Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #213 Dr Kirk Parsley

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

Dr. Kirk Parsley, is back y’all! This time we talk about his Twitter suspension and all that includes. Metaphysical connection and some of his plant medicine experiences. He’s a wellspring of knowledge and an incredible human. Please go support his sleep aid products at his website(link below).   Connect with Dr Kirk:   Website: docparsley.com  Instagram: @kirkparlsey  Facebook: Doc Parsley  Twitter: SUSPENDED  YouTube: Doc Parsley  Sponsors:   Higher Dose “Get high naturally!” Go over to their site… www.higherdose.com, check out what these mad scientists have cooked up and get their portable Infrared Sauna or PEMF Mat. Use code word “KKP75” to get $75 off your order. Go powerful women!! EightSleep Pod Pro Fully optimize your sleep with their wide range of programmable temps by going to www.eightsleep.com/KKP  and use code “KKP” for $150 off the pad or mattress. Upgraded Formulas from our boy Barton Scott!! Get your mineral levels figured out and head to www.upgradedformulas.com, punch in “KKP15” at checkout and get 15% off your order including the hair mineral test! Cymbiotika Head to Cymbiotika’s site(link below) and find out for yourself the power of his incredible medicines. Also use the codeword “KYLE15” at checkout to save 15% on all orders including subscriptions. Accumulate an additional 5% off for each additional product ordered up to five! cymbiotika.com  Connect with Kyle:   Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com  Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

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with this podcast, we have our, let's see, I'm right now, I'm doing this ahead of time, right now, fit for service, Austin, Texas is going down. And it's funny because I am talking about this before the event has started. As you're listening to this, the event is going on. And perhaps if you're listening to this later in the game, which many people do, the event has already passed. That said, I'm really looking forward to this one. It has been really cool planning it out with Aubrey and Godsey and Caitlin and Vailana and the crew. Charles Eisenstein is coming for this one. I'm going to try to get him on this podcast as I have in the past. Well, I haven't had him on yet, but I've been trying to get him on in the past, and I would love to get him face-to-face while he's in town. He will be speaking at our event,

which is, I'm just beyond thrilled for that. Drew Satsang, I've been on his podcast. He's met on Aubrey's. He's coming on for sure. So a couple of great guests in the near future. I think we're releasing two this week. So this is a Monday, Friday, we should have Justin Rezvani. And what's cool about releasing these two in the same week, now I recorded these near each other, and as life would synchronistically serve these up, Dr. Kirk Parsley was kicked off the internet, was banned on Twitter. And this is a topic of conversation that has become a very important one. The United States government has recently stated they're going to push for a universal ban across platforms

if you've been banned on one. So as we dive into this part of the conversation, you know, with Dr. Kirk Parsley, who's been a guest on, I think, two or three times before, is a medical doctor, practicing medical doctor, was a Navy SEAL and a medical doctor for the Navy SEALs and now practices medicine with the public and a lot of high profile people. Just has a wealth of knowledge. We dive into why he got an indefinite suspension from Twitter, amongst other things, and really the nature of reality that we're in right now.

And, you know, I've had plenty of MDs on this podcast before, but few, I mean, I shouldn't say that it's hard to stack like, well, who's the best MD you've ever had? That kind of shit. But really when I think of people who are qualified in all ways, tell me the list of things that you've done. I would say it's hard to compete with Navy SEALs for a number of reasons. Number one, if this show's basic core is around physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual optimization, you could say what you want spiritually, but

physically, mentally, and emotionally, Navy SEALs understand quite a bit. And you could argue, well, yeah, a lot of those guys have some emotional stuff they got to work on when they get out. And hey, I'm not going to argue that. I have worked with a lot of them. A lot of them are getting into plant medicines and different forms of therapy that is cutting edge, you know, because, you know, the system that they've been a part of has not served them well. That's, and we've had guys like Jesse Gould on who works not specifically with the Navy SEALs or, or, you know, special ops guys, but with men and women from, from our military veterans that, that come out and, and you could argue all, uh, veterans could use some type of expansion, uh, after they leave and, and, and hang it up. And, uh, with that, you know, it's nice to know that people like Jesse Gould and Heroic Hearts exist. They were just out

at Lundy Farms. I'm not even sure I can talk about that, but they were just out with, I think I can, they were just out with my good buddy, Craig Nuremberg, and doing some fantastic work, which you guys will get to hear more about in the future. But all that to say, when I think of Dr. Kirk Parsley, I think of somebody as one of the most qualified people on the planet to discuss the topics that we're about to discuss today. Somebody who understands health from the inside out. I mean, so much of the head scratcherness of the last 18 months has been, if anyone gives a shit about our health and wellness, why is no one discussing our health and wellness? Why hasn't anyone other than people like me and other meatheads or health and wellness professionals discussing the need for vitamin D3, for zinc, for things like quercetin that help

drive zinc into the cell, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. We dive into those things on this podcast. Both of those work to upregulate the intake of zinc from outside the cell to within the cell, which is powerful as an antiviral antibacterial. And that's a really important thing. Pharmaceutically, we've had those things for a long time. They're off patent now, meaning no big return on investment. And of course, if you want to figure this stuff out, just follow the money. I mean, this is not complicated math to understand why something like that might be swept under the rug and prevented from the masses. Much of this has gone on, not just in the censorship of ideas or the censorship of what they would call misinformation, which we dive into on the podcast,

but the censorship of drugs that actually work to where there is no need to debate a shot or not. There's a terrific meme. I got to pull it up here. Let me see if I got this guy. So there's a meme that my buddy sent me in a group that said, in one box on the top, are vaccines effective? If you go left, it says, yes. Okay. Vaccines are effective. Then on the bottom, then vaccine passports are pointless. Are vaccines effective? Yes. Then vaccine passports are pointless. On the other side of that, are vaccines effective? No. Then vaccine passports are pointless. And it's comical because a year ago, people were saying, oh, it'll never come to that. It's not going to come to vaccine passports. And it's like, well, here we are. Millions are protesting in France. And just as we speculated, it has very

little to do with your ability to travel and everything to do with control. It has everything to do with limiting your ability to do anything in the world. Meaning you want to go to the post office, vaccine passport. You want to go shopping, vaccine passport. You want to go shopping? Vaccine passport. You want to go to the movies with your family? Vaccine passport. Anything you can think of as a normal day-to-day part of your life will be severely limited without that passport. And although we have heard already, oh, we're not going to do that here, at least in the United States. It's happening all over the world right now. And I know I've got a lot of listeners in other countries. All over Europe, people are protesting, millions of people. Spain, Ireland, you name it. And of course, mainstream media is not showing any of this, but

we dive into health on this show. Not just on this one in particular, but certainly with Dr. Kirk Parsley, who has been talking about health for a very long time. Not pharmaceuticals, not this, not that. He obviously has a wealth of knowledge and his toolbox is extensive, but Dr. Kirk understands sleep perhaps better than most MDs. And we dive into that. We dive into a lot of great stuff. And I just feel honored to have access to a guy like Dr. Kirk Parsley,

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Kyle 15 at checkout. And without further ado, my man, Dr. Kirk Parsley. Has anybody ever given you shit other than like some Karen? I mean, like everybody who's ever talked to me about a mask has been white woman in her sixties, you know, fifties or sixties. I had an old man and it was Whole Foods downtown. And I normally should.

That's where I always got it. It was downtown on Whole Foods. I'm normally at either Bee Cave bee cave one or uh william cannon and you know when it started we were i think three weeks three weeks into it so it was march we were out at um i was camping with my son and they kicked us out of the state park and i was like oh all right uh this is weird you know clearly they're taking it seriously. But I never had fear around it because of my experience with plant medicine. There's nothing to fear in fucking nature if you're healthy.

Right. And it's seriously the right word, though. I mean, are they taking it seriously? Are they taking it zealously? Yeah, we're going to rabbit hole this for sure. But at the time we leave, I come back, we go shopping, Tasha's second trimester. So she's fucking massive baby bump. And we're walking, we're probably the only people at William Cannon Whole Foods walking around with no masks on and see Godsey or somebody give him a big hug. And people

are like, oh my God, they're hugging. And it's early on, but it's like, what's going on here? Like I still didn't fully grasp it. But at some point when masks became mandatory, it was right around when they decided to, before it was any kid didn't have to wear masks. And it was like, no, only two and under don't have to wear masks. Right. Which is more bullshit. None of it makes sense. But at that point, we were at a... I have no idea how you could...

I don't have any idea how you could even try to keep a mask on a three or four-year-old kid. I see it on airplanes. It's unfortunate. It's amazing. Yeah, we were at the uh downtown one and this old guy saw a bear without a mask on and he's you know he was five at the time and just started going off and he was old enough that like if i if i blew on him hard enough he would probably break a bone so i was like i don't know like bears going up and down the escalator

there and um the guy starts yelling at me and pointing his finger like you i don't know, like bears going up and down the escalator there. And the guy starts yelling at me and pointing his finger like you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I can't even understand him from it with his mask on, but I know what he's saying. And I'm like, huh? And then he points at my son and he points back to me and he's shaking his head. No. And he, and I, and I look at him and I say, I pull my mask down and I say, you don't say a word to my kid like that. And he just shook his head and walked off. Yeah. But it was like, dude, I'm going to draw the line right there to make this real simple.

You don't say a fucking word to him. Yeah. With your nonsense. Isn't it amazing how much of the population now feels entitled to parent your kids and like tell your kids what to believe and what to do. And like, that's getting scary, man. I mean. Somebody. Fortunately fortunately my kids

are older now like all the adults but man think for themselves I'd be going crazy if my kids were young especially if you know

any of my kids were in regular school right and I really feel for people who have kids in public school and you know

do you have three now just two we got a bear just turned six and then wolf just turned one on fourth of july okay a little patriot baby but um yeah the the the kids thing is probably one of the most concerning and for for a number of reasons but what this guy had said was most people who lived shitty lives that had no level of importance whatsoever,

the masses, right? General population. Sorry, general population. And I'm not saying sorry to my listeners because most of you do not. And just because you work a shitty job does not mean that you have a shitty life. I've worked plenty of shitty jobs and worked through them on a bigger and better things. But people who don't have much going for them, now they have an importance. And the importance is the world at large. And if they do their part by being a good citizen and helping others find the way and find the light,

then they can fix the world's issues, right? So it gives them an identity that allows them to become in their own way someone that's important that helps to police others and bring about the health of humanity through an injection i'm with you down to the point of the motivation i don't believe these people actually think they're creating a better world i think these people are just really narciss people actually think they're creating a better world. I think these people are just really narcissistic. I think they're completely abused by their own ego. And this is all, like you're saying, their self-importance. And so anything that they can do. And now these days, being a victim is being self-important. And the more obscure the victim category is,

the more important you are. And then if, yeah, and if you can identify with being a victim, well, if you're the victim, then you're the oppressed, which means you're the resistance. But obviously the people with the most power right now is that category. You can't be the resistance and the force,

which they are, right? They are the man that they're resisting, right? Yeah. That burning man saying we're requiring vaccinations. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like those people are, they're doing all of this to validate themselves. I don't really think that they have this utopian vision.

I don't think they know what that looks like because they don't even all agree with each other. They just agree against the people who aren't seeing the world through this fear lens that they're seeing it through. So the end result's the same, but I think the motivation's a little different. I think it's completely self-serving narcissism.

And because they feel unimportant, because they feel marginalized, because their parents were cowards and didn't raise them with any kind of rigor that allowed them to overcome obstacles and have some self-determination and discipline and desire. I think that's what we're the most absent of as a culture. I mean, ask a 25-year-old what do they want?

What do they want to do with their life? They want to be rich, right? Like, I want to be really rich and powerful. Like, no, but what do you want to do? Oh, I don't care. Like want to be really rich and powerful. Like, no, but what do you want to do? Oh, I don't care. Like, whatever makes me rich and powerful. Like, I don't think that's an ambition, man. That's like, that's a hope, you know?

Yeah. I don't know. What are you going to win the lotto? It's strange, man. It's strange. And again, the end result is they got with, they wanted, they became who they wanted to be, this ego-driven sense of like, I'm really important now.

I'm rich and I'm powerful and I'm important. But I didn't do anything to help anybody to get here. Like, it's one thing to be popular and powerful because you're a really helpful person, right? It's like people flock to you and they want advice from you and they want resources from you because you do amazing things for people and you transform people's lives. You help people get out of these really bad situations or like whatever it is. Yeah, that person should be powerful in that sense. But those people are never going to,

like, could you imagine tony robbins getting up in your face and telling you what you should believe about any of this stuff like no way like he's gonna he's getting in people's faces and saying you don't have to fall in line you're not if you're not a follower become a leader and do what's right for you right yeah it's like you know um i don't know it it it's a it's a vast cultural spread, man. And it's getting scarier, man. I was having a conversation this morning with a buddy of mine who's out here from SEAL teams. And I said, you know, you could really make the case that we're already a socialist country, right?

And instead of them coming in and sort of just cracking down and taking all of our money, they've just printed all this monopoly money that's putting us in debt. So they really took our money before we even got it, right? Obviously, there's a party line that has to be carried, and you get ostracized or worse, arrested, whatever, for not carrying censored bans, like banned off of social media. Now they're talking about they've given the DNC power to read people's texts and censor texts that have misinformation about the vaccine. Emails are next. If they're not, are you doing email, right? Well, they've already had the, for decades, for decades, for at least 10 years,

they've been able to look at our phones, do all that stuff. Oh, yeah. They were doing that. When I was in the SEAL teams, one of my good friends went to NSA and he came back. He was like, oh my God.

Oh my God. we are so screwed like there is there is zero privacy in the country and and how it's open now right that's the difference yeah what's transpired in this last week is that it's it's in they're openly stating the fact that hey we're going to actually police this right and well before before they were before they were reading it and maybe it made you a target of investigation or something, but now I send you a text and they edit that. They censor my text. They may not send it at all.

They may block me from being able to text you. They may, I don't know if they're going in there and rewriting it or putting one of those little warnings that this is potential misinformation. Click here and read what Fauci has to say about this. Wait, that's not what Fauci says. Click here. You know, so like that's scary.

And, you know, there's all this coming out about openly spying on journalists, you know, who don't carry the party line. And military leadership, like the political branch of the military leadership, the Pentagon guys, openly supporting all of this. It's tyranny, all right? It's tyrannical behavior to run around and tell people they have to wear something on their face, they have to get a vaccine, they have to do this, they have to do this.

Like, no, I didn't, you weren't elected to office because you're better and smarter than me. Like, you were elected to office because you wanted to be the person representing us and we elected you and now you represent us. You don't, we didn't elect you to tell us what to do. That doesn't make any sense. That's not how the country was designed.

And most of the people that are making the decisions are not elected officials. Yeah, it's the administrative government that's the real problem. Yeah, CDC, people like that, the ones that are, you know. And even the intelligent agencies now, right? Like DOJ, all of that. I mean, all those guys are getting caught doing some pretty unscrupulous stuff. And they just go in front of Congress and lie. And Congress can prove that they lie.

Nothing happens, right? Like they just tell a blatant lie. Well, we have the documents to prove that was a lie. Did you see the creepy line? The documentary, The Creepy Line? No. It's it's awesome it's all about google but same exact shit they go there they've been caught red-handed stealing uh their their driverless cars that i used to be around constantly and uh where i lived in the bay area would drive up and down streets sometimes not not the driverless cars, sometimes just the Google or Earth cars. Yeah.

But both of them would drive down through suburbs and different areas, apartment complexes, and they would fucking grab anyone's information that had a non-locked Wi-Fi. And this was proven in court. They got a slap on the wrist. They own whoever would police them.

Right. You know? And that's really the issue and and i know that clears up a lot i never thought of that yeah yeah i've i've been i've been so confused as to why billionaires would be in bed with a socialist regime it's like why would you want socialism if you're if you're billionaire, this capitalism thing obviously worked out pretty well for you. Like, why would you want to shift? Yeah, it's, it's weird to me, man. It's really weird to me. I, I, I can't make sense of it. The vaccine was the most obvious thing, right? And like, and that's what, that's what I got

suspended. Well, they said suspended, but I've been suspended for like four or five months. Indefinitely. Yeah. And they never sent me an email or anything. So I got suspended from Twitter. I don't know why. I mean, I literally, I hate the misuse of that word, so be careful not to overspeak it. But I probably post something twice a month.

During COVID, that was my most active posting thing because that was the first time in my life that the major news cycle was something I had expertise in. I'm not a politician. I don't know anything about political science. I'm not especially smart about economics. So most of the stuff that's used in the news, I don't know smart about economics. So most of the stuff that's used in the news, I don't know anything about it.

And I just have to listen to what different people are telling me. And if it's important enough, I do my own research. Otherwise, I just kind of go, that's not all important. I kind of feel like it's this. But the medicine, I know what viruses are. I know how vaccines work. I know how masks work. I know I'm a medical are. I know how vaccines work. I know how masks work. I know,

like, you know, I'm a medical doctor. I understand this. And the misinformation was so apparent so quickly. And then one of the things that the news is, the media has been doing my entire lifetime is they never give a denominator, right? Like they'll say, you know, 7,000 new cases of COVID. Wow. I mean, I guess that sounds like a lot. Like how many did we have yesterday? And they just did it. I think in California, they're like redoing the mask mandate again because they were up from like 11,000 cases to 23,000 cases or something. I'm like, oh, it seems big, right? Double. But okay, at their peak, they cases to 23,000 cases or something. I'm like, oh, it seems big, right?

Double. But okay, at their peak, they were almost 300,000 cases a day. So you're still not even 10% of that. So why are you really doing this again? You know? And I made the case at the beginning. I'm like, the death ticker, you know, is a fear tactic. Like, you know, I know a color operation when I see one. Like know, is a fear tactic. Like, you know, I know a color operation when I see one.

Like, this is a fear tactic. I said in one of my first videos on Instagram, I was like, if you got out of bed every day and the news was carrying everyone in America who had died of a car crash, right, and they were doing the humanitarian story about him, how it was a 75-year-old grandmother on her way to her five-year-old grandson's birthday and some distracted driver was texting and killed her.

And that's all you think about. How often would you drive? Like how confident would you be about driving? What would that do to people's willingness to drive and people's fear in driving, right? Americans aren't different people than they were a year ago. The reason there's 1,500 incidents in federal aircraft now, you know, it's federally managed aircraft, right?

The reason there's 1,500 of those this year already in six months, and there's usually about 100 per year, that's because of fear, right? Like it's fear and anger. So there's half the crowd being fearful that I'm going to get COVID from you if you don't wear a mask.

And then there's half the crowd feeling fearful that I'm giving up all my rights and succumbing to tyranny. And so both people are like each other's throat. And so I was, from the very beginning, just trying to like, I wasn't saying COVID wasn't real. I wasn't saying there's no chance you have to worry about it. I was just like, let's be rational about it. And then when they came up with the mask, my initial, like, immediately, right?

I mean, it didn't, it was a millisecond for me that I was like, that won't work. Like, you know, I've used masks. Like, I've worked in hospitals. You understand what they're for. I understand, like, how is that possible? And so I, and then, you know, there's all this hype about the N95. And I'm like, oh, okay, maybe these N95s are special. So I go and I look at the engineering specs of an N95 mask.

I do the math. If you blew the virus up to the size of a marble, the smallest hole in the mask would be as big around as those two doors. So a billion of these and a billion, you know, a thousand of these, like what are you stopping, right? And they can't study this. Like they're doing things with smoke and whatever

and having people cough on dishes and all this other stuff. You can't study this and you're not studying it in a real environment. Anytime anybody else does a study and it's just like this completely clinical made up thing that doesn't exist anywhere. Everybody just completely destroys it. It's poopoo.

Like that doesn't make any sense. Like there's so many confounding variables. You aren't looking at this. You're not looking, you're not looking at the fact that people are, you know, wearing the same mask every day, you know, five times a day. You're not looking at the fact that people are touching their face, putting these things on and off. You're not looking at the fact that people are always pulling face, putting these things on and off. You're not looking at the fact that people are always pulling them down and talking.

And you're only looking at people who get sick, and you just keep throwing out the window that, okay, this dastardly man who didn't wear a mask maybe gave COVID to somebody else, but he didn't give COVID to 600 other people that he interacted with. But you never get the denominator. It's just like this one example, this one example. It's always fear. to somebody else, but he didn't give COVID to 600 other people that he interacted with, you know? But you never get the denominator. It's just like this one example, this one example. It's always fear.

So I was just fighting against that. It was bullying to me. And like bullying has always gotten under my skin since I was a little kid. I used to just get in fights. If somebody was getting bullied, I just jumped in there. Like, I didn't care if I could hate the guy who's getting bullied. I think he's a loser.

But like, no, we're not, we're not bullying. Like nobody's bullying anybody. And it just felt like bullying to me. And now I've gotten the ultimate bully, right? And everything that I posted on Twitter, I mean, all of these, I was posting things from the news. It's like, oh, here's a CDC study and here's what it means. So, you know, don't get too wrapped around the axle because this is what it really means

and it's being portrayed this way, but these are the facts. And I did that maybe a dozen times and that's it. Like I got suspended from Twitter indefinitely. I had like a little over 10,000 followers. I have zero now. Like everything's wiped off. And I can't even go in and do anything to the account. Like I couldn go and i can't go in there and post i can't go in there and

i couldn't even take tweets down if i thought they were offensive i can't do anything like i'm totally locked out of the account um like when in history have the censors been there on the good side right like just name the time anywhere in the history of man where the people censoring what turned out to be the good guys. It's not possible. And really, no matter who you voted for, and this is what's funny, is that a certain group of people won't see this as just a fucking glaring red flag. But when you take the president down from Twitter, the most- The sitting president.

Yeah. Active. Not fucking after the fact. While- The sitting president. Yeah. Active. Not fucking after the fact, like while he's in office. Yeah. That to me is like the, wait a minute, alarms are going off. Hold on. Tell me how you're not a government actor in that case, right? Media aren't allowed to be activists.

They aren't allowed to be government actors. That's the reason they have the protections they do. Forget 230, just like anybody who's supposed to be objective like that. You're protected to say and given the permission to say what you want to say over airways because you're not an activist. If you're an activist, what are we listening to? Pure propaganda, right? And so they censored the president of the United States, took away his platform to speak to the people, right? Imagine the television stations just saying, well, they kind of did, right? Just quit covering his speeches. That's government action. I just read this morning or yesterday, I can't remember the exact organization,

but if someone on the Democratic side is asking, I can't remember who they're they're asking one of the social media companies is it the Twitter or Facebook I think they were asking Facebook to actively prevent this type of information going out and that basically

if it's if it's not what Fauci says then it's not just a warning like you just completely disallow it and you don't let and you don't let that be posted. So the Democratic Party, as a government organization,

can't stop you from communicating, but they use people who can. There's just an extension of the government at that point. That's tyranny. But similar to uh biden saying we're not going to enforce a vaccine passport but we will allow corporations to make their own decisions around it right you could you'll you'll just be a leper in society and not be able to participate with everybody else um you know because um because you're you're a Nazi or you're a white supremacist, you're a white nationalist, extremist, whatever.

Flat earther. Yeah, just because you want a few questions asked. You want a few questions answered before you... And when there's contradictions, one of my favorite lines from Atlas Shrugged is contradictions don't exist. If you find one, check your premises. Like something, one of your premises is off. And so when we're presented with information that doesn't make sense to us and it's contrary to everything we've always thought, you need to answer some questions.

But they won't. It's like, no, shut up and do it. Like Fauci says to do it or, you know, whatever, you know, whatever the issue is, whether it's medical, whatever. I think the, I think the vaccine is the most egregious thing to me. Like that one generally makes me fearful because like, I'm not a brilliant doctor because I understand this. Most people with like,

who took a college biology class would understand that if you've had the vaccine or if you've had the infection or if you've been infected with COVID, you have natural immunity that's more robust than a vaccine. And they're still trying to force people to take the vaccine who have already had the virus.

Never in the history of medicine have we done that. There's no indication for that. In fact, it's very likely that that's what's leading to the bad vaccine outcomes, that you're like 10 times more likely to have these these bad outcomes from your you know bad reactions or some cases people are dying these are almost exclusively people like people who have really severe action reactions people who uh almost exclusively people who have had the virus already and of course a lot of people don't even know that they've had the virus right so if you don't know you've had asymptomatic? So if you don't know you've had the virus- 60% are asymptomatic, right?

Right, so if you don't know you've had the virus and you have to get a vaccine and having had the virus makes the vaccine more risky and the vaccine already hasn't been tested long-term and you have some questions about that and that makes you an anti-vax flatterer, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. That makes me rational.

And the fact that you want to answer my questions makes you irrational. If we can't have a discussion about it, then I'm not doing it. Even if I were 70 and frail, I would probably wait a while. I'd wait for some proof. Everybody's so amazed and spun up about, oh, this fastest development of any vaccine in history and this is a miracle of science. Like, no, you've always been able to develop a vaccine in a weekend. Like, it's not, like, that's not the complicated part.

The complicated part and the time commitment is the testing for safety. And you start with animals, right? And like a subset of animals. And you start with certain dosages and you figure out the dosages. And then you start to look at the long-term health of the animals. And then you can move up to like more sophisticated, more complex animals. And then you get into human trials and it's like healthy adults.

And then you get long-term data on them. And then you can go a little older or a little younger and you work that back. And then you get long-term data on them and then you can go a little older or a little younger and you work that back and it takes a decade to do. And we're like, nope, don't need any of that. This is totally safe. I promise. We're really, really sure. We created it on a computer and everything. I've listened and it's, and, you know, I've, I've listened to, I was listening to Peter Atiyah's podcast probably a year ago and before the vaccine was even out and they were talking about the development of the vaccine and that's what this guy did. I mean, and, you know, Peter Atiyah's guests are always the, you know, the creme de la creme, like super achieved academician, professor, doctor.

And he was a virologist and he had done tons of work on vaccines. And he was even saying, you know, I'd like to watch it for three or four years before I take it. And he was like 60 or something, you know, he's like, you know, I'm healthy. I'm in good shape. I don't have any comorbidities. Like I'm like, I would, like if it came out today, I know, I'm healthy. I'm in good shape. I don't have any comorbidities. Like, if it came out today, I'd probably wait three, four years before I'd be willing to take it. But I think I'd be safe for that. Like, it's a risk-to-reward ratio, right? Your risk assessment. You know, like, no one does a risk assessment anymore.

Like, oh, there's danger. Oh, avoid that. Like, no, I'm pretty sure that's where all the juice is. Like, you got to go towards the danger zone most of the time right and you just have to be calculated about it so it's it's concerning and then the second uh you know the second part of that so one they're they're they're forcing the vaccine on people who have already had the virus and know they already had the virus and already have superior immunity to what the vaccine is going to give them,

that's one problem, right? That's a big red flag for me. Nobody has explained that. And that's questions been asked plenty of times. No one has explained that. No one's even attempted to explain that. Every time the question gets asked, it gets 100% dodged.

And then the other one is you're trying to give this to kids and healthy adults. And if you're under 20, your risk of dying of COVID is actually less than your risk of getting struck by lightning. Nobody's worried about getting struck by lightning. So as a doctor, if you came to see me and you said, hey, I'm really concerned about cancer. And I said, do you have any symptoms? And you're like, no, but I know some people with cancer. My dad had cancer.

I'm really worried about cancer. And I go, you're totally healthy. And you're like, but I really want some cancer treatment. And I start, you're totally healthy. And you're like, but I really want some cancer treatment. And I start giving you chemotherapy just in case you have some cancer that we haven't found. I would go to jail for that. I would lose my medical license and almost certainly end up doing like with criminal charges against me. But that's exactly what we're doing to young kids. Their risk of death rounds to zero, like really, really low, right? Under 20, I think it's like 0.008 or something, right? So not even a hundredth of a percent. So they have no functional risk of this disease, and you're giving them a vaccine, which is not even FDA approved, which is an experimental treatment. How is that? Like that is against the Hippocratic oath. That

is exactly what you're taught not to do. Every time I give you, if I were going to give you any medication, we would talk about, hey, there's a risk to this medication and there's rewards to this medication. There's risks to not taking the medications and there's a risk to this medication and there's rewards to this medication. There's risks to not taking the medications and there's some rewards to not taking the medication. And let's talk about it. And let's figure out where you fall out on this Venn diagram. Where is this for you?

I have no idea how that isn't the expected approach. And the fact that people like me are just being run over and squashed and you know that organization um frontline doctors you know just rogan just had him on with brett weinstein one of the guys from there and uh amazon web service just wiped them out like just took their website away in 24 hours. I clicked on it. You could buy ivermectin there, right? With like an online consultation.

Well, yeah, but the worst part is there. So I went to the lecture, the woman who's a lawyer, she's a lawyer and a doctor and she was one of the speakers. And I went to a lecture that she did out here in Austin and completely rational. Like everything that she's saying, it's kind of a lot, very similar to what I'm saying. And she was

arrested, put in jail with no charges, no call to a lawyer for four days for prescribing ivermectin as a physician. Now, the way the law usually works is I have a medical license, I have a medical degree, I have a medical license, and I have a DEA number that allows me to prescribe controlled substances and other things, like sort of regulated medications.

I can prescribe those medications for any reason I want to, right? I'm protected by that because I have a medical degree and I have a medical license. They believe that they believe in my ability to make a decision about, well, this is an awfully well use, but I think this makes sense and we discuss it and I can do that. Well, now it's a crime to do that. I had patients out here in Austin that got COVID. She wasn't going to die. It's a husband and wife.

She was really sick. I mean, she wasn't going to die. She was healthy. And I was like, well, I'll give you some ivermectin. I'll give you a Z-Pak and, you know, and give you some zinc and vitamin D3 and like all the stuff, you know, it was just like three day course of all this and you're done. And she was, next day she's a hundred percent running around like, yeah, I feel fine. It took me, I'm going to say about two and a half hours to get ivermectin for her. I'm sorry, hydrochlorothiazide, not hydroxychloroquine.

I was about to bring up hydroxychloroquine because that was kind of the known thing prior to ivermectin. My head's going all over the place. Yeah, so that was before we knew the power of ivermectin. This was super early in COVID. And the hydroxychloroquine, it took me two and a half hours to get it. And when I was in the SEAL teams, they used to give us a bucket of that stuff

and just take this anytime you're going to Southeast Asia. Take it a week before, take it while you're there. It was a malaria prophylactic. Really safe malaria prophylactic, right? And it's been, I want to say it's been on the world market for almost 100 years, like 80-something years. And it's been in America for 60-some-odd years. And 90% of the planet, you can just walk into a store and buy it.

You don't need a prescription for it. It's that safe. They give it to nursing mothers. They give it to little kids. Because when you live in a malaria-endemic area, it's like you take this pill once a week and you get rid of one of the major causes of death in your area. And over 80 years of doing this

in underdeveloped countries, no one's come up with any problems about it. But now all of a sudden it's a problem. I mean, these things are red flags to me. It's like there's something behind that. And I'm not smart enough to know what it is. I don't understand the government well enough to understand what are the political games going on.

All I can say is that this isn't the way things are supposed to be going, right? That there is motivation behind all of these things that have nothing to do with health. Because if they did, we would know that we're risking people's health. And we do understand that. Like you don't have to be a super smart person to figure that out. Like you can be moderately educated person

and go, that seemed kind of dangerous. And if you have a medical degree, you damn well know that that's the wrong thing to do. But yet if I give somebody a vaccine they don't need, I'm celebrated. If I give them a pill they do need, I go to do. But yet, if I give somebody a vaccine they don't need, I'm celebrated. If I give them a pill they do need, I go to jail. Very concerning. I got hydroxychloroquine just to have on hand with Z-Pak and it was like, cool, I'll hold on to this, that kind of thing. And all of us are super healthy. I don't know that we've had it or not based on the testing, but we got fucking annihilated Christmas of 2020,

which was kind of right before it became big. But there's some talk that it had been going around from November of 2020. So it does line up. And I think October. I think we had a case in October that's been proven, like late October was the first case. And that makes sense.

You know, like Christmas Day is the only Christmas ever where I had late October was the first case. And that, that makes sense. You know, like Christmas day is the only Christmas ever where I had to lie down the entire time. I didn't open a single present. I looked over to watch my son open his presents. It fucked me up legitimately. You know, I had worn myself out prior to that. It was running a 5k with no training and the cold,

that kind of shit. So, you know, I laid the foundation environmentally for something to kick my ass and it did. But I needed no medication. Eight days, changing the sheets and my son sweat a lot too at night. He was fine during the day, but sweat a lot at night. And we were gold. Tosh had like a three-day thing. She took some Tamiflu. She was fine. That's what I had too, was the sweats, man.

Like sweats and muscle cramps. Yeah. I think I thought of that as like combo almost. Like my body is purifying itself. And I've never been sick where I felt like this is a greater context. Right. But now when I look in hindsight, it's like there's no question. Like we were to get sick and likely while Tasha's pregnant,

that's getting into the body and we're adapting to that ahead of time. So when these kids come out, everyone's on the same page, they've been upgraded. But I've been still holding onto that hydroxychloroquine because it seemingly overnight became the thing to get and the thing you couldn't get. And they started going after doctors who were giving it out.

And then they basically made it impossible to get because pharmacists weren't going to be able to dole it out. Right. And that was the regulatory control on me. It was the pharmacy wouldn't prescribe it. Yeah, they're like, sorry, what do you want this for? Unless I lied about it. And I'm not going to lie, right? Yeah.

I'm not going to let you make a liar out of me. Now you have power over me. Like, I'm going to argue with you based on the merits of your argument. But their hands are tied. And, you know, some pharmacists were willing to take the risk. At least one pharmacist was willing to take the risk. Or he didn't know. At that point.

He wasn't aware of the regulations or whatever it was. But I was able to get it. And I think there's nothing wrong with having an emergency stash of that. For someone like you, it's probably very unlikely to get used, right? Because you are robustly healthy and you have a good immune system. If you got worn down, you would probably wait till you were like on death's door before you took it and it doesn't really work that well then like it works when you kind of first get it so like when you have a 70 year old kind of frail person get it you just like here it's not going to hurt you there's a real good chance it

might help you as soon as the symptoms start right and the and the and the rules in the hospital are that until until somebody's about to die you don't give them these things. Like you just wait and wait and wait and wait it out, wait it out, wait it out. Like why? I'm not really sure. And then they started giving vaccines to all these people in the hospitals who are struggling along thinking that's going to help those people just flat out die. A lot of those people just die because that can cause this hyperimmune response. And when you're sick,

it's not the virus that makes you feel sick. It's your immune response to that virus that makes you feel sick, right? And you can just imagine that sick feeling, that weak feeling, that pain, aching, kind of disorienting feeling that you get when you have a really bad flu or something. Inject me with something

that's going to make that 10 times worse. You know, I'm going to be suffering, but a seven-year-old is going to die, right? With that kind of immune response. You know, it's really, I mean, getting older just really means you have fewer resources, right? You're less capable of repair

and you have fewer resources to do it with. And so you're taking people who can't handle as big of an insult and have fewer resources to recover from the insult you're giving them. Instead of just going here, right away, take this. It might do nothing for you,

but there's some pretty good evidence to suggest that it will do great things for you. Now that Ivermectin is the same way. You take it really early, works great. You take it once a week, you just don't get COVID, right? They did a study with 1,200 healthcare providers. They gave 800 of them ivermectin one day a week, and they gave 400 of them nothing, the control group.

And they worked in the hospitals with COVID. And out of the 400 that didn't take anything, I want to say like 56, 57% of them got COVID. Not a single person out of the 800 got it. Not one. Zero cases with taking Avramine. Like you can't say that's not a causal. I mean, technically, of course, you can't. Like statistically, you can't say it's causal.

But I mean, that's a pretty hard case to make. If we did that with anything else in your life, if you, you know, you would go, well, yeah, I'm going to take that, right? Because there's no, there's no danger to it, right? You know, if, you know, 50% of your friends had car crashes and they were doing something when they were driving and then all your other friends who don't do that didn't have any car crashes, you would say, I'm going to drive like half. I'm going to do like, is it possibly chance?

It is, but really, really, really low odds. If you understand statistics, you can measure that power and go, it's almost impossible that that isn't purely caused by them taking ivermectin. Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin both work by driving zinc into the cell. Is that correct? Or do they have different mechanisms of action? I don't know the micro mechanism of them, but they're both sort of antiviral, antiparasitic,

slightly antibiotic. And essentially, the way most antibiotics work is they damage the bacteria themselves so that they can't proliferate. What all of these drugs do is they enhance your immunity to whatever it is. And so whether it's a parasite or a virus replication or a bacteria, it's causing a change in your immune system, which is infinitely complex. It's not just like T cells, B cells, and natural killers. I mean, there are so many damn chemical messengers going in there there's so much to do like whether or not you're producing

heat in that area or whether you're not producing inflammation is it anabolic inflammation is it catabolic inflammation like there's there's there's hundreds of thousands of chemical reactions going on to that so it's infinitely complex but we but we know we know that it works and we know that it we know that it works on other viruses we know that it works on parasites we know that to a very very very small degree it has some effect on some bacteria but i mean that's just a great antimicrobial drug and it's really safe and zinc is obviously a problem and i know it does have some effects with zinc regulation. And I believe vitamin D3 as well, which is, of course, a hormone. So that's part of the immune system that's being secreted from your fat cells due to the chemical messengers of your immune system.

And so it's more complex than I could sit here and draw out the biochemical pathway of it. But you don't need it. You don't need to be able to rebuild the engine of your car to drive it. This is a simple thing. You're just taking this medication when you're at risk. And if you're 20, why would you do it? If you're 25, you're 30, you're really healthy, you're 35. Why?

Why would you do it? Why would you even take the medication it doesn't make any sense um and it yeah it's uh it's disturbing to say the least and i i don't have any idea what power i have to change anything that's the most concerning part about it. Yeah, I think that if the plants have taught me anything, they're one of the beautiful, and again, I don't know if this helps with the outcome, but surrender at least to what I can control versus what I cannot. And it's funny because this podcast here

is one of the few avenues that still is not policed. Obviously, there's some places that start with an S that Joe Rogan works with that have been pretty adamant about policing. Yeah, that's just an employee's acting like Charles' children though, right? Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I've had friends have their podcast taken down

because COVID was in the title, things like that. Yeah. Just on that one place. Wow. iTunes seems to be cool. Again, they could be messing with algorithms and things of that nature. But this is kind of the last frontier.

And I don't know how long that lasts. I got a good buddy of mine, Justin Rezvani, who's going to come on the podcast, who's created, I think I can talk about it now, an encrypted utility platform that'll operate like an app where you can have video, podcasts, any of these things. And it is end-to-end.

So it's user-to-user. There is no intermediary. It is completely decentralized and it's user-to-user. There is no intermediary. It is completely decentralized and it's attached to, it's on the blockchain attached to a Bitcoin wallet. Oh, wow. So it lives everywhere.

As long as there's an internet, it cannot be taken down. Wow. Even Signal can be taken down because it's centralized. Yeah. So all these protected apps aren't really protected.

Yeah, they might not see it, but they could do away with it pretty fucking easily. Just as fast as they did Parler or any of these other ones. One of my good friends from... Actually, I went through SEAL training with him, and I just saw him maybe a month ago. He lives out here in Austin. He started his own VPN, and he was telling me that he went and briefed the NSA that they could prove that 80% of ExpressVPN was being channeled through China

and that the company in the Bahamas where it's officially headquarters is actually owned by the Chinese, like six layers removed, you know, corporate structure. And I, so, you know, that was concerning, upsetting, right. But the more upsetting thing, my continued problem with all of this is I, as I said to him, how in the hell would I know that? How would anybody know? Like, you know that because this is what you do, right? Like, this is all the guy does.

Like, he is a cybersecurity man, and that's all he thinks about. That's all his, you know, colleagues think about, and they're doing this all day, every day. Just like, you know, if you have a dozen black belts in jiu-jitsu rolling together every day for a year, and then they know some really obvious things that some blue belt from a totally different training school comes in, and they just get caught up and don't know this really basics. And like, it's so simple. Why wouldn't you know this? Well, because that's not what you do all day, every day. Like you're not a black belt that rolls 10 hours a day. And so somebody like me is

never going to be able to keep up with this, but where's the organizations trying to help us keep up with that, right? Because like, I can't keep up with my own home security either, but that's what the police are for, and that's what neighbors are for. It's way too complex, and I just feel like my biggest concern to him is like, okay, so I get a new VPN, and then how do I know that one's not the same?

And then you get a new app, and I text on that. How do I know NSA isn't reading that one? Because there's some circuitous route in the way they're getting it. And you basically have groups of people whose thoughts all day, every day are manipulation and espionage. And they're going to try to trick you and find something out or take something from you. It's just like hackers and all that. That's what they're doing all day, every day. How do you protect yourself from it?

I don't know. That's the concerning bit to it. And like you said, at some point, you just have to surrender and go, all I can do is live my life and live with integrity, make conscientious decisions, and just keep walking forward, see what happens. And if somebody pops out of a doorway and smacks me in the head with a two by four,

I'm like, I'm going to get really hurt. That's all there is to it. Excellent Jim Duggan. Yeah, excellent Jim Duggan. Forgot about that. Out of retirement. Oh! With the American flag in his other hand.

Yeah. Yeah, I've been grappling a lot with that, especially over the last 18 months and especially having any kids, but having a newborn that came in like right smack dab in the middle of this. Yeah. It's very much a focus

and very much something that I've had to practice letting go of what's out of my control just to stay sane. I think a lot of this is connected. I don't think any of this shit is happenstance. I've read a lot that corroborates and connects the dots, whether it's true or not remains to be seen. And I would love for it to not be true.

I've said that before. I would love to be on this podcast five years from now and be like, man, remember that time when I was talking all that nonsense and that ever turned out to be the case? I would fucking, I would love it. I would hang this up. If there was some type of, you know,

if social justice moved to the forefront, but I was wrong about this and they were like, hey man, you can't podcast anymore. Right. You know, I'd be like, cool. Fucking fair trade. Fair trade. Deal, deal. I'd be like, cool, fucking fair trade, deal, deal. I'll find something else to do with my time. But it doesn't appear that way. And it doesn't appear that way. And the initial inclinations of, hey, that doesn't seem right. I remember when Tony Robbins had seven medical doctors on his podcast, two were from Stanford, two from the

Mayo Clinic, one was the Senator of Minnesota. Unanimously, they said the KN95 mask was not going to work for anything smaller than five microns. Meaning every virus on the planet won't work for viruses. Great for bacteria, most bacteria, not good for viruses. That was in March or April last year. And. You know, and then you go through all this and then Fauci's talking about, hey, we're going to have to wear goggles or some type of face visor. And then you see his emails. Yeah.

And you see his emails. And then I'm on a plane. I was going out to see Paul Cech and I'm on a plane to California and everyone had fucking two masks on. They made me double my, not on the flight there from Texas, but on the same airline coming back on Alaska, I had a Gator and they made me fold it to two.

And I was like, this is going to do fucking anything? Sure, I want to get home. I'm not going to make a point here, but it's absurd. And that is such the low hanging bit of this. mRNA being a new thing thing it's brand new it's not like other vaccines that's that's it nanotechnology and all the shit that's coming that's like that that is potential that doesn't even need to be it may be there i know dr sherry tenpenny and a lot of people i value are talking about that um and then guys like Dale Bigtree, who I value, are saying,

I don't think the technology is there yet. It doesn't need to be there yet. This is still a brand new fucking thing that we have no idea what's going to happen. And it is quite curious that the four leaders of country that were opposed to mass vaccination are all dead now. Haiti, we know is an assassination. Three others, Tanzania and two others had like heart attacks at fucking 50 and 61 and young guys with heart attacks.

Right. Right. So that's where I'm starting to say like, this isn't, this isn't, initially it was like, Hey, I think we're kind of, you know, this doesn't make sense. And then this really doesn't make sense. And then just like you said about contradiction, I was like, oh no, this makes perfect sense if it's not for our best interest.

If the people connected to this are, if it's in many ways verifying what David Icke and Alex Jones have been beating the drum about for fucking decades, that's scary. When's the last time you've ever been forced, coerced and bribed to do anything that was good for you? The bribery too, right?

Like fucking Juice Lantz giving out free juices. They're giving out donuts and they're giving out marijuana joints and like, what? Yeah. Yeah. And at the, somebody, if somebody posted that, like a meme, like if they came up with a cure for cancer today,

would you need a free fucking donut to go get it? Right. Absurd, right? But the, you know, my point in talking about- If they came up with a cure for obesity, would you need to be convinced? Like, I mean, you're not obese, but like anybody who's obese, if you're obese and you're 30, that's bad for you,

but there's no obvious immediate health threat to you. But if they said, hey, we got the cure for obesity, every obese person would be there. No matter how young they were, no matter how healthy they were, they would all be in there. Just from an aesthetic standpoint, they'd say yes to that. Yeah. Well, and they know they feel like crap. They know they can't perform the way they want to. they would all be in there just from an aesthetic standpoint right say yes to that yeah well and

they know they feel like crap they know they don't they can't perform the way they want to like i mean it's more than just like the shame of how they look i think a lot of it's the uh despondency of just going where's my life going like what am i going to be even capable of you know like if you if you weigh 500 pounds and you see a commercial for tulum with zip lining and scuba diving and snorkeling and kite surfing that's not for you right you can't do that yeah even if you're 25 years old that's probably can't do that if you if you weigh 400 pounds like that's not even it's not, yeah. Even to fly there. Right. Yeah.

Can you fit in a, can you fit in a plane? Right. Like there's, there's a lot, there's a lot to that. And at the end of the day, people want to't have a meaningful and fulfilling life without the freedom to choose what you're doing with your life, right? And you can't have freedom if you can't have privacy. And right now you have no privacy. Who's listening to us right now?

Like we're not even on the air, but like somebody could be listening to us right through our phones or through these computers or something. And that's just everywhere all the time. They're reading your emails. They're reading your texts. They're tracking your car.

They're tracking your phone. You know, there's contact tracing on iPhones, like on their software updates. If they know that this guy got COVID and they know if you were around them, right? Like they have algorithms like doing all this stuff. So that means they know where you are at all times. And if you turn off and you leave your phone at home,

the GPS on your car tells them, you know? It's like, you know, I don't see how you could possibly, anyone could ever possibly feel free when they think they're being, and they know they're being scrutinized at all times. Because when you're being scrutinized, you do things differently, right? If you're on national TV,

you don't walk the same way you walk when you're in your house, right? Just because there's a consciousness that I'm being watched and it changes the way I behave. Even if I go on television all the time and i feel comfortable that like it's still going to change the way i behave and all of this stuff is meant to change how we behave yeah and that's that's i mean literally that's the definition of tyranny like yeah and we are living in a tyrannical society whether the government's beating down your door

or Facebook is censoring you, blocking you to take in your podcast down and taking away your revenue stream. If you're a YouTuber, well, you know the examples. I mean, the conservative, lots of conservative guys just get, they just demonetize their YouTube channel.

And some of these guys are making a whole hell of a lot of money. Even Brent Weinstein, that's why he went on. And he's not conservative by all stretches of his own accord. And just for- Yeah, I just really mean conservative around these couple of issues, right? Like I know plenty of people, like my next door neighbor when I lived in Zoka is super leftist.'s a jazz musician and like we debated politics all the time and like it's fine like you know we joked around like had a good time we uh nobody hates each other but i mean even

you know he he and most of his friends or they think about this stuff exactly like we do so it's i don't even know if it's conservatism as much as it's rationalism. I mean, it's just like, is this rational? This is not, like the two things I told you about the vaccine, that's not rational. And if it is rational, rationalize it for me. Tell me the rational argument for this and let me look into that

or give me enough data to where I believe you. That's not too much to ask if you're asking me to inject some sort of foreign substance into my body that i don't really know what it does and neither do you you know it's reasonable to let me ask a few questions and they feel entitled to getting some answers before you force me to do something and make no mistake they're going to force it yeah no doubt no doubt and and there's there's zero doubt about that. I think my point that I'm driving towards is that there is a push for a one world government. Call that globalism, technocracy,

however you want to word that. There's a strong push for that. And it may already be in place. And we're just seeing the last unfoldings of this play out. Yeah. They do, for whatever reason, announce what's going to happen prior to it coming. I mean, the Rockefellers wrote about this 10 years ahead of time, a time when there would be a pandemic and they would need to limit the misinformation going around and conspiracy theories. And people would give up part of their sovereignty to become safe

and quarantines and curfews and all this shit. It's all on paper. They're still doing things similar. Just as there was an event 201 that took place prior to the pandemic, the World Economic Forum just did an event 201 equivalent for the next great thing, which is a cyber attack. And Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum has stated in video, again, they're not hiding any of this shit, it's hiding in plain sight, that the cyber attack would be effectively,

it would effectively make COVID-19 look like a walk in the park. Right. So I don't know if that is the grid going down or people losing all of their wealth, which is all electronic now anyways. Well, that's why we're moving to the digital dollar, right? Yeah.

And not only that, they're going to pay off the deficit with our money with the digital dollar because they're going to say, well, your paper dollars only convert to $0.60 on the digital dollar because this is more valuable. And then that $0.40 goes in their pocket, and they're going to steal half the wealth of the country. I mean, and like you said, they announce it. They say they're going to do it, and then they do it. And we've seen this over and over again. Did you see the Project Veritas thing where the girl hooked up with some producer on Tinder

and filmed him. From CNN. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he said straight up, our primary objective as a newspaper the entire time Trump was there was to discredit Trump and to make sure he didn't get reelected and to watch him and push him out early if we could. And that's what we did. And they talked a lot about that. Um, that, I don't think that was too shocking to me, to most people. Um, but he said our next priority,

the next thing that we're going to do essentially. So the next thing we're going to lie about the next thing, the next propaganda we're going to spread it's climate change and he said it and i was like what six months ago nine months ago and how much of that are you seeing now like i'm like don't don't remember we we heard we heard this was coming like what why are we falling for it i get i don't get i don't get it like is there so much information that nobody can keep up with it? And like, there's so many people from so many different angles trying to force control on you that you don't really know where the damage is coming from, you know? Yeah. Or where the threat's coming from. And so, like, I don't know.

It's like, there's so many things wrong right now. I could see, you know, there's so many disturbing things about where we're going and where we're at. I could see being a politician and being like, oh, okay. Like I have 10 hours of work today. Which one am I going to get on, right? And no predictability.

Will that be the most impactful thing? Will that be popular? Will that be unpopular? Will that extend your career, end your career? No way of knowing. There's no way of knowing because everything is Orwellian. I could just keep redefining words and rewriting history. And it's just, I don't know how anybody can look at it and say this isn't happening.

But they do. Like, they do all the time. Oh, this is just a bunch of hyperbole. This is an extremely rare case. Like, no, it's not. I've been going to these meetings around here about getting, for the last four months, about getting CRT out of classrooms, right? People around here. What's CRT? of classrooms, right? People around here- What's CRT?

The critical race theory. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is just racism. They're just teaching racism. And they've been fighting this for like over a year when I started going to these things six months ago. So I'm just now starting to hear about it in the news. And I was kind of surprised that it was in Texas,

but outside of Austin, it's the most liberal city in Texas for sure. So I mean, such disturbing stuff I heard. This woman, actually, so the most impactful story, so this was more recent. This woman was contacting the school and trying to say,

when's school gonna start again, right? And this is three or four months into the pandemic. When's school gonna come? Or asking questions, asking questions about the mask, asking questions about when school is going to reopen. Why isn't it reopening? Like I saw this and that.

And the, whatever the governing body was, I don't know if it was the, I don't know if it was the faculty or like the school board, but like whoever she was communicating with, after about six weeks just quit communicating with her. And they wouldn't answer emails. They wouldn't answer calls. She would go to the school.

They wouldn't see her. She'd go to their offices. They wouldn't see her. She's not a crazy woman. She's a very sane, very normal woman who's a business owner. And she had political chops. Her dad had been like a mayor of a pretty decent sized city or something. And so she knew a little bit about this and she's like, well, I'm going to run for the school board and then I'll know the answers,

right? Like I'm just going to get in the mix. So she raises $150,000 to run for a local school board seat. She gets death threats. Her house gets vandalized. Her kids get death threats. Her kids get bullied and picked on in school. Her husband gets death threats and nasty calls, some nasty stuff about his wife and terrible things and all this other stuff.

She perseveres. She goes to the election. It's raining outside on election night. The school board is comprised of, I think, seven people. And on the side opposing her, the only people there were the seven people on the school board. There were like seven people on the school board. Whoa. There were like 500 people outside.

They usually get, I said, I want to say they usually get around 15 to 1,800 people vote for the school board because it's not a big thing. They had 18,000 people vote and she lost. Damn. By half a percentage point or something. And if she wants a recount or wants to investigate, she has to pay for it. You know,

that's tearing. Like, is it possible? Yeah, but highly unlikely, especially since all she was, all she was saying is like, we want to know what our kids are learning. That's it. Like, we want to know what are, what highly unlikely, especially since all she was saying is, like, we want to know what our kids are learning.

That's it. Like, we want to know, what are you teaching our kids, and when are we going to go back to school? Like, we just want answers. Parents need to know, why are we not in school? When are we coming back to school? Like, it's not like she's up there saying she's going to revamp the school system. Yeah. And she met with, it wasn't Black Lives Matter, but it's some kind of subsidiary linked thing to that.

And she met with the woman who she lost to before the election. She went to try to talk to her about some stuff and she was dubbed a white extremist and a racist and reported to the police that this racist woman is coming around and threatening her. And all she's trying to do is like go in her office and talk like, so was she being irrational and emotional?

Like, I don't know, but she wasn't being racist. Like, I find it really hard to believe she's being racist. And if she were, that would have come out really quickly if we'd been waiting there, right? It's like, so yeah, I mean, I feel like it's all part of the same game though, right? Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Like it doesn't matter what division it is.

It's like it's, there's, I don't even know if it's a side. Like, I don't know if you can, I don't think it's, I don't know if it's as simple as political division. Like it's something else. Well, it's in education, it's something else like it's in education it's in finance it's in yeah but i just mean as far as like so like if you go to the education like education split like crt is the appropriate american history to be teaching we've never taught american history correctly and then there's other people going no we're doing pretty well like just you know teach our kids our kids reading and writing.

CRT flies in the face of Martin Luther King Jr. Right. Flies in the fucking face. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And the other thing is that these people are saying, well, we're going to put CRT into math.

We're going to put CRT into reading. We're going to put CRT into science. It's like, what the hell does science have to do with with what and so but my point is so there's a divide there is that just right and left is that just i don't think so like i think there's plenty of like pretty left democrats who would be like no just you know teach my kids like reading writing and arithmetic right like i don't need you to educate them about racism and all that stuff, especially like little kids, like little kids. Like who knows a racist five-year-old

or seven-year-old or eight? Like, you don't think about this stuff when you're a kid. Not unless you've been taught to be. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so education's an example of that, but finance is an example of that, right? And obviously politics is an example of that, but finance is an example of that, right? And obviously politics is an example of that, but every industry, like Hollywood is,

well, not really split, it's kind of like 90 to 10, right? You know, the entertainment industry is kind of the same way, but I don't know if it's as simple as just saying they're conservative. They want to conserve the country they grew up in, right? And that's what I think if you use that idea,

maybe that's a political distinction that you could say, but I think you could have conservative ideals on a few things and still be quite liberal. And I put myself in that category. It's like most of the stuff they argue about in politics, I don't care. I really don't. I don't care about gay marriage. I, like, I'm not super opinionated about most things.

There's a few things I care about. Like, you know, I care about the economics of the country. I care about the military and the world standing in the country. Like, these are the things that are gonna allow my kids to have a country to grow up in, right? And I made this comment to my mother, of course, like, you know, I voted for Trump and I'm a white man

and I'm a doctor and I was in the military and I'm heterosexual. And I made this comment to my mom. I'm like, how is it that I grew up with the patriotic ideals that the country had? Like I was born into these ideals that I still have today. And those same ideals now make me the enemy of the same country that I grew up in, or at least a loud cohort of them. And I heard some commentator say,

he'd say it even better. He's like, the ideals that your grandfather joined the military and fought World War II over, those same ideals today make you a Nazi extremist. Right? And it's true, right? like uh so you know that's and the people that are calling you that are advocating you know barcodes on your fucking forearm right which is right right what happened in nazi germany exactly yeah they um yeah i don't care if it's a digital passport or reading my text or reading my emails or putting a chip in me.

It's all the same thing to me. It's all you saying that you know better than I do and I'm subservient to your amazingness and you just tell me what to do and allow me to live in your country i think it's my country too man uh but it's messy it's messy and uh yeah you're right i mean i think the lessons from the plant medicines are definitely applicable now. This is the main time to just go, let me be really observant and let me just let go of my preconceived notions of what should happen.

Let me watch this unfold and, you know, see where my opportunities are to get involved, you know. And I haven't seen it yet. You know, I'm just working on not driving myself crazy. Yeah. I think that's an important piece of it though. It really is because if we're operating in fear, that's when we're going to turn ourselves over

to an authoritarian or a dictatorship and just be like, oh, you tell me what to do. Right. Save my life. Right. Make me safe again. Allow me to find peace. So us managing ourselves,

whether it be through plant medicines, meditation, yoga, weightlifting, being in nature, any of the, all of them. All of those things. All of them. Yeah. If I'm handling that, at least I'm going to think clearly. And from there, that purview and awareness opens up. I can see greater opportunity to affect the whole.

And be the change that I wish to see. Right. Like if you want to fucking take the shot, go for it. I'm not going to stop you from that. I have my personal views on it. And that's why I don't want it. All I ask in return is that you don't force me and my family to take it. But if you see that as the best avenue for your health, by all means.

It is silly, though. Because we've, in many ways, given away our power from a very young age to somebody that arguably knows better than us. And in certain ways does, right? Like in certain ways, you know far more about medicine than I do. Not in certain ways, plain and simple, you know far more about medicine than I do. But if we were taught health, if we weren't disconnected from our food supply, if our food supply wasn't constantly fucked with, with genetically modified food and glyphosate and the list goes on and on,

if we were eating organic from a young age, we're doing all these things, we wouldn't be starting off handicapped when it comes to dealing with nature, right? We would be starting off within the sacred hoop and able to withstand anything that is thrown at us. Yeah. And by giving that away young, sacred hoop and able to withstand anything that is thrown at us. Yeah.

And by giving that away young, we've already become accustomed to that in a certain sense. So it's kind of hard even to fault the people who blindly say, tell me whatever to do, I'm going to do it. Right. I mean, that's a revolution I could get behind, right? And maybe this is something we all plan when we're in the gulags together you know like how like how we're gonna build back better afterwards but um you know uh i i think that that speaks to my my opening or opening dialogue about whether or not this is narcissism and ego-driven

or do they really want to try to build a utopia? What you're describing is trying to build a utopia, right? You want everybody to be healthier, right? It's like, I want everybody to... There's no controversy that eating well and exercising and sleeping and meditating, controlling your stress levels, there's no controversy that those well and exercising and sleeping and meditating, controlling your stress levels. There's no controversy that those are healthy things, right? There's controversy over whether or not this vaccine is healthy,

like a healthy play, right? And if you, if you do take the vaccine, every time you hear anybody screaming at you about the vaccine, it's always about them, right? And, and I'm like, I, I don't, how does this happen? You, you can take the vaccine if you want to. And if I don't take it, that's, that's a me problem. You know, why do you care? Right. You took the vaccine. It works. You believe it works. I'm not going to get you sick because you took the vaccine. Why do you care if I took it or not? Right. So it's about them. They're not trying to make me healthy.

They're trying to protect themselves. You're not trying to make me healthy. They're trying to protect themselves. You're not trying to protect yourself with that idea. You're like saying, hey, I want to be part of this fit, enlightened culture so that we can all have better lives and my kids can have better lives and we can all build a better country. We can all think clearly. We can all fight off diseases without needing to rely on medicines or getting locked down in our houses or wearing masks,

whatever, because we're taking care of our health and we're robustly healthy. And yeah, you don't want to be locked down in your house, but you also, you don't want the economy shut down. You don't want everybody else to be locked down in their house either, right? Like, I don't want anybody to be wearing a mask. I don't want anybody to be unnecessarily afraid of this. And so, again, I just think this is, it's completely, it's ego-driven on the other side. And so that's why I'm not as sure, I'm not as sure as like how much are we dealing

with narcissism versus political opinion. They all kind of pack together and just say and do whatever they want. there was that case when Amy Coney Barrett was being evaluated for whatever the process is called for being on the Supreme Court and she answered a question for that that senator from Hawaii the kind of Polynesian woman heavyset dumb as a box of rocks from Hawaii. Oh, oh no. Or the kind of Polynesian woman,

uh, heavyset, like dumb as a box of rocks. Like, but like, it's hard to say who's the dumbest, but she, she is way, way up.

She's high up in the ranks. And, uh, and she said, uh, she asked Amy Cunning Barrett a question and she answered it. And, uh,

at some point in the question i don't remember it's about probably trans activism or homosexuality or some sort of lgbt like who knows something like that and she said and during the course of her answer she she said the phrase sexual preference and then Hirano comes back to her and says how dare you say that the term sexual preference is degrading you're making out to be a choice

and this is this is who they are this is not a choice and everyone I think every sane person was going, really? Who knows that? Well, the very next day, Wikipedia, Webster's Dictionary,

all these things online had changed their definitions to marry with this woman had just said and attacked her with. So that's the organization that we're up against. They have the microphone, and they're the ones telling us we're wrong. And if we are right, they just redefine what wrong is. And now we're wrong because they all agree, and they have the microphones. And we have these podcasts, but how many are we reaching compared to mainstream media, right?

And who knows anything about us and how many other people are spreading similar message or contradictory message? Like it's noisy and it's confusing. And again, I think it's just about, after I talked about selfishness, it's time to be a little selfish and just focus on yourself a lot and try to keep your own center during this and try to keep yourself really healthy and try to get whatever lessons and growth

you can out of this. And hope they don't come to your door and take you away or whatever. That is one thing that it's funny because we've been more into the real science behind things like this and then sort of the psychology behind what the world is going through right now. But on a spiritual level, one thing that's been kind of a nice little nest that I lay in at night is thinking that on a soul level, this might be like the fucking fast track mass trajectory trajectory of

ultimate growth. Yeah. You know, like, can I surrender to this? Can I, can I let go of, when I,

when I read the Gulag archipelago, that was kind of my thought. It was like, yeah, I'll die in there. But like, what will happen in that year to 18 months before I succumb to starvation and whatever, like sleep deprivation, malnutrition, whatever they do. And I don't, I'm not too alarmist. I'm not saying the gulags are going to pop back up again. But

that same concept, right? If I'm going to get destroyed, there's got to be a lesson in this for me, right? What is the lesson? If I can try to focus on that lesson, maybe that's the solution. Maybe all of us try to focus on the lesson and we get really granular with ourselves and listen to nature instead of listening to our own fears and our own concerns and the media or whichever side you're on. Maybe the solution is just all of us to become as centered and enlightened as we possibly can for whenever the opportunity comes up

to do something different, we're as capable as we can possibly be to do it at that point. Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. And that's so perfectly aligned with what I do for a living, right?

So like, I mean, obviously my big thing is sleep and that's the most powerful thing to making you healthy, obviously. Like that's when you get healthy, right? that's when you're recuperating and repairing and all that stuff um but just like you know my whole practice of sort of performance-based medicine i don't really work with sick sick people right i work with people who are fairly healthy but have some performance goals and you know and they want to they want to stretch the limits of what they're capable of so that so that's actually really inspiring to me

because I just realized, okay, well, that's what I do. Like that's what I usually do. That's my usual behavior. So I'm glad we talked about this because I think that's going to be my approach now. It's just like work on myself, be as centered as I can be. Stay open to the lessons out there and don't let the lessons out there.

And don't let the fear and doomsday get in. Right? At the end, we both know. We've had our experiences. We both have crossed this threshold and understand undeniably so that we're not our bodies. We are our bodies right now in this form, but that is when the body ends, that is not the end of us. And so if I can lean on that remembering and knowing with a capital K, then all this falls into an interesting dream.

That was, I haven't gotten that as much from like ayahuasca and psilocybin, but 5-MeO is like... I was so happy to die. I was so happy to just dissolve and be like, oh. And just laughing at every concern I'd ever had, going, what a moron. I remember the second time I did 5-MeO, I called the woman who had facilitated it for me the first time.

And it had been probably a year or something since I'd done it. And I wanted to do it because I felt... I mean, you know the experience. It's such an amazing experience and it changed my perspective for so long and I just felt so good about it. And then life had gotten busier and busier,

and I'd quit going there as much. When I did 5MEO, and I don't know if maybe different people produce different amounts of DMT. I don't know what it is. But when I did 5MEOO I was listening to a certain soundtrack music and for months afterwards I could listen

I could lay in my bed and close my eyes and listen to that music and I could get like 90% of my 5-MeO experience they call that reactivations I wasn't familiar with it until this last round which ended up being quite dark but I think as above so below what I'm dealing with in the external effect of that. But continue.

Yeah, it's totally possible with that medicine. And I just kind of lost that daily practice and wasn't doing it as much. In life, it got busy and the businesses were spinning and I was lecturing a lot. And I was like, oh, I just need, if we can find a way to link up in the next week. Because, like, after that, I just have, like, I had, like, some, it was ridiculous.

I had something like 10 lectures in different cities in 12 days or something. And it wasn't quite that much because a couple of them were, like, major symposiums where I had, like, three or four lectures over three days. And just all day talking to people and and and I'm not and I'm an introverted person like I've learned to be extroverted and I can behave that way but it's exhausting to me and I just knew I was gonna be exhausted I'm like you know and and I thought you know I'm gonna come out of this like I'm gonna meet up with her we're gonna do this and I'm gonna come out of this with some clarity on so like how to manage my focus during this and what's gonna make me the most efficient and successful and like I had all these linear thoughts about how this is gonna work out and of course within five seconds I'm crying laughing at how fucking ridiculous I'm being just

like what are you wound up about? Are you kidding me? You know better than this. What the hell are you doing? And so it had the attendant effect, but it didn't do anything I thought it was going to do. I just came out of it going, I am an idiot. And I know I'm an idiot,

so why do I have to worry about looking like an idiot? Like, I'm willing to admit that. Like, yeah, I'm a moron. And what else? Like, what else you want to know? Yeah, and that was my second experience with that. And then the third time I did it, it was, man, I don't even know if I could go on forever about this, but I did it with a really, really close friend from the SEAL teams, like

really close. Um, and it was after he'd done some other treatment and I was, I was part of that support group. Um, we're not doing it, but then we both did it at the end and I could, I was going through his experience with him while he was doing it. And then when I did it, I had these, we had done some traveling together when we were younger. We'd been to lots of different places doing different things. And there were like rock climbing, for example.

There was a time when we were at Joshua Tree where we were rock climbing and he was like far away as that other building. He was climbing something and I'm climbing. We're not really rock climbing. We're just like kind of bouldering. Like when, you know, we're young. We didn't know. We didn't have any technical skills.

But we went on like this for hours. Like he's over here climbing that and I'd say, oh, that looks cool. And I'd go there and climb that and he'd be over here doing it. And we just, and some, you know, a few times we were together, but most of the day I could see him, but we weren't, we weren't doing the same thing. And could see him and then I would be him watching me. And it was equally as vivid. It was just as realistic. And when you see a picture of yourself,

or at least me, when I see a picture of myself, I'm like, oh, that's what I look like. I didn't think that's what I looked like. And that was my experience. It was that kind of detail. So I was looking back and going, oh, well, that looks kind of stupid that I was doing that that way. And that was something I would have no visual experience of, right?

So how was I doing that? And this, I mean, you know, it seems like an hour, whatever, minutes, but it just leapfrogged so quickly and kind of like our whole lives together. And we just did that. And I just kept interchanging with him. And then, and I did first and I didn't tell him what I saw. And then when he did it, he had a very similar experience.

Like he was seeing me in places where I wasn't. Like when he got, when he was in combat places, he was seeing me there with him doing it, and I wasn't there. And maybe that's just the power of us being together, but I don't know. It seems... It seems to profoundly suggest

that there's way more to us than our body, right? How do you see and experience something you've never seen and experienced? That's as real or realer than real life. Yeah, if it's your body, if your body is you, then how is that possible? That's not possible. And we were both doing it.

So maybe that's a secret. We just got to do 5-E-Meow every week. Burn our brain down. Go low. Go light and low to start. That's my recommendation on that one. And maybe give a little space if you've had a combo beforehand because you're quite cleaned out.

Well, I got to run. I'm taking a bit of Schlitterbahn. Yeah, man. Where can people find you now that you're off Twitter? Where can people get their hands on your awesome sleep formula? So doc, as in Dr. D-O-C, his last name partially, like your P-A-R-S-L-E-Y, docparsley.com. That's my website.

It's being redesigned right now. It's a little aged, but there's a lot of information on that. It's downloadable PDFs to help people with stress and sleep. You can download my e-book on there. I think you can even download my Amazon book on there now for free. I think we're giving that away. And then, of course, we have the sleep remedy. We have the capsules. We have the tea.

And then we came up with a kid's formulation. I don't know if you know anything about that. We did that about a year and a half ago. And that's called sleep remedy. Sleepremedy.com will actually take you to the same place, but you can get to that off my website. It's whichever way you want to go. Cool. We'll link to all that.

And then on that, whatever social media I have left is like linkable on the site like you can click on it and like i i'm a moron with all that stuff so i don't know like what my different handles are because i some of them i created some of them my employees created and i can't keep track of it so just if you want to follow me on instagram or linkedin or not Twitter. I think I'm on Facebook too, so I don't know. For now. For now. For a while, yeah.

Well, I love you, brother. Thanks for coming back. I love you, man. It was great to have a chance to sit with you. Great to see you. I need calm people in my life like this. Most of the people I know are panicking one direction to the other, you know, and it's easy to buy into the hysteria, you know,

especially if you listen to too many political podcasts or something. Yeah. So it's great, great connecting and talking to you. Absolutely, brother. COVID 1984. I just got your shirt. Just right now? I just noticed that. You didn't see that when we first started? I did not. Oh, man. Yeah 1984. I just got your shirt. Just right now? I just noticed that.

You didn't see that when we first started? I did not. Yeah. Yeah. I've been loving these shirts. I'm dumb, but I'm slow. Thank you.