. And maybe you're right. I always kind of assume that the cum could give it to you, though.

But maybe not. Maybe you're right. Maybe it had to be the blood. I know the blood, like, you know, the tearing... The tearing and the bleeding made it much more likely. But yeah. I think the cum is good. No, but here's the thing.

But like, if you were having roughs, the top wouldn't be bleeding. right it would still be his come doing it yeah i think right sure sure that's true i mean i i heard youtube as as as uh eased its restrictions on on i hope it's true um can you look this up yeah i mean i because yeah i don't think you have to be pouring blood into somebody that gives the maids Okay, so it's bodily fluids. Oh, okay, I guess it could be all kinds of things. Blood, come, pre-seminal fluid.

Pre-cum can give you AIDS? Vaginal fluid. Precum can give you AIDS? Breast milk can give you AIDS? Yeah. That's so crazy. Imagine getting eight. I don't mean as a kid.

Like, that's tragic. Yeah. But imagine being like a guy or someone like, no, I was like banging a pregnant chick or something. and like I made her give me some of her not major like Forster but like I asked if I could try some of her breast milk I nagged her in to give me the breast milk because I never I've never tried breast milk but some you know at least on sitcoms or whatever you sometimes see it as a premise right someone trying the breast milk or you see some guy on Reddit or X or whatever we're

talking about it like I've tried it but imagine me the guy like convince some chick like some stripper who like you know just had a baby and she and you're banging her right And then you go, let me try some of that breast milk. And then you find out that you got the AIDS from it. That would be crazy. It's so insane. With insane. Imagine me in a fucking group.

You know, an AIDS group in church. I don't know if those were the number one victims of breast milk ads, but. I didn't say it was. But they were. But I'm sure there were a few in that. I'm not going to use the victim. You can't say that nobody died of AIDS that way. I'm not going to use this my dark comedy premise.

you know it was crazy about AIDS breast milk if the baby got it from his mother from drinking breast milk like yeah that's what happens I'm talking about a crazy scenario that's like you know it has a little bit still dark still very dark and sad

but you still the guy still has AIDS in the scenario it's not like hey fuck him like you know maybe you shouldn't have ask for breast smoke but even that I mean it's just weird I guess but doesn't mean he deserves AIDS. It's funny because he's culpable and he defied nature. That really is kind of part of comedy sometimes, I guess.

I mean, assuming you think it's just funny at all. But if you're just sitting there, why are you talking about this? I don't understand anything. Fair enough. But if you think it's a little funny, it is kind of a certain level of like, it goes back to Greek myths almost. the culpability.

Like a lot of Greek myths, the guy, like, there's a culpability? But if you bring it down, I mean, I can't, I don't have a psychopatic memory of Greek myths. But I feel like I remember a lot of times being like, well, that guy didn't quite to deserve it, whatever we got from the gods. Right. But the gods go, why, that's what you get for trying?

You know, that seems to be a gist. And that's kind of like, you know, in our scenario, I was like, what do we get for trying breast milk? Right. AIDS. There's a moralism to my comedy No I wish the guy was the best

Maybe this never happened I might just come on with a scenario Like people love to pretend like everything You could think of was happened That might never have happened Right Yeah You know, some biker guy

Right Some med dealer I'm just picture you're some bad boy He's also like let's try some that breast milk Sweetie You know He's like he's all cranked out whatever, I'm just saying

Like, yeah, maybe, like, the guy I'm describing Maybe wouldn't, would be too weirdly Like homophobic or, I mean, that's not homophobic. I don't know. I mean, whatever the stigma would be. Right. Like, is that homo-would that be homophobic? A guy, let's just say a biker.

I'm not saying biker's not, not all biker. If he was, like, too macho, for lack of a better word, to, like, try breast milk from a woman. Is that homophobic? Could be. It might be more misogynistic.

Well, because it would be like, well, yeah, I mean, that's, yeah. I don't know if it's either of those things, to be honest. Well, look, I mean, it's almost like that would be sick, right? Well, it's sick about it. Like, a lot of those things are wrapped up, but I'm not gay. Yeah. Even if it doesn't make any sense. Well, maybe he just doesn't want to be in the survival position of a little baby.

Well, that's fair. But then also, you know, I feel like, you know, macho men, outlaw macho men, sometimes wrap those things all up and up more than you think. Sure. Like, you know, I don't want to be the woman or the baby. Yeah. Also, I mean, much like the other thing I just said before, it's also very possible that this guy's just like, no, I just don't want, why would they want to drink breast milk? Yeah. I'm not a baby.

That's for a baby. I'm talking like, he's like, just something wrong with him. you know he happened to be not a biker but he might be right in this case whoa do you have some kind of complex what you're secretly gay anyway um

why are we on this this is weird I'm not sure um did you see that Kanye West apologized for his um naughty deeds

well be really wild if he came back out later I was like I was actually I was actually crazy then when I apologize. Yeah. It just keeps going. I'll never, I mean, when's this album coming out? It's supposed to come out really soon, right?

He says it's a few days or a few weeks. You think the song's like, I mean, imagine this, he gets everyone to, like, forgive him, and then the song's like, I wasn't actually crazy. Wow, wow. Is that what kind of what song sound like? Kind of That actually would be a nice

That would be a funny bait and switch Yeah Do you think Is he trying to get his shoe business back Are you gonna put your article or what? Yeah I'm trying to find it I was trying to find it Just read one Pick one

But yeah like he's He's always he tried to click on one And it's like him paywalled And don't worry about it just stop it's all paywold just don't it's all paywold all right

yeah what does that sound like like what I was talking about with a bifurcated internet that's right you're right it's already happening we don't have the same internet oh you read it and you're ritzie internet I'm on we didn't know about this yet

we could be sitting here thinking that yay is still in a Hitler fan like yeah I'm saying these are the consequences of the by well yeah we don't know the details of it there's we're living in a world like the Middle Ages where you hear about like these you know uh the myths you know I

heard the world might be round really well I think that's bullshit um apparently like they say like no one really thought the world was flat ever like back in like you know Columbus times right they thought it was kind of more just like a little bit more oblong right like they still basically thought it was round well it is it's nobody it's nobody's fewer words it's not actually a sphere. But I thought they thought it was more like pear-shaped. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. I'm referring more to the idea that, like, that, that, it's a myth that they thought it was flat. And it, like, it goes back to the Greeks. But there might have an idiot who didn't know. And, like, we didn't have schools the way we have now. So, like, if you just some guys, some schmuck who farms turnips

all the time, maybe, you know, it's like, oh, you know, everyone knew. Like, oh, you think the turn up guys read New York a media? Right Like monks do that shit Yeah it probably is the most like I mean if you're just looking at it You don't know anything Yeah

If your whole world is turnips Like you know It probably is the most intuitive thing To just look at it and go it's flat Yeah who gives a fuck but yeah What's the world? What? You're it's flat

I don't know I'm making turnips here Right My point is The reason I'm bringing it is that's how we are right now because we're on the broken I mean I actually do have a New York Times account because I got a deal on it like it's not on this computer for some reason I don't feel like it's right in but that's what I'm describing is the fief of internet it's the bifurcated life you know some people I mean we're already deal with that truth is not what you know we pretend that you're like appeal is to say like you'll make your own truth like you're an idiot like it's like you know it's like you know you're not you know this idea that you can like, you know, just because people believe, but no, but we've actually,

like, of course you, like, people can manipulate people, but the degree to which people are just actually willfully, like, choose their own adventure, like, version of reality now. It's, like, it's way faster than I thought it would be. You know? Right. It's way more, uh, uh,

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It's just bad. We're just riding on the vine here. You think I'm full of shit here? You think, do you want to return to the time when, you know, our reality was just, like, created by strong men? Wise. Well, those are cronkite? Wise pedophiles. You know, it's better than the idiot pedophiles we have now.

We just have, like, we just have rash pedophiles now. That's the thing. We, we, like, broke it in half because, like, the pedophiles were running it. And that was, like, we hit him a very rash by the file running it. Right. Oh, he's not a petophile. No, you're right. He's just altruistically not releasing the Epstein docks.

Okay I don't know So you're right He's a he's a pet file of name only Whatever I don't care Like no one's doing anything about it Why do you fucking giving me shit I just release the dog

You sign the thing and you go I can't know no one's gonna make us do it There's no enforcement tied to the law that we signed What Like what is that You don't what about that? Right, yeah.

They fucking said that there's no enforcement action tied to that specified in the law. So fuck you. Right. That's just what we have. That's what we're dealing with. It's legalistic. It's like a fucking like a like an actuarial accountant or something. Pedophile.

You know, and the wide says, oh, he's not. I don't know what he does. like oh like you imagine caring about like the guy what was he actually did he actually get in the bedbub I don't know what he did I'm saying he's not really just really the fucking who cares who's in it who cares if Penn and Teller in it or fucking you know Paul Newman or the guy who made fucking the guy who invented

fucking uh hidden valley ranch is that what's happening was the guy who invented Hidden Valley ranch dressing in the Epstein docks I don't know. Like, oh, it would tear us apart, they say. What could be in? Who, I mean, who, what could tear us apart at this point? And it's also like, if you, if you're like a, a businessman, yeah, who is, uh, not really, who didn't really do anything wrong. Right. But you just happen to be there. Yeah. I feel like you should just take one for the team. Yeah. Like, if you're really,

if you're really not evil, right? You would just take one for the team. We're doing this to like, Stephen Pinker doesn't get in trouble. Right. Like, I mean, where, when did we become so fucking worry about justice? It just seems like a crazy thing. Well, well, yeah, but unfortunately,

if we release these docs, they don't look, it'll look bad for the fucking Steve Wozniak. Which I don't think he was on there. I don't know. I mean, I don't think he was. Right. That would be damning. See, a guy like Steve Wozniak was there.

It's obviously worse. Because, you know, a guy, like, not just Bill Clinton, but who else besides, like, people who were, like, financial, whatever, just party people. Like, sex people in general. It makes, but a guy like Steve Wozniak was just this weird nerd who, like, says he likes to, like, make, if a guy like that or, like, see, like, Stephen Hawking, why was he there? Someone else brought this up. I don't want to, you know, repeat this bit or whatever. but there's a good reason to be at the island for Stephen Hawkins right yeah

I'm just saying look if you if you don't want your kids mistreated then you got a tournament to rats can this be a temporary thing did you think this was wait wait if you want if you don't want your kids to get molested by by by deep state pedophiles

just do the right thing in turn the tournament we're going to use this has all been a sales pitch for rat com here's how you save your kids from being molested you turn them into a rat i mean honestly it's like the witches yeah but right like it's like they turn them into rats but you do that is that what rolled out was was getting that well i think it is a bit of a some kind of metaphor yeah i mean yeah but not not i didn't think about that. Oh, man. So how,

so how, all right, we'll, we'll spend, focus on this for the rest of the episode. What,

how, like, so how does this work? This, this rat thing. I mean, it's, it's permanent,

right? Like, it's not, like, it's temporary. I mean, like, like,

assuming we have, I mean, again, we're dealing with Soviet, you know, quality technology. That's a besmirch the Soviets. They made great fucking,

um, chess um but you know like what what are they like what are you what you envisioning when you say it's gonna help these kids not get molested well you know it's like it's people a guy won't a guy won't fucking rat yeah like it's like it's not the same thing right you guys you can just scuttle into more places you know you can escape this is a good point your children deserve a childhood that's actually a great also if i were a kid i would i would like being a rat i mean honestly see how bad it is. No, I agree with that sentiment, by the way.

But you may be thinking something. You see how bad it is, right? Where we can't, like, stamp this out, this problem. And that's in, like, our current society. What happens in the Mad Max situation or the medieval ages or what? How bad was it? You know? Yeah.

Like, how much is this going on if society collapses? It's just constant? Yeah, probably near constant. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So yeah. It's just what we tell parents. It's not if it's when.

I hate to tell you. I mean, look, the president, we have, we have two presidents now, right? competing presidents because that's on the table, right? It's a bifurcated society. It's a civil war. The only way to keep your kids having a childhood that isn't destroyed is to make, is put their mind into a rat. And then, yeah, like, you know, when it turns out,

18 they can have their body back. I mean, I would never agree to that. You know why? Why? What the fuck you're doing my kid's body in the meantime? Oh, true. No, it's in a lab. Is it a lab? Was it a vault? I see I'm not doing this, but if I was the dad, I'm like, well, I see what you're doing. Right. I'm not an idiot. I was

born yesterday. I mean, that, but that's kind of. And then you know, like, you know, even though they've been in the rat and they've been having fun as the rat. Yeah. Once they're back of that, but they're going to know something's happened. Oh, God. It's like that.

The body keeps the score. Yeah. Like the movie happiness when the kids just starts crying. He doesn't know why. Dark shit. Wow. This is the dark future we're talking about. Yeah.

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