Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #236 Chervin Jafarieh

Starting point is 00:00:00 Lookity blammo, baby. We're back. We're back. We're back. I don't know how long I've been gone, but I feel like I'm back. And the reason I'm back is because I'm back with Sherveen Jhaferia, who has, over the last... Shit, has it only been like a year and a half? Two years? Become one of my favorite people on the planet. Somebody that I've learned a ton from. This is his third time on this podcast.

Starting point is 00:00:29 I've been on his podcast, of course, Wake the Fake Up, which I believe he's pumping out new content. We'll find out later. This is one of the first times where I'm doing ads prior to actually recording the show. And there's good reason for that. I got to turn this around quick and I won't have time to do the reads and the intros and all that good stuff after the fact. So this is a beforehand and I can only make predictions about what this show will be like.

Starting point is 00:00:57 But if you've listened to us in the past, I think our second episode we just did was one of my all-time favorites. It was on the influences of Lucifer and Ariman, a book by Rudolf Steiner that is absolutely fantastic. It's a very short read. We break down really in modern terminology what those influences look like, what they are archetypically, what they are spirits-wise, the whole deal, and how it applies today. One of my favorite podcasts I've ever done. So I imagine we will bring up some Steiner. I imagine we'll bring up Lucifer and Armand. I imagine that, you know, shit, it's probably been a year since we did that. Close to it, actually. Yeah, I was at Paul Cech's Mandala Workshop last year in March and we're here late January. So damn near a year.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, I'm super stoked. Anytime I get a chance to hang with Chervene, it's just pure medicine. Chervene also started Symbiotica, which is one of the absolute greatest supplement companies on the planet.

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Starting point is 00:12:48 And I think that's, you know, how I was able to become who I am today is by going through the fire, right? We always talk about that hormesis, right? That which does not kill you makes you so strong. Well, let me tell you, man, all night long, you can hear my voice. I was nonstop sneezing. It was like everything was coming out of my ears, my eyes, my nose. I just never really experienced allergy attack like that. My histamines were on fire, and something wanted to come out of me.

Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, I'm going to see if I can get you absolutely situated over at Kuya. We're filming it on right now, but I want to get us across the street. Hopefully before three, I think we can do it. They've got some super shots that'll just fucking have you right as rain, ready to go. You know what we looked at, like a COVID super spreader. It's funny how many people in Texas forgot. Like I remember it was kind of a running joke, not in Austin, because there's so

Starting point is 00:13:45 many transplants, myself included. At least I was here for four years before. So I beat the rush. But how many people were like, y'all, that's cedar fever. It ain't the vid. Relax. It happens to everyone, every fucking year. Yeah, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. We, you know, in working with Dr. Will Tagle, who's a local to the Hill Country, he wrote Walking with Bears, been on the podcast. He just told me, you know, one of the old native principles was to work with the plant,

Starting point is 00:14:16 to literally talk to the plant, to burn it, but don't pull it. You know, pull from what's been dropped from the tree, what's been left from you from the tree. If there's a berry, you can suck on a berry. If it's one of the females, if it's one of the males, you wait for the males to drop, and then you grab the brown, you light a little bit, move it around your auric field, and then sniff it. So that way it goes into your senses while making the prayer or the statement, hey, I'm here. I'm from this place. I've come to your home. Please take me in.

Starting point is 00:14:46 I wish to be a caretaker of this land. Well, next time you got to send me a UPS. I got some at the crib, bro. I'll hook you up before you leave that we can start working with it. So I can pray with it. And cedar smells amazing. It really does smell amazing.

Starting point is 00:15:02 I love cedar. I work with cedar. This is a whole different ballgame. This is a different level of, this is our pollen, right? It's when all the males are just fucking ejaculating across the airwaves, just boosting out. When Bear was at Waldorf,

Starting point is 00:15:18 I was pushing him on a swing, and they have a ton of it. And he kept going, he's like, higher, dad, higher. And I pushed him up higher and his foot kicked a male in this brown cloud, reddish brown cloud filled the air and i was like no i couldn't get him off the swing fast enough i was like run like it was like some shit just seeped out you know like a some kind of contagion just hearing that right now and the state of affairs i'm currently in right now is just shocking my system to the highest level. That's like a horror movie.

Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah. But, you know, that's where all the energy is. That's where all the jing is. That's why the body is like, whoa, okay, we don't recognize this. We don't know what this is. Time to unload every histamine and get it out of you. And that's how important integration is, just with anything. It reminds me of the subject of radionics, right?

Starting point is 00:16:05 Before you integrate whatever tool or technology or medicine, you want to get your body, mind, heart, spirit integrated with the spirit gradually. So there's not this big shock wave that hits you. There's not this histamine. There's not this speed bump. It's the same thing with food, nutrition, biotics, probiotics, prebiotics, all of these things, it's getting the body and the mind and the soul ready for its integration. It reminds me of Wesley in The Princess Bride. He microdoses that poison. That's right.

Starting point is 00:16:36 And he puts it in both cups. Inconceivable. Inconceivable. You know, you got to microdose the poison a little bit each day. He's playing with the cups. The one where he's playing with the cups. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:16:45 Exactly. Hey, what's that over there? He turns around. Put it in both cups. Yup. So yeah, that's what we got to do.

Starting point is 00:16:53 We got to microdose that. Maybe we can combo style it. I could take a little bit and burn it into my skin a little bit. That would work. I'm sure that would work. Yeah. And I'm sure that would work in, in combination with combo.

Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. This is, I mean, what we're talking about is homeopathy, right? This is homeopathy like one-on-one. So maybe we've got to do something like that. I want to work with the herbs, with the plants, and really figure this out. And emotionally during this whole process, I'm not like, fuck cedar at all.

Starting point is 00:17:21 I'm like, whoa, okay. I'm talking to you. I'm communicating with you. I'm feeling you. I'm like, whoa, okay. I'm talking to you. I'm communicating with you. I'm feeling you. I'm not trying to block it. I'm not trying to hit it with some drug. Yeah, exactly. I'm not trying to discommunicate

Starting point is 00:17:34 the body's experience with it. That's going to create a drastic issue down the line. I really am just feeling into it and like what its spirit is. And it's fierce. Yeah, that's a fierce plant. But Will said it's the apex plant of this land, of the hill country.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. He also said it's a relative to the sequoias and the redwoods. Yeah. I was like, no shit. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:54 Just because that's, you know, my territory back in the bay. That's right. You know, so I felt that resonance come in here. There's cedars in Half Moon Bay. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So that makes sense. They're all connected. You've been down in SoCal. The last time we jumped on a podcast, we discussed the influences of Lucifer and Ahriman. That was a good one. That was one of my all-time favorites, still one of my all-time favorites. That was so good. That was in the house. I think you and I,

Starting point is 00:18:23 we had an epic weekend at the Chexters and that was part of our main discussion between me, you, and we were like, okay, let's really polish this one off a little bit and get in there. We got into the whole aspects of the alcohol and the escapism and all that stuff and brought it up in today's modern 21st century. I still am getting messages all the time. People are like, whoa, I just listened to that again. And so much of my life just got more clear. And that's really why we do what we're doing. Absolutely, brother. To make things more clear. Everything we do is for clarity. All of these books, all of these medicines, all of the education, all of the, you know, the peptide, the supplements, what is it for? It's for clarity. I was having that aha moment on the flight over here. You know, I was like,

Starting point is 00:19:12 what am I doing? What the hell am I running around? Like, what's to get more clarity, you know? And with more clarity comes more ease and more ease comes more grace. Greater levels of awareness, right? And through sometimes through a hard-nosed experience where you find the ultimate respect for the ocean or for the cedar or for whatever totally and sometimes just uh you know we show up and we get hit with something and then that's there's the learning experience too yeah um i wanted the reason i brought up lucifer and arm on is because i wanted to ask you you know since that conversation which was almost a year ago. Was that a year ago?

Starting point is 00:19:46 Just about, I think it was March. And we're, you know, mid, late January right now. Oh yeah. February or March when I came out for Chexters and stayed with y'all. What have you been introduced to or what has unfolded in the last year that really flows with the birth of Aramon,

Starting point is 00:20:02 which was something that Steiner had predicted over a hundred years ago. Obviously we dive way further into this in that podcast I'll link to in the show notes. But I guess, I guess for me, the more I've come to terms with, you know, with, with Ike, as he states, when you understand the end game, it's a lot easier to track the totalitarian tiptoe going forward. And I mentioned to you, he's coming on at the end of the month. I'm fucking stoked for that. It's something I'm gonna bring up. But one thing, as I've become more clear and with something I mentioned to you before the podcast

Starting point is 00:20:34 was like the greater, all of the other moving pieces in my life become, my family life, as a father, as a husband, sex life, which is big in restoration as a fucking dad with a newborn, still not sleeping together. All of those things coming back online, which they have, gives me a greater degree of ease. So it's like, all right, this feels stable. This feels stable. Work is stable. Fit for service is stable. The podcast is excellent. That, I think, gives me permission to not shun and shy away from shit that I don't want to believe is true. You know, that's been the case for me. I remember listening to Catherine Austin Fitz talk about the transhumanist movement, and I know I had heard it from Mike first, but I was like, this is too much.

Starting point is 00:21:33 You know, like futures, betting on people's lives, like how the financial game, which you come from, would be used, you know, in accordance with health and biometric feedback and a lot of the apps that I had promoted on this show, Aura Ring, the Whoop Watch, all this shit, right? In real time. Data. Yeah, data, exactly. Data, data, data. And so I think as my life has improved in the controllable areas, that's allowed me to surrender to what is essentially outside of my control and see it for what it actually is. What has shaped you since our last conversation that might flow in with Aramon, it might not, but just, you know, what is the, what are some of the things that you've been able to see?

Starting point is 00:22:10 Because you got into this so much earlier than I did. You really got into it at a point where you were still raw. You were much more impressionable. You had, you didn't have filters up and blocks that kept you from being able to see the truth. And I really admire that about you. And of course your cousin, David Avocado-Wolf, for introducing you to the path.

Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah. I think what you just said regarding all the information and all the technologies are becoming so clear to me. I'm watching everything every single day and seeing the data that's been unfolding. And this entire experiment that we've been going through over the last year and a half, two years, in my opinion, is a data capture. Every single nuance. And what I mean by data, I mean the human response system to fear and oppression and how far the human is willing to be able to be pressed on before fighting back.

Starting point is 00:23:07 I think that's a key metric that's being measured right now. And it's a very aramonic measurement because it's studying the resolve of man, the resolve of woman, the resolve of our children. And that data is going to be used with no punches held, so to speak. It's going to be used with full force, and it's being used right now. And I was researching. I always check on basically the health of our country, our financial systems, our medical systems. I was going deep into the medical systems and how much money is being made in the healthcare system and how every dollar spent for any healthcare is taxed on. So that's more federal money. The whole thing is just one big scam in my opinion.

Starting point is 00:23:56 And the medical system that we're dealing with today is one of Ariman's main arms because it backdoors into our own empowerment. If we're giving away our power to a medical system, we've lost all faith in our ability to heal ourselves and to function as human beings, just on a psychological sense. And that becomes Ahrimanic in itself. Ahriman wants to come into the body and say, fear the body, fear the bodies, don't communicate with the body.

Starting point is 00:24:28 You're just flesh and bone. There's no way of healing outside of that. And you have to give your power out to something higher than you, another ruling class. Another structure. Another structure, another system. And when you get into the psychosis of that, it limits the ability to fundamentally grow and limits the ability to have spirit help you. And that's why you hear it all the time. We're in a spiritual war, a hundred percent we're in a spiritual war because we're disabling the spirit of our own psyche.

Starting point is 00:24:56 And the medical mafia, the medical system, what we're dealing with is running shambles of our own human psyche and creating a separation. And that separation is leaving a lot of people out to trust things that they have no idea what they're trusting. How are they operating with discernment, making choices about their life and their children's lives and their family's life if they don't even know how any of this stuff works? That's like you're asking an artist to draw something empirical when you haven't even given them the data. It doesn't work that way. And so if you reverse engineer that back into the household,

Starting point is 00:25:34 the household right now is under a lot of pressure. People are under a lot of pressure. And I want to make this clear. I'm not against the medical system per se in terms of the individual doctors out there. I work with a lot of doctors. We have incredible doctors on our board at Symbiotica. There are so many practicing people of allopathic care that are doing the right thing, that are working hard and doing the best they can. This is a root parasite in the system.

Starting point is 00:26:05 And it's almost like, I heard this the other day, well, the system's not working, but maybe the system's working too good, right? Which direction is it? Like maybe this is the design of the system. The system was designed to put us in this situation. United States has been spending the most money on medical care. Yet we have the highest rate of obesity.

Starting point is 00:26:30 We have the highest rate of all diseases that are based on metabolic functions, right? We have diabetes and lymphomas and cancers and heart disease and all of these exotic diseases that are popping up. It's insane. We lead the charts in all of that, yet we spend the most money on medical services. And at the same time, we have a fractured communication

Starting point is 00:26:54 between groups that are advocating for the same thing, but they're completely misaligned in communication. So many groups are doing different things and doing things different ways without really the meeting of the minds and the meeting of the hearts. What you're seeing is people that are left in their own divisives, not knowing what to do, and they've handed their power over to a system that's not supporting it. So what do we do here? How do we get back to sovereignty? My whole thing is, and I know your whole thing is because you're one of the best students of life, is that we got to take ownership of our entire ethos. What we put on our body, what we put on our body, what we live in, our experience,

Starting point is 00:27:35 or you could just have that laissez-faire mentality and just says, you know what, whatever, I'm just going to escape every day. And then we get into escapism, which is a luciferic tendency. And it's an extreme version of luciferic. That's why they feed off each other, right? So you have that aromonic, you know, just flesh and bone, this and that. And then you can't live in the body because the body's dying. And you feel it dying because people are sick out there. They're riddled with heavy metals.

Starting point is 00:28:03 They're riddled with poisons. Their bodies are breaking down. They have metabolic disease. I would say 80, 90% of the population have some form of liver disease. I've been going deep on liver stuff. I've been talking this for a long time, but I'm looking at pathology reports. It's incredible. You could have a liver that's 90% fibrotic and you still don't, you could be asymptomatic. And asymptomatic meaning that you're not laying on your back dying, but you're still losing functions of so many things that the liver is controlling. So people right now are struggling emotionally,

Starting point is 00:28:38 physically, spiritually. And the best thing that they do, not that they can do, but they do is escape. And so that again, takes us into the hyper looping of not being present. And if you're escaping while you have a sick body, you don't have a lot of time left. If you're escaping while in a sick body, you're not helping the cause at all. And you're not helping anyone around you. And so we've become a society that is just in this state of falling apart emotionally,

Starting point is 00:29:07 physically, mentally, spiritually, financially. What the hell does the next generation going to look like? And we're in that generation lost right now. We've forgotten what we've forgotten. This is why people like you that are so obsessed with learning the ancient traditions, learning the old cultures, learning the ways that the indigenous were doing things, because those are the root, those are the root actions and the root behavioral patterns and the root consciousnesses that can take us into freedom.

Starting point is 00:29:36 And that's what, isn't that what this state is all about over here, this Texas state, Tejas? It's about freedom, right? I can feel it when I got off the plane here compared to California. I was walking and two or three people recognized me. They're like, oh, Sherry, what? You're in Austin? Just randomly. And they're like, thank you for standing in your truth. Appreciate that. I recognize that.

Starting point is 00:30:00 And how many people actually recognize that? Because most people don't even recognize the truth within themselves they can't even look in the mirror most people in california don't even have their eyebrows raised as to uh uh generators being made out outlawed yeah right what why what because the carbon footprint because the carbon fucking gas generator that's unbelievable that's where you know there's long been a debate for those who become first aware of the events happening in the world what is the end game right is it just money well it's really easy if you follow the money um uh foster foster gamble yeah foster gamble and kimberly um who did thrive and andrive 2, they talk about that.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Follow the money. The paper trail will always lead you there, right? Yeah. But they know, as well as Ike, as well as we do, that it begins to look a little bit more nefarious than just a money grab. Yeah. That's the tool.

Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah. The longer you get there, the more you say like, all right, if you have all the money in the world, why would you keep going? Well, A, greed has no satisfiable limit. No bounds. Power, the same, right? And I think I brought this up on one of the podcasts, you know, like greed, you know,

Starting point is 00:31:15 would be the shadow side of the archetype of abundance. And power at the expense of others is the shadow side of power. Power that empowers others is the light side of the archetype of power. Amit Goswami, who's a PhD, wrote many great books, The Science or The Physics of God. And he wrote Quantum Spirituality. And he talked in Quantum Spirituality about these six fundamental archetypes.

Starting point is 00:31:38 Those two stood out to me. Power and abundance are two universal archetypes along with love that everyone experiences and everyone goes through, right? And we see this power play. I mean, no overhype, World War III. But it is a war of spirit. It's a war of the minds.

Starting point is 00:31:56 It's a war in what we believe. And that, you know, from a, we could talk all day. I love bringing Steiner up because he understood so much so long ago. And I love learning from the indigenous because they never lost that connection with nature. They didn't have a word for nature because they weren't separate from it.

Starting point is 00:32:15 So these people lived in harmony. They were stewards. Yeah, they lived in harmony. They didn't own it. Right? Yeah. That's the root of everything you're talking about, whether the power, the love, all that stuff, that's the ego, right? And Steiner's whole thing is it's the ego that's

Starting point is 00:32:29 going to destroy everything. You know, it's the ego of we have to, this is ours. This is mine. It's my way. This is how it's done. No other, no other reason. Manifest destiny. Manifest destiny, right? And that is the, we've hit critical mass with that. I mean, we're at critical mass with just about every system that's been put into place right now. Everything is at its limit and it's starting to falter a little bit. And you're even having the big guys,

Starting point is 00:33:00 the big money guys are seeing that. We're getting off the fiat. We're getting off certain Fiat. We're getting off certain things. We're adjusting here and there. The food systems are falling apart. The food systems. I mean, come on. It's, it's insane. What's happening. All of this is happening right here in front, front street. And it's like, how many people want to step in and get involved and be part of this? Or how many people just want to isolate? It goes back to that whole religious thing too.

Starting point is 00:33:28 It's like a lot of people, they don't even care about here. They're ready to ascend somewhere else. Yeah, and that would be the shadow of Lucifer. That is Lucifer. Get me out of here. Take me to the fifth dimension. I'm tired of this place. What do I got to do?

Starting point is 00:33:42 What do I got to do to graduate and go to heaven? This is my last life here. I'm tired of this place. What do I got to do? What do I got to do to graduate and go to heaven? This is my last life here. I'm not really... So it can come in a spiritual 5D, that kind of perspective, new age perspective. And also can come from a Christian perspective of the rapture's coming and they're going to take us all off into heaven.

Starting point is 00:34:02 And this, where we're at today, Texas becomes hell. Like, you know, that's a lot. That's a lot. You know, if there's a big portion of the population that are running on that kind of mentality. Two billion people. Two billion people. If two billion people think that, you know,

Starting point is 00:34:20 the majority of the population are going to sit here and rot in this physical manifestation we call earth, whatever this dimension is, and that a certain group are going to ascend. The visions of paradise here are disappearing. There's no point to re-till the soil, to plant food, to create better systems, to align with people,

Starting point is 00:34:49 to compromise with people. When it's so hard-lined, you create that division and nothing gets done. And trust me, whoever they are, this is perfect for them. That separation is everything in their doctrine because then you can manage both sides. If you had to predict the score of a game, let's say you want to bet $10 billion on a game and you want to get the exact score right, you got to make sure you got your coaches on both sides. Yep, and the refs.

Starting point is 00:35:22 And the refs, all of them, trilateral. And you can dictate everything. And you can dictate the weather too. Yep, and the refs. And the refs. All of them, trilateral. And you can dictate everything. And you can dictate the weather too. Yes, you can. Dane Wigington showed that. That's right, dimmer. I would do it. I'm getting hit with cedar fever.

Starting point is 00:35:35 And I'm also getting hit with a bunch of petrochemicals and particulates. They were going berserk last night here in the sky. I was just looking at it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every day. Every day, I see that. And it's funny because Bear can see it. And once you see it, you don't unsee it. You can't unsee it. A lot of people are like, look, I've had conversations with you personally in particular. So if the listener is wondering, and if the listener is a parent and you're wondering,

Starting point is 00:35:59 how do I bridge the gap to my kid? Look, there's no right way to do that. I talked to you because David had introduced you to Ike's work at 12 and it fucked you up for a long period of time. It was your father. It was your father that really gave you the option. Like, yeah, you can go down that rabbit hole and it can be true or you can choose to live a different way.

Starting point is 00:36:20 You remember that. That's beautiful, brother. Massive, right? And that's your dad who was one of the most important people in your life, really speaking to you. And it touched you in a way that it touches me now as a father in how I work with Bear.

Starting point is 00:36:33 Brother, that means a lot. Yeah, brother. But when Bear wants to know, why is my aluminum high? Why do we have to have this spray at night before bed? There's a fucking reason. And I'm not going to lie about that. That's not santa used to think it was santa claus going around santa's sleigh and i was like well there's

Starting point is 00:36:50 multiple santas right now dropping diamonds pearls which one's santa there's four of them in the air right now just transmutate it yeah all you gotta do is believe it cancel delete if i just believe it santa uh the universe will show up that way. You can't namaste five trillion tons of petrochemicals and toxins and neurotoxins. I love what you said, though. My father gave me that choice, but he did it in such a soft, pragmatic way, where he didn't take it away from me. He just offered me a different experience.

Starting point is 00:37:26 And I think that's finding balance. I think that's what we need to do. We need to find balance with our lives. Are we telling everyone to jump out of their life right now and go hit the jungles and join us and collaborate? Maybe, but at the same time, you need to find balance because if you're trying to swing the pendulum so fast, you're going to bounce off and it's going to fishtail. And we need to find balance. And that's,

Starting point is 00:37:48 again, that always brings me back to health. You know what I mean? It's like everything I do, and this is why Symbotica is Symbotica, everything that I do, every subject that we talk about, whether it's esoteric stuff, whether it's government stuff, whether it's political stuff, whether it's all this crazy stuff around the world, it all comes back to health. It all comes back to our relationship with our physiology. It all comes back to our relationship of loving ourself and looking ourselves in the mirror and deciding, am I worthy to take care of? That's really at the core fundamental truth of it all. Because if you're not fundamentally taking care of yourself and loving yourself truthfully,

Starting point is 00:38:30 forget about everything else. We don't need you. I don't want no part of that because we can't take on the sick and the tired and the weak. We can only take on souls that are ready to take care of themselves first. And I don't mean that. I mean that in the most beautiful, respectful, reverence way of your path and journey. And forget all the other stuff. Take care of the emotional, physical body and everything else will set free. I wholeheartedly agree with that. And that's actually one of the saving graces for me in the alchemy of my dark night of the soul, December of 2020. Toad.

Starting point is 00:39:08 The toad medicine that reactivated for 17 nights. You know, the checkster dug me out of that hole and then I continued to process pretty much all year long. I waited eight months before any journey. And then I've only had, you know, a small handful of them that year. Some of them very challenging, but, you know but in those that understanding

Starting point is 00:39:27 of to be the change you wish to see in the world always starts right here. And if God is just the divine mirror and whatever I truly believe and know it as, and if I'm not separate from that, then how do I know myself? If I wanna know God is love, I have to love myself as a prerequisite. If I want to know perfect health, I have to do the necessary steps

Starting point is 00:39:53 to bring that about my being. Yes. Right. You cannot live in a perfectly healthy world if I'm sick. And there's zero chance of that, right? There's an increased chance if I'm healthy in an unhealthy world to raise the frequency of health with all those around me. And I think that's the mission we've both been on. Let's talk about that. I mean, you've, and I do want to dive into CNN and all this funny shit that's going on,

Starting point is 00:40:17 but it's likely just, you know, you got a lot of good practices that keep you fucking grounded. But yeah, mainstream is mainstream. Let's break down for people. What are some of your core tenants of things, you know, on the health mission? One of the most fantastic things that you ever mentioned was in our first podcast. You said in any habit change, in anything, and it's January now, a lot of people want to instill new habits. You said momentum is the number one most important factor.

Starting point is 00:40:47 I fucking love that. I still think about it. I say it like it's in me. Like that fucking burned a hole in me. I love it. Fuck yeah. Momentum is exactly what we need in order to get from A to Z.

Starting point is 00:41:02 So anytime that we feel like we're sputtering in life, if you can emotionally connect to the things that you've done to bring value to your life, you automatically can feel those physiological responses. Like they've actually studied this. Just that's how strong the mind is. You know, that's the whole placebo, nocebo. Just the emotional connection to the experience,

Starting point is 00:41:22 past or present, can bring on the same chemical alchemy in the body as if you're just doing it in that moment. And so momentum is what am I doing in my reality? So I always go, okay, let me look at the last week. Let's make it simple. Forget about the last two months, six months, a year, Gregorian calendar bullshit. Let's just look at the last week. What have I done in the last week that either takes me closer to my goal or takes me away from my goal? Is there addition by subtraction? I think for momentum to work, you have to clear that which does not serve you. First and foremost, it's not adding on this glutathione drip or this

Starting point is 00:42:03 ice chamber or this XYZ or these radical exotic stuff. That stuff comes after you're ready to bust through a new plateau. You got to make layers and you got to get going. Are you getting up with the sunrise? Are you doing your gratitude prayers on the rise that are meaningful to you? Not to me, but to you. And you've written them yourself and you've put a lot of thought in. How much discipline are you using every single day towards your craft? There's a reason why the ancient yogis that are famous, that we know, did the work that they did. They weren't just lunatics meditating for 30 years in a cave or doing practices like standing like a tree for two

Starting point is 00:42:44 hours a day for five years straight. No, there was a reason, there was a method to their madness. And that method is what creates stability in their ability to recall those types of powers in moments of stress, in moments of need. Because if you don't have the framework developed within your physiology from things that you're practicing, whether it's your martial arts, whether it's your breath work, whether it's whatever it is, you can't rely on that when time gets tough. That's why I'm up butt crack of dawn every single day. I'm getting my naked body in front of the sun.

Starting point is 00:43:22 I'm putting my feet grounded onto the earth. I get into the ocean and I do my swim. I come back. I do my infrared sauna. I do my readings. I have everything set from the night before. I drink my salt water. I drink my Shilajit.

Starting point is 00:43:35 I have things in place. So my body gets acclimated to a system. And these are things that are helping me. These are things that feel good. I get euphoria from them. My body releases dopamine and serotonin and anandamide and all bliss molecules and all these different things. So I have momentum going. Now with that momentum, now I can take on something new. And I don't just wing it. I actually prepare for it. These are the disciplines that develop a healthy mind, body, spirit, and ego, and then allow you to go and build a company and allow you to go

Starting point is 00:44:12 and become successful and allow you to go and connect with people that are running on your same operational level. I also, you know, I just, I cut out people that I just can't flow with. It's simple as that. I just don't have the time. I'm working 12, 13 hours a day sometimes, and I can't just hang. It is what it is. This is momentum building because we have to be efficient with our time in these bodies. Rumi said it. Our life here is a drop of ocean in the infinite of time. We think we're forever. Our souls are. I believe that. But in this physical reality, we have to make sure we're efficient with everything we're doing from the water we're drinking to the water we're bathing in to the supplements we're using to the food that we're eating. We can't just wing these things because they hurt us long-term and they take

Starting point is 00:44:59 chips and they take chunks out of us. And by the time you're in your mid-30s, mid-40s and stuff like that, how many chunks do you have left? Right? And that's why I fast two days a week consistently now. And that's why I do intermittent fasting. That's why I have weeks where I don't eat at all. And it's all just eating up all the stuff in my body that does not serve me anymore.

Starting point is 00:45:22 And I get into autophagy and I activate sirtuins and I go down these pathways. I'm like you. You're one of the few people that I feel meets me in terms of intelligence and meets me in terms of a thirst and fire for knowledge. That's a gift, my friend. And anyone listening to this right now, that's your savior in this reality. Or you can just escape your entire life. And then when the going gets tough, you either get something cut out of you from a surgeon, or they put you on some kind of drug. It's as simple as that. Our health span is what we make of it. All diseases, almost 98% of diseases are based on epigenetics and environmental factors in the way that we live our life. It's not some mutated genetic thing.

Starting point is 00:46:11 One and a half percent, 2% are genetic things that we can't control, but we can also mitigate them if we're doing things properly to a certain degree. And so we are the master magicians of our reality. We're the ones that control everything and we have to get our power back. And that's, again, that's why my message,

Starting point is 00:46:28 if you're on my social media, that's pretty much 99% of everything I talk about is sovereignty, is freedom. And again, that's a Steiner thing. And I was thinking the other day, biodynamic farming, healthy physique, it's sexy physique, aesthetics, financial freedom. These are all side effects of doing things that you love to do. Now, let me explain. Biodynamic farming,

Starting point is 00:46:54 in my opinion, and there's a lot of permaculture out there that run in similar principles, so I'm not isolating biodynamics, but biodynamics produces the most mineralized, nutrient-dense food in the world. But Steiner didn't create biodynamics or configure it with all of his teachings for that. He did it so it can become the meditation and spiritual process to develop faculties within the human soul in the process of understanding biodynamics

Starting point is 00:47:28 and man's relationship to the cosmos and to the earth. That is a very, very poignant thing that you have to understand here is that biodynamics wasn't to make good food. It was to make the man making the food. That is, You with me? Yeah. And when you're in your abundance codes,

Starting point is 00:47:51 the side effect is making financial money, whatever means it is, cryptocurrency, fiat, whatever. The side effect of doing what you love to do and being passionate about is that. The side effect of you loving to take care of yourself, you loving to feel the power of being the man of the family, the protector, you loving the idea of becoming superhuman in so many ways, the side effect is having a physique like Kyle's,

Starting point is 00:48:17 right? Your physique is the side effect, is the afterthought, reaction, the causality of your cause of wanting to be the best that you can be. You're not over there like, oh, how am I going to get the best abs so I can... My left serratus is not as developed as my right serratus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been doing those forearm wrist curls at the end of the bench.

Starting point is 00:48:42 Right, right. When you're 15. Of course. I need bigger forearms. I want to look like Popeye. Donkey calf raise. Right, right. When you're 15. Of course. I need bigger forearms. I want to look like Popeye. Donkey calf raise. Donkey calf raise. Concentration curl.

Starting point is 00:48:49 All that shit's been long gone. All that aesthetic stuff is a perfect anomaly. Like how healthy are those guys that are doing those prep contests that are eating like, you know, they're fluctuating their water systems and their salt pumps and eating chicken and broccoli all day long.

Starting point is 00:49:04 They don't last long. No, they don't. They fall apart. Their thyroid's gone. I mean, it's like their reproductive organs are just getting shot. Brain retardation. I mean, it's insane. That's doing that for that reason.

Starting point is 00:49:16 Now, I'm not judging. This is not a judge. Everyone has the right to do whatever the hell they want to do. This is a moment of discernment. This is stepping back and observing these actions and these behaviors and these forms of consciousness and seeing what is the end game here and what kind of results do you have

Starting point is 00:49:37 that affect an optimal living life of happiness, love, compassion, empathy, and connection to something greater than us, something that's so beyond comprehensible. And again, that is the root of health. Health is a living, breathing ecosystem of dynamic thoughts and emotions and love and curtailing all these different endogenous

Starting point is 00:50:01 and exogenous stuff that are coming and flowing in and out of us. It's a myriad of poetry. And that is what life is. It's your poetry and your dance. It's just who's dictating that. When you wake up every day, where are those thoughts coming from?

Starting point is 00:50:17 Is it the starved ego? Is it the thoughts of a traumatic childhood? Is it the thoughts of a traumatic news that's blasting you every single day? Is it your partner? Is it your thoughts of a traumatic news that's blasting you every single day? Is it your partner? Is it your friends? Are you in a network that's just constantly filled with judgment and fear and you have to be a certain way, you have to act a certain way? You really got to like step back and just like, what the fuck am I doing here? What is my purpose here? When it's all said and done. Yeah, brother. Absolutely. You brought up so much. I mean,

Starting point is 00:50:43 I'm thinking of Steiner as like the man being the antenna that connects heaven and earth. That's right. Right? Like I'm thinking of that and I'm thinking like, yeah, that is. And it's not even him. And he openly talks about it.

Starting point is 00:50:54 It's like, this is not me. I'm just channeling. The great knowledge is coming through. Yeah, it's coming through. It's connection to spirit. At the end of the day, there is one. That's right. So when you come from the high source,

Starting point is 00:51:04 you know, all of them, whether it's Dr. Wayne Dyer, I know you had his daughters on the podcast. It's coming through. It's coming through. And I'm thinking about the aesthetics piece. When you're talking about poetry, I've often said to the dismay of some people who don't quite get it that my body is a work of art. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:23 And that's the least egoic thing that I do in a day. And I joke about forearm curls and all that shit. How I move my ability to move freely dictates my own viewing of the art that is Kyle Kingsbury. And so for example, when I've gone really heavy into powerlifting or really focused on jiu-jitsu or really focused on certain aspects, if it diminishes my ability to move freely, and perfect example, you're going to see later when you're hanging with Jamie and the kids, if I dance stiff with my kids who can fucking move like Gumby, oh, that's an issue. Something is either energetically or literally physically impeding me from having my full range,

Starting point is 00:52:07 from having my full range of expression, my full range of flow. And it came to me in a mushroom journey where I saw nothing wrong with being sore, nothing wrong with pushing yourself as a professional athlete or otherwise. But if I was chronically sore and chronically beat up, there was a tightness in my physical structure.

Starting point is 00:52:24 And that tightness in my physical structure. And that tightness in my physical structure gave me a tightness in my mental emotional attitude towards life, right? Like I didn't have much compassion. I wasn't softening for my son. I was a little bit harder on the surface to him. You know, and the greater I opened that, you know, like open your heart.

Starting point is 00:52:41 It's like, well, literally, if I fucking do some down dog, up dog and open up my physical being and beat myself up less, find some type of sustainability through practices like easy strengths from Pavel to, you know, not sparring at 110%, but hitting the bag and working some mitts and then dancing around doing some, some, some Thai level sparring, you know, theai guys spar fucking all the time they fight every weekend they never spar hard right can i spar like that can i do something that's more sustainable which then allows me the full freedom of expression to where now as i move i don't need medicine to crack me open to

Starting point is 00:53:22 where i am not worried about what other people think of me. I'm just floating, like the music moves me, you know? And it can sound woo-woo as fuck, but when you hit that, when you're at an ecstatic dance or when you're at a rave or when you're at a festival and you have the right concert of chemistry going through your body, whether endogenous or exogenous or a combination, and you move in a certain way, it's like something, some piece of you gets unlocked. You remember, holy shit, this is the freedom I had as a child. And when that gets embodied in the adult meat suit, that's the thing you want to keep. That's the thing you fight for.

Starting point is 00:54:00 Totally. What you just said is exactly what Steiner says. I'm going to paraphrase it, but he says something on the lines that right totally i mean what you just said is exactly what steiner says it's he's i'm gonna paraphrase it but he says something on the lines that um man becomes adult and through adulthood loses his child when losing his child he loses his health all right because you're you're you're Because you've become rigid. You've become harmonic. You've become Philistine, calcified. We've lost the suppleness. And the suppleness and the juiciness of childhood is the health.

Starting point is 00:54:39 Now, he's saying that even as an adult, you can still, if you embody the child spirit, you're staying the same. The spirit, as long as the spirit stays the same, like your hair can turn white or whatever, but your spirit's still there, you're still in that supple frequency. And that's, I just find that so fascinating

Starting point is 00:54:59 because like you, after my toad experience, I became a child. I went right back down to being eight, nine years young. And I haven't changed. Of course, there's moments where we got to put our bridges up and big boy pants on. But

Starting point is 00:55:15 me and I, we'll still wear our Daisy Dukes. You know what I mean? What's that all about? We just want to show off our ass and our thighs and our legs? No, we're still childlike. There's probably something to that. We want to stay in that frequency and that energy. And maybe we can't get serious all the time. Maybe it's that seriousness that creates lack of circulation, lack of blood flow. we're in modern mechanistic world right now.

Starting point is 00:55:45 This is not, this wasn't the design that was laid forth. You know, we're chopped up in so many different micro realities, especially with the advent of technology. You and I, at our age right now, you know, we grew up without smartphones. You know, I didn't, I wasn't a kid at five years old looking at an iPad. You know what I mean? I was out in the canyons burning shit and catching lizards and snakes and riding around with the homies on our BMX bikes

Starting point is 00:56:12 and terrorizing the neighborhoods. That was my reality, surfing every single day and living a beach life and being connected to the experience, which again is a biodynamic principle. Don't be landlocked inside a square house. Have the presence and ability to flow and grow and integrate everything that's around us. That's how you build faculties and empathy, which is the main one. And so I think a lot of reverse engineering would be beneficial for people to start looking outside of the, you know, just kind of the common perspective of what life is supposed to be like today. Why is it supposed

Starting point is 00:56:51 to be like this? How have we forgotten what we've forgotten? Where can we rub the amnesia off on certain things and start getting back to our own primal self? I go, I always think, okay, a child's, wow, I have a friend of mine, he's like, oh, my five-year-old can open up this app and do this and do all these things. That's impressive. I always think though, like, okay, if that's where the mind has gone for the five-year-old, what other parts of the mind and spirit are not developing?

Starting point is 00:57:22 What faculties are getting robbed because of this? And I can think of thousands. And that's something that right now, people that are our age, a lot of people that have been robbed of those faculties. And it's no wonder why they're giving their power away. And please give me something every you know, every day. Every day, it's like sharing. What can I take for this? What can I take for that? Still thinking of the magic bullet.

Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, the magic bullet. And it's so easy for me to be like, oh, to take this complex form of zinc that we offer, it's mixed with two types of copper, you know, amazing stuff. But I'm not in a position to do that. I don't do that. I go, we got to get to the root. We got to get into the, like, how did you get here? Like, why are you here? Where do you want to go? You know, it's not this one thing, you know, sometimes, you know, what's

Starting point is 00:58:18 coming up for me right now. And I want to just further, um further have empathy for listeners that are like, I mean, the thing that's coming up for me intuitively is that before I kind of hit that movement in my body where something was unlocked and I remembered moving like that, like, holy shit, I don't know if it was 20 years, 30 years, how long had gone by since I moved that freely.

Starting point is 00:58:43 When you don't know what's gone, it's hard to look for the thing, right? And sometimes we do stumble upon it through a peak experience. Other times we have a general idea of like the thing we like, you know, like Godsey, who's a dear brother of mine, he's co-presenting with me

Starting point is 00:59:03 at our first immersive service at the end of this month. He's talking about, damn it, where was I going with Godsey? We had embodiment of the dance, people that don't know until it's there. Instant gratification, supplements. They need help with this. Fucker. It's's there. Instant gratification, supplements. They need help with this. Fucker. It's right there.

Starting point is 00:59:30 It'll come to me. The magnesium L-threonate, the brain magnesium can help you with that. It totally could. Yeah, but when you don't know what's missing, sometimes you can find it. And then other times, okay. One of the things he teaches through Jung is that people always ask us, and I'm sure they ask you

Starting point is 00:59:48 the same fucking questions. How do I know if my ego's in the driver's seat or if my soul is? How do I know if it's the high self that's talking to me? How do I know if I'm listening to my daemon? And one of the things is there is a differentiator, right? But you literally, it's the thing you desire, right? And if it's an authentic desire that leaves you more whole than when you literally, it's the thing you desire. And if it's an authentic desire that leaves you more whole than when you started, if it's not paid for on credit, and I talk about that with drugs, cocaine's a bad drug.

Starting point is 01:00:13 Why? Because you pay for a good time on credit. You always feel like shit after, no matter what. You're paying for it on credit. Ayahuasca, when done to the right set and setting, not the case. It leaves you more whole than when you started. You might have to pay as you go.

Starting point is 01:00:27 It might not be pleasant, but it leaves you more whole than when you started. When with the right set and setting, right? So I think of that as kind of a rule of thumb and the same can be said of desire. If we may not know like the peak dance experience that we've been missing, but we may know like, I feel fucking great in nature.

Starting point is 01:00:43 I should be in nature more. People say shit like that. I should go to the ocean more. I should take a vacation. And then it becomes the thing where, like, I'm only going to experience that. So I guess it's an authentic desire would leave us more whole than we started,

Starting point is 01:00:57 spending more time in nature. An inauthentic desire would be something like, I want to eat this fucking Twinkie because I deserve it. And then what is that? That's paid for on credit. That has a cost that's added afterwards, right? Does not leave you more whole than when you started. And those are really, you know, low-hanging fruit, if you will,

Starting point is 01:01:13 low-hanging Twinkies. Yes. Following desire to the thing that you know is good for you and then bridging the gap, right? Like Ike says, when you know the end game, it's easy to see the totalitarian tiptoe. If we're going to do the same in remodeling health and wellness, each person's individual journey is going to look different.

Starting point is 01:01:32 But it's their desire to their favorite things. If they know camping was awesome, I want to do that. Or I didn't, you know, last time I went fishing was with my dad. It was when I was 20. I should probably take bear fishing again. And then bridging those gaps smaller and smaller so that we can make a little deposit into the nature jar every single day. Momentum. Yeah, exactly, brother. Momentum, right? Well, why are we not doing that? Why do we keep from doing that which we know is good for us? Why aren't we

Starting point is 01:02:02 listening to the good doctor in our mind? Why do we need to have an outside force tell us what to do? Where did we lose that? Is that something that we were bred into through childhood? We weren't allowed to do what we wanted to do because we were afraid to do it. Were we governed by this broad-based school system that's all about being on time here, getting this work done and doing this stuff

Starting point is 01:02:29 and not being able to talk about things you wanna talk about and express things and have different perspectives and different views. This whole thing, what you're talking about, in my opinion, is just how we've been basically trained as children. We've been trained to avoid that which we think is best for us. A lot of kids have been robbed of their own inner faculty. And Steiner says, it's your intuition

Starting point is 01:02:54 that's going to pave the way for happiness. It's following the intuition that's going to allow you to break free of old karma. It's your intuition that's going to allow you to become sovereign. And so everything you just said right there is light up to perfection on that level. So we got to get back to our, we got to start flexing and training that intuitive muscle. And how do we do that? There's principles and there's practices to do that. And I do them every day. I'm working on how do I master my intuition? I think that's going to be a book that I'm going to be writing. I'm working on that right now.

Starting point is 01:03:27 I have the subcontext of it and I've been breaking it down. I've also been working on the Aramon book and also a book called 300, excuse me, 333. It's going to be like a Rolodex book where you can flip to any page and you're picking up some cool nuance. Fuck yeah. How cool is that?

Starting point is 01:03:49 I can't wait for any of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know where you're going to fit it into your fucking schedule right now. Ghost writers. Hell yeah. But I already feel like the 333 has already been written. I've already done like 1,000 million different announcements on things that could be quick fix and stuff like that. But talk about intuition. Let's break down the path to intuitive knowing.

Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah. So something happens where we start turning off the inner consciousness of communication. Something happens in the day. Something happens last week, something happened last year, something happened when we were 12, something happened when we were five, that we have a voice within us, which is communicating to us at light speed and telling our heart and our gut how to feel about certain things. And then somewhere at some point, that communication to the mind to create action and movement and behavioral patterns got just got disfragmented. We stopped trusting it. We were worried to trust it. And we became into this mentality that we are ultimately wrong about so many things.

Starting point is 01:05:00 And that has led us into giving up our power. And that's a common trait with today's modern school system. That's a big part of school systems is telling you you're wrong, telling you you're not right. This is the way, this is the history, this is what happened here, this is the story, this is how you're going to understand it. And if you speak anything outside of that, you're a lunatic, you're a jerk, you're a dummy, you're all of these like attack words. You need medication. You need medication. You're, you know, this and that, and you can see it with what's happening right now in the world, you know, with all of this stuff with, you know, this whole, you know, what, I don't even like

Starting point is 01:05:43 talking about it, but just the whole health situation that we're dealing with. It's like, if you have a different spin on, hey, maybe my body develops antibodies and that I have an innate immune system and that I have a terrain inside my inner ecosystem that can take on and work with these outside entities and create balance within them.

Starting point is 01:06:06 Maybe that's possible, which it is, and we know that. But nope, nope, you're crazy, you're a lunatic. Maybe infection is the greatest immunity. By far, hands down, not even close. You know, like that's how, that's being human, is integrating. I mean, we could do a whole series on the microbiota, you know, and talk about, you know, how, what's actually happening down there and what systems are operating down there outside of human mammalian cells.

Starting point is 01:06:34 And that we just have such a diverse world down there that perhaps there is, I mean, not perhaps. Check is one of the first people that taught me that and how to eat, move, and be healthy, that any and all stress when left long enough and undealt with will become dis-ease within the body. There's a physical manifestation even to work or relationship-related stress. 100%. Non-physical stressors, only mental-emotional, will create physical dis-ease in the body if left there long enough. That's right.

Starting point is 01:07:09 So when we speak to things like intuition, what severs that cord? If your microbiome is off, what's generating that feeling? 80% of certain very important neurochemistry comes from the production of the microbiome. 80% of serotonin or 70% to 90% of certain things important neurochemistry comes from the production of the microbiome. 80% of serotonin or 70 to 90% of certain things. Dopamine, I mean, some of the most important- And immune response systems and immune cells

Starting point is 01:07:33 and T cells and natural killer cells and all of these things that are there to support us and to keep us healthy and robust all come from that emotional capacity. So if you sever that, you're severing all that. And that's interesting because I did a post a couple weeks ago and I was like, I'm not even surprised we're in the state of affairs we're in.

Starting point is 01:07:52 If you take a look at the average human body and the ecosystem within and the biochemistry within, I'm surprised it's not way worse than where we're at. That just speaks to the resiliency. Exactly. The spirit is strong. Really? The spirit is strong. And there are people that are holding this down, or holding the line, so to speak. But the average consumer out there on a worldwide demographic, their entire biochemistry doesn't even give them the opportunity to develop a faculty of intuition.

Starting point is 01:08:27 That's how wild it is. We don't even have the resiliency through the compounds that create structure in the body. If you have someone that's been bathing in fluoride and chlorinated water their entire life, they're eating a standard American diet. They've gone through maybe two, three rounds, a hundred rounds of antibiotics. They've been- I had fucking six rounds a year for a decade. You had six rounds a year for- A decade. Yeah, there you go. So you can speak from it on terms of what that did to you in terms of your

Starting point is 01:08:57 emotional self, the spirit, right? And this is perfect because Steiner says all disease is some form of psychosis. Disease starts in the mind, whether it's cancer or heart disease or diabetes, metabolic disease, it's in the mind. That makes sense, right? Because if the mind is not functioning properly, the mind is not making the right decisions. If you're not making the right decisions, you're not using discernment. If you're not using discernment, you're throwing darts blindfolded. And in a world today, with all of the amount of stressors we have, psychological warfare, spiritual warfare, financial warfare, poverty conscious, scarcity mentality, petrochemicals,

Starting point is 01:09:50 toxins in our food and water supply, toxins in the medical system, pharmaceutical drugs, over-the-counter drugs, herbicide, fungicide, larvicide, insecticide. I can go on and on and on. Glyphosate, things that are destroyed. Plastics, fire retardants. Fire retardants, bromine.

Starting point is 01:10:04 I can go on with billions of this stuff, right? Trihalomethanes. I can go on and on. Plastics, xenotoxins, the estrogen dominance. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. So we have all of that. And then the human faculty, the psychosis has kicked in. We never had a chance.

Starting point is 01:10:21 We never had a chance. So the fact that we're here right now, and if you're listening to me and Kyle, just rapping about this shit right now, hallelujah. There's a reason you're hearing us right now. This is not chance. This is not random.

Starting point is 01:10:37 I can actually give you a full-on algebraic slash calculus statistical analysis that if you're listening to us right now, it can't be random. It's empirically impossible. that if you're listening to us right now, it can't be random. It's empirically impossible. So if you're a science person and you're all about that scientism and that's your new faith religion,

Starting point is 01:10:52 we can actually show you that the fact that you're listening to us talk about this right now, it's not random. And there's a reason you're listening to this. And this is maybe upgrading you epigenetically as we speak right now to start looking into things into your lifestyle and your emotional response systems and your intuitive

Starting point is 01:11:08 power so you can take hold of your life and start making choices that help you and your family, as opposed to escaping more and going, getting more bitter, getting more angry. And like, you know, Dr. Bruce Lipton says, you know, the biology of belief, you know, every thought and emotion dictates your health. It's the same thing that if you look at empirical data with, you know, Dr. Sinclair, you know, we have a health span. And then as soon as you leave the health span, you enter the disease span. Once you're in the disease span, good luck trying to get out. Because the only way that you can do that is getting back into the mind and the emotional spirit. It's not going to work with some allopathic treatment.

Starting point is 01:11:50 Allopathic treatment is not going to do it. We can't mask symptoms anymore. We've been masking symptoms forever. We've been driving out of Italian hypercar dealerships, Pagani or Lamborghini, driving on PCH, check engine lights come on. We've been putting black duct tape over the check engine lights. It's fine.

Starting point is 01:12:11 I don't think it will change yet. It's a $12 million car. Let me just put the duct tape over it. That would be considered insanity, right? You have a $12 million car. You have check engine lights come on, and you're putting duct tape over it. I have heard that's how they do it in some of the countries in Southwest Asia.

Starting point is 01:12:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good call. But your mind and body is infinitely more important than a $12 million car. What are we doing? Every time our body signals a pain to us or a fear or an emotional response, or we have a heart tremor or our stomach hurts or we're having acid reflux, what do we do? We take over the counter stuff

Starting point is 01:12:56 and we say, stop talking to us. I don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna hear it. And we do that with every facet of our life. We're blinding ourselves from the truth, the infinite truth. So help you God. And that's why it's something like ayahuasca

Starting point is 01:13:09 or 5-MeO or any of these radical medicines are on the exact opposite end of that. That's how I look at, I was interested when I was looking at like medicine stuff, I was like, oh, that's polar opposite of escapism. You can't escape. And then- Dive deepism. Yeah. Yeah. It's deepism. Write that down. It's in there. So I love that. It's deepism. And that's why if you're in deepism and you try to escape, you're fucked. Right? That's how you, the Wateco, right? That's how you go-

Starting point is 01:13:44 You can't turn it off you cannot turn it off oh man we just the the power of our discussion is fucking with the electrical system right now yeah right this is good i'm trying my hardest not to sneeze this entire conversation i'm on i'm on that like you know when you're like it's like right there. I'm one stage below that. It's just like, it's like causing me to squint. It's like, it's like that tingle. It's freaking, it's powerful, man. Because this is, I'm sitting in this frustration of every part of my body right now. It feels like it's watering and burning and stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:14:20 It's like a, like a, what is it? Like a kingpin when he's like, he's got one foot in the pressure cooker and one foot in the firing pan. And one foot in the firing pan, and his butt feels like it's... Ernie McCracken? Yep, yep. Do you mind?

Starting point is 01:14:33 I wasn't talking during your... Oh, man. Oh, sorry. Good luck. We just watched Kingpin, and there's a lot of jewels in that movie. Massive, massive. But I'm imagining your face feeling like that, the about-to- of jewels in that movie. That's massive. That's just what,

Starting point is 01:14:48 but I'm imagining your face feeling like that's about to explode. Brought worse. That's that's right. That's right. About to explode. Brought worst. Oh man. That's a good one.

Starting point is 01:14:54 Well, I mean, look, we don't, I want, I want to fucking hang with you guys as much as possible off podcast. I know you've got, no, this was,

Starting point is 01:15:00 this was fantastic going on. It always is. Is there anything you want to leave the listener with? What are you guys creating? I mean, we didn't even get a chance to talk CNN. You want to talk that or you want to save it for another time? I say we save it for another time. But we could just say this is that, as you guys know,

Starting point is 01:15:12 my deep brother, Novak Djokovic, I've been his head of nutrition for the last four years. But beyond that, we've been best friends. We've gone through so much together, emotional techniques and really looking at history and how did we come together in this whole thing? This was before all of this stuff. And it's been a tough past couple of weeks. I've been on the front lines with him during this whole Australian Open process. And they were working on getting him an exemption

Starting point is 01:15:41 so he can play. And I just want to put this out there. This man is sitting at the precipice of being the greatest of all time in a sport, in an individual sport. He has 20 Grand Slam wins. He's tied Nadal and Federer. And he dominated the Australian Open. He has nine Australian Opens. That's his court.

Starting point is 01:16:03 And this was going to be, you know, nothing's guaranteed, but this was him getting to 21. And to think that he was denied the ability to play because of his belief systems on how to handle his own individual health is real tough. And I want people to have a little bit of awareness on what he's going through and the experience that he's having.

Starting point is 01:16:26 And it's just, it's almost like a movie. You couldn't even script it any crazier than that. I'm not going to say better because it's not good, but it's, it's, it's, it's, this is bigger than tennis. And this is, this is history that's being written right now. We'll never forget about this for hundreds, thousands of years, this moment. And it's powerful to be involved in it in some capacity and be someone to be on his shoulder. I mean, we were communicating the whole time while they put him in this like Guantanamo Bay style camp over there. It's incredible. They put him in the, almost locked him up and treated him like

Starting point is 01:16:59 he was some kind of drug Lord. And it's just, it's unbelievable. And I'm just, we're sending him a bunch of love right now. And hopefully France wakes up and lets him play in the French Open. So he has another crack at this and Wimbledon and again, New York, US Open. So. Yeah. And I just want to address, you know, I know there's some people out there that are thinking right now, big fucking deal. He's playing tennis. I'm going to lose my job if I don't get the jab. This X, Y, and Z is going to happen if I don't do this. I can't see my parents again if I don't do this, right?

Starting point is 01:17:32 Everyone has been affected. The reason why I find this to be such a massive story is that sports often have, there often can be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Because as a whole, we're drawn to it. I'm not a huge fan of tennis. I watch it here and there. I've seen him play on TV. But there is magnitude with that story.

Starting point is 01:17:52 And that magnitude can speak to the masses. That magnitude can speak. Like, why is this guy? Right? Like, fuck Kyle Kingsbury. Who's that guy? The ex-fighter that was four and five in the UFC. Big fucking deal, right?

Starting point is 01:18:08 That is a big deal. But one of the greatest of all time in any particular sport speaks out and says no i don't want to do this right like we know all the players in the nba are fucking silenced yeah all of them even if they make their choice they're still told like shut the fuck up absolutely and and and some of them according to dr rashid batar have even had death threats, right? Like they won't admit it publicly, but I believe it. I believe it with the state that we're in. So I've been watching this closely. I love that you're in this fucking corner.

Starting point is 01:18:36 I love it that you're right there with him. I love it that he has your shoulders to rest upon and that you guys can fucking handle anything together. Well, he's on my shoulders on your shoulder too, because that's the whole thing. We're connected in that spirit. I feel more confident every day to be able to do what I do because knowing I know that you exist,

Starting point is 01:18:56 I've told you this before, not to get mushy with you, but that's real. And that's what brotherhood and sisterhood and family is all about. Yeah, brother. Absolutely. And that's, that's, thank you brother sisterhood and family is all about. Yeah, brother. Absolutely. And that's, thank you, brother. That's where the sauce lies.

Starting point is 01:19:10 Yeah. Right? Like I think about that. It was momentum carried me through the dark night of the soul because I could see, I had memories of my family. I had memories of being a father. I had memories of all those things. And it was like, as hard as this gets,

Starting point is 01:19:23 I can't fucking push quit. Not now, right? And that momentum carried me through. But when we think about the things that we want to grab, it doesn't necessarily need to be a daily practice on the ocean. If you're out of access, fuck yeah. Don't be the guy that lives 15 minutes from Santa Monica and never goes there. That's right. If you're fucking by the beach, utilize it, right? That's right. We're by a ton of water here. I go to Barton Springs with Bear every day of the summer and we go in the spring and the fall and sometimes in the winter

Starting point is 01:19:49 we're in nature, wherever we're at that's low hanging fruit get there, do that but the desire that you and I have for high level conversations with like minded people that are consistently growing, consistently learning, where I can tell you anything and you're going to have advice and you're going to have

Starting point is 01:20:08 similar stories of shit that you had gone through and vice versa. That's an authentic desire from humans to connect face-to-face, right? Charles Eisenstein said it. You can't get it through Zoom. It's nice to be able to FaceTime mom. It's better than a phone call, but it's not the same as hugging mom. That's right. It's not the same as us sharing time together, whether in California or here. And that's the thing we must continue to fight for because there's some places where it didn't go back, like Texas and Florida. There's some places still where it was discouraged to celebrate the holidays. It was discouraged to get together for fucking five or eight people to hang around at your dinner table.

Starting point is 01:20:50 While all these clowns, the make and the laws are the ones having massive parties on their birthday. The absurdity can go no longer, right? Can go no further. And we can't take those things lightly. Yeah. Yeah, the cosmic connection of human interaction is the greatest alchemy of all time

Starting point is 01:21:06 and it's the most empowering. We know that from time in memoriam. That's everything. And so if you dismantle that, I mean, putting a mask on is another thing, but like taking human connection away where you and I can see each other and feel each other and pheromones are exchanging

Starting point is 01:21:23 and nuances are exchanging and the sound decibels are accurate. This is what, like I'm charged up, dude. I'm ready to go fuck the day up. I'm ready to go have the best day ever. I'm ready to start working on some more word magic, you know, and my linguistics and all these things. These are, this is how the mitochondria charges up. This is the battery of life. Just like standing in the sun on the rise and grounding to the earth, human connection, human in touch, all of those things are just as critical.

Starting point is 01:21:50 And that's what true brotherhood and true sisterhood is all about. It's about not having yes men all around you. It's about people looking you in the eye and telling you how it is and really wanting to see the best in you. And that's what it's all about. Fuck yeah, brother.

Starting point is 01:22:04 Where can people find you? You know where you can find me. At Sherveen333. Sherveen, C-H-E-R-V-I-N-333. And I got my own private telegram room. And also, I'll just throw this in here. Because of all the social media bullshit and all the banning and all that stuff,

Starting point is 01:22:23 Symbiotica is creating its own media concept. Our app will be coming out pretty soon and it's going to be a home base for everyone to just get together and share information and story and ideas and concepts outside of just Symbiotica stuff, just like life. And I'm excited for that. Our own ecosystem. Fuck yeah, brother. I'm pumped for that. Our own ecosystems. Fuck yeah, brother. I'm pumped for that as well. That's going to be great. Hey, I love you guys.

Starting point is 01:22:49 Thank you for being here. Remember, your true self is immaterial. Your conscious is ethereal. It pre-exists your body and transcends the material. Fuck yeah, brother. Yeah. you

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