Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #148 Abria Joseph and Aaron Alexander

Episode Date: March 24, 2020

Aaron Alexander and I sat down with Musician, Yogi and world traveler, Abria Joseph and he gave us a deep dive into music, hand pan playing and construction. He gave us an introduction  lesson and dr...opped an amazing guided meditation.   Help support the podcast by visiting our sponsors: Ancestralsupplements - Grass-Fed Colostrum  https://ancestralsupplements.com Use codeword KING10 for 10% off / Only Valid through Shopify Option    OneFarm Formally (Waayb CBD) www.onefarm.com/kyle (Get 15% off everything using code word KYLE at checkout)   Connect with Abria Joseph: Website | https://pranaforceyoga.com/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/pranaforceyogabria/?hl=en Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/abria.joseph   Connect with Aaron Alexanader: Website | https://alignpodcast.com/ Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/AlignMovement/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/alignpodcast/?hl=en Twitter | https://twitter.com/alignpodcast?lang=en YouTube | https://bit.ly/2meaIEH   Check out Aaron's new book The Align Method | https://alignpodcast.com/align-method/ Listen to the Align podcast | https://alignpodcast.com/podcast/   Connect with Kyle Kingsbury | https://www.kingsbu.com   Subscribe to the Kyle Kingsbury Podcast iTunes | https://apple.co/2P0GEJu Stitcher | https://bit.ly/2DzUSyp Spotify | https://spoti.fi/2ybfVTY IHeartRadio | https://ihr.fm/2Ib3HCg Google Play Music | https://bit.ly/2HPdhKY Aaron Alexander and I sat down with musician and world traveler, Abria and he gave us a deep dive into music, hand pan playing and construction and leads us through a guided meditation.   Connect with Abria Joseph: Website | https://pranaforceyoga.com/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/pranaforceyogabria/?hl=en Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/abria.joseph   Connect with Aaron Alexanader: Website | https://alignpodcast.com/ Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/AlignMovement/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/alignpodcast/?hl=en Twitter | https://twitter.com/alignpodcast?lang=en YouTube | https://bit.ly/2meaIEH   Check out Aaron's new book The Align Method | https://alignpodcast.com/align-method/ Listen to the Align podcast | https://alignpodcast.com/podcast/   Connect with Kyle Kingsbury | https://www.kingsbu.com   Subscribe to the Kyle Kingsbury Podcast iTunes | https://apple.co/2P0GEJu Stitcher | https://bit.ly/2DzUSyp Spotify | https://spoti.fi/2ybfVTY IHeartRadio | https://ihr.fm/2Ib3HCg Google Play Music | https://bit.ly/2HPdhKY  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, hello friends. Hopefully you are all doing well on your lockdown, self-imposed quarantine or government-imposed quarantine and staying healthy, getting outside and doing all the good stuff for our bodies. named abria who i got to meet through a friend out in la he lives in hawaii and uh he travels the globe doing really cool shit he does sound healings he's a handpan specialist he plays a number of instruments but known for his expertise in handpan playing as well as uh handpan construction and i bought my handpan directly from him which was really cool cool. We got to, I was out in LA to meet him there and got to do a pretty much like a private lesson all day with him on this amazing instrument that is really hard to fuck up. So I'm not the best at music and it's really fun and meditative to get locked into this. And at the end of this, we have him do a guided meditation, which is really cool. And I think, um, quite appropriate for these times to remain in a place of peace, um, just for our
Starting point is 00:01:12 own internal wellbeing, but also because stress can lead to sickness. So staying our healthiest, happiest version of ourselves, making sure that we fill our cup each day and fill our soul medicine. That's the medicine and, uh, Aabria has got some, some great medicine. So we jump right into all that good stuff. Uh, I think at the end of this, we might release that as two, uh, episodes, I think. So we can just have the meditation there, uh, on its own. So, but, uh, it will be at the end as well. And also my boy, Aaron Alexander jumped in on this one. He was also doing some of the hand pan curriculum learning and getting the wise tutelage of Vibria. And we, we had a great time and Aaron had a piece out, I guess, towards the end of this thing. So he shoots a lot of the questions out first. And then after he leaves, I get a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:03 my questions in and it's kind of cool. You know, it wasn't too much of a back out first. And then after he leaves, I get a lot of my questions in. And it's kind of cool. It wasn't too much of a back and forth. I knew he had limited time. So I hope you all enjoy this one. I certainly did. I had a lot of fun with it. And he'll be back on the podcast again for sure. There's a lot of ways you can support this show. One of those is to click subscribe. Leave us a five-star rating with one or two ways the shows help you in life, and also check out our sponsors. We've only got two today. We've got our awesome sponsor, Ancestral Supplements, and it's brought to you today by Grass-Fed Beef Organs by Ancestral Supplements. These guys make New Zealand-sourced nose-to-tail organ meats, bone marrow, and beef organs in simple, convenient gelatin capsules. Traditional peoples, Native Americans, and early ancestral healers believed that the
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Starting point is 00:05:13 for making this happen absolutely thank you abria for opening up our our everything with music oh man i'm so blessed to be here with you guys and sharing that. Yeah. Yeah. Can you, so we just talked about, we were talking about how music kind of opens up channels and opens us up to different thoughts and feelings and ideas. Can we kind of start? Absolutely. With that? I love that idea, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I just wanted to tune in and acknowledge this space and what we're all doing here in creating room for us to feel and connect and um and breathe into that for a few breaths if that's cool yeah Thank you. How sound moves. How sound travels. Through through and around and above
Starting point is 00:06:53 and under everything. Codes of information. Of stories. So how do we move our sound? Or how do we move our energy? Our presence here is already a high vibration. Our presence here is already a high vibration. Are we okay with remembering that? Remembering it so much that we feel it. Just the vibration alone is the medicine. Kyle, how'd you experience that? still going yeah
Starting point is 00:09:14 that was super deep it's a special thing i mean we can it's it's like anything like when ted decker talks about you can talk about an avocado what it looks like what it tastes like the consistency of it the thickness of it the wetness of it but until you one, you don't know the avocado. Right? Absolutely. And you can listen to, I think I was just talking with Cal last night about how beautiful music is, and it's beautiful when we listen to our favorite albums or any of these things,
Starting point is 00:09:59 and the Music for Mushrooms album from East Forest, which is incredible, but the live music. In real time. In real time. It's just a completely different experience because you can experience so much range and so much depth and vibration.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And it is literally singing to you, you know? There's nothing like it. Yeah. there's nothing like it yeah I like personally I mean I want to hear your perception of this because I think your well is a lot deeper
Starting point is 00:10:36 than my own but something that I really value about music is it's such an amazing tool at removing myself for myself you know because i think we have access to everything that we need below all of these ideas of who we think we are and what we think we're supposed to be doing there's this inner wisdom that sometimes is kind of like a
Starting point is 00:10:59 whisper that wants to speak and i feel like moments like that where i come in with kind of more like my ego mind and intellectual mind of like, tell us about the neuroscience of sound. And you're like, boom. We're like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:10 okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, consider it like this. Like it's all about the sound that we're putting out. So even the, um,
Starting point is 00:11:24 the silence in between has so much information yeah but like when you ask a beautiful question and the response is not words that the cognitive mind has time to focus on and break down and analyze we go into sound which basically is beyond the words because that's not a human design that's an universal construct you know it's a universal law of how sound moves and creates and emanates images to be in this holographic reality like what we're seeing right now we just think that's a piece of beautiful slab of wood but it's vibrating at such high frequencies it's just
Starting point is 00:12:05 like actually there you know we can go so deep with breaking it into that micro just to get a little mental idea like a personality like idea it's like oh i got that you know but it's really like it's more simple it's a feeling like you were you were saying. It's like, you're like, boom, you felt that energy. And it wasn't word spoken. You can word speak on top of it. And you start getting this like, what? What's the story about? We're just texturing and if you can move sound like that just in your thoughts if you have enough energy to vibrate a
Starting point is 00:13:00 thought in through the mind space that vibration can literally shake and move us in truth bumps to to fear to whatever and you've we've actualized it into this dimension if we cry or if we laugh about it a thought that's a vibration moving through our mind space eventually you know you can look at it as through nerves and and images but it's a felt thing so the whole style of using sound as a tool like imagine if we didn't have spoken language so our personalities couldn't get too tied in as we've been programmed to this point in time and we use our sounds and our gestures and our body language if we really didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings we wouldn't use certain words that someone could look at or feel it's like you know harmful to them
Starting point is 00:13:49 and now we just use sound we could just both hop on hop on this one for example and then kyle's on another c sharp and we'll just start off with just texture on the top note you know like you both know a bit of the structure but you can touch it just by muting it or you can start, you know, actually tapping it to allow more sound to come out. And you, you notice that like the harder you hit or the faster that movement, the volume can turn up or turn down yep so so just explore like what's your what's your level zero would be like not even touching it that would be like this
Starting point is 00:14:29 but there's still energy going towards it right yeah but now if we were to put one it's almost like you're just like just touching it not really yeah right now we're holding hand pans right right we're just holding we should let people we're holding hand pans. Right, right. We're just holding. We should let people know. These are hand pans. We're not touching each other. Yeah. That's the activation right there. And then you start increasing the volume, which is, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:57 how much energy you're putting into the instrument, which is moving through you, through the mind, into the body, out to this source. And I'm just turning it up a little bit louder. And then I'll find a point where I'm kind of at my max. It might not reach 10 per se, but you can hear a nice, clean sound. And it's not slappy.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's not going out of range. It's controlled. And you can explore, explore say outside some notes and we're just doing this kind of like up and down it's easy to keep the rhythm yeah we can all hear each other and see each other and even closing eyes and just breathing. Listening for the sound. Turning the volume down a little bit. It feels to me like it's like having a conversation with someone. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Not even the music itself. Like music, we're clearly speaking to each other through sound, which is what we're doing with our voices and body language and all that in general yeah but the metaphor of how softly i connect with someone versus yes you know maybe it's okay maybe it's not words yet maybe words would kind of spoil the whole moment so i'm just kind of tapping just above you know and then like okay oh and then that conversations felt or that word or sound has comes over to Kyle and he goes what would be the response to like one strike yeah so now he's giving you some feedback right he's like responding and then adding and it's just this texturing of you know like finding different sounds that you like the the volume that you wanted at,
Starting point is 00:17:07 the rate in which you're moving into it. And that's the conversation with yourself. So it's not like we're sitting here playing handpans. The reality is the handpans are playing us as we're instruments too. So the meeting of both is this like, this chat we've had of like, while we go in with medicine, with breathing, with water, with elements like sun,
Starting point is 00:17:25 and all of a sudden we're activating ourselves in this really epic way. We're just really feeling, you know, feeling the moment, feeling one another, feeling all the energies kind of thing. I wonder what it is about sound and ceremonies of all sorts that makes it such a powerful catalyst for change that's a great question what do you feel on that kyle well i think um you know it's just like you were talking about when we when we get into the pan we're and what aaron was alluding to right in the opening is we're getting out of our heads and into our hearts so if we can shut the monkey mind off and feel, that's a different level of awareness.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Right. And fill in the blank on any medicine substance that can get us there, whether that's breath, fasting for extended periods of time, the darkness, which Aubrey just did, flotation tanks are any of my favorites among the plants. They can tend, if you have enough, to break you out of your mind and into your heart. And the sound is hitting on a level that's so much deeper than what we can put words around. It's felt. It's known with a capital K.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And in combination, it's really, really special. I mean, they're all special. But I mean, my most profound ceremonies in medicine work has always included sound. It's never been without it. It's always been in combination with music and and song so you're wrapping right into the my experience of sitting ceremony in maui for the first time and being provided the medicine just by myself and going into this little cottage ohana space for an evening of full activation by myself with no sound i didn't know how to play any instruments at that point
Starting point is 00:19:25 but what i found later in the evening was um i grabbed a bottle that had water in it and the top i was tapping it and i was tapping it like a drum it was just channeling through and then i braided my hair in two different sides i'm like seriously you want me to do this right now on my arm i'll do it and my hair was like not as long as it is now but it was like down to like here in two braids and i took a picture of myself in that state and it was just to like isolate that memory of going into this full acknowledgement i'm like i'm not the body i'm not anything i'm just this vibration that's you know moving me to do this and put my hair here and then i purge and then it's like all these different ways of like moving sound moving energy and it's not one being worse than the other it's
Starting point is 00:20:10 like the darkness like in the invitation is so empowering for the light as well um and it's kind of like the instruments like you can play something very uh emotional and deep or I can just make it a bit brighter or just just changing the pace what does that do for your face Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:25 There's so much stress and there's so much pressures. The idea of this and what I feel like we're all activating is our own way to practice that living experience and just sharing, hey, these are some different ways, calling attention to different things so people can feel is the start, like just to get into the moment and land here is one thing. Then going and activating is another
Starting point is 00:21:45 and then actually integrating all that activation into how can i show back up here right now like what am i really here for am i here to be in the future with the dreams and expectations or in the past with all the the challenges or the triumphs it's all kind of relative how we move through time and spaces it's helpful for me like in reflection of what kyle's sharing that it just brings you into the moment what you're saying is it just kind of like destroys all words yeah and that's fun for me and sharing it too and seeing you all learn like that because the awareness and the time you've all invested in your connection to being here through physical movements through prayer through song through
Starting point is 00:22:31 dancing whatever that's all good it's all the same different ways to move energy yeah and that's why I kind of started on my clay was the question there's no question it's just sound. I was reading, not reading, sorry, I was watching a video this morning of bees sonicating pollen off of the little anther dealie. I had a side of vision of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Tell me about that. It's such a cool thing to see. There's the perfect frequency to cause the pollen to be removed of what's called, it's like this little antenna thing called an anther. And there's certain plants that the only way in order to access that, that pollen is through sonication.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And so if you come in with the perfect Hertz frequency, it just, it's like surrender. The pollen just pours out. It just shoots, it's busted up that pollen load. You know, and it's like, it's so funny watching that i'm like that's literally what we do in business relationships that's what we do and you know very literal a sexual perspective absolutely you know it's like do you have the
Starting point is 00:23:38 right frequency in order to cause the pollen to you know and if you don't there's certain people and they come to the room everyone just kind of of like, oh, it's wrong frequency. Right. You can feel that's an energetic vibrational frequency thing. That's like Tesla style, you know, that whole, you know, what are these different waves of energy that are able to hit us that we cannot see, but we can feel. Yeah. That's like the natural or our instinctual auric field that goes beyond our physical body like what we know right here in the container you can see
Starting point is 00:24:10 someone or feel someone from far away or you can see them someone from not just far but like on the other side of the world and you're like well i was just thinking of you or feeling you and then there's these codes that we're transmitting through certain moments in time through moments in our experience and it's all like weaving together that's how we've come i feel to this point just staying in contact sharing sound watching you know one another for whatever you know just like a like or a not wherever our attention is that's the most valuable currency like you know that we have that i know of because it's all about putting my attention into this moment and saying wow this sound this sound is where I'm at. I'm wanting to frequency elevate myself to,
Starting point is 00:24:50 to meet with Aaron and Kyle and all these other legends that are like all magical, actually. Everyone's pretty bad-ass. Everyone's got different stories and how they're explaining their bad-assness and some are still figuring it out. Yeah. It's like a beautiful weave and we're all coming into the same area to share sound to you know pass it on even if you know it's just a few people it's going to turn someone's um mind into a whole other like canvas where they get to repaint they're like what how the hell did they do that that that energy is cool because like if we can choose anywhere to put our attention i'd want it to be on things that do inspire or serve somehow create more awareness and a little bit hopefully more lightness and and their being in their bodies yeah like their minds and feel
Starting point is 00:25:35 like fuck i feel so good to be in my body right now or i feel really you know activated to have my mental clarity and not stressed off anything or anyone or any any place i have to be so feeling that frequency energy that whole that whole style and theory of geometry we were talking a lot about geometry and how the music's moving us in that way too and i'm seeing just shapes you know and i'm following the shapes based on what i'm visualizing which is i can just picture a triangle and then do the triangle, or I could do it in a circle, you know, the movements. Not only is that, you know, really energizing for my mind, because it's binaural, so my right hand's activated by my left brain,
Starting point is 00:26:19 right is the left arm, and you can start to use that on the instrument where you're moving your hands and then crossing them over and we're literally just doing all these different geometries and shapes and that's how i saw a lot of the geometry that's been in my visions i put it as codes on my body too because i can kind of see this now easier different motions or repetitions on one given area. Just creating that little tension. Moving the sound. It's just a beautiful dance, basically. With painting, which I know that,
Starting point is 00:27:05 Kyle, you've been getting psyched on painting recently yeah yeah big time um i saw paul check again at the end of the at the end of the year and um something i've always done with him is we'll do like a mandala and just paint within that and i would really only do it on days where I was going to drop into a medicine space. And he recommended I read Essentialism. Highly recommend that book. And it really just helped me shape, like, what does my day, my ideal day look like? What does my ideal life look like? Does it happen when I retire or does it happen right now?
Starting point is 00:27:41 How do I figure out what is the top priority? Singular. Not a list of shit to do and what's important now and then from there really constructing how i want my days to look and as i freed up more time um you know this year i've wanted to tap in to all my creative channels as best i can and my wife's a really good painter and we've had these supplies just literally sitting around and so i painted for a ceremony and i was like i should do this more often and i got a sketch pad
Starting point is 00:28:10 and started sketching a lot of the things that were coming to me like metatron's cube right and some of the sacred geometries but from there it's just been like this this amazing way to drop again out of my head and into my heart because I'll sit there and try to decide the color palette and this is going to go here and that's going to go there and Tosh will just laugh and be like I think you're overthinking this and it's like okay no shit all right let me just put paint down and the second I start putting paint down it all unfolds before me but I'm not directing it consciously. I'm just putting it out there and I can create something that's beautiful and it's improving.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I mean, you can see like as you date these things and hang them on your wall, the difference within two months is pretty significant. And I'm not fucking Picasso or Alex Gray, but I can see big changes. And more importantly than I guess like how I would evaluate the performance of the art itself is the fact that when I'm in the art, I'm nowhere else. I'm just in the art and I'm there with my wife connecting in a way that's deeper than throwing on a Netflix special. It's deeper than sitting around and talking about the day.
Starting point is 00:29:23 It's a way to connect without words, similar to song, you know? And it's such a beautiful thing. And she's doing this incredible rendition of a jaguar we saw at Spirit Quest a couple years back at Don Howard's place. And the whole thing's coming alive. I did a day trip, and it was interesting because it was daytime,
Starting point is 00:29:44 so I could be external. It wasn't just in darkness in my own mind's eye, and as I looked at the art, everything came to life. There's an energetic imprint that is embedded in that. It's become its own form of consciousness and its own energy field, and I know that sounds super fucking weird, but if you have art at your house and uh any practice to get you into medicine whether that's breath work or
Starting point is 00:30:10 any other form um you can watch this stuff just come out of the wall you know and like see what's behind that what was the emotion that went into that was there pain was there light was there all of it rolled into one and see what that expression is you know we have a lot of alex gray art and one of them is the holy family and it's a man i've been getting really emotional lately lately around family stuff because we have our baby girl on the way. But seeing that like to a man and a woman and their child in the middle, and it's in all the sacred geometries and seeing that on medicine, you're just like, that's, that's it. That's it. And then extending that out, like what can we see?
Starting point is 00:31:07 How big can our tribe become? How big can our family become? Can the world be our brothers and sisters? And the answer is yes. As we extend that awareness and realize that I am interconnected to everything. You know, the same interbeing you feel in ayahuasca or Charles Eisenstein talks about in the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible. There's no separation from anything, no separation from source, no separation from any of us in this room. And like every way that I see that and connect to that and feel that lesson allows me to see God in all things. And from there, it just quiets the noise of life. Because it's like, oh yeah, I can remember that. I can feel that. I can see you. I can see you.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And reading all these spiritual texts and searching, that's something Paul Selig said to me. The only thing the world is missing right now humanity is missing is its own recognition of its own divinity and it's been lost through the tale of stuff that's been handed down for thousands of years and told to do in a certain way with a certain construct and and people's resistance to that or blindly following of that and not having the direct experience for themselves. But all these avenues of creativity through painting,
Starting point is 00:32:34 through music, through going to a sound healing, to plant medicines, they're our direct experience with Source. They're our direct experience with our higher self because we see that as we drop from our mind, all that peace and love and bliss,
Starting point is 00:32:59 it's already there. It's always been there. It's just tuning into that. And it's all inside us. It's already there. It's always been there. It's just tuning into that. And it's all inside us. It's not external. We can't grab that outside of ourselves because it's fleeting.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But inside, it's always there if we tune in and tap into that. Beautiful. Yeah. I feel you brother that remembrance that feeling i when you were speaking i was i was feeling what it the memories of that energy is coming from within not without and it's like this beautiful blossoming you know flower idea or this opening heart idea and it's like this beautiful blossoming you know flower idea or this opening heart idea and it's
Starting point is 00:33:46 you know there's certain moments for that to really go through and feel and your experience with your family is the most profound in your existence as of right now that you know of and everyone's also going through this and that's that our way into one another, to be able to see from perspective each other's feelings and be embodied in other brothers and sisters, whoever we're drawing in or calling in. How big can the family be? It's totally limitless. It's beyond this planet.
Starting point is 00:34:23 We can keep going further further remembering more and feeling more and i love the image of alex gray because i can see that with the mama and papa and the babies in between and all the electrical lines and all the geometry and it's like the reason i brought up the painting um is because i think it's i mean i think it's essentially the same thing as creating sound it's just sound in the form of color there's a uh saw they create a thing who the they is i don't know what the company is called but for uh blind people that can't see color they'll have glasses that they'll be able to see different oranges or reds or the color of a certain person's skin then they will translate those colors into sound that they have connected their
Starting point is 00:35:13 ear and then when they're looking around they're literally seeing the world in sound love this and i think that we're continually doing that whether we realize it or not. And the reason I mentioned the painting thing in the first place was you can see where people are blocked with certain developmental patterns based off of the way that they paint. I think it's a similar thing based off of the way that a person makes sound, obviously in the form of their voice and communication with the world and all that, but directly into playing a handpan for example right i wonder how much psychological emotional spiritual development you can kind of haphazardly bump into just by starting to make these sounds absolutely it feels like a bit of a clearing device like a reflection but also a way to express emotion and also just kind of get lost yeah you know without the structure without knowing too much or doing too much fancy stuff it's just kind of like just touching and and and connecting in in a way that allows us to receive you know like i'm open
Starting point is 00:36:20 to receive and feel not just flash over something real quick, but really delve into it as you would a lover, as you would a, you know, a vision that you really dream to feel in your life as real, not just a dream. That's the dream. A real is that same vision. It's, you have to see it so much that you feel it so much that you become it. It's just a natural progression. we're going to do it either way you know that's what we do as as creators as divine gods and goddesses whatever men and women we can label it differently but the feeling with the instrument can remind us that same thing you
Starting point is 00:36:59 know going into these sound waves getting into meditations just using it for a visual yantra like what you're sharing seeing colors and i can look at the shapes and i can look at the textures and and that yantra is my meditation i'm looking at those shapes and seeing it and to the point where i can close my eyes and I can still see it, but from my internal vision. And that's that, you know, that mind's eye, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:28 C sharp, we were talking about root chakra and it kind of just fires up to the, the brain. Cause the, the brain's that initial, especially if we're looking, um, that initial,
Starting point is 00:37:38 a sense that we use to, to, to get feedback from. And then we put the sound or energy back into it, but based on what we hear and see, like last night we were flying with Justin and we were just crushing this epic jam session, laughing so hard.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I kid you not. I could not open my eyes. I was crying and I was laughing, keeled over doing the most epic geometry still while Justin was like, he LOLs. I can't laugh out loud. I'm like, I'm like suffocating,
Starting point is 00:38:07 you know, Justin's in there. It's like, this is so much fun. And that's the feeling we are in that happy state where you just feel that rush of beautiful hormonal energy. That's just releasing these endorphins and these energy waves. And now we're feeling it in the body.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So we move something from a silly moment into a fully activated sound ceremony. It wasn't just like jamming. It wasn't for performance. It was a bit of a meditational prayer enjoyment. Like we were having fun at the same time, knowing that who gives a shit? How clearly can you see people's personality in the way that they make music
Starting point is 00:38:47 within this instrument in particular? Sure. Yeah. Is that something that you like? If I see like postural patterns, I have all these stories of like, Oh, this means that.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh yeah. Do you have anything of like, okay. You're so good. I'm so aware of all that stuff. That's cool. You know, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:39:04 it's not too much. It'd be my own analysis based on my mind thinking that I know like things. But overall, yeah, you can tell who's shrugged shoulder and a little bit shy and just relaxing their scapula and letting everything drop in and then bringing the body back, you know, to where they feel comfortable. I can see maybe that person's a little bit you know tense or shy and trying to hide themselves in their little you know bodies and then watching them and i'll i'll just tell them based on even um kyle we set up with a nice
Starting point is 00:39:35 seat so just give them a little bit of lift over the instrument and that that one bit of you know degree or whatever amount to to get a better visual and ergonomic position shows a lot of the person's awareness of body posture yeah but i mean the way that they make sound oh within itself yeah minus the posture i'm just using that as like the actual when you see somebody playing and or see somebody playing in a group if someone maybe is like oh that person just is always overpowering or that person is always really quiet doesn't really want to be heard or that person is oh you play the same rhythm over and over again that person is very sporadic right right do you see any consistencies
Starting point is 00:40:14 with the way that they operate in life absolutely yeah the playing style if you're a composer you're composing a certain track or a song, you probably have more of a tendency to have that similar style personality often. You stay consistent with your flows. If you're traveling, you can go into sporadic, but also still composed. It just depends on that person's experience, I suppose. Within playing the instrument. I've only been playing for five years, but it's a lot of time, but it's still newer to 20 years of it being out
Starting point is 00:40:47 and available for people to play. So I would say for sure people's personalities are very similar to their style of playing. Maybe a bit more Celtic, but depends on where they live, what they're influenced by with music and sound. I tend to have like a bit of yogic or eastern style patterns i feel like certain rhythms and taps and then um but also i love the kind of faster more happy that one i was playing yeah it was a bit more like it just got everyone like whoa that's kind of fun
Starting point is 00:41:18 you know so that's something i wanted to ask you about. This is a relatively new instrument. Talk about the history of this, like where it comes from and how it's been used throughout the world. Absolutely. The original archetype of these instruments is from the Caribbean, like Tobago and all the different Caribbean islands that had the steel drums as like a steel pan that would be played with like an oil drum and that would be hammered down and then all the notes would be threaded inside and you play it
Starting point is 00:41:50 with sticks kind of sticks and maybe little mallets at the end what that would do is create this epic range and they'd have usually two so they could play both sides so it's what I believe to be a full scale like a full chromatic you can play any kind of song christmas songs and everything like that the instruments they were based from that archetype and then flipped over and you know glued down with two huge you know um like welded sheets that are all you know musically inclined and then they played it with their hands a swiss couple created that and that company then built what's called the hung and the hung is an instrument that's branded from that particular company pan art is it well is it well i was thinking it still well hung well hung yeah
Starting point is 00:42:38 that's the style come on nobody else nobody else i was screaming it inside my mind i know totally good my mind and the hung is the the hung is that that's like it is it's the hung the hung is the hand it's like the connection to someone because it's built by hand and tuned by hand and played by hand so they would call this in a swiss dialect like burn burn switzerland it's called the hung in that in that it's made in that way but now the typical or the more common name is handpan or pantom and handpan is like just common it's a hand on a pan steel pan yeah so within within all the instruments now builders all around the world are building in different instruments. We have friends from all over the world that build Epic instruments.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And now we're just like playing, training, like doing workshops with them and building, starting to build our own in Hawaii. I wonder for a person that doesn't have access to a handpan or a flute or whatever, is there some way to be leveraging sound in a more meaningful way and in one's daily life right now like listening to this and in a car absolutely i mean it's just time to put these more kind of non-verbal songs just really ambient sounds it could be just simple movements driving to work cleaning the house just laying down and just resting for a little while in the Sun just having this like really beautiful harmonic sounds
Starting point is 00:44:11 I think what's what's nice about it it's the harmony that it can create when they're well tuned instruments and the feedback that they can give one another especially if you're playing with another person now you're having conversations or energy exchanges without any words it's kind of just like a flow and the flow state feels good it's like when we're in the divine moment kind of like oh i'm here i'm embodied i'm in this music right now or this painting right now yeah yeah what's inspiring for you and with with music presently the the limitless possibilities of patterns and shapes and geometry um that's my own personal the service side of it for me is passing that on so other people have a little bit of inspiration too if if it can call somebody's attention to to be in the moment or when it does
Starting point is 00:45:01 it's really really profound to help, you know, people practice meditation without having to like sit down and close their eyes and do this type of thing. It's a different style of meditation, I believe. With the, I have to leave here soon, so this will be like closing the end of my ability to ask questions. When you say geometry geometry what does that mean geometry for me with like in relation to music in relation to absolutely geometry for me within
Starting point is 00:45:33 the instrument is all about how i see different shapes unfold within its actual visual map so if i see the actual instrument you know and all the notes that go in the circle and so on and so forth, I'm seeing different angles of this instrument's notes and which ones I might want to touch in creating shapes. So if I'm just choosing three in a triangle, just thinking pyramid kind of idea, and then I'll choose a different set of three, but maybe there's two that are still included, that should give a little bit of a different sound so repetition right just do it again letting sound move
Starting point is 00:46:29 and now that that's just that simple yeah flow three different patterns and it's like you said the relation to the geometry it's how i'm reading it and then i'm just exploring do i like that sound do i want to use that now and do another layer like and back to another similar pattern i'm just finding different ways to express myself through the instrument. Seeing shapes for me helps play this because I don't know exactly what notes I'm even striking at the moment. I'm just feeling that I connect with the scale, I connect with the key, meaning the actual root of that instrument is D or F or whatever. So we have C sharp minor, and that's another C sharp minor
Starting point is 00:47:25 and those can play well because they have similar notes just maybe in different positions so the instruments are now like really keyed in to play together which is super fun when you're able to play with someone else or if someone's proficient enough to play two because now they just lengthen all their notes by how many more notes
Starting point is 00:47:42 and you have this epic range you can do all kinds of really happy stuff really dreamy or bassier when you have more range like that you can you can express more sounds yeah yeah or you when working with music i feel like something that i do quite regularly is I'll listen to the same song over and over again to kind of just like put me in more of like a trance type state. Is that something that you're thinking about when you're playing for people,
Starting point is 00:48:14 kind of like guiding the room's group mind? That's a good point. Absolutely. If it's a savasana or like a guided meditation that's a few hours long, to even sustain and play for that amount of time is a huge meditation. And that's what I'd love to share with you, bros, is like, you know, collaborate with different friends in different places that have different,
Starting point is 00:48:36 you know, instruments, different styles of playing, and then just do full kind of sound bath activations. We just do it naturally anyways yeah but sharing that and then having a bit of guidance or lead meditation or visualization for example we can help them go into more reflective states just by asking them to take breaths into their body visualizing you know certain images within their mind that they want to see that they know are what they're meant to experience like this as those thoughts and those visions really amplify especially when you're doing it in a sacred kind of intention a ceremonial
Starting point is 00:49:16 space as opposed to a performance-based space yeah then everyone's activating each other and it's not just like performers and then an audience it's like the audience that's going to listen and hear all this vibe is going to be just as much as part of it when they're there feeling that yeah you know i need to leave yeah um but i so greatly appreciate getting to share time with both of you guys i love you brother i love you man i love you as well it's been such a beautiful uh experience i've gotten to learn so much with words and without words and i feel like i've in this just like walking into this room and being here um i literally feel like a transformed person just from hanging out with you guys for the last three hours so thank you thank you thank you do you think we could maybe play me out with some music absolutely
Starting point is 00:50:05 play me out and then for everyone listening don't worry i want to i got tons of questions on my mind that i want to get to yeah with abria and uh and then of course i would love to um finish with uh a guided meditation if you will absolutely so um we'll have you know this this podcast is still rolling still rolling we're still hot yes all right play my man out thank you guys PENGALA All right, let's dive right in. I always like to get background on people, find out where they grew up, how you got into music, what developed you into being drawn to all this. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I grew up in the Bay Area and had incredible musicians, artists from all around that lived in that town, that whole county, from like Santana to Mariah Carey and famous people that had houses or homes within Marin that I didn't even know were there, you know, making music. The Beatles recorded, I believe, in some parts of the Bay Area too and most of it was like reggae music in high school more like hip-hop and kind of dance hall and then more Latin and stuff like that but I'd never played an instrument before five years ago so I was always keen and like loved music and loved rhythm and loved the dance however never played
Starting point is 00:52:31 anything myself so the first time I heard this instrument when I was traveling and living in Holland I heard it in a huge kind of market space and I followed the sound all the way down to where this guy was busking on the ground and the sound was so epic and it just really activated all of my my emotions of something so familiar yet completely foreign to my knowing it was like a different shape i'd never heard anything that sounded like it so and that's kind of the sound, my sound journey. I've been teaching yoga for a long time as well. And with that, I've listened to so many epic tracks of Indian style or more modern dance music and integrated into teaching yoga
Starting point is 00:53:17 with the playlists that I make too. Yeah, that's something I always appreciate about doing yoga in a new spot is I wonder what they're going to play. Right. Especially if the teacher gets to choose the playlist, you get to see almost like a part of their personality shine through. Absolutely. And how they want the arc of the class to go. Absolutely. And it sets the whole tone of like,
Starting point is 00:53:46 if it's an emotional part of class or if it's more like getting on it type of class, like part of class where you're like really moving or you're, you know, kicking your legs up or you're stretching in a certain way as opposed to a more yin style at the end where you're just kind of adjusting to bring it back in. Beautiful, brother. Yeah. Well, I know you just did some serious world travels at the end where you're just kind of adjusting to to bring it back in you know beautiful brother
Starting point is 00:54:05 yeah well i know you just did some some serious world travels uh peru israel and egypt yeah i'd love for you to unpack those trips and talk about what you learned what you did what you gained absolutely well the intention for that journey that quest was all about where I can be in most service, where I can be in most receptivity, like energy-wise, so I could also learn. maybe activate communities or people or friends or brothers or sisters that are on their journey or quest too and that's the kind of a mutual thing like we're going to all learn from one another but the collaboration i guess is is what i'm getting to is the connecting to and then activating together and seeing what our vibes are in those certain whether it's instruments or conversation whatever and so the first journey into Peru was so profound I've never been to South America
Starting point is 00:55:08 and what they're doing there even now today with still integrating and and activating medicines to help them feel and heal is such a commendable thing because most people won't go and and reach out for it and like go on the quest because it's comfortable where we are we're we're we're kind of stuck in the story or whatever that you know that thing might be so that's what i really got out of visiting peru just the community now the energy of the land had a whole other story. Just being on the land was so activating. Eating the food from the land. Rolling and flowing through different parts of sacred sites.
Starting point is 00:55:55 For example, Cusco all the way into Machu Picchu. Standing on immense powerful points on the planet. And just realizing that the people there, energies whoever you know activated these spaces that energy is literally still there and people can tune into it if they're keen on that either through sound or through um just prayer like sitting down and breathing and in the flow from there after you know a month or so in peru the journey went to israel which i've been to before and visited some brothers there and one of the brothers that builds the handpan that i play and it's called a yishama and that whole end so activated and going to the Dead Sea and then Jerusalem and Tel Aviv,
Starting point is 00:56:46 it's kind of the thread that I was in and around. Each of the sites using similar technologies of construction, of sound spaces, basically how an auditorium would be in order to speak and have no microphones, right? And allowing for the light to move through in a certain way the air will move through in different ways it's all thought out and different spaces for prayer obviously their power points and why they built a temple in a certain location so israel was really
Starting point is 00:57:20 especially because i'm so familiar and i love the energy there intense but also still like very comfortable familiar um kind of western style but very like eastern traditions which is beautiful to see and then flowing over to egypt was the the tail end of the trip um over about two weeks time of exploring different temples, playing the instruments in different spaces that we could, because usually they'll stop you in every location. And I could share a little bit about that, what I think that's for, but just in general, just going out there and exploring Egypt, the temples, the sacred sites that were literally alchemic powerpoints and very
Starting point is 00:58:07 intentional grids and meridians of how the buildings were set to the body and spirit and the cycle and connection and acceptance of death you know to come to this afterlife experience and then because of all that that mystical kind of storytelling it intrigues me to just feel it and then i'll interpret it my own way of course but so that was a three-month journey playing the ham pan teaching yoga speaking and guiding these kind of meditative sound ceremonies and just reminding people to dream it real and to put their vision into play now with whatever resources of their mind they can fathom and that's where we're at now and that's the last trip in la to link up with you
Starting point is 00:58:57 and keep the sound moving and share some different vibes yeah that's so cool what an incredible three-month journey i think the longest i've been gone was uh i spent a month in south america i did a week in peru a week in colombia a week in costa rica and a week in panama and that was an incredible trip too didn't make it to machu picchu definitely that's someplace that you know i would love to experience some of the different hotbeds of the planet earth and you know for something closer to home for people that are still on the fence about the energy of the earth and things like that like first of all we can back scientifically that the schumann resonance exists it's there yeah and we can tap into that in different places on the planet express energy fields at a rate that is palpable and anywhere on the earth you can tap into that
Starting point is 00:59:54 feeling it's not like you got to go to machu picchu to get there but there are places where you it is i mean i can't sleep in sedona i never never can sleep there. I'll get tired, I'll lay in bed, but it's so charged, right? And medicine in Sedona, even breathwork practices, which is a medicine with my girl Anahata, they're truly incredible. We've seen groups of 55 people just crack wide open from breathwork alone. But I think about those things a lot like getting into
Starting point is 01:00:26 a place where not only am i vibrating differently and connecting to the earth in a different way but experiencing the earth in a different way and then through that tapping into the people of that land the culture and not just the culture that's there now but the ancestors and everyone who's come before us yes you know like all the wisdom that's held in the lineage i love that rooting down and like really tuning in with that even if that's just the reflection of you know it's rare that we get to see so many elders in this this time and that's what i'm like feeling is is the ones that are here, especially looking out and feeling them and sending love. So that's going to move to us at one point. And the energy that we pass down to the offspring
Starting point is 01:01:14 that are now guardians of this planet and playing the music and doing the art and living their dreams, which is still us going. It's magic. brother well talk talk a little bit about some of your um i'm curious you know when did you when were you first exposed to plant medicines or psychedelics or anything of that nature because i mean growing up in the bay i think people have this idea how old are you 39 okay i'm 37 people have this idea you're from the bay and it's like
Starting point is 01:01:45 yeah it's california and it's you know there was the psychedelic 60s and flower power and 30,000 people at golden gate park and it's like i know nothing of that when i grew up it was weirdos that were doing mushrooms i didn't want anything to do with it you know like i had to sort that out for myself and actually like the first spiritual experience i had was on psilocybin in Sedona without intention, without any proper guidance or anything like that. But it cracked me open. It was an activation for sure. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And circling back now, of course, we've got Johns Hopkins and Roland Griffiths and all these people out there that are verifying what's been known since the dawn of humanity, arguably, especially with psilocybin roland griffiths and all these people out there that are verifying what's been known for since the dawn of humanity arguably especially with psilocybin in the history of use among early hominids and what's speculated by the mckenna brothers but all that to say these tools are so transformative and i just wonder like what draws us in you know people talk about the calling they have and maybe you listen to this podcast or aubrey's or rogan's or somebody else's and that's enough information for you to say to yourself okay i think i'm ready i think i'm down but i wonder like where was your calling into that
Starting point is 01:02:55 that's a beautiful question man because in the bay area we're highly influenced by that that vibe of the hippies and you know grateful dead was definitely activated out there in nicasio which is also near marin it's like part of the edge of it and it just naturally was around you know our parents would have things around and we would just like tune into them smoking pot or tapping into whatever and for me it was around 13 or around like junior high when um uh with a brother we we went and did an epic um acid trip and just like we're so young you know our minds and everything was so intense because the control you know energy of all fears you know in that younger type of time of life was so, um, just to make up story, you know, like watching Freddy Krueger on movies or something and like things that were
Starting point is 01:03:52 kind of outside of us, but then you would feel maybe energy is also of the land or what we're also processing too. And, um, that trip was really challenging cause I didn't know what it was going to be like. No one explained it. You just take it and see what happens. Buckle up. Yeah, you just go for the ride. It was super strong. We were young too. That was the first time.
Starting point is 01:04:13 When I got into more practices of medicine in regards to ayahuasca or San Pedro or things like that, that just happened on the flow of my travels and inner work of yoga and in those those locations when they're thailand or wherever you meet these other people that are like medicine people or shamanic actually you know activated and they just offer in those spaces and i'm like open in the moment so it wasn't like a huge plan just knowing that like on those journeys how to how to process it you know how do i integrate this and have no guidance just like you figure it out or you have all the realizations or i remember so much i'm like now i know what to do and i gotta do it and then life happens and you know stuff just comes up again to distract our actually living our dreams or
Starting point is 01:05:04 knowing what our purpose is and totally not leaving any space for anything else to happen but that um so that happened when i was you know more in like than my 20s and visiting hawaii and sitting ceremony there um twice and really learning about the land you know i wanted to be you know i am connected to the land because the land's calling me as a guardian energy there too um for myself for my mother for friends that you know are ready to do this work and like show up for themselves and creating an environment like you know people can camp and live on the land and feel what that energy is like and not wear shoes, you know, and kind of flow to the waterfalls and then to the ocean, to the mountains, like
Starting point is 01:05:49 still not wearing shoes, you know, having things wrapped up, keeping our bodies in the right temperatures and, but then also just shifting it. So the sound and the medicines have just reminded me of all these activation ways to activate our senses and feel and as i went on and am now more seeking sound and seeking medicines not in a way that i'm like asking around it's just kind of coming as long as you show up yeah yeah that's something that that's often talked about that that i think sounds a little out there to the the uninitiated but you know like when you have the calling for aya aya finds you yeah you know and that's even if and if you can't make it to the amazon i've had a lot of people write me and say like dude you forgot what
Starting point is 01:06:35 it was like to be one of us you get you're rich now and all this shit i'm like no man i've lived check to check in the last year and i'm working on that. But it is a big commitment to take two to two and a half weeks out of your schedule to take off work that long and to have the finances to do that. I get it. But I mean, as Dennis McKenna says on any given weekend, there's hundreds of ceremonies going on in LA and New York city alone and every major city. And it's all over the place.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And I still recommend doing the pilgrimage, being in the land, connecting there. But for those who can't do that, my first 12 ceremonies were with Aya were in California. And those were beautiful. Not black belts guiding, but it didn't need to be. The medicine is the black belt itself. Right. And I think that it's just funny how that works out. It's like one more confirmation that everything is interconnected and everything is just drawn on lines.
Starting point is 01:07:35 There's no empty space. There's nothing separating us. You know, and like how life just draws those things into you. And if we're aware enough, we say, oh, that's synchronicity. But the truth is it's all synchronistic. Every fucking experience. No doubt. That's just a labeling kind of thing of that moment in time
Starting point is 01:07:54 that we could say, oh, that was synchronous. Actually, that's exactly what you dreamed up or are calling in or meant to experience with those people in that environment that the tools that bring people together like that that's what's intriguing for me and passing those tools on so that i don't actually have to be there that consciousness has already spread as soon as it's announced and you know shared to the thousands of people that are looking and listening and waiting for some other activation otherwise where else would they send their or put their attention you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:08:28 like they're they're wanting to hear what's up next and a way to channel that for anyone for ourselves in abundance both energetically financially spiritually is is like that's our service we just keep doing what we do bringing in the fire and then like just staying hot you know with our awareness keep keeping our temperature up and and you know the rhythm even um those are those are moments of way and ways to like feel oh this is the rhythm that i'm feeling and i'm communicating with the person or i'm playing on my own and doing my own little meditation like you said like different medicines like just just showing up is also the medicine for your for yourself and for the medicine itself yeah it's
Starting point is 01:09:11 like it needs us too it's like calling us as well to remember and practice the instruments do that to me all the time like it's like why am i feeling it oh it wants me to go play too yeah it's like hey take some time drop in yeah it's funny too like the more tools we have they'll they'll they'll speak to us in their own way like i was really trying to prepare with handpan before i came here and every time i went to play for the most part other than a couple sessions i'd start and be like now this ain't the one and i'd grab the double flute from perangi and just start playing with that because that was the one that was calling to me and i was like i'll get my time with this when i'm in la and and um get the crash course and really get to dive deep with it
Starting point is 01:09:50 and so that was it was really cool i guess having enough awareness to be in a state of allowing rather than forcing it and even last night you know when when uh you guys started jamming i was on a bit of uh prescription ket. We're breaking no laws here. And there was this struggle of the mind of saying, like, I only have a finite amount of time with you. I should be playing and practicing and learning. And overwhelmingly, as I surrendered to it, it was just, you're here to receive right now. And I could barely speak.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I just said, at one point, I was like, you're here to receive right now. And I could barely speak. I just said, at one point I was like, downloading. I'm downloading the information. That's it. I remember that moment. Cal's sleeping and I was like, no, downloading. You were both there. You and Cal were just crushing it. Yeah, that was amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, and that's medicine too. Just to be in that state of allowing, a state of receiving and to not force the idea of what I should be doing into it instead of maybe I can just sit back and appreciate everything that's going on right now around me. Absolutely. And you're setting into that position actually reminded me and activated me to be in that responsibility flow too i'm like oh yeah i'm responsible to do this and it's just by being present with you're being open you know you're
Starting point is 01:11:11 opening in that posture and setting your legs up and then you know resting your body and your back so everything's like soft and light allowing energy to move and being open to the energy that's coming in and also moving with those medicines whatever it is breath you know anything with the sound it's a very multi-dimensional experience without having to go and travel wherever across the world we can share this you know at home or in you know safe environments that people feel like super activated in so that's that was like just natural last night right we didn't talk about anything no unplanned just just uh just showed up yeah what ended up happening that way um well i want i would like to leave people with a couple of things. One, your information, where they can find you. You're doing yoga retreats as well as designing some of the best hand pans in the world.
Starting point is 01:12:12 So if anybody's called to it, you can purchase these. And you can select which note you'd like it in if you have a preference. If you have a preference on the look, all those things. So talk a bit about that. And then I want to leave everybody with a guided, if you have a preference on the look, all those things. So talk a bit about that, and then I wanna leave everybody with a guided meditation if you're down. Yeah, let's do that for sure. Yeah, just to acknowledge,
Starting point is 01:12:34 I mean, we're still in our company, Merkaba, it's all new instruments that we've only built so many from already, maybe like a half a dozen or so but our friends that build are where we're also having sourced instruments from so we want everyone to get them as soon as possible if people are feeling instruments or wanting to play and like really get into a meditation what we're offering also is the lessons and the styles of like being able to get into it so once you have it then it's like what do you do you know what would be the most like proficient way to connect to it and
Starting point is 01:13:09 allow for free flow kind of vibes and still composition that stuff is so much fun because then it's like you just get into jams and just like go do you have videos or is this more all live it's all live usually the sound ceremonies that i offer just cool so people can link up with you when you're in the right town and maybe they've got a little ways to travel but not across the globe or maybe they want to see the globe so they hit you in different places. In the flow, yeah, exactly. So Prana Force Yoga is my website. That's integrative of other friends that are doing yoga or massage or art or dance and it's a lifestyle business you know
Starting point is 01:13:48 a way of practicing and living your dreams is the kind of idea that blankets all the other things that we do you know nutrition and fasting and cleansing the body um music and and sound ceremonies and like you know kind, kind of like, um, jams where people, other people can bring instruments and just tune in. Uh, as long as things are in the same key, instruments are in the same key, you can flow, but, um, and then, yeah, the, the retreats and workshops that move into teacher trainings of yoga, that's, we love doing that too. know once a year so this
Starting point is 01:14:27 year we're going to Peru in November for a medicine retreat and flowing into Machu Picchu starting in Cusco like a week-long vibe so so welcome to invite and come through with you know with a small group there it would be like incredible so so inspiring and now I'm just in flow back to maui setting up the space at prana forest sanctuary it's our property there in the north shore of maui and traveling back and forth doing epic chats and jams with friends here um and just keeping that flow beautiful brother yeah beautiful Terima kasih telah menonton! Terima kasih telah menonton! piano plays softly Whatever our stories are at the moment. we would think about it so much, so that we could experience it. I feel now more than ever we really want to show up for ourselves and one another. So how well can we see the visions of our reality? What would it require? What would it take? How clear would our vision need to be?
Starting point is 01:19:01 And what we're imagining. Because that's how we amplify anything to involve us. move into that embodiment of. Using sound as a tool so that our energy moves. With just the right intention, just the right amount of force. Terima kasih telah menonton! Lama the amount of responsibility required to fully activate and feel ourselves more, feel the moment more, would mean we'd have to risk our story. that's of fear, the story that's of our being unworthy, and remove it completely from our vocabulary.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Our stories are threaded with images. Images that unleash information and codes left in a series of lineages of our ancestors. Through the elements of water, fire, earth and air. And the fifth element releases within us. We see more clearly because we are clarity. We are sound infinitely, seamless, moving through the sea. Everything activated. Breath stimulated. Terima kasih telah menonton! Thank you. Gjørens morg. PENGALA Terima kasih telah menonton! And either way, the story continues and unfolds however it's divinely meant to be, whether challenging or beautiful. Our acceptance of and our reaction to or non-reaction to allows us to be discerning with again where we set our attention and what we're
Starting point is 01:25:26 focused on knowing that we can be guided reminded by the stars and the light and the fire and the darkness is just as profound as the subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between energetic fields and it loves simply energy. So what we do now is the most important. What we can do in the moment. Changing our mind to see what we need to see, to focus on what we need to focus on by being present. And allowing things to stir us, that's okay. We're just watching this whole story anyways.
Starting point is 01:26:56 It's an epic dream. Blessed to feel. And how can we pass that on by living it. Just by simply living it. It's how we say things and announce them aloud, isn't it? Questions, or are these just statements? Are you invoking something, yeah? Well, as royal, divine, sovereign beings, I feel we deserve that opportunity especially if we're here and present to take on the responsibilities of that that's so much powerful experience squeezed into one feeling and that's how sound moves us to feel so much and not hold on to it because we cannot contain that sound or
Starting point is 01:28:00 that resonant frequency forever? Or can we? Memories that are locked into cells through elements of water and air, there's codes of information that unleash within us. Whether heard on an outside or felt from the inside, all the magic is within. And all the magic is without any fearful stories. and we can hear the wind move moving spirit, moving energy.
Starting point is 01:29:11 But what is the wind? And what is the air that's moving around? It's incredible amounts of free energy moving freely to supply us infinitely for as long as we can. And we exhaust all of the fuels that fire and nourish the plants and the trees and the environment and the coral. To harmonize with all of those things is a lot, but it's not all our responsibility.
Starting point is 01:29:54 To be a guardian of something or anything is not separating it from us. Uniting with all of the kingdoms of powerful energy. Breathing in just as much as you know you have to breathe out. Knowing that prana force, that life force, that chi envelops our body in every way. To remember infinity seamlessly would be threading all of the images into one nourishing experience, film, real, as we're experiencing these visions in different ways. so the integration is the next phase when we see something and have the vision
Starting point is 01:31:38 and weaving that into our daily life. What are our rituals, our practices, our ceremonies that help us feel, connect us to spirit, energize our bodies, our minds, and our physical wellness? wellness using leveraging tools medicines breath works body movements love making whatever the initiation to the mysteries bless it breathe it be it and so it is practicing as best we can by living it ourselves, seeing it in one another in reflection, acknowledges that our work that we are doing individually is not alone.
Starting point is 01:32:36 And grateful for that energy is, it's inspiring me to breathe and be in creativity and destroy just as much as we rebuilt. This is our moment as time is illusionary. thank you guys for tuning in to today's show with Abrea. It was a special one. And of course, my man Aaron Alexander, who had to dip out quick. Leave me questions and comments over at kingsboo.com. I am thinking of making a return to the gram just for the fact that it is such an easy way to communicate with people who are listening to this show and really just talk and find out what's happening across the world. I do feel a little bit isolated right now. So back and forth on this, uh, perils and beauty of social media, but we'll see, we'll see what happens there. I love you all. And I'll see you in a week.

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