Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #186 Drew Canole
Episode Date: January 28, 2021A dear friend and warrior, Drew Canole, joins me on the podcast this week. His true authenticity is apparent as he talks emerging from his darkest nights of the soul to the true beauty that he was abl...e to manifest in the form of Organifi as well as the culture that he embodies. Give it a listen and please, if you’re called to, hit subscribe/follow as well as leave a review with how the show has impacted you. Thanks as always fam. Connect with Drew: Website: www.organifishop.com Instagram: @drewcanole - @organifi Twitter: @drewcanole - @organifi Facebook: Drew Canole - Organifi YouTube: Organifi Show Notes: "The Ra Contact: Teaching the Law of One" "The Kybalion" Itzhak Bentov's - From Atom To Cosmos - Evolution of Consciousness As A New Model of the Universe Greenhouse in the Snow "One Second After" Sponsors: Organifi Go to organifi.com/kkp for some Green Juice, it’s my favorite way to easily get the most potent blend of high vibration fruits, veggies and other goodies into your diet! Click that link and use code “KKP” at checkout for 20% off your order! PowerDot is an incredible company used by top athletes across all major sports, but it’s not just for elite athletes. Their app has great interface and even gives tips to help you take your game to the next level. Enter code KKP at checkout to receive $25 and an additional 20% off their Pro-Bundle - powerdot.com/kkp Lucy Get 20% off Lucy Nicotine Gum at Lucy.co using the Promo Code KKP at Checkout Dryfarm Wines Go to www.dryfarmwines.com/Kyle for your wine subscription PLUS an extra bottle for a penny ($.01) Connect with Kyle: Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the show.
We've got one of my favorite guests of the year.
I know it's January, so that isn't, it's not saying a whole lot,
but I would say if you include January as well as all of the past year,
Drew Canole is the CEO and, or former, not the CEO.
I guess that's somebody else now.
Co-founder of Organifi, which is a phenomenal company.
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Absolutely incredible.
But his story is nothing short of remarkable.
I first heard him a while back, I think with the Mind Pump crew.
And then more recently last year, maybe even the year before that,
it was one of Paul Cech's earlier episodes
and just a fantastic story.
I mean, we all go through shit,
but I mean, this guy's been through it all.
And to see what that has flowered into,
and I'm not just talking about success and business
and things like that.
I'm talking about the wealth of spiritual knowledge,
the wealth of give,
the wealth of embodiment in the physical.
Many of you have heard me talk about it before,
but this is almost a spiritual bypass
when we get so caught up in the astral
and solving the great mystery
that we negate the physical body.
It's almost like we look past the importance
of what this body is as a tuning fork in 3D reality
and as an access point to higher states of knowing.
But certainly not the case with Drew.
Drew's, he's got quite a bit of gadgets and gizmos.
And of course he's got quite a bit of low hanging fruit
that I love from cold
tubs and saunas and all that good stuff.
Really just,
just a fantastic,
fantastic guest and a friend and a dear brother who I look forward to spending
much more time with out in Sedona and here in Texas.
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Drew Canole, welcome to the podcast, brother.
Thanks for having me, my man.
It's been a long time coming, for sure.
Absolutely.
So much to discuss.
I mean, let's just, I don't like following in all of Cech's breadcrumbs, but I first heard you on Paul Chex's podcast, as many of my guests.
And one of the things that stuck out to me was that you really didn't beat around the bush.
Paul's not that type of dude, but you guys dove into some dark places pretty early on
in discussion of your book, UBU, and kind of what life was like growing up.
That's really how I start my podcast. I try to figure people out what led them to the path
that they're on right now.
So if you don't mind, I mean, let's just jump right in and talk about life growing up,
some of the struggles that have allowed you to become the person that you are right now.
Yeah. So I'm like you. Everything I believe, it's life happens for me and not to me. And I've had my back up against the wall at a very young age. I'm so grateful for everything
that I had to experience from zero to five because it was very painful and very dark.
And I'm glad that we're jumping right into it on your podcast because I think everybody can
relate to this. We all have trauma. It hides itself in ourselves. It stays there. Most people
operate as wounded boys and wounded girls throughout their whole entire life experience
without really discovering who they are.
And for me, what was fascinating is from zero to five, I was tortured as a child, like physically.
They talked about it in the Cadillac newspaper as like one of the most horrific things that
have ever happened to kids in that town at the time.
And this was like in the 1980s, right?
So if I couldn't tie my shoes fast
enough, my dad would put cigarettes out of my forehead. He'd hold my head underneath the water
in the bathtub. And it was very, very dark. So I learned at a very young age that this reality
wasn't safe. I mean, that was my God coming into this life experience. And they were doing that to
me. The earth experience was very fragile back then. So it created lack
of trust. It created lack of intimacy. It created lack of throughout my life relationships because I
always felt like somebody was going to abandon me. I was left outside for two weeks on the porch and
they would slide the food out through the doggy door to actually feed me as a kid. And the human
body, the unconscious,
actually stores all of that, as you know,
because you're a student of all this stuff too.
So I had a lot to work through.
And it's a beautiful thing because every day,
another lesson,
and it was just absolutely amazing
that I got to go through that.
And I've worked my whole entire life.
I've done EMDR, I've worked my whole entire life. I've
done EMDR, I've done EFT, I've done TRE, which is the trauma release exercises, Peter Levine's work.
You had a guest talk about that a little bit too. Um, one of my favorite shows that you ever did,
actually, gosh, what was his name? Was it Matt that you had on your show?
Uh, Matt Belair. We've had a few Matts. Matt Belair was on recently. I think
Tom Cole talked about trauma release exercise. I've actually done it with them. They're out here,
paleo effectors. Super powerful. Yeah, man. Yeah. So you're touching on some really, really,
really important stuff here. And just, there's so much ground guard he covered already, but yeah,
I mean, the the piece on you know
people that have become adults that are still wounded children you know it was really really
laid out for me you know i first heard rogan talking about that you know when he had kids
and he was super stoned he looked at you know old people or adults so you know as we would say and
just saw like little kids in adult meat suits you know we see that everywhere. We see it in politics.
We see it all over the place.
But archetypically from King Warrior Magician Lover,
that's where I really got to dive into that
and see like, oh, this is what happens
if you don't do the work Drew Canole did to heal that,
then you become the perpetrator.
You become the person that inflicts on others
and that's acted out in so many different ways.
And they go through, you know, every shadow has a passive and an active side. You become the person that inflicts on others and that's acted out in so many different ways.
And they go through, you know, every shadow has a passive and an active side.
And within those shadows, how they express.
And it's the archetypes that are playing through the human psyche that are going to go on, whether we realize it or not.
But oftentimes they're going to go on in the shadow aspect until we draw attention to it and understand what it is that we're working with to bring it over to the light side.
That's pretty powerful stuff.
You and you have a sister, correct?
Yeah, April, my sister.
Yeah, you guys ended up making it to foster care at a certain age, is that right?
Yeah, we were in foster care for a year.
So from the age of like five to six, I was in foster care. And when you're sitting at the table with a bunch of what we call normal kids that were raised not to cuss, because my parents thought that dropping the F-bomb sitting
at the table and that kind of stuff was cool back then. So they taught me a different language.
And I was using this different language at these tables where all these other foster children were,
because back then, and I think still today, the government actually pays you for taking in these kids.
And then while they find homes for them, right.
I was like an adopted kid they were finding a home for,
but it was still more abuse, you know, because I'd be like, Hey,
can you please pass the fucking potatoes?
And then all of a sudden the old man, you know,
that was in charge of the family grabbed me by the back of the neck,
take me in the bathroom,
shove soap in my mouth and whip me with his belt. And then I was back out there again. So I like to think I was trained like a Navy SEAL at a very young age. So.
Yeah, very young age. My sister actually does that respite care. They call it now
out in California. And, you know, we live in Texas now, thankfully, uh, but
which I'm sure we'll dive into, but, um, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a really interesting, you know,
like not only who shows up in those situations from the child standpoint, but where they've been
in other respite cares, you know, like the, it's almost like there's like a shock when they get to
my sister's house. Cause they, they're, they're half expecting they're half expecting what they've experienced in the past
leading up to that point.
And then it's this whole different world of,
wait, you're going to love me no matter what.
You're going to still show up for me
and work with me without hurting me.
I mean, it's a night and day difference.
But there's medicine in every experience, right?
And you're living proof of that.
Absolutely living proof of that.
You touched on some of these
really transformative experiences that maybe some people haven't heard of before and we've
talked a little bit on um you know actually we haven't i don't think we've even have done a deep
dive on any single one of these but talk about emdr talk about eft talk about these different
practices that can help bring us back into resonance and wholeness that aren't necessarily
super well knownknown out there.
I mean, there's more now these days,
people doing these techniques.
But most people that have made it to our age
are just used to the typical talk therapy style.
And that hasn't necessarily boded well for a ton of people.
I can raise my hand and say like,
that shit wasn't the juice,
that wasn't the sauce that I was looking for as a kid. But talk about your experiences working with some of these new
modalities and, and what's really helped you out. Yeah. So I was super young when I started EMDR.
As soon as my adopted parents, Jeff and Connie in, you know, Lake city, Michigan, there's like
700 people in this hometown, very small town. So EMDR back then was like unheard of. There was only one practitioner.
But it was, from what I remember at the time, and I haven't done it in a while, but it's you track their fingers and they ask you.
And they're tracking you and your ponti medullar reticular function is actually right next to your midbrain where you store all the pain in your body, right?
So they're asking you to go back and rewind. And it's almost like neurolinguistic
programming or NLP in a way where you're doing a swish pattern and you're moving more empowering
messages into your unconscious quicker because it has something to do with the eyes, EMDR does,
the vestibular and the vestibular system, because there's one muscle to every nerve in your eye.
It's the most dense place on your body. So if we can shuttle through the occipital cortex to the prefrontal and the left and right
hemisphere and back to the limbic, then we ultimately could start re-changing the brain
and the way that it fires and the way that it accesses visual stimuli, which actually causes
the thoughts, which lead to the emotion and then the experience through the reticular activation
system. So super powerful stuff.
And EMDR, I did like five sessions when I was a little kid.
I was six, changed my life.
My mom had me pray every night before I went to bed.
That was huge because I didn't know who God was,
but I knew if God loved me and God was my father,
then the father that did this to me biologically
wasn't the real man.
And it really uplifted me because I prayed for forgiveness when I was like six years old
to forgive him for everything that he did.
It was a bold move to really let that go.
And I saw my life shift dramatically after doing the forgiveness thing at such a young age.
It was super powerful and empowering.
And my sister kind of went the other way.
I don't think she really forgave the situation until she was probably in her late 20s.
And you see two different life experiences because of that.
Absolutely. Paul Selig, another great Paul, is a channel and one of my favorite teachers. And
he talks a lot about that. Anything you damn, damns you right back. And anything you hold in the cave,
you must remain in the cave that you're holding it, right?
So that could be any judgment you have
or lack of forgiveness that you have
for someone or some event,
you're bound to them in the cave of darkness
that you hold them in.
And so much of forgiveness
is about taking that weight off your chest
and not carrying the burden of resentment,
pain and shaming someone else or something else, but alleviating yourself from that. about taking that weight off your chest and not carrying the burden of resentment, pain,
and shaming someone else or something else,
but alleviating yourself from that.
It's not the necessary, the, hey, I forgive you.
I've been waiting to tell you this my whole life.
It's like, I forgive you for me to forgive you.
Yes, and that's so powerful.
If you look at the law of one or oneness and Ra's teachings, I had a dream at a young age,
which was super helpful for one of the healing modalities.
But when I was five,
I had my first lucid experience in dream time.
Every night this monster would come to me
and he would attack me and I'd wet the bed.
So for like six months,
I was waking up pissing the bed
because I was afraid of this monster.
And then I woke up and I realized
that the monster was actually my dad.
And in the dream, I woke up and the monster shrunk and I held him and I said, oh, you're just a cute little monster that's just as scared as I am. Right? So then my perception of him changed in the awakened dream, which is the 3D reality. And I started to see that man differently, which actually, when you change your belief around something, it changes your perception, which changes your reception, right? So then what I was receiving, the input that I was receiving from my father
at a young age started to shift. And then for every night, I would try to go in and have another
lucid experience. So I began lucid dreaming, which was super powerful for redesigning the way my
brain was firing and everything else at a young age, which is dreams are one of the most under
rated things we have now. People wake up and they're like, oh, that was weird. This is an unconscious unicorn,
a cat riding with a trident. It doesn't matter. But there's all these interpretations that we
can derive from it that can radically transform our lives. So that was a super powering healing
modality as well at a young age. Yeah. I's, I mean, I've, I've, I think I can count on one
hand how many times I've dreamt lucidly, um, up until recently. And I'm going to do a solo cast
on this. I don't want to take up our whole discussion on it, but I had my, my dark night
of the soul that lasted two and a half weeks, all from December 7th, leading up to Christmas Eve.
And, uh, it was with the Sonoran Desert Toad, but it was the darkest experience of my life, which is odd because that coming from 5MEO DMT
is not what the expectation was.
And every night I went into night school.
So everyone had reactivations
and it took me a long time to be able to ground that.
Actually, Paul Cech gave me a method to ground it,
close the loop and be able to work with it in dreams.
And in doing so, I've had very visceral, vivid, psychedelic dreams, you know, and that have really,
really helped me to unpack further. And thankfully I've got, you know, my homie, Eric Godsey,
who's been on the podcast. I think I sent you one. We did. Yeah. Eric Godsey. That's who was
talking about Amons and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a young union analyst and is
flawless with the dream analysis and has been so spot on at helping me, you know, repicture and reimagine what those meanings are coming into me. But that's, the subconscious is constantly speaking to us. It's constantly giving us downloads and teaching us ways to navigate more effectively through life. And I think that is definitely an underutilized tool yeah it's a portal right because the unconscious connects to the super conscious or christ
consciousness or the buddhic field or the merkaba or whatever you want to call it so the more we
allow you know and i tell my unconscious before i go to bed at night hey here's what i want to
experience i want to expel it i want to experience a psilocybin portal you know and i want to see
vivid color that i haven't seen in you know a thousand years or i want to experience a psilocybin portal, you know, and I want to see vivid color that I haven't seen in, you know,
a thousand years, or I want to experience a past life incarnation.
And I want it to be here in this galaxy or this system. Right.
And then all of a sudden you're in the dream and you wake up and it's like,
okay, here we go again. It's like avatar. Like, uh,
it's like watching an IMEX theater that the graphics don't give it justice
because it's a portal and we have access to it and it's like watching an imex theater that the graphics don't give it justice because it's
a portal and we have access to it and it's within us and i love how you had that experience in the
desert with the sonora toad man that's incredible yeah it was it was a deep deep deep one i'm gonna
i'm gonna have to give it uh some serious serious note-taking and everything for that solo cast
dispelling with chico have you heard heard this book by Paul Levy? No.
It's a brilliant book on the darkness and the alchemy of the darkness.
So I'm going to dive deeper into there,
but I don't want to take up too much of our time with it.
Talk about, were you gifted this?
How did you fall into these abilities early on?
And I mean, I know this does happen.
Obviously on the podcast, you talked about Paul Cech.
Paul credits his trauma for allowing him to start to be able to have the gifts that he's had at a very young age. And I'm sure
that's a piece of it, but was there anything that you had read or started to work with or a mentor
that allowed you to navigate this? Because this is definitely a tool I'd love to have.
And I've certainly, having learned from Paul, one of the ways we grounded my experience was by using the conscious
mind to guide the unconscious, like to direct it and through the dreams and through the spoken
word of calling that into 3D reality with a small ceremony of sage and a hot bath with frankincense,
I was able to do that. So is it as simple as, I know it's as simple as that for you now,
but how did you kind of bridge that and start to work in those spaces a bit deeper? So when we wake up in the
dream, we wake up in reality. So the awakened dream becomes the sacred dream. And at a young
age, I knew that what I was looking at wasn't real. I'm like, this is an illusion. I can change
this with my mind. Like I can change the dream, you know, like the night school dream.
So I would wake up and I would literally will things into my experience.
And I was at a very young age.
I had the gift of dreaming and dream interpretation and seeing my dream and retrospection.
And I would always look at, because I was really trying to escape reality from the trauma.
Like Paul said, I was really trying to get out of my body because the pain was so bad.
I mean,
I was thrown on sidewalks and all this horrific shit,
dude.
I had a knife cut.
It was like the whole length of my chest.
Once just shredded up my chest.
I had the scar for like 15 years of my life,
but it's crazy.
So what I try to do is escape the reality that I was in. And the reality that I was creating was more in up life. But it's crazy. So what I try to do is escape the reality that I was in. And the
reality that I was creating was more in up here. So I became a master at controlling my thoughts
at a young age. It's like, oh, now I'm the observer. I'm no longer the Drew Meatsuit.
I'm no longer the personality or the identity because the identity is a black hole.
The more we go to the gym, the more we work out, the more lotion we put on our face, the more anti, the more we try to keep this body intact, the more we miss
the subtle energy field. And the subtle energy field are the sixth sense, right? It connects us
to, I mean, hundreds of other supernatural senses that humans don't really pay that much attention
to in this life experience because of the density that's on planet earth right now.
People are waking up. There's a lot of shifts happening faster now than ever before,
which is cool. But yeah, I think the trauma allowed me to escape the reality that I was in.
I use trauma as fuel. And then of course, throughout my whole life, I attracted mentors,
coaches, teachers, guides, and even in dream time, I've worked with ascended beings and other
sentient beings where I wake up and I'm like, my eyes are just full of water. I feel like I was
levitating in this dream and there was sounds that I've never heard. And I've been in portals with
dolphins that are all surrounding me in a vertical ascent going upward with trumpets and all this
music that I've never heard in my life. And I haven't touched any plant medicine, dude.
There's no real reason though,
because you have access, you know?
Like the bridge is there.
Yeah.
It's something I felt more called to.
I used to laugh at Ram Dass when you get,
or Alan Watts, you know,
when you get the call from God, hang up the phone.
And it was like, yeah,
that's when you're doing a bit of LSD
and a light dose of mushrooms.
Sure, not to the depths of ayahuasca or some of the deeper journeys that I've done.
That's fucking work.
And it's really, really challenging.
But at the same time, after this last one, I'm like, look, I get it.
I'm good for a while.
I might be good forever.
I may never touch this stuff again because it was that hard to get through.
And I know there's a lot to unpack from that.
But once you have the bridge
built, your tool is there. You've accessed that. And when you look at any of the great sages and
mystics throughout history, they have accessed that portal and they can do so through meditation,
through the dream state. It fascinates me. I for certain want to dive into that deeper.
You talked a bit about, you know,
some of the teachings of Don Juan
and the Toltec teachings.
Dive into this, you know,
because I'd love to bridge this for people.
There's a lot of people I know,
whether they're in fit for service
or, you know, friends of mine,
it's being reflected back to me
that there is access points outside of plant medicine.
And I want to be able to start to
facilitate that for myself. Yeah, you and I are on the same page, man. I think we were communicating
telepathically right before this because I'm like, all right, we're going to do the Don Juan
thing right next. So thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, so 13 years ago, I got a Facebook
message from a dear brother, Jim Fortin, who I call him not blood brother,
but blood on the planet, right? Like you'd be my brother because we have similarities and we're
helping the world in a similar fashion. And Jim is that way too, just a big heart. And he reaches
out to me and he said, you're a dreamer. And he said, we've been traveling together at night.
I'm like, I am a dreamer. And I've, you know'm lucid like probably 60, 70% of the time or more, right?
So I'm like seeing energy and patterns and stuff like this at the time.
And I said, yeah, I am.
And he's like, I have somebody I want you to meet.
That I want you to meet Don Javier, who is the apprentice of Don Juan,
the only apprentice that he had.
And I'm like, well, this is great.
Cause I read Journey to Ixlam and some of the other books in the seventies,
you know, when Carlos Consoneda was around,
like these older books that are awesome, filled with so much wisdom,
you know, that we don't see in a lot of books today.
It's like rehashed this and that.
So super powerful.
And I said, yeah, I'd love to meet him.
So 13 years ago, I got on the phone with this guy
and he just blew my world right open. He's like telling me about my life, how old my soul is,
like all these supernatural things. He's like, and he's like diving deep quickly,
like as a shaman, because he's a shaman, he's a Nawal, he's a Babalo, he's a sorcerer,
he's a talisman, he's Toltec. He's a guardian, really. And he's a galactic being is the best way for me to explain it. I mean, what I've seen him do in the physical and even the non-physical in dream time is it opens up your whole world of possibility. So I've been able to witness that, which is helpful. And working with him, we do ceremonies before I go to bed with candles and directions
and the elements and calling it in and all this stuff. So likened to what you did with the
frankincense and the bath and everything like that, you're just setting the stage for your
light body or your etheric body, your energetic, your magnetic, to actually align and then transport
you, the real you, which is outside of your physical body,
into some of these other dimensions and realms. So I've had a whole host of different experiences
of working with this guy. Yeah, I've done body work with him where he takes these eggs that I
brought to him, soft eggs. He uses my subtle energy field and he cleans up my energy and then he tells me to put these
eggs in my head uh underneath my head as i'm sleeping and then three days later get rid of
the eggs i've done this on multiple occasions and the eggs come out cooked in the thing like
using the energy to cook the eggs and this is, I'm not doing, like there's no plant medicine
or anything. This is like reality, dude. So super powerful being. And I believe when we're underneath
or not underneath, I wouldn't say because we're all connected to source the same way, right?
But when we're witnessing it, when we're witnessing another super being doing what
they're doing on this planet, then we start to get access to things that maybe we had access to before.
Right.
So that's been one of the biggest things in my journey is working with him
over the past 13 years and seeing what's possible before it's possible.
No, that's incredible. And he's alive now, correct?
Yeah. He actually, he lives in Sedona.
Yeah. I'll be there this year I'll be
we'll be hanging with with permission and the stars lining up for sure yeah he's so humble
so modest great human that's that's that's special brother yeah um so did this all how did this all
coincide with your professional career?
Because you talked about, with Paul at least,
I'm bridging that to my podcast,
like we've already discussed it.
But talk about how your professional career moved on.
I think your adoptive parents were blue collar workers
and fill in that gap, connect those dots for us.
Right on.
Mom, janitor, I used to clean houses
with her and go in as a kid. And we picked strawberries in Michigan in the summer for
25 cents a quart. And my dad was a truck driver. So I used to go to New York and stuff with him
in the truck. So they didn't really know a lot about money or business or building a company
or anything like that. But they were billionaires when it came to emotional heart energy,
right?
They're just good salt of the earth people,
incredible human beings.
So there was,
um,
a lot of Sam Scar though around money around,
um,
not trusting the legal system,
not trusting,
like there's a lot of victim mentality in some of these Midwest states.
Right.
And I think it's because the medium presses it upon them.
You know, you got the CNN, the constant negative news
where it's just brainwashing people, right?
So they felt trapped to that and I witnessed it.
So I made a decision at a young age,
hey, you're not watching any of this BS
because it's a low frequency, low vibe.
I felt it in my solar plexus, you know,
just watching my dad spend four hours after work
or after driving the truck for all day in front of it,
like with all this fear mongering,
I'm like, I can't do this.
So ditch that.
And then I started to work more into the unconscious world
to start to heal some of the samskara
based around money, based around substance, right?
I read a great book at a young age called the Kaibalyan,
which is the Hermetic teachings
on the ancient Egyptian priests of Hermes and Toth
and all these, you know, beings back then
and the seven universal laws.
Like I started to look at that and I'm like,
how can I apply these laws to my own life?
And the law of causation, the law of gender, which you talk about, you know, quite a bit with the archetypes.
And, you know, it's almost like how to be a magician.
Like that's a good guidebook for the laws that we have to use to leverage the universe to help us in creation.
So that was powerful.
And yeah, so that's a little bit of the Michigan story. I went to school,
went to college for like four years and I'm like, this is a waste of money. And became an
entrepreneur, ran three companies right out of college. I only worked for another business for
60 days in my life doing mortgages in Michigan, like right after the big boom in 2004, 2005.
I'm like, I can't do this anymore. And then a lot of it was ego structure.
I had a huge ego.
I'm like, I'm going to go make a bunch of money.
I don't need to be paying somebody else to run my business.
And the whole ego stuff that you and I as men, we go through.
And it was very humbling because I fell right on my face, dude.
I had my employees quit.
It was probably one of the most painful moments in my life because I built this company that I thought was successful and nobody wanted to work for me.
Damn. That's a rude awakening.
Yeah, this guy's an asshole. He works too much. And then I really started to connect with God's source more. And I started to, how do I want to build a company? And how do I want to create something that brings joy to people's life
every time they come in?
And then we launched FitLife TV 11 years ago,
built a community of around 7 million people.
And it was awesome.
And then Organifi five years ago,
our superfood company,
which has been one of the best places
to work in America three years in a row,
Inc. 500 four years in a row.
And it's based on the notion that the food
and the fuel that we have can be so much better
than what people are putting in their bodies.
You know, you got the glyphosate and all these chemicals
that people are indoctrinated into believing
aren't that bad for them, but science shows otherwise.
And we've created a superior
product in the marketplace, I believe. And we're impacting millions of people's lives.
We're making nutrition convenient and easy. And it's been a lot of fun, man.
Yeah. And that falls right back into the scope of what Paul teaches, right?
Yeah.
And I have a bad habit of regurgitating his wisdom on this podcast simply for the fact that like,
look no further. Our buddy Troy Casey, he talked about that in his book. He's like,
I couldn't do a diet book or a health book. I had to write my book. And the reason for that is
there's a Bible that's already written how to eat, move and be healthy. When you talk about
the last four doctors you'll ever need, Dr. Diet being one of them, that's a pillar of health.
What you put in and consume on
a daily basis is one of the four pillars of health. And that health holistically influences
every fucking facet of you, from the physical to the mental, the emotional, the spiritual,
all of that's influenced by your health. And without that, I mean, I think that's,
people talk about the great awakening. I think that's one of the huge understandings that we are remembering right now is that we have given away our power to people in white lab coats, whether that's a scientist or a doctor.
Yes. Hopefully we have choice. We have the ability to order Organifi. We have the ability to go to a farmer's market.
We have the ability to take in food that's actually going to make us more robust and
alive and allow us to thrive.
And yeah, there's no doubt.
I had a question in my head about how Organifi just seemingly popped up into this amazing
company, but you already touched on that, having fallen on your face in the mortgage
industry.
And then having the audience
too from FitLife TV is massive. I think you mentioned how you guys had lost money every
year for the first five years in that business. And then there you go. See a need, fill a need.
We had 16.5 million visitors a month organically. So I built a company on organic traffic and then Facebook changed their algorithm. And like that, we lost all of our traffic. So $50,000, I lost
the first month and 60, then 65, then 70. And I lost so much money in about nine months. I remember
it was probably 500, 600 grand. And it was all my personal savings from working for the past five
years. And I'm just like, you know what, whatever. It's only money. Money is my own natural energy yield. And there's always more energy, not from
me, but coming through me, right? Like breathing in me. So I'm like, all right, well, let's just
kick a field goal here. Let's order 3,000 units of this. We've taste tested 52 different times,
the flavor of this green juice that we were working on. And we're like, we've taste tested 52 different times, the flavor of this green juice that we were
working on. And we're like, we have the biggest juicing audience in the world. I'm sure they're
going to love it. You know, we put so much love, so much time, so much attention into just giving
stuff away for free, free content every single day. Right. So we launched Organifi and it sold
out in the first weekend. And then we sold out five more times after that. And we've just continued
to, uh, we can't make this stuff fast enough. You know, I out five more times after that. And we've just continued to, we can't
make this stuff fast enough. I think that was the biggest struggle. And it's been such a rewarding
experience, not only for the people that are drinking it, the liquid light, they're infusing
their bodies, their mitochondria, their ATP, their energy, their microbiota, all the stuff that Paul
and you talk about, but also it's a mindset thing too,
right? Because a lot of the psychological inflammation that we're taking on leads to
those poor decision nutrition choices and it just robs their voltage body of electricity.
So when you drink these superfoods, it greatly, from what I've seen, it revitalizes people.
People come to life and you've witnessed that.
You've seen transformations in your own life.
And I think that's one of the most rewarding things
to witness is a human soul on fire.
After being like walking dead for years,
all of a sudden they realize that there's this
more powerful food and more powerful thoughts
that they can put in their body
that changes who they be, you know?
Yeah, all systems affected. Dolores Cannon calls them sleepwalkers. powerful thoughts that they can put in their body that changes who they be. You know? Yeah.
All systems affected.
Dolores Cannon calls them sleepwalkers.
I was like,
that's brilliant.
I love that.
It's so much better than sheep.
Like sheep is such an asshole word.
And then you have all sides of the fucking coin calling people sheep.
It's like,
Oh,
if we are to forgive and to love everyone,
no one's a sheep.
But yes,
on a scale,
there are some people that have blinders on that are still watching the news each night that are still watching their favorite sitcom that don't want
anything to change. And they,
they even though they feel it in every cell of their body,
don't even want to acknowledge changes happening all around us. Yeah.
We're in, we're in a big shift right now. And it may, you know,
touch on that because it's, you you know if we're in the same reality
at least for this moment like it's hard to not look out and see like there's a lot of decisions
being made in the world externally that uh are making my hair stand up and it's hard it's hard
to see that and be and try to understand that all right if the as above so below like how can i do
my part to shift that within and then at the same time not look away from this because it's important that they're we're doing stuff backwards right now
a lot of people think that you know it's it's this new thing that we're up against and i think it's
since the beginning of time we've dealt with the same thing i think my heart of hearts is telling me we're in this spiritual war, right?
It's this swipe left, swipe right, TikTok society to drag us away from our true potential,
which actually happens in solitude, right? King Solomon makes Bezos look like he's sitting at
the kiddie table back then, right? He was one of the wisest men to ever live. And his connection
to source, his connection to divinity was pure and it was true. And I think now there's just so many people that are willing to take a dollar
for this material, this Maya, this illusion, they're building plastic Porsches and then they
get in the car and then it falls apart and they're wondering why. So I think that until individually,
because this is an individual transformation, like you said, as above, so below. Every individual soul starts to realize that they're playing such a huge part
in the collective because there's so much information. We can call them the lords of
karma or whatever that are coming for now, right? Like all this stuff's coming up. The
human resonance is shifting. You can see more light entering the atmosphere.
Some people would say from our galactic brothers and sisters, our ancestors, or the future version of us, we're like, all right, Drew. All right, Kyle. It's time to wake your ass up. Boom,
photon beams coming in from freaking Sirius or wherever. Earth's going to get a little crazy
for a little bit, but know that we're watching and know that we're with you. And I think the way that
we handle that is to really work on our own inner transformation, which you're doing, you know,
the toad ceremonies and all the deep shadow work that you've done, brother. Like that's so powerful,
man. You're such a warrior. Like I see your shield right now, you know, and it's good, but not
everybody is willing to do that. So we're suppressing.
So earth is under this great suppression
and it's the suppression of the individual ego.
It's the wounded boys and it's the wounded girls
coming out to play in the political parties
and all the, what we're witnessing, right?
And until we go within and we realize that,
hey, we are one, we're brothers, we're sisters.
There's no race, decree, religion are one, we're brothers, we're sisters, there's no race,
decree, religion that can separate us. We are united and we believe it. It's not just rhetoric,
right? And we do the work, not just talk about it. I think that's when the great change or shift
is going to happen, but there's still way too many people that are holding on to the deepest,
darkest secrets. And because of that,
we're seeing that type of energy really consume a lot of what we're witnessing right now.
So just be free from it. If you're listening to this, free yourself today, share with somebody,
get it out in the open, like Brene Brown talks about, be vulnerable. Let it out of your heart,
let it out of your chest and watch what transmutes. Watch the energy uplift from you.
So that's- I love that.
I think that's happening.
Paul Levy talks about that vulnerability
is the ability to receive the wound
and the wound is itself the thing that allows you
to connect to the God that sits outside of the ego.
Yeah.
I mean, all of it's there.
The ego is a part of it.
Like all is over, nothing is, right? a part of it like it all is over nothing is right
so um uh one of the one of the questions uh or one of the um downloads i had recently was that
the moment the second god witnessed itself and understood itself was when creation began
so that it's not inherently an issue of the ego. Obviously, we can dissolve the ego at times and work to bring ourselves into resonance so that the will is that of the creators rather than the me disease as Levi calls Wetiko, malignant egophrania, M-E for short.
So this me, my, mine, all-consuming, never-full, the realm of hungry ghosts that we see all over the place.
All over.
Can be shifted, right?
And it is that shift and acknowledgement of the thing,
but also not judging the thing that witnesses it.
The thing that witnesses it is the thing that differentiates.
Like Chuck says, you couldn't take a piss
or tie your shoes properly without an ego.
You don't drive a car or stop on a red light without the ego.
But there's a right use of will, right? And that's a great book that i've been diving into right use of will it's only like 163 pages guy wrote it in 1984
i'm gonna look right now it's brilliant um right yeah mary margrave recommended that one to me
she's out in sedona she's a fantastic lady you would absolutely love. Wait, wait, wait. I know Mary Margaret. Does she teach ALA and these other MIT?
She does. She does a lot of stuff. She's connected to a lot of people.
She's incredible.
And I didn't know.
Yeah, brother. She's special.
Will you text us when we get off of this?
Uh-huh. 100%.
This is my book. Right use of words. Awesome.
Well, you named three books that I've had, and it's beyond synchronicity at this point, but
three books I've had a number of people tell me I need to read. The first two were The Law of
One and The Book of Ra. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's Ra, it's the Law of One. Okay. And then the
other, the last one was the Hermes Toth. What's the name of that one? the kaibalian not to be confused kaibalia although the kaibalia kabbalah i'm saying it way wrong kabbalah came after the kaibalian but a lot of
those initiatic teachings some of them are actually in that it's uh more of a judaic teaching okay
beautiful i've had enough people that it's like somebody tells me to read a book and you're
connected to so many people too i'm sure you get this a lot where it's like, all right, cool.
I'll jot it down.
But if I ordered every fucking book, I'd have a house full of books that never get read.
And then, but finally, when it's like enough people that I respect and love, tell me something.
And it's like, all right, I can't turn away from it now.
So I'm going to have my boy Jose link to that in the show notes for people to get those books.
Because overwhelmingly, I keep getting the same downloads and I'll be diving into those as well.
Yeah, I agree, man.
And I'm excited to read a couple of the books
that you mentioned as well.
And yeah, I'm a big reader.
I love it.
Beautiful.
So back to the shift that we see,
because again, there is so much happening
that anyone can see.
And then for other people, there's maybe nothing happening.
It depends which reality tunnel you're in.
Either way, there is an impetus for us to look within.
There is an impetus for us to connect to our divine nature.
And there's an impetus for us to start to heal and evolve.
That's what the whole nature of the game is.
Whether it's looking at 3D scientific materialism, evolve, evolution. That the whole nature of the game is, right? Whether it's looking at 3d scientific materialism,
evolve evolution.
That's the nature of the game.
Or whether you're looking at the nature of why God created existence in the
first place to know thyself.
Yes.
Right.
You know yourself outside of time.
That's,
that's that fast,
right?
Like,
okay,
I know every possibility,
but infinite possibility,
infinite probability at the speed of now as check likes to use means that we get to, okay, I know every possibility, but infinite possibility, infinite probability at the speed of now, as Jack likes to use, means that we get to, yeah, we are constantly experiencing, re-experiencing and growing in new ways to know thyself.
So talk about some of the practices you have.
And I also want to get in, I want to keep this on the internal spiritual lens.
I know we've talked about sleeping and dream analysis, things like that.
Unpack that further and then we'll take it back
to the physical health side with the biohacks
because second to maybe to only Ben Greenfield,
you've got quite a few toys
that are really good at leveraging the body.
That's me with the toy department.
I got probably like 80 different things.
Yeah, so the spirituality stuff, man.
I think one of the biggest things
that I've had to relearn
over and over and over again
is really letting go of the past
and the future
and staying so in the present
slash eternal now.
And my Don, Don Javier,
always tells me that.
He's like,
your mind is like a trash can.
You know, you have way too many thoughts.
It's like, let go of your thoughts.
And as he's telling me this, I'm like, yeah, you know,
I think about things way too much.
You know, what's happening in the world?
What's happening at the White House right now?
Like, what do I need?
Because you and I are guardians.
We are warriors, you know, at heart.
Like, we like to provide.
We like to protect.
So our brains are always scanning the environment.
Like, I'll be in a restaurant with my girl and somebody will walk in and I'm just one second, like looking at any possible threats, like that's just going off. Like that's our
biology. And to really let go, you know, like Psalms 91 says, 10,000 arrows can be coming at
you. Like imagine 10,000 arrows coming at you. You know, you and I go out, we get guns, we do all this other stuff because, you know, we're protectors. But if we really had
the trust in the eternal now, in the zero point field of what we're talking about, and we were
at the highest level of our consciousness, those 10,000 arrows would be in the sky and we'd be
like, oh, God has me. God's favor is raining down on me. I don't have to worry about this.
And I think that's the biggest thing
that gives me comfort is knowing that, right?
Now, am I demonstrating that?
You know, I got my six, six, five Creedmoor
like right over there.
So I'm not, I don't know if I'm demonstrating that yet,
you know, but I think it's,
it's a good method to get into is the solitude,
is the silence.
Like break away from the stimulation.
Bob Marley says the revolution will not be won on the media, or we could say social media
in today's language.
It'll be won with telepathy.
And the only way to get there is what Paul Cech's talking about, which is zero point
field, which is what Itzhak Bentov and Stalking the Wild Pendulum or the Physics of Consciousness,
which you probably read.
Love it.
One of my favorites.
Yeah.
You know, when you're in that space,
when you have that, what yogis would call that kundalini energy,
when you're Mula Bandra is driving that cerebral spinal fluid
up to your brain and all of a sudden,
you're like in that space where you have access to information
that you didn't even know you had access to.
It's like, it's just coming to you, right?
Because you're a radio.
I like to think as the universe is like a clock
going through space,
which is why you see all these pyramids
on different planets,
because we need to know the location.
The location is the vibration.
And if we can tune into a vibration,
we can tack into the zero point field
and we can cause more of a favorable result
in any single moment.
But it's recognizing that we're far beyond the meat suit, right? Like the big you, the big
universe is operating through you. So I think the work is for me is bringing myself back to the
eternal now. And I can do that with breath work. I can do that with dream time, right? Going into
dreams, music. I love music, man. I got like 40 instruments in my house, a little ADD with the
music, right? But anytime I'm in that flow state where all that blood's pushing to my prefrontal
cortex and I'm just locked in and it's like I'm a channel, right? It's channeling. Then I know I'm
in a good place. And so for me, that's the work. And it's also diving into that shadow
and going into the uncomfortable place
that you've been in, that I've been in.
It's like, what's the message here?
So powerful stuff.
I know I kind of went on a tangent with that,
but hopefully-
No, that was beautiful.
Yeah, brother.
I'm just, and mentioned another great book,
Ishtak Bentov's Stocking the Wild Pendulum
is such an awesome book
because it leverages so many great teachings.
And it's, you know, he doesn't nail,
I know you haven't done plant medicines.
I think it's the only thing he gets wrong,
in my opinion, in the book.
But he, you know, he says like,
hey, this thing is a work in progress.
It's not the end all be all.
People will come after this and improve upon it.
Our understandings are always shifting.
So even the book that's done 30 years later won't get it all right. That's the nature of consciousness
because it's continually evolving. And that's all good. Still one of my all-time favorite books to
read. And by the end of the book, he gives very tactical real-world tools on how to access
these points of consciousness that I've stumbled upon loosely from time to time or in plant medicines
and dreams, but not necessarily with intention and proper meditation. One of the people that I
absolutely love and adore, Emily Fletcher, who's been on this podcast, she teaches Ziva meditation.
Love Emily.
She's incredible. That is a gift that I would put on par with any plant medicine tool I've ever used,
with the importance of what it's done for my life.
She says, we're not trying to get better at meditation.
We're using meditation to get better at life.
That resonated thoroughly with me.
I've accessed these points, these samadhi points, in that meditation.
That's exactly what Ishtak's talking about,
you know, where it's all of a sudden awareness expands so far beyond what I thought was possible that it's like, oh shit, like there's the juju I've been looking for. And it's right here the
whole time, but we need to know these techniques. So encourage people to listen to that podcast,
hit her up and definitely read that book because
there's a lot of beautiful teachings in it.
Yeah.
There's a documentary on Amazon called Adam as well, which is his teachings of the book
in like an hour and a half.
It was shot in like the seventies.
So it's like old video footage and stuff, but it's actually very valuable information.
It's called Adam.
Adam, like A-T-O-M or Adam, like the name?
Yeah.
Okay.
A-T-O-M.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
We'll link to that as well.
Alright, let's geek out a bit. I mean, you've
got some oxygen stuff going on.
It looks like you've got a salt lamp
wall behind you or something. Yeah, so
this is a salt. It's a thousand pounds
of salt. So it's just
the feeling of it is absolutely incredible.
You know, it ionizes the air. It
purifies the air. It dries it
out a little bit. So I got a couple of humidifiers over here as well, but I got the Ing3 right next to
me.
So as I'm standing up working, I'm on like a surfboard that keeps me moving a little
bit too.
So I'm not so stagnant in motion.
One of those endo boards?
Yeah.
One of those endo boards.
I love it.
Those are great.
Yeah.
And, you know, probably my favorite biohacks right now,
and they've been throughout all time.
It's infrared sauna, which sunlighten.
I have a five-person sunlight and I do yoga in.
And then I also have a cold plunge from Cedar Lakes,
which is awesome.
So you're sitting in the tub.
It smells like cedar.
I'm in Sedona, so I get the beautiful Thunder Mountain I can see. see and it's just a great experience i try to do that as much as possible you live right next
to anahata right yeah literally 10 minutes away she's my sister man like that girl so cool
that's incredible we're we're hanging we're gonna spend some time with each other
here in a couple months for sure she's all love like that. Such a, an amazing human being. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
We've been out on the land a few times and it's just, yeah,
she's such a powerful powerhouse.
No doubt.
Yeah. Yeah. So as far as other biohacks,
I've been doing NED for like three years.
I don't know if you've dabbled with that.
Oh yeah. I got,
I like to toot my own horn and say,
I have the record sub three minutes.
Oh yeah.
You told me that.
Yep.
Dude,
you're an animal.
Three minutes.
It's,
well,
the whole thing is,
and I never told the guy who was going back and forth with me,
he was like a lawyer or something like that,
but I'll give the hack for people because it's,
it's,
there's no other way I'd rather do it.
Really.
It's Wim Hof breathing before you, before it goes in.
So, I mean, you get plugged in and you have it corked and then you run the bag and you
don't have to, I did this with a 16 gauge and a blood pressure cuff on the bag, like
it was for a time.
Right.
But even if I'm running like a, a 22 gauge or something like that, um, you know, which,
which if I'm, you know, moving the dial up and down, it might be a 45
minute experience. If I just flood it with a 22 gauge, it's going to be somewhere in the teens,
maybe 20 minutes. But if I'm doing the Wim Hof breathing with holds, you're accelerated to the
point of stillness and highness. It is a vibratory felt experience of euphoria the entire
fucking time. There's no other way to do it. It's either, either I deal with pain and consciously
work on that. Like, okay, I'm receiving this now. It hurts as I feel uncomfortable, or I literally
breathe through it, which is a purge that hyper oxygenates and changes the blood chemistry.
And it goes from a shitty experience to one of the best experience.
One of the most euphoric experiences I've ever had.
Oh my God.
And you don't need it.
You do it 30 seconds ahead of time.
Your tetany will kick in much quicker.
You know,
that's the curly hands,
curly toes.
Yeah.
And when you're,
when you're in the point of tetany,
you just do a breath lock and hold.
And as,
and you can hold as long as you want.
You know,
it's kind of like what Tim Ferriss was talking about before.
Oh, okay.
When he was in the oxygen chamber, he'd do some breath holds and he could go seven minutes.
And people were like, I don't know if I recommend that.
And it's like, yeah, yeah.
If we're guinea pigs, we're going to try some shit.
But hold your breath as long as you want.
When you start to feel pain in the stomach again, slowly start bringing the breath back up through the nose.
In through the nose, out through the nose, and then you can go
to the mouth-to-mouth. But that makes the experience, I mean, it's night and day difference.
So that's my recommendation for anybody using NAD because it's, and of course, if we're working
with mitochondria, which is NAD's, maybe the whole reason why we're doing it, cellular cleaning,
stuff like that,ygen shuttles metabolic waste
and improves function of mitochondria, energy production.
It's the substrate for it, right?
Outside of, you know, fats and carbohydrates.
So that's the trick for sure.
Three minutes.
I've never heard anybody do that.
In fact, my fastest time ever was like 15 minutes
and it was doing more of like the SRF,
Self-Realization fellowship uh hung saw
breathing so you know six seconds in six seconds out holding it for 20-25 seconds but you're right
about the hold because the holds when you want that thing opened up right so super powerful
and I do the juve red lights before I do thebaric, which causes NADH in the body,
which helps absorb NAD+.
And then I do the IV after that.
And I just did five days of 750 mil
to reset all the neurochemicals in my brain.
You can also inject NAD every day.
Like you get it from your naturopath or a doctor
and you can do 50 or 100 mil injection,
which they say is equivalent to having an IV once a week,
which is another way to do it.
You don't experience any of the,
a little bit of the discomfort, but not like an IV.
This would be like an intramuscular injection?
Yeah, you got it.
Okay.
Or no, sub-Q.
Okay, oh, super cool.
Even easier.
So when you're doing peptides,
I've done BPC, CJC, tesamorlin, epithalin, all the peptides.
I love peptides.
It's another big hack.
They're phenomenal.
I've recovered from a torn adductor, torn meniscus.
I'm actually gearing up for another six-month run that just came in the mail yesterday from
my buddies at Ways to Well.
I'm going to have on ways2well.com.
They're phenomenal.
They do telemedicine, blood work.
You go into diagnostics, you get on the phone with your doctor,
and then they're all optimization.
So great folks there.
But yeah, BPC-157 is just incredible.
Of course, Greenfield's written entire articles on it.
Oh, yeah.
It's so safe and such a beautiful, you know, it's just like gastric,
the same amino acid structure as gastric juice in the body.
It's not like a foreign thing, a synthetic.
It's just this beautiful compound that has the ability to heal connective tissue, collagen, tendon, and ligament.
It's really phenomenal stuff.
Speaking of healing, leaky gut, BPC-150 is also known for that.
I've been eating CM moss, sea moss gel from
this company called Akasha. I'll have them send you some, man. It's like really, really good stuff.
It's got 98 minerals in it, I believe. The human body has 108, right? So this stuff is just so
mineral dense and it actually tastes pretty good. So I'll have them send you some of that.
Oh yeah, I'll check that out.
That's another new thing I've been testing. I've, I've eaten nori and kelp and dulse and all these
other sea vegetables just because they're loaded. They help your iodine. You know, we're getting
bombarded by electromagnetic frequencies and this new 5g thing. So it's important to ramp up some
of our sea veggies as well. Um, super powerful. So that's a biohack. Like I said, red light, hyperbaric, um,
planting my feet on earth, man, it doesn't cost a thing, but going outside in the morning and,
and I do sun gazing. So talk about the biggest biohack, like literally looking into the sun for
10, 15 minutes, not in the beginning. Cause you have to build up. If you have mucus in your eyes,
it's going to sting a little bit. But having less mucus in your body
actually allows you to stare into the sun more.
And you get information.
I'll look up during the day.
I'll set an intention to have an answer of something.
I'll look into the sun
and then like two, three o'clock in the afternoon,
I'll look up and I'll literally hear
through auditory response
the answer to my question that I had.
So that's a super powerful
spiritual biohack one of the best things you can do and i actually learned how to do this
at a ashram in the south of france part of the great white brotherhood um not like white because
it's but just white because it's um it's this hundreds of, probably a thousand years old,
based on Saint Germain
and like some of the other ascended masters
that were around created this ashram.
And it's Omron, Omron Michael Ivanhoff,
who super powerful, you know,
in the early 1930s came from France
and taught all these people how to meditate
and use the Kundalini energy in ways and stuff. So super cool.
And how long would you guys go?
Cause I know you dove deeper into this with check and it was a question that I
had actually that I totally forgot for,
thank you for intuiting and bringing it up. Yeah.
The combination of fasting with sun gazing I've done, I mean,
there was that documentary where the guy, you know,
split off from his family. He was doing two hours in the morning,
two hours in the evening. and then he stopped eating.
And he was just, you know, eating the light rays.
And yeah, and you know, and it's like fucked up all his social relationships because it's, I mean, I were laughing with Aubrey because I remember when Rob Wolf went to his intermittent fasting schedule change to only breakfast and lunch. And it's like, well, that's cool.
If you can be around dinner with your family and not eat, or if you're going to section yourself off, but like dinner is so social for the both of us
that like probably don't want to do that.
Even if it meant like the most optimized, you know, fat loss and recovery and things like that.
But as far as like completely taking food out of the equation,
like maybe that's what we ascend to in 5D.
I'm not sure.
But as of right now, think about that. Like you would have to be a fucking hermit to not,
you know, to skip every meal permanently and who knows what happens there. But you talked about
fasting as like, sorry, go ahead, jump in. That's the biggest risk with fasting. Like you
legitimately feel so good. Like a seven day fast, every day you're fasting is a day where it's cleaning up your meridian.
So first root, you're going to be thinking about survival.
I need food.
I need food.
Wow, I'm so hungry, which is why the root chakra is so compelling.
It's because it's your survival.
And then each day after it, as you go up into the solar plexus, as you go up into your heart,
your crown chakra, all the way through, every day that you fast, it's cleaning and clearing
whatever you're working on through that.
So at day seven, you're basically, you know,
if you're pure and clean enough, you're telepathic.
You're seeing things because your whole crown chakra
is open, like there's nothing blocking you.
It actually takes a lot of energy on a metabolic level
to even eat, right?
And most people are so compromised in their
gut anyway. It's like hiring somebody to go out in the garden and dig for three years straight
because your digestion's always working. It's always on. So when we fast, it's actually giving
your body a break. I like doing water fasts. I like bone broth fasting, juice fasting, all of it.
But again, check with your doctor. Kyle and I are not
doctors, you guys. It can definitely, if you're impacted adrenals or thyroid function or anything
like that, you want to check that out first before you go into a full-on 30-day fast or whatever it
is for you. Yeah, I've done 21-day juice fasts in the past that were much higher in carbohydrates than probably should have been.
I've done two-week-long celery juice fasts.
And then really what got me was doing the five-day water fast.
But I didn't realize these seven days working with the chakras on each day.
But as you're explaining that, that is the sequential order of where I felt my energy. And day three, I mean, it felt like,
there's a lot that I've worked on in the solar plexus,
self-empowerment, and it felt like I had a pit in my gut on day three.
But day four, every time that I've done this,
I mean, I've only done it twice.
It's not like I've got tons of experience here.
Day four, I just felt peace.
I mean, I felt like, you make it to day four, I'm good.
I can felt peace. I mean, I felt like, like you make it to day four. I'm good. I can keep going.
You know, both times on day five, I finished with some form of psychedelic. So
I broke the fast with some medicine. So I guess that just skipped me a couple levels there.
Yeah. It's shortcutted, dude. You hit F zero.
Oh man. That's a great reference too. Um with the sun gazing, this is something that we
thankfully have access to just based on our house location. We're in a suburb with houses right on
top of houses near the airport in Austin. But for the morning, which is my favorite,
and being closer to the equator, you don't have to be up that early to beat the sunrise.
And when you make it out there to watch it, I mean, sunrise is, in my opinion, shit on sunsets.
Unless you're on the Pacific Ocean watching it go down.
Yeah, that's special too, but it's really special.
And the whole day is then built off the back of that energy.
You just ride that wave the entire day.
I remember the Admiral talking
about that. One of the commencement speeches, make your bed each morning. Yes. Even if it's sloppy,
right? It's such a, it's such a inspirational speech. It's like at the end of the day,
if you've done nothing else, you come back to your bed at night and here it is made for you.
Right. It's like one of those little, little hacks we can do for our sense of wellbeing that
goes a long way, much further than just the
tidiness around the house. And I think that is just so much exponentially more when we can get
the sunlight in first thing in the morning. It's like, wow, everything has shifted in a way that's
really hard to explain. Yeah, so good. So the sunrise, getting all those rays in, nothing even compares to it. I mean,
you could have the best juve wall or biocharger on the planet, but the sun, it's magic. And
yeah, I mean, breathwork is free as well. You've done a lot of that. You've been a big proponent
of that biohack. Yeah, having a garden, it's one of the greatest things you can do,
actually working in the
soil, getting all those good microbes in your gut from the veggies and actually taking the seeds and
changing the DNA of the seed by spitting on it and then putting it in the soil. So it's
alchemically designed for your body is super powerful as well. Anything with food, like I'm
in it now, just because, you know, whatever is going to happen in the future, like we need to be hunters and gardeners maybe. And it's good to have that
information up here until it's too late. So looking at that as well has been huge for us.
We're getting some tower gardens here in Sedona as well. So growing things indoors, we're like a
zone eight, I believe where I am. So it's hard to grow things in the winter from the frost and the elevation that we have so huge biohack with that um yeah they talk uh you
can look that up online if you have no idea where you are just say like which zone am i in for food
growing and then punch in your zip code and it'll show you exactly what grows there which season it
grows there obviously um there's whole companies i forget. I think I'll have my buddy Jose.
He sent me it.
He does the show notes.
I'll have him link to a greenhouse
that you can fit in your backyard
and you can grow anything.
David Avocado Wolf talks about that.
You literally grow anything in most places
in your greenhouse.
And just understanding this,
like the meek will inherit the earth, right?
That's something that always stuck out to me.
And Graham Hancock talked about this. Like if we get hit by an asteroid or if the grid goes down or if any other thing
happens um yeah it's nice to have a little supply in your pantry but without the skills that shit's
going to run out at some point right without the skill set it's going to run out at some point and
and understanding that what really what that means the meek will inherit the earth like if an asteroid
hits depending on where it hits it's the curanderos the people that live off what that means, the meek will inherit the earth. Like if an asteroid hits, depending on where it hits,
it's the curanderos, the people that live off the land,
the people that are connected,
that never lost their connection to the earth,
that will understand how to work with that.
They aren't dependent upon electricity.
They aren't dependent upon plumbing and things like that,
that are actually going to know how to navigate the waters
and carry this forward.
And that's arguably who did it in the past when we had massive destruction on earth you
know the massive floods that were talked about on on virtually you know six out of the seven
continents all have different stories of the big flood that's something to keep in mind and it's
not you know we can we can go down that rabbit hole and say this is armageddon shit's hitting
the fan blah blah blah but a little prep goes a long way. And Rob Wolf talked about that last on the podcast. It's
like, if I do 20% of the prepping and at least have an education around this and have tried
going for a hunt and know how to field dress an animal and know how to stalk, that uncovers so
much underlying fear that might be operating in the background of my waking experience.
If I cover those bases, that alleviates and allows me to consciously choose where I want
to be without having this unlooked at psychological fear, this innate fear that I have, especially
as a provider or husband and a father.
Yes, I agree, my man.
There's a book called One Second After, I believe, where it talks about legitimately what would happen, how the meek will inherit the earth, how we're going to have to understand how to hunt, how to garden, how to grow things.
I believe it's called One Second or maybe One Minute After. I can look that up for you, too.
Cool. We'll link to that as well.
Yeah, but you're in Austin, man.
You're protected. Austin has its own power grid.
And Texas does.
Yeah, we're also coming from California.
They talk about droughts here, and I'm like,
you didn't have rain for four months? That's a drought?
It's fucking comical.
My whole life in California was a drought.
Every aquifer is full here.
We've got the Colorado.
We've got several lakes.
There's water everywhere.
It's green.
All four seasons, all four seasons get rain.
Yeah.
And the land here, you know, we've had some European farming and things like that, but
it's not decimated in the way where there's just nonstop Monsanto seeds and a whole culture of big agriculture.
You know, there's a lot of ranches here and, you know, oil money meant buying up a lot of the land and people complain about that.
But that means there's a lot of land that can be purchased that you can grow on just about anything.
And with greenhouses, you can literally grow anything.
So very fortunate being here.
And obviously I think that's part of the draw,
not just from a freedom standpoint
for people to come to this state,
but the fact that there is this innate sense of
the earth is still in resonance in this place.
If it comes down to it,
there's a lot of
places we can go and a lot of space for people as well i uh i'm looking at houses a real estate
agent sent me a couple yesterday for austin in your area actually like the lake travis area so
i'm excited to check it out hell yeah yeah we're all we're all looking to go a bit west uh the
blue zones have to be or for whatever reason a little bit more restrictive so
well now they're looking west as well technically like didn't arizona just get voted i don't even
know how that happened i've lived there for i lived there for seven years and and maybe that's
the case and look big tech's coming here a lot of people from california and new york as well
and a lot of my listeners are california la new York City, you know, but part of that, I guess, is perhaps necessary so that there is more co-mingling.
And it's not just everyone that believes a certain thing lives in one place and everybody
that believes the opposite lives in a different place. Like, no, let's all come together
and have conscious conversations around what is the best way forward. Do you want to sit in a cell known as your house?
Do you want to make that your jail cell?
Or do you want to make it an open-air prison system
where we go from point A to point B,
operating by big government's choice,
and everything's fucking surveilled?
No.
That's not what I want,
and that's what it looks like it's heading towards.
So maybe if we can start to...
Good brother. Control-Alt-Delete. Yeah. I want and that's what it looks like it's heading towards so maybe if we can start to good brother control all delete yeah yeah we cannot see that possibility yeah so yeah I see us coming together I think loneliness is the biggest epidemic that we're up against and I
think they they prey on that let's keep these people separated by six feet, six inches, which is an odd number, right? So I'm all about coming together.
Like, let's break the chains. Let's really open it up. Let's be vulnerable.
And that's what we're all about. Especially at Organifi, we had placemats. We can't use our
office now, which is interesting. That say, you know, be prepared to hug. And as you walk in, 20, 30 hugs every day,
being human is about connection.
And I think we're headed into a great place.
I think there's going to be peace on earth
and I'm excited to see that day soon rather than later.
Yeah, brother.
I think we are in the timeline for big shifts,
big changes all in our lifetime. And that was part and parcel for life.
Now with the technological changes and everything that's happening and we get
to see, you know,
how these have been used correctly and maybe reimagine how to use some of
these, these gifts that we have together to come together,
not to divide and further ourselves from one another.
Yep. Yep. Lots of agendas happening, but we'll see.
Yeah. It's been absolutely awesome
having you on the podcast brother we got to do it again yeah and uh i gotta see you if you're
coming out this way hit me up and when i'm coming out your way i'll hit you up brother
yeah jaggers and paul check both say we need to grab a workout oh yeah an animal so
make it happen beautiful yeah thanks for having me on too man i uh i love this
conversation let's continue to share books stay in contact and uh we're in this together brother
absolutely drew it's uh it's it's it's it's been too long but it's beautiful having you
for the ride brother yeah likewise, my man. Bye.