Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #189 Dr. Nick Berry

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

Dr Nick Berry is an (al)chemist! Truly, he has such a gift for understanding the plants used in his oils. We get into a deep dive about his intuitive use of blends and how you can mix and match yourself. He also gives a bit of the science behind their processes of extraction which brings the most to the finished product. While not a sponsor, he did grace us with a discount code below so go check them out! Connect with Essential Oil Wizardry:   Website: essentialoilwizardry.com Discount code: KING10 Instagram: @essentialoilwizardry  Facebook: Essential Oil Wizardry  YouTube: Essential Oil WIzardry                   Sponsors:   AMP Human Check out the latest from AMP Human in their D+ Lotion! It’s a topical vitamin D3 supplement that will help boost immunity, sleep and cognitive performance! Shop at the link below and use code word KYLE15 at check out for 15% off your order. AMPHuman.com/KYLE   Bioptimizers To get “Cognibiotics” an amazing combination of Nootropic AND gut health support, click the link below and use code word KINGSBU10 for an additional 10% off. cognibiotics.com    Birch is the comfiest mattress I’ve owned, not to mention it’s all organic, non-toxic sourced materials. With this offer you get $200 off of any mattress, two free pillows, their standard 100 night risk free trial and 25 year guarantee. You can’t go wrong folks. Go to birchliving.com/kyle and use codeword KYLE   Lucy I absolutely love this stuff! I’ve been using it to get a little juiced for workouts as well as recording episodes! To get 20% off Lucy Gum, go to https://lucy.co and use the code KKP at checkout. Connect with Kyle:   Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com  Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

Welcome back to the show, everybody. Today's guest is another one of Paul Jack's guests from the past. Surprise. It is Dr. Nick Berry. Dr. Nick Berry is the formulator and mad genius behind essential oil wizardry. Many of you have heard me talk about the benefits of plant medicines in the past. Many of you have no idea. Actually, I don't think anybody listening to this has no idea what plant medicines are, but many of us associate that with psychedelic, psychoactive drugs, which are awesome.

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Dr. Nick Berry, welcome to the podcast, brother. It's a pleasure to be here with you today, Kyle. Yeah, I first heard you on Living 4D with Paul Cech. And Paul is an amazing friend of ours who connected us. And I think our daughter, who is six months now, was still in the womb. And he sent out a care package that just blew us out of the water. I was like, wow. And you were so tapped in.

You were like, oh, you can pick some things if you want. Or I can just kind of go with intuition. And everything you sent was phenomenal. And there's a variety of ways we're using everything that you guys have created from throwing it on the hot rocks in the sauna to just wearing it on our wrists in the sauna to inhaling it through this volcano vaporizer we got as Paul Cech likes to use. So lots of cool stuff. I want to dive into all the best practices and uses of this. But first, I want to dive into you. Where'd you grow up? What got you into all the wild and wonderful plants that you have become a teacher

and a master with? Well, thanks to the opportunity to share, Kyle. I grew up in Southern California in a suburb called Santa Clarita. And I knew at a very young age that I really wanted to support people. And I was always fascinated by the human body and drugs as I was growing in my younger age. And when I was 17, I became really clear that I wanted to become a pharmacist to serve the population. And that has been a journey that has continued to grow and evolve. I graduated pharmacy school when I was 24. And I participated in a medical mission down in Central America after I graduated pharmacy school. And I got to see so many people from different cultures that had really big smiles on their face and much less material objects than my peer group that I was surrounded by. And I noticed how happy everyone was.

And I kept an open mind and an open heart and got to learn about lots of different types of medicines, herbal, holistic kind of perspectives, a little bit about homeopathics. And so a real transformation for me happened when I was, after I was done with pharmacy school, I started working at an Eastern Western pharmacy. I had a year of really amazing work there, kind of integrating both herbal medicine and pharmaceutical medicine for our patients at a private pharmacy. And Burning Man was an experience that I had that year. And that really opened up my mind to lots of different possibilities. And at the other side of the Burning Man experience, I had some friends that were starting a cannabis testing facility. And I recognize that cannabis is a powerful medicine.

And I also believe that it was widely abused. And I felt as if maybe there's a way that me as a pharmacist could add some legitimacy into the area of medicine as it relates to pharmacy. So that was kind of my first dive in as a pharmacist exploring the world of natural medicines. And it was really as I started to dive deeper into the cannabis plant, and I learned more about the cannabinoids and specifically the terpenes, it's the terpenes which brought me into exploring the vast array in the world of essential oils. That's incredible. Let's break down terpenes. We've had maybe one or two guests on the show that have spoken to the benefits of cannabis. Obviously, so much more has come out as of late in probably the last 10, 15 years.

I remember right when CBD was coming on the scene, I was living in California. And not even speaking of terpenes, just some of the different cannabinoids, CBD got me from taking four 200 milligram ibuprofen every single day, sometimes twice a day to get through the end of my fight career. I was like, whoa, I can go completely off of non-steroidal anti-inflammatories and feel good, sleep better. All these things are improved. And so the endocannabinoid system was something that just shifted me. And alongside with ayahuasca and different plant medicines, my whole world was opened up. But terpenes really became something that was something that just, it's just a whole rabbit hole of stuff that can influence everything from

cognitive function to immune function and hormone levels and neurochemistry. I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's so much to this that is undiscovered and just barely being talked about. Talk about that a bit and talk about how these interrelate with one another throughout the plant kingdom. So terpenes are aromatic molecules that are responsible for both flavor and fragrance. And in nature, these terpene molecules are the communication molecules. It is the flower's ability to call upon pollinators to spread its wild pollen into nature to get the information and to spread its wild seeds. The terpenes are what's responsible for jasmine's beautiful aroma that can attract humans to inspire them to plant more jasmine flowers inside of their garden and to continue the plant's existence. So for

centuries and throughout time, terpenes has been the plant molecule's ability to continue to harmonize and invite its continuation of its species. And at very small concentrations, these terpene molecules are pharmacologically active inside of the human body. And so these terpenes, when you consider the trees, the sap that comes from the tree, it contains immune-supporting molecules that help the tree recover from a scratch. And it's this same resin that can be harvested and utilized as medicine in cells to help the human body with a gash as well. Yeah, there's so much there. One thing that's come to mind is one of the studies that came out about, I think it was called forest bathing. I remember when I was working on it, they had coined that term and they talked about this study in Japan where a 30-minute walk each day in the city, in Tokyo, increased fitness levels to a

degree, but it didn't do much for depression. But 30-minute walk in nature three times a week dropped all-cause depression by 60%. And there was this wondering why. So as they looked into that, they understood that these pheromones and different things, terpenes, are being secreted. And it's the fragrance, the way the plant communicates with us. It's constantly in communication with all of its surrounding. And just by immersing yourself into that nature experience, that has a direct response on how we think, feel, and operate. And it just blew me away.

But yeah, as I was thinking of like D-limonene, things like that, that are just like, you know, not very well known, but things that can actually, you know, what would give lemon or citrus its citrus flavor, that tang is going to be something that helps boost our immune system as well. Many of these components that are found throughout things through the plant kingdom and certainly with cannabis and different plant medicines are there. How did you really start to dive into that? Did you come from the science perspective, from what you had learned in the West and marry that to your experiences in Central America?

Talk more about this origin story. Yeah, so it precisely did start from kind of a Western mindset that has quickly adapted into something that is more developed from the intuitive sense. So my journey exploring the essential oils really started off by studying on PubMed.gov and looking up studies associated with individual terpene molecules and understanding a little bit more about the pharmacology or the different types of effects one would expect if something was high in linalool or D-limonene or alpha-pinene and kind of was able to see these different effects of these individual terpene molecules. Then as I started to integrate the essential oils composition, I had a better understanding of what types of effects one might experience from the essential oils. And my practical experience really, as my collection of essential oils began to grow, I started to share with friends.

And friends were very inspired by this offering and really invited me to share a lot more profusely. So I asked the question, how do I do that? Where should I bring the oils to? And the answer was different festivals and events. And so I was so fortunate to have such in-person experience over the course of weekends or longer experiences where I got to engage with the local community and receive feedback about using individual essential oils or different blends that I formulated and receiving the feedback, not just instantaneous feedback, but how that would evolve over the course of the week. And so this was my on the ground training, if you will, utilizing different

books, connecting with several different mentors, including John Steele and Will LaPaz. And so I've had some great mentors come into my life to really support this work with the essential oils. And I've just been listening and experimenting and diving right in ever since then. So good. I've noticed, I've been able to see just in the short while how much you guys have expanded, even you know finding some of these what are traditionally known as master plant teachers down down from the amazon like boven sauna and uh you know the blue lotus flower they talk about from ancient egypt and and the power of that um but what's guiding you now as you continue to expand and continue to formulate and i want

to talk about the blends and really what, because I think that's really what has separated you from the rest. There are some really good essential oil companies out there, but what, in my opinion, has separated you from the rest is the fact that you understand this harmony better than most people do. And that comes through with my felt experience and using, and my family's and everybody else that comes over and I'm like, hey, you got to try this. So there is a felt experience with that,. Um, but talk about, you know, this guidepost, this intuition that's leading you to these different plants. Have you worked with different plants in the Amazon? Have you worked with, uh, you know, any of the, you just kind of just follow

the clues and, and, and find them for yourself. Yeah. So, um, I, I have worked with quite a number of different plant medicines in my life. And really, the guide map, if you will, it comes from a heart-centered place of exploration and excitement. was first... When I first visited Oregon about four years ago, I was connecting with my friend Eric, who is currently one of our team members who's extracting Tongkat Ali downstairs right now as we speak. And Eric and I had a conversation while we were sitting on his couch talking about how amazing it would be to extract these wild and uncommon botanicals and to be able to share that with other people, to offer people opportunities and alternatives to traditional pharmaceuticals and to realize that we need to build this balance, this harmony and a balance with nature. And so it's really the plants that invite me to explore their realm and to share them with others. I like that, brother. Something that has been really on my mind this year,

last year I dove headfirst into dissolving illusion and cutting through to the truth of what's happening in the world. And this year, harmony has been one of my major intentions. And I've thought of that through the body, just as Paul Cech, through much of his work, has really been able to prove and back scientifically and back holistically that we are tuning forks. What brings us into resonance improves all systems. And plants are such a huge part of that. Oh, look, you got to, there we go. Yeah, get that closer to your mic, right at your throat there. One more time.

He's got a massive tuning fork. I think the frequency isn't picking up, but that is a huge crystal tuning fork. I think the frequency isn't picking up, but that is a huge crystal tuning fork. I haven't seen that before. That's incredible. It looks like the size of some of the hand sound bowls. Yeah, that's beautiful, brother. So this tuning fork that we have operates better when we step into alignment with the right foods, the right hydration, the right sleep, the right amount of sunlight, circadian cycles, all of these things. And at the same time, we have the ability to work with different master plants that can tune us in simply by inhaling them, putting them on our skin, working with them in different ways.

And the net effect of that is a global effect it's a holistic effect that impacts the entire body and it's something that really it it it's such a cool way to understand you know like we when i watched avatar you know the first thought that i had was i was like this is such a brilliant way to show what the earth is it's such a beautiful and awesome way to throw show through cgi exactly where we live right now, not outside of this planet. This is what it is. We have the ability to tune in. All of this is in communication with us if we listen. And I know I'm off on a little tangent right now, but talk to me about what brings you into resonance and what are some of your practices for cultivating that?

And were you always that way? Pharmacy school, things like that can seem like a bit draining. To see where you are now, such a vibrant person, creating so many gifts in the world. What has helped you to cultivate that and continue to allow you to do so? Yeah, thanks to the question, Kyle. So it's definitely been a continuous journey of growth for me. And I would say that my current practices are, as I've continued to detoxify my body and get my body and my mind and my heart more and more clear, I find that more subtle practices are powerful for keeping me in resonance. And so different things

like morning practice of meditation, like 20 to 40 minutes a day. I've been using a lot of Dr. Joe's meditations, Dr. Joe Dispenza's meditations, and I find that to be a really helpful practice for me. And I usually incorporate that in the morning and or sometimes in the evening. I do infrared sauna typically about 30 to 45 minutes in the morning at about 130 to 140 degrees. And I like to ingest different types of minerals. I find that minerals are really helpful for the physical body and the mind to really help information travel more effectively. And so minerals are part of a regular diet and supplementation for myself. I like to go outside and enjoy the fresh air and go on walks. Ashland, even though it's winter in Ashland, today is actually a beautiful

sunny day. So I'm going to enjoy a walk here after our podcast together. Other practices include jumping on the trampoline or moving my physical body or stretching or exercising um i've been doing a lot of uh breath work practices as well um i i'm imagining you know josh trent uh he put out a program that i've been enjoying as a real simple breathe practice um another one of my friends, Daniel Raphael, has this dream porting breath that I find to be very deep and powerful very quickly. And so lots of these practices I find really help me to keep in an elevated balance in my center. And when I'm in that state, I'm able to really adapt to shifts in a more profound and soft way. Without the shifts bending or breaking me, I'm able to adapt and it really

triggers the resilience inside of me. And then the oils and the tinctures are really powerful allies to when I notice my physical body or my emotional body or an imbalance coming up within me, I find that the oils or the plants are really able to help immediately shift something before it becomes an imbalance that pulls me away from my center. That's such a huge topic. I mean, I want to dive into that. You brought up Josh Trent, though. I got to give him a shout out. My boy from Wellness Force just moved here to Austin, Texas. We actually were talking about you just the other day when we had a... I think I brought the throat tincture over for the volcano and had a little fun with everybody using the organic tobacco and the different tea. And it was phenomenal. But yeah, he's doing great and he's about to be a

daddy. So super pumped about that. Congratulations, Josh. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful human. You talked a bit about, you know, clearing the resonance and this state shift that can happen. And it's such an important thing because, you know, it's important not to stick our head in the sands like an ostrich, especially as emotions arise, anything that's arising within us. It needs its space to be felt. It needs space to actually come through so that it can be transmuted and alchemized and we can have a better understanding. But we can shift our perspective, hopefully to open our awareness so that we're able to see outside the box around why the things are arising that are arising. And state changes, state shifts can be such a beautiful way to work with anything that's arising within us. Quick breath work, whether that's one round of Wim Hof

or a one-minute ice bath or three minutes of breath of fire. Any of those things can change neurochemistry in a way that creates space and then we can readdress what's coming up for us. But the essential oils are phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. I had a long two-hour discussion with an intuitive who I love, Mary Margrave. I always give her shout outs on this podcast, soul-attunements.com. She's incredible. But it was zapping. And I never scheduled that prior to a podcast. I know we had to rework some things to get this podcast going. So I was like, I just got to run with it. And yeah,

they hit the celestial right before we came on. And I'm beaming right now. I mean, we're not doing video, but I've had a shitting grin on my face the whole time because it allows me, it's just up leveling my emotional body and my energy levels and everything that goes in between. And I find that to be not always the tool that I look for. You know, it's like I'm not always running to the cabinet to grab the essential oils, but it is a palpable feeling. So talk about some of the different things that you use in that experience to have a state shift and some of the ways that you process stuff going on. Because, you know, there's so much going on in the external right now that people,

I think, are having a hard time, myself included. I'll raise my hand, you know, for the hand raising motion isn't coming through the audio, but I promise you hands raised. I've had a hard time processing a lot with the external and I'd love for you to unpack some of the ways you manage that. Yeah. So as it relates to some of the botanical tools that I've developed, as that's what I'm hearing the question is, what types of essential oils, different blends, ultrasonic extraction tinctures, the different tools that I've formulated that I utilize that can be really supportive for bringing myself back into balance. Is that the question? Yeah, brother. Dive into it, please. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, during these times, there's a lot of, there's a lot unearthing that we have the opportunity to bear witness to. And the type of effects that that can have on our heart or emotional body can be really devastating for many people. And so really the question is, how are we receiving the information and what types of feelings are that bringing up in us?

And are we suppressing those emotions and or are we going all in and allowing the emotions to be felt? And so there's so many different tools that I've formulated over the years that can be really helpful and supportive. And so if we wanted to talk about stress relief, for instance, I have quite a number of them. And what's really special about the plants is lots of times they can have synergistic effects. Sometimes those synergistic effects can actually sound like they're opposites, like you can be stimulated but also simultaneously relaxed. How fortunate will you be if you can relax your nervous system and slow down your mind, but also be extra focused at the task at hand? And so that is the power of plants. When integrated in a conscientious way, you can really utilize very specific frequencies of information from these plants.

And so I'm happy to share kind of a collection of different oils and extracts that can be really supportive. And I'm happy to start off with stress relief. Yeah, brother, dive right into it. I don't think there's ever been a more important time to understand stress relief and the, brother, dive right into it. I don't think there's ever been a more important time to understand stress relief and the ways that we can work with these. Cool. So our ultrasonic skullcap tincture is a really powerful plant. And skullcap is said to be a nervine tonic herb. And what I noticed from the skullcap

is not only does it relax the nervous system, but I almost find it to be adaptogenic to the nervous system. And so skullcap is great if I'm feeling a higher level of stress, if I want to go to bed, if I wanted to concentrate on work, if I wanted to hop and join you for a podcast. And so I actually have a bottle of our ultrasonic skullcap right here. So I'm happy to enjoy a little bit with you guys on the airwaves. Now, the skullcap, what I find is that the way that the skullcap works is it relaxes the nervous system and it slows down an overactive mind. But it can also help to focus, to enhance your focus and create more clarity of thought and mind. And so I find it to be very supportive for the workday when you're in your process of creation, but you're also feeling a lot high level of stress. So I'm going to use about half a dropper full held under the tongue for about 30 seconds.

I'll just fill the airways while you're going. Thank you, brother. Yeah, it's been a big year for a lot of people. And I think we see so much now coming to fruition for a lot of people that there's still so many question marks. And for myself, still so many question marks. And one of the saving graces is the serenity prayer. It's this idea that I will ask God for the wisdom to change the things that I can and let go of the things that I cannot change. Doesn't mean I'm not going to understand the things that I cannot change, but I'm not going to worry about that. I'm not going to fret over that. I'm going to do

what's right in front of me. Paul Selig talks about this quite a bit in his transmissions. As you know, this big set dude looks kind of like me. He's driving down the road and he keeps asking God, why am I here? Why am I here? Why am I here? And then he sees this tree that's fallen over in the center of the road. He gets out of the truck and he's big enough to move the tree out of the road. He gets back in and he keeps driving.

Why am I here? Why am I here? Why am I here? Not realizing that that allowed every car behind him to pass smoothly on the road. And so the work to be done is the work of the day. And that's often presented to us. It's not like we have to go out and find that. It's how we show up in every decision we make.

It's the authenticness of our choice and how we show up to each moment. And I think that's a brilliant way to look at it, to know that the chunk that I take care of that's right in front of me is enough to be a shift. Oh, may we all play our parts and our roles, Kyle. And I want to honor you for doing that. I really appreciate all the guests that you bring onto your show and all the information and heart you bring on the airwaves. So keep doing what you're doing, brother. Thank you, brother. Yeah. So what I'd like to do is I'd like to share one now that I call Invigor. And Invigor is a combination of caraway, cardamom, sweet basil, two types of rosemary, peppermint, silver fern, frankincense. um mentally focusing uh oil that um i feel can bring a ritual into one's life and so it can be a

support of um giving a little bit boost of energy that um doesn't feel pharmacological in the same way coffee or caffeine does. Um, it's more gentle and subtle, but it's also, um, very invigorating and uplifting. And so in vigor, I put a few drops into the hands, rub the hands together. taking three deep inhalations

and then you can massage it into the scalp and into the back of the neck. And so this can be supportive for people when they're taking a break from their day and they're intending to get back in the ring, if you will, with an extra boost of energy. And vigor is just a real gentle, uplifting, herbaceous blend that can be supportive for the nervous system. So regarding stress, I have a number of different tinctures that I find to be really helpful. Our ultrasonic skullcap tincture, I find to be mildly euphoric, relaxing to the nervous system. And I find that it also slows down an overactive mind. In fact, it works so well at slowing down an overactive mind that when I use ultrasonic Tulsi, I typically use it before I go to bed because I find that it really slows down my mind in an overactive nervous system.

I won't use any right now because I want to be fully cognizant for our conversation. But our ultrasonic skull cap, our ultrasonic Tulsi tincture is an amazing one to use before bedtime. Beautiful. I've worked with the Kava, and it reminded me, when I played football at Mesa Community College, I think I was the only white guy in the defensive line,

and it was a bunch of giant Polynesian guys, and we would bus everywhere. So sometimes we'd bus 10 or 12 hours to play a game in Utah from out of Arizona. And they would confiscate the five-gallon Gatorade drums and make kava. So we'd be back there and just pounding it the whole way. Mouth and throat go numb. We're laughing. We crash. We sleep like babies in these tiny ass bus chairs. And I absolutely love that medicine. It's such a beautiful root and plant. And when I saw that you guys had it, I was like, oh, wow, this is incredible.

I wonder if it'll be similar. And a full tincture really is. Like, I mean, I get the throat. I get the funny feeling. I feel amazing. And I sleep really well. And I've even been including, I think before the podcast, I was talking about how I've included that in some of the volcano bags that I'll make with tobacco as a beautiful way to almost like a

nightcap where I'll just get to unwind. And I feel that come through really beautifully with only a few drops into the vaporizer. Wow. Yeah. The CO2-extracted kava kava is a very powerful aid. And the pure extract, it's over 60% kava lactones. And so it's very concentrated. And when you're comparing it to the traditional type of prepared tea that is used in the Polynesian culture, our extract is absolutely potent. Absolutely potent. And one little dab will do you is what I like to share with friends. And so I'll usually just take the head of a pin and I'll put a little dab in when it's the pure CO2 extracted kava. I think what I shared with you was one of our tincture formulations, maybe the kava euphoria or the kava chill.

It is the kava chill. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so kava chill is one that is really helpful for these times with the amount of stress that's going on in the field. And so the CO2-extracted kava is synergized with our moon cycle formulation, which is lavender, sweet marjoram, clary sage, rose geranium, bergamot, blue yarrow, and fennel. And these oils are very calming and relaxing to the nervous system. And this formulation should be avoided for women that are pregnant because of the nature of some of these oils. And the overall formulation of Kava Chill is really helpful in a similar way, maybe a little bit stronger than the Tulsi. So relaxing to the physical body, a mild to moderate level of euphoria,

and also a calm and a quietness over the mind. And so it can really help when we have overactive thoughts and are overly focused on the external world. This can really help to slow down those overactive thoughts. And really, I find that it helps me transition into a deeper quality of sleep with more ease and grace when I have a lot of excitement in my mind. Yeah, that's beautiful. And yeah, it certainly is something that is necessary now. So there is a difference. I wanted you to talk about the ultrasonic versus CO2 extraction. Talk about the process of how you gather these

because what I've heard in the past and even from some of the higher end essential oil communities, it's like, hey, this is fine to put on your wrist, but don't drink it because it can have X, Y, and Z in it. And that's not the case with your essential oils. So talk a bit about the process of how you get these incredible plants to a point where you can ingest them and vaporize them. Yeah. So maybe what I'll start off by saying is the plants that we're extracting, we're using a novel extraction process, which is our ultrasonic extraction process. And so what we're utilizing is ultrasonic vibration or sound waves at a high frequency. And the vibration will actually break down the cell walls of the plant material. And it pulls out the essential oil and the different

plant alkaloids in the different waxes and lipids. And what we do is we then filter the material. So we use water as a solvent and we produce a concentrated tea, essentially. And that's our first step. And then what we do is we filter out the tea from all the plant material and the waxes. And then what we'll do is we'll put it under vacuum and we'll distill at using very low temperatures. And so because we're utilizing these very low temperatures, my perception is that the energy and the intelligence of the plant is left intact in the final product. And so this is why you can really feel and experience our ultrasonic tinctures.

So what we do is we vacuum distill the tea until we get a concentrate. And so we're left with a potent concentrate. Then what we do is we take some of the hydrosol that we've distilled out, and we recombine it with the concentrate. And we also add in some structured water, and we add alcohol as a stabilizer to help deliver the plant material or the plant alkaloids into the body effectively. And so that is the result of our ultrasonic extraction process. And they're really potent. And it's really been a gift to be able to explore utilizing different plants in this way. Yeah, incredible. I've utilized them, and I'm sure this isn't how you would advertise it, but I've utilized some of the different products with plant medicines in the past.

You know, cosmic orgasm before a medicine can be incredibly powerful, an incredibly powerful way to open up a third eye and connect to source and just really clear out the energy. And I've wanted to get my hands on the Blue Lotus because of the fact that that is, in my understanding, an MAO inhibitor. And could it potentially extend and add like a gradual on-ramping to some of the faster medicines that might only work for 15 minutes? Wink, wink for those that are listening. And certainly can help ease us into a situation or into an experience that is rather rapid onset. Yeah, the Blue lotus is very powerful and the pharmacology of it, it's quite unique. When you put the blue lotus into your body, it is, I experience it as many different types of medicines. It works gabanergically. It works like a weak opioid.

It will feel somewhat like cannabis and hit some of the cannabinoid receptors. Really, we actually recently got a CO2 extract of blue lotus, which is very uncommon. And it's so concentrated. And a fun way that I've explored working with that CO2 extracted blue lotus is to vaporize it. And I mean, the flavor profile is like this caramel apple pie that just... I mean, you breathe it into your lungs and it's like you're breathing this natural perfume essence of just, um, sweet surrender and you breathe it out and there's just a calm peace and a light giddiness that comes from the, from the inside out. And, um, you know, the, the blueology is their relationship with the blue lotus which was their sacred plant medicine and opening up gateways to the divine

and traditionally the blue lotus was steeped within um different types of alcohols producing these um these very effervescent wines that they would consume. And so, yeah, Blue Lotus is definitely shrouded with mystery and allure. And the effects are, I find, to be somewhere between mild and moderate when utilized by themselves. And I have heard that they do combine well with different plant medicines to really accentuate uh the the flavor and the experience in in new and profound ways yeah the effervescent wine you're making me think of the immortality key that was a guy brian i think marusco something like that i forget his last name um and he was on with Graham Hancock on Joe Rogan's

podcast. I immediately got his book. It's a brilliant book. It really talked about the wine that was talked about throughout the Bible, all the way back to the Eleusinian mysteries in ancient Greece. And then prior to that in ancient Egypt was non-alcoholic wine. It was plant medicine wines. And they were combining some of these great plant teachers into a concoction that one would drink. And they had, of course, table wines and things like that that would help with digestion and just an overall everyday sense of euphoria, wine downtime, things of that nature. But they had some pretty psychedelic and powerful brews as well to grant people an experience of divine union. And one of the things they talked about was the body of the Christ was to be consumed, the Eucharist was to be consumed, and it was an

experience that will allow you to die and be reborn before you die so you could truly live. And the way that's described is such a, it just hits the nail on the head, you know, it's what Terrence McKenna spoke about in saying, you know, is there a wrong way to do psychedelics? He said, yeah, if you don't take enough, you know, if you're just, if you're just there to have a good time and you never really set ceremony around that. And of course the number is arbitrary. It doesn't really matter, but setting ceremony in the container around that experience so that you can go

within and you can have the transformative experience and at least dissolve for a moment and put yourself back together anew. I think that, that, uh, that excites me, you know, obviously I'm a fan, but I think it back to the origins of blue Lotus and some of these plants for many, many thousands of years being revered for these great teachers and the ability to open us up to higher dimensions of consciousness. It really can't be overstated. You know, they're,

they're incredible. And the fact that you're able to source these things and find them and then create them in a way to where now we have access, you know, we have access to so many great plants. When I came across Boban Sana too, I was like, oh, wow, this is actually something, you know, I was talking with Aubrey about and doing a dieta with, you know, it's one of the, one of these master plants from the Amazon. I haven't worked with it personally until recently, but I'd love for you to dive into bovinsana and some of the properties of that plant

because it's always been something that's been curious to me. It's a very beautiful plant. Yeah. So bovinsana, for people who are not aware of this plant, it's a plant utilized in the Amazon, really widely in Peru. And it's used in plant dieting and is oftentimes a admixture as part of ayahuasca. And my first time in working with bovine sauna by itself was utilizing our ultrasonic processes and our finished tincture product.

And the bovine sauna is the plant really, it's said to be very watery. And what some of the elders have taught me is that bovine sauna is considered to be mermaid medicine and it helps you to tap into the emotional body and to become more watery and be able to dissolve the hard edges of the emotional sensory system and to soften and to open and expand your heart i find the bovine sauna tincture to be, when I work with it, I find it to relax my nervous system. I find it to open my heart. And I find my emotions become more sensitive. And I don't mean this in a negative sense. I mean, I become more aware of my heart space. And I feel more connected to the people around me. And I also feel like it quiets my mind as well.

That's my experience of the Bhavan sauna. That's beautiful, brother. Yeah, sign me up. Are there any, I am pressed for time here. I got about five minutes, but I would love for you to talk about, um, you know, how you piece together some of these, these, um, these collaborations, you know, the, the, the different medicines together. I know you've mentioned a couple already prosperity for me was one of the

first ones you sent. It's something I use in the sauna all the time. It, it just, it, there's, there's a whole feel to it. And it absolutely, um, for me was one of the first ones you sent. It's something I use in the sauna all the time. There's a whole feel to it. When I'm sweating and I don't want to be in there, prosperity is something that keeps me grounded and elevated to the point where I can have my full sauna sessions and really make them enjoyable. But talk about some of the ways that you've used your intuition as well as your creativity to come up with some of these products and which ones might be your favorite? Yeah. So I have many favorites and it just depends on the mood or the intention. And I tend to embody lots of different personalities or ways of being and expressing myself. And so sometimes I create a formulation with the intention of, I want to utilize Blue Lotus. And so I'm going to cultivate a whole blend or a whole

array around creating a really beautiful Blue Lotus aromatic. Sometimes I set the intention around, there's so much tension around the heart, I want to create a blend that's going to open up the heart and create more connection between people. And so my intuitive process has evolved to the point where I am able to set an intention for what I want to cultivate and create. And based on that intention, I'll tune in with my oils. And so I will literally look at my wall of oils, and I'll just feel into which oils want to go into the blend. And so I use muscle testing. And so I ask, is there something

on the first, second, third? Okay, third. So there's something on the third shelf. Is it the first row, second? Okay, it's the second row. And then I'll tap into every oil on the shelf. And then it will tell me which oils I'm going to be blending with. So then I'll do that and I'll tap into whether it's five oils, seven oils, eight oils, again, by muscle testing. And then once I have my oils, I'll tap into what order they want to be blended in because it makes a huge difference in my experience. And then once I have the order, I'll ask the oils how much of each of them want to go into the blend. And so this is a different evolutionary phase where I exist now than when I had first started when I was utilizing more of a Western mindset and setting the intention for an energizing blend such as

invigor formulation and tapping into with my mind selecting which plants create certain types of properties and then combining those and then utilizing my nose and also my thought of what I want to create and formulate for therapeutic reasons. And so I would say that I marry the both of the techniques currently when I formulate, but more so utilizing the intuitive sense. And sometimes my mind jumps in with a great idea that I take action on. And it all feels powered by the heart. And so that's kind of my intuitive process and the way that I currently formulate blends. It's really a lot of fun to cultivate new synergy formulas. Something that I've been enjoying recently is helping to formulate blends for other people or brands or other individuals to share with their audiences or with their communities or to share for their weddings. This is a unique way that I can tap in and co-create with someone else's expression and energy and help them to bring their intention into a physical botanical concentrate

that can be shared amongst their community. And that has been another amazing way that I've been exploring working with the oils recently. One of the last ones that I did was a synergy formula with Paul Cech. And that was our heart harmony formulation. And his intention was to develop something that would clear negative energy, open up and expand the heart, and help to craft and create a uniform aroma for his

check clinics around the world. And so that was an exciting project and inspired by our dear friend Paul. Yeah, I got to check that out when he married our buddies, Alex and Sarah, who were on the podcast not long ago. Yeah, he had it on. I was like, oh, wow, what is that? And he was like, oh, this is the new formula that Dr. Nick and I came up with. And I was like, yo, this is insane. I got to get some. Just incredible, brother. Absolutely incredible. Well, I'm sorry we've been pressed for time, but thank you so much for coming on. Where can people find these amazing, amazing essential oils and learn more about you? Yeah, EssentialOilWizardry.com.

Beautiful, brother. We'll link to that in the show notes. It's been excellent having you on, Nick. Yeah, you too, Kyle. Thank you for the opportunity. And thanks to everyone who's tuned in to this podcast. I hope that you find it inspiring. And yeah, I'm very grateful for you, Kyle. Grateful for you, brother. All right, Nick, take care. Thank you.