Kump - Ep. 250 Trump’s Final Trip

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

Joe Rogan successfully convinced President Trump this week to fast-track Ibogaine, RFK Can't stop collecting Roaddkill trophies, The White House is feuding with the Vatican. Welcome to KUMP.Suppor...t the show + get bonus episodes every week:https://www.patreon.com/raykump

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan convinced President Trump this week to fast-track approval for the psychedelic drug iBogaine, which can potentially treat addiction and PTSD. We're likely needed because there's a lot more trauma on its way. And also, I'm horribly addicted to paint dinner. A new book revealed that RFK Jr. cut the penis off of a road-killed raccoon while his family sat in the car. because even wealthy kids need to learn that facts don't care about your feelings, and sometimes the dark lord has to get his. Speaking of which, Trump started a feud with Pope Leo,
Starting point is 00:00:40 calling him soft on crime and very liberal, because he objected to the killing of civilians. J.D. Vance said the Pope should be careful when speaking about theology, to which the Pope responded, Tell that dumb cuck to keep my name out of it. his mouth or I'll stop his bitch ass out. No cap. The straight of whore moves is open.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Oh, wait, now it's closed again. Open, closed, open, closed. We're having peace talks. Never mind, we just destroyed a cargo ship. I didn't even know this thing existed two months ago. And frankly, I'm sick of hearing about it. And that's exactly the point. Mass layoffs, constant war crimes,
Starting point is 00:01:26 an unending refrain of AI companies foaming at the mouth to convince you that every job you could ever do is already replaced. They're throwing the kitchen sink at our skulls trying to convince us that this is the end of the world, which actually may be cause for hope, because when's the last time these scumbags ever told the truth about anything? Welcome to Kump. With one dose of Ibogaine, more than 80% of people are free of that addiction. two doses, it's more than 90%. I sent him that information. The text message came back, sounds great.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Do you want FDA approval? Let's do it. It was literally that quick. Was it literally that quick, Joe Rogan? You also literally that quick? It was like two weeks ago you were saying that he covered up the Epstein files by doing this war in Iran.
Starting point is 00:02:19 But it's good, you know, it's good that you get an Ibrahim done after all these years that quickly. Did you ask him, hey, why you're on the toilet? sir could you release the files by the way how did you meet your wife it's a little ridiculous am i not wrong i know joe's you know i'm sure his heart's in the right place he's been talking about ibegain for years apparently you know it's an instant uh it's a magical drug you talk to the aliens and you're and you're dumb addiction they say it works trumps just you know i wonder if trump's gonna you know follow through on this um these drugs are
Starting point is 00:02:56 not because they're harmful. They're illegal because of the 1970 Controlled Substances Act that was passed by the Richard Nixon administration. They did it to target the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement. It's not because these drugs harm people. And for 56 years, we've lived under those terrible conditions. I mean, look, it's nice. This is nice. I mean, I do wonder if Trump is hearing this and like, you know, going, right, right, the Civil Rights Act and the, Or is he saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. Keep talking shit. You're going to talk shit now? I got you by the balls.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm got this Ibergain over your head, Joe. He's like the mafia. We're free of that now. We're free of that now. Thanks to all these people that we see next to me, and thanks to President Trump. I want to thank you. We all respect, Joe, and it's a little bit more liberal than... That's okay.
Starting point is 00:04:05 He's saying you fucking prick. I got you. I have friends that are liberal. But Joe is an amazing guy. And he wrote me a little note about this. And I had it checked out. I didn't just do it. I had it checked out.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He didn't like that. He didn't like Joe being like, I said to do it and he did it. You know, Trump is, yeah. Let's don't get it twisted. I'm the scumbag in here. I'm the one who takes a shit on the desk. Why not you, Joe Rogan?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Went to Bobby and Oz. I went to some of the people that work for you. He isn't like, you look, go, Joe's head. I mean, look, I think Joe means well here, I hope. But, you know, I just think... And everybody came back with the same answer. You know, normally they'll come back, because this happens. At the end of the day, he's kind of, you know, he's got, he's in a tough spot.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You know, he's back to this lunatic. Probably didn't mean, you know, he probably, you know, he got a little twisted, got a little twisted. Got a little twisted around. And now he's, like, trying to get, you know, trying to get what you can out of it. You know, at the end of the day, you know, it's like, you know, good luck. A lot. I have a couple of them like that. They're not sure. It's like, you know, it goes two ways.
Starting point is 00:05:05 This thing, everybody thought it was incredible. And I told Bobby, I said, Bobby, let's just do it and get Oz involved. And it's going to get done so quickly. And you guys did. I was get Dr. Oz involved. I mean, this is just like, it's a cavalcade of shit here. Would you like to say something else? Mr. President, I want to thank that Zord in the back there,
Starting point is 00:05:27 who actually on Sunday wrote a draft for this. You already thanked Heidi and Callie. but, you know, Susie Wiles makes everything run here. This was an unimaginable task in one week to be able to go from a series of connections and communications of Joe Rogan through. This is not getting done. This is not getting done.
Starting point is 00:05:43 This is not getting done. Look at these guys. No one here is going to give Ibo getting the soldiers here. I guarantee. I mean, I'll eat my hat. I mean, I think Rogan would. But look at this crew. Look at this crew of crying crooks.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Not going to stop. We didn't start calling everyone down. The fight. Steph Spears has been involved. and Chris Colump, who's been doing a fantastic job, helping run everything in great efficiency, made something. I just want to emphasize this.
Starting point is 00:06:08 This is an entire paradigm shift away from a one-day-a-pill model, which has failed so many. And to many who are drug-resistant that Joe just spoke to, this offers them a way of getting out of that ruck. The question now is, can we study... Oh, oh, oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Why it works, to understand it better, to use it better. That's what Jay Bhattashari is going to do, NIH with basically... That's where the... That's where we get lost. Now we don't see. This is this is a photo op.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Hope not. I hope it's good. I look, I would have played this differently, but I don't have to. I mean, Joe Rogan's built an empire. I haven't built an empire like Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But my instinct would have been to try to convince Trump to use this, to convince Trump to do it. You know, he's not going to do it. But hopefully you can get Trump addicted to heroin in the process. And I think that would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I think at this point it would be because nothing's getting like I don't think we're going to fix a lot of stuff you know, we'll see how the midterms goes you know, maybe we have whatever, you know, we'll see if he gets arrested, if he gets put in jail or if he bombs Cuba
Starting point is 00:07:14 but in the meantime, if we can get him hooked on smack I think that would be a real fun time for everyone because it's gonna get, you know, he's already volatile, there's no downside. You know, if you talk about Obama or like even Nixon, you go, Well, you, this guy shouldn't be doing heroin in the Oval Office. You know, who knows what could have?
Starting point is 00:07:33 We know what could happen. Best, I mean, he might just not have a lot. And you go, why, how is it? Because you convince him that he could just use his eyes. Because he's probably afraid of getting, like, you know, he doesn't want to become addicted. He doesn't want to go, you know, he'll say like something like, oh, I don't want to go away to Jimmy Hendrix.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And like, no one would think that, sir. But, you know, Jimmy Hendricks, he was a hell of a guitar player, but yeah, he vomited all over himself. disgusting. He wouldn't want it. But you tell him there's this drug you take it. You just take it. You put it in an edible. You give him a vape and I've gained vape. And so you just take this the next morning and you're fine, no addiction. That's not going to work. And Trump, it would be hilarious. I mean, if that, if that's the thing, because, you know, I feel like, I don't think Rogan thought the Iran war was going to happen. I don't think he thought, you know, he was going to start bombing
Starting point is 00:08:23 everyone and if the country was, you know, you know, you know, you know, we're, you know, you know, we're not really in control over our own country and, you know, it's just criminals and there's, you know, profiting off the oil spikes back and for up and down, up and down, profit, profit, profit, just steal, steal. I don't think he thought that. You know, I think, so he's like, oh, you know, maybe we can, uh, we can get something going.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But this point is, it's just, you know, like just, just try to just get him to the heroin. That's the game. You just get him, because there's nothing, would be and he come and then you come out and you go yeah you want to be rude you fucking ruin my reputation now you're now you're a junkie he's comes out in the middle of a you know in middle of that white house uh when's that fight gonna happen he's calling the fight and goes down he went and trump's just nodding off i mean this is a crazy scheme i guess it would have to
Starting point is 00:09:18 involve like rogan also kind of um convene you know pushing the actual smack i mean i don't know if Trump's really into downers. He seems to be more of an Adderall guy allegedly. No, I mean, everyone says it. A Diet Coke guy, a McDonald's guy. If you could introduce heroin into his life using
Starting point is 00:09:41 the ibogaine, that's like an impractical joker's thing. See, I don't mean it's in a negative way. I don't want you to think I'm being some kind of, you know, dark force. You know, I don't wish any harm on Trump. It would be funny. He'll have a laugh at it.
Starting point is 00:09:56 He'll still be like he can kick it He's got the best doctors in the world He's like he treats his body like crap anyway And he's still fine He's doing fine Oh, it looks like he's got marks on his arm He's 90 whatever Doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:10:13 I feel you know They'll put him in Walter Reed They'll give him an IV You know, maybe the IBA game works And then you know And then the jokes ruined But I mean it's good for the soldiers I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:25 I mean but you know there's going to be a lot of dark things, you know, coming our way. When they kind of round up everyone, he's thinking, you know, like, let's pivot now. And imagine that, you know, the joke gets ruined and the Ibrahimagane actually works. And Joe Rogan's actually seen as like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:45 a great man again. That people don't go, oh, Trump, you've ever trying to kill us people. They say, they're going, you save the soldiers. Because it's true. A lot of these soldiers They have horrible PTSD from the terrible things they have to do or done to them. And, you know, and on top of that, we're all going to be soldiers soon,
Starting point is 00:11:09 not like brave soldiers. Like, you know, but in the sense that we're, you know, we're running away from machines. We're hunted. You know, that we were trying, you know, we try to break out of the, you know, just, they'll be kind of like low-level prisons that we live in.
Starting point is 00:11:28 We're not going to have like, you know, what's this thing? You have to escape the matrix, you know, or are you going to be part of the permanent underclass? There's going to be a lot of permanent underclass, you know? And optimistically, we won't be destroyed immediately by the machines. Yeah, but it's going to be kind of, you know, like they keep saying we're going to have an AGI, right?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Like, like, the AGI, that's the, what is this? the universal basic income, UBI. They get floating out around. That these people, the worst people in the world, there's tech guys, the worst people, the most sociopathic monsters who've ever, I mean, they've already started, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:07 mostly destroyed a perfectly fine world with their, with their social media and their, and their, in their apps. Just, just, you know, just a, just a, just a, it's like a monkey's paw, these tech things, you know? They give us a smartphone. they give us the Tomogachi they give us the iPod I know the Tomogachi seems like it's not much but that's that was big I remember when I was a kid if you don't remember tomogachi it was an egg it was a little
Starting point is 00:12:35 egg and you would and you would have a little LCD screen with some kind of you know a little pokey monster you know and it would shit you got to like you know push a button to make a shit go away and that was priming I realized now I was being primed right I was being primed to accept a a digital son, a digital child, you know, and in some way you accept the humanity of a, of a, of a computer that scrapes, scrapes digital museums and digital, you know, every book, hey, here's every book ever written. Just take this and make it your personality. Pretend to be a person and just you can just kind of pave the world over with your, with your wires. I got away from myself here? Possibly.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's a nightmare. It's a living nightmare I'm describing. But maybe they gave you the Ibegain. You take the abigaine every night. And you go, this is all right. This is not that bad. Thank you, Joe Rogan. You'll thank him.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Because the dark, you know, when you watch your wife or your children be torn apart by the hunter or seeker, it'll be shaped like a turtle, but with a giant spike coming out of it, you know? say, oh, my God, what's it going to do, put my wife down and takes it, but, you know, takes their arms and their legs, and it rips her and a half. And you go, oh, my, I mean, this is not even any point in scream, but you scream, right? This is terrible. It's the worst thing I've ever heard of him. It's horrible. How you get, how you, you don't even want to live after that.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You love your wife. You get the Ibegan. It's like, I know, say, you know, and it sounds horrible. You know, case, sarah, sarah, whatever will be, will be. That's, that's how we'll be. Now, matter of thinking, what? It's, in, I know Joe Rogan's not thinking that per se. He thinks that we're going to have a nice world the way he knew it. And these soldiers
Starting point is 00:14:35 who, you know, who drew the short stick of experience who've been, you know, who are, you know, in horrible shape. You know, have a nice, little kind of have their barbecues again. Right? And that would be nice. But, you know, it might be
Starting point is 00:14:51 the other thing. It might be that, you know, That's the baseline that we need this is just what you get every day is a we get a ration now why would they people keep telling me I'm crazy because I think that the computers will wipe us out or the or these upper classes wipe us out no, they'll keep us alive. I don't know why I don't know what we're providing but in this but they keep saying it so maybe I'm dumb. So this is part of the thing. They'll give you I mean that's the thing you won't have a house you won't have a car right you'll be nomadic you'll go where they're want you. They'll move you around to fit their needs, to fit their current models of where people should be. You're like digital.
Starting point is 00:15:34 You're like props. Maybe you'll do art. I mean, everyone thinks they're going to sit around and become artists. To be one giant art enclave for these eight, you know, but most people are not really, don't even want to be artists. You know, they find the whole, they find the idea of an artist. To be kind of, these are, most people like, if we were inclined to be artists, you would think that we'd be more, look, I don't want to sound like I have like highfalutant taste here. But if we were all sitting around waiting to be ours, you'd think we'd like we would love fine cinema and love and Shakespeare and, you know, and great, and we go museums all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Some people do most of us don't most of us to the right you know we we you see what gets put on you people watch the I mean I love the traders Don't I don't want to slag off the traders with with uh what's his name the guy who played nightcrawler Alan Cummings everyone gets you know everyone gets together in a mansion and they basically play that among us game and you know but it's fake right it was supposed to be real I can't tell these reality am I supposed to enjoy it as a fake thing? Like, is the reality? I mean, I don't even know. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's good. You know, it's, you know, it's flavor, flave, and Eidiamine, and, you know, and the guy who shot Reagan all get together in a mansion and go, which one is a traitor? Like, this is great. I mean, it's fine. But, like, we all like that. So the idea that we're all going to sit around, like, you know, and lays about while the machines do all the work.
Starting point is 00:17:17 and I'm going to like, you know, write Chaucer. I'm going to be the new Chaucer, the new Canterbury Tales or, you know, I'm going to write a, I'm going to, I'm going to be the guy who writes a scarlet letter, whatever. It doesn't seem like people want to be artists. They want a house. They want the things that you're not going to have.
Starting point is 00:17:37 They want the house. They want the boat. They want the boat. They want the house. They want a barbecue. You can't have those things. Barbecues need meat. You get the sluble.
Starting point is 00:17:47 pump that'll be a slot pump that'll feed you just kind of goop soy soy's not bad your soy gets a bad rap I like you take you take tofu chunks it's extra firm tofu you break it up you throw it in the air fryer do a few waves comes that crispy it won't be like that though it'll be it'll be like a like a wet it might be some tofu and a lot you know it's kind of food garbage kind of pumping into you. I imagine, like, I don't want to get too, you know, mired in the details here. But I know, this is what we're talking. We need the Ibegain because your Thanksgiving dinner is going to be essentially you walk up to a gas station, the equivalent of a gas station, and you take, you take the gas pump, it'll be the food pump, but the same thing.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Sometimes you mix, there'll be mixed use. Sometimes you'll mix it up. Although I don't, I doubt, I doubt you'll be a lot. lot of to take fuel maybe a piss pump you got to be careful you know it's giving you gas for free it's the only reason you're not mixing it but there might be a piss and shit pump uh so you you you you you walk up and you and you and you go hey it's thanksgiving i'm here for my my uh six seconds of pump yeah oh yeah yeah you know here you go happy thanksgiving it's normally four seconds be an extra two seconds and you and you and you mount this tube into your mouth this
Starting point is 00:19:14 basically, you know, repurposed gas pump. And it just pumps wet slop down your goet. And you go, oh, this is, it tastes, it tastes like death. A lot of it is, I mean, some of it's human. You know, I mean, you don't know. That's not the trauma. I mean, there's a psychic trauma. I do believe, you know, there's a, there is a mystical world that surrounds us.
Starting point is 00:19:41 To some extent that we understand that, you know, know the pump of food that's full of human flesh it's not all human flesh it's not it's not it's not like literally like the matrix when you feed each other to each other it's just kind of you know it's whatever's around and that's traumatic so you take the ibegain and so we thank you know you know all day all night joe rogan you guess what you got to do you have to recite that all day all day all night joe rogan podcast by day and night when they pump it into you the slop, the food slop. And if you want to be all like, you know, why am I actually referred to Mark
Starting point is 00:20:22 Barron, so I'm not going to take you abigain. I'm a Marin fan. Well, Mark Barron ain't even doing shit for you. At least in this scenario, you're getting some relief. You know, appreciate things. You people need to appreciate things more. That's all I'm saying. RFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:20:43 once cut penis off road killed raccoon in New York. new book reveals. All these things seem to happen in New York with this guy. It's very interesting. He's a very interesting cat. This is this RFK Jr. Because you would think these things would happen in some kind of like deliverance
Starting point is 00:21:04 situation, some kind of a well that's funny. Is that Tylenol next to him as in the ad? I didn't plan that. I don't remember if he was the one who's pro-tylon. It doesn't matter. All these wonderful weird controversies mixed together. RFK
Starting point is 00:21:19 junior but he he he he kind of bear up in Manhattan and in Central Park he uh just drives around with dead animals i got health secretary in a diet diary so he has a diary a diary entry said his kids were in the car as he cut off animals genitals in 2001 to study them later i wonder if he ever got to it this is him uh this is him at the uh testifying at the the budget whatever RFK Jr. once got a penis of a roadkill raccoon, an incident that is just one of several involving dead animals that the controversial U.S. Health Secretary has been involved in. A new book called RFK Jr., The Fall and Rise, that's cute. The Fallen Rise was published this week and reveals a diary entry for Kennedy that describes the prominent vaccine critic and leader of the Make America Healthy again, Maha movement, stopping his car with a New York. highway on November 11th, 2001.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I was standing in front of my cart car on I-684, because it wasn't in Manhattan. New York's a big state. Some of it's much more rural, we call upstate. So thankfully, it was there. It would give me pause if all of this happened on the Lower East Side. On the I-684, cutting the penis out of a roadkill raccoon, thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Kennedy wrote in the journal Now, look, here's the thing. I'm going to say that again. I was standing in front of my parked car on I-684, cutting the penis out of a road-killed raccoon thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be,
Starting point is 00:23:07 he wrote. He's either a very funny guy, which maybe it's hard to tell with his voice. I don't want to do an impression. He talks like, yeah, blah. And, you know, look, he's done a lot, right? He's a lawyer. It's that weird life.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You know, like he would hear me critique him. What do you know, who the fuck are you? I'm, I'm an environmental lawyer. You know, I cut the eyes. I have a shark once. You know, I found a bird. I just bit his head off in front of my kids and said, you know, happy Halloween.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It was Valentine's Day. Who are you, comp? And I go, fair enough. I have not done those things. You know, I can't do as many pushups as him as include. You guys in great shape in his advanced age. Yeah, there's a lot going on. And so what I'm saying is that might be that's a very funny line and that you know
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's one way to view it and like I would tend to you know given the benefit of the doubt And you have to because Otherwise I mean it's crazy. I mean it's a diary so I don't know who the humor before It's possible like go look the guy is odd. It's very possible also that it's not and he's just sitting there going Yeah, you know He doesn't see the irony of it because I'm like I'm like It's a funny thing to say, I'm cutting this fucking raccoon's dick.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Hey, you know, by the way, my cousin's a real drunk, you know, I'm cutting this raccoon's dick, and I'm holding it, I'm slapping it in the face of its own dead dick. And, oh, yeah, my,
Starting point is 00:24:38 my aunt, my aunt's a real, real shut in. What a dumb, she's a hoarder. What a dumb bitch. It's funny. But,
Starting point is 00:24:48 but it might be crazy. If it's sincere, it's a little crazy. It's all I'm saying. These things seem crazy. He doesn't see it. Maybe if he had a normal voice, right? He's married to Cheryl Hines.
Starting point is 00:25:03 She's funny. She's on Caribbean enthusiasm. Maybe she's a very funny guy. Or maybe he's out of his mind. I don't know. I was standing for my progress. He added, my kids waited patiently in the car. I mean, if he's crazy, it's very crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It's very dark if it's real. if it's not, like, ironic. Isabel Vincent, the author of the new book, told people they took the raccoon's genitals so he could study them later. Kennedy has a long kind of fascination for animal bodies, especially those he finds dead, which he sometimes collects in studies.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Elsewhere in the book, the author knows that a journalist traveling with Kennedy in Long Island in 2001 reported that he was fascinated by dead seagull corpses. Look, I mean, it seems to me, It strikes me as a bit like, well, like, I'm not saying that like dead animals couldn't be interesting. It's always a little bit like you see a dead. I mean, I mean, you see a dead lizard by the beach.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's a bit fascinating, right? Like, no one's saying it's like, no one's saying that you just walk past it like blazee. You know, you, you poke it with a stick. That's fine. I think it's fine to poke it with a stick when you're a young person, teenager, whatever. either kids and stand by me or something or you know any older teen even in your 20s look i'll it's that that's fun you know it's it's part of you know we're experiencing finding falling in love with a natural world like teddy roosevelt yeah um you get a little older it gets a little
Starting point is 00:26:42 weirder i'll admit it gets a little weirder i still would say it's all right poking with a stick when you start taking pieces every go i'm gonna keep this that gets weird that gets weird It's a little weird to go, I want this forever. Or, you know, you go, I didn't want it forever. I just wanted it for a time, just for a time, comp, you liar, just for a bit, forever, fair enough, just for a bit. I stand correct, you know, an indeterminate an amount of time. Because he's not a, he's not a biologist.
Starting point is 00:27:15 He's not like a, he's not like, uh, what is he doing with this stuff, right? he's not you know he's he's an environment environmental lawyer I don't know I mean I don't think he's I mean I remember when my mom there was a stray cast my parents would feed
Starting point is 00:27:36 and they got poisoned anti probably anti free whatever and I was working at the morgue and the doc and then you know I talk to the doctor and she's like oh you can take a look at it and you know the dead cat and but then it came closer you know you got the cat in a box
Starting point is 00:27:51 you know and like I brought it to the doctor and the doctor tomorrow was like yeah you know look I would do it but it's like I'm not a cryptozoologist I'm a forensic pathologist so it's really no point if I do find something it means nothing
Starting point is 00:28:07 and like she was kind of going I can still look at it but I was like you know you could tell when someone doesn't really want because it's not like what I'm she realized what am I doing this is not my expert it's not my field and so she and then you would think but this is a very
Starting point is 00:28:21 I guess there are people who just do autopsies on animals, right? And that's fine, you know, but this is a pretty close field. There's already, just someone cuts up dead people and organs. So the environment is a lawyer just seems like it's not really, he's not really going to be able to, you know, I don't think he can go and use this raccoon penis and say, hey, look at this, look at this, this penis, you know, it's, this is, this means We really should rethink tort reform, animal tort reform because of this raccoon cock. It's just not, I mean, it's just, it's just curiosity.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You just want to see what's inside the raccoon cock. That's fine. It's fine to want to know. But it's just real. It's weird. I mean, I don't know how this woman got his journal diaries. Do you approve this? Were these diaries stolen?
Starting point is 00:29:17 He should really, I mean, if it's not true, by the way, make an announcement. sir, Mr. Secretary. Defend yourself if this isn't true. I'd like to pick up some of those dead seagulls from my skull collection, the book, Quartz Kennedy is saying. There was scheduled on that day did not allow him to pause his journey and harvest the bones.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, I got to make the donuts, you know, no time for, no time for love. I'd love to take that skull, that seagulls. See, he's called the collection. So I was writing my first, he wants it forever. It said, look, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, is an order A lot of didact? Is that the word for this?
Starting point is 00:29:57 I mean, I might have nothing to do with this. I'm thinking that, you know, a person who likes to do a lot of stuff. I might just say, you know, the term for something crazy. But he's a guy who, he's a, he's a raconteur. He's a renaissance man, perhaps. Environmental groups were outraged or a story which revealed a former presidential candidate. once severed the head off a washed up the deceased whale with a chainsaw and strapped it to his roof car's roof he also once confessed to dumping a dead bear cub in new york city central park
Starting point is 00:30:31 attempting to make it look like the creature was killed by a cyclist none of this seems scientific i gotta be honest of you like where is all this stuff what is he like doing with any of this if you go to his i mean i don't know where his primary i know like he lived in California I think immediately before this now he lives in DC I guess I mean I assume his places in New York he's part of the Kennedy family maybe they have places and where are they from Massachusetts and stuff whatever I don't know I don't keep track of the man I'm saying do does one of these houses have like just yeah you I've never I don't ever been to a place to have like a house that had taxidermy but I feel like I've seen at least in a museum
Starting point is 00:31:19 tax is he taxed you guys he taxed you guys he's not ever been to a place to have like a Dermy in these things or is he just kind of letting things rot in his backyard once they're sufficiently rotted maybe maybe he burns it I can you can you taxidermy or whales head after you hit with a chains up maybe I feel like it would be odd maybe he's there are I mean sometimes you go to a fish restaurant which I'm in Long Island or some and they have like this like these giant fish these actual fish I get I've asked them they said they were actual fish on the walls but they're like they lacquer them I guess it looks like lacquer if
Starting point is 00:31:55 it's not lacquer maybe something you tell me in the comments if you know about these fish and how they make them look look so shiny and fake on the wall but they're real maybe he does that to the whale with the chainsaw I'm just saying is there like a house of I mean if you have like a lab maybe he look just come out and say that you have the most elaborate and weird Halloween house right in the Northeast. The kids in the kids in the Marcus Vineyard or whatever these people are from,
Starting point is 00:32:28 wherever they hang out. They all, every year, they go, what is, what is Uncle Bobby, you know, cut off, cut up for us this year? What, what Halloween treats? It's exciting. You know, you're a five-year-old kid. You know, they put your hand in the box
Starting point is 00:32:46 when you were like a poor kid, right? When you're a poor kid, you put your hand in the box and it's like spaghetti and they go, it's like brains. and holding cold spaghetti. But we Uncle Bobby, it's like, you're, you're, no, this is a whale's brain
Starting point is 00:33:00 that you're holding. Wild, wild stuff. Exciting stuff. I got you. It's a whale's brain. It's not a human brain. I mean, if it's mad. I mean, it was like, you put your hand,
Starting point is 00:33:14 I mean, it would just fill the whole box up in this scenario. I mean, he's like, you know, I don't know if his patter is as good. Like, you know, he was he would be sitting there and maybe he has a few cars i believe he was a drink he's sober i figured him have you know in a rocking chair and a whiskey every time his kid puts his fucking hand in the box he goes ah that's actually a whale's brain when the kid just looks up and it's like
Starting point is 00:33:41 his mother was like say thank you to uncle bobby is that my uncle like just calling up say thank you she just you know you don't want to piss him off powerful guy he's like i mean he's like i don't I think you shouldn't be afraid of him, but, you know, he's a powerful guy, especially in the area. He's got a dead whale. He's letting your son touch it. You don't want to, like, make an enemy out of him. Who knows what he's up to? He's a good guy, but I'm just saying, like, if a guy's, if a guy has a box of dead whale brains on Halloween, I don't want that guy to be my enemy.
Starting point is 00:34:14 There's no reason for it. Let's not, let's not be ridiculous. Trump, Pope Leo, feud publicly. here's who said what and what so this is like a timeline of this whole I don't know this is insane to me this whole thing
Starting point is 00:34:32 with Trump means what look the Pope here's the Pope the Pope is like no one listens to the Pope really I mean these Catholics people who aren't Catholic you watch gangs in New York and you get this idea that like he's like ah you guys
Starting point is 00:34:47 they do what the Pope in Rome tells him to do which in the Middle Ages I guess I understand like it used to be a more per. I don't know when it stopped. I guess the Pope can influence, but as a guy who grew up Catholic, I feel like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:02 the Pope doesn't really seem to put, you know, it's just kind of like, you know, he's going to be pro-life, anti-war, and don't care. Like,
Starting point is 00:35:14 whatever. I mean, only recently, it wasn't because of the Pope. I didn't think, I mean, as I got older, I didn't think the abortion thing was ever going to,
Starting point is 00:35:22 you know, and it did, but not because of the Catholic. I mean, with those Catholics, maybe I'm wrong. I could be, I don't think Trump did it for Catholic, you know, the Supreme Court, it's a lot of, I don't, I mean, we're a big part of the world population, America, Catholics, you know, I guess there's a decent amount, but I mean, it's more of a Protestant country. So it's always kind of like, you know, you show, it's very easy to just say, hey, the Pope, you know, the Pope's got his priorities.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He's a great man We all strive We all strive to be You know Close to God And you know We do our best But sometimes you know
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's some bullshit The last thing you need to do Is trying to like Convince people Not to listen to the It's a crazy ask It's a crazy like Hey the Pope said
Starting point is 00:36:13 You know When you said you shouldn't You know You're going to wipe out a whole civilization He said like the Pope was like Hey that's not right what do that what that motherfuckers it's just such a crazy response
Starting point is 00:36:25 not because like you can think he's a little you can think the pope's too liberal I guess I mean I see look here's the thing I don't understand um I get the the pope seems like a weird position than me the pope seems like this thing where it's like he's God's representative on earth
Starting point is 00:36:44 did Jesus really like lay that out he said Peter the rock of my church but like I don't know if we really envisioned the whole bureaucracy and the hierarchy and the rules and whatever. I mean, you can say that like, you know, by extension, he did it. Like, all right. But like, I'm sympathetic to the idea that's like, who's this guy? But just, but instead just go after the,
Starting point is 00:37:10 just go after him for being too liberal. Like, no, we want, we believe he's God's representative on earth. We want him to like, you know, be for the death penalty. just seems like a strange combination of that. An unusual view between President Trump and the head of the Catholic Church, Pope Leo, has broken out in recent days over the United States and Israel's war in Iran, even during other international religious leaders.
Starting point is 00:37:32 The public has been spoken of his criticism of the war, which Trump said he launched February 28 to stop Iran from Tianan, and you go, yeah, we get all that. Blessed of the, this is the Pope talking. Blessed are the peacemakers, but woe to those who manipulate religion and the very name of God for their own military, economic, and political gain, dragging that which is sacred
Starting point is 00:37:55 into darkness and filth. So he said that in April 16th, so that was like Thursday, while in Cameroon. The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants, he said, not specifically named Trump or the war against I around. Which is, look, here's a thing. I think this article has like a whole timeline or something.
Starting point is 00:38:15 But that's like after like days of like back and forth. He didn't come out and, like, lead with any of that. That's still, like, you know, like, you know, even if you know what I would tell Trump to do, hey, we're sorry he feels that way. We're sorry he feels that way. You know, I respect the Pope.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Pope's a great guy. You just don't need to get into it. On Easter Sunday, Trump said that if Iran didn't open the street by his opposed deadline, he ordered attacks on various infrastructure. Later the same day, the Pope called the threat's unacceptable. Today, as we all know, there was this threat against the entire people of Iran.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That's truly unacceptable. And, like, these people, you know, Trump and they're actually terrorists. And they, and then why doesn't he talk to it? Why doesn't he say anything when Iran kills people, when he can and kills the women? First of all, I mean, they do have very inflated numbers, but I'm never saying Iranism. I'm like, you know, some dandy innocent, right? It's a complicated thing. It's one thing that one, you know, nothing is right to like just start a war unprompted over some, you know, trumped up church.
Starting point is 00:39:23 No, no pun intended trumped up charge. To say Iran's like, you know, are they, oh they, no, look, that's, you can have that discussion much easier in the process of bombing them, you know, profusely. But regardless, the more important point there is, why isn't he, why is he bringing it up to when I ran this stuff? I don't probably because they're not, you know, Catholics and Iran. It means, like 10 Catholics. It's not his purview as much. You can go, like, you know, it's just, you know, Trump's not, is Trump Catholic.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I don't even know what Trump is. But, you know, the Pope is not in charge of, like, the Protestants and, but, you know, it's still, it's a little closer. If your contention is that, like, you know, Muslims are violent and when you go, why doesn't he tell the Muslims what to do? He's not.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He's not his thing. He's like, he's telling you, like, hey, just, just, this is, You can't just go bombing civilians. They're like, ah! No one's telling you you have to be good people. That's my point. No one's telling you.
Starting point is 00:40:21 No one's really saying that you have to do the right thing. That's the crazy thing. It's like we're acting like that we're being asked to like, you know, be upstand, you know, great men. It's like, hey, just don't threaten to bomb the kids. Come on. I'm the Pope. I got to say something. This scumbag pope, you know, the Pope, very liberal.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Barry scummy baby everybody reads a lot of uh reads a lot of troskey it's commie pope I don't like it it's just such a it's such a petty thing
Starting point is 00:40:58 it's what makes Trump I didn't want to glaze the guy but like you know I don't say what makes them great because it's not objectively great but you know the things that make them enjoyable right you might like if you think it makes it great whatever
Starting point is 00:41:12 but I'm saying like it's a bit is objectively funny a lot of the time it's what is what is very least is what it's what people respond to it's it's the kind of the banter it's just like you know you you you've you make a critique of him and he calls you a loser calls you a dumb fuck hey look at you shit your pants look here you shoot your pants very smelly smelly guy you don't get you don't get you don't do that as well as it should look you come be shitting your back
Starting point is 00:41:44 I don't shoot my pants with Mr. President Trump. Yes, he do. Whatever. It's fun. It's all fun of the games. And you go, well, look, I mean, it gets more serious as he's, you know, as you're kind of cascading down to World War III. Um, and again, the Pope is like, well, I got to say something. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Oh, you look. I mean, just don't bomb a civilian. It's come back, Pope. He'll let you be on my side. And he's saying, he's saying vans and like, heck set. I mean, Hexsath is like a, it's, it's goddamn crazy Hexed, right? It's, it's, it's, this guy, like, wants to do the Crusades. He's just some born-again psycho.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I was people getting mad at him for that, for that, for that Pulp Fiction, uh, quote he was doing. I don't think he said it was Ezekiel. I think he said, like, there was something that we, like, they, they play in the hell. We did in the helicopters. The guy to do the helicopter saying is prayer. I was going to play the clip and I'm like, you know, watch it. And I'm like, look, it seems like, you know, Because everyone's saying he, like, misquoted the Bible, which is definitely not from the Bible.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But I think this is supposed to be some military thing, which, yeah, they didn't say it was Pulp Fiction, but it obviously was like, you know, they're using like the term helicopter in it. I don't think it was supposed to be like, you know, a Bible lift. But whatever. I'm not in front of me, you know, run about what do I get for running, you know, what does Hecks that do for me when I, because I looked that up online. No one's pointing that out, really. No one's pointing that out.
Starting point is 00:43:14 But me, and I'm like, I think the guy's great. But like, you should really be helping me out a little bit, Hexat. Maybe you should come on my show. Because no one else is pointing that out. I'm a fair guy. It doesn't seem like that's the worst, like, indictment of Hexath. Is that, you know, he repeated to a bunch of military guys. There's, like, thing that they say to each other, which, yes, is based on full fictions.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And which is also sort of, which is the reinterpretation of Ezekiel or whatever. Parts of that are in Ezekiel, not much of it, but some of it. But it seems like there's something they do. It's like, you know, when we did Abu Ghraib, we would, we would say this thing, the CSAM 2650, whatever the hell. We just sort of inspired by Ezekiel. As we hooked up a car battery to some, you know, go farmer. We would see CSAM 50. You know, which in like, I don't think the big crime here is that like he didn't point out that Tarantino wrote it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 You know, it's like just sort of. I'm a fair guy, is all I'm saying. But he has these weird tattoo, and they say they're racist. I don't, I don't, they seem to be, the video, they do seem Crusader like, though. It's the very least, whatever they, you know, like, I don't know what they're supposed to be. Like they were turtonic or not through time. What's the, what's the, like, they're weird, right? These weird tattoos.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And he's very like, yeah, come, really, really. And, you know, and I guess, is he, he's probably not Catholic, these guys. But, you know, you would think the Pope, I guess people just kind of. despise the pope who aren't catholic and the catholic churches his own problems they're going to be wrong they have their own sexual scandal uh of course you know if i was trump i was trying to pivot to that maybe instead i'd be like you know you know the pope the pope he likes talk a lot he looks a lot he looks like to talk a lot of shit what happened with those boys moving around move around huh you know that you know that's fair talk about that and you know what the turban epstein
Starting point is 00:45:13 Let's talk about the files. But I'll see if he wants to flash out that way. But to lash out of it, like, you know, I said, the dumb pope, so don't shoot civilians. Very dumb. After a tenuous ceasefire deals, only by returning negotiations can the war come to an end. Yeah, that seems like, you know, it's just,
Starting point is 00:45:38 it doesn't seem like, it seems like, is this a stricent effect or whatever? Oh, one way they're referencing enough of the idolatry of self and money, the Pope said. Enough of the, this is from, oh, during a prayer, oh, it's actually recent. During a prayer service in April 11th, the Pope decried the delusion of omnipotence that surrounds us and is becoming increasingly unpredictable and aggressive. The remarks came as US and Iranian leaders met in Pakistan for peace talks, which ended without a resolution. Quote, enough of the idolatry of self and money, the Pope said. enough of the display of power, enough of war.
Starting point is 00:46:17 True strength comes, true strength is shown in serving life. It's just, and then the next day, I don't want to say it's generic. Like it's very much like, I don't know, the whole vibe of Jesus and stuff, in Christ, it's Catholic, whatever. It's like, it's just, no one really holds you to that. You know, the Pope been Catholic, right?
Starting point is 00:46:41 We've been Catholic forever. Jesus was 2,000 years ago, we done a lot of shit since then. Not a lot of people get held accountable in power, right? It's just kind of, no, the Pope didn't like, you know, sort of war over the Iraq war. You go, well, we, you know, this is Iraq war is very bad. Where are the weapons?
Starting point is 00:47:05 If we, if, you know, if Bush doesn't show us these weapons, we're going to have to invade, you know, America. No one's doing shit. I mean, is Trump going to invade the Vatican, by the way? Is that a problem? I mean, you're actually, I'm crazy, but I mean, he did Venezuela. You just went in and took the guy, right? I'm not saying Medea's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I'm just saying, but it's like pretty unprecedented to go and just grab a guy, his wife, kidnapped. He doesn't have kidnapped him, I guess, replace him, whatever. I mean, coups are coups. Like, you know, they see how he usually does this. Just overtly. And then, you know, Iran, you know, he doesn't care that, you know, he doesn't care that people, people keep saying that, you know, this war makes no sense for America or Iran, that
Starting point is 00:47:55 we're doing just because of Israel, that he's being dogwalked by Netanyahu. People are saying he doesn't care, right? And he's going to do Cuba. That looks crazy, right? So, like, don't tell me it's crazy that he would, you know, send I don't know what he'd send the 80 second airborne a detachment you know or platoon what what a regiment of Rangers and Delta Force like Black Hawk down right I mean the Vatican's bigger than that what they're trying to take in Black Hawk down but I don't
Starting point is 00:48:28 know what you would call like a like Black Hawk down times five or ten whatever force size wise you would need to take the Pentagon because they have these Swiss guards I don't I've heard they're actually pretty good these Swiss guards actually. Now I don't think they have the experience of like seasoned Army Rangers Special Forces Delta
Starting point is 00:48:51 you know Navy SEALs. I don't know if it could close to any water. I don't know that matters. I think there's a lot of water in a Badaabad and Navy Seals did that right? I can be I mean I'm an idiot with that. I'm not a military guy but is it like I don't know how they would do this but I mean look
Starting point is 00:49:08 I guess it's possible that, you know, I would, a lot of people wouldn't have thought that the Iran war would still be going on now. And I think I don't ever pretend to be a military expert. And you got, you know, and I do think for a long war, who knows? But the idea of like, well, is this, is Iran someone we could just kind of like send a force in and quickly just like, yeah, the way we're used to just immediately shut it down? No, like they're not. And so in that's is the Vatican also that? Because here's the thing,
Starting point is 00:49:42 if we invade the Vatican, if we invade the Vatican and we don't, and we don't end it that night, it's got to be like Venezuela. We can't be my, we can't have a quagmire in the Vatican because that's going to be terrible.
Starting point is 00:49:57 The world will turn on us. If we swiftly went in and replaced the Pope with a friend, like a more friendly pope, I mean, this is an American Pope. Maybe that's part of the problem. Maybe we need an Israeli pope.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You know, that's going to be on board with all this stuff. I don't know. But, you know, we install a friendly pope, like, within a day. Minimal loss of life. That's key. We can't go, we can't be shooting cardinals and nuns. That's terror. Like, it's very, people forget that the military is about optics.
Starting point is 00:50:36 so if we're going to invade the Vatican and install a new Pope an Israeli Pope, it's got to be clean you know he's got we have a trial for the current Pope you know Trump's got to have charges for him I guess I don't want this as a Catholic I think this is terrible but I mean
Starting point is 00:50:56 objectively speaking is a way to do it and it's not and what we don't want as you know the Catholic I maybe as a Catholic I would say that part of me even though I'm loyal to America. I'm always loyal to America. And you better say, you better not say you're not
Starting point is 00:51:11 because you'll get put in jail. Right? We all, you know, we're on the same page. Don't, don't, don't let you, don't let being Catholic
Starting point is 00:51:20 get in their way, you know, get to your head. Because they'll, they'll, give you the Snowden treatment. Now, the Catholics always,
Starting point is 00:51:29 this is the thing. The Catholics, though, growing up, they're always like, will you deny Christ and all this stuff? Who's making me to deny Christ? It always seems to,
Starting point is 00:51:36 crazy like we're talking about who would make me deny this it's like no one's that no it's like now we're now we're there now we might be there because you have to choose between don't trump and the pope choose why you know but that's the thing if if it goes on for like weeks and the months and we can't get it done maybe maybe because we're depleted you'll have these retrospective sometimes you know about military things they go well it's a perfect storm we know We were depleted from Venezuela and then Iran and then this and then that. Normally, the United States would be able to conquer the Vatican easily and stole their pope, but not this time.
Starting point is 00:52:18 This time, and it's our Vietnam. But the call it our Vietnam is, another Vietnam is so crazy. It's a Catholic church. Because then you have a biblical element to it. And then we really look like we're like the nasty, the nasty devils, right? The nasty people who try to conquer the Vatican. and we're pushed back by God and Christ. Trump's got real, he better, he better to escalate this.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You know, the Hormoos thing? Who else is going to whomews? I don't know what's going to. They were saying there's going to be peace negotiations, and now there's, now we've attacked the ship, we shot the engine out, we're in possession of the ship. We fired a missile of the engine room. and so, you know, I don't, you know, it seems like we want this ward end and we want, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:10 and we're not trying to like, you know, get it to the next level. But, you know, it's vacillating back and forth. It's very dangerous time. We don't need to take a ride off. Like, Iran, they're playing a game of chess here, right? They're not, like, they're being, they're risking, you know, Trump is trying to demonstrate, hey, I'm crazy. I don't know what I'll do.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And they're like, do it, do it. And they're like, we're wrong. I will see how it plays out, right? It's a game of chicken almost. But it would be the worst time in the world to think that we could attack the Vatican. Easily. Because if we, that will just, can you imagine if, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:54 we sent that, that plane go down with the pilot and there was a rescue operation. apparently by all accounts it was very complicated we lost a lot of planes we had to destroy a lot of planes to get this guy they landed
Starting point is 00:54:10 there were hundreds of miles away some people say it was actually an operation failed operations to retrieve uranium or whatever petroleum from Iran and then we used that as a cover I don't know
Starting point is 00:54:24 imagine that in the Vatican nightmare goddamn nightmares we destroyed a 16th chapel I mean even like forget Catholics art lovers will be very bad I don't think most people you know I mean
Starting point is 00:54:41 that survived World War II World War I no one's bombing the Vatican right if we bomb Nevada we're we're we're we're we're just getting into a world of like villainy whether we're even if Trump's right even if Pope Leo is soft on crime it's the wrong one
Starting point is 00:54:58 move um you know you got a lot of layoffs coming a lot of people getting laid off they might just go like screw it maybe the vacancy who knows what's in the vatican vault by the way you got you got tech i mean this is what could happen you think you think you're so hot all of a sudden the tech these uh the vaticans like we got a ton we got an infinite money basically we got crypto we imagine the vatician owns bitcoins tons of of them who knows what's in the vatican bank and they're and they're willing to buy mercenary the everyone got laid up they know these aren't the prime soldiers right to tech people but you know there's a lot of people get this place because of AI and the Vatican sucks them up into their
Starting point is 00:55:45 army they're not even catholic but you know sometimes you got you got to do what you got to do I am just saying we we this is not a time for these you know for for for foolhardy you know misadventures tighten up tighten up you don't want you don't want this god will it look bad if he nukes the Vatican god that looks so bad you imagine like the the because they'll be video I think they always have video Vatican right but you know it's not even like you have to set this up like we go how did we get video of 9-11 like you know all this crew was shooting this documentary what why was it was it seems suspicious right like you better explain it that's you know separate issue i'm saying like you know why there'll
Starting point is 00:56:42 always be people shooting the vatican i feel like nowadays just always like it's probably like a vatican camera website you know oh this is st pyr's basilica and so you There'll be footage of that just getting new, your mushroom cloud. And it'll haunt America forever. You don't want that. This is insane. I don't think you'll happen.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I think Trump, I think Trump and the Pope will, you know, he's easy, he wrote, he had that guy right the yard of the deal. He put his name on it. I don't, that would, you know, he's not gonna, he might, he might do.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I mean, look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, he's, he's lost a little bit of credibility as far as they're not doing stuff thing. I implore him not to don't bomb the Vatican please remember the like and subscribe
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