Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #180 JP Sears

Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, y'all, we're back with my dude, JP Sears. And JP Sears has been on, I think this is his third episode on the podcast. He's been on a tear lately for everybody that's watching from home. All the videos that he's been putting out have been absolutely incredible. We are going to have several links here because we talk about some stuff that does need to be verified. So we got just check the show notes for links to Dell Big Tree stuff and a couple of different posts, rather, as we talk about the deep state in the world at large. And more importantly or equally importantly, we talk about the shift in consciousness that's taking place. And I just love JP's perspective.

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Starting point is 00:07:37 So a lot's transpired since you've been on the show last. You've been on a couple times. You came on once with a sixsome. We had with our homie Dr. Kirk Parsley, and then we had all the ladies around us. And then- That was a podcast orgy, I think we can call it. Yeah, it was massive. That's the most mics I've ever had in our mouths at the same time, I think. It was. Yeah, a few times, man. There's a lot that's been going down, obviously, since then. And that's Captain Obvious speaking.

Starting point is 00:08:07 But I mean a lot personally in your life. And that's why I wanted to get you on, because you've introduced me to some people who have introduced me to more people. And they've been very important people. And we've had some really important conversations on our podcast. And you've taken, I think, the first wave of shit for that from big tech. And obviously, you have a massive following from your comedy and from being the brilliant, amazing human that you are. But you've been on the front lines first,

Starting point is 00:08:36 and you've really given me permission to join you in that. And I really appreciate that from you, brother, big time. Hell yeah, man. Well, thank you for giving yourself permission and blaming me for it. But yeah, man, I'm honored because I have so much respect for you and I'm not just jerking you off here. But yeah, man, to hear you'd have even a little bit of inspiration seeing what I'm doing to step up your game in contributing to the awakening that the world needs. I'm honored to hear that.

Starting point is 00:09:06 Hell yeah, brother. Well, let's unpack that a little bit. I mean, most people right now are familiar. We had, thanks to you, Mickey Willis on the podcast. And then I went out and got Del Bigtree on and started talking about vaccines for the first time ever. Obviously that was... I'm already triggered, Kyle. Jesus. Quite fucking taboo. You know, like I had, I remember when bear was born,

Starting point is 00:09:28 we had people ask, you know, on Facebook and we were like, we're just holding off for now, you know, and that started such a huge debate in a lot of posturing around the known science and everybody who's a scientist came out and, and all these,

Starting point is 00:09:44 my uncle's a doctor and yeah i've got fucking aunts and uncles that are doctors and cousins and anesthesiologists and stanford grads and all that shit and they don't subscribe to what i'm talking about but it's our child and we're still going to do what we feel is best for our child and um the point in bringing that story up is that was five years ago and we really went underground and we're like oh we're not touching that one and anybody that we were friends with who had researched and learned from the same people we had from the Dr. Joe Mercolos of the world from Paul Cech you know who's a close friend of ours and a mentor I remember when Ben Greenfield

Starting point is 00:10:23 I was still working it on it at the time, he was on Twitter and he had had another person. He'd probably had two or three people on it at that point fairly recently. And several others in the past that I had learned from, from the Ben Greenfield fitness podcast, like Dr. Sherry Tenpenny and others that pretty much just laid it out there. Like, no, these aren't safe. And there's no such thing as herd immunity unless it's a natural immunity that takes place by people actually getting sick and working their way through that. And he was annihilated on Twitter. And I was like, fuck, dude.

Starting point is 00:10:57 It's still too sticky to touch. And the point in bringing all this up is that now, and I know you feel this way, and I certainly have been made aware of this, is that we're in a point in time where the people who know cannot remain silent. There is no more biting our tongue in hopes of not losing whatever fan base or not getting kicked off of Instagram or any of that shit. It is like the time is now to speak. And with that, I know you've really led the way on this with having Mickey on the podcast, but talk a little bit about that. How did you get turned on to Mickey? And what has that been like for you in all of the social media channels, YouTube,

Starting point is 00:11:38 all that stuff? Yeah. Well, man, first I have to echo something you said that gave me freaking goosebumps. The people that know can't remain silent anymore. I so believe that we're in a time where we're in a magical time where things are either going to get much worse or we're going to have a much better life come out of this, you know, time of that's kind of shitty, but compost, hopefully. So I think there are some people out there who are still playing it safe. And it's truly a fear-based living saying like, hey, I've got this audience and my heart believes one thing. My heart maybe doesn't believe what the media is trying to sell us on. We have to lock down the pandemic and all the vaccines are good. My heart doesn't believe that, but I'm not going to speak my

Starting point is 00:12:32 true heart to my audience because I'm afraid of losing some of my audience. Fuck that person. They don't deserve to be followed anymore because we're not living in an age of safety. We're living in an age of risk where I think right now the most dangerous thing anybody can do is play it safe. So that an influencer or celebrity out there who's playing it safe, I think they're a very dangerous influence. But those like yourself who will talk about vaccines, the truth as you see it, those who play it dangerously, I think they're the safest people to be around because we're echo our friend, Tim Kennedy,

Starting point is 00:13:12 his wise saying, we're living in a time where you have two choices, either peaceful slavery or dangerous freedom. But the peaceful slavery, I truly think that's the danger zone. But what feels like dangerous freedom, bro, freedom is maybe the most nourishing thing to the human heart and soul. So with that said, I have that opinion that there's some people stepping it up and it's so inspiring and then there's some people who are in a position of influence who are modeling a fear-based way of living and i can relate to that because now getting to your question back in probably late late March, early April, when it became apparent to me, the narrative we're being sold isn't accurate. Like, oh, like the numbers we're seeing aren't what they originally predicted in the middle of March. And okay, like I'm, obviously some people are dying of the sickness or flu-like

Starting point is 00:14:23 symptoms as they do every year. But nonetheless, obviously, it was happening to a degree with COVID, but not nearly at a rate that we were told. It's like, oh, this is awesome. Like, it's good news. But we're being gaslit by the powers that be, and the reaction isn't being pulled back. It's being enforced on us more. So I started to wake up like, all right, something's going on. Somebody is acting in a way that's not in the best interest of the people. So I became very inspired. I remember one night I was going to bed. I have this idea for this video I have to make. And it was the first video I made on the topic of what's going on in 2020 and COVID specifically. But first video I made that was looking to shine the light

Starting point is 00:15:13 on the hidden truth. And it was called what it's like to believe everything the media tells you. So I had that idea going to bed. I'm like, dude, I got to make this. Like I rearranged my schedule because I wanted to write it in the morning, shoot it and release it that night. But I had this fear. I'm like, dude, this is, this is dramatically against the mainstream narrative. I can feel in my heart it's for the people though. Yet I'm still scared. Like it is, especially back in early April, it is not fucking popular to go against the mainstream narrative of COVID. Like it was, it's kind of like normal now. Most people are not buying into the mainstream narrative, but back then it was like, you're the black sheep, you're the Holocaust denier. So I was afraid, like, I'm, I'm going to lose some of my audience. Like,

Starting point is 00:16:05 this might be bad for business. But there was no question. I've got to make this video. I got to keep following this new call to step up and serve to a greater level. So I made the video, and then a flood of other videos and material came in since to help support the awakening of humanity. And an interesting thing happened where without the intention to do so, honoring the truth and being bold and doing what scares me more has been the best thing I've ever done for business. My audience has never had such exponential growth. Yet I had that fear, just like some of the people who are afraid to actually speak the truth, their truth of what's going on. I had the same fear. And for me, just through the grace of probably how I've lived my life, I didn't enslave myself to that fear. I

Starting point is 00:17:03 chose to take the action that would actually make the fear more intense, but I was like, cool, I'll sit on the sweat lodge of this fear because I know I'm doing this for a greater good. Man. And then, yeah, since then, I mean, it feels like my life has transformed. It feels like my work has transformed, which I so love. It's more fulfilling than ever and hopefully in more of service to humanity than ever before. And that's led me to have the pleasure of getting connected with Mickey Willis. I mean, someone, I don't know if there's anyone, any other single person whose work is more important in this time we live in than Mickey

Starting point is 00:17:45 Willis is I'm sure all your listeners have watched, but you know, especially his second film indoctrination, like do that as just must see just pulling the curtain back on what's going on. So dude, and then, you know, it's awesome to see you. It's oh yeah kyle's work has transformed that's not the kyle of 2019 like what you've always been doing is awesome but you're doing something that serves humanity at a greater degree than just biohacking if you will and inspiration it's like dude no you're you're liberating people yeah it feels good to serve that mission with you. It really does, brother. It really does.

Starting point is 00:18:28 And it's funny to see even when I meet new people and they're like, oh, what's your podcast about? And I'm like, eh, well, I didn't change the categories. It's still health and fitness. But it's gone from physical to mental, emotional to spiritual health. All things health. And a part of that is knowing what is true with a capital T, you know, and, and as I think about these things, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't negate like Paul check talked about that with me.

Starting point is 00:18:55 I remember the first time we had him out here, he was going to go on Aubrey's podcast and my podcast and Aubrey wanted to make sure we didn't have too much of the same topic. So we kind of had a split and he got the better end of the deal because he was going to talk about what the purpose of the devil, right? All spiritual, the purpose of the devil and dark, dark energy, whatever you want to call that. And for me, it was, you know, last four doctors you'll ever need pretty much basic building blocks of how to live better. And Paul, Paul looked at me and he was like, you know, in all my years of doing this, I'm really quite tired of talking about that stuff. You know,

Starting point is 00:19:30 like I'm going to do it with you. Cause I love you. And I know you love me and it's, it's super important, but, but, um, you know, I like talking about God. I like talking about plant medicine. I'm like, dude, I'm in the same fucking boat, you know? And, uh, and it's funny because you, you can't overlook that stuff. I i mean part of that is the problem as we look at everything going on mercola just had a brilliant article i'll have jose linked to in the show notes on what one potential future looks like from big tech where we we already see this going on right now but uh who is behind impossible burger bill gates uh the james cameron you know a lot of this Hollywood types and genetically modified foods and glyphosate and all this stuff. And it's like, well, when that,

Starting point is 00:20:12 if no one's going to speak out about, speak out about that, like that, that just becomes a new norm. Like I remember when, when Chipotle said they would no longer have genetically modified food and that include changing some of their soft drinks. And there was so much uproar from the corporations that work with them, they weren't allowed to post that anymore. And so after a couple of months, all the signs came down. And I had a buddy who was a manager there, and he was like, yeah, it's weird.

Starting point is 00:20:39 This was like a thing we were really gung-ho about that was going to differentiate us from the rest of the fast-ish-ish food restaurants and that got shut down whole foods same deal right whole foods is like no if you got they were going to have clear labels i remember that with whole foods right yeah so it's like like you think of these power structures and that's the whole deal you know it it took me a minute to really understand and grasp how deep this goes. What is this deep state people speak of? What is corporatocracy or technocracy? Because the people I'm hearing it from, there's a little bit of quackery there, at least on the surface.

Starting point is 00:21:19 I've listened to David Icke before and talking about transhumanism and things like that. I'm like, oh oh that's interesting but you know when he really when he first went on London Real during quarantine I was like this is a fucking either a really hard pill to swallow that resonates a little too much or he's totally off and everything's cool and the further the time went on, the more right he became. We started seeing, I told you, we bought our house here in Austin near the airport. In November, we moved in of 2019. Every streetlight has a camera on it. And the homes are smart homes. They give you free Alexa.

Starting point is 00:21:58 Here you go with your smart home, free Alexa. And it's got the little camera in it. You can speak to her, all this stuff. And you get into that. And one of the things he said when it's continued to say and he'll tell you he's been saying it for 30 years is that uh if you want to know the future look to the east look to China right if you want to know the future of the west look to the east and I had seen Mercola was on Chex podcast and he was talking about the creepy line, a documentary on Amazon. Have you seen that? I have not.

Starting point is 00:22:30 It's brilliant. It's all on Google. It's funny that it's on Amazon, but it's all on Google. And they really dive into how they are the number one surveillance company in the world. And they were exposed. They got in trouble for all of their driverless cars and Googlers' cars. I grew up right down the street from their headquarters.

Starting point is 00:22:50 They're all driving around mapping the earth, right? They got their little cameras spinning around, and what they were doing is anybody who had an unlocked Wi-Fi router, they would steal all of their information and store it as they fucking drove by their house. They got a slap on the wrist when they were proven to be guilty of this they paid a very small fine and what why is that because they're fucking they own the government our government is for sale yeah but connecting all these dots has been like a

Starting point is 00:23:18 really hard pill to swallow but at the same time it's better to understand it and to say yes to it to then understand what we're up against in the way that we look to create the new world going forward yeah that was a long ass tangent that took many turns but yeah man yeah it's that's creepy beyond belief and you know like i look at some of the what i would call the common denominators of the problems that are going on. Because now we've got, obviously we've had COVID for a while, big tech surveillancing people, big tech censoring people, media censoring people, media having election propaganda now where Biden has announced the clear winner by the Associated Press, but who actually is legally supposed to declare the

Starting point is 00:24:07 elections are the Electoral College of the Senate, House of Representatives, and National Archives. They haven't declared the winner yet as of this recording, yet we've got this inundation, Biden's the president, Biden's the president, which I think is setting us up for a civil war if Trump actually proves to be the legal winner, probably a far shot, but it could happen. So I look at the common denominators, like what these problems, and there's so many of them and like these powerful people taking control over the beautiful people. I think the number one problem is people outsourcing their truth. So when we have a search on Google and something comes up, we'll believe it like it's gospel. We turn on the news, listen to them. Hey, deaths are severe. And we look around, it's like, dude, life is good. Human connection

Starting point is 00:25:00 feels good to me. My heart isn't telling me to not live my life because of this thing, but let me surrender my freedoms because they just told me to. That's us outsourcing our truth. And I think the best way any human can serve themselves right now, it's not by finding one specific truth. You got to believe this. These people are right. These people are wrong. It's they got to learn to listen to their own fucking truth. And that's, I've been an advocate for people like, dude, like I'm very careful. I'm not trying to indict like, dude, no, that point of view is wrong. Here's the right point of view. I like to slice holes in the mainstream manipulative narratives so people can see through the holes and hopefully see their own truth. And I don't think

Starting point is 00:25:55 the world will become like North Korea here in the West if people get in touch with their own truth. Because I think the only way the few can control the many is when people externalize their truth to the few. And I think what compels someone to externalize their truth to the few that want control is fear. But I think if we can act out of love, specifically love for the truth in our hearts, then we're not really controllable. And man, I think we need more people listening to their own hearts right now. No question. That brings up a couple of things for me. When I talk about Civil War, in the documentary film uh v for vendetta by the wachowskis just i i watched that for the first time a couple months ago like what was this just

Starting point is 00:26:52 made today for today that was i think it was done 10 years ago but it was specific to 2020 i think it was 15 i want to say 2005 i could be a little long, but it was a while ago. Right after the documentary, The Matrix. And same writers, the Wachowskis. So they're a little tuned in. They know what's going on. In that, it takes place in the UK. And they're under house arrest, curfew. They're not allowed out at night.

Starting point is 00:27:19 They have many restrictions. There's a new developmental vaccine that are making everybody docile. Yeah. And the news religiously feeds them what's true. Uh-huh. And it's from like one source. Yeah. You have one source of news, which is pretty much what's going on right now. But in that, remember, the United States was what? They call it the former United States is still in civil war.

Starting point is 00:27:43 That's right. They were fighting. Right. And I think about that. I don't think it ever could come down to a North Korea just for the fact that there's too many people in Texas alone who would fight. Right. And, and I don't, again, I don't think it's going to come to that either, but we have to, we have to marry these sides together in some way that, that works.

Starting point is 00:28:03 And Daniel Schmachtenberger has been great about that in the war on sense-making and learning how to steel man someone's argument rather than straw man someone's argument, like really understand what the opposition wants to get in their argument better than they argue it, right? And then what does that do? At the very least, Jordan Peterson talked about this, at the very least, it helps you to understand

Starting point is 00:28:23 where they're coming from. But what you're talking about, the second piece that I wanted to get to is so very important. How do we know our own truth? How do we connect to our hearts? And whether it's been systematically taken away from us through education, programming, learning how to be cogs in the wheel, through our disconnection from nature, through our disconnection from food, or all the other ways, pharmaceuticals, the many thousands of ways that we're disconnected from that. What are some of the practices that bridges back? Because I mean, this is in all my work with plant medicines and yours, of course, as well. It seems to me the common thread, no matter how the experience goes, whether it's a microdose or a macrodose,

Starting point is 00:29:04 that it's building that bridge. So I can know something. I don't have to say, yeah, that sounds right. There's no download that comes in on 30 grams of mushrooms where I'm like, that feels like that's the right answer. It's like, it's fucking known. It is known. And it's absolutely irrefutable from whatever knowing that I have inside. It becomes crystal clear. And I think that bridge can be made. Obviously, you don't need 30 grams of mushrooms, but how do we get back to that bridge of our own understanding? Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:29:35 Well, first off, I'm a clumsy, redheaded Yahoo fumbling my way through life, so I'm not going to act like a 10th degree black belt in following his heart. It's like, no, dude, I've forrestgumped my way through life. So I'm not going to act like a 10th degree black belt and following his heart. I was like, no, dude, I've Forrest Gumped my way through, follow my heart as best as I can, but it's sloppy as fuck and definitely not perfect. But I'm happy to share my delusional perspectives on that. And for me, first is knowing what our truth is not. And there's a quote, I probably say it every single day in my life from Ram Dass, which is, you can't get out of a jail you don't know you're in. So I think we, what that means for me in this context is to find our own truth, we first have to recognize the programming that's coming into our mind. And I'm not talking about conspiracy. Wow,

Starting point is 00:30:25 they're all mind controlling you, even though they probably fucking are. I'm even talking about like when you're a kid, you know, your parents values that come into your mind, like their ways of life, their wishes for your life, the shoulds. We got to recognize like what, what is other people's psychological material that my brain is carrying? So we recognize what our truth is. And we see something on the news, like, ah, that doesn't feel true to me. So we recognize what is not authentically ours. Cause like, if you're being just be dramatic, if you're being brainwashed, you became automatically way less brainwashed once you recognize the brainwashing that's going on. And then dude, for me, the, and I'll say this simply with no practical application,

Starting point is 00:31:14 and then hopefully we can create some practicality out of it, but simply said, we got to get out of our heads and into our hearts. We know the electromagnetic, this is proven by heart math, the electromagnetic field of the heart is 5,000 times stronger than that of the brain. And if you just imagine what that could mean is maybe the real truth isn't harbored in our head, memorized by our left brain. Maybe that's like facts and stats. It does things like that. But maybe the bigger, less tangible truths that therefore matter more, those come through our heart, you know, our biofeedback mechanism of our body. I know when I'm feeling a truth or an untruth, it's all in my body. You know, a hot video idea comes in like,

Starting point is 00:32:07 this will really serve people. Like I notice my chest gets lighter. There's a sensation I would call excitement in there. It's not in my head. It's in my body. If my awareness is in my body. And then if I hear something or something's told to me that is not my truth, like it, it tends to feel heavy. There tends to be a drop. And I, every, I know every single person has access to this, this biofeedback mechanism that is way more advanced than anything Elon Musk can create. And it's called your body. The question is, is your awareness attuned to the beautiful, miraculous, very accurate feedback your body is giving you? Or is your awareness not tuned in?

Starting point is 00:33:00 Is your awareness kind of getting rubbed in the shitty carpet of the mainstream narrative, the shitty carpet of what your parents, society wants of your life, rather than the truth of what life wants of you? So, man, I think we got to be in our bodies. And you mentioned, you know, plant medicines, like first off 30 grams of mushroom, holy fuck. I do want to hear what your experience is, but I think, you know, plant medicines, mushrooms being one of the more accessible ones, that is a powerful way to start shattering the membrane of a lack of awareness that keeps us from our bodies, our sensations that speak the language of truth to us. I'm not saying go do plant medicines, but I'm not not saying go do plant medicines.

Starting point is 00:33:55 But I'm curious your perspective on the same question of how can one get more in touch with their truth? Yeah, I think exactly what you're talking about is spot on. I was just watching Initiation with Matthias DeStefano on Gaia.tv. I haven't seen that. Oh, dude, it's fucking amazing. You and Amber would love it. It's incredible. I've had a sea of people say, you have to watch this. So that's my recommendation for the listeners as well as you and Amber. It's incredible. But he was talking about that too. One of the ways they would know is through the heart, because the heart, you feel, you don't just think, right? and it does have a deeper knowing and um paul check talked about

Starting point is 00:34:47 that way back in the day on one of my podcasts how humanity we move from these different levels in the structure stages of consciousness and the idea as we graduate to the next is that we incorporate all of the other levels that still exist but what we've done in the mental is we've negated the archetypical we've negated the archetypical. We've negated all these other levels of awareness through symbology, through story, through all the things that got us here. And we fixated and become scientific materialists and looked at things as black and white rather than seeing the beautiful gray of all the vast grayness in between. And there are practices, I think, you know, and, um, there are practices,

Starting point is 00:35:26 I think that are really good, but it really is just, you can do all these practices. I did fucking yoga for years and never understood why I was doing it. I felt good doing it, but I didn't get the, I didn't get the spiritual aspect of it and I didn't get the piece of it until I got it. And same with meditation. I would sit quietly, I would feel better, but I didn't necessarily understand it. Plant medicines showed me what I was connecting to, the point behind both of those practices that require no plant medicines. And I think that's such an important piece is that Chokam Trungpa Rumpashe talked about this. I got his book, Meditation in Action, after Duncan Trussell recommended it. It's only three and a half hours and it's amazing. But he talked about

Starting point is 00:36:09 that when you know where your tuning fork is and you find your center, you then have the ability to take that in every action, right? Some might call that flow, but I mean, literally, I'm not going to find flow while I'm doing the dishes. Maybe I do, but certainly I can meditate while I'm doing the dishes. And that is a form of flow, I guess. Or mowing the lawn or driving Bear to school. Like there is a way you can find that center place. And from there, you're in the eye of the hurricane. All this shit that's happening externally, you can see through it.

Starting point is 00:36:42 And at least you're coming from a place of peace rather than a place of fear. And I don't know in our lifetimes, if that shifts, there's a lot of things on the future that I would love to dive into that get pretty weird, you know, fifth dimensional Christ consciousness, shit like that, the Hopi prophecy, that are potentials. And at the same time, no one's going to clean up this mess for us. We got to do that. Right. And so all every, every great spiritual practice talks about that. Be the change you wish to see in the world. It always starts with self. And then that self can extend out to your loved ones, family, and then that self can extend to community. And if you're in a conscious community or you have connections to your community, um, that matters too. Right.

Starting point is 00:37:24 And then we can, we can start to spread that out, and people can see templates of how that's done. But one of these things that I get talked about, again, on getting into the heart is, and he uses some really cool drawings from Neil Haig, where he shows humanity encapsulated in their own bubble. And when they walk up next to somebody, the bubbles don't connect to one another.

Starting point is 00:37:47 Even if they shake hands, it's just they're each in their own bubble. But with your heart center opened, you have this energy that we're sharing right now, face to face, that connects and links each other so we can feel into each other's state of being. And if you tell me something that is a lie or complete bullshit,

Starting point is 00:38:04 and my awareness and tuning fork is switched on, it's going to resonate immediately. And you're like, are you sure about that? You know, like I can feel into that. It goes beyond if I think it's true or not. Right. But the point isn't like we connect our hearts and then lie to one another. The point is we connect our hearts so we can engage together in life. And the more we're able to do that, the more we don't, we're not only connecting to our. And the more we're able to do that, the more we're not only connecting to our own hearts, but we're connecting to others' hearts and building true connection.

Starting point is 00:38:32 We do that with nature too. I think that's one of the best things that I've come in contact with. There's a guy named Dr. Will Tagle out in Wimberley. He's about an hour outside of town. He's 80, a medicine man, worked with many Native American elders, and he's a true elder now in every sense of the word.

Starting point is 00:38:48 He's written, I think, eight books, but he wrote one when he was 77 called Walking with Bears. And this guy has got a PhD in physics, PhD in psychology, did all the Western science, best of modern medicine, and bridged that to the wisdom of Native American culture. And one of the things he talks about is is like avatar there is everywhere we go in nature there's an eco field and the eco fields overlap and like paul check says everything in waveform is energy so if it's in the manifest

Starting point is 00:39:18 universe the world of 10 000 things it has energy and that is in formation, information in formation. So we can tune into that information. If we can calm our senses enough and get out of our heads and back into our bodies, we can tune into the messages from the plants. We can tune into the trees. And it doesn't require me eating an oak to get downloads from the oak. right so i think i think the reconnection in nature and one more point i wanted to bring up on ike was um he talked about those bubbles and he talked about what he calls the dna wars right and this happens through all the chemicals in our food supply glyphosate msg anything that pulls us off our center even over caffeinating which i do a really good job of pre-podcast right currently you know um anything that amps us up and and really you know 5g is not causing coronavirus but

Starting point is 00:40:14 it does have a much higher amplitude and to act like that doesn't affect our electromagnetic bodies is is absurd like it has an impact. All EMFs have an impact. To what degree? I'm not sure, right? I think some people are more sensitive than others, but the point is, whether it's chemicals in our food supply, whether it's, you know, volatile oxygen consumption coming off of your fake air mattress or any of these other things that we're exposed to, we're in a toxic world. And what that means outside of dis-ease is we are simply thrown off our center. And it's a matter of finding that back, which requires us detoxing, cleaning up our food, what we ingest, cleaning up our attention span of what we ingest

Starting point is 00:40:58 mentally, right? Like what is coming in? What am I watching at night that actually can shift me off center or bring me closer to home? And I think all of these things either have the ability to bring us back to our center or take us further off. And that's my piece on connecting, but it is to the body. Yeah. You mentioned the sea world, word, sea world. Jesus, I'm thinking about captive whales. Kind of a metaphor for humanity right now. Limp fins. But yeah, but you mentioned the sea world, Jesus fucking Christ, JP, learn to talk. I think I just

Starting point is 00:41:33 had a stroke. That's why I can't talk. But the sea word connection, you know, connection to ourselves. And you mentioned like our energy bubbles, like we're connecting with other people and we can kind of tune in like, Ooh, that feels like a manipulation or that feels like, ooh, that's great connective truth for me. Yet if connection is truly our solution to finding our truth and engaging with a truth or lack of truth in other people, then it kind of makes sense when you look at the people who are literally controlling other people now. They're telling us in so many words, connection is bad for us. And I think you and I would agree. Connection is great for us. Connection is enlivening, but we're literally being taught connection is actually

Starting point is 00:42:27 deadly. So don't connect with other people. And what that actually says to me is a translation, which is don't trust your truth. So we're actually trying to train you to not connect with your truth because you need connection in order to connect with your truth because you need connection in order to connect with your truth. And if you're disconnected from your truth, guess what? Our bullshit will sure as hell sound a lot more true because it's all you've got. So men, you know, like when I feel my experience of the energy of, say, Anthony Fauci, it feels like manipulation to me. My biofeed mechanism, that it doesn't at all have the sensation of truth.

Starting point is 00:43:16 It feels like manipulation. There's no zero resonance with anything coming out of his mouth. Yeah, and that doesn't tell me what's his agenda, who's controlling him, what's he actually doing? You know, you can like watch indoctrination, find out Mickey Willis's in-depth investigation, but you know, my internal, like, oh, that's bullshit. It doesn't tell me what, what his motivation is. It just tells me what he's saying isn't for me to ingest as truth. And I think we're living in a time where getting fucking bold with permission is a great thing because so many of us could, who have walked any degree of self-growth, warriorship, spirituality. For years, we've probably been sitting around saying like,

Starting point is 00:44:07 hey, don't wait for anybody to give you permission to go out and do it. Just go out and do it. And a lot of those same people right now are fucking hiding inside saying, okay, well, they told us not to get together with my family. So mom and dad will get together when they tell us we can. Now, it's time to put what we've known in great self-growth philosophy, to put that into action. Because we realize with not only living our lives, but also following our truths, zero other people are going to give you permission to do it. The empowerment comes when we claim what's been ours all along, when we claim permission to follow our truth, to live our lives. Because right now, sitting around waiting for someone to grant you permission

Starting point is 00:45:02 to live your truth, go gather with your family, keep your fucking business open, you're going to be doing a lot of waiting and a lot of maybe what's not in your best interest. But when we claim our right to give ourselves permission boldly to follow our truth, to follow our heart, then I think that's what's serving us. Because again, outsourcing our truth, outsourcing our permission, I don't think that's working. I think we start to feel meaningful in our lives, purposeful, fulfilled, and I dare say happy, even during a weird time when we inner source our truth inner source our permission but it's scary to do that yeah big time absolutely

Starting point is 00:45:54 it's it's you know on a podcast level and i'm sure you spoke to this early and i know you feel this in your own podcast but it feels a hell of a lot better to be able to have Mickey Willis on and different people, Del Bigtree, Dr. David E. Martin came on, bow tie guy, absolutely brilliant, bow tie guy. His book, Lizards Eat Butterflies is hilarious and all on programming. And it's one of the best books I've read all year. Just incredible. But that has me more excited about podcasting than the next diet tip or meditate and not to shit on meditation, all of these things, even diet, all these things, super important. Emily Fletcher is going to come on and we're going to talk meditation, you know, when she gets into town and, and we're going to talk food when we have Anna from Belcampo on,

Starting point is 00:46:43 when she's coming to town so again still super important but the thing that wakes me up in the morning where i'm like oh fuck yeah we get to have this conversation today right and that's that's a conversation like we're having right now um it's important and i thank all the listeners who have stuck with it and been like oh okay you know i mean i've gotten some feedback from friends who follow and they're like, even one of my buddies, Sabo, out in NorCal, where I'm from, he's got family in Taiwan. And he's like, well, look, Asian culture, we've been wearing masks for a long time and we got hit less hard. And it just seems like that's a correlation. And I told him to listen to, you know, the podcast that that what's Tony Robbins had with seven medical doctors.

Starting point is 00:47:24 It's phenomenal. Fucking phenomenal. Right phenomenal, right? And I linked to that in the show notes, and I just said, look, none of these guys, Cleveland Clinic, Stanford, none of them say anything works. At the N95 level, doesn't work for a virus. Works great for bacteria, not for viruses.

Starting point is 00:47:38 And we're allowed to wear bandanas and whatever the fuck we want. You put a throw a t-shirt over my face, right? Like clearly this is not the thing. And I i said maybe it has to do with those cultures like in taiwan and japan being healthier than the obese society we live in right now here in america you know like to just put it plainly maybe that has more to do with it um but you know there's been back and forth and people have come and here we are But it is an exciting time. And something that Joyous told me, he was on the podcast last, which I think was absolutely

Starting point is 00:48:11 brilliant, was that I asked him, what happens on either side of the coin flip? Because depending on who you're listening to now, you will hear Trump's got him by the balls. He figured this out in 2018, that there was was election meddling and he baited him. And we're going to see this come to fruition and Trump is for sure going to be president. Or all that's QAnon bullshit, right wing conspiracy theory stuff, and Biden's getting in no matter what. And so what happens on either side of that coin and what he said is we either get to see beauty come from more truth being unveiled or we get to see beauty come from more truth being

Starting point is 00:48:53 unveiled you know that's paraphrasing but it's it's like either way if shit hits the fan we have fucking more lockdowns whatever the case is we going to know what we're up against really quickly. It might feel abrupt. All this has felt abrupt. Or we might get to see some arrests being made and shit actually hitting the fan and the weeding of the garden that Trump has claimed he was doing all along. Either way, we're going to see massive change happen.

Starting point is 00:49:21 And one of the things that he talked about that really resonated with me was life is a ceremony and this whole year has been a ceremony. And what this is right now, what we're experiencing as a collective is the purge. We're in the purge. This isn't the fun part, but we all know what happens after the purge, right? We know what comes after that, the grace, the beauty, the understanding. Right now, we've got to shit. We've got to throw up. We've got to get our bodies and our minds squeezed as tightly as possible to see every crack from financial to education, to food, to how we relate to one another, to the constant going from one box to another, to the box in our hands, to the box of

Starting point is 00:50:04 the car, the box of the office, the box of the TV, all these little boxes that disconnect us that we think help us connect, but aren't the way. Yeah. Dude, that feels so good. I need to re-listen to this part of the podcast probably every day for the next many months. But I love Joyce's perspective because I'll find myself getting pessimistic at times. Like, dude, like, are we going to wake up and not really wake up, but is this going to be a slow progressive thing? We're in five years. We're literally living in North Korea, except everybody's speaking English. It's hopeless, even though like I'm doing my best,

Starting point is 00:50:45 and I know many other people are doing their best. And I think humanity is at a point where they're unwilling to be controlled or about to be unwilling to be controlled. But fuck, it looks like a really steep uphill battle. But that context of, no, this is the purge. When you're in the purge, it might feel dark. It might feel hopeless. But what comes after the purge, as you mentioned, like, oh yeah. And like, how would that not happen? Because like, it's an energy pattern. And I think one thing that I couldn't predict, and I don't know if anybody can, is how long will this purge be? Is it three more months? Is it three more years?

Starting point is 00:51:35 Is it 30 years? I don't know. But one thing I do know about purges is trying to escape them while they're still going on is living hell. Being present with the purge while it's going on without trying to go into the future to when it's over, how long is it going to be? When's it going into a challenge, which I think is a reminder I need. Because at times I get pessimistic, like fucking Bill Gates, like, dude, that guy's got a lot of money to control a lot of shit. Yeah. Not a good character. Well, maybe not. But it's weird. When you think about the people who are maybe acting in the disinterest of humanity, there's so few of them compared to how many beautiful people there are.

Starting point is 00:52:40 And we've all been asleep. And some of us are waking up a little bit. Some are a little ahead. But I think the human spirit inside of every single person wants to wake up. It's like you go to bed at night. It's only a matter of time before you wake up. That's what's natural and needed and will happen with everybody. So yeah, I do think we have great hope.

Starting point is 00:53:03 And I so appreciate that reminder. Yeah. One of the things that's helped me with this, because I was a fucking mess for the first six weeks. I talked about just fucking running ketamine pretty consistently at very high doses to try to get answers in the astral and not really giving space to the medicine or grounding it, learning a lot from that experience as well but there's this idea that whether where it's like like what i tell somebody about ayahuasca ayahuasca gives you what you need and if you've had the hardest life possible you don't go in on

Starting point is 00:53:37 night one and relive every rape every beating every you know watching your parents get killed you know batman scenario you don't get it. You don't get the kitchen sink because nobody goes through one ceremony and heals completely, right? It's the flowering of our consciousness is forever. It's infinite. So you're not going to get it all in one whack, but you get what you need in layers, right? Like peeling layers of an onion. And the mirror of that microcosm of the intelligence of ayahuasca or any other plant medicine is mirrored in the macrocosm of life. I used to think that was kind of a cheesy thing, like God only gives you what you need.

Starting point is 00:54:17 You'll know when you're there that you're strong enough because God knows, and it's like, oh, okay. But if we're not separate from God, which has been a critical download and deleting some of the programming I was born with, and I recognize that and I know it as a truth for me, then it can just as easily be said that the God in you, your high self, your daemon, whatever you call that soul, spirit that is connected to the all at all times, as our physical bodies are, also knows that. And also knows that whatever we're getting, we are prepared for. We can make it through the challenge. All we have to do is say yes.

Starting point is 00:54:57 And if we say no and peace out and commit suicide or drown ourselves in alcohol, that's okay too, right? Not the move I'm going to take, but all is forgiven, all is okay, and there's all just ways of God knowing itself. So whatever choice we make is ultimately going to be just fine in the grand scheme of things. But my understanding of walking this path is that mirror, that whatever's presented in front of me is just enough, and I can handle the challenge, and i'm going to make it through that better so when i look of what would it take i used to think about this like when i first did ayahuasca like everyone needs to do this and then it was like no maybe

Starting point is 00:55:34 maybe everybody doesn't need to do this this has been some really rough nights and i feel prepped and i've had good guides um what would it take is is a global pressure cooker yeah it would take something like this it would take something that that is a you know outside of a you know an asteroid hitting the earth and having a global catastrophe it would take something that would cause so much pressure and so much stress all over the world that we would be forced to analyze every crack that's in the system that we would be forced to take a hard look at our lives and understand what's working what's not working and see all the shit and mourn that grieve that say fuck this happened how'd we get here you know and just like v for vendetta you'll ask yourselves how this came to be yeah look in the mirror yeah right because

Starting point is 00:56:21 all of us have been complicit to some extent. All of us had said yes, through our ignorance, through our ignoring of what's actually happening to be in the position that we're in. And with that ownership and responsibility, we're then gifted the ability to change it. We're then now not in the place of victimhood. We move into the place of co-creator again. Yeah. And that's inspiring for me. Fuck yeah. And both globally and locally, the individual, like all the cracks in our social systems, the banks, corruption, I love that exposure. And I think how fast we realize that and it gets transmuted into something more beautiful that serves people better. I think the speed of that is dependent on each individual doing that within themselves. You know, I look at the, you know, I always curse darkness when I'm wrapped up in it

Starting point is 00:57:20 while forgetting like, yeah, this is actually a blessing, not a curse. This, what feels like darkness is showing me my shadow. I can actually, and I've done this too much during the pandemic. I've escaped my own self-work by only thinking globally vaccine agenda. Shit. Uh, I can Gavin Newsom in California. What the fuck is that guy thinking? But that's escaping myself if that's all I'm focusing on. I want to be aware of that, the global. I think that's important. But also, I've got to be aware of locally within myself. And I've noticed, dude, the darkness of this pandemic,

Starting point is 00:57:58 I'm proud to say I've legitimately fucking grown as you have, where just at the professional level, instead of playing it safe of like, dude, I'm doing comedy on like spirituality and like health, like stuff that's safe, dude, I have, this darkness has helped me get in touch with a, a strong warrior energy in me that I wasn't connected with before. And that's taken a lot of courage. There's been trials and tribulations, fears I've had to go through in order to connect with that warrior energy, yet I never would have known it was there and that it was wanting to be connected with without the darkness of the pandemic happening. And I think everybody has had opportunities, their versions of what I've gone through, and I've gone through many others

Starting point is 00:58:56 in different aspects of my life. Your courage, you're like, I am called to talk about vaccines. Cool. If times were easy, would there have been the darkness necessary to motivate you to step even deeper into the light of your heart? Who knows? But I can say- Probably not. Yeah, it's like Robert Kiyosaki and his wife said,

Starting point is 00:59:20 the surest way to, and this is butchering it now the worst thing you can have is a steady salary yeah for financial reasons right that's because you're complacent right and so the same goes for life if everything's fucking cool and it's smooth sailing there's not a lot of growth in that there's no there's no growth when i'm squatting 45 pounds on the bar like i gotta add some weight to it indeed there's an old proverb that says calm waters make lousy sailors yeah that's flawless yeah brother when you're speaking about the darkness and i know i just brought this up last podcast with joyous but it's brilliant i sat with a guy uh jason who was i met down at spirit quest with Aubrey in 2018, one of Don Howard's last time serving Guachuma.

Starting point is 01:00:05 And he's since been carrying Don Howard's medicine with the recipe from Don Howard and the gift of him. And a beautiful guy. But one thing he said in a prayer was the darkness serves the light. And back to this show initiation with Matthias DeStefano, he talks about that in his second episode, Duality, how we look at these things as, oh, the light must be good because that's daytime and it's safe and he's like it's not

Starting point is 01:00:30 he goes rewind spirituality to biology when our biological ancestors are here on this planet there is a fear associated with night because there are fucking dark scary monsters that actually exist that will eat us and rip our wives from our hands and mangle them in front of us and we hear their screams until they're eaten to death that shit happened for a very long time darkness is bad light is good and there is the genetic encoding of that right but and when we ascribe this to spirituality what we see and he shows he puts a he's a great metaphor he has a light bulb on a stand like my tripod here in the center of a room and behind it's a white wall and when he stands in the center it's equal light to equal shadow behind him but as he chases

Starting point is 01:01:17 the light what happens the light diminishes and the shadow grows right everything always looking to balance us yin and yang. And if we're focused on the darkness, the light will expand. If we're focused on the light, the dark will expand. So it's a good idea to find that center point and know that all of these things are here for us, right? All of these things are here to allow us to grow and allow us to experience. And just thinking about that has really helped me.

Starting point is 01:01:48 The Rumi quote, one of my favorite poems, there is a field outside of good and bad, just pass right and wrong, I'll meet you there. That's the deal. And it's been hard for me too, because a big piece of this is, you can't there, there, you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's a lot of good messages in Christianity and Judaism and in, uh, Muslim, you know, in, in Islam and understanding what are those things that we can piece, you know, what are the gems here? One of the gems is to not judge, you know, and we see this, the further divide divisive we get, the more blame and resentment and finger pointing we have. And one of the keys to getting to the middle of that, as Douglas Murray points out in The Madness of Crowds, which is fucking best book I've read all year by far, is that we have to be able to forgive ourselves first in order to be able to forgive anyone else. If we don't have self-compassion, we have no compassion for other people. So instead of seeing the Bill Gates as an evildoer or the second coming of Hitler or

Starting point is 01:02:51 any of that shit, is to say, I bet if I'm Bill Gates and I am a part of a long family bloodline of eugenics and I am focused on removing a large portion of the population and I have ted talks talking about the very thing that i'm trying to do right now not hiding it from anybody hiding in plain sight if that's me i think i'm doing a pretty good job i think it's important to do that job thanos in the avengers didn't think he was great he didn't think like this is nuts but i feel called to kill half of all life in the universe. He thought this is how he'll help life proliferate because the ones that remain will truly get to

Starting point is 01:03:31 live. Right. So they're not, no one other than a psychopath maybe is going to sit there and think like, I'm going to do evil for the sake of evil. Right. They probably think that they're on track. They probably think there's a re there's good reasoning, solid reasoning in the mind, not in the heart, to commit the crime that they're committing. A hundred percent. And if we, let's just say we imagine the truth of Bill Gates is, like you said, he thinks he's doing good. I'm sure he's doing some good. Yet some of what he's doing is actually harmful. He's not aware of that. I think that's beautiful compassion to have for him. And then I think how we can

Starting point is 01:04:12 ingest that for ourselves is we look at the pattern Bill Gates is acting out. Let's just say greed and control is underneath his conscious thought of I'm doing good. We can ask, how the fuck am I doing that in my life? Because it's so easy to pretend we're not because the literal circumstances that that exact pattern is being acted out are different. His literal circumstances involve billions of dollars, vaccines, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, his bloodlines. So we can look at that like, dude, I'm not doing well. The question is, are we aware of it? It might be like, oh yeah, I'm greedy in the sense of, um, I won't take the trash out. I always wait for my wife to do it. It's like, that can be the exact same pattern of greed and control. It's just acted out in a very different literal way. But I think when we can look at whoever we despise the most,

Starting point is 01:05:27 whoever we're most emotionally charged at, Anthony Fauci, in my case, we can look at what they're doing and ask ourselves, what's my version of it? Then we're finding compassion for a part of us that's been hidden in the shadow. And can we also have compassion for what Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, what their life might be like? And if we can do that,

Starting point is 01:05:53 the energy of compassion, I think, is what heals divisiveness. I was just writing a video this morning. The working title is called The Cure for Divisiveness, because as a nation in the US, I don't think we've ever been more divided. And the cure is compassion. And I'm presenting it in the video in the fun way, like it's the new vaccine that just has a 94% effectiveness rate. And it's something called compassion, something that's been theorized but always thought to be impossible to actually develop and here's how it works and uh so man yeah compassion bro yeah externally it doesn't mean we don't hold people accountable it doesn't mean that people aren't responsible and we don't say like hey this doesn't work and we're going to have

Starting point is 01:06:40 some accountability for the 1.6 million people you guinea pig in India and Africa each year that can no longer get pregnant. There needs to be some accountability for that. But at the same time, it's not to witness somebody as Satan incarnate. It's not to witness somebody as the Antichrist. It's to witness all of these things in the concert of life are meant to help us. And all of these things in the concert of life are meant to help us. And all of these things in the concert of life are within us, right? We are the fractal holographic in his image of God. And that means the whole fucking thing is inside of us.

Starting point is 01:07:17 So when we look out and see that other supposed other in air quotes, we are looking at a piece of us. And thankfully there's not a whole lot of them right that we got to see but it isn't so far removed jordan peterson talked about that years ago you know this idea like people have no trouble looking at nazi germany and saying how could they yeah that's ridiculous well that'll never happen again. Thank God. It's like that happened yesterday. Yesterday that fucking happened. Blink of an eye in the realm of history.

Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. Yesterday that happened. We have not evolved. Our genetics have not changed. Nothing has changed other than a generation has come. Yeah. That's it. That's the only difference, right?

Starting point is 01:08:05 So I was watching this video last night. Del Bigtree just had on the high wire. I'll have to's it. That's the only difference, right? So I was watching this video last night. Del Bigtree just had on the high wire. I'll have to find it. We'll link to it. But he was talking about Michael Yeadon, who worked for Pfizer for 20 years, I think 20 or 30 years, has a doctorate in biotech. Brilliant guy has now come out and said,

Starting point is 01:08:26 then Pfizer is developing this vaccine in the UK. And what they're doing is they're saying, it is your duty as a doctor to give this shot. And we're going to roll this out. The military is rolling it out. And they need to give a vaccine once every five minutes to get through the amount of people they need to vaccinate mandatory right but they need every doctor and then some to give them out and so he has uh he goes through michael yeadon's response to this which is like don't let anyone tell you

Starting point is 01:08:58 that a covid 19 vaccine is safe or that it's well known. It is not understood. Even through the trials, they might have three months of data of what happens afterwards. That is not long-term. No, no, we haven't seen it a year. We haven't seen it 10 years from now. We haven't seen it 20 years from now.

Starting point is 01:09:15 We haven't seen it six months from now. They know three months of what happens afterwards. Right. And it also has to be kept at minus 94 degrees fahrenheit in order for it to remain effective but the whole point in bringing that up is these doctors are talking about this as like we don't really know and now i'm being asked to do this thing well what else happened that looked kind of like that right where people were asked to serve country to do it for the greater good for the good of the all.

Starting point is 01:09:47 Are your neighbors hiding Jews? Well, let us know because you're serving your country. You're doing good. Maybe the heart says, dude, calling on my neighbors because they're hiding Jews, like that doesn't feel, but I'm told that's good. Okay, I'll outsource my truth and I'll be obedient. Dude, yeah, it rhymes. Yeah. It rhymes big time.

Starting point is 01:10:11 Man, I think the – I was listening to Rogan's podcast and he was talking about the Pfizer vaccine. And he doesn't go too in depth. Playing it straight. Yeah. It plays it pretty straight, but he did say a little something. I was like that, that that's so small yet. It means so much. He's talking about the Pfizer vaccine and the very short trials they've had. Uh, a number of the participants developed like severe headaches and, you know, I guess in the

Starting point is 01:10:46 realm of vaccines, they're considered like, oh, they're only minimal reactions, but it can be a pretty horrendous experience when you're going through it to get a vaccine. And, you know, his podcast producer, Jamie's there and he's like, you know, those symptoms, the people who got the vaccine developed, those symptoms are a lot worse than what some people's symptoms of the coronavirus actually are. And his producer, Jamie, sitting right there, he had COVID a few weeks ago, and he's like, what were your symptoms? It was like a very mild sinus infection-like symptoms. But just the very minimal side effects of the vaccine that are considered, oh, that's insignificant, like severe headaches, who cares? Like, dude, that's worse than a lot of people are getting

Starting point is 01:11:29 as symptoms of the coronavirus. Yeah, about 60% asymptomatic means you come down with it, and you don't even realize it. Asymptomatic means there are no symptoms at all that's 60 of the people who have gotten this are asymptomatic right and then and then you know i mean it just there's there's too much happening to not raise a flag and say what the fuck is going on here why is this being force-fed why why did we shut down the economy why do we do all these things um you know and of course indoctrination points that out and and for people who have a hard time still like still trust cnn like look fox news we know that shit msnbc right but cnn's they're good you know whatever whatever mainstream outlet you think like i can't trust the news but john oliver's my guy he's telling it straight right

Starting point is 01:12:21 wrong uh those are hard pills to swallow because we've watched them for years i used to watch john oliver after uh game of thrones you know i was like man i'm progressive but this dude seems pre really really uh just just hammering home like a very similar story and it's done through comedy and he's funny and it's just you know and then you watch indoctrination you're like oh shit okay yeah that's why i stopped watching them you know but i i think i think for all of these these things a lot of people will ask where do i find real news where do i find this who who is to blame within the news how deep is the deep state in with the media and all that stuff and that's what's really cool um about about Mickey's upcoming documentary,

Starting point is 01:13:05 his third film. It's going to be all on that. I don't know much about it. It's on a couple of things. It's on George Soros, and it's on all of the media that's controlled and in bed. And I think he did a great job of showing how social media, Google, the whole Silicon Valley is in bed with Big Pharma. And the way he points that out, it's pretty unmistakable.

Starting point is 01:13:28 But he's going to do a number on mainstream media. And he's also going to really point to what's happening now with our kids. And I want to connect him to Douglas Murray because Douglas Murray's book, Madness of Crowds, really illustrates not what's happening across the board among Democrats, but what's happening on the far left. And he really takes a deep dive into these things and just states it beautifully. And again, he talks about forgiveness. He talks about some of these key missing elements that we've somehow forgotten in the way we relate to one another.

Starting point is 01:14:09 But he's going to talk about kids in that. And I think it's, it's super important. I think the reason I'm bringing up kids is because of the fact that, you know, one of the threats Bill Gates makes is that if you don't, you know, if, if, if they don't listen now, they'll certainly listen in the next pandemic. And I expect... Which, by the way, I love that Bill Gates impression. You just sound like a condescending little fuck. It was beautiful. I just need the sweater. And he has the frown smile, too.

Starting point is 01:14:40 Not to keep shitting on Bill Gates, but he's got the proud smile. It's just this idea of how we protect our kids, I guess is what I'm coming to. Because you have a child in the way, or Amber has a child in the way. You guys collectively have a child in the way. We talked with Joyous about this community that he's putting together and how important that is. But really, there's never been a time in the experiment of humanity where we've experimented more on our children. And I'm not just talking vaccines. And again, to rehash one point Del Bigtree made that I'll never forget

Starting point is 01:15:16 is if you were born in 1986 or later, earlier, not sure, if you're older, 1986 or older older you had 10 to 11 vaccines yeah after 72 vaccines that's a we're talking about two completely different eras right and you look at all the kids on ritalin adderall everything else uh my kid's depressed we're gonna put him on ssri he's 16 how about we fucking do a little life review and see what's not working in his life yeah how about we change some of that around maybe it's the school that that person's going to maybe he's not being fed properly maybe all of the above should be accounted for yeah right um but we have this this super big experiment going on and we have it with our tech too.

Starting point is 01:16:06 Social media for the first time, internet for the first time, kids are being born and they got a cell phone already. It's like all of this stuff is going on. And I think one of the biggest lessons that I've received from the medicines and working with indigenous cultures is we have to reconnect to what's been lost that worked. Doesn't mean we go back to the stone age.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Doesn't mean I make fire with my hands but there's a lot of medicine that that comes with understanding a deeper connection happens without the phone a deeper connection happens around a fireplace rather than in front of a tv uh being in nature actually matters yeah and i think a lot of these things that have been robbed from our everyday life are being robbed at an even faster pace with our kids. My question to you is, what are the ways that you want to cultivate a life that embodies the best of both worlds for your children? Yeah, man. I want to lead by example. And one of the things I want to instill in my son is boldness, courage, compassion, and kindness. I think boldness, courage, and strength, I think those are really, but their actions are trying to erode away

Starting point is 01:17:45 boldness and courage where essentially their actions are treating us like, hey, as soon as nobody dies of anything, then you can come out and it'll be safe. But we know is, no, as soon as you're born, you're at risk of dying and you can live your life in a way as though the purpose of your life is to preserve your life. Enjoy that wall of protection you build around yourself, motherfucker. That wall of protection you build will soon become your prison. Or what I want to instill in my son is the purpose of your life is to fucking live your life, son. Live it. Your number will be called one day, as is mine.

Starting point is 01:18:32 That's a reality you can't deny. You can live your life in a way as though you're pretending you can deny it and you can ward it off. You can stay at home, hide behind the couch forever. But truly, that's being controlled by a fear. In this case, the fear of death. I don't think the purpose of your life, son, is to enslave yourself to that fear and honor that fear as your master. No, honor your heart as your master. And you know what? That master will most likely ask you to do some things that are scary as fuck. That at times, you'll be scared to death. Whether you're on stage going to do a talk and you're just scared to death,

Starting point is 01:19:16 even though you're not going to die. Or other times, it'll compel you to swim out and save someone where you might actually die. But the purpose of your life is to honor your heart. Man, I watched an interesting example of, I would call it fear indoctrination and a complete lack of strength and courage on a couple of kids. So I was out walking with my wife and there's a school that just opened up near us. And school was a lot out, a bunch of kids walking home from school. 95% of the kids still had their masks on while they were walking home from school. And then there was, it looked like a brother and sister, they were walking towards us, maybe seven, nine years old, in that range. And as they were about 10 meters away from us, they looked up and saw my wife and I, we didn't have masks on. No, we're not going to have masks on. We're outside. So they looked at us, then they crossed

Starting point is 01:20:25 the street and walked on the other side of the street. Now I'm guessing what wasn't going on in those kids' mind is, hey, I've looked at the numbers of COVID cases and statistically speaking, and with my science background, I think it would be a wise choice for us to cross the street based on the evidence that I've analyzed. I'm guessing that didn't happen. What I am guessing is happening is those kids were indoctrinated by a fear, which is far more contagious than any virus, which compelled them to cross the street. Now, what really amazed me is when I imagined, okay, that level of fear that those kids have, it doesn't allow them to walk past a stranger on the sidewalk. How the fuck is that going to look when those kids are 20 years old? Like what won't they be doing out of this fear? And hopefully these kids, they'll break the cocoon of fear, but I'm just

Starting point is 01:21:25 like extrapolating. What if that pattern, like, how does that look when they're 20? How does that look when they're 40? Like, are they, how would they find the courage to follow their heart? What's my life's purpose? And it's never found in the safe places, but, or am I going to just grow up, get a job that's, it feels safe and secure? I want to fucking kill myself in the job. But no, it feels safe and secure. So I won't have the courage to follow my heart. What's that look like? So with my son, I want to lead by example.

Starting point is 01:21:55 I don't want to tell my son what I'm telling you. I want to show him. And then he decides for himself what level of fear he lives under versus what level of courage he lives under in any given moment. And then, of course, there's the best of both worlds. Like, cool, the medicine and sciences. Dude, working with a guy like Dr. Stickler. Cool. You know, cool. Like when there's a resonance of truth with like medicine, science, what it can do for us to enhance our lives, awesome. Let's take that on board and consider it.

Starting point is 01:22:35 But when something is wearing the facade of medicine and science, but it feels like manipulation. All right, not for us. So I don't think there's any outside source that tells us what's the best of both worlds. What do we draw from here? What do we draw from here? I think we got to inner source our truth on that. And there's a reason why we are the guardians for our children. They're not going to be able to make those decisions and appropriately so for a while. So we need to make those decisions for us. There's a reason why those kids didn't incarnate as Tony Fauci's fucking kids. We are the guardians. And if we outsource the guardianship to our children to someone else I think we are doing our children a disservice

Starting point is 01:23:29 in my delusional opinion have you seen Apocalypto recently? I have not, it sounds familiar Mel Gibson did it it's a subtitles movie about the Mayans and the native culture in Central America you have to watch it especially's a subtitles movie uh about the mayans and the native culture in central america no i've

Starting point is 01:23:45 never seen that oh you have to watch it and i and i especially having a son uh i recommend it to everyone listening but for any dads or upcoming dads any sons even like if you want to see that the tale of fatherhood and son sonhood uh if that's a word, told in such an incredible way. It's one of my favorite movies ever, but we rewatched it. And one of the things, I don't want to, spoiler alert, this happens early. So I don't want to give the movie away, but it is worth mentioning. His dad, they're out on a hunt and they come across another tribe that looks scared as fuck. And they're not used to running in the Amazon up against or the rainforest, another tribe. And so the tribe that's coming up that's scared as fuck quickly offers a piece of an animal that they got on a hunt.

Starting point is 01:24:40 Like, here's the offering. And then the father and the son, the father steps forward and says, what do you want? And they say, we seek a new beginning. And they're just shook. Like, they just want to get the fuck out of Dodge and find a new place to live. And so they throw him some fish back. And, or the inverse of that. But either way, they give each other food.

Starting point is 01:25:00 They pass on. The father, son, and his hunting group go back to dicking around making fun of each other then they make their way back but the son can't shake it and he's you know he's uh he looks like he's in his in his 20s he's a young guy but he can't shake the fear that was on the faces of the other tribe that he felt and he wants to tell the rest of his tribe about that experience. And his father looks at him and he pulls him aside and he says, son, do not let that fear into you.

Starting point is 01:25:34 I can see it has already disturbed your peace. You will not take this and infect the rest of our tribe with it. Make yourself right before you present yourself to the rest of the tribe. Because the dad was an elder and he knew you can't let that seep into everybody. It is more contagious than any virus. And for me, outside of that movie, really like lighting the inner warrior on fire is the recognition of that. Since April, really, when I started to actually sit with this, where do I live in fear? What is an unconscious background program that's running,

Starting point is 01:26:14 that's controlling me through fear and really sifting through that? Because ultimately how we teach is through showing. It is through experience, right? My son doesn't fucking listen to me. He doesn't listen at to me he doesn't listen at all but he he learns through the shared experience and if i'm operating at a frequency of fear that's felt even if it's never verbalized he's gonna know it he's gonna say mommy and daddy are afraid of of something and i can't put my finger on it so i'm gonna mirror that right and

Starting point is 01:26:41 that's been uh a great way of breaking out of the shackles of the, you know, self-made prisons that I've lived in for 38 years is coming to terms with that and really finding trust in whatever outcome will be the way. And it'll never be too much. It'll always be able to, I'll always be able to handle it. Yeah. I love that. And I'm curious at a literal level with Bear, who I just loved him. I was watching on your Instagram stories, him putting his aunt in a rear naked chokehold. Oh, I think he got mom. Yeah. And I love seeing Bear's courage as well. I remember when y'all were at my house, I think it was last year sometime he's, you know, on the hot tub jumping off into the pool, just like awesome. Like this is just living so unrestricted. And I'm curious at a literal level, what do you guys tell bear? Like say you're going to a grocery store, everybody's got their masks on. Yeah. I'm curious how y'all explain that too. And he's five at this point.

Starting point is 01:27:53 Yeah. He's five now. Yeah. There's a couple of things that bring up one, the, the, the unrestricted child. It reminded me of, first of all, I just thought I don't want to do it the way my dad did it, you know? And it's not, it's not the shit on my dad. He he did a much better job than granddad did much better job which put me in a position to do a better job than him and that'll put bear in a position to a better job than me right and that's hopefully how we unpack that but um my dad and me and bear all have fuck you energy like just unlimited there's no caffeine meth couldn't keep up with it. And I remember having that much energy when I was a kid and often being silenced and punished if I was too loud or wasn't respectful or behaving in a way. Embarrassment was a big thing for my dad. So if I embarrassed him in front of somebody else, then I'd really feel that.

Starting point is 01:28:44 So with Bear, I've recognized that in me, the beautiful thing about life is that I don't get to rewrite my past for myself, but I rewrite my past with him. And every opportunity that I have where my knee-jerk reaction is like, dude, settle down, or I want to yell, or I want to discipline him in a way, I can then see that as the thing that's been ingrained and choose differently. And so a lot of people, it's hard to handle. We have friends stay in town and they're like, is it cool if we just take off solo? And I'm like, hey, I fucking get it. He's a lot to keep up with. Go to Zilker, go to McKinney Falls, get some rest, and then come back, we'll have dinner. But I read this book,

Starting point is 01:29:24 Lame Deer Seeker of Visions, which is a beautiful Native American story. And one of the things he talked about, because he was around right when the white man started putting Native Americans in the white education system. And he talked about the differences between cultures because he knew them both and he said in our culture we never the kids were never hit they were never told no they were allowed to run

Starting point is 01:29:52 freely now obviously they would learn from their own mistakes and there are certain things they had to be protected from but um for the most part they were allowed to just do their thing they could be wild natural people that would come to learn the ways in which to work with society naturally and gradually, not forced upon. Right. And that resonated deeply with me. And I think of those things like who is bear bear is as close to bears essence as he can be that, that, you know, there he's still been programmed through my own lack of understanding with the shadow that i can't see you know that's that's inherently not in my purview but the work tosh and i do on each other and on ourselves as individuals hopefully allows him to remain as

Starting point is 01:30:37 intact as possible and um so that's that's where he's at as a kid. Where he's at in society, at grocery stores and things like that, I've had Joyce talked about how he's got his medical exemption and doesn't wear the mask in stores, and most people will pull their mask down and say, thank you, and that kind of thing, and how people really, at least in Texas, appreciate that on some level because they recognize the freedom that he's living in. I've said that I'm happy to wear a mask because of the amount of fear people are in. I didn't mention this on the podcast with him, but I talked about it on a solo cast.

Starting point is 01:31:16 Even though I know the masks are bullshit, I don't mind putting them on because they're already in a state of fucking fear. I don't need them looking at me and getting more worked up and then going home and complaining about it the rest of the day because they're not heart-centered and they can't figure out why somebody would fucking not wear a mask that's so irresponsible. And I'm not trying to ruin people's days. I'm healthy enough. Set aside the issues with mask, rebreathing the same air, that kind of stuff. I'm healthy enough to do that. And I've talked with Bear about that. First, you know, he's never going to wear a mask and he doesn't have to at his school. And he certainly doesn't have to in stores. I remember when it was like 10 year olds and up have to wear a mask. And then it was five year olds. And I'm like, no, man,

Starting point is 01:31:58 you're not wearing a mask. Sometimes he wants to wear one for fun, but I'm like, dude, don't wear the mask. So when we're in grocery stores and things like that, the thing that I'll let them know is you don't have to worry about this. There is no, we don't ever fear nature. This fire is no different than a flu. It's no different. It's different in some ways, but it's not more deadly than any of this shit. And we don't have to worry about that. As long as we take care of ourselves, it's one of the reasons we eat good food. It's one of the reasons we eat good food. It's one of the reasons why we might have a couple pieces of organic candy on Halloween,

Starting point is 01:32:29 but we're going to give the rest away. All of the building blocks of why we choose together to take care of our bodies, why we know it's important to get enough sleep, why we know it's important to eat the right food, why we know it's important to have a little rest during the day. All of those things matter because then we're not susceptible to these evil, invisible bugs that come flying around the air. And at the same time, we're cognizant of all those around us. And so when he wants to, he's super excited to put whatever we get at the grocery store on the conveyor belt, I'll let him know, oh, hey, hey, buddy, you got to stand six feet back.

Starting point is 01:33:08 He's like, why? And I'm like, well, that person might be afraid of one of us carrying the bug. And they don't look healthy. So we want to give them enough space to where they feel safe. And he gets it. It's not because we have to worry about anything. It's because we want to be kind to others. And that resonates with him. Like, oh, okay, I'll move back and then we'll get it up

Starting point is 01:33:30 there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. I think my fear, like if I fast forward and my son's five years old, if this shit was still happening, hopefully's not but if it was i would have a tough time not barfing my frustrations onto my son like dad why why does everybody wear a mask because they're all fucking sheep and they're brainwashed but i mean i love that graceful that's hilarious you mentioned that though because you know at the school that he's at there's uh i don't know the kids talk and they mention the things that their parents say you know and so bear comes home and he's like we voted for trump we voted for trump and he's doing this little kid chant you know we voted for trump and i just burst out laughing so hard i think it was the funniest thing i'd ever

Starting point is 01:34:20 heard because you know there's that certainly the vast majority of parents at his school that was the case yeah and um and uh god he's had he's had a few other ones like that but thankfully there's there hasn't been what i'm sure the masses of children are are learning and being exposed to through the narrative of public education through the narrative of all the other campuses where it's zoom learning and mickey talked about that too where there's now an eavesdropping uh no eavesdropping clause that the parents have to sign because they don't want parents and this isn't across the board but in a lot of areas where they are trying to get the parents to not listen in on the zoom education their children are getting why is that because they're teaching them some shit they don't want the parents to not listen in on the Zoom education their children are getting. Why is that?

Starting point is 01:35:05 Because they're teaching them some shit they don't want the parents to know about. And he'll dive into this in the next one. Teaser trailer. He'll dive into this in the next one. And it is proven. He actually has physical copies from different parents back in California and different places where they've had to sign this paperwork in order for their kids to get their online public education which is now shittier than you thought public education

Starting point is 01:35:30 was shitty before yeah just imagine where it's at now so um but yeah i yeah and bears talked about that too you know the um he he said this which was fucking hilarious he said um santa claus isn't gonna bring the government any presents this year and i said why is that buddy just laughing and he goes because they're on the naughty list wow and i was like yeah bud i don't think yeah yep i think that's probably true i think that's probably true i I think that's probably true. I love that. That is so cool. Man, I think the challenges with our time and excitement about our time, and I think part of what keeps me going, like when we start talking about our sons, what keeps me motivated and like

Starting point is 01:36:28 a hopeful outlook is leaving a better world for our sons and living in that better world with our sons for as long as we have. I think one of the things that is a very exhaustible, non-renewable energy resource is doing shit for yourself. Like, cool, we got to do shit for ourself, but there's only so much energy we have for doing shit for ourselves. But when it's, we're doing shit for other people, which is also for us, yet it's so inclusive of contributing to our sons or daughters our future generations strangers that we don't even know dude that's when i think we really tap into a very renewable kind of like solar power limitless resource of energy and man man, that's something I keep in mind. Like when I'm doing my videos, I've been doing tons of travel with standup comedy where I'm delivering messages through the language of comedy. I always keep in mind how, dude, this is serving humanity.

Starting point is 01:37:42 And when I realized that, there's that fulfillment of like, dude, it's like I'm working with unending energy. And that's one of the things I think anybody can draw from is how are your thoughts, words, and actions right now taking care of yourself? Yes, but how are they contributing to the greater good around you? And sometimes some of us would wake up to that question and say like, oh, they're not. Awesome. Fucking redirect them because it feels damn good. It feels just like solar power in my delusional opinion.

Starting point is 01:38:20 No, I love that. Yeah, there is the ceremony of parenthood is one of the most potent if not the most potent and when it's treated that way where we we view our children as these little gurus you know and and they are our teachers you know we're here to protect them and show them away and give them experiences but ultimately they teach us if if we're if we're centered and can recognize that. We can learn a lot from them. And it is renewable. It's incredibly taxing on every fucking level with loss of sleep and all that good stuff you get to look forward to.

Starting point is 01:38:54 But at the same time, it matters so much. It matters so much. And it's worth it. It's so worth it that that then becomes a fuel source that keeps it going. One of my favorites favorites and i can't state this off the top of my head but it's in uh the prophet by khalil gabran when he talks about you read that book no he gives a poem on on kids and he's like you we don't get to see the future but the children are our arrows and we are the bow that casts them with the arc into the future

Starting point is 01:39:25 where we aim and how we pull that bowstring back sends the trajectory of the future into place and if you think about that like yeah like all how do we change this going forward well children is a fucking big piece of that yeah it's a bit it might be the biggest piece of that and um you know even if you're never going to be a parent or you're too old to have kids and you never were, thinking about the kids is an important piece. And thinking about the world that we leave behind for them is incredibly important. And I feel that as I lean into the purge of everything that's happening right now, I have high hope for that. I have an excitement about that.

Starting point is 01:40:10 Because previous to all this stuff, there was a lot of, yeah, I've kind of heard some rumbling about the Federal Reserve. I've kind of heard some things about this and that and the Rockefellers and the New Green Deal and all of this stuff. But it's like now we're starting to become more aware. Now we're starting to see through the illusion. Now we're starting to get, gain more access. And even though, uh, in the past you might've had to search hard and high and low to get it. A billion people watch plandemic over a fucking billion, right? Like, like people are starting to open up to this and the access is there. And I think that that's another thing that is a beautiful gift through all of this is that if we ask the questions, we'll find it. We'll find the answer. And not just externally, but as we sharpen our blade and we, you know, get that tuning fork into resonance, we can tune into those answers from within at a much greater degree of ease.

Starting point is 01:41:04 And I'm fucking pumped and I'm excited to go through this life's journey with you, brother. Me too. I'm grateful to be in the ceremony with you, man, purging. And I know there's bliss happening at the same time, but yeah, I think the purpose of a ceremony isn't to be comfortable. I think it's to shatter the cocoon of comfort that has served us until it restricts us. That's why you got to shed the cocoon. That's why we got to have a ceremony to remind us of what we need to shed. And something about really any ceremony I've ever been a part of is there's always others in the ceremony with you in the temple. And I'm very grateful to be in the temple with you, brother, because it inspires me.

Starting point is 01:41:59 When I've been in a plant medicine ceremony, when I see others going through the purge, it inspires me and gives me more permission to give myself more permission to go deeper. Like, oh, no, no, no. This is supposed to be happening now. Look at him just heave his guts out. Fuck yeah. Let me go. Let me go there too.

Starting point is 01:42:22 Get it. Yeah. So thank you for being an inspiration and a friend brother yeah thank you brother uh tell us your podcast title where can people find you any upcoming shows you got coming out this will release this week so yeah you know i am on all the social medias i am at awaken with jp youtube would be the prime spot to find me but i'm on everything and my podcast is awaken with jp se. So yeah, feel free to connect with me there or avoid me there, depending on how offensive or charming you find me. Beautiful brother. Thank you. you

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