Kump - Ep. 256 AMERICA IS PIVOTING

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

https://www.patreon.com/raykump Support the show + get bonus episodes every week.Ray talks about Peter Thiel relocating his family to Argentina, the Freedom 250 concert pivoting to an “America Is Ba...ck” rally, the Kennedy Center fight, a proposed $250 Trump bill, Nancy Mace on property taxes for senior homeowners, Mike Pence criticizing Trump, the Iran deal that always seems three days away, Pam Bondi’s Epstein files testimony, Palantir, AI war, and billionaire escape plans.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Peter Thiel is relocating his family to Argentina because he's concerned about the future of the United States. And if the United States doesn't put him in jail, then we're not even a country anymore. What's he guilty of? Maybe nothing. But probably everything. America has imprisoned countless men for far less, including the Unabomber. President Trump responded to artists dropping out of the Freedom 250 concert because there was two, political by stating that it's just be a giant America's back rally hosted by himself
Starting point is 00:00:36 because he's a bigger draw than Elvis and if we behave he might just execute the members of Nickelback live on national television Mike Pence said that Trump has moved away from conservative values but that's only because Trump hasn't tried to have him hanged lately and on the war front we're gonna be perpetually three days away from a deal to open up the Strait of Hormoos for the rest of our natural lives. Everyone's looking for a back door to slink out of. Nancy Mace says senior citizen homeowners should not have to pay property tax. Let's cut this shit.
Starting point is 00:01:14 We're talking about boomers. So the generation that burned the world down to inflate their home values and ensure you can never afford one, now wants a tax break on those same homes, while still expecting the police state, to put you in prison if you set foot on their lawns. Pam Bondi, most famous for calling any congressman who asked about Epstein, a lying cuck, is now saying she had little practical oversight over the Epstein files release. And all that took was getting fired by the president and allegedly being given cancer by the CIA, or maybe it was the Commerce Department.
Starting point is 00:01:52 The new social contract is a cyanide pill. The new constitution is a commemorative plate. America is back. Back against the wall. Welcome to Kump. Peter Thiel is decamping to the end of the world. The billionaire's new roots in Argentina are said to be partly motivated by concerns about the future of the United States and shared beliefs with Argentina's right-wing leader.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Which is very interesting. I don't know much about current Argentina. Wasn't Argentina in the country where the Nazis fled to? That's probably a coincidence. I guess. Maybe Peter Thiel, and I'm just, you know, shooting from the hip here, maybe Peter Thiel is one of Hitler's lost boys. That would explain a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I don't know, I never saw the movie. You know, were they clones? You know, the guy does seem like a clone, a bit of a clone. For those not familiar, Peter Thiel is a CEO of Palantir and one of our prominent tech overlords. They recently basically put a manifesto out into the world. amongst other things saying you should be drafted. That's a tech company saying that. To the best of mind, now, if you look up what they do,
Starting point is 00:03:03 they make AI databases of some sort. You know, you could also argue AI kill lists. I mean, maybe indirectly, maybe directly, depends on the country. So, you know, these guys, when they're concerned about the state of America, it doesn't bode well. You know, it's one thing if the guy who owns Greenpeace,
Starting point is 00:03:24 whoever that is, you know hey i just see i'm maybe it is but whatever the guy who owns ben jerry's is it's concerned about america you can say shut up you know don't worry but when the guy who's basically uh creating sky net uh you know is saying that it might be a little dicey for his family and you know is in anywhere in the lower 48 states yeah you might you might want to start checking what your exit strategy is. The Saturday tournament at the Buenos Aires chess club
Starting point is 00:03:57 hosted its usual lineup of players in college students, but this time hunched over the club's tiny wooden tables was Peter Thiel, the right-wing tech billionaire. Mr. Teal, who according to one participant, did not play badly and came in third, had recently decamped from his homes in Los Angeles and Miami
Starting point is 00:04:14 to establish a... I mean, what is he doing? He's going to chess tournaments and, like, basically, shouldn't he be, like, you know, deploying drones into Luxembourg or something? Mr. Teal has a history of collecting backup countries as he hedges his bets is considering making Argentina another plan B. It's just, look, I mean, what does this mean? It means nothing and it means everything. If you thought that the people who, you know, really run this government and run this country
Starting point is 00:04:47 don't have already, you know, states where they can flee to, and my states, I mean, like, you know, small countries that they basically run the government of, then you'll be naive. It's a very interesting, you know, does this, does Palantir sit at the, at the, at the crossroads of intelligence and, uh, the military industrial complex? People argue that they're basically going to be the new Pentagon in 10 years, that the whole idea of tanks and guns and whatnot are kind of outdated. And we're seeing that in the wars that were being fought now, you know, whether it's the drones in Iran, the asymmetric stuff going on there.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You know, basically, you can't, you, they're loot. I mean, things are constantly evolving. But you had drones that cost, you know, really 30 grand, knocking down missiles that were worth like, what, 10 million, a pop? it's just i mean in uh in in the ukraine war you know these drones they're just hunting people down with these drones these are and you can train all you want you can be you know navy delta seal team 500 whatever the hell you can't outrun uh you know one of these uh giant uh you know they're tiny little like you know remote helicopters it's like the movie toys it's probably
Starting point is 00:06:09 obscure reference but it's basically you know it's just it's a tiny little missile coming at you And that's kind of, you know, and like, the whole, like, conception of war that we have is shifting. And they're on top of it. So you would think, if I mean, I know, I can't get much going on. I don't have a house. I don't have a pool. I'm sitting there going, this country doesn't seem like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:32 there's a lot of options here. But that makes sense for me. When you run the next gen Pentagon, I would think that you could find a few places, you know, maybe, maybe somewhere in mind. Tanner where you could park your family. That is what is coming next? Because, you know, there's always, that's the, that's a scary thing.
Starting point is 00:06:53 There's prominent schools. There's prominent, I mean, some people think that, you know, or they're expecting backlash if the Democrat, I don't think, I mean, that's the thing. We don't really seem to have a lot of backlash in this country. You know, corporations get their way from one administration and the next one comes in and maybe, maybe you can't merge these two streaming companies or, you know, But no one's going to put, no one's going to grab your kids, right? That's not what you can't be afraid of that.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's something more onomous. It's something more creepy. This is Trump's tweet. I understand artists are getting the yips having to do with their performance on Wednesday. So I'm thinking about bringing the number one attraction anywhere in the world. Should I do the voice? I understand artists are getting out of yips having to do with their performance on Wednesday. So I'm thinking about bringing the number one attraction anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 00:07:44 The man who gets a much larger audience in Elvis and his prime. He doesn't even need a guitar. I mean, this is not my best Trump. The man who loves our country more than anyone else, the man, I mean, this is just the ravings of a patriotic madman. The goat Donald Trump to take the place of these highly paid third-rate artists. I mean, they were somewhat third-rate. I mean, Brett Michaels, which I guess was he was in poison. I think he was on the apprentice back in the day.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And, you know, half of Millie Vanilli. And no, Vanilla Ice was involved, Flo Rider. I don't know much of Flowrider's catalog. But, you know, I think he's a little bit, you know, this wasn't exactly Lollapalooza or OzFest. And those don't, what are the big, it's not exactly Coachella, right? But I guess people started to probably,
Starting point is 00:08:38 what probably happened is people started to get backlash from this. A lot of them came out and said, we were told it wasn't going to be a political thing. It was a thing to celebrate the, this Freedom 250 is supposed to be for the, you know, the bicentennial and a half. Is that what you call it? The half centennial,
Starting point is 00:08:56 the 250 years of America, if we make it that long. It was supposed to, it's a whole big thing on a national mall in D.C. It's going to take place between June and July, you know, spanning the 4th July. And the idea, people are saying, well, we were told it wouldn't be political.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And look, I'm sympathetic to the idea. You know, a lot of times these things do seem to, but it's very possible that they just got backlash. I'll give that, you know, benefit of the doubt to Trump. That maybe he didn't even like, you know, there wasn't even that much of, you know, like it wasn't going to be branded. He wasn't going to be a giant statue of him on the stage with them. There wasn't going to be a hologram of Trump performing with Millie Vanili. That maybe there was.
Starting point is 00:09:40 but you know people just probably got a lot of flack like what are you doing on the Trump 250 thing and that's an argument you could have made before you came out and said why am we just making a giant rally this is another rally this concert is supposed to like span like seven days or something so
Starting point is 00:09:57 it's a wild thing to it's a wild I mean I wouldn't mind what would be interesting is if can Trump filibuster the concert
Starting point is 00:10:09 that would actually be kind of an amazing feat if he could just come out and go and just like I'm going to keep it alive like he's like some 80s movie where he's trying to like keep the dance contest going so we can you know we can keep the so the grandma keep the house or whatever the plot is right it's something where he's like I'm I'm gonna stay
Starting point is 00:10:31 it's some episode of the West Wing the stack house filibuster when he's like my son has you know stage five Hodgkins leukemia and I need a, you know, filibuster for like, you know, 15 hours to keep his, you know, so we can fund his cure or whatever, or shit. You know, back when that was back when, you know, we had a sentimental idea of government. If he did that in concert form, and maybe he would just kind of do his little, you know, we start out, he would kind of just be kind of, yeah, yeah, he'd do his rally his speech.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And then after a while, he was like, you know, he has that YMCA thing he likes to do. He was like, the music would come on. and he'd be kind of just doing his little kind of dance, which I respect. You know, he's like a little kind of like shaking dance. Like, and then it was kind of, it would be kind of endearing for the moment. And then, you know, but it would have to give way and he'd have to go, bring me a guitar. And like, you know, they would have to have like a someone playing backstage that would like try to, you know, basically make it seem like he's playing. I mean, maybe he can play.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I've never seen him with a guitar. I imagine they'll have to have someone, is it still not lip syncing, but guitar sinking and lip syncing. or he'll sing. You keep his voice and he'll just be, you know, he'll start off American songs, like, you know, born in the USA.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Like, he'll have like a telepromp. It'll be like karaoke with Trump and he'll be singing born in the USA. Even, you know, I get it. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:52 that's actually not a very patriotic song. Whatever. He's, you know, born down and born down in the dead. I can't sing in Trump's voice. Born down in a dead man's town. Is that? What is that?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Um, and then you can evolve from there, right? And eventually he's going to take his shirt off. He's going to become like Burke Kreischer. He's going to start screaming. He's going to get dehydrated. This is like, if he could pull this off, I'll vote for him for the next, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I mean, I don't know that we have much of a functional democracy left. You know, well, Trump's a stretch of democracy. Yeah, I mean, at this point, what is, you know, and I'm not excusing him of the blame. But, you know, it doesn't, it's a certain point you have to go, well, it's gone. You know, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like when you have a home. invasion and your wife gets tied up and they take her away and you know but I have to
Starting point is 00:12:43 keep fighting there's nothing to fight for so you get and you go you're giving up I'm not giving up I'm just saying I would like it if he's just up there he turns into a maniac like a performer right like you know these people on Twitter or X or whatever
Starting point is 00:12:59 are going like you know oh you should have like young people of like you know conservative singers make it like American Idol no, let it be about Trump. Let it, you know, he's given us a gift to a certain extent. We're dying. Let us wear the death mask that is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But let us ride him into the ground with this concert. Because we, you know, Peter, even Peter Thiel can't fix it anymore. That's, you know, if Peter Thiel is like, well, I think this is a little, things are a little dicey here. Then I just let him have a heart attack on stage and then we can honor him bigger than Elvis. He certainly is. I mean, I only, does anyone even remember Elvis? Anyway, let's, you know, if you, if you allow me to take an aside, you may not remember Elvis, but you do remember Kump. And, you know, we have a wonderful Kump Patreon is available for you.
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Starting point is 00:14:30 they're also available on members-only content. So, you know, there's that. So enjoy it on either way. Trump urges canceling Freedom 250 concert. So at least five musicians have dropped out. Some of these artists have not been aware that the event has been part of an initiative planned by Trump administration for the nation's birthday. I mean, again, they can say that.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I think it's more, you know, it's all very, you know, and this comes on the heels, I guess, of another story. Trump says no interest in Kennedy, Senator, overhaul after judge orders his name removed. So, I mean, it's a real interesting cult of personality we have here with Trump. It's a real interesting, because usually there's no, like, pretense of nobility. And I'm not taking a shot. Nobility holds you back.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Nobility is what the, ironically, the noble class uses against you. It's what, you know, it's what your parents is what the, the land of the gentry, the, the tech overlords like Peter Thiel, they try to hold you to a standard of nobility and then they, and then while they're, while they're rifling through your pockets. So Trump is, you know, basically a judge said you can't,
Starting point is 00:15:45 you know, he had, let's a little, let's take a look at this, you know, President Trump said he has no interest in continuing his overhaul of the Kennedy Center after a federal judge ruled he can't rename the Washington, D.C., performing arts center or closed his doors for lengthy renovations unless Congress approves the plans.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Now you might think that sounds reasonable. Maybe you're a criminal. In social media post Friday, Trump said that he wants to turn decision-making about the future of the center over the Congress. So basically he doesn't want to be involved if he could have his name on it and he can't do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Unless I'm free to do what I would do better than anyone else, bring this institution back physically, financially, and artistically, I have no interest in continuing what could only be a hopeless journey into Never, Neverland. I mean, it's a never, never, I mean, is that even a, I don't, I'm not that familiar anymore. I, the Peter Pan, with pirates. I thought that was, you know, am I wrong? Am I wrong to question the analogy?
Starting point is 00:16:46 I guess I am. Therefore, based on the fact that the radical left Democrats care more about opposing your favorite president than a dying performing art center. I mean, isn't this where you had just, you know, you basically, you had, you went into a Beethoven, you went and. you saw someone do a show a shopper i don't think those people need gilded you know uh banisters right it's where you go see lob bo m i thought like it's just it's just a place where you would go go see an orchestra um it would be nice if it had like a pool so you know people could sit in the
Starting point is 00:17:18 pool and watch uh you know again mozart don giovanni while you're you know while you're you know, while you're shit in a pool, that could be a lot of fun. I mean, I'm enjoying his kind of direct, well, if you can't, you know, I'll just take a fuck you then. You know, if you're not going to let me name it, if you're not going to let me close it down, then I'm not even going to be involved. It's kind of like a hitsy fit. It's kind of like a, but it is kind of a, he doesn't really, he knows that this thing is falling apart. and all that's going to matter are monuments.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And, like, you know, you, what are you going to enrich your family? What are you going to enrich your, you know, as kids? Like, you know, I mean, there's plenty of that going around. You know, there seems to be a lot of enrichment going. But, you know, more, but what really takes the test of time is giant statues. That's what you're going to remember when, like, the mole people rise up from the caverns or whatever. You know, when there's open warfare in the desert and who's fighting? I mean, I don't mean like the Middle East Desert.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I mean like the Mojave by California. Who's fighting each other? I don't know. Factions. Is it a zombie thing? Unclear. I mean, people are, their skin is rotting, but that just seems to be from crocodile. I don't think they're dead, you know, they're not the undead.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They're just crocodile addicts who are fighting, you know, defendants. for purview over these desert lands, which if you've ever been out there or flown over them, there seems to be enough to go around. And you go, we're kind of why, why do they fight over it? Because all we have left is the fight. All we have left is the chaos. All we have left is anger and hate and spite, right?
Starting point is 00:19:12 I mean, what are you going to do? You're going to have a family? You're going to move to, where can you afford to do that? North Dakota? You can be one of those people from Fargo? I might do that. I might go to Fargo. Because it's the only place I can afford to live, like, a person and raise a family.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I'll be like one of those people when they come to murder us. I'd be like, oh boy. Yeah, you betcha. Yeah, I saw the prostit murdered. But, God, some scientific study, some Harvard research grant should be funded. So I just analyze whatever traumatic brain injury I have. I think that's what accents and impressions are. I'm like a squad.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I mean, look, I have my strengths, but it's a, that is not a North Dakota accent. Therefore, based on the radical of Democrats, it's very interesting. Trump announced in December that the Kennedy Center's board of trustees, which the president himself now chairs and filled with his hand-picked appointees, had voted unanimously to rename the building.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I mean, look, you need every, you need a strong man sometimes. You need a Politburo. If we're not going to let him, like, rename the Kennedy Center, he's going to rename your kids. And that's going to be, you know, you're going to need to come to terms where Trump's going to get his to a certain extent.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I know you all just fancy of, like, we're going to vote them out, and we're going to vote the debt for Republicans out. We're going to get the midterms, and we're going to do another, we're going to impeach him again. And look, okay. And, you know, do you going to take the Senate?
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm not an expert in this stuff. but I mean, like, you know, I do envision a very likely scenario where, like, they don't necessarily take the Senate and they just impeach him again. And he decides, screw it. I'm kidnapping. I mean, you know, yeah, like your kids put him in the army. I'm going to make him as a labor force. You know, play.
Starting point is 00:21:08 You got to play the cards you're dealt. You've worked your entire life. Scheming, lying, fucking people over. Just to give yourself a better life. You've earned it. But your children didn't. And let's be honest, the thought of handing over one cent to those ungrateful brats who refuse to show you the proper respect and accommodate your borderline personality disorder
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Starting point is 00:22:34 heart of darkness treasury secretary Bennett confirmed limited steps towards a $250 bill featuring uh Donald Trump this is actually I mean look I don't mind any of this. I think this is great. Treasury Secretary says Thursday's department is prepared to design for a $250 bill.
Starting point is 00:22:55 They just need to, they basically need to get approved, because Congress says you can't do it unless you're dead. You can't get a dollar bill placed on you, which I think is unfair. I think every, I think they should just rebrand the money every time we have a new president. The secretary downplayed the idea the administration is pushing the matter, despite Trump. pension for infusing his name and likeness of course nation's capital. Look, there is a pattern. No one could deny there's a pattern of like, you know, ego and, and cult of personality. You'd be a fool to not, you know, notice these things.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But, you know, it's like, why not have a little bit of, you know, we should just like, the president should just be a king. And I don't mean it with more power, but call him a king. Give him, because kings have like a certain responsibility to the realm. I mean, they don't necessarily adhere to that. But that's the thing. You know, give, let people, let the president, let the king own a certain amount of franchises, right? What if, like, you become the king of America?
Starting point is 00:24:02 And still, it's still term limited king. It's, you get one 10-year run as king. That's my new thing. You get rid of these four-year terms. It's very hard to do anything good in four years. And you can argue that, you know, well, it's hard to do anything bad. you know, it kind of limits that. Well, yeah, sure, but they've managed.
Starting point is 00:24:22 You know, they manage it on the other end. The people who want to do bad things know how to make that work. But, you know, if you wanted to get some guy to kind of, like, me, for instance, to come in and just fix the, you know, give people health care. Well, how am I going to do that in four years? Not how I'm going to do it in 10? Because I will seize the Taco Bells. I will seize all the things that are great.
Starting point is 00:24:51 The pizza huts, I will seize, you can argue, you know, and I'll take them and I'll fund a giant, you basically put a tax, you put the tax. You know, you allow, much like these bro, like we're Nancy Mace is out there, right? And she's out there fucking saying that, you know, these people, these boomers, these senior homeowners, should be allowed to, you know, not pay taxes.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Which is ridiculous. You know, you could argue, well, my boomer parents are nice. And they didn't, they didn't, you know, help invade Iraq. They didn't destabilize Syria. Yes, they did. They all did. Regardless, you know, it's not, like, we can solve this by just, you know, not inflating everything constantly, not jukeying.
Starting point is 00:25:46 up the asset value. I mean, it's not like we don't live, you know, we're living in a situation where the president has literally said, I want to, I know the people want me to lower the prices of homes, but that, though, the home price is being so high or the source of wealth for so many people. And the part maybe left little unsaid was the people who support him mostly, a big portion of them, might, you know, and so I want to make sure, at the expense of young people, being able to afford a home. I want to
Starting point is 00:26:17 keep these inflated. We're not talking about like you should be able to just do nothing with your life. You should be able to, you know, I want to be a, I want to smoke meth and make Piss Christ you know, re-reations. You know, I mentioned them recently again, but this
Starting point is 00:26:34 that was a very controversial art piece. It was a guy who got funded by New York City, I think. Or maybe it was the NAA to make art. And he just basically made a bucket of piss and he put a crucifix in it. And he goes, you know, that guy shouldn't be able to go, you know, if he does that for 10 years and sells his like buckets of piss with the crucifix. You know, again, I think that guy did the one-off thing because he's thinking about art.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You got a sidebar. The thing about the art world, they're very savvy. The people who know do that stuff, it's very, you know, if you're triggered the way I would be triggered to go, no wait wait but that's not real art you should have to like work and like learn to draw and learn to paint real well and mix pallets and all this shit that's not even the fucking point the people who make money at art know the scam arts a big money-longering scam and like just whatever like people it's all a bunch of it's all based on you know Thomas Kincaid makes wonderful art I mean I think he's dead but he made those wonderful uh landscape paintings you were finding them all and no one's
Starting point is 00:27:41 gonna let you know and let maybe maybe some of the originals but a lot of these fucking thomas king kate pieces are not part of the art world because no one decided it was it is much much more more fake than uh they'll let on and so you know those people are savvy so the guy who made piss crisis my point is not like he wasn't trying to sell buckets of it you know he's like he's just moving on to another yeah there's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who makes the sharks he just covers sharks and some kind of weird polyurethane or something and like they pay give him tens of millions of dollars that's so you know whatever the point is but just so if i'm just a scammer or i'm a guy who does taylor swift bootlegs right bootlegs t-shirts outside of the barclay center
Starting point is 00:28:25 and i'm selling fucking you know taylor swift upskirt t-shirts or something i shouldn't be able to turn around at 35 is my point or 40 and go you know i i haven't really invested and i haven't done the right thing but i should be able to own a home no one's saying that that you know but a guy who like gets it goes to college works hard and you know studies you know and doesn't doesn't get a bullshit degree i mean again no and don't don't play that fucking game of like well i did it some people do it there's not it shouldn't be like a situation where you like you know you have to um no one should have to cross their fingers if they've done the right thing you know there's a there is a i think i think i think i
Starting point is 00:29:10 anyone who's trying to get a new apartment lately, who's trying to get at home, they're, they're clamping down. The financial industry, whatever you want to call it, is clamping down. They want much more documentation. They want much more invasive knowledge of you. They're, they don't, they don't, they're questioning. They want, you know, they want, like, more detailed info on your employers. They're trying to pry into your life. They want to go back years. It's, it's very odd. You can have, you got plenty of money. You make plenty of money over what they're asking for, it's not being a, it's no, it's not just about money anymore. Being a, a landlord is about leverage. And it's about using that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you know, are you going to be less likely to talk shit, um, based, you know, because you're, you're worried about, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:03 getting approved for, you know, in a co-op, right? Because a lot of these, you know, a lot of places in New York State, for instance, like, you know, a lot of places, is, you know, you know, co-op is, you know, you know, you know, Co-ops get talked about like they're these like, you know, for rich people, right? They're just these rich people's enclaves. But like most built, a lot, I think most of the buildings are co-op where like, it's like there's this board that you have to approve. And it's like supposedly it's the people who live there,
Starting point is 00:30:23 but it's like, what is that? You know, it's like it's, they wield this weird, uh, weapon against you. And they want, and they want to get you to conform. And that's, and that's what they're going to do. It's, it's about social engineering. and that's why they're not going to make any better. That's why they're going to squeeze you indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And it's why you have nowhere to go. It's not going to be, you know, if you could just say it while, just get a fucking place to go move upstate. You know, no, the rich people are already doing that now. Like, you know, go, go work. I mean, yeah, you can, there are places, you know, next to a fucking burned out building that used to be an animal horse hospital where you could maybe get a,
Starting point is 00:31:08 trailer home. And look, if you, I'm not being a doom squal or you can find, but this should be a thing where you can, it should be easier. It should be more fluid. People should feel good about the prospects of the country.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Peter Thiel should feel safe. It's what I'm trying to say. Peter Thiel should not feel like his kids are in danger, just because he created the dark future. You know, it's, we used to, You know, maybe people in America used to be guilty of like looking down on these countries, right, like Argentina and thinking there was, you know, we used to treat these countries like there were a plate thing.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And now, like, they actually, are they living better than us? Or is it just that a billionaire is moving there so he can control it? That might be also part of it. Mike Penn says the Trump administration has departed from conservative principles. I mean, this guy, they hung on. Like, they brought news to the white, to the Congress, right? I mean, look, this is, don't forget, Mike Pence was the vice president. You like him, he may hate him.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He was the guy when he was still the governor of, where was he, I forget, wherever he was from, Missouri, who knows, that he, you know, you have to pay for, if you get an abortion, you have to, like, pay for a coffin or something. Very odd. Whether you agree with abortion, it's very odd level of, odd interests for the government. You know, buy a baby coffin. Like, what, you know, can we get like, can we, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:44 can we get something going? And it's kind of, can we get the factories back? And then maybe build a, are these baby coffins even built in America? That's what I would have asked them. But I didn't get a chance to interview him. And so he was able to just go off on how the Trump administration, the Trump administration has departed from conservative principles. What's his point here?
Starting point is 00:33:07 He says, he told meet the press that the administration is no longer committed. The agenda that defined the Republican Party since the days of Ronald Reagan. And before that, an American agenda of American leadership, limited government, free market economics,
Starting point is 00:33:22 the right to life. It's a bullshit. I mean, I'm not even saying, you know, I'm not against being Republican, but like, the idea of any of that was like Reagan's thing. I was like, let me, I mean, come on. Free market economics.
Starting point is 00:33:33 He added that on a number of those issues the president's been good I think we look I think what we could by the way I can hear people get mad some people get mad well you got problem of Reagan of course you're limited to go the default position just like it really should just be they're all full of shit and that sounds cliche but we've gotten away from that that's the worst part of his whole era right the Trump and the Biden and the Harris and this it's like you know your default position should just be like a very kind of like basic bitch basic bitch cynicism of like they're all crooks you know they're all
Starting point is 00:34:08 just crooks like dad cynicism of just like they're all just got their hand in your wallet we've gotten away from that there's no good guys Reagan wasn't a good guy Reagan how you know he he he's been good speeches he had some great uh charisma um but you know like just stop stop with the fucking the team uh because the only team you have is the burnbag team. It's the only team you have is the podcast you listen to. That's all you have. It's barely a country.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Maybe one day we'll have a country again. But you really need to just focus on the community of your podcast. That's all. You have more in common with that at least. At least you know you laugh at the same things or you hate the same things. Right? Like, you know, because this country, being divided constantly, whether it's by people
Starting point is 00:35:04 trying to, you know, tell you can't be a Christian or can't be a Muslim or can't be, you know, can't poison the water. You can't, you can't build a factory, you know, on, on, this is Native American land or some, whatever shit. It's all divisive. It's the people trying to divide you. And so you set to focus on, you know, just core podcast values.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Penn said he understands the GOP primary voters want to support Trump. Oh, I mean, imagine, I mean, this guy, they tried to hang him. I don't know how close they got. He didn't want, you know, to his credit, he didn't want to go along with Trump's interpretation of the Constitution on January 6th, which some people thought was, you know, bordering on a soft coup. I don't know what you call it. I mean, you give me a different, you know, I guess, I guess the other term is a different interpretation. but you know Pence didn't go along with it
Starting point is 00:36:04 and he tried to have you know regardless of what you feel about it all those people should have all been put in jail I don't know whatever I'm not I'm not involved but make them all the president for like care make everyone who was January
Starting point is 00:36:17 everyone in January 6 should be in Congress go for it enjoy it my point is this guy thought he was doing the right thing and they brought a noose and they wanted to hang him I don't think it was just a joke I mean, I think some people thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You know, there was a guy who was in like a Mr. Show and like arrested development. I don't know. And he got put in the, I think he went to jail, right, the actor. He might have thought it was a joke and a goof because he's a funny guy. Maybe not. I don't know. But I know I saw some people say we want we wanted to hang back pens. And he's doing the right thing, he thought.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And that's the thing. And I'm saying is like, why are you still talking about shit? Learn to shut your mouth, Mike Pence. No one wants to hear from you. I mean, this is the day. If you ever heard, like, a liberal, like, glazed Mike Pence? They still talk shit about him. This guy's got to learn.
Starting point is 00:37:11 He doesn't have the charm to be anything. Like, he should not be out there going, like, oh, Trump is, because they're not going to vote you in. And they're not going to, you got to learn that, like, just be after you. You should be trying to build a podcast. or maybe Penn should be like a like a prankster
Starting point is 00:37:33 you know like a like a jackass type guy he should get a crew of guys conservative jackass something like that but like this whole idea that you know just it's kind of embarrassing when they come and they bring a gallows they try to hang you and basically Trump tries to get you hung
Starting point is 00:37:51 in the middle in the middle of the capital like you still have to go I don't know if he's really conservative what that's not you're playing the wrong game here this is the game of like you know he should be out to go and fuck this punk I'll bring no he's not he'll get he'll get himself
Starting point is 00:38:07 killed probably if he tries to like you know talk a lot of shit he'll get himself really's got texture beaten you know he's a big guy maybe but my point is he should not be you know he's still trying to go with the whole principal thing ah you know uh
Starting point is 00:38:20 I don't think he's technically I don't think he he's got a noose around his neck he's going yeah I don't think Trump really embodies the legacy of Ronald Reagan. You know, I call me crazy. You know, I call me crazy. I was winged on the conservative values of Reagan.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Ed Muskie. No, he musty was a Democrat. Who am I thinking of? Evan Meese, his attorney general, right? And Oliver North. Trump, you know, it just learned, like, I don't think I could go out into the world. And, you know, the situations would not be attacked by, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:56 state apparatus that's why I played the game the way that I play it and that's, and don't get twisted, I played the game. I'm a political operator, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:06 I don't, I don't try to, you know, call people out. You gotta learn, things are tightening up, is my point. You know,
Starting point is 00:39:14 if Peter Thiel is watching his back and stashing his family, like Peter Thiel is like, you know, it's like in the wire when you had like, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:23 the Avon Barksdale crew were going against the, Marlow and like you know you're laying your head somewhere you know you different place every night because you know you don't want to get the jump on you because you get you get clipped that's that's the state
Starting point is 00:39:37 situation right you can't just be like Peter Thiel is like I'm not I can't be safe he's like he's put he's going to Baner Zaris he's putting his kids his wife in a villa and goes I can't do what I have to do if I have to worry about you
Starting point is 00:39:54 I can't drone strike hospitals and and and and you know give birth to the antichrist daddy i thought you were the antichrist no i'm just the i'm the guy i'm like a john the baptist of the antichrist that's why i talk about him so much people get it twisted i just i'm the guy who talks about the antichrist like john the baptist um perhaps so you know like you know i can't do that if i have to worry about, you know, my family being, I mean, I, I, I, I, I look, what do I know about South America or Central America, you know, like man on fire, that movie with Denzel Washington and Dakota fanning? That was Mexico. I, I'm not saying Argentines like that. I don't know, but like they
Starting point is 00:40:40 speak, they both speak Spanish, right? That's the, I'm not, you think I'm a worldly man, and then sometimes I am. I know enough to know they're not the same. Um, but no one kidnap people in Argentina, I guess not. It just seems like, you know, America still seems like it has pretty good, like, well, you go into Bel Air, right? If you drive in, you know, in Bel Air, there's guys like special forces. Like, I've never seen the dead-eyed stare of someone who was like, you know, would just kill you as if he was wringing a chicken's neck until you go to some of these rich places.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Their private security is exquisite. I've talked about it before. It's not a joke. Like, these people, and I have no, I get it. The world would make less sense if billionaires didn't hire the elite soldiers of the world to basically keep you at arm's length. It just wouldn't make sense of the way. You know, I'd like to live in a fantasy world, but I, my, my screwed up brain, I needed to make sense. And it makes sense that they were just, you know, well, look, we're sure you mean, well, you know, maybe, maybe you just sell, you're selling Girl Scout cookies.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He's not me. You know, maybe you're raising money for your little league. Your son's little league. Maybe that's the case. But we're not going to take our chances because we made a lot of enemies. Rich people know that life's not as fair. And to a certain extent, they make it less fair. But like, you know, they're not going to, the kind of mindset that makes you rich
Starting point is 00:42:10 doesn't make you care about that. So it's not with evil. It's not what they want. They're not telling their people, you know, like, shoot, shoot rate comp. You know, like with malice and we're just like who is this fat chaotic man's you know We're not going to let him threaten our life So I'm just saying uh but the idea that you would need to like go to a different country to protect your family It's very odd it's like what is what is actually going to be coming
Starting point is 00:42:42 Again it's the AI bubble situation now oh the bubble is actually great it's I mean look we're still living in a situation where we're not really paying for AI. I mean, some people are paying like real money, I guess companies. You know, you can pay 20 bucks a month. That's not really paying for it. That's all subsidized. I don't know any of it's really profitable.
Starting point is 00:43:03 There's, I mean, there are countless trillions of dollars at play. And it's not even a question of, is it real or not anymore? I mean, a live indication seems to say it's not as efficient as it should be in order to, so I think they realize this is really, this is pretty good at like,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you know, an AI kill list is great if you don't care if you get it wrong. I'll just say that. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. But an AI kill list really is not, you know, oh, it hallucinated and we kill a bunch of people who weren't on the list. Oh, all right. You know, the people who, I don't know if they really care that much. You know, this idea that, like, they're going to be very worried about collateral damage. it's more of like we need to we want to make sure you know the people in power in a general sense
Starting point is 00:43:53 want to stamp out a dissident thought they want to stamp out like you know just problem you know agitators and problem people people might be a problem to them uh it doesn't mean that they're like they won't like you know get rid of other people too like they're doing it to get rid of them but they have to blow up a city block to get to you yeah well they care so So that's the interesting thing about some of this stuff. So yeah, maybe the, you know, just because Palantir doesn't have a, you know, if they were accountable, if they, if they were making like, you know, if they made AI movies, instead of making AI kill lists. And like, their movie was like, you know, we made, we, we actually made the, the, the Mandalorian and Grogu effects with our AI. And like, you know, people said, well, and then the Grogu didn't look that good.
Starting point is 00:44:44 The baby Yoda. He didn't look that good in the movie. I'm not saying he did. I didn't see the movie. But, you know, let's just say, like, there's stakes there. There's actual stakes when you're making Baby Yoda with AI tools. If it goes wrong, people get real upset. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I mean, people don't seem to care about the movie that much. But maybe with the Avengers movie. You see my point, though. There's stakes here. There's no stakes when, like, we're going to make us a list, you know, use this information to make us a list of who to target with the drones. Okay. You know, or like, you know, you make a system that controls the drones, like, go after these, quote, quote, terrorists.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Okay. And, like, how did it go? Well, you know, it killed a terrorist. And, like, you know, 50% of, you know, and whatever, 500% more people with collateral damage. No one would care. I remember, you know, I'd have to repeat myself. It's like, there's no stakes in that case. Humanity has no stakes anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It gets the idea. this is the so this is the whole with Iran the emerging US Iran MOU said to reference possible $300 billion post-war investment fund to aid Tehran's
Starting point is 00:46:00 reconstruction the draft member so basically the two sources put to fund of $300 billion to draft this is about like I guess a deal with the whole straight-of-war moves in Iran which like you know I'm not like mad, but it does seem odd, right?
Starting point is 00:46:17 Because Trump got very mad that Obama did his nuclear deal, which I don't remember every detail of it, but they got some money. Basically, you know, if I remember correctly, Iran, there was embargoes of oil and whatnot, and the money was held. And as a concession in negotiation, they got a bunch of money released to them, which was their money? And your argument was like,
Starting point is 00:46:42 when they're going to, they use that money to find, terrorism and the fund these you know whoever like these different uh proxy states of theirs which you know um i guess they argue Hamas the proxy state right or you know true they varying degrees right has a law it's definitely was and then that was less so but still is and whatever we can't we we we we this i'm my my my fucking the mclaughlin report here i'm just saying uh and that was only like what 14 billion it wasn't it was not 300 billion dollars then you go when we bombed them they need to rebuild sure it seems odd to get very mad um if the idea also like the idea is that like if this is all done for nuclear armament shit i guess the the point is that
Starting point is 00:47:27 well they won't be able to get nuclear um like there will be provisions that they have to get rid of their uranium but with 300 billion you probably build like a special bunkers and do it I don't know. It just seems like a, it just seems, um, like maybe we bit off board and we could chew. Uh, and now we kind of,
Starting point is 00:47:49 you know, and look, this is the thing. You just keep it going. You just keep, you just delay. You delay, delay, delay. That really is the,
Starting point is 00:47:58 the moral of the day is that you just kind of, you just don't get bogged down. Um, if we've done this like a, a month and a half ago, they might have gotten mad, right? People might have been like, what the fuck? You know, like, I can't believe this. Now you're giving them $300 billion, and this is like relatively under the radar.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So I don't know. I mean, again, and speaking of that, you have to, you know, in a somewhat connected way, you have Bondi. You know, she's out there. She has cancer and, you know, bless her heart. I hope she's doing okay. Um, you know, she was, she seemed very nasty, uh, in some of these things. But doesn't mean she should have cancer. Um, and she, and she was, she thought she,
Starting point is 00:48:46 maybe she thought she was doing the right thing. Everyone, every, let's just assume everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. So Bondi, he was out there going like, you know, Saturday, you're a scumbag. You're a piece of shit. Stuff like that. Because they were like, you know, what's up with his Epstein shit? And he's referenced in the files and, you know, and if you don't think anything to do with human traffic, whatever, like this, whatever this wave of argument is, right? There's a lot of people out. there is Michael Tracy there's like as we're Coleman you was talking about it there's these guys who are like you know who's the other guy there's other people out
Starting point is 00:49:14 they've joined this kind of you know well Epstein was actually you know he was he didn't do anything wrong and a clearing Epstein's name well not he didn't do anything wrong but like nothing no business people were involved and ask yourself who like what's like if that were true why are you people talking about it you know like why is that your your your your your it's I mean we Are we pretending that's like, you know, just your, that's just like my intellectual curiosity says that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:43 the fact that there's this, like, still this kind of PR apparatus that keep telling you that, like, oh, no one is there, there's no bigger confirmation that many, many people,
Starting point is 00:49:54 um, that's not just Trump even, like, you know, in business, in tech. All the people we're thinking about were involved. There's no,
Starting point is 00:50:03 there's no, there's a better indication in the fact that there's like a bunch of, like, I don't know what you call them journalist influencers who are trying to get in on the action and set and tell you that it's all bullshit I mean I was kind of like
Starting point is 00:50:16 you know look I mean there's a lot of this stuff did get filtered through like conspiracy theory for years on both ends maybe they're skeptical you know maybe maybe without being told you go like you know look I mean this is definitely something most evil shit ever
Starting point is 00:50:30 but there's no better confirmation and the fact that people are still trying to like you know get this going If you actually didn't do it definitely you did everything then that's how it works there's no who's true if I if you did something wrong if I did something wrong who'd be out there clearing my name nobody right let's cut this shit so Bondi shifts responsibility for Epstein files released to Todd Blanche making him the next order so she's she got fired uh with it last month or whatever and now
Starting point is 00:51:00 let's see the request is going and today Garcia the cash pedal is number two. Bonnie was on Capitol Hill with the oversight panel Friday. Bonnie, who President Trump fired in April has faced torrent of criticism
Starting point is 00:51:15 of her botched redactions in the millions of pages that were made public during her tenure when Blanche was then serving as her deputy. Like, I don't know, can you ever just blame your deputy? Especially, like, it's one thing
Starting point is 00:51:28 if you're like, hey, like, if this was like, you know, two months ago, whatever three months ago and they're like hey zeppstein thing she's like who oh right the guy the hung himself uh yeah i don't know you know all right maybe he's like that's not you know it's not big case you know that's how maybe they strategically should have played it more it would have been hard because you know these are the people who were coming in basically acting like they were gonna like you know bring bring it the justice so it always makes it a bit hard but now but the coming and go yeah no like to
Starting point is 00:52:01 basically be calling everyone a moron and accusing people of cheating whatever I'm being hyperbolic but you're cheating on your wife or this is that it just seems wild that you would now claim my deputy was like this was all the people were talking about
Starting point is 00:52:17 for a while for weeks and like you know I guess what are you going to do give her more cancer you know like this is not much you can do you put her in jail I guess because you argue I'll be arguing that seems like criminal negligence to like not know if like if you did defer to him and you were pretending you didn't i mean that seems wrong but again there's no honor and there's no dignity there's no
Starting point is 00:52:41 there's no proper form you just kind of you know there's no one's holding you were a standard so you're better off just looking like an incompetent buffoon um you could just run your mouth you can just run your i mean that's what really we're proving and we'll see maybe they'll throw him in jail i doubt it but i think what we're proving is in america now you can run your mouth and not get slapped. I'm not getting, now again, don't get me,
Starting point is 00:53:04 or you're a slap women. I mean metaphorically, all right? I come from the streets. That, whatever, I, I ascribe to a certain
Starting point is 00:53:14 belief in the streets, at least, and the dignity of the streets. And I go, you know, look, you shouldn't just talk a lot of shit if you can't back it up.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Whatever, you know, is, you should, like, it doesn't mean you cower, but like, it's,
Starting point is 00:53:30 what I mean, What I'm trying to say is, like, it's not noble to run your mouth behind someone's back. And then, like, you know, and then kind of rely on, well, you can't hit me. That's the thing people hate. It's the, like, well, you can't hit me because I just said something. Like, shut up. Right. So the point is, that's what we're kind of building here.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We're building a rat culture and a culture where you just run your, man. That's not quite the same thing. Pan Bon, these aren't on the streets. These congressmen aren't trying to hit her. I get it. but it's kind of the same vibe where, you know, you at least used to have to kind of keep yourself grounded to reality when you were playing this political game, right?
Starting point is 00:54:11 Now you can just run your mouth now. It's kind of like the inception or the matrix, right? When you just kind of, when you learn like, you know, he's beginning to believe and like, you know, like I need guns. And I know kung fu or like an inception when you just imagine like a bumblebee and you're flying along a bumblebee, right? like it's almost a super power at first because you can just kind of like you know
Starting point is 00:54:34 other people like guys like Mike Pence are like you're not playing yeah being a conservative and like oh that hurts it hurts you know they're playing that game and you're just running wild but over time it just degrades it's a great the ground becomes unfirm I guess is what we're realizing is why Peter Thiel is fleeing America because they've played this game
Starting point is 00:54:54 they've they've infused the political landscape and the tech landscape and the cultural landscape with all this slop and its chaos. And they're starting to realize that the ground beneath their feet is no longer, it's giving way. And, you know, when everything's chaos,
Starting point is 00:55:13 there is no order. You know, it's hard to have order when everything's chaos. You know, you could create a world that you can control, but you don't want to live in it. But I guess you can just go to Argentina, as the point.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I mean, a lot of Nazis did that, right? I mean, a lot of them. The Israelis had like they went to Argentina and they got Eichmann, you know, the Mossad, right? And they brought them back and they hung them. Just saying, it was a big thing. A lot of people would go to Argentina.
Starting point is 00:55:42 That's a long time ago. You know, back then we had, you know, FDR and Truman and Eisenhower, different kind of presidents. So I'm sure, you know, they are supposedly right wing. I don't know the time about Argentina. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:55 it's a wild it's a wild I mean maybe this is a time for me to drive I'm not afraid of living in America that maybe it's because I'm stupid maybe it's because I'm uninformed I just don't go outside enough Peter Tio's like just you know
Starting point is 00:56:11 of course you what do you have to lose and I don't go hey that's mean that's mean spirited they won't be wrong I mean if I have something so loose but I don't have a grand duchy he's got to worry about people like strike you know other private armies you know Jeff Bezos's his army
Starting point is 00:56:29 you know he's probably making enemies amongst other AI companies. He's worried about like, you know, the guys from open, you know, Sam Altman funding some kind of paramilitary. Maybe Sam Altman, each repot, you know, Peter Thiel has a vibe.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I'm not, I'm not saying I'd be intimidated if I met him, but he doesn't have like a vibe of someone who's a serious kind of like, like, you know, he probably projects that. And again, you know, again, this is not like, am I even saying he's a fake tough guy? I'm not sure it pretends to be that. But he has a certain kind of weird, serious
Starting point is 00:57:00 gravitas. Now, like, Sam Altman doesn't have. And maybe he was like, you know, he treats Sam Altman kind of like a bug. Okay, shut out about, you know, he talks shit to him. He would call him over the middle of night and say, I'll burn your house down. You know, like the games that billionaires play. And but they're becoming, oh, that company's becoming very, very big. And, you know, Musk lost his lawsuit against AI, open AI.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I mean, technically because it's a statute of limitations, but whatever. Maybe that's why. Maybe it has something, these things that's, something to do with like behind the scenes, machinations of private armies. And maybe not. But yeah, but that's, that's, it's a dimension you should consider
Starting point is 00:57:40 when analyzing the chess board that is America. They're also saying they're bringing back pizza hub buffets. So there's another dimension to consider, right? There's all, there's a lot of pieces. That's another piece on the chess board. The, the, the new pizza hut buffets and these pizza huts there are like, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:58 made to be nostalgic. I'm very wary of anything you know there's a difference between you can I'm not the most nostalgic person anyway but there's a difference between the past being better and someone trying to sell you the past
Starting point is 00:58:14 beware the man who sells you the past because he's just selling a shitty pasta right I think I think that's a I think that's a great you know note to end on maybe beware beware the
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