Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #166 Solocast sorting through the noise of Cov1d

Episode Date: July 31, 2020

In this solocast I sort through the noise with many references to the Dr's and experts I have learned from regarding the virus, masks, and health. Check here for the links to the most important podcas...ts I've listened to regarding Covid and health...   Tony Robbins w panel of MDs on covid truths and misinformation, masks, economic implications  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covid-19-facts-from-frontline-facts-over-fear-part/id1098413063?i=1000475052984   Dr Paul Saladino MD https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kyle-kingsbury-podcast/id626299586?i=1000473665519   Dr Zach Bush MD Youtube on covid  https://youtu.be/KBy06CENt80 Zach Bush w Me https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kyle-kingsbury-podcast/id626299586?i=1000475816180   Andrew Huberman on sleep, stress, and peak performance with Joe Rogan  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000485871484   Matt Maruca w Me on Sunlight and health https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kyle-kingsbury-podcast/id626299586?i=1000455279206   Charles Eisenstein "The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible" https://charleseisenstein.org/books/the-more-beautiful-world-our-hearts-know-is-possible/   Dr Osborn "Get Serious" on weight training and health  https://www.amazon.com/Get-Serious-Dr-Brett-Osborn/dp/1940598206/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgo_5BRDuARIsADDEntSnQqZD04wOXp7xr2pvmpM711LOPu9xefboXsugD_iWvfY08FBMI6caAtlEEALw_wcB&hvadid=174219727118&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9028308&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2464643423231533007&hvtargid=kwd-134397205214&hydadcr=22535_9636730&keywords=get+serious+book&qid=1596206075&sr=8-1&tag=googhydr-20   Robb Wolf and Diana Rogers RD "Sacred Cow" https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Cow-Better-Well-Raised-Planet/dp/1948836912/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1Z5PSI60XG0W8&dchild=1&keywords=sacred+cow&qid=1596206157&sprefix=sacred+%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-2   Help support the podcast by visiting our sponsors:   Head to https://sovereignty.co/kyle/ to grab my favorite CGN/ Nootropic. There is nothing like this product for energy and cognitive function!   Check out Dry Farm Wines and get a bottle for a penny | DryFarmWines.com/Kyle Dry Farm is 100% organic and biodynamic grown wines from all over the world with about 1g of carbohydrate per bottle! Keto wine with none of the garbage- it is truly the healthiest wine on Earth and the only wine I drink.    Ancestral Supplements - Grass-Fed intestines  https://ancestralsupplements.com/kyle Use codeword KING10  for 10% off / Only Valid through Shopify Option. For the best supplements helping you eat nose-to-tail and getting the most nutrient dense and bioavailable nutrients in your diet.    OneFarm Formally (Waayb CBD) www.onefarm.com/kyle (Get 15% off everything using code word KYLE at checkout). Check out the BRAND NEW night serums and facial creams and (as always) the best full spectrum CBD products.    Get $100 off the Chek Institute’s Holistic Lifestyle Coach Level 1 online course by using KKP100 at checkout |  https://chekinstitute.com/hlc1online/ HLC changed my life and offered a deep dive into Paul Chek's amazing wealth of knowledge.    Connect with Kyle Kingsbury on: Instagram | https://bit.ly/3asW9Vm   Subscribe to the Kyle Kingsbury Podcast Itunes | https://apple.co/2P0GEJu Stitcher | https://bit.ly/2DzUSyp Spotify | https://spoti.fi/2ybfVTY IHeartRadio | https://ihr.fm/2Ib3HCg Google Play Music | https://bit.ly/2HPdhKY        

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, y'all. Today we have a solo cast, something I've been meaning to do for a while now. Let's see. It's been at least a few months since the last one. Plenty of updates, obviously, since quarantine started. This is something I wanted to talk about, but was kind of waiting to watch and see things unfold. I guess hoping for a time when there would be a greater degree of clarity. And as many of you have experienced, there is no greater degree of clarity. So here we are. We're just going to let this rock and roll. I will tell you what I've learned so far with regard to COVID.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It's not a deep dive on COVID. I know a lot of you are, if you're like me, tired of the conversation. It's just constantly ongoing and there is a lot of information. There's just a lot of information that is really conflicting and confusing. But I will tell you my thoughts as not a medical professional, but what I have gleaned from the medical professionals that I know. And I think that you can take what you want from it. Also, we'll talk about being a new dad. I was a dad before, but dad times two now with our first little girl. Talk about ways I manage stress and yeah, physically, mentally, emotionally, all of the above, lack of sleep, all the stressors that can happen from
Starting point is 00:01:33 that in addition to the world stressors. So plenty to discuss there on this podcast. Originally, this podcast is supposed to be with Jeff Gonzalez, who is a former Navy SEAL. That podcast will happen. Unfortunately, in my sleepless stupor, I recorded with him and forgot to push his microphone button on. So it sounds like he's halfway down the hallway, and you hear me loud and clear. there are a few things in life that chat my ass the way a technical difficulty or technical error on my part does, because it was a fantastic podcast. And I know round two will be even better for that matter. So I really appreciate Jeff for being understanding and allowing us to run that back. So I think next week we'll have Jeff release. And there's, there's a lot there too, that I could get into, but I'll save it for that episode.
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Starting point is 00:03:51 I had the opportunity to have really good raw kidney with Paul Saladino. And although I know that's probably one of the most nutrient dense things I could ever put in my body. Uh, and that didn't, it didn't taste good. It wasn't palatable. So I like getting, you know, the organ meats that I can choke down in me and anything that I can not, but I know it's still healthy. I want to get from ancestral supplements and these guys have everything from, uh, this fantastic grass fed intestines with tripe, which has quite a few good things in it. The gelatinous parts provide concentrated amounts of connective tissue, undenatured collagen, probiotics, and other gut-specific proteins that are now absent from the modern diet. That's direct from them.
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Starting point is 00:11:07 All right. There's a little clappy. We are on for the solo cast. I've taken some notes. I've tried my best to gather myself here. I had a lot to talk about. I want to make sure I don't miss anything. It's always hard when you don't have someone in front of you to kind of pitch back and forth. And let me just set the stage here. I think Wolf's about three weeks old right now. So, you know, I've spoken about this on other intros and things like that. If I fumble around and mess up some words, just know that the language recall and the full faculties of my brain are not quite there at this point. It doesn't mean that I haven't thought about the things that I'm going
Starting point is 00:11:50 to tell you about and that I haven't wanted to have this podcast for a while. It just means that I may not execute it at 100%. In addition to that, I'm sitting in my backyard right now. It's going to be another hot, beautiful summer day here in Austin. I have a wind chime you may have heard going off in the intro. As the wind picks up, you might hear it in my microphone. So some things you may not be accustomed to on a normal podcast, please bear with me. You may hear my son walk out and say, Daddy, I need this. And I'll say, Buddy, give me a minute.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You may hear an airplane go off. You may hear birds chirping. That's all a part of the deal for this podcast. And I hope that you can bear with me on that. Let's just talk elephant in the room right now. So as I mentioned in the intro here, in March when quarantine happened, there's a lot of stuff going on. Many of us have kids in school and it was like, oh, all right. You know, I was camping with Bear and we're on the camping trip. We hear about stuff starting to get shut down. And like, I've never, I don't think anybody's ever heard of something this crazy
Starting point is 00:13:01 that we would actually close everything and try to hide from nature when it comes to this. And yet on our final day of camping, we got kicked out. Texas Parks and Rec officially shut down. They said, everybody's got to go home or refund your last day. And we got kicked out a day early and it was like, oh, all right, well, it's probably a good thing. I can head home. Tasha's pregnant and maybe this is a big deal. And it went from a one-week spring break to two weeks to, I don't think they're going back to school for the remainder of the year, to I don't think they're going back to school even at the start of the year. So all the way through the end of 2020. And even though it looked like they were going to start classes again in August, I think the city of Austin just said recently that they will not start in class. They're going to have
Starting point is 00:13:51 different things like 10 kids at a time or rotation or different, depending which school they're at. So we basically pulled Bear from school for the year. He was just going to repeat kindergarten. I'm going to have Rob Wolf on the podcast here talking about his new book, Sacred Cow, which is phenomenal. He wrote with Diana Rogers, and he's homeschooling. I know Ben Greenfield was homeschooled and is homeschooling. There's a lot there. I just don't feel that Zoom calls is a sufficient replacement for what a kid would gain in the company of others. Certainly at the age, you know, this is age specific for Bear, but something Rudolf Steiner talked about who invented Waldorf was
Starting point is 00:14:30 it's less about filling their brain with stuff to learn as it is about giving them interactions with other children, learning for them to learn how to interact with one another. Um, and for them to really start to gain a sense of self and spatial awareness, boundaries, um, and interactions, how to make friends, all those things. And then, you know, fine motor skills, gross motor skills, uh, crafts, the art of listening to, uh, stories and telling stories. And then, yeah, maybe you practice spelling out the letters of the alphabet or stuff like that. So again, none of that's accomplished through Zoom.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I don't think so. If my kid was in high school and he had to finish his high school through Zoom, like most parents are in that situation right now with high schoolers, that's just something you got to do. And I certainly feel for those there because high school is hard enough, uh, without, you know, imagine if, if for all of us that are older, if not only did you have to finish all your damn
Starting point is 00:15:36 high school and your homework, but you didn't get the luxury of getting to hang out with friends and getting outside of your home and getting recess and whatever it is, the hangout sessions that made high school fun, at least for me. I lived for in-between classes when I could actually talk with friends and socialize. And with that gone, there's no doubt that there's a great deal of stress being put on kids right now. There's a great deal of stress being put on everyone in every single sector of the world right now. And that can't be overstated. I think that's something that we really need to conceptualize in terms of what decisions are being made about how to go about this. I will say a couple of things here because if I look on social media, which is not a great place to look on, and it's one of the reasons I got off and then with quarantine got back on with Tosh just because it's the fastest way to talk to people.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But there is a lot of virtue signaling out there and there's camps forming and the pendulum swings far to the left and far to the right and politically and non-politically as well. We're here in duality. This is a, and we're experiencing very polarized opinions on all sides of the equation. So, you know, what I'm going to talk about here, I will, I will qualify not with links to research. You will find that in the show notes of the podcasts that I have, that I'll provide here. First and foremost, Tony Robbins did an excellent podcast. Now, think what you want about Tony Robbins, but his degree of fame and pull is undeniable. He's very well known all over the world. He's got a huge name. And with that, like Tim Ferriss, he has access to people that you want to hear from when it comes to this stuff. And I believe he did a three or
Starting point is 00:17:31 four part series on COVID-19 maybe a month or two ago. It's his third episode on COVID-19. He has a panel of six or seven doctors, two of which did the most recent study on COVID-19 out of Stanford. One is the medical doc. They're all medical doctors. One is a medical doctor who I think is a Senator of Minnesota and one from the Cleveland clinic. You know, he has the who's who that are looking at this, that are not a part of the world health organization. And I'm not going to get into conspiracy theories and stuff like that on this
Starting point is 00:18:03 podcast, at least not yet. Still waiting to see what pans out with that. I will say it is a bit fishy. Bill Gates' funding of a lot of these companies that are producing the vaccine that'll save us his demands for global vaccination, but more importantly than that, global, like a global passport, a wearable, that seems, it doesn't fucking seem right. It doesn't sit well with me. You know, it seems very odd and maybe not nefarious. Maybe it is just money driven. I'm not sure. You know, I'm not sure. So that's the most I'm going to comment about that. But what Tony Robbins gets into, and again, he's not, he doesn't barbecue Fauci or any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:46 He's actually playing it right down the middle. Some of the doctors that are on there barbecue Fauci for his lack of understanding and all this. But I think, you know, I'm going to link to this in the show notes because I want people to listen to it. And I want people to let me know what they think. This is not from me. This is from the medical doctors. One thing they all agree on is that even an N95 mask will not stop COVID-19. That may be shocking to some of you. I'm not in the no mask camp. And I'll tell you why that, why that, I'll tell you why that,
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'll tell you what the reason for that is. Much like in ceremony. uh, you know, I talked about this with my heroic LSD experience in Sedona, wrong set and setting could have been fine medicine and a safer in the appearance of a safer place, even though I was completely safe there, I didn't feel safe. So in ceremony and in life, the appearance of safety is often more important than safety itself. Now, that's not true in an automobile, and it's not true in a lot of areas of life, but if I'm not going to die and I want to just feel safe, that's going to let me operate better. So, in a ceremony, if I had felt safe, odds are it's a much more pleasant experience. That may just be having a sitter with me. It may be being in a place that's less public. When it comes to the mask not working, does that mean that
Starting point is 00:20:12 I don't wear masks? No, because I want other people to feel safe, even though it's total bullshit. I don't want the old guy next to me in Whole Foods. Now, of course, it's by law that I have to wear the mask now. But even before that, I don't want people to look at me and think, what the fuck's wrong with this guy? And why is he jeopardizing my health? Even though whatever they're wearing, whether it's a bandana, which certainly doesn't protect anything. Paul Saladino talked about this on the podcast. And every one of these doctors talks about this. What they say is the size is measured in microns. And the size of the virus, COVID-19, is smaller than what an N95 mask guarantees to protect against. So the very best mask, which I don't see anyone wearing, still doesn't protect you against it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Odds are, I mean, let me explain something else here too. We had a big storm come in, a dust storm come in from Africa and made its way all the way through Texas. It was here for two weeks. You can look it up online. The Saharan dust blew over the Atlantic through the Gulf, all the way from Florida to Texas. And for two weeks, we had a cloudy haze of dust from Africa here in Texas. The air in an airborne, airborne viruses are airborne and that COVID-19 is airborne. It's not just waterborne. It doesn't just get exchanged from sneezes.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's in the air. It has circulated around the globe multiple times already. So, think about that. Odds are you have been exposed to this already. And something Paul Saladino brings up and one of the doctors on Tony Robbins podcast is that one of the things, you know, in the media and in all the discussions around this, we're talking about, we're looking at what's happening to those who get COVID-19. And they look at the USS Princess, which was a cruise ship. And if you've heard this already, my apologies if you listen to Paul Celadino,
Starting point is 00:22:20 but it's worth reiterating. On the Princess, they were quarantined to the ship, but they were not quarantined to their rooms. This is critical. They were allowed to roam about on the ship. So basically they were in one giant Petri dish with recycled air and children. Dr. Zach Bush talked about this on the podcast. Children are the best carrier of disease outside of dogs. They're touching things. They're putting their hands in their mouth. They're running around all over the ship. So when they looked at all the people that had tested positive,
Starting point is 00:22:53 same stats as everywhere else, 60% asymptomatic. 60% had zero symptoms. Over half the people who test positive for this are asymptomatic. No issues at all. 20% mild symptoms, 20% moderate to severe with a fraction dying. And the thing that Paul Saladino brings up, which is absolutely brilliant and necessary in the part of this discussion is that on that ship, you have to imagine that even though only a certain percentage of people on the ship contracted COVID-19 and tested positive for it, it had to be 95 to 100% of the people on that ship
Starting point is 00:23:32 were exposed to it. The exposure rate. So let that sit in. If dust from the Saharan desert can float halfway across the world and land and hang out overhead for two weeks in Austin, Texas, that virus has spread all the way around the world. If you're looking back from March until now, there is no question it's moved around. There is no question we've been exposed to it. So what constitutes someone contracting this and someone not? Why did only a certain of people test positive if the test works? And that's also debatable too. But if we factor, if we just,
Starting point is 00:24:13 if we just play along with the idea that the test is perfect, why do some people get it and some people do not? Well, it's the same reason why I don't get the flu each year. Is the flu here each year? It's here every single year and it changes and there's different forms of the flu reason why I don't get the flu each year. Is the flu here each year? It's here every single year and it changes and there's different forms of the flu and I don't get the flu. My wife doesn't get the flu. Bear doesn't get the flu. Why is that? Well, the reason for that is our immune systems are doing their job. We are healthy people. It is not guaranteed if a sick kid runs up to you and sneezes in your face right as you're taking a deep breath in or yawning that you get sick. Why is not guaranteed if a sick kid runs up to you and sneezes in your face, right as you're taking a deep breath in or yawning, that you get sick. Why is that? That's
Starting point is 00:24:50 the immune system doing its job. So, you can be exposed to this and no matter what the media hypes about it, you may not ever get it. You may not ever get it and that could be dependent upon having a good immune system. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's just not going to pass that easily. That's just a question that I want you guys to ponder. Think about that stuff talking about how, hey, this thing only survives in the cold. Next winter, we may need to do another lockdown. And Austin was one of the fastest cities to have a resurgence this summer. And everything shut down again in nature. Another problem that I'm going to bring up here in a second. But at the same time, California that did not open up all businesses and go willy-nilly like we did here in the South,
Starting point is 00:25:47 they experienced a huge resurgence as well in the summertime. So again, lots to figure out here. I don't think I have anything fucking sorted with 100% certainty, but I do think the experts on Tony Robbins' podcast really lay it out there, and they talk quite a bit about the economy. They talk quite a bit about, do we work or do we not work? What are the implications
Starting point is 00:26:09 if we shut down everything again? What are the lasting repercussions of having shut down for as long as we did? We've seen huge spikes in suicide. We've seen huge spikes in depression. We've seen huge spikes in alcohol and cigarette consumption. So when we think of tools, this is something I talk a lot about on this podcast. I talked a great deal about on the solo podcast and my battling through depression in college. I didn't have tools then. My tools were pharmaceutical drugs. My tools were recreational drugs and my tools were recreational drugs, and my tools were alcohol. Didn't know a thing about breath work, didn't know a thing about meditation, didn't have a cold tub, didn't have a yoga practice, didn't know the power of nature,
Starting point is 00:26:54 didn't know any of those things, and had no exposure to plant medicine either. So really, my tools were lacking. If you look across the globe right now and you think of what are people's tools, they're not great. And if you're listening to this podcast, hopefully you've gained some tools. And hopefully, and I'm not saying from me in an egoic way, I'm saying hopefully some of the people that I've had on this podcast have given you tools. Hopefully you have been led to their podcasts as well, like Paul Chex, or we have Rob Wilson and Brian McKenzie on from The Art of Breath. They have a fantastic way to improve CO2 retention and how to shift neurochemistry through breath work. Phenomenal guys, really important tools there. So I guess all this stuff to say, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:45 mask versus no mask, you know, I see people, celebrities posting photos in masks, talking about how important it is. I see other people saying, you know, no, this kills you, or it's my right to not wear a mask. And it's like, I think we're kind of missing the point. It doesn't bother me to have to wear a mask if it helps people feel safe and think that they're, I mean, in an uncertain world, if it makes them feel better. But if you listen to health professionals and you understand that this isn't stopping it, then it's like, that has to be a part of the conversation too.
Starting point is 00:28:22 That's just it. I don't mind wearing the mask, but that has to be a part of the conversation too. That's just it. You know, I don't, I don't mind wearing the mask, but that has to be a part of the conversation. Work versus no work. Huge, huge, huge part of the conversation. And Tony being a finance guy really, really outlines that well. So again, I will link to everything in the show notes. I promise you on that. I know I didn't link to the Calendia. I'll link to that in this one when I talked with Paul Austin. But all that's there and it is nuanced. It's not black and white as many things are in the world. That's ever present right now. The thing that nobody's talking about that we need to talk about health. Saladino brought this up. Health, metabolic health is a big one. You've heard me talk about this with shit just about with everybody
Starting point is 00:29:06 who has anything to do with diet. Rob Wolf, Paul Saladino, the carnivore doc, Mark Sisson, who else? Dr. Don McDeagostino, who is one of the leading researchers on ketogenic diets. A big issue with people in the world is metabolic health.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And what that means is you don't process food well because you've eaten like shit your whole life or for a long period of time. And this isn't pointing at anybody. It's not, I mean, again, I want to give you tools. This is what's wrong with the world and blah, blah, blah. I'd say, hey, this is where we're at. Where we're at is we have obesity on a very sharp incline going up and childhood obesity as well. And with that, less ability to tolerate carbohydrates,
Starting point is 00:29:56 less ability to tolerate blood sugar management, diabetes is on the rise, inflammation is on the rise, which could be the root of most or all diseases. Heart health is an issue, right? What's the, I always think of this in the movie Zombieland. What's the first rule in Zombieland? Cardio, cardio, cardio, cardio. And I think you will fare a lot better if you contract COVID-19, if you have good cardio and a good ticker. It doesn't mean you're going to outrun this thing. It doesn't mean you won't get it, but it just means your odds of survival are
Starting point is 00:30:28 probably higher if you're healthier. That is true of any disease. And, you know, that is something that Paul Saladino and I really dive into in our latest one. So again, we'll link to that in the show notes. Strength training. Again, I don't think, you know, in the debate versus cardio versus strength, if you had to choose one, it would be strength training. There is no doubt about it because that is a form of cardio. Paul check talks about this till he's blue in the face. Uh, there's entire books written about it. There's a neurosurgeon forget his name, but he wrote the book get serious where he really details the science behind strength and conditioning as a form of cardio that strengthens not only the heart, but bone density, which is huge. Um, and, um, resets your ability to tolerate carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Uh, insulin resistance goes down. All of these things happen through strength and conditioning, but specifically strength training will help you the most. So if you're limited schedule, um, you know, there's tons of resources online on at six, even though I don't work, there is still one of the best body weight programs ever created by my boy, John Wolf. Um, that's available at on it.com. And of course, gyms are available open back again. Now, you know, I would wear a loose fitting bandana or, you know, one of the things you kind of Rogan talks about that. One of the things you wear hunting or skiing, you can just pull up over your ears and your nose as opposed to a plastic mask. I'm not sure that plastic is leaking, but if plastic can leak in water bottles and you're reusing one of these flimsy one-time only masks, just spend $10 on Amazon and get yourself a reusable and wash it. Wash it because that is holding on to food particles, breath, and whatever else is
Starting point is 00:32:05 in the air. So wash your mask, that kind of stuff, and work out. Sunlight. Matt Maruca was on the podcast. He took a deep dive into sunlight through Dr. Jack Cruz's work and the benefits of it. And there is a minimum effective dose for everybody. That will vary. And you can go too far. There could be too much sun exposure the way I could squat too much and hurt myself or overtrain and through overtraining, hurt myself through injury or through running the same way for many, many, many miles, get repetitive stress injury, right? So it's not to say that the one size fits all with sunlight, but we all need sunlight. And vitamin D is really acting like a hormone. It's not even acting as a vitamin in the body. It has the ability to switch
Starting point is 00:32:53 on positively 500 different on-off switches on an epigenetic level. And it is one of the most critical pieces to the equation of health. And yet we are, as a society, vitamin D deficient. That's an issue. Supplement with it if you need to, but really getting outside, getting barefoot, getting sunlight will improve your health. And if you're working out outside, even better. Breathing fresh air, getting sunlight exposure to the degree that you can handle will be good. Outside of that, food. Food is a whopper. It's different for everyone, right? I've had vegans on the show. I've had keto experts on the show, paleo experts, everyone in between. If there's anything that's conclusive when it comes to food, I think bioavailability
Starting point is 00:33:42 is a very important part of the conversation. And I think very, very few people on this planet can sustain a vegan diet long-term and remain healthy and robust. That said, I have seen them. Darren Olin's been on this podcast. He is vegan. He's also having superfood shakes and supplementing with a high degree of very, very nutrition, nutrient-dense foods, and his genetics welcome that. My genetics do not. My wife's genetics do not. We need vitamin A from animals that must come from yolk or organ meat. Egg yolk and organ meat are the only way we
Starting point is 00:34:18 get usable forms of vitamin A. Cannot take beta carotene from carrots and sweet potatoes and convert that. Vitamin A is a fat-soluble vitamin that's really important for the immune system and cell replication. So that's important. We don't methylate well. So where do I get methylated B vitamins if I'm not taking a supplement? I get it from organ meats. Liver specifically has a high amount of them.
Starting point is 00:34:40 There's lots of reasons to eat organ meats. And I think that's one of the reasons why so many of you are purchasing from ancestral supplements.com is because the fact that you know, you need this and you're not going to eat it. Uh, I still eat it. There's a bell Campo has a really good organ ground organ meat mixed with burger that you can make patties with, or, you know, anything you want to do. Um, maybe you heard me talk about, you got some Meats, grass-fed beef liverwurst, which comes
Starting point is 00:35:06 pre-cooked. That's awesome. They're not a sponsor, but just an awesome product. So there are ways to get in organs that will taste better than just eating them the way a Ben Greenfield or a Paul Saladino might. Supplements, again, vitamin D3 is going to be at the top of the list. I don't know if vitamin C is going to do anything for immune system or not. Zinc appears to work. Obviously, there are better ways to get zinc in. One of the best ways that I found to get zinc is through lozenges. Life Extension, I believe, is the name of the company.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Not a sponsor. They have a blue and white label product. It's like a horse pill. You stick it in your gums and it goes in slowly. It might take an hour to dissolve. Not a fun process. It's huge. You look like an idiot with it in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But if you're wearing a mask, no one will see. Because it's slow released and in through the gums, I find that to be one of the most effective ways to boost my immune system. But truthfully, all of this stuff that I'm talking about here is external, right? The external forces of how I connect to the earth in water or barefoot in the grass, how I connect to the sun with the least amount of clothes on, full sun exposure from the human body's solar panels. Those are all external factors. What are the internal factors that absolutely matter? Another sip of coffee here before we get internal. There are several internal factors that matter. Sleep, number one, absolutely number one, when it comes to immune system, fat loss, memory
Starting point is 00:36:46 consolidation, language recall, learning a new thing. Dr. Andrew Huberman, who's been on my podcast twice, was just on Rogan's. Absolutely love that podcast of him on Rogan's, and he's my boy. I'm going to have him back on the show at some point. He's doing great work. He's got a. I'm going to have him back on the show at some point. He's doing great work. He's got a lab at Stanford. He's studied everyone from David Goggins to many of the outliers in our military, as well as high-level athletes. And stress is one of the things they're studying. Also, how to get to sleep and what does sleep do? Well, from a learning standpoint and
Starting point is 00:37:22 neuroplasticity standpoint, sleep is where we make the neural connections concrete. So if you think about a dirt road that you've recently bulldozed and made available as a new lane, this is a new path. Sleep is where we add the asphalt to it and we actually turn it into a drivable road that we can drive quicker on. And better sleep and continued learning of the subject will take that from a single aid road
Starting point is 00:37:49 to an eight lane superhighway. And I love that analogy because it really shows us the importance of sleep in bringing whatever it is we're trying to accomplish to fruition. James Clear talked about this in Atomic Habits, but really didn't dive into the sleep aspect. Sleep is so critical when we're trying to rework things. And it is critical for our immune system.
Starting point is 00:38:14 If you are trying to go to sleep and your mind is racing, that means you have not pushed pause during the day. And something I've talked about before is how important it is. And I talked about this with Mark Bell. Anybody that I've talked COVID with, I've talked about this. Routine is important for all of us, not just kids and not just the elderly. Routine is important for all people, all humans. And it's really important that we push pause.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So in the book, Quantum Spirituality by Amit Goswami, PhD, he dives into the idea that we are in the West constantly in a state of do, do, do, do, do. And he's recommending that we find the new song, Doobie Doobie Do. And the state of being can be expressed in many ways. It can be expressed through meditation, yoga, anywhere we get out of our mind and into our body, or out of our mind, into our heart, out of our mind, into our gut, into our intuition. Anytime we shut off the constant chatter of the thinking mind, the problem solving, fixing, the rabbit hole, if you will. And so it doesn't just need to be meditation. I only meditate once a day.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But there's other ways to get into a state of being. Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche calls this meditation in action. If I can get out of my head while I mow the lawn, I'm effectively meditating while I mow the lawn. I can get into my ice bath, which has been an absolute lifesaver in my backyard. And I'm in there. I'll only do one three to five minute session a day for the biggest training effect. But many times throughout the day, I'll get in there for a couple of minutes, do some breath work and just drop in to zero mind, zero space, connect back to my body
Starting point is 00:39:57 and find equilibrium. And the more I do, the better I am at doing if I trickle in being. So if I can find space in the day to push pause, what Amit says about this is that we are, you know, how do I word this? We're getting out of our conscious mind and dipping into what Jung called the unconscious or what he calls the super conscious. And if you look at Rupert Sheldrake's work on morphic resonance, perhaps, and maybe through plant medicines, you've experienced this, we are tapping into the greater knowing. We are tapping into the all consciousness, God consciousness, or we're just the collective consciousness of humanity or something that's greater than ourselves. At the very least, pushing pause gives me a break. So regardless of if that's true or not, and I believe it is, if that's not true, why does it still work? Well, it still works because I'm giving myself rest.
Starting point is 00:40:53 If I try to squat any number, any poundage, say 225 on the bar, and I say, I'm not going to rack the bar. I'm just going to squat as many reps as I can and M-wrap as many reps as possible, but I will not rack the bar. And I stand there with that weight, dead tired with my legs locked out until I can knock out another rep. And I keep doing that. I'm not going to get as many reps as if I actually rack the weight, relax for five minutes and go back to doing another set. The amount of reps that I can get accomplished if I'm taking rest in between, not only will they be better reps, but I will get more reps. The same is true for our mental faculties. If I'm trying to grind through a lot of stuff mentally and get a lot of work output done and quality work done, I will do better if I can effectively push pause, if I can effectively turn off.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And as Andrew Huberman talks about on Rogan's, it is that ability to turn off our solutions oriented mind that allows us to fall asleep. Sleep is a state of mind. And if we can switch into that state of mind throughout the day, it makes it a hell of a lot easier for us to do that in the evening. So all food for thought. Again, you could dive into that more if it, if it piques your interest at all. And now here talking about sleep and meditation and different practices of being. That is a segue into dad. The resurgence now having a second kid.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Lack of sleep. So how does one with, it seems, all the cards stacked against them. And against them, and I shouldn't say that about myself. I did not have all the cards stacked against me. How does one navigate with a lack of sleep and all the uncertainty that's going on externally, financially? Everyone's affected one way or another. I'm no different. So managing external stress, managing internal stress, and doing it all with a little less energy, all with a little less gas in the tank, it can be tricky. There's no doubt about it. But some of the things I just mentioned, the quality of my sleep
Starting point is 00:43:06 is really important. Even if it's only in two hour chunks or three hour chunks, I take sleep supplements. I've tried, I like from Onnit, New Mood and Melatonin Spray. Very good. Again, they don't sponsor. They're awesome. One of our sponsors, Sovereignty, they have a dream product with CBN, which is again, like CBG, but in reverse, a very calming anti-anxiety form that is incredibly relaxing and can put you to sleep. It's incredible. There's a guy coming on the show, Chervene. Um, I can't say his last name, right, but he is the creator of Symbiotica and he was recently on, uh, Paul Chex or actually back in the day, he was on Paul Chex show. That's how I first heard about him. They make great products.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They make great products and their sleep product roomy is phenomenal. It's got melatonin, a number of other things. Um, and that works too. So again, finding something that works for you, but most importantly, it doesn't matter how many supplements you take to shut down. You will be so much better at shifting into the state of sleep if you've ironed out the day before you lay in bed. If the first time you lay in bed, or if, let me reword this. I know I've said this a million times before, so forgive me for struggling with the words here.
Starting point is 00:44:30 If the first time you've been alone with your own thoughts and alone with yourself is when you lay in bed at night, that's an issue, right? You have to have some periods of reflection throughout the day. And I get that, I learned this from Mark Bell, even though I was already doing it. The 10 minute walk is so beneficial because you can do a walking meditation or a walking
Starting point is 00:44:48 contemplation, a walking reflection. And one of my favorite things to do, every morning we walk our dog, Bear and I do, and every evening we do the same. Sometimes I push Wolf in a stroller if it's not too hot out. But that's a great time for me to clear my head. It's a great time for me to reflect on the things that went well, the things that didn't go well. You know, I had to go for a walk before recording this podcast because I had to, I had to let
Starting point is 00:45:12 go of the fact that I didn't hit the number two button on my zoom recorder with Jeff Gonzalez. And hence there, that's why I have to rush to get this podcast out, even though I've been planning it and writing things down and it was going to release. Now we just flip flop the order, but to rerecord a podcast that I thought really did well, I had to let go of that. I had to reflect on that. And now I can move past it. Well, days are filled with things like that. And they're certainly filled with things like that when, um, you know, when we're not operating at our best. And that's certainly been the case for me. I filled up a cup of coffee and was getting ready to pour a little almond milk in
Starting point is 00:45:52 and knocked the whole cup over the other day. And it was just like, oh man, I have more coffee, but I gotta clean up this big ass mess and I never knock stuff over. I have knocked stuff over since I was probably in my teens. Like what's going on here? And it's just like, oh yeah. Can I give myself permission to make mistakes? And the sooner I get to a place where I can reset my breath, reset my mind and come into my calm, quiet center, the easier it is to move forward. And Eckhart Tolle talks about this in A New Earth. Again, I've mentioned it before,
Starting point is 00:46:30 but the difference between resistance and acceptance. We talked about this with Peter Krohn on the podcast. I think he, and I'll butcher this, but life always is only as it always is. Something to that effect. Life is always as it is and only always. It's always as it is. That's it. It is. That is the is-ness of our experience. So, the sooner I can move from resisting what is into accepting what is, the better. And in Eckhart's book, he talks about you're driving in a storm and you get a flat tire and it's pouring rain or it's a hail storm. And now you got to get out and change the tire. You can curse all you want, but at the end of the day, you still got to change the tire. So the sooner you move into acceptance, the better you feel, right? It's not that you enjoy changing
Starting point is 00:47:20 a tire in the snow. It's that this is what I got to do. It is the isness of the experience. So you say yes to it and you do it and you accept it. I say yes to, well, I got to clean this mess real quick. Then I can have my coffee. I say yes to shit. I got to embarrassingly write Jeff Gonzalez that I effed up and we got to try to redo this thing. And that's all okay. And from there, from acceptance, we have the ability to move into enjoyment where we really have joy in our experience and from enjoyment, enthusiasm and enthusiasm, as I've mentioned before, translates loosely to be in God, to be in God, enthusiasm. So that's, and we're not going to do everything enthusiastically in life, you know, but if we can shift at least from resistance to acceptance, we're better off.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And certainly the more often we can reflect upon our day and get to a place of acceptance prior to bed, much easier it is to fall asleep. So those are some hacks there when it comes to that. In terms of being a dad, you know, sleep has been the biggest issue for anyone with a newborn, I think. In addition to that, though, you know, I'm only a year older than my sister. And there was, you know, many pros and cons to that. If you have kids that are close in age, odds are they didn't have that big of a challenge when the second one was born because the first one was probably young.
Starting point is 00:48:49 So it's kind of like, oh yeah, the next kid's here. They haven't really lived a longer life of just me, only child syndrome. And that's not to shit on people who are only child. There we go. It's just to say that it's a little bit more shocking for kids that are older. Bear's five, and he's certainly had an uphill battle with this just because he has so much energy and we do not now. And it's hard for me to match him. The way that I was getting around that was getting him out to Barton Springs and in nature in Austin. And because it's scorching hot each day, we'd find some place that had water.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And of course, with the resurgence of COVID, them shutting that down has made it very interesting to try to navigate now. What do I do with a kid who has all the energy in the world and I I'm at half capacity, and nature's being shut down. The one thing that boosts our immune system and makes us feel equanimity and helps us feel whole and see the larger picture of all that is, is being taken away from us. All the parks and recs, no camping. And of course, our beautiful water supply, our place where we can get in the water. Interestingly enough, they allow people on the water on kayaks and stand-up paddle boards. So I go on Amazon and kayaks are sold out. Double kayaks are sold out.
Starting point is 00:50:15 They're sold out at Costco. They're sold out locally. Stand-up paddle boards for two of them are an investment. And even though I certainly want both stand uh, standup paddleboards and a kayak, um, it's a lot of cheese. So, uh, all food for thought there, you know, I'm still, still working with that. At least bear is down to get in the ice bath and run and play with me in our backyard. And, uh, you know, we go for bike rides and things like that, but it is interesting to me, um, the choices that are being made around that, you know, they don't want people gathering and all this. And it's like, that should be the single place we're allowed to be during anything
Starting point is 00:50:50 that compromises our health. Let us go to the healthiest places on earth. And while we're the most stressed, let us go to the places that provide the most stress relief on earth, our water supplies. You know, Wallace J. Nichols, who's on the podcast, talked about that in his book, Blue Mind. There is science that shows even viewing the ocean or viewing a body
Starting point is 00:51:13 of water, a lake, a river, a stream, it hits certain parts of our brain, survival mechanisms in our brain that let us know life is possible here and it's calming and it's palpable. You can feel it. And they've looked at this scientifically. They know it's true. Just looking at it, looking at green things, you know, thankfully Austin rains year round. So it's green year round, but looking at things that are green lets you know, life is possible here. There's an adequate water supply. Um, I think that's just critical. It's been critical possible here. There's an adequate water supply. I think that's just critical. It's been critical for us. It's been a way that has balanced my neurochemistry on a daily basis. And again, because I don't have that, the cold bath has been the biggest
Starting point is 00:51:57 saving grace out of anything in terms of how I'm able to not just get through each day, but how do I can enjoy each day? And working with Bear in a way that's more compassionate and patient with him, knowing that this is all, you know, like what Gabby Reese said that really stuck with me was when we look at our kids, no matter which phase they're in or which age they're at, we have a tendency to think like, I need to fix this. I need to change them because if they become an adult with these habits, whatever issues you don't want them to have in society, you don't want them to have bossiness, I don't know, fill in the blank, whatever behaviors you've deemed necessary to correct,
Starting point is 00:52:46 it's the reason we think of it as carrying so much weight is because we believe that that's how they're going to end up if we don't do something about it. And the truth is that's not the case. Truth is kids do go through phases. There are learning curves. There are things that every kid goes through. No kid wants to share when they're young. It's pretty rare. That's par for the course. And then over time, through either you helping to correct that or through society correcting that at school or other children saying like, no, we share, we do it this way. And it's more fun if we do it this way. They get to learn those things. Life lessons are given through the inner workings of your own kingdom, your own household, as well as the outer workings of the people your kids are around. And the same holds true for bad habits.
Starting point is 00:53:31 If your kids are around other kids that, you know, maybe are allowed to get away with whatever they want to get away with, they may pick up some bad habits there too. And that can be an excellent opportunity for you to correct those within your own children, or, you know, maybe you, you pull back on or be a little bit more selective around who they're around. So that's kind of where my head's at with, with bear. It, it hasn't been easy. Wolf has been awesome. She's been easy. And I shouldn't just say bear hasn't been easy. It's been great getting out into nature with him and great figuring out different ways to connect with him. Physically, like I said, teaching him to ride a bike was amazing. Teaching him how to swim now, amazing. We get out in the pool at a friend's house or go for bike rides, and it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun because we're very similar in that we enjoy activity, and it's a way for us to burn energy in nature
Starting point is 00:54:27 and connect and chat. And there's a softening that happens through that experience where we're just able to connect on a deeper level. He listens better, you know, and as a five-year-old who doesn't want to listen to anything, it's really nice when anything looks like it appears like it's getting through to them. So that's been challenging and awesome at the same time. Wolf has been challenging and awesome at the same time, not because of anything out of the ordinary with a newborn, but just because that's how it goes with newborns. She does sleep really well. She sleeps a lot during the day. So we try to get her outside to kind of reset the circadian rhythm. And that was the case when she was in the womb.
Starting point is 00:55:05 She was up at night kicking mom's belly and sleeping most of the day. So I think over time that'll correct. And it's been a wild experience thinking about bringing a life into the world during a time like this. Lots of uncertainty. Lots of uncertainty around everything, the economy, uh, what does the new world look like? What does, um, the reconciliation
Starting point is 00:55:36 of how this country was started, you know, from native Americans to African Americans to what is the most effective way to not only be inclusive but repair what is the best way to repair so many broken systems and I don't just mean with race that's obviously a big one but
Starting point is 00:56:04 I mean with the economy, I mean with education. How do we repair all of these things and bring them up to a point where we have the ability to foster a new world? And I think Charles Eisenstein, who is going to come on the podcast, hopefully in the next couple of months. Uh, and I, you've heard me mention his book many times. He has several that are great sacred, sacred economics, phenomenal, but the more beautiful world our hearts know as possible is one of my all time favorites. And, um, you know, he's thought a great deal about this stuff and everything in his book really rung true for me. So it'll be an absolute pleasure having him on the podcast. Highly recommend reading his book before you hear him on my podcast. But again, we have a lot of things that aren't up to par. A lot of things that we've kind of been
Starting point is 00:56:55 skating on thin ice with just pretending everything's fine. And one of the things that the pandemic has done is it's come to expose how shitty our health is, how unprepared our healthcare system is, and how triage is not helping anybody with preventative medicine. The care of what happens once you're sick, again, surgery is awesome. Oncology, not awesome. A lot of other things, not awesome. A lot of ways we try to heal the sick, not awesome. So how do we get to a place where at the forefront, we take responsibility for our own health. At the forefront, we take responsibility for what we put in our body and understand the connection of why that matters, not just from a aesthetic standpoint of do I have a six pack or not, but from a neurochemistry standpoint, from a gut chemistry standpoint, as Dr. Zach Bush outlines on our podcast, and I'll make a note to link to
Starting point is 00:57:57 him in the show notes. There's so much to consider and it is overwhelming. So I don't want to just throw, you know, throw the kitchen sink, but in my sleeplessness and having a lot to discuss and having not been able to really take a deep dive solo with you guys in a while, there's a lot here. So again, as I, as I let people know in my coaching and Fit for Service and privately, anytime I go at length on and on about something and try to give as many tools as possible, one of the ways that you can sort through that is simply to follow your own intuition
Starting point is 00:58:40 on what is the thing that you wish to learn right now. So again, if the mask thing is like ruffling feathers, check out the COVID-19 podcast, number three on Tony Robbins. Listen to the seven medical doctors he has on there. They get their opinions on it and the science behind it and see what you think about it then.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And still wear your mask so that you're not making other people freak out. The world's stressful enough. We can be kind. That is a way we're kind to others is to do that. And if you're worried about the mask hurting you, don't wear a polyurethane mask. You don't need to wear the blue plastic mask.
Starting point is 00:59:15 You can wear something that is better for you. An organic cloth bandana works just fine in terms of legality. Again, it's not going to stop COVID-19, but there are ways where you can satisfy the law and not hurt yourself. And of course, you know, really what all this means for our own health. Paul Cech's been on this podcast more than anyone else. One thing I love that he said, one of my favorite quotes all the time is sooner or later,
Starting point is 00:59:44 your health will become your number one concern. And I think more than ever now, we have the opportunity to see that hopefully prior to crisis, right? And you could call this whole thing a crisis, um, depending how you see it, but it is drawing our awareness to the fact that we're not healthy. It is drawing, it should be drawing our awareness to the fact that we're not healthy. It should be drawing our awareness to the fact that we're not treating the earth well and the earth is not healthy. And even though, again, there's so much conflicting data there, reading the book Sacred Cow by Rob Wolf and Diana Rogers
Starting point is 01:00:14 really outlines the way forward through regenerative agriculture and the necessity of ruminant animals. Carnivore Code by my man, Paul Saladino, same exact deal uh the science is undeniable when it comes to that and more importantly the health of the ecosystem is dependent on ruminants and the health of us for many of us is dependent upon really good um really good food really good food means eating meat it also means eating nose to tail and it
Starting point is 01:00:44 means eating organ meat so lots of that stuff stuff to dive into there. Again, there's, there's books here, but just let it sink in. Contemplate, go through, go for your walks, get out of your head, practice hitting that off switch, whatever that is. It could be in back squats. That's one of my favorites. If I lift something heavy, I'm not thinking about anything else. That's a way I push pause. Active meditation. Shooting a bow and arrow. Active meditation. Zen and the art of archery. All of these things actually work and they're active. And they're ways that we really can start to tap into ourselves on a deeper level, which will improve sleep, improve immunity, and improve many other factors outside of just looking at things from a physical standpoint of
Starting point is 01:01:28 health, mental, emotional health, and much more there. All right. Love you guys. Hope that is a decent solo cast here and an update on everything that I've been up to. If you're watching on YouTube and wondering why I've had this 45 degree angle camera, it's because i think better without a camera in my face and i'd much rather look at the bamboo in the flower garden and this uh incredible wachuma cactus thank you grandfather you've uh you've grown over 12 inches in less than six months which is about double a good year so clearly the wachuma here uh loves its spot in its home in our backyard.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And again, that's legal if you're wondering. So you grow your own Wachuma, grow a shit ton of it, just don't cultivate it, but have it there as a wonderful cactus variety. All right, guys, that's it. I'll link to everything in the show notes and we will see you in a week, hopefully with my dude, Jeff Gonzalez, former Navy SEAL and head of education over at the range. Thank you, guys.

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