Kump - Ep. 244 THE IRAN WAR PROPAGANDA IS GETTING LAZY

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Ray discusses The Iran War, media manipulation, and much more. patreon.com/raykump⁠ for bonus episodes

The president's feeling based on fact. These are lies. That Iran does pose an imminent and direct threat to the United States of America. The lies will continue. No, I might have forced their hand. Mostly to propagandize to their own people. Ah, where are my gloves? Come on, heat.

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We've got big announcements coming up later in the show. But first, let's get into it with the ongoing situation in Iran. And we're getting to the bottom of why we're even there in the first place. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties. Did Israel force your hand to launch distress against Iran?

No. No. I might have forced their hand. These decisions are not made in a vacuum. They are made by the president's feeling that Iran was going to strike the United States and our assets in the region. Iran tried to kill President Trump, and President Trump got the last. laugh. If we didn't hit within two weeks, they would have had a nuclear weapon.

Well, that's, uh, they tried to kill my daddy. Remember Bush, uh, when we went to Iraq? They tried to kill my daddy. The famous, uh, you know, it's, look, there's nothing more, um, primal than, then striking back at those who tried to strike you down. It's not really usually the basis of modern geopolitical conflict, but, you know, we were kind of devolving as a civilization to the, in rhetorical, you know, the great, you know, the Senate used to be known as this great, the greatest debating body in the history of civil, which I, was I ever really the case? Was the U.S. Senate really the greatest deliberative body? it doesn't seem that

would that be true but perhaps there's a high water mark but they tried to kill no I might have forced their hand these decisions are not made in a vacuum they are made by the president's feeling that Iran was going to strike the United States and our assets in the region Iran tried to kill President Trump

and President Trump got the last laugh I mean, the last laugh. Pete Hegsett is a bona fide thug. He's just like, we haven't had a guy like him in a long time in America. I don't know. He's like a Tammany Hall figure. He's like a guy straight out of the streets who are like, you know, a real headcrusher, a real, you know, a real enforcer.

I don't know if he knows anything about war. I'm sure there's generals around. him. So maybe it's good that we have just a half-cocked kind of maniac just scaring the world into finding new allies. It seems like what you'd want. It seems like what you'd want as like resources dwindle and our projected power starts to wane in the twilight of empire. To just start, just start kicking dirt in the face

of all, you know, just every everyone who might help us, who might have, who we might need later on. Just like, just don't put any, look, there's nothing better when you have less, you know, relatively small leverage than to act as if you're just, you know, like to just grab people by the scrub of the neck and shove their face in the piss. That's the kind of guy, headset. I mean, it's a very bold, he's a bold man. was no one's putting us in danger

we're putting the other guys in danger that's our job so we're not concerned about that we mitigate it as we need to our commanders factor all of this but the only ones that need to be worried right now are our Iranians that think they're going to live like I look I get it I get the posture I mean this is just from 16 minutes

I guess it's coming out today the full interview I get the bluster hey hey like you know even maybe wasn't his idea to go to the but he's the kind of guy when you put him you know he's not going to do he's going to do everything or nothing i get if you put me in charge of a war you give me the job of of sec death or i guess the sex sec war now is secretary of war uh and you say hey like you know you have

these principles you don't think we should be bombing iran but we'll give you the job how much is it pay and i imagine it's like i mean now i think if it's only if it's less than 100 k i'd probably won't do it. But for a couple hundred K, I might, I'd like to get a house one day. So I'll, I'll put my qualms aside. And I would say, look, you don't, I'm all for the idea

that, um, the best, uh, defense is a good offense. I'm all for the idea that, you know, look, yeah, you got a lot, you did a lot to be said for the, the, the ambiguity of, of weakness or, or, not being, you know, projecting strength, right?

It invites problems. You could argue that for, you know. Somebody say that, you know, we gave Saddam Hussein mixed messages before he invaded Kuwait. We could call it that. You could also call it, we were, you know, we hung up to dry that we engineered that shit. It's all by perspective, right?

It's all about, it's all about how you choose to view the world because nothing's real anymore. But regardless, I get where this guy, What I don't quite understand is what the fuck he's talking about. No one's putting us in danger. Fair. Okay, no one's going to put us in danger. That's fair.

I'm your daddy. I don't mind him. I don't need a daddy. But I don't mind him saying, hey, if I'm a secretary of war, I'll be your daddy. Because a lot of people need a blanket. A lot of people need to know. It's not enough for most people to just be able to live in a chaotic world. They need to know, or at least believe.

like Santa or Easter Bunny that nothing will ever happen to Americans, right? But like the American, you know, you can walk unbusted across the face of the earth because you're an American citizen. And we will protect you and no one will hurt you and daddy will kiss the boo-boo.

People, like, look, they have enough going on. They work shit jobs for no money. I'm not judging anyone. I'm just, the fact that I'm jaded to the point of not needing, the you know Pete Hacks to be my daddy hasn't made my life that fruitful I'm not running a fucking mini marathon every day all right I'm not judging anyone if you need if you want a daddy it's fine that's that's that part of it's fine I don't that's our job so we're not concerned about that

you you know you as we need to yeah our commanders factor all of this sure the only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're going to live. I don't know. I don't know what he's saying. I don't know what that mean. Is he saying like the only who think they're going to live? I mean, this is a problem. I can get on board.

But one more time. Factor all of this, but the only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're going to live. The only thing, so it almost sounds like you're going to nuke him. Now, I don't think he's planning on doing that. I think if anything he'd allow you know be yeah it would probably be an Israeli nuke if anything

it'd probably be maybe a black market nuke maybe they try to blame it on Palestine or something on Gaza on the Gazans they were you trust me if a nuke goes off they'll blame it on Gaza there'll be a guy dropping a nuke from a hang glider you'll see you'll be

there'll be cell phone footage if a nuke goes I hope I pray to God that a nuclear bomb doesn't go off. In Iran, this is not a threat to Iran. I mean, I'm not affiliated with the government to the Iranian people. And I'm not saying it's going to want to get sued. I just don't want some Iranian kid. I understand.

It's a little arrogant of me to assume that in Iran, they're translating means of Farsi to watch in Iran. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. That being said, if it does happen, you're going to see a guy to hang glider flying away. Is that possible? I don't know. It'll be Photoshopped or whatever. They'll be AIed.

I'm not saying, I don't know if you could fly a hang glider in the approximate blast of a nuclear mushroom cloud. Factor all of this, but the only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're going to live. Iranians who think they're going to live.

It's just such a an ominous but also clumsy line. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like Nicholson who departed, like fumbling with the gun. But that was like menacing because like this is more like if he shot himself

or like maybe or you know, or the bullets fell out into his mouth and he started chewing bullets by mistake. All the people of the warrior Iranians who think they're going to live. I mean again, I'm not, I don't, I'm trying to wrap my head around it.

uh civilians or like the i mean there's a lot of music revolutionary guard i don't know i really i'm not even judging him or you for a lot of you know want to dad whatever this is uh this is the newest uh attack well i knew this is like yesterday they're doing a lot of damage i mean it doesn't seem like he's not trying to kill everybody or time this is bad this is the skies are on fire another one this is like Terminator shit I guess there's oil running into the into the into the streets and then cause it this is like a Hollywood movie in this in a way that like you know everything's on fire I mean it's

Hollywood movie because people are literally dying but you know it's like it's literally like the end of the world over there it's God the regime's middle the night skies over Tehran turning orange as Iranians experienced some of the heaviest bombardment of this war state media saying that the strikes hit a gas depot and an oil refinery this after a warning by President Trump that Iran today would be hit hard earlier it was Iran's busiest airport I mean I just want to say something we're going to say but like this idea that like some people are acting as if like we're losing the war I don't think we're

I don't think it's maybe probably going as well as it was planned I think they wanted to get palavi in there is Raza Pahlavi's son's his name also Raza right it goes back to uh there was a guy before the Shah that we know his dad and then he's the Shah you know basically he the shot there was like Raza Khan or something, I think his name was back in the day. And then there was, you know, and then his son took over, I guess, for a minute, a little bit. And he abdicated, I should have prepared this, no, but I read a book years ago. The point is, they had elections and then Mosadegh, and then we overthrew it. And we shoved the Shah back in when we overthrew Mosadeg because he, you know, nationalized the oil fields.

I've discussed this a lot lately, probably. And so the Shah famously left Iran after the revolution. They got very mad at us because we let them in to America to get lung cancer treatment or something. I mean, they're probably also mad that we overthrew their government and propped him up. That's the thing about this Iran thing. I don't think they're saints. I don't think they're great guys. I don't know, you know, this idea they do proxy warfare.

It seems like a very damning accusation, except that all we do is goddamn proxy war. I mean, I'm not trying to be a one about it. It's like, yes, they do proxy war. If you were invading Mexico, like, you get very mad of the Iraq stuff. Yeah, I don't know. If you invaded Mexico, I feel like we would get involved, even if behind the scenes a little bit.

Now, again, this is not to say. we shouldn't fight them in that case. We should have on that back then about that. Did they do some terrorism, quote, unquote. And I say quote unquote, because all these terrorists that we keep talking about, we keep creating, literally. All right, you know, Al-Qaeda was famously, you can talk all the complicated with Al-Qaeda at the time of the Mujah

dean, who we were completely funding and training, were actually were more facilitators back then Bin Laden wasn't one of our guys All right You really want to get into that Well I mean we we this That's the level of like you know

dystopian bureaucracy Debate we can have The reality is we create a lot of terrorists It doesn't mean that you know I never said like for instance on October 7th That Israel shouldn't respond You know like is there a dialectic?

Is that the right word going on throughout history with these two nations or whatever? Of course. Do I have a complicated view? I never said, I never occurred to me that, you know, they should not respond, right? That being said, you know, but it's about proportionality and, like, scale and also just not being lunatics about it.

And also, yeah, hypocrisy, you can be a hypocrite to a point. to a point so my point is like it's not like you know oh nothing should have oh iran if they do something you hit him back but stop and stop trying to friggin you're not my daddy

stop trying to tell him that that Iran is going to kidnap me and molest me all right I'm I am not afraid of Iran in a way in this way of like you know look they're going to

there's always a boogeyman doesn't mean they haven't kill Americans don't be we kill a lot of people but if you allow a boogeyman into your life and in this case like a nation a national boogeyman what do you think they need that for what do you think you know you know right no one everyone was talking about 1984 what do you think the point of Emmanuel Goldstein was he was a boogeyman he was a guy we hate this got get him get him and then you know you know manual gold scene is like is the terrorist. He's a bin Laden of 1984.

I don't think even existed. I haven't read in years, but I don't think he existed at all. There's a figment. But you get people frothed up and they'll let you do anything. Now in this case, yes, like the proximate thing is we're blowing up Iran. We're all, we're not talking

about Epstein. That's nice for certain people. I don't like it. Oh, you guys want to talk about? We still talk about Epstein? Yeah, I don't know. Nothing's actually been, no one's ever in even if no one's the board the justice but also like no nothing's really even been investigated files have been deleted you're bringing in you know the clinton i mean look

the clinton's we'll get to that probably in a page patreon this week coming up i'll talk i'll talk about i'll go through we're too much to talk about but the point is there's a lot going on i ran let's guess uh one second this is where's the one i'm looking the wrong button the regime's military fighting back hard, firing missiles and launching drones at least 11 countries. Just to finish the point,

the reason you have a boogeyman, the reason you have one, is so they can put, it's, you know, when they pick your pocket, a pick pocket in the streets, they do a bump. They bump into you and they take your wallet out, right?

That's how it works. Iran right now is the bump All right You know You have AI not you know Is it's gonna be used to justify It's taking away your job

Whether it actually does or not The economy's tanking For a number of reasons I don't want to make it seem like I'm ignoring the idea That a lot of people in our government Seems to be very heavily influenced By another government And we're just

doing it on the behest of, I mean, let's just go back, because I really dwell on this. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties. She's also to be clear. What he's saying is Israel was going to attack and drag us into a war and not like, well, they were going to do what they were going to do.

They know what they're doing. and we allowed it to happen even though we could totally check Israel if we wanted to it's kind of hard when the president seems to be compromised by something maybe just a love of a love of Israel I guess

maybe he just really really wants maybe he just really likes the Torah I mean someone should get him a nice like a nice Torah and maybe he goes you know like let him read the

Has he read the Bible? Is he that into it? I know it's not only, whatever. I'm just saying, it's like, that's probably, what else could it be besides a fascination with the Torah that has him so, you know, I wonder. I wonder. I'm like, I don't think I know. So let's get back to the other clip.

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Business. The regime's military fighting back hard, firing missiles and launching drones at least 11 countries. So Iran is going through. and uh look we have we have a lot of bases like we're in the Middle East I don't think that everything they did was attacking our but we attacked some of our bases and look I don't want our troops to get hurt that's the half the thing why are we letting our troops die for nothing

oh they were two weeks away from when you go I don't believe that just flat out and it's kind of laughable to believe that they just did look they did nothing to justify this war they really it's like it's insane I don't if you're old enough to remember Iraq they spent a year like pivoting and it was still crazy as hell no one bought it

except for like you know I don't know like whatever the boomers were back then I guess there was like you know the greatest generation types were they still around the in between the lost generation

whatever some people were like you know got got got but I don't think most people a lot of people the cynical like Republicans or

neo-conservatives barely seemed to even think the weapons were there it was really about you know force projection bases people would make these arguments it's something we can attack you know Afghanistan doesn't really have much

to destroy like people like to pretend they're being clever for a while sometimes we don't have a war for a while they like to get clever with their rhetoric well you know like oh They like the bluster and posture Until the videos of the kids dead start coming back Which I guess is you know

They didn't have cell phones for the Iraq war as much It's some but it wasn't the iPhone error yet But you know but there was a lot of smaller cameras The many DV cameras are around There was a you know there was probably more of that coming through than used to be You know Vietnam was kind of like that's the first one of those and so it's these we're easy to act like an egghead and talk about you know projected force and all this shit and at the end of the day those guys are just lackeys anyway because

the real thing is money you know people go all we like we two trillion was lost the day before 9-11 and it's like hey you're like two trillion dollars missing we can't account for it's kind of weird uh and people i love people know about that right they talk about that and apparently like the investigation that would have took place about that was uh hurt by the idea that like all those documents i guess were in the pentagon in the area where that got hit i believe it's the idea which oh you know fair like because why would rumswell come out oh okay i guess a little little loop-de-loop that was that right way rope but dope you know and then he's on the he's on the dependent the pentagon lawn you know yeah it's trying to help

people, which, look, if I'm, either way, it's good. Even if he, even if he was in on it, it's still nice. I mean, it's better than not helping. I feel like this, I feel like the people we have now, if they did 9-11, like, if the Trump administration did 9-11, I don't think I, look, I'm not saying, heck, I've never done a nice thing. I don't think he'd be on the White House law or the Pentagon lawn helping people, uh, from the cruise missile attack.

They just attack the Pentagon. plane. I feel like he would go straight to the Piac and go, I'm needed elsewhere, which is strategically true, probably. But Donald Rumsfeld, for all his faults, had a little bit of a heart. Among them, Israel and Kuwait, where an Iranian weapon tore through a U.S. Operation Center, killing six American troops. That's rough. And, look, Iran's going to retaliate. A lot corner, you know, people get mad at them and, you know, whatever. I mean, like, once war start, you can't just, yeah, I don't expect everyone to just go, well, you start a certain point of the problem of war is that people forget how they get started.

No one even remembers that. I mean, we famously do remember World War I. But I mean, at the time, how many guys in a trench were thinking of, you know, Archduke Ferdinand? World War I sucked. This is interesting, though. The regime's military fighting back hard, firing missiles and launching drones at least 11 countries, among them Israel and Kuwait, where an Iranian weapon tore through a U.S. Operation Center, killing six American troops.

Wait, I got the wrong one there. Hold on. Give me one second there, because this is actually a, this matters. Videos. The best laid plans of rays gets stuck in the... Here we go. But over 500 people have been killed, according to the Red Crescent, including at a girls elementary school,

where Iranian state media claimed more than 100 children were killed. Iran lashing out across the Middle East, several U.S. military facilities in the region have already been hit, including in Kuwait, where six U.S. service members were killed over the weekend. Today, President Trump honored them. In their memory, we continue this mission with ferocious, unyielding resolve to crush the threat. This terrorist regime poses to the American people. Anyway, both, rest and peace to the soldiers.

There's nothing, you know, sad. Sorry for their families, you know. People. Iran also indiscriminately targeting civilian sites. Oh, my God. A hotel in Dubai. Well, that's interesting. This apartment building in Bahrain.

And in Israel, direct hit near Jerusalem this neighborhood leveled okay I look and I am not you know look that's that's also said is very sad it pulverized the concrete into something like this but among the effects you can see combs Pokemon cards and you can see pokey right Pokemon cards and it's a little baby picture of baby that's sad I get don't don't don't think I'm going somewhere where I say it's good to the baby that's not what it is but you know but dozens were wounded and nine or killed in the attack, including the mother and her son, buried together today.

I see the mother and the baby on the floor. She's doing like this, and they're a little boy. A lot of blood in his face is far as old. It's horrible. This is a horrible side of war. You should show this, right? You should show that. You should show the human effect of war.

It's just, I mean, the reason that clip. that's a single clip that wasn't cut by me it goes to there it starts out let's just go to the beginning of it but over 500 people have been killed according to the Red Crescent including at a girls elementary school

where Iranian state media claimed more than 100 children were killed now is it that clear that like the best sources seem to say we did this so people say Israel did it I think they were trying to say well Iran did no I think that was coming at the we bombed the school right

We bombed the schools for us right now? I mean, like, we can put a pen in, no, I'm not put up, I mean, whatever. No, I think that's the, I saw a lot of sources saying we bomb the school coming out. And this is not like a six-day-old clip, right? Iran lashing out across the Middle East. Several U.S. military facilities in the region have already been hit. Including in Kuwait, where six U.S. service members were killed over the U.S. service members were killed over the U. the weekend. Today, President Trump

honored them. In their threat, the terrorist regime poses to the American people. Iran also indiscriminately targeting civilian sites. I mean, look, so when they do, that's what I'm getting at. Now, like, Noam Chomsky has been tainted by his connection to Jeffrey

Epstein. And by connection, I mean, he seemed to try to help him get away with being a pedophile. Let's not down, let's not soft sell it. You know, I went before, I mentioned you know, a couple weeks ago, when I first heard about the Epstein situation with Chomsky, I'm like,

well, he probably just was like flattering the guy and, you know, flattering and, you know, I really love your linguistics. And, you know, what do you think about, you know, the, what's the, what's the big thing in manufacturing consent? East Timor. I want to talk about the East Timor

Massacre. Oh, that's very interesting. Well, again, I'm never, I mean, Chomsky, but I, one thing he was very good at was pointing out in the media stuff it's not you know a lot of propaganda seems to be about like just a difference in proportion of coverage right like yeah you're showing the school attack right no one's saying it didn't now they're not but are they are they down playing it um it's arguable you know like let's let's go back to the school thing

real quick. To the Red Crescent, including at a girls elementary school, where Iranian state media claimed more than 100 children were killed. Yeah, Iranian state media claim. Now, is that fair?

Look, is it not lost? I mean, this is CBS, by the way. And I would never question Barry Weiss's journalistic, you know, skill, integrity, where that, all of it is best. CBS only hires the best. That's my understanding.

That being said, it does, you know, So maybe you're supposed to just, you know, not, you know, look, they are a terrorist state. They're a rogue state. Those are technical terms, right? We just bandy these things about is by, I'm being a little coy here and I'm not, like, I should get, just not being around the bush. There's a lot of, we, look, why are they a terrorist state because they promote terror? Well, we promote terrorism.

Why are they a broke state? because they go against the way you know they don't wait for the UN we don't do anything we do what we want this this is what's more rogue than this what because Israel's also doing it where we're not rogue anymore the whole world is condemning this but we're not rogue like what I mean when when when Bush came out what was that speech it was the state of the Union after 9-11 or was it I feel like it was October but you know um either the way the speech you gave a couple months of nine eleven the acts of evil speech i think it was the state of the union the first one after nine eleven tell me in the comments if i'm wrong tell me in

the comments if i'm an idiot whatever tell me what you want the point is he you know you got afghan that's where bin laden was right that's the bin laden guy we're going after then he starts bringing up iraq well we did fight iraq all right this is weird why are you bringing up i mean At that point, it wasn't totally clear how there was just no connection, right? At all. Like, you wouldn't think there'd be a connect. Like, I mean, that's the thing. I'm not like an expert in the Middle East.

I feel like I was a little, I mean, I was even more savvy. But I feel like there's a large round people who just like don't have any idea. Like, I mean, I knew enough when I was, you know, when you got a college age. I knew enough at that point to know, well, I'm not sure about the culture of Afghanistan but I know it ain't Iraq I know these people also hate each other right so I don't know what people think did people go like oh like yeah in reality yes there was like you know of course we all know that I'm not going to get into the Sunni and the street after this also like the geopolitics of like how bin Laden was actually very pissed that you know that Saudi

Arabia didn't allow him to have me to raise a Muslim army against Saddam he he he he know supposedly it's hard to get there's all these details. And then there's all those evidence that like he's probably just our guy. And like, I'm humble that like some people just ignore the kind of, you know, the hearing contradiction of conspiracy shit. It's murky. When you're dealing with parcels of information, like, you know, maybe he was half real. You know, the Shah, like, talk shit about us. And, and, and, uh, he was mad about Bretton Woods. I remember the Britain Wood system, the financial system. I'm getting mired in the weeds here a little bit, but I've been reading

some op-ed I randomly found where he's like, yeah, you talk about you, all the money going to OPEC, but we give it all back to you in petrochemicals. We have to buy petrochemicals from you. So you get all the money back. That's the thing. Oh, the money. They used to talk about it in the 70s, that was money going to OPEC and

oh, we're losing all the money. And they're like, why? All that money was, I don't know if it's all the money. Again, this is the nature of debate. People are always, you know, people are arguing in their own interest. So I don't know for sure. but our guy in the shop was in the New York Times

out bed going you fucking scumbags we were buying petrochemicals and down chemical I mean is you talking about plastics or just weird I don't know what you used to talk me was it like house cleaner I don't know what he's talking about

stuff to make rubber he seemed to be really hung up on petrochemicals I wonder if his son who wants to take over Iran now is also that interesting petrochemicals Iran lashing out across the Middle East

the point is There seems to be a large, you know, so we have this. The 100 children were killed. Very quick, matter of fact, a thing with the, with the school. It's not, you know, this is the way propaganda is. It's not saying, you know, they're not going, and we're glad. You know, oh, the school didn't exist. They spend like five seconds or four seconds.

They say claimed, right? And in Israel, a direct apartment building. Oh, my God. A civilian sites can people. Iran also indiscriminately targeting civilians. Indiscriminately. Indiscriminately. I mean, like, do we know?

Are we talking to the targeting guys? I mean, we're just taking their word for it. They're just not like, I just don't know. I mean, indiscriminately attacking civilian sites. As opposed to the school, which we did on purpose? Is that what you're implying? Like, a hotel in Dubai. This apartment building in Bahrain.

I mean, Israelis are always talking about how they have to bomb things because there's things under it. You know, what's under the hospital? Hey, hey, what's under the school? You don't know. I'm telling you, there's a lot of bad stuff under this school. They had to blow it up. But, but, but in the Iran needs to be an indiscriminate.

See, a subtle, a subtle, not so subtle, distortion. Again, I'm not on tea by ran. It does seem, yeah, it's more about team don't just indiscriminately kill people. in the name of my country I guess I mean I doesn't matter anymore like this idea that were democracy it's very funny or no we're constituted or a little bit of Republic yeah I get I get Israel a direct hit near Jerusalem this neighborhood leveled it pulverized the concrete into something like this but I mean the human they have a correspondent there is it more dangerous to be in the right sure

because they wouldn't I don't know the logistics of that per se Among the effects he... I know, like, I know supposedly Israel hasn't wanted people showing attacks in Tel Aviv. Right? They haven't wanted that. They've actually been like, you know, very much as like they've been restrictions and supposedly, like, you know, there's fines and jail time if you show for strategic reasons or whatever. But yeah, we'll show it. Yeah, we're showing it.

Okay. You can see Combs, Pokemon. Again, not downplaying the victims here. or this is good or anything that that's not at all what this is is the idea is that like you know but it's just where you it's the selective humanization it's the point the cards and family pictures yeah there was no there was no pictures in the school of 100 dead girls all right teachers and I imagine

there's no pictures there okay there's no pictures there you looked I mean, just the amount of time they're spending, including the mother and her son buried together today. No, it's very sad. It's very sad. I mean, and it's just, it's not about what aboutism. One, you know, it's about what, why, but it is kind of that in the sense of like, hey, news, what about that? This is bad, also, what about that?

Like, is that also bad? Like, you say they claimed. You see the mother and the baby. on the floor she's doing like this and there were little boy a lot of blood in space just to be clear this is what happens when you buy the media it's not so much that you like you know you know it's not it's not it's just selective it's strategic doesn't mean you that you know it doesn't mean that you just you know well today you know I ran Duke

this and so we had a, you know, like, I guess there's a point where we used to do more. I mean, look, honestly, if you, if you go through like the newspapers of like the, the 50s or whatever, we know, these coups and stuff we did and, you know, it was, it's, it's, you know, we used to get away of a lot more. People, people in this position used to get away of a lot more. It used to be an easier job to propaganda as a culture. Now it's more about, you know, it's, it's about trying to move the goalposts of, of, you humanized, you know, are these people, you know, because I thought it was all about them having

nukes. What, what did we do? What did we do last year with this bunker buster? I mean, you guys claimed it was a great hit. You didn't make the case, I mean, you kind of didn't really make the case of why it didn't work. They don't really, like, they're not selling war anymore. They, they don't want that.

They, they're kind of easing away from, like, we're going to show you every detail. We're going to show you, you know, there was no, there was no Colin Powell this time going to the UN. You know, we're talking about the mobile labs and the sarin gas or,

what was it, the yellow cake uranium and all that. Colin Powell putting his honor on the line. I mean, I'd like to know. I mean, there's a lot of talk back then about how we're, did to him was terrible. I mean, I bet he knew a little bit.

Let's see if I can find that real quick. I mean, Colin, you know, Colin Powell, UN, WMD, let's see if it comes down. I cannot tell you everything that we know, but what I can share with you when combined with what all of us have learned over the years is deeply troubling. What you will see is,

is an accumulation of facts and disturbing patterns of behavior. The facts in Iraqis behavior, Iraq's behavior, demonstrate that Saddam Hussein and his regime have made no effort, no effort, to disarm as required by the international community. Indeed, the facts and Iraq's behavior show that Saddam Hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass.

I just went on for a while. I remember listening on the radio. I was going to Queens, because my mechanic was Queens back then. It doesn't matter. And they don't do, there was none of this. There's one forever. I mean, this is a Russian Federation.

I mean, this is going on. Let's... None of this should come as a surprise to any of us. Terrorism has been a tool used by Saddam for decades. Saddam was... I mean, he was a terrible guy. I mean, he was a brutal guy. I mean, he was like his... I think... I know his sons would go do, like,

remember Prima Knock and Braveheart? when they would like go grab a bride in the wedding day and rape her. I'm pretty sure like he did that. Or like his sons did. And I don't know where they learn it. I mean, I know they torture people. I mean, before we did our little, you know, our bit at Abu Ghraib, you know, it wasn't a holiday in before we got there.

Port of terrorism long before these terrorist networks had a name. I mean, the terrorist. thing. I'm not going to die in a hill that he never, you know, backed any territory. It doesn't seem like it was, you know, dictators, they can, you know, it's the same way we are, you know, in a large ways are somewhat imperial and we, and we have

proxy terrorism. But I mean, a guy like Saddam, you know, the last thing he wants is a bunch, I mean, he, I think he, he wasn't all about just having a bunch of wild terrorists running the streets, getting ideas, you know, thinking for themselves. I think a guy like Saddam leaned into a paramilitary or just military structure, right?

It was that kind of regime. You know, not all regimes are based on chaos. I think Saddam was like, hey, if I lose control here, I don't really have the love of the people. So maybe I won't spread the wealth of weapons and WMDs. The last thing I want is a bunch of guys are sarin gas throwing it at me. And this support continues. The nexus of poisons and terror is new. The nexus of Iraq and terror is old.

So the overall point here is that this was all horseshit. But they still did it. It was nice. It was still a nice thing to do. Before I get any further, because I don't want to forget, I said we make an announcement. So it's not about the Iran. It's not about the Iran war.

We can get back into all that. There's a lot of stuff to do. We don't get everything today. I got, you know, whatever. This has been a good episode. But the point is, elephant in the room, I get, I'm not the elephant, whatever. The point is, I, uh, we all know, uh, people have been asking, where's Lucy?

And, uh, I'm very glad that people, you know, are asking, you know, nothing has gone wrong. Lucy and I are still happily married, but this will be for the time being and for, you know, going forward to a solo show, which it has been for a few weeks on here. on Patreon. Lucy's got a new job recently and she's limited time. She also has some other creative endeavors

she would like to pursue. And so, you know, we're moving. The show is evolving. Going for, yeah, I will start trying to, you know, looking to having guests more, maybe over Skype or even, maybe depending on the configuration in person, do, whatever in the studio.

It's kind of different in here now because I've, whatever. maybe tell by the camera angle. The point is, I'm very glad that, you know, people are so, people,

some people get mad, you know, whatever she didn't go. It's, I don't want to lead with it. Well, you know, let's do a couple episodes,

and then we'll talk, you know, just some people, yeah, whatever. I think they've been good. You know, people,

I think these have been good episodes. Uh, I miss, you know, I love, I love having Lucy on the show. She will come back from time to time on the Patreon. Um,

so, you know, it's, it's, it's, I've told her people, you know, in the comments they're looking for her, and she's very appreciative. So thank you for, you know, and thanks for supporting the show

through a transition. I think it's getting better. I think it's getting tighter. I think it's going to get even tighter. Sounds weird. But the point is, you know, and it's, it is what it is. It wasn't, you know, so like, you know, this is not because it's literally just, you know, people, things happen.

But yeah, we know, We're still the people have acted like, you know, she laughed me. I've eaten her, whatever. You know, none of that's true. Perhaps I'll have her film a video at some point to share. Maybe she can read a prepared mess. I'm leaning into the bit a little bit. No, but yeah, thank you for inquiring.

And sorry if it seemed like I was, you know, whatever. We're moving on. I ramble. Everything I do, I ran. We love Lucy I ran school Why is this worker? Combination is lethal

With this crap I know what happens I have to I'm working on these systems right Like having the videos available to react to it and stuff It's like it's all evolving And I've made it a pretty interesting And maybe I'm wanting a video one day

And you show you my behind the scenes The stream deck I have with the button Configuration and I do some cool stuff and it's getting tighter. Stop saying tighter. But the point is, I need to make a button for on-the-fly searches.

Or maybe just buttons just not work. Let's get to something. Here's Lindsey Graham. And we're going to win. Israel and the United States, you just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks. The next two weeks, meaning what?

We're going to blow the hell out of these people. This regime is in a death now. It is going to be on its knees. It's going to fall. And when it falls, we're going to have peace like another time. We're going to have prosperity unlike anyone could ever imagine. Peace brings prosperity. You can't do it by talking to Democrats criticize this operation. They're going to throw now. And we're going to win. In the United States, you just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks. The next two weeks, meaning what? We're going to blow the hell out of these people.

I mean, well, yeah, I assume he means blows them away. But, you know, that's not the point of the, it just occurs, you know, whatever. Low-hanging fruit. But, you know, but what is this for? Why do we try? Like, I mean, I sort of, Megan McCain share one of these, because there's a few of these out there. Lindsay Graham is a maniac. And we allow him to just, you know, to go back and forth to Israel.

At one point he was saying I got word from net and yon like what is his role? Why are we allowed? I mean, why we allow it? Because we we there's nothing who would not allow it? This we're living in an unchecked kind of time. Um, to be fair or whatever. It is not this is, uh, they don't care what you think is my point. they don't want to make the case to you they don't want to we're gonna blow like blow blow the hell blow these people away they're gonna new go again they want that out there because they're not really again I don't want to some people are out there I think I started this point before and then finish it some people are out there going like well well where the war is actually going really poorly and like yeah right and yeah I think what

they wanted to do uh in the sense like what might have gone better, for instance, is that they assumed, they assumed, for some reason, I guess, I mean, I hope they had some reason to assume this, that they would basically start bombing, and then these people would, like, overthrow the Mullahs or whatever we call these, you know, the Ayatollahs, the government of Iran, the people would rise up because they were going to, I mean, is Trump not, is this been, maybe Trump's not, like when I see that all of a sudden, in the same year, and this before, you know, this is before, obviously the past couple weeks, but yeah, we, we know, is this campaign last year to build up and then, and then bomb Iran the first time,

you know, the first, we have in June, uh, all of a sudden the students are uprising. And then he's killing, killing a student. And like, maybe, are they brutal? Did they, did they kill them? It's very I'm not saying that absolutely didn't happen. I'm not even saying it probably didn't have. I don't know. I take, some of this stuff is like, look,

I will say to some people, you could do well to maybe, but just put some salt on it. That's not the expression. A grain of salt. Put some salt on that, but not Peterbread. You know, you don't have to go half cocked into everything.

But just, things can just give you pause. And you go, all of this, oh, this is an interesting timing, and all of a sudden, there's, I mean, these people, you know, the people who don't question this seem to think that every single protest

is George Soros in America. And maybe something from Marr. I've heard, you know, when I first heard of hearing, and then you start hearing more than some of the details. I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard, like,

a, per se, a well put together, you know, I haven't seen in September 11th to New Pearl Harbor level documentary about that. But I'm open-minded. I do think there's, you know, a lot of forces at work and manipulating things and whatever. Point is, but you try to stay a little grounded, right?

So when you hear about these protests, and you're barely killing these protesters, are these all organic? Are these organic? Are these not juked up? I mean, because we are, I mean, here's the thing. You go, why are we are using it as a sort of excuse for this? right? Not really? I did not really sell. That's the thing.

And you know, a generation ago, they would have said, well, they're killing the program. I mean, that's why we're going in. And I saw some guy today, the comedy seller guy. Norm, whatever, no one. He was like, sure. People forget the reason was tweeting it on X. He was like, people forget that, you know, they were mad because we went to Iraq because they didn't have WMDs. that's why they were mad and then but iraq iran does have them

you know it was like what first of all no one was like people weren't actually like that concern there was like they had to spend a year i showed you they had to go all his effort to convince us about this wmd shit it was a hard sell right like it was literally i think most people were in the position of like well they wouldn't be just be doing this for no reason right like who would do this

And so when they didn't find them, I'll be, I'll be honestly, I've been saying this for years, I was saying at the time, like after a, I don't know, the first week or two weeks or something, like, where is these weapons? Because, I mean, they made it seem like it's just, no, they just, they just have these fucking labs and they have this, it's just, just, there's just, there's just stock full. I mean, Hans Blix was going back and forth to Iraq, right? He seemed to be aware of weapons. Where were they? where you know so when he didn't find them over time I remember saying

like back then like if they don't find them they better plant them because I mean this is fucking crazy and they didn't plant them and very few people seem to care is why I'm calling bullshit in this norm gnome guy totally full of shit no one cares about it no one very few people

even gave his shit that we didn't have WMDs but they were thrilled about it but there wasn't this like big outrage it wasn't this big like what the fuck it was kind of like generally speaking I would say well I would care well I care too mean you cared but many people didn't really wait wait it didn't catch wind they cared when you know soldiers kept coming home dead along up in IEDs and the country turned into chaos and people go why are we here why the fuck are we here right so I'm saying is like this idea and it leads

into this, the idea that we have that they're just... We're going to blow the hell out of these people. This regime is in a death row. The idea that they didn't use these students to in a more direct way is telling. Because

like, yeah, like they, I guess they realized that people didn't, at the end the day, care that much about the W. Like, the lies, like, it's, it's, um, it's probably a term for it. Like a step ladder, a ladder, a pyramid. like the

it's kind of like how when you pass the Patriot Act the next administration doesn't revoke the Patriot Act very few things that are bad that the administration does no matter how much better you think that the

Obama was than Bush or that you know Biden was in I mean as far as like the the war crime like the war stuff they'll change you know executive war but I mean like

but it They very rarely give up war powers, is my point. They very rarely give up, like, authority to arrest you, to spy on you, to surveil you, to steal your eggs out of your uterus while you sleep. Whatever they do. And they probably can do. They can probably see, they can probably call you a terrorist. I guarantee anyone can be, the whole point of law is that they can charge, anyone can be charged

with 15 crimes at once. any given time any DA were to sell was it any DA can indict a ham sandwich they know it the law is meant to be applied

in you know unevenly that's all a point it's why you have six trillion laws it's not there it's not there to protect you is there to be a malaise

a soup so my point is in fact they didn't sell this with the students it's kind of telling and then you have his maniac out here It is going to be on its knee road now. It is going to be on its knees.

It's going to fall. And when it falls, we're going to have peace. Like another time, we're going to have prosperity. Unlike anyone could ever imagine, peace brings prosperity. You can't do it by talking to Democrats criticize this operation. They didn't do a damn thing. These women in the military should make us all. I don't know.

I'm not defending the Democrats of Joe Biden. Except that, like, you know, I do think it's fair to go, Well, they didn't, yeah, they didn't bomb Iran. They didn't, yeah, you're right. You didn't bomb Iran. I hate the person, gotcha. I do think that, like, in this case, these people, well, I suppose you think Kamala will be better.

It's a strange thing to say in response to, like, well, the president seems to be covering up, and his whole administration covering up sex trafficking of children. right you can disagree the extent if you want but I mean that's what's on the table is fighting on you know I I it's hard to imagine you could really cause a necessary war you could say it's a war that you want to fight it doesn't really they didn't bother to sell the ticking clock if there really was one um what else do they don't there's a there's a he's talking me there's whatever point is like yeah to be succinct about it it's kind of it's a strange

owned well you think a model maybe not maybe come model with a bomb finland you could be right we'll never know we'll never know but i mean that it really isn't that's not what a good president does and it's like an understatement like it's very faux pod to be like well leo but you have no idea how bad like you know you didn't see like fucking Reagan going Yeah, I know I ran contra. It was a faux pa, but imagine what Monda would have been like. Like, it's just not something, yeah, it was Mondi. I got that, right, right?

I think so. Was he fighting Bush? Bush won. This is a interesting one. Witness the supreme power of the United States. We're the most powerful military country in the world. Again, I rebuilt it in my first. I spent so much time rebuilding it over a trillion dollars.

And now we just had another budget. We may be going to a trillion and a half times. We're building a thing called the battleship, like in the old days, remember? We have a secretary. It's a good point. It does seem like, look, we haven't, you know, the war has not gone as well as people would have hoped. I don't think we're going to. I keep losing this threat.

I think we could probably beat Iran. I mean, we could. We could beat Iran. It is like much more complicated. with the geography is, you know, the scale of actually invading Iran would be like, I mean, if we're going to do it, that's, I mean, I should have led with that. Maybe I'll do a second. I don't know. Join the Patriot.

Whatever. I'm not going to join the Patriot. I don't mean like that. But, yeah, we'll talk about us more on the Patreon this week. Join the Patreon. But, yeah, no, the geography of Iran, the natural. I mean, Alexander the Great was able to do it, but he did think smartly. He didn't, you know, which does not really seem to be what's going on here.

So, and he, even that, like, whatever, I can't get into it all right now. The point is, um, some people is like, we're losing or, you know, no, I don't think that. I don't think Iran's going to beat us in a war. But yeah, it does hurt your projected power when you're supposed to be like the clear number one. still um i know iran has a lot of missiles relative to its military power like it's power ranking if you want to call it that um i guess a lot of them are like i they're like i see bms but not nuclear i you i was looking at this recently it's like we're like cruise missiles cruise missiles are more local right i think they have like they do they i don't know if icbms

per se because they actually hit america with these missiles i know they're not doing it i don't if they could. I know that nuclear, usually associate these things with nuclear missiles. Probably because, like, you probably wouldn't make a ton of sense, at least in the old days, to, like, fire these things. You know, and I see BM's a lot of fuel. I mean, if you, you know, once you're doing a ton of damage, it may not be worthwhile to, like, put those resources into whatever, that, to do it that way. But, uh, getting ready for a game means being ready for anything, like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I, Remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis hubline.

It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. Yeah, you would think, like, yeah, but he's saying here, a trillion a half dollars maybe. He's doing, we've got a trillion in a half. That's what we spent on the military. We found out about a trillion a year in the military. I don't know that he actually gets

to rebuild. Obama might cut it a bit but I mean like you know again in the comments tell me how wrong I am if I'm wrong I don't think if Obama cut it maybe or like projected I don't even sure if his budget cuts even took effect

um the scale you know but the extent it was scaled down but like you know this is not like oh we were in day oh we're in so much danger whatever we are the danger let's be clear about that. I mean, everyone should want a nuke. Everyone should want a nuke.

This is like the first evidence of everyone wants nukes. Should have been Iraq. And now here's like the big number two. The Navy. I guess I Homo would be number one. Right? And Nagasaki, but you get my point. And he suggested,

I suggest, I've always said, why don't we have battleships anymore, shooting big bullets instead of, you know, $3 million dollar rockets? And they said, well, sir, We just don't have them. We just don't know. What?

He may be right. I don't know. I don't know enough about him. I'm not going to pretend to know. I mean, he sounds crazy in this moment. And there's precedent for Sam sounding crazy. Maybe it makes sense. You could give me the answer, but we're actually building ten of them.

Ten bouts. I said, you know, you remember the old ones from, you'd see Victory at Sea. Remember victory at sea? And you'd see these ships gone through those waves like the waves were nothing, although the waves are pretty powerful. They knock out a lot of territory, but you see these incredible, they're pieces of art.

I mean, I'd like to look into this. What is the point of a battleship back then and now? Were they to fight other boats? Was it to seize a port? Probably the seas like a port, right? With a prevalence of long-range air power and our dominance in the air,

I imagine it's like we tend to just bomb what we need to, like, attack first. Back, I don't know. Like, I don't know if it's just missiles. Maybe, you know, the cruise missiles, I guess. I mean, it seemed to work in Iraq pretty well. We, you know, the shock and all of it, you know, that was literally, they called, it was right, shock.

There was no shame. That's the thing. Back then it seemed garish to call it shock and all, but they still did. I'm not saying these guys were like, they weren't exactly cooth. They were a bit uncouth back then. This is, this is bizarre.

Beautiful, most beautiful. The big battleships of the 1940s, right? Power. Power. I said, would we want to bring them back? Because we have some of them. They're museums and other things. And they said, sir, the new ship is 100 times more powerful than what we were looking at with those guns in front.

It's amazing, right? 100 times. I said, you sure it's not maybe 90 times? 100 times more powerful. And we're building 10 of them. Not to use them. We don't want to use them. But by having them, nobody's going to play games.

You can't do the whole, hey, walk sloughing, carry a big stick thing. All you do is hit people with sticks. All right. It's not really your move anymore. You can't really fall back. Hey, we don't want to use them. You love using them. You definitely want to use them.

It's fine. I mean, not fine, but like just stop saying otherwise. All right. There's so much to get to. But we don't have time. I have to get this up because it's a window. I mean, I should maybe I should start recording these, uh, whatever. I mean, I don't mind doing it.

I wouldn't mind doing another hour at this point, but we got to get it up, so we can, whatever. I mean, I'm trying to ride the algorithm. But thanks so much for sticking around. If you're still here, of course, you're still here. It's great. This is great content. I'm confident.

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