Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #171 Chervin Jafarieh

Episode Date: September 14, 2020

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Jafariya. There it is. I'm not going to attempt it again uh awesome yeah i first heard you on living 40 with paul check and it's funny because i i trail really there's like three podcasts that i pay attention to that i that i try to nab the guests from one is rogan obviously and two uh living 40 with paulech, and three, my brother, Aubrey Marcus. So wherever, you know, those are my tracking devices outside of my own tracking of folks. And absolutely loved the podcast you guys did. You know, just fantastic.

And we're certainly going to get into Rumi and a lot of the masters that you've learned from. We'll probably get into Rumi right now. I mean, I always start this podcast with background. I like to know what it was like for people growing up. You're a first generation American, correct? That's correct. Yeah. Let's just jump in there.

Let's talk about your culture, where you come from, and maybe some of those differences growing up here stateside. Yeah, that was a very interesting perspective that I had. And thank you for wanting to get into the heritage aspect of it. I realized by the time I was, you know, four or five, from what I can remember that my parents are not from America, that they had immigrated from Iran in the mid to late 1970s. I was born in the 80s. And it was interesting because I was watching myself evolve as an American. English was primarily my first language. Farsi came second, just because I was in activities and around other families. And my family was really blending into the culture of Southern California. I grew up in La Jolla down in San Diego, just on the beach and didn't really think much of my culture until about five, six years old when I started seeing

more of it around me and started understanding that, wait a second, my bloodline, my people, we're coming from somewhere on the other side of the world. And there was a lot of things different in my household than all of my, you know, all my friends and everybody around us. And my parents had a really interesting accent. I was always like, you know, teasing with them, helping them with their English and stuff. And they loved it. And it was all part of just growing up. But, you know, what really stuck out for me was just the family culture, the unit of being together, loving on each other. I had a very, very much affectionate father. And my mother was so involved with my cognitive experience and my consciousness and my day-to-day and they were always passing on all these like different type of clues um the farsi language is is very very descriptive it's poetry in essence

and one word has a whole um alleyway of meanings and and depth that goes way broader than what we're experiencing through the english language the vernacular and the the way the english language works it's it's chopped up in bits and pieces and it's the sum of all the parts that give you kind of the message whereas in farsi one word is just enough to take you down a whole experience. And so when you roll in those different words together, you get a complete, you know, medicine ceremony almost. And so like, for example, hodathus, which is goodbye, literally translates over to, you know, make God watch over you till I see you next

and make sure he holds you tight in his like omnipresence. That's just how we say goodbye to each other. Now we take that for granted, but it just shows you the depth of the language. And that language was so critical in developing the culture of the Iranian culture, which comes from the Persian empire. And so I, I had that unique opportunity to see life through both lenses, being first generation Persian American and seeing the American culture and the beauties of the American culture, because there's so much there that a lot of people take for granted saying, America does not really have culture, especially in places like Southern California and stuff like that. But I saw that culture. I saw the ambition and the passion and some of those things.

And I took some of those things while mixing it with the Persian culture, which is about family, which is about education, which is about responsibility and all those things. And I don't know if you have any Persian friends, but a lot of them are, you know, everyone's just very savvy in their approach. And they really want to get between the lines and they're not there to just get the broad strokes. And so I had that.

I was fortunate to be able to experience both at such an early age and intertwine them in the alchemy of my self-development and be cognitive of it too. Like I was present during that whole experience. I didn't just, I wasn't just in the motions, which was very, very unique that when I go and look back at my experience and also meeting friends, parents that wanted to learn more about the Persian culture, and I would do my best trying to teach them. Um, but it was, uh, it was a very, uh, eyeopening experience. It took me into politics, understanding why my family was in America in the first place and why they didn't go back to Iran. As you know, there was the revolution that happened in Iran and, um, you know, started going down those different pathways

that, you know, you don't really learn from mainstream media and started learning like really what was controlling the narrative of you know these wars and um the provocation for war and why so many countries have been stripped of their dignity in the modern world and so um I got became very passionate about that. And that drove me to becoming what we call today a truther, you know, and so it was a combination of my heritage, you know, my bleeding heart for my country. And then also, you know, some of the mentorships that happened at such an early age. That's beautiful. Yeah, I want to tell I love the the concept there on culture, because I on culture because I did have Persian friends. I grew up on the West Coast in the Bay Area, just north of you guys.

And it's pretty, obviously, I think mostly through the West Coast, it's fairly diverse. But culture is an interesting thing. I remember the first time I went to the East Coast and there's all these older buildings there and they're old by American standards, but they're not old. You know, they're like, it's like, wow, you know, this is so old and everything's new on the West coast, you know? And I think that's, maybe there's less, uh, tradition and certainly, you know, the United States is, it's not a melting bowl, but it's, or a melting pot, but like a salad bowl, right? Like every, you know, it's or a melting pot but like a salad bowl right like every you know it's all it's all you know tossed together but it's still its own individual parts very much so um whereas you

know you go anywhere in europe and east and it's it's very much has tradition it very much has um purpose and and a feel to the culture that you're in and a feel to the land that you're on. And certainly, you know, like my first time in Europe, I was like, Oh,

this is, these are old buildings, you know, like even walking through Southern Netherlands on cobblestone and seeing the architecture. I'm like, these are, some of these are over a thousand years old.

Like, this is just like a whole, whole different thing. You know, like back a thousand years ago, you would have foundps and broad broad you know all all of it was nature you know there was very much uh it was very undenatured here in the americas you know we've been stripped of it all we've been stripped of it all at least here in north america and also some other areas where the indigenous isn't ruling right so it is a melting pot and then

within that melting pot you have different classifications of economic status socioeconomic class and cultural divide especially in california i mean you look at california like some of the areas it's just it's just you know um armenians it's just uh chinese it's just taiwanese it's just vietnamese it's all like kind of spread out like that and because it's all a culture clash and stuff like that you don't have rooted culture you go some places like in the south that's been around for a couple hundred years and you can start maybe feeling some of that culture starting to grow and they've created like that entity and you're you're right you know we know, we go to Europe or places like South America or places like Asia, you know, places like that haven't,

that the bloodline is in the region that they're from there. It's indigenous to that. You walk into it and it's magnetic. You can feel the pulse of it. It's a very strong, you know? And so, um, I feel that on a grand scale, whenever I'm traveling and that's the main thing I want to do when I travel is I want to, I want to soak that in as you did. Yeah, no doubt. Um, and it's palpable. I think Henry Rollins talked about that, how important travel is to change perspective, you know, and it's not just get out of your bubble or your comfort zone or your small town. I mean, uh, anywhere you live can become a small town. You know,

I know plenty of people in LA that just stay on the West side. Like that's their spot. It's too, it's too, it takes too long to get anywhere else. So, you know, Oh, you're in Hollywood. Sorry, man, I can't meet you today. You know, like that kind of thing. And that becomes their little bubble, you know, and it doesn't mean I'm, all my friends travel. So I'm not saying that about them, but we do make whatever space we have, you know, kind of a tight knit container. And that's cool for a sense of community, but it doesn't necessarily broaden us.

And so I think, you know, one thing that stuck out to me as you were talking to Paul was the fact that your parents would listen to music that were the poems of Rumi turned into song form. Just like, imagine that, like if anybody's experienced, you know, Rumi's love and wisdom and understanding of God, like in the way that it's worded, you're just, and of course, some things are lost in translation. Not necessarily in your case. In my case, for sure. Think of the Bible. Like there's no doubt things are lost in translation, but still there's so much of his medicine that gets through. And so to have that as a child, just kind of trickled in as background noise.

What a blessing. Like, I just think of that as like such a vast difference from, you know, I mean, I had Elton John, I had some really good artists that I listened to, but not quite the same, you know? Right. Well, I appreciate you saying that. I mean, I grew up with an eclectic household of music and expression and art. I played piano for 20 years. And so I was kind of thrown into the mix of the frequencies of music and the energies of it,

which was really profound. And I tell that to all my friends that are having children, get your kids involved with music, have them choose what they like, let them flow with that sound and frequency, because that harmonic is so much beyond the audio file of the year. You know, it's really tuning in the creative center and the actual algorithms of how our genomic sequence are unfolding and which genes are expressing and which genes are turning on which ones are turning off these things are so important for you know just on a forget about the cosmic just the epigenetic factor of understanding how the human body works and that evolution process of developing as a child into um you

know intermediary and then ultimately as an adult and so yes i i had that and i think or not i think i don't i don't like that i know what it's done for me and how it evolved me at an early age to be able to see beyond the common five senses and it set me up to perfection on my later you know forms of education when I went into Steiner's work and into biodynamics and stuff like that, because they're all coming from the same place, which is a creative state. We can get into that. Most of the biohackers now call it the flow state. So for me, it's getting into a place of grounded meditation that's actually allowing you to form thought as opposed to just being in a dream state and tangible accessible information that we can then use and integrate

with our dharma with our life's mission with what we're here to do and that's really what Rumi was about I mean Rumi ultimately if you take the thousands and thousands and thousands of poetry, the Sufi aspect of his poetry, and integrate it into our modern mechanistic world, it's ultimately, how do you separate the bad voice in your head, which is telling you you can't, based on programs that you've picked up over the years, programs that you've picked up from other energies, and allow yourself to just freely deep dive into the infinite, into the limitless ability. And it's interesting because to get onto Steiner, Steiner's philosophy of freedom was not about how do we become free from a tyranny government, from a black shadow state, from all of this stuff that you're seeing

all over social media and the big monster corporatocracies. But how do we get free inside of us? How do we actually get free? What does freedom actually look like in our own consciousness? And that's really where the combination of Rumi and my own Persian DNA and my father and the people around me that opened me up. And it allowed me to be sovereign at such an early age, almost to the point where I was uncoachable. And I, I, my dad would, he saved all of the letters that all my teachers and coaches would write the authority or the president of the leagues. I was big in athletics growing up, and I'm pretty sure the same as you. And I just couldn't be coached by a coach that was structured and didn't see the players. And I couldn't be taught by a teacher that was structured and didn't see the students.

And this is before getting mentored by my cousin, David. This is before that. I'm talking age seven, eight, nine, 10. I couldn't take it. And I did pair up with amazing coaches and amazing teachers that flowed with the children, that allowed them to express, allowed them to be in their full expression and experience. But it just goes to show that that ingrained into my cosmic flow. And it's part of my human design as well. You know, this is almost a genetic thing as well. I mean, I was, I incarnated as the investigator, anarchist, and martyr. and it makes total sense and to be able to have a and you as a father and having children um i would always say you know create a beautiful incubation for your kids but but do not create an indoctrination or forced curriculum and that's another waldorf

application and that's how i approach everything that I do in my life today. There is no set structure. And that's another, that's a Carl Jung thing too. You know, it's, there's no structure. It's only, um,

you know, a flow state that can take, take us to where we want to go. Dude. I don't know if you saw me looking down here. I'm, I'm taking several notes here of things I want to talk about and then no particular order,

but sure. Thank you. I get up on my tangents. I get up on my tangents sometimes because that's what it really is. It's like, it's the most beautiful way to do it though. You know, so I'm not, I'm not going to interrupt any of those, but I am going to circle back to quite a few things here. You know, it's funny because I think I mirrored you in many ways. You know, I was uncoachable. In fact, my father always told me that, and I just had this conversation with him because I have to think about this with Bear, mirrored you in many ways. You know, I was uncoachable. In fact, my father always told me, and I just had this conversation with him because I have to think about this with Bear,

you know, who's five years old now and also not coachable, you know? And so I'm thinking about this, like how difficult it was for people to get through to me. And it wasn't until I was 18, I was playing junior college football and I got benched halfway through the season. And I, without question, was the best defensive lineman on the team, possibly the best player on the defense. And any of my old teammates can argue with me about that if they want. But the coach said, it's not that you're not good enough. It's that you're not coachable. And if you're not coachable, you're going to sit and learn how to be coachable. And so he sat me on the bench for the second half of the season. He said, maybe next year you'll get a change of attitude and you'll get to play. So, of course, being uncoachable, I left the team after that season and went to a different team.

But that really struck a chord with me. It was one of the deep lessons that, you know, we all have to learn through any means and experience is the best teacher. But I think I'm bringing this up because what I was rebelling against was the things that seemed off. It was what I saw wrong in the world. I think as you were rebelling, it was because you knew what the good was. You had this internal knowing because of your upbringing of what it should look like. So if somebody's looking at you as here you go, one size fits all, I don't see you. I see you as one of the masses that didn't resonate with you. Right. And I can count on one hand, how many teachers from grade school through college really took me under their wing and saw me as an individual. And I aced every single thing

that had, and I took every course they had to offer right because of that because I felt seen all the other classes all the other teachers all the other coaches um I really had a tough time with you know I mean I had I had you know people talk about players coaches versus you know kind of the the hard-ass military style uh I never did well if it wasn't a player's coach if it wasn't somebody that would say like, hey, this is what you're doing good, but here's how we can do it better, you know, and kind of offer that positive reinforcement. But I just wanted to point that out because there's so much right now. And again, as things get polarized, education is a big one. And I am fully cognizant of the fact that most people can't afford private school. I went to public school. I would sell one of my cars to make sure I can keep bear in Waldorf or a Waldorf style school because I believe in it

and I understand it. And I know I can see the impact he's having and knowing he is, you know, cut from the same cloth that I am, he's not going to do well in public school. And I don't want him up against that. So, and even homeschooling, youing, if it came down to it, we would have to do that. And there's nothing wrong with that. My wife was homeschooled until high school. But yeah, I just want to point that out. And I definitely want to dive more into Steiner, certainly more in Rumi. You brought up sound.

Respect, by the way. Respect. Yeah, much appreciation and respect for the experience and the awareness and that you are going to that length to make sure that your children are given that opportunity to become free sovereign beings as opposed to being forced on a curriculum and most of those teachers that you're talking about that did not make your one hand um you know, they're just part of the program. And they've been beaten up. They've, you know, they've been put in the system.

They're tired. They're not expressing what they want to express. So how are they going to be able to treat a child that they see, you know, once a year that, you know, keeps going by different cycles of kids. The whole system is not bred. It's not that teacher's fault, right? It's the system. The system needs to be dismantled and we have to have a new philosophy on how we're raising children on all levels

from how a mother's carrying in the womb to even looking at how babies are created with the porn industry, understanding how we're birthing children, how we're raising, the whole thing. I mean, I've gone so deep in that. That was part of my training and studying for a long time was understanding the cosmic development of child

from the thought of a man and woman linking up together to the cosmic alchemy of creating a child to the raising in the womb, that whole thing. There's so much to it. There's so many rabbit holes to go down. And if you look at how we're doing it today on a populist level, on the overall, it's completely the opposite. Yeah, 95 plus percent of this is procedure, thoughtless.

People really just through our own loss of connection to source we don't understand that that child understands exactly what's going on it feels all the emotions mom feels it can hear your voice it knows who you are before it comes out i mean we just did i definitely want to talk about human design here so don't let me forget it uh we just did bears human design and we have wolves coming up later today. Yeah, there's a, there's an excellent teacher. I want to give a shout out to John Cole and I'll link his email in the show notes if anybody wants to get this done for themselves or their children. But you talked about sound and this tuning fork, and I can't help but think about it right now too, because of the fact that, you know, as that, that fetus develops,

it is sensing through waveform, particle form and through vibration. Right. And so like before it even has ears to hear, we're playing singing bowls, Tibetan singing bowls over the belly. We're, we're, we're toning, we're chanting, we're oming, we're giving that sound vibration of healing energy to let it develop and construct even on a physical level down to the genetics itself in its purest form. And people, I think that shit's hocus pocus but it's not it really isn't

it's just a forgotten understanding of the importance that that the second you are and this isn't to say like look you know if if uh if someone is in need or is raped or any of these things like abortion like i'm going to leave that argument off the table. But what I'm saying is if you say yes to raising a child, understand the second that that baby starts growing, you have an impact on it through the food that you eat, through the stressors that you feel, through the amount of sleep that you get, through the sunlight, through all of it. All of it matters. Right. And thinking about that sound like sound is such an interesting piece. And I've been reading this book that Paul recommended to me called Stalking the Wild Pendulum by Ishtak Bentov. It's on the nature of consciousness. And he talks about this frequency pattern that we have of sound, all things being wave or particle form. And just as we can only see a certain spectrum of light we know other light exists

outside our view so we could call all things sound on a spectrum even though we can only hear within a certain frequency and that kind of shifts completely the way i think of what this is it also allows me to reimagine what the logos is you know like the first spoken word of god speaking this into existence like is through sound itself through the vibration brought the world of 10,000 things from the Tao from the unspoken. Right. And, um, it's just incredible to understand that, like what, what we have, you know, coming in, streamlining in is so important, you know, and it can go either direction and look no further. I mean, I know we're going to dive into this stuff here in a second but the first time you go deep on plant medicines and someone is singing to you live you're like whoa like is this is the medicine like they're not they're not

separate it's not like oh hey the aya was amazing and this guy sang an ikaros and i was like that's really cool too it's like no these things these things are deeply intertwined. They're not separate. They make the experience what it is. They direct the experience. But like, it's all one. It's not even the tobacco, the mapacho, like it's all one. You can't just say like, ah, no, we did this thing and try to compartmentalize it like we do in the West and modern science to make sense of it all.

It is all one. So I think, you know, the reason I bring that up is those experiences for me were the first time where I really understood music and sound differently. And of course, one of the ways you would approach that through dieta is to say, I'm going to remove anything negative. I'm not going to watch the news. I'm not going to watch scary movies. I'm not going to listen to rap music, even if I enjoy that or heavy metal, even if I enjoy that, simply going to bring in, you know, very easy, peaceful, instrumental sounds, or, you know, songs of prayer, things like that as my entry point leading into ceremony. And I know that's going off on a tangent, but that's

all just to say, like, the importance of what we're hearing, you know, is it noise, or is it music? Is it harmonizing us and bringing us into resonance or is it throwing us off in some way? I think that's a critical piece most people aren't thinking about these days. So I really thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, you hit it right on the nail on all of it. I mean, that's one aspect of the whole thing, right? Sound, right?

We take it for granted. Vision, what we're seeing, right? Sound, right? We take it for granted. Vision, what we're seeing, right? Like how powerful if you really think of what sight is. Sight is a frequency. It's a light frequency, right? If the room's pitch dark, you can't see anything, right? So if you turn the light on, all of a sudden you can see. Why is that? What does that even mean to the molecular level? It's a frequency. Light's bouncing off an image. It's your retina. even mean to the molecular level it's a frequency lights bouncing off an image it's your retina it goes to the back of your brain your brain creates chemicals shoots it up to the front part of the brain all of a sudden you have an image we take that for granted

that happens in what 0.026 seconds in real time and it's a cycle and we're cycling like this so anything you're seeing is actually inside of you, right? You with me on that? Just think about that. Yeah. Right. So quantum entanglement. I mean, you don't have to be on an acid trip to get this. You can actually like start meditating on how profound sight is. And the same thing with sound, even more so to a certain aspect, because it reverberates

into every cell and into the marrow of the essence of the physical body. And it goes beyond the physical body out into the toroidal force of the energy centers, the Anja of the body. It's fascinating. Sound healing, I've had my most highest levels of blast offs ever. And it's like sound is a critical component. And it's in my human design chart. When you have a professional human design reader look at your chart, they can see things

that affect you. Sound for me was number one. So it's interesting you brought that up. And I remember as a kid, I could never eat food if there was some kind of obnoxious noise going off i'm hyper sensitive to disturbing hertzes to disturbing uh noises that are off-putting that are unharmonic that are out of balance that are out of resonance like if i hear someone hammering this is why i have you know 30 acres in the middle of nowhere that's where i've been living for the last three years is i couldn't take traffic noise i couldn't take any of those things i'm hyper sensitive to it and it's

not that i have a crippling immune system or that i'm just a sissy it's just my my ability to go into higher levels of attainment were completely stunted if i'm around that kind of noise and stuff like that and then on the opposite end of that spectrum, if I can promote harmonic sounds, harmonic frequencies, and start adjusting to the attunement of it, then I can go deeper and deeper into what I'm here to do and what my intention is every day,

which is exactly what I talk about all the time with, you know, everyone that's in my sphere of influence is discernment into intention having intention on every aspect and doing nothing out of a state of doing nothing when you're in an unconscious state which is 99 of the world right now 99 of the world right now i can say that is doing things unconsciously they're're eating unconsciously, they're thinking unconsciously, they're making love unconsciously, they're learning things unconsciously, they're working unconsciously, they have relationships that are unconscious, all of those things, because they're not present, they're not in their body. And again, these are

things that you can start looking at and seeing, how can I make an adjustment here? How can I, why let me learn why sound frequencies are so important. I'm putting out fires with my sound bowls. Have you seen those videos? Yeah. That's like a technique. Now, you know, firemen are using sound frequencies to turn off,

to, um, to extinguish fires. Wow. Just think about that. Like, like, uh,

you know, there's a cymatic energy and frequency to sound and it's one of the most powerful forms of healing and awareness is, and you can take that technology and apply it to every other sense and every other aspect of this reality. And that's what I love doing. I love using things as a big, um, you know, sample size and then shooting it out all over the place. I love that. had i'm going berserk all right i love it i love it um well let's i mean let's jump in you had you had an amazing uh cousin and mentor david wolf is a david avocado wolf somebody i've been following for a very long time what a maniac that guy is yeah i love him dude i

love him because he's he's uh you know he's he's a dude that guy is. you know, as an older person to really draw from and have kind of, kind of lead and, you know, carve the path for you. Talk about your experience with him as a cousin and getting into plant medicine. Wow. I didn't know you, uh, you were aware of him on that level. That's fantastic. I mean, it's not ever a day goes by someone comes up to me and goes, Oh my God, you know, I love hearing your story about you and David. I follow you guys and what you guys are doing. And, um, it's such an honor to be on a path with you guys. You know, me and him, um, we just were best friends, you know, I'm his best friend. He's my best friend. He's like, um, you know, he was like my older brother growing up.

Now, sometimes I feel like his older brother and and you know it's just it's a trip I'm sure you have someone close to you that you grew up with but you know he's a very unique character and it was around you know 10 years old for me or 10 years young when he started going deep into where he is today and starting understanding raw food and getting into nutrition and saying, wait a second, there's something wrong with the system. So the stuff that I inherently already felt as a child, he brought the education to it and started teaching me abstract ideas and abstract concepts outside of the you know the standard structure of modern day society especially western society and um he introduced me to david ike you know oh yeah it was yeah yeah

i read the truth shall set you free when i was 12 wow yeah i was getting into all of that getting getting your mind just cracked wide open to some uh it's pretty pretty out there thinking that that may or may not be coming to fruition you know i mean i know a lot of people i think seven it's got to be around eight million people listening to him in his first interview on london real i think he's been on three times since yeah i mean you know as far as uh you know him getting into you know lizard beings and things like that reptilians and all that things that's yeah reptilians and all. Yeah, you can table that discussion and just say, well, is it starting to mirror China? Are we starting to mirror, is technocracy something

to pay attention to? For sure it is. This is definitely taking a side turn here, but I watched the documentary, The Creepy Line on Amazon, which is all about Google, you know, and Paul had Dr. Joe Mercola on. And it was something I first started becoming aware of when Rob Wolf was saying like, Hey, I'm getting shadow banned on Google. Nobody's finding my website. Traffic's way down. Um, he was really getting pissed off about social media as well. And, uh, obviously, you know, thankfully nobody's messing with iTunes and, uh, and podcasts up to date. I know some people have had their podcasts taken down from Spotify, interestingly enough, if they put COVID in the title. But all that to say, like, you watch the creepy line and you're like, yeah.

And it's just like it's a it just leads in, I guess what I'm trying to say without having to explain the whole documentary. It leads in a lot to what David's talking about. It's not so far-fetched anymore when we kind of see where this is headed, or at least to the degree, maybe if it's not our government, it's certainly this monitoring and storage of our information has been going on, and it's been going on to a degree where it's beyond the little thing we click yes to when we download the app. It's beyond saying yes to a Gmail account. It is well beyond that. And Google, in fact, they talk about Google getting in trouble for stealing information from anyone who did not have a secure Wi-Fi router as their automated cars were driving through the Silicon Valley. So they're driving by houses doing the Google Earth and they're grabbing information from everyone's Wi-Fi router that aren't locked.

And that got exposed. I mean, they talk about it. They actually got in trouble for it. It's crazy to think the amount of surveillance that's going on already, right? We're in interesting times. And I think, again, you said it right. You can look at something like what Ike was teaching or what he continues to teach. I didn't follow into the whole reptile stuff. I mean, I love going down an esoteric labyrinth, of course. And I know there's a lot more things beyond the veil than this material world that we're seeing 100%. I've known that since day one. I've known that. I've seen it in medicine. I've seen it without medicine. But I took what he was teaching back then,

specifically a tactic called problem reaction solution, where you create a problem and there's a reaction in the public and you provide the solution to that problem that you created. And that's a strategy that's been going on since the Knights of Templar. I mean, that's like, you know, thousands and thousands of years old where you can control the narrative and you can control the divide and conquer scheme. And that's what I really, really absorbed from David Icke around 12 years young. And that's what me and David talked about a lot because I was seeing it in my reality. I was seeing it in the Gulf War. I was seeing it in 9-11. I was seeing it in all of these things. They're all being played out. It's the same

thing. It's an economic collapse. It's a, it's a, you know, biological attack, right? It's what we're dealing with today. It's, you know, it's, it's fear, pain, mongering. It's a financial collapse. All of these things, you provide the solution to the pain and frustration and problem you've created. Then you provide everyone no option at that point. then you get more surveillance you get you know patriot act you get companies like google running around like a chicken with their head cut off just terrorizing everybody's privacy and then you know we're basically in a in a place where all of these things are happening and they're happening because the human psyche and the human body is falling apart. We're at the highest level of disease and malnourishment and clinical dehydration as

a populace. We're at the point now where people are so demineralized and so stripped of their own sovereignty because the chemistry in their body is not functioning. It's so easy to pull this society. It's so easy to make them fear something like COVID-19. It's so easy to scare them into a position where they'll take on any solution. And they've already given their power away to mass media. They've given their power away to allopathic Western medicine. They've given their

power away to a faith-based system that is maybe not helping them, where they're not actually applying the faith and living by that truth. And it's just some kind of figment in their imagination. I can see it all. Everything has led up to this. Me and David, our conversations today are like, wow. Everything we were talking about is literally unraveling at the seam right now. And I was, to the point I was 18, when I was 18, I became militant, bro. I mean, I was ready for some type of civil war. And I was already angry and frustrated because of, you know, my heritage and my country and what's happened in Iran. If you look back at, you know, how Iran was manipulated

by the European Union for oil and all these different things and put at war with Iraq, the whole thing was manufactured. So I was already angry about that. I was already angry about our society. I was ready for war. Going into my 20s, I was just like, this is full on. And it took a lot of reasoning and love from my father that got me out of that energy and more into a focused state and taking care of my family and taking care of my well-being to the evolution of where I am today, where I don't really talk about these things too much. I'm so focused on providing solutions.

And, you know, there's so many people out there that this is what they do. You know, London Real, for example, David Icke, for example, all of these, you know, groups that are doing such a fantastic job, you know, whether you agree with some of the, everything they're talking about or not, you can take pieces from it. And my whole thing is use discernment. Okay. So don't listen to me. Don't listen to that guy and just listen to us and take everything that we're saying firsthand as the truth. Listen, feel into it. If it resonates with you, do some more digging, do some empirical history digging, find research take your time and the same thing when it comes to health health is the main part of the whole thing is that the wire is everybody

jumping from this diet to that diet okay i'm keto one day okay i'm paleo one day okay i'm a vegan one day okay i'm vegetarian one day i'm this i'm that i'm breath breathitarian fruit of war whatever it is it's like how are you going all over the place? Take your time to learn about it. Don't just take someone's information and run with it. Take it, digest it, involve yourself with it, experience it, use discernment. I promise you, it's going to work a lot better.

And that goes with everything that we're talking about, with our construct, with our relationships, with our friendships, with our relationships, with our families, with our relationships with our families, with our relationships with God, source, soil, everything. It's about applied science. And that's, again, the spiritual science. It's finding truth within the science that shows the spirit is accurate, right? Instead of just this blind, misguided approach. And that's, again, another Steiner philosophy,

which is embedded into my DNA. And again, David led the way for me on that. You know, I respected the fact that he was spending 20 hours a day researching, that he'd go all over the world to learn about, you know, different philosophies from Eastern to Western to Scandinavian to South American. I mean, it's everywhere. He, you know, he's done over 3,500

live performances all across the world. I mean, he's been living out of a suitcase for 30 years, you know, to his detriment, you know, something that I don't believe in doing, you know, I'm all about ritual. I have ritual, my rising ritual, my sleeping ritual, you know, my fasting ritual, all of these things, my connection to the earth. He put himself into the, into the lion's den to learn and to experience. And I, I've learned that from him and I've learned that, that tenacity. And so all of, all of the things that we're talking about, I think it all comes down to using your discernment and coming from a place of no fear. together and create a cataclysmic downfall inside the human psyche. And it limits us from actually becoming what we're supposed to be becoming. Whether some person believes that or not, I believe that we've carnated here for a reason.

This is not just, we're not just material beings that are here to just procreate, eat food, shit, go to sleep, and do this cycle over and over for 70, 80 years, and then die malnourished, sick of some disease falling apart. No, no way. We are carnated souls in these bodies, and we're here for a reason. I strongly believe that knowing how the body works, knowing your heritage, your bloodline, getting into an intention every single moment of your life, doing things consciously, and also knowing where you are in this world. That's another thing. Rudolf Steiner said the illusionary astrology of the 21st century will be the epitome of this luciferic aramonic battle that's happening,

that's taking us out of our primal ability to become sovereign beings. And it just, it sticks with me. And you look at all the ancient philosophies, the Sumerians, the Egyptians, let me go all over the Mayans, cosmology was at the root of everything. And that's another thing that I learned from David is that it's not just about the soil science and the permaculture, but it's also understanding the cosmology and understanding the cycles and the seasons and really having a relationship with as above, so below and learning what all of that stuff means.

So again, we are in the age of materialism at the highest level. We have not gotten to this level of materialisms because of the level of electronics, the level of TV, movies, all of these things that take us out of our present. and all that stuff. That's where we embed in there and we can weave with that new technology, which is a form of magic if you really look at it. But we're in materialistic mechanistic flow at the highest level. We have government, we have medical mafias, we have forced things that are happening. We have food economics that have completely distorted the natural biosystems of our reality, of our environment, and our inner ecosystems, which are directly related to the microbiome of that soul. All of that's been destroyed. All of that's been dilapidated. Most of the aquifers in North America have been fracked to death.

So now, I mean, I always ask people this, or I always tell them, think about the most common commodity in the world, which is water, clean water, spring water, right? That's the jing of it, the electricity of it. That's become a luxury. To drink clean spring water has become a luxury today. Meaning you have to have abundance, right? You have to have abundance to drink clean water today and so we're in that age right now and i think that's a reason why you have this shift into hyper spirituality right you can see it with the new age you can see it with you know the venice beach crowd you can see it with the abyssa crowd now you can see it with that big movement heading down to the jungles of Peru and Amazon.

Everyone's going into ayahuasca ceremonies. Everyone's doing combo ceremonies. I serve medicine. I've served medicine to some of the biggest people in the world. I think you know that. Mike Tyson's one of them. I've taken him down that entire road. For me, it's finding balance between both worlds because I certainly don't believe in the

materialist, which is just brick. We're just flesh and bone and it's all about system and it's all about making money and it's all about this, this, this, this and that crap. And I definitely don't believe in being hyper spiritual to the point where you're not in your body and you're running from abundance and you're living in poverty conscious and all of the scarcity mentality. I think it's finding balance in the middle and looking at these two opposing forces, the Aramonic influence and the Luciferic forces as just part of the construct. It's not evil, right? When we make things evil, when we make things scary, then all of a sudden it becomes polarized and it becomes a problem

and we don't allow us to flow with it. And it's just like everything else in our reality. When we start polarizing things and start divide and conquer, Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal, all this stuff, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. Ease and grace here. Let's get grounded. Let's take care of our families. Let's take ownership

of our lives. Let's grow our own food. You know what I mean? Let's get back to the basics, the primal basics. Sorry, I went off on a tangent, but I'm very passionate about these things. And I can see that this is really where the suffering is coming from. You know, it's not this, we can't fight this government if we're dilapidated. If we're under control, if the biochemistry of the body is working, if the lymph system is working, if the liver is working, I've been going crazy on the liver. I don't know if you've been reading my posts.

I've been diving so deep on the liver and its responsibility on the human body and the burden that the American culture is putting their livers under right now. It's unbelievable. Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, just that alone. Forget about all the alcoholics and just the alcohol drinking. Just that alone is governing and controlling the human the chinese ancient taoist immortals they knew that liver is the center of it it's your chi it's your anger it controls all your frustration we need to get our bodies right

then we can hold hands come together and not shift this reality, we can start a revolution. That's really what I'm doing with Symbiotica. And I love that. I love you too, man. I'm all the fuck in. Yeah, well, I definitely want to dive into Symbiotica here. But there's a few things I wanted to comment on. You know, at the very end, if people made their way through it, a lot of people turned it off because

it was just so really in your face. Like David Icke does not pull strings or he doesn't pull punches rather. At the very end, maybe the last 20 minutes of his first interview, he talked about the nature of consciousness. He talked about us being incarnated here. He talked about what a miracle is to live in this time in particular. That's something like that's something Rogan's talked about in the past. If you lived a thousand years ago, seven generations behind you and seven generations forward, it looked the exact same. It didn't look much different. People still had their unique experiences, but we were not on a technological rise.

We were not, you know, we might've faced natural disasters, but we weren't facing total ecosystem collapse and the earth will survive us no matter what, no matter if we live for a very long time, or if we, you know, put an end to this current ecosystem that we have very quickly. I mean, that remains to be seen, but the earth will survive us. I agree with you. What he gets to in the end of this first interview is the fact that it's exactly what you're speaking to. If we operate in fear, if we operate in stress, we're not clear thinkers. Bruce Lee talked about that. You never want to fight angry. You never want to fight in a state of fear. You want to be loose. You want to be in the flow state. He was

speaking about flow before it became a coin term. And really that, that empty mind or meditation in action is such an important entry point into this, you know, and, uh, you know, one more piece before I circle back on that, the hyper-spiritual, it know, and, you know, one more piece before I circle back on that, the hyper spiritual, it always, it always cracked me up how many spiritual masters there were with failing bodies. It's, you know, set aside, you know, money's the root of all evil and that kind of, that kind of talk, but just look at, you know, like you get so into the astral, so into the etheric plane that you no longer care for this vessel. Like this is your temple. You only get one,

this go around, even though I'll get to trade in for a new one, there'll never be another Kyle Kingsbury, right? There'll never be there. I only get this embodiment once. And so that to me, I think is a big point there, but these things are not separate, right? When we look in a holistic, a holistic view, we know that we are tuning forks. And the better I take care of this system, the better I can tune in to higher levels of consciousness, higher levels of awareness, and actually get downloads in a meditation, in a float tank, in breathwork, or with the medicines themselves. Point is, it's absolutely critical that we take care of this machine and this hardware so that our software can operate appropriately. And if we're operating out of fear and stress and anger and resentment and blame and this

other separation consciousness, we're not going to be in alignment. We're not going to be able to see a path forward that's inclusive of everyone with their own unique qualities and traits and their own unique belief systems and have the ability to compassionately hold everyone else's differences within that. Right. Talk a bit about these entry points. You know, I want to dive.

We're definitely going to finish with why you created Symbiotica and the importance of building back our health. You know, and one thing you brought up is water being like the number one commodity in the world. It costs more than a fucking gallon of gasoline. That's unacceptable, right? That's where we're at right now. And not just in the middle East, all over you, you buy a, you know, uh, you buy anything,

you buy a six, you know, buy a pint in a plastic bottle. You add that up to a gallon multiply. That's more than a cost of a gallon of gasoline. That's an important factor here. Um, talk about these entry points that you have. If all things are starting to come into alignment in terms of the physical, you're taking care of yourself. You have a good movement practice. The diet that you're eating is correct for you, which takes some navigating and learning, but you found that. Your sleeping is good. All

these other systems are good. And maybe you've started to dissolve away a lot of the noise of reality TV and programming and you're taking in high quality documentaries and listening to the right types of music that fill your soul and fill your cup. What are some of these entry points that you use, be it plant medicine or meditation practices that really allow you to get in that state where you can tap into intuition? You can have direction that's not coming from the thinking mind, but coming from within or on high, the high self. I love you too, brother.

Thank you, Paul Cech. Thank you for being a bridge for this relationship. And I see you, bro. Most people that are going to be listening to us we can see each other right now on this uh video and so it's uh so we're seeing each other's expressions and it's just good to it's good to meet you again brother you know what i mean to see someone and because i'm basically looking at myself you know and i think that right there is the power is ultimately you you know, we can take

in all these documentaries, we can do all these kinds of things. We got to surround ourselves with ourselves. We got to be around people that see us and are real with us and can call us higher and can authenticate our own expression. And so, you know, that's really important. You know, I tell everyone, do a major detox on your circle, your sphere of influence. You're the sum of the five people that you're closest to, right? That's true. And as far as like an entry point, you're right. If you're biochemically completely distorted, the biochemistry shows you that we're going to be in a state of inflammation, cortisol, which is a stress hormone. And when you're under that type of, I would say poison, because it becomes a poison at

some point, you can't stay in your parasympathetic experience, which is rest, relaxation, and harmony to take on a decision and to make an assumption and to have clarity. You're constantly dipping into that, what they call sympathetic, and going into the fight-flight path. And that is what I believe is what's happening

with the modern world. Everybody is sitting in a state of shock, and they're in a state of fear, and they're in a panic. And that's why they're reaching for things that are not good for them. That's why they're reaching for that, basically, every day they're having that black coffee, and they're putting that sugar in it. And then they're eating this donut, and then they're eating this sugar, and then they're having that black coffee and they're putting that sugar in it. And then they're eating this donut and then they're eating this sugar and then they're addicted to this drink. And then they're having this glass of wine, which turns into three glasses of wine. And it's not biodynamic wine, it's commercial wine. And then they're having some type of sex addiction or porn addiction. All of these things are coping mechanisms that for a short while get you feeling good outside of that stress but it's super short

lived and every time you do it it gets less and less and less by the time you're 30 35 40 years young 40 years old you start deteriorating your body starts losing its vital force the browning effect starts happening which is the electrical system starts to die out we now know we're electrical beings before we're chemical beings in order order to heal, it's an electrical solution. It's not a chemical one. That's why I sunbathe. That's why I ground to the earth. That's why I get away from Wi-Fi technology. That's why everything in my house is grounded. That's why I don't bathe in these non-native electromagnetic frequencies, all of these different things. I can go on and on down the entire list. I'm extreme to the person who has no idea what I'm talking about. And it's just like what you

said about going into Europe or going into like San Francisco and seeing a building that's 90 years old and thinking that's an old building. Everything's relative, right? You're only relative to your experience and what you already know. And that's why it's like going outside of the box. So for me, it's creating momentum. So your entry point is momentum. I saw this show a couple of weeks ago. I don't watch regular TV. It was at a friend's house. There was this poor guy, dude. He was probably at 800 pounds. I've never seen anything like it. And they had to cut down his house to put him on a forklift to take him to a hospital and then from there they

give him they did like bariatric surgery where they staple the stomach so he stops eating and it stops producing certain hormones it was a complete utter nightmare have you seen that have you seen what i'm talking about where the person's like turned into an obese thing yeah right i used to see like it was my 600 pound life and it's funny i mean yeah it wasn't something i watched but i had one of my roommates and you know one of my best friends growing up he loved it he was obsessed with it he's obsessed with that right because it's shock right oh for sure it's like you know you can't turn away from the train wreck you know that kind of thing and this isn't i mean we have i think 66 the two-thirds of the u.s is now obese this is like morbid this is beyond what we consider obese this is an epidemic yeah it's where you but when you look at that show in

particular you really wonder like it's not i think what's interesting about that the one episode i saw you see like it isn't just the solo person, right? These people become, they become to a point where they can no longer take care of themselves. It's kind of like in the, in the, in the Disney film WALL-E, you know, like the, everything's brought to them. They're on these, they're on these little go-kart things, you know, they never have to walk. They never have to move. All their food is brought to them. And then that's what they turn over generations. But this is happening over the course of a lifetime. Usually what you see is someone contributing to that like a dad who's like i never i never want to see my precious little girl go hungry so i bake her a tray of of you know croissants and then i have you know melted

cheese and fondue whatever the case is there's always somebody helping out with the issue and they too have some mental issues going on there but um for sure yeah it's like it's like an odd science project to see like how they fix these people fix right like i got air quotes up it's brutal it's an abomination and my point with it is that that didn't happen overnight something sparked that it was momentum based right first of all it was a consciousness it was an energy and it was a frequency that caused that whole thing to develop into 900 pound material weight body that's falling apart and the heart's about to stop and the liver is failing and they can't even move and it's just and when it comes to momentum momentum goes any direction it's not biased right it can go anywhere? So it can go that direction. And it can also go into the direction of living your most invigorating, passionate life where you're in intention,

where you have beautiful relationships, where you are a pillar in your community, where you are experiencing heaven every single day on earth, where you do have visions of paradise, where you're healthy, thriving, not in pain, not in frustration, and not reaching for things to fill a void. And those momentums, I mean, it could be anything. You could listen to this podcast one day. You can start journaling. You can start looking for clean water. You can start changing your diet habits. I always say, hey, before adding things, you got to start removing things. You can start all of these different things, just a small thing here and there every single day. It's not this big thing. The messages I receive every day, Shervin, be my mentor. Shervin, where do I have to go to

learn what you have? What school is it? Look, it's not like that. You have to build discipline from within and it starts with one or two things here and there. And as you start flowing with it, momentum starts happening. And once you start going down this rabbit hole, then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm ready to learn about the gut microbiome. I want to understand how does the certain bacteria strains in the gut interact with foods that create serotonin and dopamine and oxytocin and how does the neurotransmitters work, gut-brain axis. Once you start learning that, then you're like, oh, maybe that Diet Coke isn't for me

or maybe I shouldn't eat that GMO cornbread or whatever it is, whatever they're eating today. It's taking the action and standing in it fully, which gives you the power. And again, that's another Steiner thing. It's experimental knowledge. It's not something that someone's just going to teach you. You have to fully embody it and experience it. And so I think that's the main thing that people need to do is just start making little changes. They don't have to be big wholesale changes. If you're ready for wholesale changes, go berserk.

Fuck it. I don't care. Go all in. That's how I live. But if it's, if it's difficult, if you have excuses, if it's, you know, you don't have a supporting loved one or you're having, you know, marital issues or you have this, that start making small things. Maybe you're not supposed to eat that big five-course meal in the evening. Maybe stop eating fruit

after protein, fats, and other things. Maybe just start understanding food combinations. Maybe stop watching TV till you fall asleep. Maybe you got to get up and start making a ritual of waking up on the rise with the sun naked on the earth if that's a possibility so many different things that you can do start inverting i can go on and on we can create a whole list of just different things people can choose two every week do that for what a whole entire year all of a sudden you have 104 things right i'm do the math on that right yes boom you're locked and loaded you became a jed master. And then now I can lean on you, brother. You know what I'm saying?

And that's really what it's all about. It's embodying those things. And that's what me and Paul talk about all the time. And you know Paul, right? He's such a berserker. He's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, Paul, what do you think about this? He's like, hmm, yeah, that's a good idea, Sherby.

You know what I mean? So it's just really getting into taking your own power back stop being it's like get this victimhood shit out of here even if you are a victim you're not a victim like get like get over it wake the fake up snap out of it you were you were a victim right yeah if you were a victim you certainly were you don't have nobody to take that from you you were a victim but you're not now you don't have to be right now right and as we circle back to the present moment in every now yeah and we have this opportunity we have choice we have free will in the now we certainly don't in the past right but i think

about that um you know i had this guy james clear on the podcast who wrote atomic habits and actually spoke about him on my last trip to uh being on paul check's podcast living in 4d and one thing he talks about is um you're not going for a hundred percent competency and mastery in everything you write down as a goal you're aiming for one to 2% better in each. And that has a global effect. As you get one to 2% better on diet, sleep, movement, what you're consuming on a mental emotional level through media and music and everything else, who you're hanging out with, the books that you read, as that gets one to 2% better in all directions. You see this global effect that's far greater than the sum of its parts. And you know,

it's, it's a, it feels great. And that's the whole thing. I want to, I want to remind people, one of my favorite quotes from Wim Hof is feeling is believing, you know,

like don't take my fucking word for it. When you feel neurochemistry shift, it's, it's palpable. It's real. It doesn't become a concept anymore. It's not taken on faith. It's palpable. It's real. It doesn't become a concept anymore. It's not taken on faith. It's direct experience, right? And of course, that's one of the beautiful things about plant medicines is direct experience with higher levels of consciousness with source itself

that you're not going to read about in a book. You know, Ted Decker always talks about this. I know I've mentioned it before, but I can't tell somebody about an avocado and I'm bringing this up because I'm thinking of, you know, your cousin's nickname. I can tell somebody about an avocado. I can describe it perfectly. I can draw it. I can make a 3d rendering of it. You know, we can 3d print it in the future. We can do all these things that show it to you, but until you eat an avocado, you don't know what an avocado is. It doesn't matter if I'm the most fluent educator on the planet, you will not know it until you eat it for yourself. And I think that's,

that's where, you know, whether it's, it's trying plant medicines or, you know, starting to make shifts in any number of the things that you've talked about. And there's been many, right.

There's so many that we can, we can grab onto and just start to shift and move towards. It's the feeling that gets us to come back. And so you got to sit with it long enough to build that isn't that interesting though and to piggyback off that once you have the avocado once you experience the avocado i right now can taste it i can experience it right because that's that's just it's it's chemicals right and so and it's just rewiring pathways and expression and experience if i think of a lemon right now my mouth starts to water citrus the thought of citrus i've i've massive lemon trees here right the thought of

lemon trees boom all of a sudden i'm salivating that's just one aspect and that's and that's what it is it's like once you experience then you can recall it all the time and you have it in your back pocket and that is power right there but you have to truly be in the experience you have to intentionally be there and that's anything if it's eating an avocado eating a lemon meditation prayer learning about the human ecosystem understanding basic parts of anatomy understanding the circadian rhythm and what disruptors can can mess that up those things experience them and all of a sudden they're embodied within you and that's like. And it's like that old ancient Taoist immortal that can be in heaven on earth, even in a three by five foot jail cell. Think about that.

For 30 years, stuck in a little tiny physical man-made prison, but is experiencing nothing but heaven 24 hours a day for 30 years because they've embodied that. What are these monks doing in caves for 100 years of their life? Are they crazy? Are they out of their mind? Of course not. They've carnated here for a reason to experience that as part of this reality. We got to start thinking outside the box. We got to get a little uncomfortable. We got to understand what hormesis is. Are you familiar with that term? That which does not kill you makes you stronger. That's what hormesis is. That's that whole David Sinclair, the Harvard guy that's talking about NAD boosters and nicotinamide mononucleotide and understanding caloric restriction and all that

stuff. These little things, jumping in the cold water, putting yourself to the edge, all those things, they cause your body to respond. That's how the immune system powers up. That's nature's vaccine, right? We have to test the waters. We got to get uncomfortable. I've spent time with Wim Hof. He used to come to our longevity conference you know and speak at david's things and stuff like that he was a berserker total maniac best ever and he'd tell me about some of the situations that how he got started and how he got the uncomfortability is what took him there and that's how we build ourselves we got to get out of our comfort zone everyone Everyone's in their comfort zone, you know,

but we got to find balance. Like, like I want, I want to go stay at a five star resort in Bali. Fuck. Yeah. But I also go live naked in the jungles of Uru Bamba for a month doing medicines and being completely out of my body for sure. I,

it's yeah. It's like, yeah, it doesn't have to be one way. Yeah. There's a yoga teacher that absolutely love, uh, Jen Pru who, who started yoga anytime.com. She, uh, she led my wife through her first 200 hours of yoga teacher training out in the Bay area. And she talks about that, that, that old, you know, Ram Dass was one of her mentors. And one of the things she talks about is we often push so far to the right and so far to the left. And we, we, we value these extremes only as a means to find our center.

Right. And it's, it's important, but the further we get out there and away from ourselves, the further we get into our uncomfort with further, we get into the unknown and that's absolutely critical. But I know we're, we're,'re uh we're approaching the end here i definitely you know i don't have a cut off here but i i certainly want to talk about where we're at we're at we're at a critical point in the modern world we're at a critical point with our food supply we're at a critical point with soil health we're at a critical point with a lot of things and we're seeing the cracks in the wall. We're seeing how unstable

society is as a whole because of the lack of foundation we built it on. And rather than, you know, really etch that out and what it looks like for people and go down, you know, I often say, you know, the only problem I had with David Icke's interview on London Real, the first one was that the last 20 minutes were the magic. The first hour and nearly two hours, that was really hard to take in. If he had kind of inverted that and spent 80% of it talking about the nature of consciousness and what to do and 20% of it talking about where we are, I think that would have been a much more palatable podcast. That said, I still took a lot from it.

And where we're at with our food, where we're at, people, even Paul Cech brought this up, like the dependency. Why do we need a dependency on a supplement? And I don't think people need to be dependent. But at the same time, we know through looking at soil quality, magnesium level, even if a plant is super high in magnesium or if an animal product like liver is super high in different micronutrients, it's not going to be as robust as it was a hundred years ago. And certainly not as robust as it was a thousand years ago.

Right. It's just not, it's just not where we're at today. And so yeah, they're completely, completely denatured. So I think of these things and I think like, where are these great starting points? And thankfully I've had a deep dive into a lot of the products that you've created, but talk about why you started Symbiotica, what it means to you, what you've created thus far and where you see it going in the future. Um, you hit it right on the nail.

Um, looking at our modern era, um, has been very scary for me. And I grew up around health and nutrition from a Persian perspective and also from a raw food perspective, and then ultimately from a biodynamic perspective. So ultimately, I mean, before I'm an alchemist, scientist, whatever I am, I don't even know what I am. I'm just me, right? I'm a biodynamic farmer. And what does that mean? That means that I approach my entire life with intention. And that's how I cultivate my being just like I would cultivate a seed. And I would nourish that seed and comfort that seed and grow it and nourish it while it's going through multiple phases of its life to then bring back the energy of the soil and the water into our realities. That's the whole biodynamic concept is that

we don't need to be doing all this crazy stuff. Everything can be self-contained and nourished if the mind and heart and gut connection is connected to the soil and the seed of the plant. And so we're in modern times in terms of our food agriculture. The industrial revolution that happened in the early 1900s sparked a lot of radical change in this world. The advent of chemicals, the advent of industrial chemicals, the advent of agricultural chemicals, all of these things changed the way food was grown. You know, I've said it in most of my live lectures, a hundred years ago, most of the population had a direct relationship with the food that they ate. Meaning that they either grew it or their neighbor grew it or their cousin grew it.

Someone in their ethos grew the food that they ate. Now today, in America, less than a quarter of an eighth of 1% of the American population has a direct relationship to their food. That in itself is so alarming to our current state of affairs, of our health, of our awareness, and even more importantly, our relationship to our mother. Okay, so this could be a spiritual aspect, but just think about it. You're going to get demineralized food if there's no tender loving care putting into that food, if there's no education and knowledge on how soil should be cycled and how soil should be mineralized and how you should be moving plots and how you should have the cow involved and all these different things, yes. But ultimately, think about it.

If 100 years ago, that amount of the population was related to the food that they ate, that means how many people's hearts and souls were going into that soil. We're going into that food or taking care of the mother. Now it's the opposite. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody has any idea where food's being grown, how it's being grown. They have no clue. They don't know who the farmers are. They don't know where it's being shipped from. You go to a Whole Foods, you go to wherever you're going, it's all different foods all over the place. You have no idea. It could look good, but most of the time, it's not worth a penny of what it's being sold to. It's unbelievable. It just shocks me that we've hit this level of demineralization in our food. Organic, just to jump on that real quick, means absolutely nothing. What it does mean is that you might not have herbicide, fungicides, larvicides, insecticides, glyphosate, glyphosate, whatever you want to call

it, not in there and other petrochemicals, but it doesn't mean that it's nourished with the minerals and the biotics necessary for a well-balanced fruit or vegetable. And so we're getting all of this food that has no nutritional value. And to jump back to the amount of obesity we're seeing in kids, when I see an obese child, I don't think of an overfed kid. I think of a starving child. That kid is starving because that kid's not getting nutrients. He's getting empty calories. And that's why he's in that state. And that's why it's triggered thyroid issues.

And that's why it's triggered cognitive issues. And that's why they're depressed and on all kinds of psychoactive drugs and all kinds of pharmaceutical craziness. Their entire endocrine system has completely been thrown out of whack. Then they're down a whole path of diabetes, heart disease, all kinds of lymphomas, and they're living obese. This is common now. This is the most scariest thing that I'm seeing is the state of affairs that we're in. So yes, we're not designed to be eating supplements. We're supposed to be living on our farm, growing our own food in healthy soil.

We're supposed to understand how to turn over soil. We're supposed to know how to grow our food. We're supposed to cycle it with our cosmology. There's a whole practice to this. The ancients knew this. The biodynamic farmers knew this. The permaculturists know this. This is the fabric of who we are.

But we're completely lost our way right now. And so that's where Symbiotica came. Symbiotica was me just thinking, okay, how am I going to get all of these nutrients back into people's guts and not only put them together, but make sure they're bioavailable. And so I started just searching all over the world. I was looking for what are the main deficiencies. So my background is orthomolecular nutrition. Orthomolecular basically is the foundation of understanding that it's the deficiencies of nutrition that are causing malnourishment and then eventually disease. It's taking us out of our health span and into the disease span at a much early age. And that's how the human body works.

We're born. We are in a health span. At some point, we enter the disease span. We shouldn't be entering the disease span until a lot later in life. But now it's starting in our 30s. If you look at the national censuses and stuff like that, where diseases are coming, we're getting so many radical diseases right now, it's out control you combine malnourishment right you're not getting your food you're not getting your good water with all the petrochemicals environmental pollutants toxins

all of the electromagnetic frequencies i mean i can go on and on we can that's a whole podcast then you're having like a complete you know cataclysmic event that's happening within the cells of our reality, what's happening in our bodies. And the amount of disconnection and dis-ease that's happening is at the highest level we've ever seen in this state. Whatever epoch or whatever you want to call this time era, we've never experienced anything like this. And it's only going to get worse unless we grab hold of our health. That's what's inspired me for Symbiotica. I wanted to go all across the earth and source the highest bioavailable nutrients and put them together in harmony, where they all complement each other to perfection. And from there,

enter them into a higher level of technological advanced state, which is liposomal and micelle technology. So the body recognizes them as food. All of my products, I'm not selling powders and capsules and tablets or anything like that. And I'm not against certain capsules. I think herbal blends and certain things like that, it's no problem. You can put them in a capsule. But when we're talking about nutrients that should be coming from our foods, like vitamin D3, like vitamin K2, like Weston A. Price, I can take you down that whole story. I'm sure you're familiar with Weston A. Price. He was a famous dentist in the early 1900s. He traveled all around the world. He was looking for the reason why Americans' jaw structures and jaw formations in children were falling apart. Why were they

having such massive tooth decay? Why were we falling apart from this disease and that disease? He located a molecule in Indonesia and Africa called Activator X. Activator X we now know is vitamin K2. Vitamin K2 comes from a fermentation process of certain plants. It also comes from grass-fed meats. That's the MK4 version, which stands for menaquinone 4. What this molecule does in the body is very interesting. It allows our body, I won't get into the actual details, I'll make it pretty simple. But basically, it turns on enzymes in our body that allow us to take free-floating calcium out of the blood and into the bones where they belong. What's the leading cause of death in this world? It's some type of heart disease, arthroschlerotic. What does that mean? That means it's calcification of the arterial walls in the

heart. Why are we getting over-calcified? Why are we getting non-native forms of calcium and man-made compounds? You can look, I don't know if you've seen my stories. I run around grocery stores. I don't go to Vons. I don't go to Safeway. Those are too easy. I go to the health food stores and I look at their ingredients and I pick out stuff that don't belong there. All these almond milks, cashew milks, they all have calcium phosphate in it. It's not a calcium that we can absorb. Something like K2 takes free-floating calcium out of the blood, out of the soft tissues, and into the bones where we all need it, especially women, leading cause osteoporosis. I can go on and on. These are the things that I'm doing. I'm going to the highest bioavailable sources in the world and I'm taking myself there with film crews and showing how we're doing it. I'm all open, authenticated. It's completely wide open. The truth has to set you free. There could be no closed doors, proprietary nonsense, nothing like that. It's like, this is what it is. I signed contracts with the top,

top manufacturers in the world. It's expensive as fuck. It's expensive. My margins are shit. You know, I'm going to be, I'm going to be honest. My margins are shit. I had to fight my CEO just to have, you know, go this route because I said, look, dude, I have to do everything in intention. I can't sell out for anything. It has to be the best. Just our packaging, our bottles, our Myron glasses are more expensive than any product's formulas that you'll go and see in Whole Foods that are in plastic containers with capsules. Those powders have been sitting in a manufacturing facility for two, three years. My products have to be shipped cold because they're alive.

They've been encapsulated with phospholipids turned into liposomal. And I'm very enthusiastic about this because, you know, if you don't know, then you have no idea what goes into this. And it takes so much effort to make a formula and to make sure that it stays intact and that it's protected from the elements and that it's an aqueous solution. Just the fact that it's liquid. I mean, these products that I make, they're good for six, nine months. Then they're spoiled because they're alive. They're food.

The body recognizes it as food. When you put it in your mouth, it's just like food. Food, nutrition is embedded into the fiber and into the fats of food. It's the same thing. Our products are fat-based. They're all ketogenic. You take it. They don't create an insulin response. They go past the saliva, the pH of the saliva. They make it into the stomach. The hydrochloric acid starts to activate it a little bit, but it doesn't destroy it. It makes itself into the large intestines and it passes the epithelial layer or the brush border barrier and starts to break down. And all the nutrients there are intact at that point.

And so the bioavailability is there. It's the whole, what's that old saying? You are what you eat. You are what you absorb, right? That's the key. And if you don't have the biotics in your gut, you don't have the intrinsic factor in your gut, you don't have these certain things working hand in hand, you're not absorbing anything. You're just taxing your kidneys and throwing your money down the drain. And that's really what Symbiotica is. And I'll add it a level further. We're making the best formulas on earth, hands down, not even close. Our Regenesis product that just came out has crossed the barriers of anything that's ever been done before. Combining fermented glutathione and bounding it to lactoferrin, which is the

active substance in colostrum, and then putting PQQ pyroquinolone in there with CoQ10 and lipolyzing it. It's just nothing like this has ever been done before. And I added 7 billion CFUs of lactobacillus rhamnosus, which is a human strain probiotic, all in one. That's just one thing that we're doing. And these are all great. All these products are fantastic. But it's just a front, brother.

I'm really just dropping seeds of starting a whole new awareness to a whole new lifestyle. You know what I mean? This is a movement. Symbiotica is an ethos within yourself of taking ownership of your life. And it's all about education. Everyone asks me, all walks of life, top celebrities in the world to random people I meet on the street that recognize me. They ask me where to start. I say, I don't know. Just go learn. The information is out there. The education is out there. It's so important for people to understand why our Synergy B12 is so critical for your children and for you. And what B12 is, it's not just gives you energy. That's not how it works, right? It's not a stimulant. It cleanses your cells because it's methylcobalamin.

It adds to the methylation process to your cells. And I added adenosylcobalamin in there, which is the powerhouse of the mitochondria, another form of B12. And I have L-methylfolate in there with fulvic minerals from distilled Shilajit. There's a method to the madness. And everyone, I implore you, because this is just the beginning. I'm going super sorcerer status on this. We're getting crazy here in terms of what we're about to get into. Take time. Everything that has been designed with Symbiotica has been designed with intention. I looked at all the deficiencies across our country, across the world, mainstream, low stream, all of it. And I started targeting major, major problems. And that's what Symbiotica is doing right now is I'm plugging in the gaps.

And then from there, God knows where we're going to go. I trusted in the Lord is basically guiding me on my path of taking me into higher levels of consciousness through the alchemy of this new form of food. And it's really, really exciting. And you see me, I don't know if you've seen videos of me in our facility in Iceland. I'm extracting world-class astaxanthin from an algae strain called Hematococcus pluvialis, which is basically nature's protection carotenoid. It's the strongest antioxidant made in nature, 6,000 times stronger than vitamin C. That's in our omega formula that's mixed with microalgaes that are extracted in Nova Scotia. It's like, we're not messing around. It's the

highest, highest end formulas in the world. I don't know anything that comes close in terms of quality and intention. And I might be biased because I'm here on the front lines, but the way that Symbiotica is growing right now, the rate that we're growing is a testament that you don't need to marginalize products to be successful, that you don't have to go the retail route to be successful. We didn't have to do that. We just have to build a momentum and educate people.

And we're just getting started, bro. Like literally, we're just getting started. You should see the feedback that I'm getting. I mean, people are having really, really just powerful moments. And again, it's- I can give you some feedback right now. I can give you some feedback right now. You know, I think I got introduced to your stuff

from my buddy, Alex Rubchinski, who was on the podcast with his wife or soon to be wife, Sarah Gustafson. And they're Czech practitioners. And they're like, hey, did you hear this guy? He was on a Czech's podcast. And I was like, no, is it worth checking out? And he's like, oh, you got to listen.

And he showed me like the whole- What's his name, Alex? Alex Rubchinski. Yeah, he showed me the whole product line and i was like oh okay cool you know you had me try some of the stuff and immediately i started with the b12 and it's like you said it's it's not a stimulant it does give you energy especially if you're lacking but i mean it was just like a palpable feel and calming at the same time it was like this like my body just felt relaxed with it. And that's something that I continue to give. I gave Tosh the majority of her pregnancy. I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't turned

on prior to the pregnancy, but you know, second trimester, third trimester, D3K2, B omega, and of course the B12 for her and my son bear. And so I know that's really powered our little girl wolf, you know, and it's helped Tosh to be able to deliver a perfectly natural pregnancy and a full squat next to the bed at home. You know, I know that's, that's a difficult thing for a lot of people to do. I'm not saying everyone can do it, but at the same time, I know that played an impact in, in her own health and her ability to, to make that happen. So, you know, that puts me in tears. Maybe once a day, I'm not some like, crying, you know, emotional Nancy. But I get I tear up maybe once or once a day or once every two days, just with that gnosis, knowing that there's so many families out there that are incorporating this into their lives.

And so many children out there that have been, quote unquote, put on the spectrum through their allopathic care. And the whole time they just had the MTHFR gene mutation. The whole time. And they couldn't properly methylate. And all of a sudden they're taking methylating compounds and all of a sudden they're back to normal and their parents are sending me videos of them at their recitals and and stuff like that like i can't this is why i do what i do i don't have to do any of this i can just go you know we have a farm in kawaii i can go live in kawaii and travel the world and go to festivals and you know. And hey, I don't need to be doing all this.

I don't need to be studying 20 hours a day and focused on this crap. But this is what it's all about. This is my dharma here is to do stuff like this and to hear a brother like you tell me that, you know, my child, my baby and my mother, my queen was, you know, developing this soul in her body with these nutrients that I know where they came from because I was there and involved with it. I didn't use a five, third party, fourth party, fifth party down the trough of all these other different nutritional supplement companies.

It was made with my eyes on it and my awareness with the best scientists in the world. This is the best ever. This is it. What the hell else are we doing? I love it. One of my favorite books. I know we got a jam here soon, but one of my favorite books I've ever read is the King warrior,

magician and lover. And there are very, very few people that I've met. You know, he's a young analysis, analysis, Robert Moore. And I forget the other author,

but they talk about these really incredible archetypes that encapsulate what a man is. And of course, that's also translatable to women because the queen, the warrior, the magician, and the lover exist within them as well. So it's not just a book for men, but other than Paul Cech and maybe a few others, I haven't seen somebody embody all four archetypes so well as I do when I look at you. And really looking at what you've done with Symbiotica, I'm seeing the magician on high right now coming through you. And it's such a wonderful thing because there is magic in real life. It is something we take from out there and bring to the earth,

and you're doing that right now. See a need, fill a need. And we have a deep need for these nutrients. We have a deep need to heal from within on a very physical level, just so we have the ability to navigate the waters on the deeper planes of consciousness and really come to a place where we live in harmony with the all, where we step back inside the sacred hoop, as the Native Americans called it,

and have a deeper connection to all that is. I love you so much, brother. It's been excellent having you on this podcast. Tell us where people can find you. God bless you, brother. Honestly,

like from the deepest, like every cell in my body. And, uh, I'm here for you, your family, anyone that's connected to you is my family. That's how we bridge.

Um, there's no scarcity mentality. We all eat at the same table. And that's for everyone listening to this. That's the heart that's opening. And there's just this divide and conquer and this like, in order for me to get mine, I got to take yours. If I should succeed, you must fail fail that's the old paradigm that competition paradigm is crumbling it's fallen apart they've indoctrinated us into us with children with pressures of being the most beautiful the most athletic the smartest fuck all that

that's all gone and I really really appreciate you I appreciate you doing what you do because I see you as well and the embodiment that you hold being this fierce monster of a man and at the same time being such a soft-spoken beautiful archetype and you're right feminine and masculine cross both of the genders it doesn't have to be one or the other we can we can encompass and and and hold those traits you know and that's the

whole thing like you don't have to be one um dimensional you know know, and that's the whole thing. Like you don't have to be one, um, dimensional, you know, and that's, that's the true alchemy of really experiencing in this life. And so really appreciate you and honor you. Um, you can just find me anywhere. I mean, uh, symbiotica.com is the site that's, you know, C Y M B I O T I K A. Um, I'm not really on any other social media platform except Instagram. All the social media stuff is kind of ridiculous. I got to be honest, but there is a beauty to it. And it's a way to convey to an audience and to really embody your truth. And I live my truth on there every single day whenever I'm using it. Sometimes I'm off of it for a couple of weeks.

Sometimes I'm on it three times a day. I just go with the flow with it. And I really like to share certain things and embody certain things. So I'm on Instagram. It's a Chervin, C-H-E-R-V-I-N three, three, three. We can get into numerology next time and start going down some of those things. Um, yeah, it's, uh, you know, numbers don't lie. And so, everybody start opening your eyes, opening your heart, open your ears, and wake the fake up, because you're not alone. Love you forever. Love you, my brother. Thank you so much for being a part of this. We'll do it again. Absolutely. Aho.